Not all cupid
#feedback-readonly
wraith lagoon
There should be dark mode for this game
brave folio
@runic dragon that has already been suggested and also posted. Thanks for suggesting anyways 💛
@buoyant pawn you can read #ingame-reports-archieved and see the list of the guardians. Message one of them to ask about your ban ^^
@dense bison Ah ok, but it should be something more than just a special mode for all coupled?
@wraith lagoon Dark mode has already been suggested and also posted ^^ Thanks for your time 
novel fable
highlighting also when your role is said could be useful
weary hull
@night path if thats the problem then why dont we just add some sort of cap to the amount of roses you get back? like if theres less than 10 players in the game, you'd get a few roses back (ex; 9 players ig; you get one rose back. 4 players ig; you get 6 back. etc). If there's more than 10, then you won't get anything back.
barren remnant
I think instead of taking the clan quests that we have over and over again, if there is a mission we have, It should give gold please change this 🙏🏻😊🔥💞
For example:It could give 500 per quest if we have that.
or 300
brave folio
Per clan quest
brave folio
@runic dragon Hi ^^ Do you have any feedback to give us? Or if you just wanna talk about the game, please move to #wov-chat or #off-topic for off topics
runic dragon
Je parle fr.-.
🙄 why are there certain people, you can report many many times and they nerver seem to get banned?
There is a certain person in ranked who is very toxic and insulted me many times and still seem to never even have a one day ban. 🙄
rich karma
@brave folio so far there is the possibility of 6 leaders per clan. it should be better 7 so that no votes among the clan leaders can end in a tie
runic dragon
🙄 maybe I should take screenshots of them and post them here. It is very annoying and also ruins the game.
brave folio
@runic dragon #french to speak french
@runic dragon The guardians need at least 12 reports (from the same player may not be counted 😅) to handle them
runic dragon
@brave folio which means it's ok if they only insult me? 🙄 sounds fair.
I will take a ss of very insult from now on. If it counts 12, I will post them here. This is not fair at all.
brave folio
You can tell other players to report them
@runic dragon And please dont post them here. You can report directly to a guardian. Read #ingame-reports-archieved -> you can see a list of them
runic dragon
Other players ranked are as toxic.. they always say f*ck you, call each other dumb, stupid etc. And most of them are friends
brave folio
Im so sorry about it 😅
runic dragon
🙄 this reporting system is really bad.
runic dragon
Yeet I was banned for hate speech
What is that
Nah I don’t wanna dispute my ban
Just wanna know what hate speech is
Lemme know when it becomes a real thing
rigid bronze
Hate speech = insults, being rude, talking badly etc
blazing cobalt
oh yea btw maybe you should put like a ban when a person curses a lot ingame? like something to detect all the swears
idk
how to get rank
languid cape
Onfg guys people bully me in ranked for shooting aura its so toxic 🥺
I jail kill gunner then detective told me to die why is ranked so toxic 🥺🥺
...
uncut tusk
@blazing cobalt Heya, there's already such a system in the game ;) But thanks for suggesting!
To increase your rank in discord, you should write more messages (but don't spam!) ;)
@languid cape No need to comment 😅
blazing cobalt
wait then why don’t people get banned because i swear i see a lot of people in the game cussing many times
runic dragon
Wait u get banned for being rude
Than 90 percent of players would get banned
So u gotta redefine hate speech
uncut tusk
Some bad words get through the filter, or they intentionally misspell them. This system isn't perfect but it's being improved on ;)
@runic dragon It's in the rules... And common sense.
runic dragon
Well rude people aren’t being banned
So it’s not the rules
This is sooo toxic omggg
uncut tusk
They are, just need to report them
serene mountain
Remove the exit button so PEOPLE DON'T LEAVE until they are DEAD because every good roles commit suicide AND IS SO ANNOYING do something
serene mountain
Oml -_-
runic dragon
🤠
serene mountain
Commit god
serene mountain
Yes
tough halo
wanton prism
Can cupid, zombie and sect not appear in any ranked set ups?
Currently there are lots of ranked comps with these roles
But they cause a lot of confusion
willow plover
I suggest add some event challenge like valentine,halloween,christmas,etc (similar to clan quests but only individual). For event like valentine the challenge is win as lover without cupid dies(villager wins still not counted) many times and something reward nicely when completed.
Pls don't add reaction like denied or accept before put it in #feedback-devs
dense tendon
It should be possible to set the day/night time at custom games through typing/keyboard. It can be a bit tricky for players with big fingers 😁. Don't know if this has been suggested
cedar depot
We have to take the complaint button to an easy place
Like the example in the picture
Of course there may be an "exclamation point"
Or just an exclamation mark
🤷🏻♂️
autumn veldt
A possible suggestion for ranked. Gain extra skill points for gunner/priest if you water/shoot correctly. Just a small amount so that it rewards good players with bad village.
wanton prism
@autumn veldt shooting evil isn’t necessary good play since sometimes it’s wasting bullets when you can lynch a confirmed evil
Better system would be an mvp system where players vote who the best player is but so far devs have not implemented it
peak knot
Yeah shooting confirmed evil is a bad play in a fool game
solar dew
@brave folio sorry for the ping, but I think you overread this message👀 
brave folio
I got it 
thanks
brave folio
@rich karma Hi ya, but what should be voted between clan leaders?
