feedback-readonly

[slim prairie]

Its jsut to prevent first night kill

Like if ww hit them luckily on first day they dont insta win

[tired bane]

oooh that's fair

[slim prairie]

:)!

I thought of tjis last night

N i was so freaking proud of myself

[tired bane]

but like otherwise I think it might be a bit too op if they didn't get targeted on the first night yknow

[slim prairie]

I was like reviewing why ritualist is so much fun to myself n i came up with this

[slim prairie]

Hmm then i cld change that

[tired bane]

maybe it could be something like, the first night they're immune but every night after that it's only 1

[slim prairie]

So their role is known immediately

[slim prairie]

Ahhh ok

[tired bane]

or that yeah

[slim prairie]

Yea that sounds right

[tired bane]

which was how it was originally

[slim prairie]

Ill go edit it in

Also why is keymaker n voodoo not in sandbox?

Theyre alr in the rolelist

Im confused

[quaint bramble]

#questions they're part of the role cards beta + just added in the lists for teasers, it's pretty common.

[cyan barn]

Have all "variant" roles listed somewhere within either the server or the game... i've seen blood seer, instigator, and iirc someone who is like a sheriff who can check post-kill?

[quaint bramble]

they will all be added live sooner or later...
the last one you mention, mortician is already playable

[slim prairie]

Ohh ok

Noted

I hope my reworked president gets considered 🥺

[shut pecan]

what is blood seer??

[cyan barn]

feln apparently knows

[teal schooner]

Blood Seer is Nether's role, can check if a player can kill or not

[cyan barn]

one that got in game?

or was i being trolled 😔

also

we need a BH pensive emoji

[teal schooner]

It was seen in the RRV list a while back, can't really confirm if it actually is ig

[cyan barn]

...

wym "a while back"

?

[teal schooner]

There was a ss of it being in rrv

[cyan barn]

when tho?

[teal schooner]

Dunno, ss was in #wov-chat

[mossy cipher]

make it possible for med and ritualist to revive evil roles (for med it should be in custom game only, for clan wars/row wars)

[teal schooner]

Uh no, just no

[cyan barn]

i second this notion

for several reasons
including the fact hat it specifies that ritualist can throw in lobbies

[mortal osprey]

Did someone ghost ping me?

[dull burrow]

I played my first game with mortician in game just now. And I have to agree with whoever mentioned above before that it is slightly OP. Reason is because there’s no consequence or limitations to the role. Its similar to detective, spirit seer and sheriff everyone seems to say. Which all have their faults that could make their information not completely reliable so it gives the evils a slight chance at least. Mortician can see any dead player they want and get information that can even be two evils. A fix could be to delay the information like someone said or to limit the amount of checks they can do per game.

[teal schooner]

I agree Mortician is powerful but... Don't on the said nerfs.

[runic dragon]

A reporting feature can also be brought to the game-private messages section. Obscene, harassment, slang and insults can be removed from private in this way.

[burnt bluff]

Heyya my feedback is about an Easter Egg,
I would like to dm any helper / trial helper available

[nocturne wharf]

I'm not sure I understand correctly how one of the new card perks works, but if I do understand it correctly it needs to be changed 100%.

Some of my members in the Beta say the clan quest waiting time gets reduced if they play witch/forger/mayor... 1 min play time = 3 minutes reduced clan quest waiting time.

We have a clan doing 2 Quests per week, we plan our skips to the exact hour so everybody has 3 days time to do their XP. When this update rolls out to everybody, this will mess up our skips and may lead to quests being done significantly sooner = not everybody able to do their XP cause the stages are pretty random then.

It's just the same with people who do one Quest per week - people are expecting it to run for 6 days, and suddenly it may be over after 5.

I'd either change the perk completely, or do it differently: make it a "bank system" like with gold+gems, and leader+co can decide if and when to spend the minutes people gathered with the Perk, to make quest times less random.

[cinder atlas]

To be one big in the middle

[ancient carbon]

Oops

[zealous hollow]

I believe mortician should be renamed coroner. Mortician deals with the preparation of the body for the funeral. Mortician doesnt look for criminal.

[slim prairie]

What abt forensics?

[nova widget]

I was last villager, bh, trap on myself. Only 1 ww and sk left. We voted out sk. Actually last ww would have died trying to kill me next night and therefore it would have been a village win. But game ended with ww win after sk got voted out. This situation should be reconsidered in my opinion. Same with only fool and 1 ww left. Fool still has a chance to win...

[broken cedar]

The reason why wolves win when ever their number is equal the number of villagers left is because they're kinda weak, and they need that advantage
I can't think if any other reason someone might wanna add to this?

[light raft]

You dont get the Game itself I guess. You Sleep at Night means your Trap is infront of your House or the House of the one you protect. During Day you are in the City lynch someone or not, a Werwolf stand infront of you not your Trap. How you survive this? If they rework this then Killer should win like ww when just one other is standing

#feedback-readonly Now to my Feedback. Mortician is completlly Broken. Its just Sherrif but better like most of the new Villager Roles. If the Solo is a Killing Role there is no way of winning, ww lose against Mortician always, ALWAYS. Just Zombie, Cult and Solo Roles like that have a chance of winning. This whole Role is a bad Joke with zero Chance of losing in a Round with pro Gamer. Even with new Player dont know the Game there is almost no chance of losing for Village

[stone meadow]

100% agree. Too overpowered. Should be removed

[light raft]

Also Ritualist is just Medium but waaayy better. They never accept improved versions of bad Roles but where the Hell is Ritualist not a better Medium? Can revive after you killed it

Werwolfes and Killer always aimed for Medium to kill before they kill a Seer so they prevent the revive. Now forget about it. If you kill all the Seer first Night you got it, if not you can pack your Stuff

[runic dragon]

F this game i have been playing over a hundred games today and never been the new role and finally i am the new role and i get killed first night

[tired hearth]

I this probably has been said before but I think there should be a skip option (for discussion) on quick game mode- just like sandbox.

[gentle rose]

I also said that Mortician is very OP, but that's with several seers in the game , the bad roles doesn't have a chance

[vital skiff]

Aye, plenty of nerfs have been suggested already

[gentle rose]

Ritualist thought it was good, he needs to put the skill on a player before the player dies to resurrect, so there's a chance the player dies and the skill doesn't have on them, he can also revive werewolves and killer so it's an ok role

[light raft]

Thats just for the first Night and not a single pro playeer whould not put this on Seer or a different Seeing Role so the ww argument is just non existent to me

The moment the Ritualist put this on a random guy its almost a garantee report of teaming

[ripe cradle]

Thats true tbh

[gentle rose]

Werewolves and killer need OP roles, the reason Mortician and ritualist is OP, is that werewolves and killer are weak
Killer is only good if you have convert because it has more chances to win, and werewolves only have bersek and shadow of strong roles

If there were more strong roles for the other teams, It would balance things out.

The voodoo wolf seems to be strong, but not available yet

[toxic heron]

Sk doesnt really have to win too much, ww too Because village can be fooled by 4 ww. And really doesnt need a OP role because theres 6 evils and 1 village that can be converted so its 9vs6

But mortician is a test role too and kinda overpower

[slate epoch]

Change "and you will be revived at the start of night {0}" to "and you will be revived after the {phase} phase"

Where phase can be "discussion", "voting" or "night"

And maybe change sleeves to the red brown-ish color, just like the color of the ritualists icon. The teal sleeves refers more to the mortician

[slim prairie]

Yo thats a good point doe

I didnt think abt this

Thats the main prob with revival roles. They HAVE to revive the seer or the other seeing roles and thrs no fun in that

[stone meadow]

Girrllll yas, i was bout to say this

[stone meadow]

Nah getting tired of wws roles, with the village too opt wws can hardly win unless they be faking something

We need a new opt roles for wws too!

I just got in game where ritualist can revive two people. What tf is that a glitch?

[vital skiff]

A glitch where it can revive two players is presumably what that is.

[cinder atlas]

Ideea : Guardians for every language

There are many people that don't speak English so, it would be a good idea to have Guardians for every language.

Example: You have been banned for cheating (gamethrow) and you don't know very well English.You try to explain what happened but you cannot formulate the sentence correctly,and the Guardian won't understand anything.

[slim anvil]

Mortician is fairly broken as there’s almost always gonna be a dead player for them to check.

A suggestion is maybe make it so Mortician can only use their power 2 or 3 times pergame. Since again Mortician will alwyays have something to check.

[floral heath]

Beta Feedback: How is it fair to high level players when they have to grind 1million XP to level up for a chance to get a card compared to say a low level that only needs to grind like 10x less that amount?

high level veteran* players I mean cuz I can get newer players having to grind more to level up as they play more but then theres the people who already have a high level

[runic dragon]

Unfair games, caused by flees and offline players
↝ Flees:

• Now with the new update, WWs flee one second before the 30-second voting is over, due to this the WWs survive one round more, which can be a gamechanger!

↝ Offline players:

• Offline players cause one voter left.

↝ **Solutions: **

• People can't flee once they got voted, or you can vote on the fleed players that have a 'hero' can join symbol.
• The offline players won't be counted in the voting, which means you need fewer votes or something.

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Quests:
↝ Skins:

• Our clan has done all quests now, it would be nice if new quests come out soon :)

---

Rose trading/scams
↝ Trading:

• Make it so there comes a new game mode called "Trading". Here you can trade your roses for special items, skins, and other people their roses. The skins are still bought by gems, and the items can be obtained by chests, bought with 1000+ gold, and can be bought with gems for a limited time only! With this people can have their own collection and roses are worth more :). It all goes like with a system so no scams.

↝ Benefit:

• The guardians will have fewer reports to go through :)

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Social hangout
↝ Make a room with around 16 players where people can just socialize together, make new friends if they want, and mainly just chill.

NOTE: There are downsides, there have to be more active guardians, otherwise many trolls will come and ruin these chats :)

---

Keyboards
↝ People bypass slurs using another keyboard. EG: You can just use a greek keyboard for the "e" (ε). This is also useful for the people that use other languages as that will just blacklist them from using it :), won't work on all.

[ancient carbon]

Pro players (in my opinion) wont always target informers but target bullets as ritualist

[light raft]

Like who? Who next to Gunner has two Bullets? The Moment the Vigilante, the Witch, the Jailer etc killed they are almost useless. Seer is never useless, Aura when there are just unk Roles are left but next to that no one is more usefull the whole Game. So yeah the Ritualist whould and should put his Magic on Seer

[jade crow]

With the role cards beta, there are two main gripes I have with it, one being that seer app being an advanced role of bg makes no sence, prehaps it being an advanced role of aura seer or spirt seer would make more sence, the other being that the stubborn ww needs an icon that's defferent from alpha, prehaps a simillar one but with a 💢 like thing on it

[meager gyro]

Theres no difference between the amount of xp a level 1000 player needs to level up than a level 12 player needs
Its always 2k, besides the first levels

Experienced veterans can claim special cards that contain "old" advanced roles that you played a specific amount if times based on teams

[floral heath]

then theres a visual bug then, difference between lv512 and lv69

wait nvm just realised that was my total accumulated XP my bad, ok extra feedback to add a separate XP bar below the accumulated once in place of the “XP to next level” so as to not get confused between the two

[vital skiff]

They just haven't made one for stubborn wolf yet, the other new roles only recently (like a few days ago) got theirs but their original icons were just whatever role they replace. Plus my original role suggestion had an icon idea in it-

So just gotta give them some time

[ancient carbon]

You dont need to revive someone who has two bullets, reviving vigi or witch is fine as long as they didnt used their ability. Reviving jailer is very good as it can roleblock. If you want to continue this discussion then ping me in #strategy-discussion

[limpid fractal]

Idea : Make it so you see the roles of who you checked

[ancient carbon]

Make seer see the roles of the people they previously checked?

[limpid fractal]

Yea

Bc it kinda like waste seconds of going back to see who you checked

Same goes to wolf seer and sorcerer also

Not to aura and ss

[ancient carbon]

But seer should remember who did they checked, its their problem if they lose time over that

[echo aspen]

Thanks for the reminder, almost forgot to add 😅

[ancient carbon]

Clean

[limpid fractal]

Also another feedback : Know when you got first card of day because of timer to 5 cards per day

[limpid fractal]

The eye looks like a moon 👁️

[vital skiff]

Ayyyy, looks great!

