game-questions-returns

[maiden lantern]

Actually, i can still do it with damage reduction applied right?

[zenith garden]

ye the options dont turn off access to anything

[maiden lantern]

Well that's good at least, thanks🫃

[mild sun]

are there any zoom scale settings that dont make the pixel art blurry besides 1x/2x on 1080p?

[tender gazelle]

beware that you still need to die to robomando so dont set it too low

[primal valve]

No since zoom amounts are based on resolution, whole integer(sp?) values are only ones with pixels scaling perfectly

[cobalt wind]

is there a way to check my progress towards challenges like this or do I just have to thug it out lmao

[slender creek]

You just do it

i did it in like 1 run i think

[primal valve]

No way to check but if you keep using the abilities you usually get them in 5 runs max

[cobalt wind]

Gotcha

[red seal]

Is it true that the equipment barrel spawns in judgement? If so, does it spawn right at the beginning? The break room right before the first stage?

[primal valve]

If you mean the "Rift Chest" that is used to ||smuggle battery for robomando||, answer is yes.

[red seal]

And it doesnt disappear as long as i restart my run everytime i die?

[primal valve]

As long as you don't loot it

Alternative is to get equipment in box, then exit game, locate your save (steam/userdata/accountid#/1337520/remote) and make it read only. now you can after each attempt restart game to make it appear again since rift chest is in save file, then after you win, Go to your save and remove the read only tag from it before closing your game to keep the progress.

[twin glacier]

I just beat judgement in 16:24 but i didnt get a gold rank, what’d i do wrong?

[primal valve]

Judgement gold is clear on every non-secret character, gold time will be removed from trials menu once update comes to switch

[twin glacier]

Oh alright, ive done it with every character except artificer, even robo

[red seal]

So i can just get infinite items as robomando with a captains brooch on stage 1? Well, i know what i'll be doing for 5 hours on saturday

[primal valve]

Good luck, note that there is currently no reward for doing judgement on robomando

[red seal]

Thank you! And yes i'm aware, but it'll be funny and that's enough for me

[old spoke]

i have seen multiple youtubers have their ability cooldowns displayed on top of their characther how do i turn that option on or is it a mod

[frigid quail]

Accessibility features, you can find it in settings

[red seal]

Controls > accesibility

[old spoke]

thanks

[empty spindle]

Same with health bar over head

[red seal]

Np

[vague quiver]

how to get >:c

shiny

[frigid quail]

in ||the cargo bay above|| there ||is a hidden rope you can use to climb down and get it||

[vague quiver]

ah thanks

[frigid quail]

its ||at the top of the tower in the cargo bay above||

[vague quiver]

i was looking around but didn't find anything

thankyou!

[frigid quail]

no problem, hope you get something good

[vague quiver]

i'm way too op atm, don't worry

doing a loop with artifact of command

to unlock items/the huntress primary attack mostly

[ornate viper]

what are these 6 dots? im about 2 hours into the game and just have no clue

[vague quiver]

it's the armor item you have

[ornate viper]

the one that reflects all damage?

[ornate viper]

right yeah thank you!

[vague quiver]

[dim dust]

im trying to find the artifact of command but i cant, im in give cluster, i checked the top right of the map, but theres nothing

[jovial field]

it only shows up on stage variants 1 and 2

[dim dust]

the wiki says it shows up on all 3

[jovial field]

❓

oh. it's inconsistent. weird

you might be on 4 5 or 6 then

unless you've disabled modern stages

[dim dust]

no no, i enabled modern stages

im gonna restart my run and try again

[old snow]

does monsoon increase spawn rates or does it only increase difficulty scaling speed

[bright burrow]

What are the best White rarity healing items? For Commando, but any class, really.

Meat chunks, green fungus, white egg, green vial , monster tooth, Medkit, Mu Construct.

What should I get only once, what should I stack, what should I ignore?

[zenith garden]

egg is good all around, bungus stacks well if you have the movement to get away, teeth stack pretty well, mu stacking can get pretty nice with higher amounts. the others are usually outclassed imo

oh and banner is very good with both single and multiple

[bright burrow]

I see. Do you think we'll be getting a balance patch to buff the Commando? He sucks

I've beaten the game with Huntress, Acrid, Drifter, and Ranger. Huntress definitely the easiest

[frigid quail]

Commando is awesome, i dont see a buff coming for him bc he is really stong late game bc of his ease to proc items

[bright burrow]

I mean that's true I guess. Maybe it's my fault because I only play solo rn, and most of my deaths are early game

[primal valve]

Make sure you are on wiki.gg wiki since it is one being maintained by the community since fandom is filled with intrusive ads and devs made one for us

[zenith garden]

i fixed it today

[primal valve]

Well I reported them lemme check

[zenith garden]

the shrine for it shows on 1,2,3

just looking at the maps

[primal valve]

#ror-wiki-discussion message

Basically did rundown on all the artifact variants 30th of december, haven't made wiki account and don't intend to, so just reporting stuff

[zenith garden]

a ton of the stage pages need a clean up tbh

[jovial field]

aye, I am. death to fandom.com

[primal valve]

Wasn't aware they weren't updated for week, my bad

[jovial field]

all good

[primal valve]

but yeah all old artifacts show on 123 variants which is nice

Then umm, Prestige is Provi trials, dissonance is split in 4 on stage 3 and 4 on variants 4 5 6, tempus on IIRC all variants of stage 5 as long as you are fast enough and Cognation is on single stage 1 variant which can be reseted for so for most part there is little but not too much RNG on getting the artifacts

[old snow]

do overloading elites do contact damage

[tender gazelle]

no

[vague quiver]

Yeah what does the shock thingie even do, is it just aoe damage? Or like stun too

[tender gazelle]

it goes like bzzt bzzt ZAP

and when it goes zap you take damage if youre near it

[empty spindle]

The "3 of the same drone" recycler, does it just give better items, or multiple items? I've never actually managed to have 3 of same when finding one of them

[elder patrol]

It merges 3 drones into a better one

[tender gazelle]

it combines your drones into a stronger one

[empty spindle]

Ahhhh right yeah I think I have seen that actually in one of the trials?

[tender gazelle]

yeah you can see all the upgraded drones in scavenger hunt

[vague quiver]

And if I have the ukulele or the tesla coil it's just bonus aoe damage right?

[empty spindle]

The data log for each item shows up after you acquire them for the first time, which might be useful to read through for newer players though they don't always have the most accurate and useful info. But yeah ukelele is a chance on hit to do a chain lightning proc and tesla coil turns on every few seconds for a few seconds and does AoE lightning around you

[vague quiver]

Thanks!

[proud peak]

Yeah the coil does its thing automatically while the ukulele does it when you hit something

[empty spindle]

Ukelele bonus damage will also scale by how fast you attack but tesla won't, unless I'm hugely mistaken

[vague quiver]

I was curious cuz often lightning/shocking is like stuns, but there's a separate stun thing so

[empty spindle]

I don't think attack speed affects passive effects like that at least

[vague quiver]

It wouldn't make too much sense

[empty spindle]

Enemies can be stunned by taking enough damage in a hit, too

[vague quiver]

[empty spindle]

You'll notice this by sometimes enemies will just run at you continuously as you attack, but as you get stronger than "the curve" those same enemies are no issue

[vague quiver]

Yeah they have a yellow swirly yin yangy symbol above them

[empty spindle]

Certain characters also have slower, crunchier attacks right off the bat so you'll notice they can deal with groups of smaller enemies a lot easier

[primal valve]

Technically ukulele "scales with attack speed" but is is mainly just having more rolls to proc it with the increased attack speed.