@runic dragon 1. If having a couple randomly but from different teams be pre-made, so what does Cupid do in that game? It's just like no Cupid but the game still has lovers 👀
Other thing, even the lovers die, cupid still can win with the village. Also give the cupid the ability to protect will make this role become OP because it's not really hard to win as cupid and lovers. If cupid select two players from different team to couple, he already has 70% chance to win 
@tough halo Hi, do you have any feedback for us? If you just wanna talk, please move to #wov-chat to talk about the game or #off-topic for off topic ^^
@willow plover Hey ya, it sounds interesting and I will add to #feedback-devs ^^ Thanks for your time 
@dense tendon I dont think it's really needed 😅 It's not really when you just need to press on the button and push. Anyways I will add it to #feedback-devs thanks for suggesting
vale gyro
Mode for experienced players with level separation? Will we ever get that?
wanton prism
@vale gyro levels don’t determine skill. Some people just farm customs and have no idea of how the game works
brave folio
@cedar depot Thanks for your suggestion I will add it to #feedback-devs
cedar depot
Okay
vale gyro
Most high-level players are better though. It's about the majority. Ranked is an absolute mess so i won't even mention that.
brave folio
@autumn veldt sometimes we can't shoot correctly because of lack of infomation when all checking roles die tho 👀
@wanton prism You can play ranked mode, we already have different leagues to seperate experienced players with new players. And something like increase the level insistence to join ranked mode has been suggested too
runic dragon
🙄🙄🙄 so telling people to kill themselves is bad enough to get someone an instant ban or does the person still need 12 reports?
quaint bramble
For something that is very serious like that;, you can send their username or a screenshot to a Guardian, they will decide if it gets them a ban right away
but you do need to have them reported ingame first or else they cant check the chatlog
runic dragon
🙄 I send it to someone. I hope this person gets a ban. I meet him many times and he is really toxic
I reported him at least 3 times..
quaint bramble
only 1 report per game will be counted, so try not to do that multiple times in one match ^^
runic dragon
I reported him in different games.. for same reason tho..always hate speech
quaint bramble
It will surely be dealt with by the guardians then, thanks for your reports ^^
vast ice
where can i chat with an guardian?
runic dragon
quaint bramble
@vast ice Send one of them a direct message and wait patiently for a reply, they get a lot of unban requests etc
Next time please use the #questions channel, this one is meant for ideas and suggestions
wraith lagoon
I wish there would be an option "Don't matchmake with teamed players"
What if I want to play with full random people?
spare frigate
That sounds like a good idea! Might create longer wait times to find a match sometimes, and obviously you shouldn't be able to do that while partied.
vapid nymph
When you are on your profile or another players profile and you get invited to a lobby and click on the notification to join the game,when you join the profile should automatically close,it gets really laggy at least for me when I join a lobby and i still have someone's profile on my screen
sacred sable
Do you mean a... solo queue?
spare frigate
Yeah I think that's what he means
cerulean snow
May I talk to an admin please
opaque pollen
@cerulean snow What is your issue so I can direct you?
rich karma
@brave folio are you not in a clan yourself? with us (and i hope in many other clans too) some things are coordinated. for example whether we should accept a member, how much gold should be donated etc etc
tight trellis
I have a suggestion for a rule. A bunch of games I've been in have people on the village team saying the seer is bad so they can get voted next round. They do this even though they are on the village team.
vapid nymph
I think you pinged the wrong person 👀
forest rover
Indeed sorry 😅
vapid nymph
Np
forest rover
@wraith lagoon what would you consider as teamed players? Friends?
wraith lagoon
Obviously @forest rover
forest rover
@vapid nymph Gonna add it in #feedback-devs, thank you for suggesting 
(correct ping this time 
)
vapid nymph
Thank you 😁
forest rover
@tight trellis that’s gamethrowing and you should report it. As villager, they should try to win in their team and if they don’t, they should be reported. Thank you tho
@wraith lagoon hmmm not all people playing with friends are teamed but posting it won’t hurt.
Would you mind if I change “I wish there would be an option “Don’t matchmake with teamed players”” into “ Could we have a setting that doesn’t allow players that are in playing with friends play with us?” It seems better than teamed players I think
wraith lagoon
@forest rover actually that's what I meant
It would be awasome to have option like this
forest rover
I see,gonna add it @wraith lagoon, thank you for suggesting
wraith lagoon
Also can we buff ww seer role?
wraith lagoon
Why? Ww isnt op
wraith lagoon
Spiritseer shouldn't see werewolf seer as "red" (unless werewolf seer decides to resign himself) because it doesn't actually kill. Makes sense right?
runic dragon
I thought they didn’t
Obviously that should happen
It should only be the people who vote to kill that person
wraith lagoon
@languid cape didn't like our idea
languid cape
Yes because it creates too much confussion and nerfs it a lot while the role itself already has less credibility
Its like bh.2
It pretty balanced as it is right now in ranked. Idk about in other game modes but I know that sandbox is a testing platform anyways
wraith lagoon
You know, ww seer actually can't kill, just like normal seer he gives info to his team
There is no sense for ww seer be "red"
languid cape
They are involved in the killing process
wraith lagoon
Seer also involved in killing ww but can't kill himself manually right?
Seer says, village kills
wraith lagoon
Yes because ww seer is in ww team thats why he is "evil"
languid cape
So they are a killer
wraith lagoon
Only if he resigns
quaint bramble
Spirit seer is already a pretty confusing role to a lot of people, i think its more clear to have ww seer be red as well
I dont know the exact lore, but why should we assume that ww seer stays at home while the others kill? Maybe he needs to come along and get close to check someone's role 😛
wraith lagoon
But ww seer only check right? @quaint bramble
quaint bramble
and the game isnt always so logical anyway; if the weakest ww is in jail, he can still die from bh trap for example!
it needs simple logic and rules, werewolves are killers so they are red
wraith lagoon
Sorcerer (beta ww seer) is in ww team but he cant kill right?
languid cape
In terms of balance, spirit seer seeing ww seer as red is good for now I think
Its a pretty easy fake claim and people dont trust you
wraith lagoon
If the weakest ww in jail, another weakest ww except regular ww should die
languid cape
.—.