[jade crow]

Change warewolf fan to where they always win with warewolves so it isnt as hard to win as fan, also make it to where the fan can "listen in" on the private messages that the alpha can send before they're converted two or three times per game (prehaps when they send the message it is hidden with it saying "tap/click to listen in. You can do this [X] more times this game]")

[quaint bramble]

in the appeal ticket, you just have to ask
if you only play x language games, then they try to assign your case a guardian that speaks your language
they do already have them for a lot of languages

[runic dragon]

Hey hey, such a feature has already been suggested multiple times before and you can vote for it here: #feedback-devs message.
Thanks for your suggestion

Hey hey, I understand why you want to change it, but imo surgeon does not really fit. A surgeon performs operations to save people/their lives (one might assume they protect players), while mortician examines dead players for cause of death. So I think mortician is more fitting then surgeon, but I understand why you want to change it. And if you have any other suggestions, let me hear them. Thank you very much

[quaint bramble]

nope thats not what a mortician does irl, keep reading

morticians are the peeps that prepare and dress up a body for the funeral etc

they dont investigate anything either

Coroner is the correct word, but apparanttly thats a TOS role so it cant be used

[runic dragon]

Hey hey, there are already several animations for the different causes of death, such as a fire above the player in arsonist. But for me to understand: you propose extra animations for the player themselves, which you only see personally when you die, according to the cause of death? And they are bigger and cover the screen? Thanks in advance

Hey hey, something similar has already been suggested a short time ago and you can vote for it here: #feedback-devs message
Thank you very much for your suggestion

[runic dragon]

Hey hey,

As some of you noticed, we have started to add a larger number of new roles to the game (with more coming 🥳 ). Over the next weeks/months we will start testing them in sandbox.

Both are soon upcoming roles, which will most likely be tested soon. You can stay patient and wait until they are announced in #game-updates. Thank you very much
||And if you have any questions, I suggest you to ask in #questions as you get most likely a faster reply there||

[fickle garnet]

Change the secret chat function of alpha ww, the bullet confused me when i played as aww again. and change the role information so it includes the "you can send messages to you teammates privatly once a day" or something like that

[arctic quail]

✦ Heya! The bullet is just a temporally template that will be replaced soonish

[runic dragon]

Hey hey, I think this wouldn't be a good idea, because reviving evil roles as med/ritu would be in every case a disadvantage for their own team and might be considered throwing. But thanks for your suggestion

[runic dragon]

Hey hey, this has already been suggested before and been put in #dev-vote where you can vote for it by react with 🥎 on this message: #dev-vote message
Thank you very much

[runic dragon]

Hey hey, if still needed, you can dm me

[runic dragon]

Hey hey, I forwarded your suggestion. Thank you very much

[runic dragon]

Hey hey, I totally understand why you want to rename it, but coroner is sadly not possible and can't be used, as this was the name of a role in town of salem. I hope you understand this and feel free to tell me any other suggestions. Thank you very much

[runic dragon]

Hey hey, the winning condition of ww is to be equal to the amount of villagers. By only 1 ww and bh/fool left, they fulfilled their requirement which results in a win for the ww. About changing it, I understand your point, but imo it is already difficult enough for the wws to win. But thanks for your suggestion

[runic dragon]

Hey hey, I am sorry you don't like the role and think it is too strong, but do you have any specific suggestions on how to nerf it? Thanks in advance

[runic dragon]

Hey hey, the name "forensics" is being discussed atm. @severe pier would you agree on this name, fitting more? Thank you very much

[vital skiff]

On top of all that, could I recommend Pathologist as a replacement for Mortician?

[compact python]

sorry to jump in but Forensics is more of a deparment/field/study and really isn't used as a job or role

[runic dragon]

Hey hey, I understand why you think this role is really strong, but on the other hand (as nerf), ritualist can't rev player which are dead and they didn't select before(what med can do on the other hand). Like if vigi died they can't decide spontaneous that they revive vigi, but instead they either selected vigi before or vigi stays dead. I hope you understand this and thank you very much

[runic dragon]

Hey hey, this has already been suggested before and you can vote for it here: #feedback-devs message Thanks for your suggestions💛

[toxic heron]

Autopsy is really good too

[quaint bramble]

thats also not a job name, but rather the action they are doing

[toxic heron]

Pathologist too close to a study

[quaint bramble]

a surgeon performs a surgery
a coroner performs an autopsy

[toxic heron]

Well yeah coroner also good

[quaint bramble]

it is a job name, like archeologist

[quaint bramble]

except tis taken by TOS

[vital skiff]

Well, yes- it's someone in the field of pathology, like how a scientist does science

[toxic heron]

its a job, But it's more about studying disease

[quaint bramble]

i do agree it isnt really the right thing technically

but you just explained t badly

[vital skiff]

Virologists study pathogens, pathologists examine dead bodies

Although well, obviously it's not quite that simple but pathologists do often examine dead bodies

[runic dragon]

Hey hey, the devs are already informed about it and it will change within the next update. Thank you very much

[floral heath]

TOS dont have a Coroner role?

[vital skiff]

Their new game, Traitors in Salem, does.

[floral heath]

ah right, ripped among us of course

Since y’all talked about Mortician, my nerf idea is that Mortician should have to check a dead and alive player. Mortician is notified if said alive player killed the dead player. This stops Mortician from just checking the solo killer kill first to instantly take out the solo killer, yet still maintains the Mortician’s purpose to use the dead as info to find alive players guilty

[vital skiff]

That's what Coroner does-

[floral heath]

dang

[runic dragon]

Hey hey, I understand why you are suggesting this, but there are already many different guardians for lot different languages. Also the guardian manager will decide when new guardians are needed and for what language (like in the last guardian application they looked for Dutch, French, Portuguese, Thai, Turkish and/or Vietnamese speaking guardians) Thanks for your suggestion

[twilit hollow]

Can the advanced roles be less dull? They’re a bit harder for me to see.

[vital skiff]

That's actually it. They are. When you get a card that has one, it's bright like the others.

[twilit hollow]

Oh, my bad. I still think they should be brighter. Too dark imo

[twilit hollow]

But I don’t have a bandit card, or a lot of the basic role cards but they’re still bright. How come?

[vital skiff]

Because those roles are basic and playable by all, I think advanced ones will be locked behind said cards.

[runic dragon]

Hey hey, this has already been suggested before and is atm up to the devs. Thank you very much

[runic dragon]

Hey hey, both nerfs have been suggested before and are up to the devs. Thank you very much

[cinder atlas]

Exactly.When you are getting shoot by Gunner (or other shooting roles), you will see the bullet "destroying " the screen

Also :You can dezactivate the option from the menu

Like this

Or something

[zealous hollow]

seriously? This is the problem? OK, there is a synonym for coroner: medical examiner

[slim anvil]

So I'm checking out the new BETA feature (cards) and it is very appealing to look at

[echo aspen]

Does having a "lock" icon make things a bit easier to understand? :/

[twilit hollow]

It’s not that I don’t understand whether they’re unlocked or not, it’s that it kinda strain my eyes trying to tell what the roles are

[vital skiff]

Maybe have a black background if they're locked and the normal one if unlocked? With the icons being the same

Actually dark mode probably already has a black background-

[twilit hollow]

Well yes, I use dark mode here

[vital skiff]

Yeah I realize that now, oop-

[jade crow]

Evil det should be an advanced role under sk as it's basically sk but they can risk getting two kills if their targets are part of different teams, but might get no kills if thier targets are part of the same team

[low plover]

I like Meedium6 's name

That was my feedback

[brazen parrot]

Sorry for late reply 😅
I'm pretty sure devs will think about be able to buy music tracks in the store. And since it isn't necessary make a repost, I won't post it. Thanks for your time!

[proud jacinth]

Do the developers of this game think that village don't win enough? Mortician was a huge buff for village, specially against solo killers. They're too busy buffing village team when it's already strong enough.

[brazen parrot]

Okay, so what about add different ways to obtain all curly hairstyles?

X hairstyles as clan mission (as single item)
X hairstyles in the inventory to buy for roses/gold
X hairstyles as special offer in the shop (the special offer will appear sometimes)

What do you think?

[mossy cipher]

i did say it can be custom-only, for special mode like row wars

[quaint bramble]

@brazen parrot what do i pick if i dont think either of the suggested mortician nerfs are right

[brazen parrot]

Good question 🤔, maybe you can upvote and react with a "🤷" too. Or maybe downvote the post directly

[shut pecan]

I wish we could say "but it's" without being censored

both nerfs are bad imo... the first delays info when its already delayed. u only get info on day 2

the second makes it impossible to follow if 1 or 2 ppl fake mortician

the info becomes useless too... too close to random

[frigid iron]

What about bodies decaying after a day, so that with two deaths only one can be checked

[shut pecan]

hmmm. that sounds not so complicated, not bad

i like current version tho

[quaint bramble]

Yeah i think being able to check them only in the night they die, would be good

[slim prairie]

Small feedback PLS give vigil tracing animation 😭😭😭😭

[slim prairie]

Wait a min dont tell me u gotta now BUY roles if u wanna play them

I hate that wtf??? R u serious rn?

[quaint bramble]

nope thats not it
they are unlocked with free content as well
and some of them are also playable on their own

[slim prairie]

oh ok

I got SO scares

Im like EA sensors activated! Scanning for micro-transactions BRRRRR

[runic dragon]

Hi i wana persian language in game

[slim prairie]

Ooo what if u added a translation thingy

Like u click on an unk lang n it gets translated to your lang

Or wld that be out of yr league to add in

I had this revolutionary idea a few months ago whilw watching a mario maker stream

What if ww online became that??

There wld be no quick game, ranked game or wtv(or maybe they wld idk) and most games wld be in custom games

N the way u get into games is like Among Us

Idk lmao random idea

Cuz custom games need more love :(

[quaint bramble]

try organizing your thoughts into one message before spamming them...

[slim prairie]

Right sorry bad habit ;-;

[runic dragon]

Who can help me?

[slim prairie]

Me?

Wdy nd halp wif

[runic dragon]

How i can add my language

[slim prairie]

Oof thats not a feature u gotta just feedback it n wait on the devs

[quaint bramble]

what do you mean with 'adding' in server, in game settings, quickgame?

[runic dragon]

In settings my language isnt exist

[quaint bramble]

then you can contact a mod and apply to translate it yourself

cause they cant spontaeously put stuff ingame unless people volunteer to work on it

[runic dragon]

Aha ok

[broken cedar]

Reduce the number or accounts you can accumulate or log into in the app.

This is my reason why

[red pawn]

Hi, I have ideas to prove the mortician role which is too op:
The mortician will be able to use his ability only once per a game.

[vital skiff]

Pretty sure they still want it to be infinite use, just weaker infinite use- It replaces Detective after all, which is infinite use

[slim prairie]

how abt mortician shows which row the murderer is

rather than 2 suspects

[astral rock]

i wish we can change the lobby music to old one

werewolf online music

[ancient carbon]

But imagine the row is full of dead players but one alive

[floral heath]

id be more scared if it was a row of 4 alive people tbh, how do you even get info from that :/

[ancient carbon]

Tbh thats true

[floral heath]

i mean the main issue for Mortician imo is the ability to find solo so easily. If you just changed the ability to find solo, say you can only check bodies killed by ww (although i think this nerf is too extreme, it should be able to find solo as well) or my current thought, you can only check killer victims after all ww are dead. These should allow the killer enough time to murder before real Mort gets confirmed and all WW are killed

[ancient carbon]

Yeah

[floral heath]

or u can only check killer victims after night X.. say u can only start finding killer bodies starting N3/N4 so its not just WW that are being focused maybe

cuz getting randomly checked on N2 (not manually btw, the game auto checks solo for you N2) is what makes it broken, if you gave a good solo 3 nights he’d be fine, and an average solo would do with 4, atleast has time to reach to a Mortician claim, although most Mort i seen dont claim D1 unless told which is surprising

[slim prairie]

or the amt of suspects is equal to the amt of players killed

[misty wind]

I don't think it's a bug so i send here

Mortician logo it's blurry

[gloomy sorrel]

Yeah it's like that for everyone

/lh

[burnt bluff]

Save avatar button in here,

Currently there's no way to save progress on making avatar while editing it
( as we've to go back to home screen to save it )

So a save button would be helpful while editing the avatar so can save and undo back to somewhere in between instead of redo whole avatar

[runic dragon]

Update rule section as some rules are outdated, EG: age restriction

[ebon nova]

When Mortician checks a dead, they get "X or Y killed Z last night" which should be just "X or Y killed Z" since you could be checking two nights after.