[empty spindle]

Yeah I should have said DPS from the item, not the "bonus damage" from it. I meant that any damage from the item is bonus on top of what your attack is actually doing but the wording I used could confuse someone 😹

[narrow cave]

what does that mean

also first kinda sucsessfull loop

didnt get to level 20 tho

[north iron]

The planet death 2.0 it looks like

[empty spindle]

Had it happen to me before too

Could be if you die to an effect that an enemy that's no longer alive left? Idek

[narrow cave]

Maybe

[red seal]

I think that's a bug with elite enemies

Or just bligtheds

If its only blighteds then it might be intentional, you know they are pitch black, mysterious and all that

[zenith garden]

It’s usually a projectile from a dead enemy as it’s no longer associated with it (some projectiles despawn like robospider) so it’ll probably be a missile

[vague quiver]

does mercenarys dash give iframes?

[frigid quail]

yes

[vague quiver]

ooh nice

[bright burrow]

nah, I've played a lot more games as Commando, and I'm just more convinced he sucks. He might be better late game, but if you struggle to get there, what's that worth?

are we expecting a balance patch in the coming weeks?

[old snow]

do turrets inherit infusion stacks

[bright burrow]

i'm experimenting with healing items. what do i get first, one egg? then stack monster teeth or fungus?

[frigid quail]

I would grab a egg and a fungus and then stack teeth, mu construct is pretty good and warbanner is great bc its 3 in one

[bright burrow]

i'm always kiting and i don't see extended value in warbanner until i can stand my ground

[frigid quail]

Are you playing with command? Warbanner stacks increase its range giving you more room to maneuver and still receive the buff

You can also hop out of the banner and for 2-3 seconds after still have the buff

[frigid quail]

I dont think so. I think you're one the first person i have heard to say that comando is weak

[waxen agate]

My RoR2 dont open, the game load for a fill seconds and dont open any one cant help?

[old snow]

wrong channel

[lime abyss]

commando felt weak to me compared to ror2 commando but he just plays quite a bit differently

feels different at least, kiting is a noticeably larger part of your combat

[frigid quail]

Kiting is a larger part of the game, things dont just miss bc the AI has a skill issue

[old snow]

yeah ror1/returns is heavier on kiting than ror2 is

[bright burrow]

okay i will continue to try to make him work

[frigid quail]

Dont force yourself if you dont enjoy it, he may just not be your style in this game and so he forces you to play a way you dont want to

[bright burrow]

~~https://i.imgur.com/HaUEzSB.png~~
I can't do it, man. He just sucks

I actually had to double check that I didn't accidentally turn on Monsoon. His damage just falls off hard at the 15 min mark

Huntress and Sniper would SHRED that Magma Worm that I plink-plink-plinked at its massive health bar with 'Mando

[frigid quail]

Get a role from #roles to send images

[tender gazelle]

maybe unlock some alternate skills you might prefer them

his shotgun is pretty good fot that specific encounter (and also in general)

[zenith garden]

and youve gone very heavy into healing items which doesnt help against the scaling

dont need to heal if you dont get hit (movement and utility items) or they are too dead to hit you (damage items)

[vague quiver]

Any advice for melee characters?

I feel like I'm doing well and then I get bursted down in an instant

[maiden lantern]

Yeah that's mainly the hardest part about them, imo the way to go is to either try to go for as many defensive/healing items as you can, or to time the skills that have i-frames if your character has any (i.e. miner)

I also recommend that you don't get too greedy and stay in fight for longer than you should, if you feel like the situation is getting too rough just maybe run away until the enemies split up or you manage to heal a bit

[frigid quail]

Know your timing, most melee charectors your going to want to hit and run (exception of HAN-D) so know when to go in, (example: go in ehen the vagrant has already shot so its one less thing to dodge mid fight)

[mild sun]

anyone know if the health bars are moddable sprites or hard coded? i can see some of the health bar backgrounds, but cant seem to find the bar itself

[bright burrow]

What are good Common damage items? I have bloody knife, but the selection is kinda sparse

[zenith garden]

The white items don’t have much but sticky bombs, toxin and backup mags are the stand out ones for pure damage

[proud peak]

Mortars are nice too

[zenith garden]

Yea I don’t mind them either but they can be a bit hit or miss sometimes

[primal valve]

Stickies, Toxin, Glass makers Lenses (crit overall) and Mocha/Syringes (Attack speed, mocha is half of syringe and Goat hoof so move+attack speed) and Barbed wire if stacked enough

[narrow cave]

is combining drones actually benificial?

[proud peak]

Very

The one you get is usually better than the 3 used and is also easier to keep alive

[narrow cave]

k

[pearl jolt]

does the pilot tech still work

[proud peak]

The wavedash will most likely not get patched

Ever

[elder patrol]

Hopoo said if we find smth cool, we get to keep it

Finder keepers : P

[proud peak]

@hotpoo I find the cremators as they are rn cool keep em 😼

But fr tho this is good dev and community communication and cooperation

[tender gazelle]

they did know about it before the game even released

same for most of the other funny tech i think

[quaint citrus]

Hey everyone. So I am thinking about getting Risk of Rain but am unsure which game I should start with. Either returns or 2.

I do know that Returns is 2D and 2 is 3D. Which game should I start with playing?

[frigid quail]

They are both good, if you have no care for story get the dimensions you prefer to play, if you want to go in order of the story returns comes first (you can play risk of rain 2 and understand the story enough though bc it explains a bit)

[quaint citrus]

Alright thanks!

[tender gazelle]

yeah it depends on whether you prefer a 2d sidescroller platformer game or a 3d third person shooter

they both have similar gameplay loops, its just mainly the dimension difference

[quaint citrus]

Is it reccomended to play with controller or keyboard?

[primal valve]

Whatever you find most comfortable, I personally prefer controller

[mild sun]

How do you deal with elite crabs and golems with melee characters

[primal valve]

Spacing /baiting their attacks and attacking between them

[mild sun]

Most of my runs with miner ended because they stomped me down and won't stun

[mild sun]

Bet bet

But like what if you're in a group of them mid boss fight and I gotta get my heat with miner back up

Do I just pick off the smaller enemies and engage?

[primal valve]

It is pretty survivor dependant, HAN-D and Drifter just knockback everything

It is extremely situational but for miner specifically you have deceptively long range on primary to space against enemies

[mild sun]

Gotu

Ty

[primal valve]

Also while desired you don't always need to be scorching so poking with special/utility/Secondary and going out is viable strategy

[vague quiver]

how does the hitlist mark work? cuz it disappears

is it after a while, when i take damage, or what

[primal valve]

It has semi random duration (and very specifically evolved lemurians landing/starting to fly also removes it) between 2 and 6 seconds I'd estimate but haven't measured exactly

[vague quiver]

aight thank you!

[primal valve]

So it is based on time

[vague quiver]

wow the evolved lemurians landing thing actually happened hehe

[frigid quail]

what are the sources of burn, just miner and arti right?

[unkempt arrow]

does hit list add base damage or flat damage?

[cosmic prairie]

base

[primal valve]

Base damage so on most survivors at level 16 (roughly level you get going to providense asap) ~30% damage increase when at full stacks

[brisk spade]

Someone already asked about hard caps and didn't get an answer, but does anyone know how soldier syringe stacks or caps out in RoRR?

For example it feels like it's not doing anything after 30 on hunter, but I'm not sure, maybe the effect is diminishing.

[bright burrow]

I made him work. Thanks for all your advice, everyone

[vivid vault]

for sniper, do i actually have to hit an enemy with anything while doing the perfect reload challenge or can i just sit somewhere after doing the teleporter and shoot at nothing until i get it

[frigid quail]

No need to hit anything just focus on the reloads

[vivid vault]

ah, my inablity to get it while doing that is just a skill issue then. thanks!

skil

[frigid quail]

Very much skill

[vague quiver]

how to get

what even

what skills can push without really killing?

[lime abyss]

han-d primary or hammer

drifter

[vague quiver]

hm hm i'll try out handy boy

never really played him tbh

past stage 1

[ripe brook]

Is there more than one hidden character?