I could find so many things that are not logical in the game but its the most balanced @wraith lagoon
If I saw something that isnt balanced I would be feedbacking with you too
wraith lagoon
Ok lets go into depth. What ss sees? He sees who killed someone last night. If mm shot ww last night – he is "red"
If jailer killed his prey last night – he's aslo "red"
But ww seer only checks others, it's imposible to him to be "red"
quaint bramble
Im sorry but this discussion has been done many times before and like I told you, we prefer to keep the role as simple as possible.
wraith lagoon
Ok
coarse vine
Hey
Um banned
Iam banner
My nick
Omg
Desban
Please
My nick is BritneyBiitch
forest rover
Hey @coarse vine don’t spam here please 
runic dragon
forest rover
Check that ^
Also you should change your name because indeed it is bannable @coarse vine
woeful mesa
Hi, what does the last feedback devs mean? I don't get it sorry
forest rover
@woeful mesa it means that if you turn on that setting, people that are playing with friends won’t appear in the same lobby as you.
woeful mesa
@forest rover Wdym same lobby? Like if they are already in a lobby they can hardly be in yours too🤔
forest rover
Imagine that 8 players are waiting in friends’s lobby. If they start and you’re waiting in the game lobby they will be send into another lobby @woeful mesa
woeful mesa
Oh I get it, so you mean you would only be able to play with solo players? ||it took me time to get it oof||
forest rover
Yes exactly that @woeful mesa
spare frigate
Last time I posted this it wasn't really seen (so I'm reposting hope that's ok).
A toggleable option to be able to see the online dead people as transparent ghosts if you are dead or Medium. If they go offline their ghost will fade out and disappear. The medium and other online dead can only see them during night.
forest rover
@spare frigate you already can see with which players are offline if they’re dead because they have a message below the name so I don’t think it would be really useful, thank you for suggesting tho!
spare frigate
Yeah I just thought it would be a nice addition and sometimes the med doesn't realize when theyre offline
median elbow
I wish there were villagers that harmed the village unintentionally. I want a whole set of villagers that are useless and harmful. Damaging villagers cause a large wolf-village balance. Realistically the wolves should win more than the village.
Basic role concepts that make this possible:
Clumsy Seer - You believe you are the real seer but you are unknowingly you are the Clumsy Seer. All your information is random.
Mute - You are a normal village with no abilities, but you can't speak.... Sure a role will "not be fun and cause a lot of suicide" because you can't speak but there are rules about suicide the game for a reason.
Blind Wanderer - You are ably to speak however you can not vote.
No, this should not be in #role-ideas-readonly roles like these are rejected. This is feedback saying harmful villagers that cause unintentional harm and damage should be added to the game. If roles like these they got sent to #dev-vote the community would not take a likening to these because they cause harm. This is feedback and not designed for #role-ideas-readonly. This is balance.
serene mountain
I wish the suicide button didn't existed
forest rover
I don’t think that it is going to be well accepted in #feedback-devs and as you say people will suicide a lot with these roles even if it’s bannable. I agree that we need more weak villagers ig but at least they should have an ability @median elbow
Like fc or sheriff
median elbow
Fc and forkman (and tbh the mad scientist if it was in game) would be in this category. Even if it's not accepted there at least people and the developers will hear this.
Like the mute and blind wander I mention. These 2 roles alone cause a balance. They cause damage. They might not be fun but suicide should have harsher punishments.
Hell who thought adding a suicide button was a good idea? Just add a leave game button and make them be offline for 2 days.
According to #dev-vote and Philipp's messages there suicide should be getting harsher. Even as far as making a softban until a game finishes
forest rover
But it would be like being dead + giving werewolves a reason not to talk. Even if it is made to balance the game it should have something that makes you want to play with it.
median elbow
That's the exact readon why mutes and blind wanders are perfect. It's an easy scapegoat but not all wolves can scapegoat it.
It's better than just claiming doctor. It's a classic scapegoat.
Regardless you jist said the exact reason why this is good.
forest rover
Well I’ll add it in #feedback-devs. Thank you for suggesting
craggy dagger
@median elbow clumsy seer is an example of what werewolf/mafia terminologists call a bastard role, which basically means that you believe certain things about your role/and or the game that are untrue as a result of the game lying to you
Bastard roles are generally frowned upon in competitive gamemodes
median elbow
Okay? We need more bastard roles then
craggy dagger
No, it’s not good if the game is lying to you. Letting roles such as clumsy seer open the door for something like villagers to be wolves when they don’t know it.
Mute is a role I can understand
A role like village idiot - can’t do anything at night but appears to be normal ww to seer/aura seer is good because it tells the player what their restriction is
Also I disagree that wolves should win more than the village. There are less wolves than villagers
This is still debated even today, but a “balanced” setup in my opinion is where a faction wins according to how many slots his team takes divided by the total number of players
quiet iron
Regarding the last feedback, I think the best way to balance the game is creating stronger wolves, not useless villagers, who are not fun to play, and even with the warnings, we know that many suicides are going to happen.
craggy dagger
Meaning village wins 62.5%, werewolves 25% and solo voting/solo killer 6.25% each or thereabouts
I’m okay with wolves winning around 25-30%
quiet iron
I am not bothered by the win rates, but I think if something is going to be done about it, the proposed solution is not the best one.
But I respect those who think otherwise.
median elbow
Doesn't mean they can't be worked on. The thing about "stronger wolves" that only does so much. If there was 1 harmful villager then this would be pro-wolves. 1 harmful villager will buff the wolves but not enough to make the village lose.
A clumsy seer can be found fairly quickly if villagers say you are real or fake
craggy dagger
Cursed exists to buff wws
median elbow
Yes. Those are basically cursed replacements without actually replacing cursed
craggy dagger
Add more scapegoats to the game but without telling them they’re scapegoats
quiet iron
But who would play with these roles? I will be honest, if I won these roles I would be disappointed and probably commit suicide.
median elbow
Many things to do. Lots of opportunity. Easy balance.
quiet iron
And I'm sure that not only me ...
craggy dagger
It’s not fun to be mute
median elbow
You're right it's not but you become an easy scapegoat
craggy dagger
It’s not fun to think you’re the seer and unintentionally mislynch as a villager because of it
quiet iron
People already commit suicide with normal roles, imagine with this roles
craggy dagger
Like, it wouldn’t even be because wws made a good shaman, it’s just because of your role itself that you are giving false infomation
If the rolelist was hidden I can at least see some utility to the clumsy seer, there isn’t much utility at all with clumsy seer as it stands
If you want more scapegoats, swap an rv slot for a forkman
Problem solved
median elbow
That has been suggested before. The unintentionally harmful villagers I believe have not been
craggy dagger
Adding cursed to ranked has been suggested before, so yes unintentionally harmful villagers being added to balance has been suggested
well, maybe not unintentionally harmful villagers but it’s pretty clear clumsy seer and mute are intended to be harmful to village
forest rover
Could you please keep this conversation in #wov-chat? Ik it’s feedback related but you’re flooding a bit with it 👀
quiet iron
I gave my feedback in the first message
craggy dagger
I think we’re done here anyway. It’s only flooding the channel if it makes it hard to see other suggestions
median elbow
I said it was controversial and won't be taken kindly but it's an opinion.