[shrewd shard]

hello, i need to talk with a mod or someone who is allowed to give me some items in the game. i bought something with real money and a message appeared "why are you trying to cheat?". i need help

[native yarrow]

Make it so you can toggle in a setting somewhere for if you want friend related activities or not

If you have it off, you won't receive friend requests, won't get the "finish x games you joined with a friend" goal and will swap out the card friend game bonus for something else

Why? Because many of us don't have friends that play this game, and many of us don't want to have strangers from the internet as friends, if that's the objective of the game it's not very well advertised

[vague pasture]

🌿 Custom game suggestion🌿
➡️Add icons on the custom games list to show if talisman and friend invites are activated.

• Prevent us to enter a game just to see if they are activated (If the game start you'll be stuck in a game you didn't want to play)

Note: When the game phases time are changed it is showed at the same place I put the icons so it have to be moved?
||dont judge this crappy drawing lol||

[sour cave]

Something is happening in ranked. Some people are teaming or they so dumb voting confirmed good and listening to confirmed bad.
This is happening alot. Even in Quick game this thing does not happen

[gentle anvil]

In sandbox is something happening also there are more teamer and trolling dudes and mostly it's players with level 1-20

I get many notifications that players got banned and I only Play in sandbox there should be something like Only people with 25+ level can play this mode it's really annoying

[sour cave]

Yeah people making alternative accounts going in ruining the game or insulting people then going out

[gentle anvil]

Yea it's a big problem I don't hv the motivation to play anymore bc of this

Also some friends of mine stopped playing bc of this

[torpid birch]

Does anyone saw that marksman is so awful

[gentle rose]

I have a suggestion about the player profile
First I'll start with something social.

Likes and dislikes options, and reactions:
It would be interesting if player profiles like avatar and bio had a like and dislike option.

-Starting with the avatar, each avatar could have an option for players to like or dislike, these likes would be on the profile, under the avatar. If the player changes the avatar, the likes would be reset and there would be a TAG of "New" on top of the avatar to indicate that the avatar was changed, the TAG would stay for 3 days.
Also a new tab when a player clicks on an avatar in the profile, in this new tab you would have detailed avatar information, where players could comment, give reactions, see where to get each avatar item... Also an option to customize avatar information. avatar, where players could put a mini description on that avatar, age and among other things. This information would be open to the public and it would all be fictional.

• The bio could have a reaction system, for example, a sad face to a happy face or with heart in the eyes. Reactions would also be reset when the player changed their bio.
  The characters in the bio could increase a little more, for example, increase by 40 characters, or close to that.

• The profile could have a new option, indicating the total of likes and dislikes that the player received, it could also have a general like option on the player for people to give their opinions about this player. The avatar and player likes would be different things, just the option to show the total number of likes that would all be together. The player would also be able to hide the amount of dislikes on the profile to prevent any problems.
  The game can be family friendly, but it would also be nice if there was an option for you to define your relationship with a player within the game. For example, you are playing with your partner, so in your profile you could set a status for everyone to see as "In relationship with (other player's name)" or "Married/Dating (other player's name). The player's name would update automatically if they change nickname, and also for you to set your status with another player, you would need his permission. It would be like a status for you to define the person most important to you.
  Option to follow a player could also be added, it would not be add as a friend but just follow. You wouldn't be able to invite this person to play games or chat with them privately, but you could see their profile without being in a match.

General profile, other things:
I know this has been suggested a long time ago, but I have new suggestions for game stats.
Total stats should be hidden (Total wins, total defeats, fleeing count). Instead it could be the stats you got during a season, being open to the public. Many players have already made several mistakes, and this is something that is recorded in the profile, players evolve and change over time but statistics still remain a burden for players, and this can cause some problems in relation to that player. So hiding the total stats and leaving the season stats for the public would be better, and those stats would always reset at the start of each season. In version 2.0.0 the number of statistics has already been hidden, but the percentage remains

• Another detail is the level border on the profile, the designer could change it to bronze, silver, gold and diamond depending on the level.

• It could also have the option for you to choose your 3 favorite roles and put them in the profile, to be shown to the public.

• Having the option for you to put your country's flag on the profile would also be nice. It wouldn't be mandatory, people would put it if they wanted to, and it could help to identify people from the same country.

And my last suggestion is to add items that can be exchanged for gems, gold or roses in the game. You would need to receive these items from other players, each item would require a certain amount to exchange, for example:

5 toy wolf = 100 gold
5 torches = 1 gem
5 fool's hat = 3 rose

You would get these items for free and you would need to send them to another player (just like the roses), the items you received would stay in the inventory accumulating where you could exchange for gems, gold and roses.

[gentle anvil]

It doesnt make fun to play anymore only people who troll also many people leave day 2 or at the end of Night 2 so they wont get replaced by hero's it's so annoying

Or team

This game gets destroyed by assholes

[fickle garnet]

When your teamplayers role is revealed you should see the role of the person and not only the paw and (in this example) the vigilante flute, just like when you are villager

[grave osprey]

I love the game, but it can not be that if you land in the hero mode in the Quick Game there once again 4 people teaming, including the Vigi, who shoots down the Aura and in the voting also the village, votes not the ww but the Aura.

What I want to say here is that I find the advanced mode really good, but even he is not enough. 20 wins are really nothing. Why can't it be raised? Because then not everyone can get in there so fast? But that's exactly what everyone wants! As many games as I know, almost all of them have a ranking system, so you run into "equally strong" people. For me, a lobbies would be enough in which there is a condition like: From level 100, from 200 wins, suicide rate max. 10% and more.

I'm sure that would not only be my wish.

furthermore I wanted to say that the current beta is really a good idea, even there but there are "Boost" on cards. Yet another reason to change the lobbies what, so that one does not have advantages that the other does not, for example, the highlighted messages of the medium.

[chrome jacinth]

You can see their role. You’d have to adjust it in your settings to able to see it

[fickle garnet]

Yes i know that but if you have this setting with the paws it would be nice to have this

[quaint bramble]

if your money did get taken from your bank account, then contact payment support
If you have more questions, use the #questions channel

[hearty lantern]

I purchased something with real money ingame but didn't get my items!

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[novel carbon]

I suggest to hire more people to handle the mails from the howl-mail because it takes way to long 🥲

[runic dragon]

getting/upgrading role cards without spending gems is very difficult, I suggest that when a player advances in level, they gets 3 cards instead of 1

[vital skiff]

That just makes them too common, they aren't supposed to be mega easy to get. Plus there's already also daily challenges and daily rewards. But making it so you just get a rare every time someone levels up makes cards too easy to get.

[formal fable]

Wait, how do we get those role cards ?

Oh ok my bad, I know

[vital skiff]

Yeah, leveling up, daily challenges, daily rewards. A pretty good amount obtainable

[runic dragon]

As much as there are other ways to obtain cards, it is not enough, those who have many gems can buy a high amount of cards without having made any effort, giving more advantage to those who buy gems. and for those who can't buy cards at the store, this feature ends up losing the fun

[vital skiff]

I mean, it is enough, you just want more-

And yeah naturally the game will let those who pay money get some benefits.

Just a kinda greedy request to just ask for triple the amount of cards for leveling up tbh-

[slender wing]

leveling up is pretty easy, just play the game

[limpid fractal]

Bro just activate the mode to see others wolf role 💀 i just dont understand people's who don't activate it

[limpid fractal]

screams pay to win

[floral heath]

pay to win unless you boost in custom 💀

[limpid fractal]

I boost in custom and still @floral heath

I am still poor in card

I have 1 epic cupid card

[floral heath]

AAHAHAHAHAHA

[limpid fractal]

And 2 commun card

[median elbow]

Revamp the rose wheel by adding role cards where the lootboxes are placed

[limpid fractal]

Omg yessss

[mossy cipher]

instigator's recruits should be selected after the first night end, not immediately when the game start, to prevent instigator insta lose after first night

[brazen parrot]

Hello again, I was thinking about it. Mortician can realize an autopsy on players killed by roles like illusionist or alchemist, maybe the line attacked publicly could lead confusion. What do you think?

[brazen parrot]

Hello! Wow, that's a lot of feedback! Let me see 👀

Flees

I'm agree, people can use this as exploit and it's unfair, there's a post in #feedback-devs related to you suggestion, you can upvote here ⬇️
#feedback-devs message

Offline players

Alright, I can give it a repost in #feedback-devs, thanks for your feedback!

Quests
Devs will implement more skin quest when they think it's necessary, so post it in #feedback-devs isn't a good idea. However, what do you think add clan quest where you can obtain items (roses, talismans single items etc) what do you think?

[runic dragon]

Thanks for your reply! The "obtain items" quest would be cool, but I don't need talismans, so do others. New quests with emoji's would be cool!

[brazen parrot]

About Rose trading/scams, there's already a post in #dev-vote suggesting a "trade market", so devs already know that suggestion and there's no need to post it in #feedback-devs. You can support this idea voting 6️⃣ here ⬇️
#dev-vote message

[brazen parrot]

The "chat room" to talk with other players is already suggested and posted in #feedback-devs, you can upvote it here ⬇️
#feedback-devs message

[runic dragon]

Alrighty, thank uuu! @brazen parrot

[brazen parrot]

Last but not least, using different typos to bypass the censor is a known problem and it's complicated to solve. Thanks for your suggestion anyway! 😄

[brazen parrot]

Well, other players maybe want talismans, also add emojis is a great idea I didn't think. I will post it in #feedback-devs then. Thanks for your suggestion!

[runic dragon]

:D, thank uuu!

[brazen parrot]

Hello! I will explain you why the seer app is a good bg replacement:

Bodyguard has two lives, so you protect a player once and then you die in the second attack

Seer app will become into the new seer/aura/ss when they die making a new informer without rev that seer

So you are sacrificing protection for more information. I think it's fair.

About the stubborn werewolf icon, devs will implement it soon. There's the message from Philipp
#feedback-readonly message

Thanks for your feedback! 😄

[brazen parrot]

Hello! You can obtain 30 cards per month not 5 cards per day I don't understand your feedback completely, can you explain it a little bit more please?

[limpid fractal]

A mod told me 5 card per day and 30 cards by months

[shut pecan]

would it be complicated if it said “junior ww specifically?” or bind werewolf? . not sure what other case there is

[brazen parrot]

Oh my bad, true. Then, what's your suggestion?

[limpid fractal]

I told it but when you get ur first card of day

It tells you when you got it

Or just put a timer

Idk how to say

[brazen parrot]

Well, avenger can tag a player and the killed player by the avenger can't be used to realize an autopsy, but can this maybe be encompassed in "killed by the village"?

I can post both ideas: "killed publicity" and "by dead wishes" if you want

[shut pecan]

what about “a player that is already dead”

[brazen parrot]

For example, when you open a "blue" lootbox will appear a text saying "You can still get x cards today!" Are you agree?

[limpid fractal]

Yes and also

Tell us when you can get more cards tomorrow

Like at which hour

Can you start getting cards

@brazen parrot

[shut pecan]

dead or revealed

[brazen parrot]

All players you perform the autopsy are already dead aren't they?

dead or revealed

You can perform an autopsy to a dead player who was revealed by pacifist or vigilante for example

[brazen parrot]

And where should this message be?
Maybe should it be in the text that explains what are the role cards?

[shut pecan]

I mean, that their killer was “dead or revealed”

[brazen parrot]

Hmmm, it might works, I will post it in #feedback-devs and let the community vote, thanks for your time!

[severe sparrow]

Wolvesville is a bit slow today

[brazen parrot]

Hello! Ww fan being part of the ww team (win always with werewolves) is an option that devs already know, you can see the post from Philipp in #questions here
#questions message

About be able ww fan can listen alpha werewolf conversations, would be pretty OP, alpha werewolf can make codes with ww fan "ww fan say xxxxx to know who are you" or know all werewolves "ww fan 2,8,15,16 are werewolves" So it isn't a good idea in my opinion

Thanks for your suggestions anyways! 😄

[shut pecan]

thank u c:

[brazen parrot]

I think the name Pathologist is meaning to find viruses, bacteries or any body issue than analyze dead bodies. What about rename it to forensic?

Oh, my bad, seems like you was answering to a helper right?

[brazen parrot]

Hello! Evil det isn't an advanced replacement for serial killer because evil detective can make 10 kills in 5 nights, and cannibal/sk only 5 per 5 nights

So the final result is you are sacrificing hide the role of your victim as corruptor to make more kills. I think it's a good balance.