[frigid quail]

if you count that HAN-D and Acrid and Miner are meant to be hidden then yes. if not no

[ripe brook]

Oh ok

[viral siren]

Enforcer default primary is good too

Don’t want to do toooo much damage, cause if not you’ll kill them before you yeet them into the chasms, but yeh

It’s a grind but iirc you don’t have to do all 20 at once, the game keeps count

[vague quiver]

noice

[viral siren]

Default secondary I’m DUMB

[vague quiver]

wait oh yeah

[viral siren]

Huh. Alt secondary might work too, but you might also careen yourself down the edge too so lol good luck

[frigid quail]

casting "protect and serve" cancels the dash so you can push them near the edge and then "protect and serve" to knock them off while also keeping yourself on ground

speaking of "protect and serve"'s knock back will also help

[viral siren]

Oh shit I forgot protect and serve shoves things back too. Hell yeah.
I did this achievement in RoR1 and it shows, haha

[turbid robin]

Did they add an ability to change zoom level outside of menus?

[frigid quail]

nope

[narrow cave]

Enforcer stun into default secondary

I think would work

[primal valve]

Knocking Whorls in Sunken Stage down into pits, doesn't have to be single run, CHEF Secondary, Sniper Alt Primary, Drifter Primary, HAN-D Primary, Enforcer Utility and Secondaries are the main ones that deal high knockback

[turbid robin]

Darn
That's the only thing keeping me from coming back

[narrow cave]

Anyone have a list of all ror2 and rorr artifacts with their descriptions?

[mild sun]

just google risk of rain 2 wiki, and this is RORR sub
https://riskofrainreturns.wiki.gg/wiki/Artifacts
https://riskofrain2.fandom.com/wiki/Artifacts

[narrow cave]

Yea i know i could do that, i just wanted it sorted together but its fine. Thanks anyway

[sour valve]

any word on mod support?

[jovial field]

no

they're working on it. that's all we really know

[tame swan]

So I’ve experienced a glitch, several times in fact. Basically Drifter uses their unpack ability and then just doesn’t stop… any idea how to get it to stop so it doesn’t kill my runs?

[karmic acorn]

do unlock the secret character could i loop till i get the level preset for unlocking it? or would i have to just get it the first loop?

saying after i get the steps to unlock it and im on the stage of finding it

[zenith garden]

the latest patch should fix that

[tame swan]

Ah, I forgot to mention I’m on switch version so I don’t have that patch yet I guess

[zenith garden]

the barrel spawns on every variant (some people haev said except one but they mightve missed it) and then the child is on every variant as well so as long as all steps are correct you should be good

[zenith garden]

yea then youd have to wait, only thing to avoid it would be keeping your atk speed low enough

[karmic acorn]

well i have looped three times before and gotten the right stage for unlocking the character with the active needed but i couldnt find the character in the spot it would spawn in

[zenith garden]

did you do the teleporter timing part?

[karmic acorn]

yes

[zenith garden]

and not on drizzle?

[karmic acorn]

yup

that is unless you have to get the active item on a harder difficulty

but other than that i followed it step by step

[zenith garden]

yea yea, you put the battery in the box in drizzle and then the child spawns in anything except drizzle

[karmic acorn]

yeah so i did do it right

all i did was leave on the designated time and loop

[zenith garden]

you definitely shoiuldnt be looping with the 22 min on stage 4

[karmic acorn]

no i mean i left stage three at 22 to 23 minutes as told

then because i havent gotten the right map for the hive i loop

[zenith garden]

he wont spawn on the later loops due to that time requirement

[primal valve]

He will appear on all variants of stage 4 if time requirement is met, he can be bit hidden on some variants

[karmic acorn]

really?

i though it had to be one specific one

i thought it had to be on variant 2

[primal valve]

Problem with getting footage of all the robo spawns is having to wait for tw timer and rolling each of the variants.

[zenith garden]

does he spawn again after being unlocked?

[karmic acorn]

what timer you mean the ingame timer?

[primal valve]

I'll check 6 minutes into random run so same to check it

The ingame run timer of being 22:00-22:59 when entering stage 4

[karmic acorn]

ah that

and can he spawn on any stage 4 level?

[zenith garden]

magma and hive yea

[karmic acorn]

ok so now all i need to do is just look harder and try my hardest to find him then

[zenith garden]

ive seen him in hive 4 and unlocked him on magma 5

[karmic acorn]

so i guess just look on every segmment you can get to then? so then i should use captain for mobility then.

and just hold down the down button while walking around to find secrets then

[primal valve]

yes

Didn't bother to get battery to him.

[zenith garden]

good to know

[upper magnet]

How do i get to this chest, im at a loss

[cursive birch]

I just can't decide man

[elder patrol]

Pick the closest

[primal valve]

Late, but on right of the xhest there is hidden passage hinted with textures in wall

[upper magnet]

Really didnt see any of that

But thanks

[karmic acorn]

does anyone have an image that exists for the artificer shard? or do i just have to brute force the path by trial and error?

[tender gazelle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1173325091145269378/1190460401155055727/SPOILER_2023-12-30_03-01-57.mp4?ex=65ab1c25&is=6598a725&hm=4c85c45334bbe4c08acdb237c68ff3c0e5dbda582000f920d8785381df4cbfe2& here's a video doing it as loader using no mobility items (got it from patemaani)

[karmic acorn]

thanks

[supple hound]

Is there a item that gives u extra charges of eviscerate for Merc?

[elder patrol]

No

[prime obsidian]

Indeed my friend

[proud peak]

Well that doesnt exist in rorr

[prime obsidian]

Oh dam

Right

😂

I'll return to RoR2 chat see yall

[umbral mural]

Can you use this artefact:

When attempting this unlock:

?

[elder patrol]

Yes, but kinda redundant tbh

It just gives you random equipment, and if you use it, it violates the requirements

I recommend Glass for increased damage, and Command so you won't pick up any items on accident

[umbral mural]

OMG

Thank you so much for the command

recommendation

[supple hound]

+_+

[zenith garden]

the closest would be amethyst for 8 sec cooldown on it

[strange bluff]

im stuck under the map, how do i continue without ending the run?

[zenith garden]

can you move at all?

[strange bluff]

idk for certain cuz i cant see my player model, but it seems no

[zenith garden]

in that case theres probably not much you can do

[sand island]

Anyone know of there's been news on a switch patch any time soon?

[sturdy widget]

is it known if there's any other secret characters besides ||robomando||

[strange bluff]

no, only he is a secret character

[primal valve]

Pictures for both variants hidden paths to golden chest on Contact Light.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1173325091145269378/1188627631009173525/SPOILER_image.png?ex=65adabbe&is=659b36be&hm=34a6c4542020719c157cdc11207a471f7c7763ef1b28e6f6a6d0cf58a0863cc8&

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1173325091145269378/1188627441539878983/SPOILER_image.png?ex=65adab91&is=659b3691&hm=8b947b50c786812c69c4edc3c516674e4a6c705b6f635daae2cb0d4ddd6e72dc&

[narrow cave]

With 2 jetpacks or a couple hopoo feathers you could also go into the exit on the second one

[upper magnet]

ah

[zenith garden]

someone mentioned its just updated to 1.0.4 but not sure

[tender gazelle]

ror twitter also mentioned that so its probably true

[sand island]

HOLY MOLY IT DID IN FACT UPDATE

[tender gazelle]

happy aiming

[sand island]

I had checked a few days ago and there was nothing, this is very epic

time to get back into the game and sink another 100 hours into it

[vague quiver]

wait so what are the two options i have here?

[tender gazelle]

you can skip to sunken tomb

[vague quiver]

or do what

[proud peak]

Do it like normal

[vague quiver]

cuz i went in the left teleporter and im also in sunken tomb

sorry, left

[proud peak]

Going straight to sunken tombs skips ahead but will also make the rest of the rooms harder

I think

[tender gazelle]

you can use the right teleporter from the beginning

so its a direct skip

left is just natural progression

[vague quiver]

hm there was a barrier blocking the entrance for me

[tender gazelle]

just for the first run

[vague quiver]

ah oki thanks

[gray lodge]

Does anyone know how to fix issues with muliplayer in risk of rain ruturns? I keep trying to play with my brother but it always disconnects in the middle of a game. I tried turning off my vpn and still disconnects

[narrow cave]

Local or online?