craggy dagger
Discord Suggestion
Please make competitions have a longer timeframe, the timeframe for ranked role setup suggestions was only 12 hours. People could’ve been asleep during that time and missed it, also not everyone is able to think of good setups in such a small amount of time. My suggestion is to make competitions have a minimum of a couple of days to submit entries
quaint bramble
@craggy dagger heya Im not entirely sure but from my perception, that competition was kind of put up spontaneously, to offer a solution on the experimental ranked setup we had at the time
It probbaly gotten a bit bigger than we expected before hand
craggy dagger
I think the number of entries should’ve been foreseen, and I think that 12 hours for a timeframe and then deciding how to judge the competition after the fact shows a lack of vision
craggy hound
Aight something has to be done about the town ALWAYS siding with zombies, no matter how few. I've seen zombies found by paci d1 and ignored. Even when all werewolves were dead and only a few zombies, town hung seer for wanting to go after zombies next.
Something has to be done ASAP.
It is game breaking and encourages gamethrowing and town killing.
Town doesn't even try to kill zombies. Only times zombies lose is if werewolves get lucky
It is straight up RAMPANT the gamethrowing. Whole town just takes easy way out.
quaint bramble
@craggy dagger It was a sign of good will to the player base, that we can react to the demands and controversies and offer you all some space for your ideas.
It could have been handled differently, both better and worse... yes it could have been cut off for another a week or so to put up a more organized competition, but as I said, the staff reacted spontaneously to a complicated situation and I think they all did their best with it.
craggy dagger
Regardless, my feedback is that the competition length was too short.
craggy hound
Not fair to werewolves or town who want to play right. Caters to cheaters in favor of zombies.
quaint bramble
@craggy hound heya over time we got many suggestions about nerfing zombies, please express your support on this vote and things might start changing depending on the outcome;
median elbow
@craggy dagger I agree. Kem hosted a contest in #avatar-catwalk and it last like 20 minutes if that
quaint bramble
That wasnt an official competition
just something he as a person wanted to give away
median elbow
The role set up was official but yet there was a "bonus" category and a "platinum" category, and neither of those categories were announced. Perhaps the real feedback here is please be more clear and give everyone an equal opportunity.
Equal opportunity meaning timezones.
craggy hound
@quaint bramble There is no vote on the subject that I can see. This issue is game breaking and should have been handled long ago. There is no debate on whether it's needed. The role is 100% unfair.
How tf did it even get approved that way?
I'm really pissed tbh.
quaint bramble
Well being angry isnt a great start for a useful conversation... the devs made the role and thought it was fun I guess. Perhaps is was made for playing with friends and helping eachother out not everything is competitive here ^^
and yeah sorry discord has trouble processing that many reactions, try reloading it a few times?
craggy hound
I am pissed but not unreasonable. This issue needs fixing asap and I'll do what VERY LITTLE I can do to help. But in the meantime, I may as well not play unless I want to give in to the easy cheating like everyone else.
Zombies in game are a choice between being lazy and winning (which I find repulsive) or just outright losing.
median elbow
Zombies are villagers that cause minor harm to the village. Zombies literally tell you who is on the village team.
quaint bramble
@craggy hound Try searching #feedback-devs for 'zombie' and upvote the ideas you like
Once the vote convinces the devs to do something abuot the role, they will probably look there for ideas ^^
craggy hound
Zombies aren't villagers, they're a seperate team as defined by the language in the game.
quaint bramble
@runic dragon heya do you have any ideas or suggestions? if not, please move to a different channel to chat such as #wov-chat or #off-topic
median elbow
Zombie balance idea:
Remove the zombie night chat. Solo killers shouldn't have a night chat. Just like lovers they shouldn't have communication.
craggy hound
Still doesn't fix the main issue, which is town deciding to kill all but zombies.
median elbow
It is minor but it still changes things
runic dragon
A request for Alpha Werewolf change:
- Alpha, as it currently is right now, is pretty weak. It only has double votes, and an Unknown aura. Despite being it said to be the 2nd most powerful, right after Wolf Seer, I don't think it's worthy of that strength. So I suggest this ability to replace Double vote:
~ Expel (1 use, Day): During discussion, the Alpha can choose one Werewolf to be expelled from the pack. That Werewolf will lose its ability, but be able to kill someone on its own. It still knows who the Werewolves are, but can't see what they're chatting about, or know if any of the Werewolves in pack use their ability
Kudos to @quiet iron for thinking this up
craggy hound
My search turned up no vote for zombie nerfing, only that one might have existed. Every link takes me back to where there isn't a zombie vote.
Someone said their vote got more likes than dislikes but how are we to know if anything is being done?
median elbow
@runic dragon You expel a wolf? But why? That's the opposite of what a buff is. That's a MAJOR nerf.
median elbow
Ah. Still not worth the change. The alpha wolf being unknown is the primary ability. The double vote is just there. It's pointless.
craggy hound
As it stands, the zombie role forces people to choose between integrity or winning. Therefore, the only people who get punished are those who actually give a rip about playing the game the right.
runic dragon
Ah, i like the idea
quaint bramble
The idea sounds a bit gamethrowy, maybe the wolf doesnt wanna be left to his own devices maybe he doesnt wanna be kicked out... why should alpha be able to amke this choice for others?
runic dragon
Alpha likes voting RL lmao
craggy hound
Whereas the unscrupulous get free xp, wins and to laugh at the honest folks while they cheat.
runic dragon
Well it is the Alpha WW
quiet iron
@quaint bramble Because in a real pack this is what happens
runic dragon
Yes 👀
cedar vessel
I hate it when u kill your love as bomber the 2nd day because you marked him the first day before knowing that player would be your love
runic dragon
You have the right to expel someone, even if it may sounds gamethrowing
quaint bramble
@craggy hound Im sorry to tell you but all of it has been suggested before.. right now we are simply waiting for the devs to decide if they wanna change the zombie role at all.