[brazen parrot]

Hello! If you think mortician is pretty unbalanced, you can suggest nerf ideas here! If you have any nerf suggestion, I'm all ears 😄

Hey hey! Quick game is the game mode where new players start the game, so it's normal you find unexperienced players who don't know how to play. If you want play with more experienced players, try to play advanced game or ranked.

Thanks for your support! 😄

[brazen parrot]

Hey hey! I like the idea, I will post it in #feedback-devs. Thanks for your suggestion!

Hi! For feedback about censored words, you can Dm @meager gyro. Thanks for your suggestion!

[brazen parrot]

Hello! That's a known bug and devs will fix it as soon as possible. Thanks for your support!

[brazen parrot]

Hello! Do you mean a quick game mode for persians players or add the persian language into the game?

[brazen parrot]

Hi! I see the reason, but that's not a wolvesville problem right? The number of accounts will appear depends about how many accounts you have logged in in your device

[brazen parrot]

Hello! As WerewolfOfNether said, mortician is a detective replacement, so make only can perform the autopsy once sounds like a very huge nerf and isn't viable. So I won't post it. If you have more nerf suggestions you can say them here. Thanks for your feedback! 😄

[red pawn]

I don't very like this role because it's like sheriff but doesn't need to guess who dies.

[brazen parrot]

Hello! I see the same problem than others players that already commented, if the whole row but the killer is dead, that player would be the only suspect.

About the amount of suspects is equal to the amount of players killed seems like a delayed nerf, because during the first nights mortician can just perform the autopsy on a player killed by sk and find them quickly. So it's more like a indirect buff from werewolves but it doesn't changes for the serial killer.

I think it's better find another nerf for mortician. Thanks for your feedback anyway!

[brazen parrot]

Hello! Mortician icon being blurry is a known bug and devs will fix it as soon as possible. Thanks for your support!

[red pawn]

But what if the mortician will be able to use his ability three time per a game?

[vital skiff]

Coroners (the ones who inspect dead bodies for the police to find the cause of death and other evidence) are generally always Pathologists too. Forensic is more a field of study or an adjective describing something else like a forensic scientist, the word alone isn't really a job although.

[teal schooner]

Virologist is what you're looking for, Ale

[teal schooner]

This would be like saying Seer can only check once per game
A better and simpler alternative is to make Mortician the advanced role of Seer instead, while Analyst the advanced role of Detective

[red pawn]

No, seer needs to guess who is bad, mortician doesn't.

[vital skiff]

Mortician sometimes does, since it is given two options for who may have killed. So does need a nerf, but also inaccurate to say Mortician doesn't need to guess/figure out who's bad-

[teal schooner]

Mortician gets two info, seer doesn't need to guess who's bad... They just check and that's it, good or evil done.

[red pawn]

Seer does, because he checks one out of all alive players. Do you think the seer doesn't want to find out who is bad?

Mortician gets only 2 suspects.

[dim sierra]

The censoring needs to go. Half the time I'm just writing normally and what I'm saying is censored. Now I know this is a kid friendly game and it should be switched on as default, but I'm asking for an option in settings to turn it off. I've seen this in lots of other similar games and it works wonderfully. I'd genuinely be so impressed if you added this.

[teal schooner]

Yeah, and..? Seer does check, and it's literally just good or bad, that's it, atop that they learn their role, which itself is pretty powerful. I never said anything about that 👀

And yeah, it does want to find evil roles but it doesn't really... Need to guess?

[quaint bramble]

the problem with that.. people will think its ok to say those words, cause theyre not censored to them
but a lot of things really should remain punishable

pretty sure you are exaggerating anyway 'writing normally' gets censored, it doesnt work like that 🤔

[teal schooner]

A few words are indeed oddly censored. Like successful

[quaint bramble]

thats one that could be uncensored easily
i guess it is currently filtered because of the succ paert

[dim sierra]

Im actually shaking my head at the response i just got from you. If they're okay with it only they can see it. People have already made their minds up on whether its okay to swear or not and if you think people aren't swearing anyway or finding ways round the censoring, you're sordidly mistaken. The fact is that the censoring system doesn't work, censors far more than it should, censors things in a way that you cant even understand each other at points and when you're in a time limit game, its not a helpful feature. The best part is, its not even censoring the swear words that people use intentionally because they know how to get round it. Telling grown adults that "people will think its ok to say those words" by giving us a non censored version is just plain insulting. You can even put an age limit on it. I cant believe how quickly that was shut down when your censoring system is such a mess as it is. But obviously I'm overexaggerating. Just wow.

[quaint bramble]

if normal words get censored then report them here so they can be fixed.. thats what im saying

Plus im not a staff member so dont get too upset that my reply isnt very user-friendly to you

[cyan barn]

Alpha's ability shouldn't appear as a bullet

[quaint bramble]

they are already changing it, it was just a placeholder

[twin tangle]

Shouldn’t have put werewolf fan in quick game instead of cursed villager

[dim sierra]

If you're not staff, why are you responding to my feedback as if you are... 😂

[quaint bramble]

i was never pretending to be a staff member, everyone is free to chip in here.
End of discussion for now as far as I'm concerned, Im not really willing to go all out on explaining this for you, we will probably not reach an agreement.
A staff member will handle your message later.

[timber meteor]

I personally think the "auto ww win" needs updated for some of the village roles.

In instances where bh and ww are left, if the bh still has their trap on, and the ww attacks it, they died. And if the ww decides not to attack, then both players will continue to tie the vote and it ties the game. (so technically the wws cant win in this case period)

The same goes with roles like witch. If witch still has their death potion left, and theres only one ww left, then witch can kill the wws, and village wins.

The list goes on with a few different roles this could apply to. Bh with active trap, witch with potion, jailer with bullet, etc

[ripe cradle]

Solo killers buff suggestion.

This is a small buff idea for all solo killers(bandit and accomplice excluded),add a button by which solo killers can have there vote count as 2,this can only be done once per game.Solo killers generally have almost impossible chance to win.so this might add a chance for solo killers to survive certain endgame situations.Also this ability can only be activated when 8 or less players are left.

[timber meteor]

well words like "sucks" gets censored and i get why that can be annoying. Like oh jailer used their bullet already? dang that sucks.

in cases like that, i dont think it should be censored, but thats my opinion. the censorship cold be a bit better in some cases

I wouldn't really considering words like "sucks" to be a word worthy of being censored tbh (obviously keep the stuff that should be)

[ancient carbon]

Why couldnt witch/bh/jailer kill that werewolf earlier, its their fault if they didnt have enough time

[ancient carbon]

Jailer using bullet isnt that bad tho fyi

[violet storm]

Some buff and nerf ideas:
Buffs:
Zombie: so i always said that i hated zombie cause it always win and i was very happy for it big nerf but i think that if a zombie try to bite a werewolf he die it's..... anyway i suggest that if a zombie try to bit a werewolf, it will die 1 night earlier
Priest: so it's not really a surprise that priest is pretty bad , so i suggest that for every werewolf who die , whatever the way (exept quitting the village) the priest get a new bottle of water and of course at the beggining of the day, he will have a bottle like always
Witch: The witch in the original werewolf game is pretty strong, but not in WOV so i suggest two ideas
-she can protect herself
-she can make a new elixir every 3 night and a poison every 4 nights BUT she can have only one potion per type so she can't "stack"
Nerfs:
Tough guy: so tough guy is pretty balanced now but the problem is that he is too strong against the rk, so i suggest many ways to nerf him
-Make tough guy automattcly die if an rk try to kill him (exept accomplice)
-Tough will have too choose to protect himself (that basiclly mean protect anyone) or to protect someone but if he protect someone and he get attaked, then he die at the end of the night
-Removing him 😃👌🏻 (jk)
Bandit:
Ngl, he is the strongest rk in this game, so i suggest that if an accomplice die in the day (so no at night) he will have to wait a night to convert someone
And beetween sorry for my bad english and let me guess what you think :D

[ancient carbon]

Priest and Witch buff literally puts them rsv

[violet storm]

I just edited about the witch

[ancient carbon]

Still, night 3 she gets a new potion

And night 4 she can kill again

Canni game and its op

[timber meteor]

Well in cases we're a lot of the village has died, and bh trap hasn't gone off, its not really up to the bh when the wws attack them. I've specifically referencing a game I had earlier where the arso killed off everyone but me (the bh) and another wolf. My trap was still on. So in that case, we should be able to choose to kill off the arso, and then not have the wolves autowin, because they technically dont.

[violet storm]

She can use her killing potion night 2 so she will get a new one night 6

And also i didn't said she will get those 2 buffs, only one of them

[ancient carbon]

Its their win condition, village would win too many times if they changed it

[timber meteor]

Meaning that if the last wolf chose to attack me, then die. if they choose not to, we continue to tie the vote then it ties the game

[ancient carbon]

Also, witch is not bodyguard, so thats why she cant protect herself

[timber meteor]

Yeah but it doesnt do that for ANY of the other roles. Rk doesnt auto win when theres only one villager/ww left

[violet storm]

I'm talking about using her protection potion on herself 💀💀💀

[ancient carbon]

Imagine some Guy and a wolf in a village. Would the wolf would be scared to kill them? Certainly not

[violet storm]

Like the original werewolf game

[ancient carbon]

Yes i understood. It would work as bodyguard if they can protect themselves

Nerfed bodyguard*

[timber meteor]

This isn't real life lol its a game. None of the other roles auto win, and wws shouldnt either. If theres only one rk, and one ww left, obviously the rk wins no matter what, but it doesnt auto win the game for the rk.

[violet storm]

Bodyguard can protect himself and someone

But not the witch...

[ancient carbon]

But you are asking for it to happen right?

Tbh just wait a while and a staff member will answer to both of you accordingly

[violet storm]

I mean that bodyguard can protect someone and another one at the same time but witch can protect only one player per night

[ancient carbon]

Yes I do know that

[timber meteor]

The theory behind the auto win (and feel free to correct me if im wrong) is if the losing side has NO way of winning. Meaning if its one ww and the loudmouth (for example), the LM cant do anything to try to win last second.

But if its a role that has the ability to do something (ie the bh with an active trap) then it shouldn't autowin as its impossible for the wws to win ( as it would either end in a village win or a tie)

WW wins aren't that hard to get (yes its hard(er) than village wins) but there are definately other roles that are harder to win, and they don't get any special things like autowin. (ie 1 ww and 1 rk, rk should auto win as its impossible for wws to kill most rk roles)

So it brings me back to my point, yes it should auto win if the opposing team has NO way of winning. But if the wws/rk team loses not matter what (ie either bh takes them out or some other way) then it shouldnt auto win

[meager gyro]

Hi there, feel free to leave a dm with specific words that are missing/ should be removed and we'll look into it ✌️

[short agate]

Shouldn’t have put werewolf fan in quick game instead of cursed villager, you should put back the cursed vill.
The werewolf fan is unplayable, and not fun at all.

[meager gyro]

That pretty much was intended to test it more

[prisma crown]

very nice i am unluckily not part of the beta. but still thanks

thank you for reading mine

[arctic quail]

✦ You welcome!

[supple venture]

Can the spectate button be moved or have a confirmation? It is way to close to the voting for starting game button, and I've accidentally clicked that many times ^_^

[burnt bluff]

There's no way to report spectator that leaves afaik,

Making it possible for them to able to run away from reports regarding hate speech / harassment
As seeing how hate speech isn't worth opening ticket much..

And sometimes it doesn't even show who was the spectator that said stuff, making it unable to report that player with ticket even
( Cuz not able to tell who said what )

So fix it

As give some way to report left spectators or close the spectator function that might be abused later

[dull elm]

The village has more players, better roles, yall had your chance.

Everyone wants to buff the village, yet they despise playing as a werewolf.

[pulsar coral]

İt is wrong translate

(Geri eşya)= false
(Arka plan)=true

Language=Turkish

[timber meteor]

I don't mind playing as a ww. I have plenty of ww wins. Its not about chance. day two half the village fled. and the arso took out the rest of the wolves/village remaining.

Not about "you had your chance" village quite literally didn't. Nor did I ever say to buff the village. All I'm saying is that if auto win is going to be a thing, then it NEEDS to be "village cant win period". There are plenty of instances where had autowin not been a thing, then wolves couldnt have won.

wolves shouldnt just win cause "its a harder role". and as i said before, NONE of the other roles autowin.