[gray lodge]

Online

[narrow cave]

Idk, but it sounds like it is not a glitch in the game but probably a connection issue

[gray lodge]

Is there a way to play locally or do I just have to play on the same network as him?

[floral skiff]

dunno

[narrow cave]

In rorr the local is same computer

And online is different computers

[mild sun]

there is no lan support, you have to use the online portion

[pulsar mason]

Are there currently any plans to nerf overloading enemies?

[mild sun]

https://discord.com/channels/417739215355510784/1172636231616712754

[supple hound]

[cursive notch]

hey does anyone know all the prism locations?

[desert quartz]

cant figure out how to unlock the one missing here

[elder patrol]

Complete all trials to get that

[desert quartz]

I see-

thanks!

[umbral mural]

https://youtu.be/xex7Bg79hWU?feature=shared

[cursive notch]

thanks

[red seal]

Is hive cluster variant 3 part of the new stages? I've been trying to get it's log without the new stage variants setting and i've gotten variant 1 and 2 like 6 times in a row

[zenith garden]

1,2,3 for all the stages are part of the old variants so just unlucky

[red seal]

Damn

[red seal]

Are you really sure tho? I got 1 and 2 like 10 times in a row, i cant be this unlucky. Maybe there was only 2 variants in the original ror??

[shell frigate]

yes, 1,2,and 3 are all og

[viral siren]

If you got new stages turned off it should help. But also yeah the chances are pretty random which kinda sucks. I wish there was a way to choose or shift them like you can with the dreams in ror2

[exotic nacelle]

hey i gotmyself stuck in a wall during a really good looping achievement run, is there any way to save this?

[quick edge]

try and escPE THrough a corner

oops

try to use your movement ability into a corner

at full speed

[exotic nacelle]

kinda hard to do as huntress

[worthy matrix]

is it just me or is magma wurm really hard to dodge? also fyi I'm new to the game and was wondering if there were any tips to help me not die to the wurm

[sand timber]

just don't stand in the same area

if you keep moving it can't hit you

[worthy matrix]

I do move and that kills me every time😭

especially with melee characters. idk how to fight that thing

[sand timber]

it only moves to your last location

it's easier if you hit it when it comes up and keep holding one direction until it goes away

also I think only the head has a hitbox

[worthy matrix]

hmmm ok

[sand timber]

so you can attack the rest of it pretty safely

also if you're playing melee merc evicerate destroys this boss

[worthy matrix]

gotta unlock him. current unlock goal is chef. it's a little difficult

[mint gale]

Hey is this a bug or normal for Robomando to not unlock a providence skin?

I know robomando has a skin for providence judgement but is that because its not implemented or the fact that its not a achievement?

[zenith garden]

he has a skin in the files but its not unlockable (or force loadable)

[zenith garden]

the only hitbox it has is the moment it enters and exits the ground (other than the fire) so it cant actually touch you on ropes or mid air

[worthy matrix]

so jump when it's about to emerge and submerge?

just fought it again and it's still whooping my ass

[maiden lantern]

Yeah that's usually the strat

[narrow cave]

Do you have artfact of command?

[candid berry]

Where is the arti prism?

[empty spindle]

Chef took me so long to unlock aha

It didn't help that I kept forgetting which items were needed

[primal valve]

Dried lake Variant 3 IIRC, video of me scouting and getting it on loader without items
#game-questions-returns message

[candid berry]

Thank you

[worthy matrix]

I don't. just got the game yesterday and don't have any artifacts

[narrow cave]

Its completely rng and hard to get chef without command

[worthy matrix]

ok

what does it do

[empty spindle]

Instead of items being random, you select when you pick one up

You can also just keep playing till you get the items in one run

[mild sun]

@worthy matrix om the 4th stage called hive swarm, go to the far top right and there should be ropes appearing and disappearing

Idk if it's a variant specific thing or not but the artifact of command will be there

Btw go to the match settings and turn off nee variants

[zenith garden]

It’s on variant 1, 2, 3 so all the old stages

[scenic vortex]

can you open keycard doors in the UES contact light with the gold key item?

[charred forum]

nio

[scenic vortex]

no?

[charred forum]

no*
or what do you mean by gold key

the skeleton key that opens all chests on screen?

[scenic vortex]

no the explorers key

[charred forum]

oh yea this one. yep, doesn't work

[scenic vortex]

ok thank you

last question: do you know what the nano chest does, when you teleport it up to the bridge?

[charred forum]

it spawns a random equipment item on use. the uses are unlimited but it has cooldown

[scenic vortex]

alright thanks again

wait what's the cooldown about

like a cooldown on teleporting the chest?

[charred forum]

cooldown on summoning new equipments

it teleports to the final boss fight arena when you first activate it in the storage room of course

[scenic vortex]

thanks

i dont really know much lol

[lofty garnet]

is one of acrids primaries better than the other?

[umbral mural]

I think alt primary is supposed to be better but unsure.

(I don't have it unlocked myself)

[lofty garnet]

it sounds better on paper but im still new to this game and its meta

still trying to see whats different from 2

[arctic shoal]

has coop received any rebalances yet

[jovial field]

no

[tender gazelle]

a big difference from 2 is that for a lot of the alts there isn't really a meta

most of them are equal in power or are very different that they have different uses/niches

[timid badger]

There are exceptions of course

[worthy matrix]

I have officially acquired artifact of command

[noble raptor]

how does stacking the ancient scepter work?

[tender gazelle]

reduces special cooldown

[noble raptor]

ah ok

[wide breach]

is attack speed useful on acrid?

[zenith garden]

First one does the upgrade and then any other later ones are cooldown reduction

[tender gazelle]

yea it makes you give enemies more stacks of poison with your m1 which is a really good dot

[wide breach]

Is it? I consider Acrid's m1 to be quite a situational part of their kit since it has terrible range and it doesn't have base abilties to facetank with.

I was wondering if att speed has effect on any of his tick rates

[tender gazelle]

his m1 is his primary source of damage since his utility has quite a long cooldown

you should be constantly be going back and forth through enemies while jumping and using it

it deals a lot of damage

its good to note that most enemy attack only hit you if you're on the ground despite certain visuals which is why you should be jumping

but no aside from increasing the damage on his primary, attack speed only makes his other attack animations faster

[wide breach]

If you're only attacking on jumps I don't feel att speed is that beneficial though

[tender gazelle]

just hold the attack and jump button

i didnt mean only use it on jumps

i mean if you need to get out quickly you can stop attacking but for dealing damage you can just hold it

[wide breach]

I feel the attack will root you once you touch the ground but I'm take your word for it since I'm away from the game

I'll just avoid attack speed on Acrid in the meantime since I don't enjoy it as much as other melee in the game.

[urban olive]

I'm ootl, is modding a thing yet?

[arctic umbra]

Nope

[urban olive]

aw

I really want an item sharing mod

[empty spindle]

You have to feel it out with what your current items and power level are but you can regularly stagger lock enemies or attack from one side and then quickly jump to the other in the case of enemies that attack in one direction. Kinda gets harder with volatile or overloading elites messing you up but yeah

[scarlet iron]

if im switching save files, does the new one need to match the name

[heavy night]

#ror2-modding message

[topaz kettle]

ive been sitting here for at least 5 minutes white geeting hit and shooting why havent i gotten that achievement

[proud peak]

I mean you dont have to shoot you just need an enemy aggrod on you while you have shield for 5 minutes straight

No clue why you didnt get it though

Maybe the elevation did that but I managed to get it by just sitting in a corner with a wisp firing at me for 5 minutes

[topaz kettle]

ill just go down a lv

[primal valve]

Teleporter cannot be completed

[proud peak]

But it has been completed

Oh wait what you cant finish the tp event for that?