And when they do, we have pretty much every possible solution already in this server somewhere ^^
runic dragon
It's a nice change too
Compared to just double vote
Being Unknown is not powerful enough to compensate with games that has no Aura
So maybe Expel works?
quiet iron
Maybe a confirmation message for the wolf that is going to be expelled?
quaint bramble
I think that idea would work better as a new role, it seems like a pretty big change from how the role and the whole wolf team works right now 🤔
runic dragon
Then I'd say Leader Werewolf
craggy hound
Well can someone speed that particular vote along because like I said, it's literally encouraging cheating and discouraging honesty as it stands. IE, it cultivates a player base of the worst sort. Those kinds of mistakes are how games die.
runic dragon
:D
quiet iron
Then we will make a new wolf
runic dragon
I guess why not?
quaint bramble
@cedar vessel heya there is currently a vote on this topic too:
https://discordapp.com/channels/414179354814185498/441607711403278336/671679143422722048
Im sorry of the reactions are a little broken, discord has trouble handling this many ^^'
quiet iron
But Alpha still doesn't have a decent ability, and that ability causes problems
Thats my feedback ^
runic dragon
Ok, let's move to the "Cult", team 
cedar vessel
Thanks
craggy hound
I've said enough. My disgust with the current status has been noted. I hope things change or I'm gonna get tired of fighting literally losing battles.
fast sphinx
Maybe add the female version too👀
dense bison
@brave folio No- I mean a 'Speciality Mode' where every game there is a special gamerule, etc: 12 player, 20 player, 3 random couples, double solo, Night mode, etc.
brave folio
@fast sphinx The Dino outfit has just been added to the game for a short time ^^ So i dont think there will be any change more in the near future. But about the Husky outfit, i would tell Kem. Thanks for suggesting as well 
@dense bison Well ok, but will the game randomly set those game rules with your suggestion?
brave folio
ok thanks for your time
mellow brook
The villager is too much then the wolf can not win game often , the rate win of wolf is too little , i need more wolf in game
wanton prism
@mellow brook having more wolves in game breaks the balance of the game
Let’s say it’s sk/fool game
One more wolf would mean 5 ww 1 sk 1 fool vs 9 villagers
Suppose sk and we both kills a villager night 1,
Day 1: 7 evil roles vs 7 villagers
brave folio
@wanton prism please dont help here
wanton prism
Alright
brave folio
@mellow brook that’s how the game works. You can suggest some feedback to make the wws stronger instead
willow plover
My suggestion
- when random voting is released (one fool or headhunter). It should be released on ranked silver league and above.
Reason : too easy who hh or fool (which known who was ig so...)
2.Random Killer and 2 Random Strong Villager(Replacing Jailer and Gunner) will be replaced on platinum league and above.
Reason : Gives more experienced on higher league - In Custom games, Medium should have only one role available even there're some RSV.
Reason : More than one Medium cause confuse who real medium. - New seasons and will balancing the league and skills(Also appear next league).
Cooper : 0-1000 skills
Bronze : 1000-2000 skills
Silver : 2000-3000 skills
Gold : 3000-5000 skills
Platinum : 5000+ skills
Reason : Reaching those league was easier before
median elbow
@willow plover bro I don't even have 5000 skill yet
floral heath
@willow plover I agree about the medium but the reason is not confusion but Medium can confirm each other in dead chat and revive each other. Also most Ranked players ever get skill between the range 1000-4000 so Copper and Platinum will virtually be unusable in your case for most of the season.
fresh musk
I had some feedback about the fortune teller role
I've noticed that people are increasingly getting irate in the game about a certain play style with FT. But i think it's more the role itself that's a problem, not the players.
A very common way to play FT is to toss the two cards out at random and then tell everyone who has the cards. Then, if the players don't reveal, they're probably an evil role. I've seen people imploring other players to report anyone who votes off a player based on not revealing their card
The thing is, unlike similar actual rule-breaks (like betraying your couple), this... seems more like the role is a bit too op. The fortune teller effectively becomes a seer, except unlike a seer, you can't deny the result. If a seer says you're a werewolf (especially early game) you can deny it, call them a headhunter, etc. With a fortune teller, if you have a card and don't reveal it, it's suspicious. Sure, sometimes it turns out they're a doctor or medium or something, but overall it feels a bit unbalanced.
dense bison
I think FT should only have ｏｎｅ card
Or a card which reveals their aura
1 aura card 1 role reveal card maybe?
fresh musk
One aura card sounds good
willow plover
@median elbow @floral heath thanks but only helpers,mods and devs can do the progress since your comments. I think it rewarded higher skill when you win in higher league but lowered many skills when you lose in higher league. For medium which confirm each other the problem is when on dead chat. The dead player confused who talking med either like you or others.
Having 5000+ skills is difficult...
median elbow
@willow plover I think your trying to say you don't care about other peoples opinions and feedback km this and only care about what the helpers+ will say about it
willow plover
Other people opinion might possible but...
median elbow
Getting a full lobby with the 5000 skill requirement is difficult 😉
floral heath
It will probably take 5 weeks or something before a lobby fills past 5000 skill and even then, it will be very slow
I’m not sure if I’m right, but if the league below it doesn’t have enough players either then you might get paired in the higher league
median elbow
He basically said he doesn't care about what others say and only care about the helps+ say. It's pointless talking to him. @floral heath
He has an instant down vote from me for not taking criticism. And with the numbers being unrealistically measured.
I wonder if he even plays ranked
brave folio
@willow plover We wont have enough players for those rank skills 👀
I agree with the 1st suggestion but not with that reason. It should be in high rank because it will make the game more hard to win.