There are plenty of instances where the wolves are autowinning when they technically don't.

Like bh having an active trap. wws will either attack, and die (village win) or choose not to attack and continue to tie the vote (and after two/three days it ties).

Or jailer hasnt used bullet (can kill wws at night) or jail can keep jailing and tieing the vote until it ties the game.

Witch hasn't used potion, and can kill before they die (village win)

Marksman has wolf mark, votes off the rk, and kills the last ww before the day begins.

The list goes on of instances where the wolves don't technically win, but only recieve the win due to the auto-win.

I just don't think the wws should be given the "pity win" because its a "harder role with less members". Especially since the rk is harder to win, rv is also difficult (as if theres a hh in game, most people just assume hh now) and while villagers fleeing is still a huge issue. (yes theres hero in sandbox, but people have worked around that now by waiting till after day two to flee)

(condensed so there isnt spam)

[dull elm]

Sounds like an issue with the players, not the game.

[dull elm]

Removing win conditions is a buff.

[timber meteor]

It is an issues with the game if you read the rest of my message. Why are we giving wws a pity win when they technically don't win at all?

Rk is one of the hardest roles to win, but they don't get an autowin. If its jailer and the sk (for example) the jailer keeps jailing the sk, and the game ends in a tie

[dull elm]

They fulfilled the win condition. Its not about pity, it how the game works.

[timber meteor]

it is pity. none of the other roles work like that

[dull elm]

Because of win condition. Their goal is to be the last one standing.

[timber meteor]

but why is it not like with the wws then?

If youre going to make the goal of "last one standing" then it needs to be across the board.

The goal of the wolves is to beat the village and rk. But if the village can still win (ie the example above) then technically they didnt fulfil that.

[dull elm]

Killers are generally stronger, and wolves cannot target them.
An the village is supposed to eliminate non villagers before the player count is equal.

Its all about win conditions.

[timber meteor]

They need changed. Its not exactly fair to the rks, that wolves auto win.

Going back to the jailer example, if the jailer jails the sk, and the tie the vote, then sk loses.

The same should be with the wolves then.

It makes it extremely difficult for the rks to win, when wolves get a free autowin, even if they lost

I guess my point is, for the same cycle (ie jailer jailing, vote being tie, and it happening again) why do the wolves deserve the auto win, and the sk doesnt? As sk is about 10x harder to win

[rigid siren]

Just putting this out there, there's only 2 roles a solo/aww can claim

[timber meteor]

eh depends on what mode your playing. if youre playing sanbox, it opens up to more roles due to rrvs

[rigid siren]

No

Im talking about ranked

[timber meteor]

Im not talking about ranked games lol im talking about sandbox/regular

mainly sandbox

[rigid siren]

the only 2 roles you can claim are fool/hh and bh

As solo killer or aww

[timber meteor]

^well and med if med afk lol (if theres med in ranked. i think there is but i havent played ranked in a while)

[rigid siren]

Gunner will shoot you, jailer will shoot you, med will tell revived number

[timber meteor]

Not to mention, ranked doesn't really have a super bad issues with fleeing players like sandbox does

[rigid siren]

Yea

[timber meteor]

People have learned to work around hero to ruin the game (waiting till day two to flee so someone cant hero in)

I've quite literally had someone be like "im gonna flee after day two. im the med and dont feel like playing anymore or having a hero"

[rigid siren]

There's still very little room for solos to claim that's what im saying

In any mode

[timber meteor]

True, but if they do make it to a 1v1, they dont auto win like the wolves do

[rigid siren]

Thats not an issue tbf

1v1 village never wins

[timber meteor]

There are certain circumstances where village could win had autowin not been a thing

[rigid siren]

Yea that's not what im saying tho

Im saying if you're sk wth do you claim

Fool or bh and then hope they don't check?

[timber meteor]

Im not talking about beginning game problems. I'm talking about cases where the rk does make it to the end

If youre found out, youre found out

[rigid siren]

Yea

But this issue also makes aww useless

[timber meteor]

I don't really play ranked so thats never been an issue for me. I'm just specifically talking about games where rrvs are a thing (so sandbox)

[rigid siren]

There's 3 rrvs in ranked

[timber meteor]

then theres more than just fool/hh and bh to claim. witch, marksman are also unk roles that are under rrvs if im remembering right

[rigid siren]

Witch will kill you, mm I think is good but would kill you anyway...

Or they'll just ask to prove

Again, evil unk needs village to throw to win

[timber meteor]

Well with mm you could argue that you dont wanna die due to randoming, and same goes with witch. if you random kill as witch you can get reported and banned

I've won some games claiming witch, and that i dont want to be banned for random killing

[rigid siren]

That doesn't really work in ranked

Depends on opponent players skill

[timber meteor]

True, but again, I don't really play ranked so I'm not really sure if its a huge issue in there

[quaint bramble]

this channel is for feedback, not for #strategy-discussion 👀

[rigid siren]

Not talking strategy

[timber meteor]

^

what he said, discussing my suggestion

[rigid siren]

An easy fix would be more unk roles

[timber meteor]

True. I think there should be more unk roles to begin with tbh

[rigid siren]

Bg could be unk, avenger could be unk...

[timber meteor]

Not to mention instead of making some of the new roles good, you could make them unk instead

[rigid siren]

New roles take time to enter ranked usually

[timber meteor]

Yeah, they have to go through sandbox first

but it would also help in sandbox as well

[rigid siren]

Making a few existing roles unk would be an immediate fix

[timber meteor]

^ true

[quaint bramble]

roles are only unk when it makes sense that they are, usually only when they have killing power or something similar
cant just slap unk aura on roles randomly
BG should def not be unk.
And for avenger it will kinda defeat the point too imo

[rigid siren]

True

Still...

[quaint bramble]

this isnt true btw... jailer vs solo killer is the one exception where the solo autowins
exactly to avoid this scenario.

[timber meteor]

Well, as they were saying earlier, rk/aww is really hard to win as there are limited roles to claim. Can't claim bg as the rk when thers an aura ig. Just suggesting maybe a few of the different roles

[timber meteor]

But it doesn't autowin? I dont think I've ever seen a rk autowin

[rigid siren]

Happened to me once as jailer and I thought it was a bug

[timber meteor]

and if its supposed to maybe its a bug then

[quaint bramble]

it does. only against jailer.

[timber meteor]

I lost as the sk to jailer. I thought it didnt auto win and the game tied. guess i should have reported it

[quaint bramble]

you arent limited in your claim space, by your role's aura... thats just a weak mentality 🤨

[rigid siren]

You kinda are

[timber meteor]

Well you have to consider not everyone is pro at the game. New players are losing/fleeing cause they feel like they never win

[quaint bramble]

you can still claim doc, aura, ss, rl etc. If they check you back, you might play fool etc.
just ask around for some strat advice for solo roles.

[quaint bramble]

in short; if they feel like they dont understand how to win as such roles.. ask advice.

take some initiative to learn from those pro's

[timber meteor]

Not to mention I didn't evem know the discord existed till i was almost level 50 in the game lol and you cant exactly ask for advice in game as you expose yourself lol

[quaint bramble]

or try new things yourself. claiming bh is a start, but its not the single way to do it.

[timber meteor]

Most times when i talk about the discord in the game, 90% of people are like "this app has a discord????"

[rigid siren]

If you still wanted to play it safe the only role you can claim is bh or hh

[quaint bramble]

you also can ask for advice in the mentor chat, to your clan members.. its not just discord

or search for yt videos etc

[timber meteor]

Most clans dont accept below a certain level, and i didnt think you could ask for advice in mentor chat. didnt know that lol

also, a new thing i've seen lately is fool claiming fool right at the beginning so they can "help village" or something

[quaint bramble]

what im seeing here boils down to 'i dont understand the game, so make it easier'...

[timber meteor]

(at least in sandbox this has become a bit of an issue ive seen as of late)

[kind mesa]

Hey there

What seems to be the problem here?

[rigid siren]

Yo

Nothing much just talking about unk roles

[timber meteor]

I understand the game fine? Its a bit rude to assume otherwise. all we were suggesting is adding one or two more unk roles

[rigid siren]

Seems to be getting kinda heated tho 😅

[kind mesa]

Yeah, that’s why I joined this convo, but I have to get into the topic first

[quaint bramble]

btw tldr, its not a pity win, you are just missing the point.
the wws dont join an organized voting anymore, they just technically kill off the outnumbered villagers at broad daylight

yes, you were too late not using your vill resources.. most likely your team still hadnt found out exactly who the last wws were. the win condition of their team is know to you from the start, so you should see it coming and adapt and avoid.

its 10 vs 4. it isnt pityful at all, they defeated their odds fairly

[timber meteor]

but how is it my fault that people are working around the hero now to flee?

[quaint bramble]

thats something completely different........

that isnt relevant to the ww win con at all.

it might be loopholing and reportable i havent rlly seen you discuss this part, it mght be further up thanw what i scrolled

[timber meteor]

It was. Village flees are more likely than wolves lately. So what was a 10v4 has become a 7v4 or lower

[quaint bramble]

thats still a completely seperate problem with seperate causes
the way to fix that isnt gonna be 'lets just change up the ww win condition'

[timber meteor]

and again with the "you should". Not everyone is super good a the roles. Sandbox is getting more and more people who either have no clue whats going on, don't know how to play their role, or just flee cause they didnt get a seer role. its become a mjor problem lately

[dull elm]

That still has nothing to do with the wolf's win condition.

[quaint bramble]

fleeing isnt a result of being bad at the game, its people being unwilling to play the way its intended.
its a mentality problem.

[timber meteor]

But anyways, that wasnt really my point. my point was that there are several cases were again, wws auto win, when other roles dont

[quaint bramble]

the win con is different, and that honeslty is already covered by their role descriptions.

[timber meteor]

like avenger vs ww. wws auto win, even tho they wouldnt. (meaning they either attack the avg, and it tie, ot the vote ties)

but when it comes to the rk, the random killer doesnt auto win. they either attack the avg and die, or tie the vote.

[dull elm]

Because win condition.

[rigid siren]

How did we even get to this

[timber meteor]

All im saying is why should the two be different when the rk is much harder to win?

[quaint bramble]

the teams and setups are based around that concept from the start, changing it suddenly unbalances everything

[kind mesa]

Sorry for interrupting.
They both have totally different win conditions. As a sk for example you have to be the last player alive, that isn’t the case as Werewolf.

Could you all please drop this conversation now as it’s going into nowhere?

[rigid siren]

Fax

🅿️

[timber meteor]

my point what that its just makes it harder for new players to even have a chance. i came here to make a suggestion, not be insulted by being told "you clearly dont know the game and clearly want an easy win" which was incredibly rude

[quaint bramble]

feedback should be given based on fully understand the base mechanics of the game, imo
if you dont quite get it, then try getting yourself informed first, somewhere else, plenty of people are willing to attempt to explain it. @timber meteor

[timber meteor]

^ my point exactly

1.) this person continues to minimod in this channel, and two instead of being rude, they could politely inform.

but im done here.

[quaint bramble]

win con is a base mechanic, not a strategy, like 'guns can shoot'
im not calling you a bad player when i said my last part. and i tried to explain it + offer to do so somewhere else.

[kind mesa]

Feedback is always welcomed, if you give feedback here you should be able to argument and discuss it here.
Of course you can reach out a mini mod+ anytime you feel attacked and we can take action if needed

Stop jumping in please

[stone copper]

Wolvesville is unplayable on Galaxy A52s because the Screen is always moving, so that u cant see the chat...

Idk where do i have to write it, like here or in #bugs-readonly ?

[vital skiff]

Seems like a bug so #bugs-readonly

[stone copper]

okay

[floral heath]

just want to add to this one, make it only avaliable after a certain time, like if there are 8 players remaining (how skip discussion works) because this may give them unnecessary earlygame power as well

[floral heath]

just wanted to say that jailer and sk as last two does end as autowin 👀

but yeah, im also on the side that you basically had your chances to use your abilities yet you waited too long and so ww won as a result of not taking any actions to increase the chance to use your ability earlier

[severe sparrow]

They said I can't check day 1 as mortician?
I examine 10 as soon as he died LOL

[solemn mulch]

There's a lot of cool and fun ideias for roles in the discord and you guys choose a cursed 2.0? (Werewolf Fan)
This game is getting boring...