[topaz kettle]

i see

thats annoying

[sturdy widget]

is there a way o make the mouse cursor more visible

[raw heath]

Is this game couch co op?

[sturdy widget]

yeah, theres a mode for it

[raw heath]

How many players at a time?

[sturdy widget]

4

[raw heath]

O cool thx

[sand timber]

what's up with lobbies that show up on the list that won't let you connect and just kinda stay there

they're not locked

[gray lodge]

Does anyone disconnect in multiplayer? We'll be playing for 10 minutes then he'll disconnect from me. When I join him I get disconnected

[mental scaffold]

Does you game freeze before you disconnect?

Also do you guys have good internet

[gray lodge]

The game will not freeze in terms of frame drop but latency. The enemies will stop moving but I can still move the character until I get disconnected

We have decent internet. It never used to be a problem in the past just recently

[mental scaffold]

Did you experience this after the recent update

I had a similar problem with my brother, we tried both running the game as administrator and it reduced the problem, but it didn't stop it until the next patch

[desert quartz]

are you not able to select alternate skills on judgement trials?

[mental scaffold]

Yea

[gray lodge]

I honestly don't know when the last update date was but it could have been after an update. I'll give running the game as administrator a shot thanks!

[mental scaffold]

Np

[jagged herald]

how to unlock acrid?

[red seal]

You need to find a shipping container at the top right side of sunken tomb. The container doesn't spawn on every map variant tho, disabling new map variants will help. Once you open the container, acrid will spawn and you'll have to kill him to unlock the character

[jagged herald]

ok anything i should look out for when fighting him?

[red seal]

He can stun you, that can be a pain. Other than that, i think no.

[inner spade]

out of curiosity, are you doing monsoon difficulty?

[primal valve]

More specifically, Acrid spawns on every "old" variant (1,2,3) so disabling new stages guarantees acrid on Sunken Temple (So 3/6 on stage 3 with new stages disabled, 3/12 with new stages enabled).

[glossy escarp]

i believe post portal event doesnt counts

[native condor]

Hi, i'm new here, so I have a question, will Hopoo Games update Rorr, I mean new characters, DLC or something in the future?

[tender gazelle]

unconfirmed

only thing known is official modding support

[mystic swallow]

and whens that likely to drop

[misty spruce]

Hello, do we know if Acrid is a Lemurian or not? Just wondering. New to the game btw

[tender gazelle]

i dunno

[tender gazelle]

no, he was made in a test tube

one of a kind type of guy (presumably)

[maiden lantern]

He is lemurian like but if he is actually made based off of a lemurian isn't exactly known iirc

Since as mentioned he's just an experiment

[mystic swallow]

honestly would prefer modding support b4 actual dlc ror2 is heavily moddable and at this stage theres nothing to really do in vanilla returns once you have beaten all trials and unlocked everything

[tender gazelle]

well thats whats happening

anything about dlc or additional content, if it were to ever come, should(?) be after

[jagged herald]

im doing the two lower difficulties till i learn more about the game

[native condor]

Sad

[jagged herald]

i turned off new stages and found him after 12 stages

[inner spade]

Yeah, it's good. I've stayed a while on 200/10 glass, command, cognation settings while looking for item unlocks. This effectively doubled income/xp and increased dmg x10. After that, switched to normal monsoon to play fairly.
Honestly I don't get people who are jumping into highest difficulty from the start and do challenges there.

[warm apex]

if you take the author’s word of god as legitimate, hopoo was asked this a long time ago and he simply replied “no”

[inner spade]

Lemurian is a native species for Petrichor V planet.
Acrid is a unique genetically modified creature made as a lab experiment by humans.
Labs didn't have access to lemurian's genome to include their genes into the project.
So acrid is a 100% non lemurian creature.

[drowsy halo]

Is returns worth buying?

[inner spade]

Yes unless you can't tolerate platformers in any shape or form.

It's an upgrade from an already good game, so it's great.

[narrow cave]

I love it. I recommend 10/10

Of course it’s opinion

[drowsy halo]

I’ve been really enjoying RoR2 lately and wonder if the game is as good as RoR2

Ok so the final question

[narrow cave]

If you enjoy ror2 then you will enjoy returns

[drowsy halo]

That will decide

If I get it

What online system does returns use

Cuz if it’s the steam one where you have to connect with a controller

That’s a miss for me

[narrow cave]

Local or online?

[drowsy halo]

Online

Like

Can you just join ur friend from steam

[narrow cave]

Yes

[drowsy halo]

Yippie

[narrow cave]

You can join a party like most games

[drowsy halo]

Ok I think I’ll try the game

Thanks

[narrow cave]

With a code or invite

Np

[maiden lantern]

People do generally consider 2 to be the better game but returns is still really damn good (and also not really comparable to 2 when you get the hang of it, a lot of stuff is very different)

[narrow cave]

If you dont like it steam does do refunds

[drowsy halo]

Yeah

[inner spade]

I'd say, the only caveat is the much higher base difficulty

RoRR can be daunting for a while

[maiden lantern]

Yeah especially in loops you certainly don't have as much options to stay alive, since you can really just jump around hoping the jump made you dodge the attacks

Looping is still fun btw don't get it wrong, just dying all of a sudden is much more likely than it is in 2

[shrewd karma]

a lil q: can someone give me a hint where I can find the artifact of cognation without outright telling me

[red seal]

Its in a place

Do you want the stage number?

[shrewd karma]

I was actually asking myself could it be hidden in a providence trial but I take it that's not the case?

[inner spade]

oh lol

that's a hard one

first stage
trust it'll still be hard to find

[shrewd karma]

interesting

[inner spade]

you can restart as many times as you want to reroll

probably still 1-2h of search

maybe more

[shrewd karma]

dang, okay

[inner spade]

another hint: jumps are not needed

[shrewd karma]

thanks for the advice 😎

[inner spade]

last hint: it's not near any other secrets

good luck

[zenith garden]

#theorycrafting message here’s the people who know the lore pretty well talking about it

[timid badger]

it's in the logs too

[warm apex]

true actually forgor about rorturns logs

[sharp onyx]

I'm not entirely sure where to ask this but i guess i might aswell do it here
Whilst reskinning robomando's sprites i came across some sprites that.. i guess are unused?

I'm not sure but they peaked my curiosity cause they're called "RobomandoWalkHold"
There's not many, 5 in total, and there's a unique skill icon that shares the same color as his main attack
Does Robomando have a hidden unlockable skill that replaces his shooting with him holding enemies? Lmao
Also i joined to ask this exact question cause it's gonna be scratching the back of my head the entire day

[zenith garden]

hes got a whole pile of "hold" sprites

it was probably part of a skill that got cut with that skill icon

[sharp onyx]

i see
a shame, really, would love to see the lil guy lift up things

Maybe it could be added in a future update, one can dream

[zenith garden]

yea i just tried loading in each slot alt skills and theres nothing there atm

there is a good amount of unused things so the sprite sheets are fun to explore

[sharp onyx]

Ye!
Thank ya for the info btw!

[timid badger]

by the way, when we discovered robomando looking through the text files, there were only the default four skills mentioned as having descriptions
were there any unlockable alt skills, they would have been visible there

[worthy matrix]

can you typically find scrapper machines on every stage?

[timid badger]

No.

they're rare, 1 in 5 maybe

[inner spade]

absolutely not, otherwise always picking drones would be a great strategy

given there is spare cash of course

[primal valve]

Every stage can spawn one but they are relatively rare

[empty mortar]

Moving this question here:

Question: In the original Risk of Rain, attack speed on Sniper actually lowered the damage of his Steady Aim ability due to the ability's damage being dependent on the time spent charging, and attack speed lowered the amount of time you could charge it.
Is that issue fixed for Sniper in Returns? Does attack speed no longer affect the damage of Steady Aim as intended?

[primal valve]

Yes. You always deal full damage with full charge, and Attack speed also increases charge rate.