About random killer and 2 random strong villager replace jailer and gunner, it’s too hard for the game without jailer and gunner. We just can vote when priest died or already used his ability?
3. It’s custom games, players should be allowed to set any thing they want.
@fresh musk thanks for your feedback and do you have any suggestion for us improve?
@median elbow and please dont make an argument here. If he doesnt want you to comment his suggestion, just leave.
zealous hollow
Can we lower down the rate of people sudden quit or off
It's getting real annoying
inland hill
I ate a ban, but I suspect that I did not know what I did in the game.
runic dragon
normal wyvern
@inland hill Contact a guardian in the list above. Please be patient until the one answered you. Just click on one of the blue names to contact one
fresh musk
@brave folio that's a tough one. I think having one aura card might improve it? But i don't know
mystic crown
What is it"I ate ban"
normal wyvern
Probably "I got banned"
But it's not a problem when people can't write English well 
brave folio
@zealous hollow sometimes they may have bad connection 
@fresh musk ok I will think about it and give you responses soon when im at home. Thanks for your time
mystic crown
I have been playing the game for 1 year. I got angry and deleted the game today.Gold players are noob
They lynched the fool in 3 of the 3 games I played today
I had 2200 points and I dropped to 1700 points
timid panther
Well 1 point I hate : self kills. I see ppl with lvl 30+ and more then 40%selfkill. This is insane. In my opinion these players must be punish. Like this system. 10%selfkill - 30minutes waiting time after a selfkill 20%selfkill - 1 hour waiting time after selfkill, 30% selfkill - 2 hours waiting time after a selfkill and so on. I mean, look at me. Im a much higher level and 0 self kills.... But it's annoying if the game starts and 4 or more ppl instand selfkill
brave folio
@mystic crown Im so sorry about it 😅 You can try to be in higher rank to play with experienced players
@timid panther We have an automatic banning system 👀 If a player suicides more than 3 times they will get banned immediately
toxic kernel
I don't know if this has already been suggested but maybe a "start sandbox game" button in the "play with friends" option, just so you people can play sandbox games with friends?
timid panther
How can ppl have more then 40% selfkill then? Must be nearly every 2nd game
brave folio
@toxic kernel you can change the flag to sandbox -> then you can play with friends in sandbox 
@timid panther They can continue suiciding after the banned time ends 
sometimes they have bad connection too
toxic kernel
@brave folio oh, thanks, That was a waste of time lol. 😋
brave folio
Also you can report them if you see they do suiciding. Our guardians will handle them as soon as possible *^
timid panther
Well Bad connection okay... But u have enough time to rejoin and ppl with 40% should be punished after each game with a idle time until they are back to a normal level
Report system only works with 12 reports. And if 5 ppl dead, u never get the 12 reports
brave folio
Maybe they stop suiciding too many times for a long time but still have 40% suicides We always want to handle bad behaved players (include suiciding) but we need to make a good decision on when we can ban them. Many ppl complain about the bans everyday tho
timid panther
If u say 3 selfkill then u allow up to 66%selfkill. Sk sk normal sk sk normal. Stupid system to be honest. Bad ppl can ruin most games and receive nothing for it. Anyways. I told u my idea for a sxaling punishment
warm helm
@timid panther hey, as chee explained before some people are required to suicide due to things going on that are more important in their real life than playing wwo. Some people suicide because they dont like their role and so on. These people already got punished by an automatic ban and suiciding can be even reported in ranked and they will be banned for a longer time. Reaching 12 reports can sometimes be hard, but if that person keeps going on with their rulebreaking they will be banned at some point tough. Yes it can be annoying but we they get punished for a ban. Some have a 40% suicide rate and got banned multiple times for it, because they ruin games. Making it stricter is not needed, why? Because it is aoready strict enough. Suiciding twice in 3 hours already leads to a ban. I hope you understand that we do punish them, you just dont get to see that they got banned
loud gazelle
Hello :)
I'd like to add a bot help command to the list for #avatar-ideas. A lot of people come asking where to start designing, and it'd be great if we have a quick message that says: "Please check pinned messages in #avatar-ideas for skin template and WWO design principles". The command name could be ?h designhow.
Thank you ^^
Edited because I just realized it can appear in any channel
glacial warren
@loud gazelle hey ^^ you are right, that many people ask, but you did not mention, that there are 3 different types of pinned messages and it is much nicer to write something, especially if it just such a short sentence. At least nicer than a Bot.
In the end people just go and can't find the pinned messages lol
They most likely ask in #avatar-ideas anyways so eeeh
But I will ask the others
loud gazelle
Well I already write it so often, it'd be nice to just quickly draft a message than having to retype it every time :p
I think it could be combined with #role-ideas-readonly to make the message longer, as it could be useful there as well
@glacial warren thank you for the consideration 
glacial warren
hot valley
mentorchat
Make the target mark of the hh disappear when the target died and got revived as the hh turned into a villager
cedar vessel
People are helping zombies win way to much, like they aren’t even zombies theirselves but still help them to win
forest rover
@hot valley that seems indeed nice so I'll add it.Thank you ❤️
@cedar vessel that's reportable and you should report them in the teaming category
wraith lagoon
Its not teaming
They do, so everyone could win as zombie @cedar vessel
Same case with sect
cedar vessel
Not if there are lik 6 people not zombie and 2 zombies
wraith lagoon
Village usually let zomb and sect win at late game
And? @cedar vessel
You cant stop infection, one gonna die anothe bite
Cycle repeats
Its not teaming
cedar vessel
If gunner shoots one and we vote another
People could be infected but not turned yet, so if we killed them before they turned we would win
wraith lagoon
I see no sense. Zomb arent evil
You can win as zomb as well. You get same xp same skill points
cedar vessel
They are ‘random role killer’ seems evil to me
wraith lagoon
Do zomb kill?