[vital skiff]

I mean, that's been requested a ton so yeah- plus they have been taking ideas from the discord as well.

[solemn mulch]

Well, this isn't a good role tbh

[vital skiff]

You have any ideas to change it? Since they can't really do anything with the suggestion of 'role bad'

[quaint bramble]

curswd was annoying to play because your alliance isnt clear, wolf fan is a better cursed because it gives more freedom to play strategically.

[teal schooner]

I don't think that should be possible

[vital skiff]

Have the bouquet count towards the giving roses to players challenge, it's giving them roses still.

[cyan barn]

Maybe... change the name of analyst so that it's a bit more...
short hand friendly...

[nocturne grail]

Al or ana seems like fine short term names

[severe sparrow]

@teal schooner so what do you think happened?
Is that some kind of bug?

[teal schooner]

Probably

[cyan barn]

Not really when "al" are common letter adjacencies, and ana is similar to aura

TBH

Also

[compact python]

i think ana is ok, we already have ones like bg / bh / tg / etc just to name a few
dont think its too close to aura tbh

[vital skiff]

Let's not forget what the wolf acronyms are... ws ws and sw-

[teal schooner]

Ws?

[vital skiff]

Wolf Shaman and Wolf Seer- not to mention GL GR GG GW

[teal schooner]

ah

xd

[mortal osprey]

I always do wws for wolf seer

[teal schooner]

And shaman is just called shaman usually

[mortal osprey]

Not really relevant, but ¯_(ツ)_/¯

My thing

[vital skiff]

Either way, there's the ones that start with g at least- ana and aura are more different than those so I think it's fine

[teal schooner]

Alyst

[cyan barn]

Well the ones that are 2 letters 2-worded, or at least 1 word comprised of two words

Let's not forget what the wolf acronyms are... ws ws and sw-

actually we say them as wseer wshaman, plus the aformentioned point i made @vital skiff

[teal schooner]

Acronyms vary from person to person-

[vital skiff]

Yeah usually folks just say wolf seer or shaman- that one was more a silly one, the g one was more serious tho since those are actually used more often

[cyan barn]

well true but the name it self isn't very "village/medieval"

[cyan barn]

Gg/gl/gr/gww are all multi-worded

btw

[teal schooner]

Analyst is... It's not modern either

[mortal osprey]

Yeah like, gl, gg, tg, bg

[vital skiff]

So's aura seer, so either way their suggestion falls apart with that then?

Since Aura Seer is multiworded?

[mortal osprey]

Could always change it to smart guy, lol.

[cyan barn]

No, that's jist 'cause "AS" is a super common letter composition, and "5 is as" doesn't make sense

[compact python]

multi-worded or not, i dont just see why the whole role needs to be renamed? people will find someway to shorten it one way or another that can be used widely by players

[cyan barn]

In comparoson to "5bis aura"

[vital skiff]

Analyst is already super short tbh and ana I feel's also fine tbh.

[cyan barn]

@compact python

[compact python]

^

[cyan barn]

it kinda is but that's besides the point, as it's still not village/medieval themed

[vital skiff]

Yeah the word originates from 1650's France-

Analyste

[cyan barn]

the word is old but that doesn't mean that it's themed from that time

😅

[vital skiff]

How's the act of looking at things and examining them closely not themed-

Anyone from any era can look at things closely, the word itself for that definition is old, so don't really get the gripe-

[cyan barn]

it's that it's not specifically themed

😅

[vital skiff]

Not to mention don't think you've suggested alternatives that you think would work better, staff wouldn't be able to do anything just with the suggestion of 'change name'-

[vital skiff]

What does that even mean?

[cyan barn]

Brb

[torn iris]

Ritualist should be able to rev anyone including evil and solo roles. But if evil, solo roles are already revealed ritualist should not be able to use spell on them. It would make the game more fun and interesting and should discourage ritualist to cast spell randomly night 1

[sullen zealot]

I read this as "You my break heart"

It's supposed to be "You break my heart"

Just a minor thing, no big deal, I just read a full line before reading the next line lol

[wanton valve]

Mar is March, not Mardi

[limpid fractal]

In cards
And no

[vague pasture]

WHAT 😱

[wanton valve]

lol

[burnt bluff]

-> Give star icon next to that preview button for all quests

What it'll do?

• It'll add that quest as being liked by clan members,
  Making leaders easy to access and see which members are interested in that quest.

Side notes :

• can make able to favorite out of all quests list also, currently I suggested for current quests.

• Favourites of clan member will be gone after that players leaves clan to avoid unnecessary stuff to look for leaders.

[floral heath]

Suggestion: Rerolling Daily Challenges

Sometimes we get challenges that are just very hard to complete and they can even appear as the “easy”challenges. To make daily challenges better, how about we implement a swap feature like with Clan Quests.

Every day, every player gets to change 1 daily challenge to another one for free, and every subsequent change after that on the same day costs 10 gems. When the next day comes, it resets so you get another free one, then 10 gems for the next and so forth

[spring egret]

Be able to see what quest is new to the clan ( Not done by the clan/Not seen by the clan)

This will help large clans recognize new quests better.

[fickle garnet]

Be able to see if you already have the skin just like the montly offers

[red pawn]

Please make the vigil available in custom.

[heavy gazelle]

the vigilante is currently in all sandbox setups

[red pawn]

I meant custom.

[cinder atlas]

Ideea: Be able to remove the censorship from the settings when somebody is swearing

Better?

[ancient carbon]

#bugs-readonly then

[quaint bramble]

Nah translate mistakes go here. But it's indeed march not the days

[mossy cipher]

make wolf fan's aura evil. it literally says in the description "villagers see you as one of theirs"

[willow zinc]

Hi, I feel like the little Icons of junior werewolf and regular werewolf are too similar now unless you look really closely. The grey and blue of the jrww nearly got the same tone/brightness so it can be hard to tell the difference. If the jrww would get a fur color that is a little lighter then all the ww could be differentiated on the first look.

[floral heath]

possibly an alternate buff to make ww fan still appealing to get, while you are in ww fan form (so not turned yet), you are able to survive one lynch/attack (and if possible, you will turn into a ww and lose your powers)

as compensation for appearing evil as ww fan, since sorcerer had its special mechanic of being an unwaterable evil aura removed from it so it would make sense to add it to this cursed advancement instead

[spring egret]

Actually "theirs" in the description means the villager(seers) check the werewolf fan as a good werewolf fan since not turned yet.

I think

[quaint bramble]

Agreed, if it refers to the wolves it should be 'one of them' ? Or to avoid confusion just say 'village sees you as good aura' etc, something that removes the doubt.

[cinder atlas]

Add a timer until the quests will be refreshed

[lunar hound]

I think, it would be nice if the role descriptions also include the aura info. Especially on new/uncommon roles I have to check the aura seer description to know the role's aura.

[runic dragon]

?hat

[lunar hound]

I think, it would be nice if e.g. beast hunter had

Team: Village
Aura: unknown

in it's description.
If I want to know if a role is seen as unknown or good, I have to check the aura seer's description where the unknown roles are listed.

[slim sedge]

Hi everybody

[cyan barn]

I second this...
I assume it's roughly midnight somewhere around 0 GMT, but it's not very apparent to those of us in far away time zones

[dapper oriole]

Hello, I'm not able to make a purchase on wolvesville. I want to make a purchase of 7300 or 15000 gems. I'm using Google Play payment method.

[cyan barn]

On that note-

Roles should state when they're a non-good aura, except for ww team roles, which should specify when they don't show as evil

[cyan barn]

#bugs-readonly i think

[runic dragon]

New game mode:
Name: Invasions (or what ever you want)
Role: sect leader. Aura. Detective. Gunner. Gunner. Jailer. Bg. Bg. Doc. Rsv. Rrv. Rrv. Fool. Headhunter. Rv. Rv
Rv = random voter
Special ability: in night one. Sect can convert 5 person. And its ability will normal again

[cinder atlas]

Put ALL ROLES (Including ,ect) here.

[lofty rampart]

Could be an awesome idea the choice to keep the white background in the preview of our skin then the background we put in game.
This change make the skin disorganized and uglier. Made us choose how we want to see them in our profile

[nova widget]

Mar stands for March not Mardi

[spring egret]

Turning to day or night theme should always be available in settings instead of it being a shop offer for gems.

[runic dragon]

Nerf mortician. It's to op to find sk

Like if it's checking player that killed by rk. They'll find 3/4 suspect

It's hard to win as rk if it's not dead

At d1

Some predraw role is not fit in new role like sk icon

[limpid fractal]

Message should in "Cards"
And just a little timer next to the "?"

Post in #feedback-devs pls 👌

[formal river]

can someone explain why the word “successfully” is banned?🤣

[limpid fractal]

It has succ in it

💀

[heavy gazelle]

also next time #questions 🙂

[limpid fractal]

Yea ^^^

[formal river]

I think this ban has negative effects on banning bad words and this is my feedback

[spring egret]

👀

[west wind]

A revealed fool should be allowed to flee with no repercussions

[vital skiff]

Fool isn't special. They should be part of the same rules as everyone else, and a Fool could vote for others and cause a completely different win than if it had left. All fleeing is bad.

Plus they could still potentially get lynched, it's just far more difficult.

[west wind]

Well, they could choose to stay, I'm just saying there shouldn't be any repercussions for leaving, since winning as fool becomes almost impossible when revealed.

[vital skiff]

And that sucks, but they should still have to deal with it. Fool isn't special and has to follow the same rules as everyone else, including needing to stick around if they're basically doomed to lose. That's just part of the game, losing.

[next nymph]

Nah its getting anoying its been almost a year and the rotate screan bug on samsung is STILL THERE. i get you guys add new roles and news features etc but fix this bug first ???????

[floral heath]

if you never suicide for other things except these moment like once in a while you get revealed as a fool to everyone without a way to cover up like being revealed as a vigi then there wont be any reprecussions if you dip out every so often, you might have suicided a lot for other not allowed stuff like if u didnt get the role u wanted and thats where you’ll just have to keep playing. but you probs wont get banned for suiciding as a fool as long as it was clear that everybody knew about it

[trail warren]

Role cards suggestion:
Implement a low chance to get rare/epic/legendary cards from shop, but it should be exponentially lower chances as you can upgrade

[floral heath]

Alternatively, implement a gacha^ 😂

[open zinc]

The new background on profile should be optional

[idle coral]

add a feature in the Invite Friends GUI that show who is playing in a middle of a game and who is online but not playing (something looks like this maybe?)

[void patrol]

I think that the role of priest needs a rework since it was useless when the marksman arrived. I suggest that the priest, if he does not hit a werewolf, it is not revealed to whom he threw it to the public and that person the next night cannot die in the night next (the priest would not commit suicide and this would only be done once)

[tulip jewel]

[vital skiff]

I mean, it's fine as a weaker killing role imo. Marksman has to take time to shoot and isn't proven good on shooting, Priest can attack instantly and is proven good. It's not 'useless', it can still kill and prove itself. Is Aura Seer useless because Seer can gain better information? No, same as this.

[void patrol]

Ah its true

[tulip badger]

Talisman are a scam! If my Priest talisman is leveled up to give me a 55% chance to land it then I should be landing it at least every other game! Instead I’ve landed the role right next to it for at least 10 games in a row!

[vital skiff]

I mean, that's just how random works. Sometimes you get it first try, sometimes you're really unlucky.

[tulip badger]

I feel like they worked better before I leveled them up and it shouldn’t be that random if it says 55% chance.

[vital skiff]

Random just works that way. Sometimes it randomly lands you it in the first few tries, sometimes random really doesn't like you and you don't get it 100 times. That's... literally how random works.

[tulip badger]

And I’m paying for it to be 55 % chance

[void patrol]

face slap

[misty wind]

I propose to change this jersey with the new logo

[vital skiff]

And you did pay for your chances to be better, and they are. You just got real unlucky. 55% chance is not 100% chance. It's 55% tried over and over. That means it can miss over and over. Is it unlikely? Yes. Is it unlucky? Yes. But it's not impossible, and it's not a guaranteed success. That's literally how random works, so you just got unlucky by hitting that 45% over and over.

Plus, this is more for suggestions and less complaining, staff can't do anything with just complaining because then they have nothing to pass onto the devs, so you should likely at the very least suggest a change if you think there's an issue.

[tulip badger]

Sorry but it sounds like you do t know what 50% is. It is half which means I should be landing it at least half of the games I play.