[old snow]

what's the consensus on drifter special vs alt special

[red seal]

Neither

I dont play her 😎

[arctic umbra]

Normal special is way better

[red seal]

I've heard that alternate is just as good

[tawny sinew]

normal special falls off, alt special gets better as you go through the game

[maiden lantern]

They really are just sidegrades

Base special gives a better short term advantage

Alt special gives a better long term advantage

[timid badger]

Normal special also gets better though

It scales with attack speed and cooldown items

[proud peak]

If anything the alt special falls off

The longer your run goes the less you depend on getting the right items

And more items are just more items

[timid badger]

True

[proud peak]

Especially if an amethyst duplicator or scepter are in play too

[empty spindle]

Yeah I was thinking that but haven't played Drifter that much

[proud peak]

Duplicator and scepter alone combined are enough to let you go through the entire rest of the run itemless

Cuz thats 12 temp items per use with 33% cd reduction on scavenge and more time until the temp items decay

[timid badger]

As soon as you start stacking temp items it’s all joever

[red seal]

Joseph anderson?

[timid badger]

Joseph biderson

[woeful ginkgo]

how does predatory stack in this game

[halcyon ridge]

Would lowering my sensitivity help me aim better? I aim fast alot of the time and I'm on switch

[proud peak]

Yes but this is the channel for rorr questions

[halcyon ridge]

My bad again ;-;

[proud peak]

Eh happens to everyone

[red seal]

no worries

[mental oyster]

How does one get the command relic or whatever?

[manic pivot]

anyone wanna play?

[maiden lantern]

||There are some variants of Hive Cluster that have some vines that become visible and invisible on the very top right of the stage, just climb them and you'll encounter it ||

[mental oyster]

What's a Hive Cluster-

Oh wait

Is that a map? Or am I just stupid 😭

[maiden lantern]

It's one of the possible stage 4 maps

The one with the spiderweb like things and stuff

[mental oyster]

Ah

My max is 3 so far

[maiden lantern]

The word for coccoon didnt come to mind💀

[red seal]

It spawns on variants 1, 2 and 3 i beilieve. It'll be at the top right side of the map and you'll have to parkour through some invisible ropes

[daring bone]

you can turn off "new stage variants" in the rules tab to increase your chances

[narrow cave]

hive cluster spawns on the 4th stage. theres a 50/50 of getting hive stage or the magma stage

[mental oyster]

Alr

[primal valve]

Increased attack speed per stack

[mild sun]

Do you need hopoo feathers to get the contact light logbook?

Or is there a secret rope

[narrow cave]

As far as i know hopoo feathers or jetpacks are the only way to get it

Pilots or huntresses utility alt should help

[mild sun]

Ty

[primal valve]

You need some form of mobility, Base Loader can reach it with upwards angled Grapple.

[hexed knoll]

Is the game getting any content updates in the future

[zenith garden]

mod support is in the works but other than that unknown

[robust portal]

Do you have to know your prock coefficients

to play the game at a higher level

[primal valve]

The beuty of returns is there isn't any, Items can't proc items (2 exeptions are Fire Shield and Repulsion armor) and every skill is 1 proc coeficient (Couple skills can't proc items)

[pine zealot]

anyone have tips for overloading enemies? especially as melee characters

[quick edge]

run

and try to isolate them from a crowd

have a backup plan

they shock when they attack, try to bait out the attack and respond with your own

[sand island]

To get a boss item does it have to be from a teleporter boss? I've killed so many crematers and haven't gotten the item yet

[quick edge]

I dont think so?

I am actually not too sure

[pine zealot]

do they only shock when they attack or will they do it randomly

[quick edge]

I think they mostly shock on attack but sometimes as you get near

[zenith garden]

both, each attack will do a shock and they passivly do one around them on a timer

[quick edge]

theres like a little "cooldown between shocks

[tender gazelle]

they have a passive shock that triggers every like 8 seconds

but they also have ukelele

[empty spindle]

They're especially hard to deal with when you play on Low like I do 😅

[empty spindle]

<@&559786374228738069>

spoofed URL

It's in #providence-trials too

Actually in a lot of channels including voice channels

[proud peak]

All channels except for these forum channels for bug reports and the such

[empty spindle]

I just hope nobody actually clicks on it 😩

[robust portal]

I play risk of rain 2'

just stared a couple days ago

started*

[empty spindle]

#ror2-game-questions

[sand island]

I think I clipped past the death plane on desolate forest 💀

I went through a wall and haven't warped back

anyone know what I can do?

[proud peak]

Go back to what will hopefully be the teleport zone

[sand island]

I can't see my character

they are so far off to the side

[proud peak]

Just walk to the other side

[red seal]

Try walking, jumping, using your movements skills i guess? The same thing you did to get in there?

[sand island]

my speed is so high I just flew through the wall without an ability lol

I'm on merc, and even after using a bunch of skyward assults he's still not visible

[proud peak]

I think you may want to restart the run if its that bad

[sand island]

😭

the run has been going for 363 minutes

okay, so there's ground out in the void

just open a captians brooch chest and saw fireworks lol

[red seal]

363 minutes? holy shit

the game is basically begging you to stop at this point lol

[sand island]

I'm trying to get every item in one run lol

only missing like, 3

[primal valve]

For most part, walk towards stage until you can see some of your effects, then run bit away from stage

Haven't messed too much with high absurd speed out of~~ bounds ~~stage stuff but usually it "works out" by getting as close to the stage then moving bit away

[red seal]

didnt work out in that miner speedrun tho

[proud peak]

May I suggest drifter with scepter duplicator and amethyst?

[red seal]

drifter 😴

[primal valve]

That wasn't absurd speed tho, just bit off to clip out

[red seal]

oh okay

[primal valve]

Correcting magnitudes since high speed I'd say is semi inconsistant clipping with mobility skills and absurd speed is just clipping with movement.

Semi relevant thread :)
#1192066326773125280 message

[red seal]

do you think i need to be wary of this while using these abilities or nah?

[primal valve]

Being aware of them is "enough" since usually if you can get in you can get out.

esp. the loader short circuit since it is pretty much if you get in you will can get out (need corners for medium speed)

Acrobatics is bit more nuanced since the way you get speed with it is highly variable on the "setup" you get

Essentially if you are in air and land 1 frame after activating Acrobatics downwards with neutral on left/righ you essentally can get across Dried lake in 1 "wavedash" with 0 mobility items

[sand island]

here's a video of my situation lol

[primal valve]

Can you spam utility to left?

[sand island]

nothing has happened from that :(

[primal valve]

:(

[sand island]

I seem to be stuck in some sort of box

[red seal]

thanks for the insight!

[primal valve]

The decent amount of variability in wavedashes

[sand island]

I can always quickly find the brooch chests

[red seal]

yo but like wait

[primal valve]

Oh and Hold jump with spam jump accessibility on to preserve momentum, any left/right will overwrite the momentum

[red seal]

what if i clip throught terrain with like 10 stacks of hunters harpoons and they run out when im inside? can i softlock myself that way?

[primal valve]

That is one of the few main things

[red seal]

also airstrike too right

[primal valve]

Also Hunters harpoon is always same wamount of speed, it "just" increases stack timer

Yeah staying in air to have as little friction as possible is "the goal" for preserving momentum

[red seal]

cool

[primal valve]

Just had some random loadout so didn't have the Base special to showcase that

[red seal]

||but i still prefer rapid deployment :)||

[sand island]

I think I'm gonna have to cave and quit the run :(

[primal valve]

Unfortunate

/unstuck really should be added

[sand island]

I was only missing Legendary Spark, Bottled Chaos, and Heaven Cracker :(

[sand island]

wouldn't help me lol, I'm on switch

no chat

[red seal]

you flew too close to the sun

[sand island]

I went the opposite way actually lol

[primal valve]

Well more of function, accessible from pause preferrably

[red seal]

lmao

[prime matrix]

what is this thing

[red seal]

Thats where you came from

The teleporter

Not the teleporter you are supposed to activate of course

[proud peak]

Hey so uhhhh when exactly do the equipment dispensers break?