wanton prism
It’s unfair for the villagers who died before converting
cedar vessel
The point is they are evil
Whats the point of the game if you always let zombies win
wraith lagoon
The point is you can win as zomb
cedar vessel
Not if you arent a zombie
wraith lagoon
Also zomb gets more exp I noticed
dusk pond
I have 2 ideas
cedar vessel
I feel more satisfying when i win, its not about the exp
dusk pond
First of all: doppelganger
If You select a guy that dies In the night, you get His role
wraith lagoon
#role-ideas-readonly @dusk pond
dusk pond
I cant now remember the seconf
wraith lagoon
Use #role-ideas-readonly channel for ideas @dusk pond
dusk pond
Ok
willow plover
In chat snippets
(tn) known as target number (for seer, aura seer,tough guy, doctor,etc)
(tr) known as target role (only seer and tough guy works)
(tn1) :target 1,(tn2) :target 2 as number target for detective and spirit seer
Suggested for easier using these
forest rover
@dusk pond @wraith lagoon @cedar vessel @wanton prism helping zombies to win as villager is gamethrowing because you must win with your team, that is villagers.If you want to continue talking about this, please use #wov-chat
wraith lagoon
Anyway that's not gamethrowing
dusk pond
@forest rover I never said that villagers must help zombies
forest rover
Yes it is,even if people doesn't report it @wraith lagoon. It's something objective, not something subjective. As villager, you must try to win as villager, unless coupled, and if you don't it is gamethrowing
willow plover
Sorry lag
forest rover
You don't know you are so you still are villager.
wraith lagoon
Zomb said Im bitten
forest rover
As villager you should neither trust werewolves nor solo roles, and zombie is a solo role
forest rover
Trusting zombies is gamethrowing and is reportable in the teaming category. That's how it was decided and I don't think it is going to be changed. Thank you for giving your opinion tho @wraith lagoon
wraith lagoon
I think most people didn't understand this feedback @forest rover
willow plover
@wraith lagoon me understand cause cheating
forest rover
It could be because they don’t mind tho @wraith lagoon that’s what I add if I don’t mind.
fading kiln
Can there be an option to add a few clans that you like to a 'favourite clan list', so that you could see your favourite clans and if you leave a clan, you can go through that list to find which clan you want to join next.
And also can u make it possible to look at our join/leave/kicked history so that we know which clan we've joined before.
;-;
wraith lagoon
Will this option be released in game? @forest rover
wraith lagoon
Same opinion. Zomb can help village to find zomb @fading kiln
forest rover
@wraith lagoon I don't know tbh, it's up to devs to add it or not but because it is on #feedback-devs perhaps it will.
upper osprey
sheep 
upper osprey
Sheep we need a shop to spend our gold 
forest rover
@fading kiln about your suggestion it seems interesting so I'm going to add it. Thank you for suggesting
fading kiln
Can the rule be changed then @forest rover i dont understand why it is gamethrowing cuz ur goal is to win. If u decide to vote a zombie as villager, they would definitely lynch u and u would lose. If u wait for zombie to convert you, then u will win. 🙂
forest rover
@fading kiln your goal is to win as villager but zombies are not villagers. Helping zombies to win is gamethrowing and I don't think it is going to be changed, you should report them if they as villagers help zombies to win.
fading kiln
Ur goal is to win not wait for zombie to lynch u 😅
And get EXTRAAA XP
And ur just helping urself to win
Noone would report lmao 🤣
willow plover
@fading kiln better talk in #wov-chat... i would say zb win as zb team but it would be too unfair taking villager win as zb.
forest rover
Zombies are another team, consider them as wolves. Would you let wolves win? No. Same with zombies. Please stop talking about this topic, if none reports then it's their fault. If you want to keep talking about this go #wov-chat, I think I already said it more than once @fading kiln...
fading kiln
U didnt say it more than once but okay
willow plover
He did xD
forest rover
Also @willow plover about this https://discordapp.com/channels/414179354814185498/416576750991048705/673143179406737431 it seems interesting, what do you think about adding more roles? Like witch if their potion protected? Also what about adding that if the player (seer, aura seer...) didn't check the yare not able to use that snippet next day?
willow plover
Yep that's it. Thanks @forest rover
forest rover
@willow plover then what do you think about what I said about adding more roles like witch or disabling the snippet if seer didn't check?
fading kiln
Get away of the ww chat snippets lol -
"I'm Wolf Seer." If u say that ur gonna get watered and banned 😲
And also u could use chat snippets to cheat... when 2 unconfirmed roles are left and they both claim the same role, u (villager) could ask them to spam their chat snippets rly quickly so that ull know who's real and who's fake 😂
And chat snippets doesnt help at all
"Awwuuu" "hello everyone" "seers any info?" "IM WW" 😂
after that u get banned
lethal storm
Hey 🤘 it's been a while
When you send a random outfit to someone and they open it, the message below the "[nickname] has opened your gift!" Should be "They have received [name of the outfit]!" Instead of the current "Happy hunting and good luck!"
runic dragon
I couldn’t find the questions part, so I wanna ask when does season 11 of the battle pass start?
lethal storm
@runic dragon #questions <--- here it is
runic dragon
Thx
mighty granite
@fading kiln Well removing the ww chat snippet that says I am (r) and replace with werewolf is suggested.
Also when there are 2 unconfirmed roles, evil player could just add the "I'm (r)." without (r) and replace with another unconfirmed role and send like normal.
If they don't help, you can just edit them into something long and useful.
@lethal storm Maybe it's a good idea, but should we know what they got? like private?
lethal storm
What do you mean?
I'm just telling that the notification that pops up when the person opened the gift should specify what outfit it was
mighty granite
@lethal storm Well, maybe I was confused about something. I'll post that into #feedback-devs. Thanks for suggesting.
lethal storm
Np, thank you very much!
mighty granite
opal sorrel
The devs need to change the seer app so that when he is revved after the seer dies he becomes seer
Have the devs ever created a role based on community feedback?
Nvm found the #role-ideas-readonly channel haha
mighty granite
@opal sorrel Wait, about changes on roles you should do it here. And designing new roles go to #role-ideas-readonly.