[tulip badger]

My suggestion is to fix it so it actually works as it says.

[vital skiff]

50% means every time it rolls, you will have a 50% chance of succeeding and a 50% chance of failing. For example, flipping a coin. Is it impossible to get tails 10 times in a row?

[tulip badger]

I literally just flipped a coin 10 times and only had in land on the same side twice in a row the whole time. Besides that, every other flip was the opposite side.

[vital skiff]

I'm not asking what you got. I'm asking if it's impossible.

[tulip badger]

It’s 50/50 dude

[vital skiff]

Is it physically possible for a coin to be the same side 10 times in a row?

The answer is obviously yes. Thus, it's possible for your role to end up not being gained 10 times in a row. Plus, others may also have talismans too, I don't think the numbers shown factor other players existing. They all also have chances to get that role, and their chances may be greater than yours.

Someone may have a 85% chance shown, or a 73% chance. Talismans work, it's just other players exist and random means random, not guaranteed every other.

Not to mention even if you don't think they work, that's #bugs-readonly and not here-

[tulip badger]

It’s just very unlikely that the coin would land the same side 10x in a row. Just like it should be less likely that my talisman would not do as it says, but I am complaining because this is becoming a reoccurring pattern with all my talisman as I level them up.

[tulip badger]

And there should be nothing wrong with giving this feedback. I’m not the only one that feels this way

[vital skiff]

It is unlikely, but not impossible. Most people have the odds work out, but a slim amount don't have it work. Not to mention your chances aren't actually 50%, that's only calculating out of the 16 role options and talismans YOU have. It doesn't factor other players and their talismans, so your chances could very well actually be much lower (like just 10%).

[vital skiff]

Except it's not really a feedback, it's a #bugs-readonly if you think it's not working-

'Fix this' is never really actually a feedback since it either means something's broken, in which case goes to there, or it's broken by opinion in which case suggestions for what to change are needed.

[tulip badger]

Well I’m guessing you’re one of the lucky ones then.

[vital skiff]

My odds are alright, but I'm usually shown to have around a 70% chance when I tend to use them. But if you really do think they're broken then do report it in #bugs-readonly , that's the spot for reporting things you think don't work.

[runic dragon]

I watched a video but i recived no reward.

[vital skiff]

#bugs-readonly

[clever cypress]

could have a command in the game that we block the function that we don't like so we don't fall into it in roulette and want to go with it to activate it again.

it would be wonderful, I would never go hh again and no fool

[clever cypress]

and when blocking, you would also have the option to block the talisman purchase or not and whether or not you want to receive it in the chest

It would be so nice if you could have that option.

[fair zephyr]

Hey @next nymph I deleted your message because it was rude. You don't have to like everything, but you can express your opinion differently.

[runic dragon]

Hey hey, this has already been suggested before and put in #feedback-devs as you can see here: #feedback-devs message
But since this has been a while ago, I can give it a repost, if you want. Thanks for your suggestion

[runic dragon]

Hey hey. I agree, so I'll give it a post. Thanks for your suggestion

[runic dragon]

Hey hey, if you tried to buy it with real money, but still got "Why are you trying to cheat?", I'd suggest you to bust it in #bugs-readonly, as this sounds like a bug. Thank you

[runic dragon]

Hey hey, this sounds like a new suggestion, so I'll give it a post. Thanks for your suggestion

Let’s add a journal where you can write things such as information with you’re role if you are aura 1 unk 2 good and it will be shown when you die?

[runic dragon]

Hey hey, I am sorry you experienced this. Please make sure to report these players in game and if they teamed or bossted, please open a guardian ticket. Do you have any suggestions, how such situations could be prevented? Thanks in advance

[runic dragon]

Hey hey, I understand that this is annoying. Please make sure to report such cases in your round. To your suggestion: higher level caps for sandbox have already been suggested before. You already need some games/experience to play sandbox. In addition, a higher level does not mean that there are less throwers and after all, people need to learn to play with the roles of sandbox. Sandbox is for everyone to test new roles and inform the staff about it. If you want to play with higher leveled players, I would recommend you to play advanced games or ranked games. Thank you very much

[quaint bramble]

"it will be shown when you die?" is super overpowered and unnecesary...
the aura alr gave that info, others should already know about it.

[runic dragon]

Hey hey, I am sorry you don't like the role. Do you have any suggestions, what could be changed to make it more fitting? Thanks in advance

[runic dragon]

It’s maybe overpowered but how are we gonna show it if someone dies maybe you can give it to med and he can reveal it or something

[vital skiff]

It's just a really unnecessary buff for the village- they can say info and Medium can tell it, it's just not needed tbh

[runic dragon]

Or another special role you can give to that role so it’s fair for the village

Replaced for the med

[quaint bramble]

its basically 'wills' from town of salem. is that where you got the idea?

cause they should avoid copying those.

[runic dragon]

Nah I don’t know that game

How do you get roles like you have because you have arso?

[quaint bramble]

sure, worth a shot, but role ideas dont go here, and you dont make a good role in 5 mins.
think about a bit more and have a look around in #role-ideas-readonly

[runic dragon]

Hey hey, I forwarded this rule. What other rules are outdated? Thank you and thanks in advance

[hearty lantern]

What is Mee6?

@fiery swift
Read that awesome document to get some information on that

[runic dragon]

I see

[cyan barn]

The "evolition tree(s)" of roles should be shown

[runic dragon]

Evolution?

[cyan barn]

for cards beta

When you pick an alternative role, it should be reflected in the role list

[runic dragon]

Hmmmm

[cyan barn]

Well imagine how it felt seeing warden in a jailor match after warden was removed?

well i think ot was after

[brazen parrot]

Well, in that case, I encourage you to give ideas to make more attractive play ranked or advanced game 😊

[brazen parrot]

With "in cards" you mean the cards section right?

[floral heath]

i dont like this actually for some reason, maybe its just me but its better that you don’t know the Advanced role is there at first as its an advantage of an Advanced role to hide behind base roles so that you don’t expect them, you don’t see them coming

[brazen parrot]

Then a message where you can know the number of cards you get in "cards" section and a timer near to the "?" Icon? Alright, I think it can works. Thanks for your suggestion!

[cyan barn]

yea but then that could breed p2w... remember that vigi/cupid list you suggested? Well imagine on d3 gunner pulls up and gives evils majority

[runic dragon]

New Color massage suggestion:
Add new colour like blue/green for some role
Like rl: x visited an evil player: with red color text
and : x visit attacked player and it does too: with blue color text
And can be Used to Marksman and Priest too.
It can make us easy to read and confirm what was happen

[twilit hollow]

Wolvesville web version: The "New message!" text at the top of the text covers the very first message where it shows who died that night (And any other messages that may appear first). I suggest fixing this by placing it at the bottom of the text instead

[clever cypress]

How did you leave it like this?
Like the chat to the other side?

[twilit hollow]

In the settings there’s an invert layout check box

[clever cypress]

Tkkss

[trail warren]

night watchman is such a fun role, it makes doctor actually have a purpose, like I can find out if a RRV is a protection role and someone is lying, also can maximise protection

that's my two cents

[versed flower]

i think that if a player's internet is struggling to connect to a lobby, some sort of popup saying something along the lines of your connection is unstable and you may get disconnected and flee during the game should come up in a window. ive been in a lot of lobbies where it ends up deserted because people get disconnected and there's mostly off players, making the game unplayable. i think this could help.

[hushed folio]

On the mortician nerf, make it two nights before the body decays. Example:
N1:body dies
D1: normal day phase
N2: can perform autopsy. gives 2 suspects
D2: normal day phase
N3: body is slightly decayed, results arent so good, 3 possible suspects
D3: normal day phase
N4: body is rotten, unable to perform autopsy.
This is because sometimes mortician can die the same night as the victim, so they are unable to get any info.

Also, maybe not a good idea, but in case no evils are killing, mortician could be able to autopsy players killed by witch, mm, jailer, bh, to get possible good suspects and start narrowing who is good and who is not.

[vital skiff]

How does the last line there apply at all, I may ask? I mean yes, but exact same case as with your suggestion no? In both cases Mortician may die the same night as the victim and get no info

[hushed folio]

what last line?? and yes they can die the same night as the victim, but with the nerf that is proposed in #feedback-devs they wouldnt be able to see who killed that victim after being revived. my nerf makes it easier to get info for mortician. specially in games where ww and rk dont kill every night. i dont get any part of your answer tbh. could you elaborate?

[vital skiff]

The last line of the post I replied to. It says sometimes they die in the same night as the victim and so can't get info, but the body decay nerf I see... well, it's the same deal as yours in that case? So don't get why you say that. Both your nerf and that one have the exact same situation for if Mortician and the victim die in the same night, so it doesn't make sense for you to say it when it's the exact same.

How is yours any different in the department of when Mortician and a victim die in the same night-

[hushed folio]

ok. so i will use an example. with the nerf ig it would go as following:
so night one sk and ww kill mort and doc.
night two mort gets revived. sk was jailed and ww hit a protected target.
night three mort cant chack doc since doc would be dacayed. that night mort is killed again. they got zero info. with my nerf they would be able to see who killed doc even thought there would be three suspects.

or in another example. night 1 ww kill doc
night two arso kills mort before they can autopsy and is revived that same night. ww convert cursed so no new kills.
night three doc has decayed and mort doesnt get info. with my nerf they could still see how doc was killed

[broken cedar]

Wolf fan starts his aura as good, yet the role description shows his aura is evil

So how is his aura description evil, if he shows good before his conversion?

(1 was wolf fan)

Or maybe replace the 'villagers' with 'info givers'

It's confusing in my opinion

[teal schooner]

Just fix the aura 👀

[broken cedar]

It's basically cursed that should help the wolves

[teal schooner]

It's cursed but werewolf

[broken cedar]

yes

[teal schooner]

Basically at least

[burnt bluff]

I don't want to suggest schedule quests 👀

Just favorites so leaders can see voted directly from clan instead of some other manner,
Currently they've to announce in clan / discord and wait for everyone to vote

[vital skiff]

Alright gotcha, weird way to sum it up in the last sentence but I get it. Thing is that your nerf idea hardly touches it at all- basically zero difference to how it currently is.

[hushed folio]

the body would rot after three nights tho. so they cant check the body during night four if the body died night one.

[vital skiff]

That's still... basically not a change from how it is currently, tbh. Maybe very rarely a slight one, but chances are it'd just result in being the same as Mortician is rn.

Plus it kinda just complicates the role a good bit- rn it's pretty simple but that adds on at least 2 new features to add to it and understand

[hushed folio]

then, ok? i just proposed it cause the nerf in feedback-devs diminished the powers of mort a lot and reduced it to a glorified sheriff.

[hushed folio]

||well zombies also have a lot features||

[vital skiff]

Yeah? And I think that it's not really a valid nerf suggestion- you gave feedback on a suggestion, I can do the same- the one in feedback-devs I feel is at least an actual nerf, but that is still letting the role be decently powerful. Whereas yours basically results in it basically still being Mortician as it is now with hardly any change at all.

[vital skiff]

Yes that's correct, and? Zombie's not Mortician.

Saying it's fine to have other roles be turned from simple concepts to having a lot of more complex features just because another role may have them doesn't really make sense- roles are different.

Sure, it's fine and allowed to do and suggest, but not always the best to do. Better to be kept simple-

[runic dragon]

Pls fix Spectator as fast as you can. Since it's weird playing with 15 player only cuz they came and did instant spec while the countdown still Counting and start the game

It's ranked anyway

And I see in the help menu it said we can't spectate in Ranked and Custom game

Also you can add new option to only watch/spectator mode menu in the buttom of play button

So if you only want watch you need to click it.

And if the game end. There's new option
Keep watching and join next game

And if you're playing is should be
Keep playing or spectate next game

[runic dragon]

Can you add rsv in sandbox. Since it look fun

[vital skiff]

You can suggest setups with it to @meager gyro -

[runic dragon]

Ok

You don't need to ping

I was already know. 👀

[vital skiff]

I didn't ping, editing it in after causes it to not ping- and not everyone knows so just in case.

[shut pecan]

Bring back snippets to ranked please. They were very good and necessary. It would improve current ranked situation, and fix many of the problems.

[shut pecan]

If someone dislike please explain. I think it should be voted at least in #feedback-devs

[teal schooner]

Just... Just type

The reason it was removed is because it gave village a massive and unfair advantage

[vital skiff]

Ranked is also meant to be one of the most fair and balanced modes with the least out of game methods that can be used to just be unfair, snippets are the opposite of that (it's why they were removed). They weren't good or necessary, and it caused gamebreaking problems.