Ive spent the past 10 minutes farming that thing dry and its price went from like ~3k to now 177k

[proud peak]

Its at 400k im giving up this thing is never breaking

Oh shit I broke drifter shes just constantly trying to pull stuff out of her bag

Overdosed on making items and softlocked me because of it

[primal valve]

yeah that is fixed in 1.0.5 so unfortunate Switch happenings

[proud peak]

I mean it was kinda funny

[primal valve]

I've had one at ~7 million and one broke at 7 uses

[proud peak]

Does this game expect me to grind for hours?

I only ever picked up 5 million gold in total

1 mil of that being this run alone

[primal valve]

Considering you don't need to loop, no

Mainly it is there if you want to

[proud peak]

Also holy christ drifter with a duplicator and amethyst csn literally just grind forever

[primal valve]

Pretty much, she is busted for a reason

[prime matrix]

oh cool i didnt know they changed that drastically

[compact bramble]

is the archaic wisp a separate enemy than the greater wisp?

[elder patrol]

Yes

[zenith garden]

it shoots two beams at the same time

[pine elk]

You could also use robomando on it

Infinite free uses every 5 seconds

Late response but better late than never

[proud peak]

Well yeah but I cant know that in advance and I dont want to just play robomando all the time

Those captain's brooch dispensers are somewhat rare

[elder patrol]

Hehe chest printer goes brrr

[mental scaffold]

does ancient scepter change pilots normal special in any other way than just a damage increase?

[red seal]

i think you hold 3 charges

[mental scaffold]

o i just noticed

thank

[red seal]

np

[brisk moss]

Are there new survivors in "Risk of Rain Returns" because I have almost 100 hours in ror2 and I absulty love the game so I was wondering if there are going to be new survivors? if so who / how many

[empty spindle]

yeah

[maiden lantern]

If you mean new as in survivors that aren't in ror1 but are in returns there's 3, but if you mean new as in survivors that aren't in 2 but are in returns then there's 8 if i counted correctly

Altho some characters that are both in 2 and returns play very differently, like loader

[mild sun]

how do you get the golden chest on the pillars in the contact light

[timid badger]

[brisk moss]

thanks

[red seal]

too

[proud peak]

I mean arti was just taken from ror2

There is also

Le petite mando

[empty spindle]

Caustic Climb ...

[red seal]

had to look up a guide for that one too, its not that hard dw

[empty spindle]

I hate that bubble lol

[red seal]

i like it

[maiden lantern]

You only need to use it like two times in that challenge if you are just going for the bare minimum requirement to win it

[red seal]

for the gold as well?

[proud peak]

Hey so uhh what is the chance of evading an attack with 104 scarfs?

[primal valve]

~91%

To be precise

[red seal]

Obviously not enough

So, i know how steady aim crits every enemy that is behind the scanned target, but how does it work with quickscope? Does it crit every enemy in the area if the scanned one is there?

[proud peak]

How exactly do meatcubes stack? I had like 800 this run

Nvm just 588

[zenith garden]

bigger cubes

[proud peak]

Oh cool

Ok now my actual question HOW THE FUCK DO I MAKE THE ENGI ALT TURRET ACHIEVEMENT NOT A PAIN

THIS SHIT IS IMPOSSIBLE

[elder patrol]

Loop more or gamble on Contact Light

[primal valve]

TL:DW command tempus cognation prestige glass, stack barbed wires, ~20 clovers some mobility
https://youtu.be/Z_Z-MHazJ3o

[proud peak]

I looped idk 2 or 3 times I HAD to go to the contact light so my game wouldnt just crash from all the prestige mountain shrines I hit

And the only laser drone I got that entire run was one time on stage 3 which is so much unluckier than I usually am with finding those

[primal valve]

You don't want too many clovers, and once you hit ~600 barbed wires you can keep stacking prestige since then you insta kill overloading worms

[proud peak]

My brother in christ the problem was not overloading worms it was the game running at ~0.03 frames per second

Took way too long for the tp events to even finish

[primal valve]

Ah switch, then think only 10 clovers, no spawning stuff items and barbed wires should keep game more stable

[proud peak]

Tbh it probably couldve held out a few more loops but I both didnt want to risk it and got impatient

[primal valve]

Essentially, you want enough items but not too many, and particle stuffs that slow the game down.

Alternative is to "speedrun" to contact light for beam drone natural spawn

[proud peak]

After how many loops is the beam drone a relatively consistent spawn cuz Ive never seen one there

[primal valve]

It is seems to be* always similar rate, overall I think it is ~2-4% spawn rate

[proud peak]

BRUH

[primal valve]

So having low lag "god run" is more consistant way to go imo, esp if you don't mind using command for it

[proud peak]

well fuck grinding if I can get a pinky in terraria to give me a slime staff on the first day I can get this game to spawn a beam drone in the contact light after a few attempts

[primal valve]

Also going to boar beach every time you can (after scouting the level) should increase laser drone chances.

[proud peak]

Just gotta get a bit lucky for my luck to act up again

[primal valve]

GL

[modest oar]

Does the game run okay on switch? I dont have a pc but I want to play it

[proud peak]

It runs very well on switch

[modest oar]

Okay thanks!

[proud peak]

Though multiplayer can have some issues it you arent the host

[proud peak]

BRO WHAT THE FUCK IS MY LUCK I BARELY FIND ANY LASER DRONES INSTEAD SEEING COUNTLESS DRONE RECYCLERS AND THEN THE GAME JUST GIVES ME A BEAM DRONE ON STAGE 9

Also since when do beam drones just spawn on magma barracks?

[mild sun]

do you have to perfectly parry to kill an enemy or just parry before they hit you in general?

i just insta killed a sand crab stage 1 with it

but then i do the next one and hes just half health

[proud peak]

When you release theres a period of time where if you get hit damage is negated and the attack gains extreme range and double the damage

This works with any source of damage

[mild sun]

Yeah, i found out you can parry health shrines, busted asf

[proud peak]

enemies fall damage (even into the void) blood shrines and even the doll equipment

[mild sun]

jesus christ

fall damage

[proud peak]

The doll Equipment is especially funny because its like a remote controlled parry you can do

[modest oar]

I just got two reds on the first stage of my first run? Are reds rare in rorr?

[mild sun]

rarest of em all

well, maybe not one your first run

you dont have alot in your loot pool

they'll become rarer as you go

one of your 1st reds should be an mK2

[modest oar]

It was chance to slow and poison, and a freeze one

[mild sun]

ah the icecube and the thallium(?) forgot the name

decent reds

if you're running commando, if you find boxing gloves (A green item) Theyll pair well with his phase round

you can basically knock everything back as they're frozen

[modest oar]

Good to know

[mild sun]

This is a small example (??) of how it works well with the gloves, they'll never touch you

[obsidian wedge]

I saw that moon in the background and thought it was the Death Star for a second lol

[primal valve]

They are more common than in 2 but still relatively rare

[vivid vault]

i'm wanting to get all the unlocks without relying too heavily on guides, but i heard that one of the artifacts is locked behind a "noita ass puzzle". are there any that i'm not very likely to be able to figure out on my own? I only have Kin, Distortion, Glass, Origin and Tempus left

[zenith garden]

origin would be the hardest as it needs a run with certain artifacts active

the rest are either youll find them accidentally or over time

[vivid vault]

are there any other challenges/unlocks that might be unreasonably difficult without a guide?

[zenith garden]

there is ||Robomando|| a character to unlock but that one is a big secret

requiring 2 runs with a certain setup

[vivid vault]

ah yeah i remember hearing about them before the decision to get the game was made

[zenith garden]

other than those two you should be good to find everything yourself

[primal valve]

There is one artifact hidden on specific variant of specific stage (so 1/12 chance each loop to have chance of finding it.) which you might or might not naturally find.

[zenith garden]

ye theyve already got cog

[primal valve]

That was only non-secret gameplay unlock I had to look up how to get.

[hexed elk]

How do you decide whether to revisit previous levels or go on to the final boss?

[maiden lantern]

It's honestly just a thing of like, if you are having too much fun with the run and want it to go for longer then revisit previous levels, if you have had enough of that run go to the final boss

Or alternatively if you feel you aren't strong enough for the final boss yet then maybe do a couple or so more levels to see if your build gets strong enough to fight the final boss, altho most of the times revisitting becomes more chaotic than the final boss

[hexed elk]

Ok, that makes sense. I’m trying to gauge if I’m strong enough yet, but I don’t want it to get too difficult lol

[hexed elk]

Thanks for the help, just got my first win 🏆

[empty spindle]

I just almost always go straight to boss

By the time I get to the temple I'm usually like okay run is getting boring

[vivid vault]

I always accidentally hit revisit instead of final. On keyboard the revisit button is e and the final stage button is f and I keep forgetting.

[empty spindle]

You get used to it

[quick edge]

I look at the keys every time and at my hand press the right button

[red seal]

same

[limpid blade]

Does anyone know if Returns has a director system just like 2 does for spawning things?

[elder patrol]

Probably

[proud peak]

How many leeching seed would I need to get engis laser turrets to outheal themselves while just hitting one enemy

Or in other words how many hp do they lose per tick

[elder patrol]

The Turret HP lost is based on their max HP percentage

[proud peak]

Exac.... oh wait

So should I take like 20 per loop orrr?

In fact what even is their max hp (with scaling) and health decay

[gusty raft]

Shmeglin

[zenith garden]

It does have a director

[limpid blade]

If so, how does it work?

[cloud flax]

what's the general strategy for this game? I feel like the scaling is much more extreme in this game than in the other. Starting from stage 3-4 enemies just get absurdly tanky and strong. in 25 hours I've only gotten to Providence once on an engineer god run with my dad where he had 4 atgs and 1 super-atg.

I usually take my get as many items per stage as possible

is that the go-to strategy in this game or is rushing better?

[torpid sigil]

Whenever you do teleporter, nothing is locked

So try getting a few items, activate teleporter, kill, and get more items

It's quicker

Also, speed is very good in this game

[cloud flax]

yeah I've noticed how red whip is kinda crazy in this one

but uh I alr knew about stuff not being locked

but I've never really tried using that to my advantage

[tender gazelle]

do ghat then

[cloud flax]

yuh

[tender gazelle]

always activate the tp when you see it

then explore while charging it

[cloud flax]

ok

[torpid sigil]

Also, be sure to kite and jump out of attacks

[cloud flax]

what's kiteing

[torpid sigil]

Attacking while moving, e.g trying to stay away from the enemy while attacking

[cloud flax]

oh ok

also what characters are generally underpowered in this game

the problem might be there

I usually use bandit and artificer

[torpid sigil]

Artificer

Any other character is better than her atm

[cloud flax]

she is?

[tender gazelle]

artificer isnt underpowered but she requires more knowledge of the game than others

[cloud flax]

her damage feels pretty good

[tender gazelle]

to be at her max potential

[cloud flax]

ice wall => chakram kinda melts enemies

in my limited experience ofc

[torpid sigil]

Otherwise I'd say enforcer, the secret character, and maybe han-d

But it's not by much

[cloud flax]

ok

[torpid sigil]

In fact I main the secret character

So yeah

[cloud flax]

bandit kinda feels weak to me

[torpid sigil]

Bandit is really good with alt special

[cloud flax]

hes good at preventing enemies from attacking but he cant do much against bosses

[torpid sigil]

It works like desparado in 2, but for all attacks

Though it's limited to 5 "temporary" stacks

I'd recommend unlocking it

Alt utility is also really good

Throw a smoke circle that makes you invisible to enemies and they can't attack you in it

[cloud flax]

i've unlocked it, I just have played bandit only once since then

[torpid sigil]

I'd say experiment with those two

[cloud flax]

yeah I run bandit with all alt usually

sometimes with gun bc of how I got bullied the one time I got to providence bc I couldnt reach the boss with the whip

[torpid sigil]

I wouldn't recommend the whip

It's too slow and short

[cloud flax]

but piercing feels pretty crucial in this game

is it not?

[torpid sigil]

It is, but it's not good if the area is two soda cans

[tender gazelle]

both of bandit's primaries are good

whips range is pretty good

it goes beyond the sprite by a bit

it deals good damage

[torpid sigil]

Besides, bandit is more a hit n run character

Dynamite, stay afar with alt special and normal primary

[tender gazelle]

(for reference, blast actually does 80% damage, not 150%. so whip's 200% with piercing is a pretty big difference in damage)

[torpid sigil]

Fair

I just generally prefer keeping distance with most characters

[tender gazelle]

maybe

[cloud flax]

why does blast do 80 instead of 150

is it just a typing error

[tender gazelle]

i think its good to get used to being close to enemies because one of the best items in the game is toxin which relies on that

[fresh lichen]

I do think her alt kit still needs a serious rework

[tender gazelle]

yes the description has the wrong numbers

many such cases

[cloud flax]

rock and sun are kinda useless yeah

[torpid sigil]

True, I tend to walk through enemies when I eventually get cornered

[cloud flax]

but i love the piercing lightning

[tender gazelle]

suns goated with the sauce dude

tectonic idk sure i dont like it that much

[cloud flax]

it's absurdly fun to use

ice wall is too vital to chakram

[torpid sigil]

I could never play arti because of the primary

[cloud flax]

to make tectonic ever worth it

[torpid sigil]

That's my main ick on her

[cloud flax]

why^

[torpid sigil]

.

[cloud flax]

makes sense

[torpid sigil]

Unless it's a melee character, I prefer distance

[cloud flax]

but you have acrid as your tag

oh

well i mean shes pretty much a melee character

[torpid sigil]

Acrid is more hit and run with spreading the stuff and pandemic

As well as spitting

[cloud flax]

kinda weird how I've accidentally ended up maining the least liked character in both games

[torpid sigil]

I main two pilots

Pilot in rorr my beloved (wavedash)

[cloud flax]

how do you pilot btw

i know about wavedash

he just feels kinda weak except the secondary

[torpid sigil]

Lots of kiting

He's basically the proc character, especially with rapid fire

[tender gazelle]

commando clears

[torpid sigil]

True

Love shotgun plus full metal

Occasionally use knife

[tender gazelle]

both of mando's secondaries goated for procs

[torpid sigil]

Yeah

I also love knife plus toxin

[cloud flax]

also 2 questions : is there proc coefficient in this game

[tender gazelle]

nope

[torpid sigil]

I don't know

[tender gazelle]

no proc chaining either

[torpid sigil]

It's just percentages innit

[tender gazelle]

only items that can proc other items is like

fire shield

and smth else

[cloud flax]

and can a skill that pierces enemies proc something multiple times according to the amount of enemies hit

[torpid sigil]

I think?

[tender gazelle]

yes

[cloud flax]

ok

[tender gazelle]

thats why full metal jacket is good

[cloud flax]

and can chef's boomerang proc stuff twice

[tender gazelle]

infinite piercing no falloff so you get a proc chance per enemy

[torpid sigil]

Yup

[tender gazelle]

chef doesnt proc on the way back

[torpid sigil]

Wait what

[tender gazelle]

yea

[torpid sigil]

I swore it did, mb

[tender gazelle]

was surprised too

[cloud flax]

kinda sadge

but makes sense

where is the robot janitor btw

like which map

[tender gazelle]

contact light

[cloud flax]

thats stage 6 right?

[tender gazelle]

yea

[cloud flax]

ok

[tender gazelle]

final area

[cloud flax]

and any tips to unlock the 6 recycled drones guy

do I just need to loop for that one

[torpid sigil]

Or get lucky yeah

[tender gazelle]

you can recycle the drone from the drone repair kit 6 times

or just get lucky