[runic dragon]

It's cheating for me

It's like will in tos

Last will

[shut pecan]

i think with the newer players joining, and veteran players leaving, giving access to snippets make it a better experience overall. evils can fake snippet too

[runic dragon]

It's can make some gamethrow

I don't like that

Some confusing information at once

And fake

[shut pecan]

its an added mechanic. u can balance village by making evils stronger in some other way

overall... makes the game easier to play

[runic dragon]

Still

I don't like it

[vital skiff]

Or you can balance the village by not adding something not at all needed? As Box put it simply: Just type.

I think taking 2 more seconds to type something out is far better than reviving something that was killed for how bad for the game it was.

[shut pecan]

id agree if it wasnt needed. my point is that it makes the game easier to play overall

snippets can be more useful for evils in fact

much more useful

[vital skiff]

Easier for the village, by sparing them like. 2 seconds of typing. And then you're also saying it's fine because it can be balanced out by adding in some totally other mechanic for the bad guys to be fair.

[vital skiff]

Ha

[shut pecan]

evils need to adapt to day 1 info

suddenly... u are called unknown, or detective checks you

snippet is your hero

u wont be metagamed if you are slow

[vital skiff]

Yeah that's just an outright lie.

Not even going to try to dance around it, that's just blatantly false.

You're just saying that maybe some people might have a possible fix for an issue that you're suggesting they create.

One that might not even be guaranteed to work at all

[shut pecan]

heh... I had detective snippet back then myself, in case i was checked by det as solo

[vital skiff]

And that takes a ton of effort to make work by making sure the exact grammar was perfect for everyone and everything.

[vital skiff]

So you had a solution that sometimes worked for a problem caused by snippets?

Seems better to cut the problem out at the core instead of taking a gamble on something maybe working because of a problem you want to cause.

[shut pecan]

how is that a problem caused by snippets, in the first place? and it wasnt just something it worked "sometime". it was a single example for various situations

[vital skiff]

Well, you'd generally need to bust out the fake snippets in order to counteract someone else's real snippets, no?

[shut pecan]

it doesnt even have to be a fixed snippet. iirc u could have custom ones

[vital skiff]

To go 'see my snippets also look real so now it's back to the normal game of actually using deduction to figure things out'

If it's custom only, that's fine, yeah. Fixed ones should never return.

[shut pecan]

you could. sometimes that leads to spam, which is reportable. fixed snippets are still very useful and should come back imo

[vital skiff]

Fixed snippets were a mistake and their deletion was one of the best things the game ever did, frankly.

They were so abusable.

[shut pecan]

snippets underrated.

i think if majority likes them, they should come back

so i suggest they go to vote

[vital skiff]

Why do you think they're gone?

The majority hated them and wanted them gone, and so they got removed.

Pointless to try and go 'hey do you all want an easily abusable feature that you already asked and pleaded we remove?'

[shut pecan]

mainly because newer players dont really have a voice here. and snippets are very useful mainly for newer players

we should favor newer players, somewhat

[vital skiff]

Frankly that's also absolutely false.

Newer players suffer the most.

The older players will be used to abusing snippets in order to prove themselves as good, while the newer ones won't know how to fight them.

[shut pecan]

id say veteran players disliked it... because they didnt have use for it

[vital skiff]

Meanwhile as of right now, new players already have the capability to go 'so I'm [role] and used my ability on [#] and saw them as [role/aura]'

[shut pecan]

sounds like minority for me. it saves life to newer players, who dont really know what to do

[vital skiff]

Sounds like logical reasoning to me that new players won't know how to fight against someone who goes 'my snippet has the exact correct grammatical format thus I am right'. It screws over new players who don't know that they apparently have to perfectly format their every message or else they just instantly get caught.
It's frankly a bad idea. Snippets were removed for a reason. They were abused literally every single game, and it ruined a lot of games. They were removed for good reason, and asking for them to return in a fixed form is honestly just insane.

I don't see any reason in trying to explain further when you clearly just do not understand why they got removed and why so many players thought they were bad, so just going to let staff see the views shown.

They already know of all the begging, fighting, and pleading there was before to get snippets removed in the first place, so hopefully they'll be able to explain it better than I could.

[shut pecan]

I hope so. im not quite convinced

i think a new voting would confirm it

[vital skiff]

Btw, there was a vote about it already and majority said remove snippets. That's how they were removed in the first place.

[shut pecan]

oh yea i guessed that from one of ur previous comments. not giving up tho

[vital skiff]

Wish you would

Hope staff will word it better 👋

[teal schooner]

https://discordapp.com/channels/414179354814185498/441607711403278336/756472916119650385 > They had an option to keep it in ranked and the vast majority did not want it 👀

[shut pecan]

i think it should be in all gamemodes

cause it should be in ranked for sure

[teal schooner]

You suggested to have it in ranked in the first place 👀

[shut pecan]

joining ranked, and see this new complete feature, woud be very confusing for a new player

if u think about it

it works well in quick game, sandbox and ranked

[teal schooner]

Ranked isn't for new players, though...

[shut pecan]

all for different reasons... somehwat

[shut pecan]

ah yea. i mean, when a new player transitions from quick play//sandbox to ranked

[runic dragon]

Yep

I agree

[runic dragon]

They'll go to standard

[teal schooner]

Not really, you still need a lot of experience to get to ranked in the first place, snippets will just be seen as oh yes, this is here? Break the game, now.

[runic dragon]

And they're new

They'll know anything

[runic dragon]

Agreed

[shut pecan]

i see a lot of inexperienced players in ranked games.

a loooot

giving them snippets improves their gameplay, and therefore the rank lobby overall

[teal schooner]

Giving them snippets will improve their gameplay by breaking the game

[shut pecan]

not really... i dont see new players abusing them

more so using them as guide

so they can be at same level

[teal schooner]

We don't see new players abusing them, it's with more skilled players just making the game unplayable for evil roles

And you're introducing it to ranked of all places

[runic dragon]

Are you still in standard?

[shut pecan]

ive stated it works for evils in many situation earlier. the reason it would be a great addition to ranked is that it helps both new and veteran players

me?

[runic dragon]

Y

Cuz I saw you in advance

And there's less newbie

Just thrower or confused people

[shut pecan]

less newbie

still a good amount

would improve the rank experience

[runic dragon]

Less player play ranked

They'll only played in sandbox/quick play

[teal schooner]

No, not really. In most cases it just harms them/

[runic dragon]

Some Newbie didn't have interest in ranked. Since it used gold. And many veteran is toxic ||maybe I'm one of them? Lol||

[shut pecan]

i think if ranked players really care about game, they wont abuse. snippet abuse can be moderated...and also isnt as bad as the benefits snippets bring

to all kinds of players

[teal schooner]

So you prefer to have the report system flooded with reports?

[shut pecan]

not at all

just a rule would be enough

a small discouragement

[runic dragon]

I'll report all faker snippet

Only for village

[shut pecan]

you can fake snippet as village too, for balance

[teal schooner]

Then... Why add it in the first place? You know that rules won't keep everyone in line.

[shut pecan]

it will. just like ethical suicide

why is there option to suicide anyways?

flee*

[teal schooner]

Ask yourself that and think a bit deeper into it

[runic dragon]

Maybe some one accidentally Played ranked so they want leave

It's better than afk in game

[shut pecan]

the point is that rules would improve it a lot

before, ethical suicide wasnt prhobited

and players used it all the time

[teal schooner]

Indeed, but fleeing is essential to the game. Snippets, are not.

[runic dragon]

Did you prefer play with afk player?
||It's like playing with corrupted player||

[teal schooner]

Oh, an earthquake just hit?! Just wait a few minutes you annoying tectonic plates!

[shut pecan]

it does have its very good improvements. i think ur skipping that point

[teal schooner]

It's not... we know what happened last time devs thought it would've been a good improvement

[runic dragon]

If it's good why they were remove it

[shut pecan]

they were right. they just didnt thought about the negatives

a rule as we discussed could potentially fix it

[teal schooner]

... Neither are you currently

[shut pecan]

its the whole discussion so far...

?

[teal schooner]

It's a rule, not everyone's following it. It's better to have it not occur in the first place

[teal schooner]

The whole discussion was you trying to convince us that it's a good idea to have Snippets in the game again

[runic dragon]

Do you know. Some people in my country say.
rules are there to be broken

[shut pecan]

i think the small risk, just like some players are able to do ethical suicide, is worth it

specially for the game to grow

its not really just a useful addittion, its a smart one

[runic dragon]

If there's snippet in game. I won't play again

[teal schooner]

It's neither...

[teal schooner]

Ethical Fleeing is something that is unavoidable. Unlike Snippet abuse

[shut pecan]

the main difference is there not being a rule. i strongly believe this, and i think players would reconsider. i think its worth insisting to vote it again

[teal schooner]

A rule won't stop it. Unlike Ethical Fleeing, snippet abuse has no downside. The few reasons ethical fleeing doesn't happen as much is because the downsides are far greater

[shut pecan]

downsides ? as in.... it requires to flee? that's only because there is a rule against fleeing in the first place

[teal schooner]

As in you die.

I still don't get why you're advocating for snippets to be returned in the first place since it does more harm than good.

[shut pecan]

the result u get is always much better. thats the point of the ethical suicide. exploit of the flee system

[shut pecan]

i thought i gave very good reasons they are good

[teal schooner]

The same thing, Snippet Abuse

[shut pecan]

yup. another exploit that should be regulated

removing it completely was missed opportunity

[teal schooner]

No... not really, the reasons you gave were basically 'New players want this' and 'Ranked players won't abuse it'

[shut pecan]

it benefits all kinds of player

i said... more experienced help save time // have improvised info as evil, with no metagame of being "slow"

for new players.... as a guide, and make sure they can follow

do you disagree?

[teal schooner]

It's still better to not have it in the first place. No need to regulate it, thus flooding the reports because of how easy it is to abuse without any things as drawbacks.

[shut pecan]

but do you disagree about those being good improvements, to keep the game healthy?

just making sure u get my point

[teal schooner]

wait bad grammar

[teal schooner]

I do, yeah. It does, indeed benefit new players, sure, but the amount of damage it will do by the better players would drive them away from playing

[shut pecan]

drawbacks.... evils being able to use fake snippets too.

not just those emergency once i mentioned, depending on what info village gathered

but also helps new players fake being village roles

[teal schooner]

They can, though, they don't benefit as much as villagers do.

[shut pecan]

oh yea. it helps village... but mostly because new players dont really have experience, that could be gained and practiced with snippets

[teal schooner]

Snippets won't really teach them, it'll make them reliant on it

[shut pecan]

and maybe i can agree about that too.. no only bc of what i just mentioned. but i also said earlier it can be balanced in other ways

[shut pecan]

some players may rely on them... but its fine, specially if they arent competitive

those who want to be competitive players wont rely on them

[teal schooner]

It's not fine. It doesn't teach them anything, the only thing it teaches is to press a button

[shut pecan]

it does teach them.... they can very well play along, and experience the game in the meantime

[teal schooner]

We can end it here and leave it for staff, but I doubt you'll have a different response...

[runic dragon]

Wow

[shut pecan]

oh well. i hope they at least consider the democratic option

[runic dragon]

You all still doubt about it?

Gg

[teal schooner]

Eh... not if all they need to do is to press a button

[runic dragon]

Just let the mod decided

Easy

👀

[shut pecan]

heh... maybe they do press a button. but at least they are involved in the game, and can interpret what they say and what not. "better than afk in game", as @runic dragon would say

[teal schooner]

I doubt they'll just be afk

[runic dragon]

Afk make the roles very hard to guess

If someone left

We know if informant/important role was lwft

Left

It's could be less Danger for village

[shut pecan]

they may as well flee because they are clueless

[runic dragon]

Thrower just can do this in every ranked match

Just click click click

Done

Their mission is complete

👀

[shut pecan]

well... besides spam, thats the minimum u should do

i do know players that do the same without snippets

just repeat info....

[runic dragon]

Anyway

[shut pecan]

no useful comment

[runic dragon]

You can do pretype

It's another way to use snippet

👀

[teal schooner]

https://discordapp.com/channels/414179354814185498/416576750991048705/958579847448367114 Previous feedback 👀

[ripe cradle]

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