Also that was suggested. Thanks for suggesting though.
latent saffron
Why can't i pay with a kiwi virtual card?
mellow brook
Plesase add one more wolf in game , the villager too much
latent saffron
Why can't i pay with a kiwi virtual card?
brave folio
@latent saffron please move to #questions for asking
@mellow brook that probably couldnt be added 😅 you can suggest something to make wws stronger instead
winged osprey
i think bomber is a bit too op as they can kill 3 people in one night but i’m not sure how i would nerf it
tardy magnet
It’s starting to get a bit frustrating playing with Fortune teller tbh. People just give cards to random people first night, and I’ve seen so many docs and meds get lynched or killed by wolves because of it. I’m really not sure if there’s anything to be done about it though because the role at its core pretty much promotes you just giving the cards to two randoms instead of thinking about what you’re doing first
slate heron
Всем ку
white isle
for every category it says 'none' except for the last one it says 'geen' (the game is in english but maybe because i live in the netherlands it is half dutch?)
arctic spindle
RL and attempted player getting turned imo is a bit bizarre and makes ww too op (KWW turning two players due to RL)
Ways to fix this could be that one of them gets turned and RL dies so when the med asks who they visited they tell them and they kill the turned ww
Hey guys, I have a way eSports could work in WWO and wanted to know people's thoughts. So 16 teams with 4 members each compete, and they pick one person to play in each round, and for each win the teams get they get 1 point for village win, 2 for ww win and 3 for solo win. The league lasts for 4 weeks of these 4 rounds and the top 4 go into a mini tournament.
odd wren
Another example of why couple shouldn't suicide when sl is killed!
It's very unfair to the couple and cupid
fading kiln
Can buying avatar with gold/xp get added. It could be similar to the clan quest where u have to donate and reach the amount of xp required, but for this u complete it individually. For this one, u could just buy an avatar with gold, hmm the outfits in the shop rn is equivalant to around 400g, so maybe make it if we use 2000g we could buy an avatar individually instead of getting it with the whole clan. :/
:)
night path
@winged osprey actually, according to winrate statistics the bomber is one of the weakest solo killers along with serial killer. Why? They can kill multiple people but they have to kill every other night which gives them time to get lynched. Their bomb can be only in a line and people have a night and a day to die, which makes bomber extremely weak lategame. Unlike corruptor, which is a delayed serial killer atleast they get space to claim. It is hard to claim as bomber and anyone opposing you, you cannot kill that night. Other roles get more or so a choice who to kill, where bomber has to choose a line and stick to it. However, any suggestions are welcome
@tardy magnet Sadly yes, there is not much that can be done about that. Even if we delayed the times cards were placed, fortune tellers would still force people to reveal ^^’. This was not the way FT was intended to be played but this is the most effective way. We cannot ban people for playing a role effectively. Suggestions are free to be suggested though 
sand chasm
I'm Brazilian and I'm using the Google translator if something is incomprehensible I'm sorry, in the matches that play (traditional), the jailer, priest, bodyguard and the serial killer.me took a huge sadness even adding: witch, mayor, beast hunter, avenger. the game was very boring and monotonous in my opinion.
IDEA:
it would be to make the exchange like, a game has the jailer but there is no beast hunter, a game has the serial killer and the bomber does not, there is a game that has no witch. this to make the game interesting ... add more things you have in the sandbox like the lady in red or the flower child, or even add a wolf that doesn’t have in the "sannbox mode".example: a wolf that makes the person not speak during the day and without voting too.this is my idea I hope you like it
night path
@white isle Hiya! Please contact a translator for your language to fix this . Feedback is not the most suitable place as the developers do not know every single language. Thanks for bringing this up though!
spare frigate
So I noticed that surviving but losing (at least as fool) rewards less exp than dying and losing. Could this be changed so dying rewards less?
night path
@arctic spindle Hiya! The red lady being turnt is part of her mechanic. Why? Anything that happens to the target happens to the red lady, hence why she gets killed when wws attack. This also goes for being protected by a TG, a doctor heal, fortune teller card, being corrupted or being shamaned. To not include the KWW would be unfair as the role “does” something to the player. I know 2 people being turnt is quite harsh, but it rarely happens and if it did not, this would not be fair on the werewolves. Thanks for your suggestion however! It is appreciated ❤️
@arctic spindle Regarding esports, with games that have different teams (Like overwatch) this works as one team plays one side but another players another side. For WWO this is different because people are randomly assigned a team, making all teams turn against eachother for their leagues . So sadly, this would be unable to work. Thanks for the suggestion!
sacred sable
Only suggestion I can give to Bomber thing is if you drop being able to kill 3 to 2, but they can choose who to bomb. So basically Arso except no choice on whether to explode or not.
night path
@odd wren Hiya! This is actually posted in #feedback-devs currently. Why dont you upvote it?
@fading kiln Buying avatars have been suggested and being looked into by the devs, they may be adding a “couple” feature where you can duo or single special quests! Go check it out in #dev-vote
@sand chasm Your english is totally fine! Games get rotated often, with different setups for sandbox and quickplay (sandbox every round) (quickplay once a week) with new alterations being added all of the time, eventually we can swap out the right roles to match the right wws/solo. Thank you for your suggestion ❤️
@spare frigate Important roles like seer who bring the most benefit to winning the game get targetted, along with outfit targeting.. this would be unfair on roles who contribute to the game. The dead are just as useful as the living! So I feel this would be unfair. Thanks for your suggestion!
astral pecan
It would be cool if we could choose the number of person in a game. Like a 16-players game, a 24-players game or... I don’t know. We could integrate more roles in a game like cupid or other new roles.
rich karma
since i was not understood yesterday: we as a big clan have a big wish: namely that there will be a total of 7 clan leaders instead of 6 as before, so that no votes can be drawn between the leaders
and if the same question arises as yesterday: we make a lot of votes: whether we accept new clan members, whether we kick someone, etc
drowsy yarrow
add option to sell role talisman, 5g for weak, 10g for average and 15g for strong role talismans
also make the talismans permanent upgradable with gold, like 50g for lvl 2, 100 for lvl 3 ext
runic dragon
Voll toll
white isle
@night path ah okay, but would i need to contact an english translator or dutch? because it's supposed to be in english
night path
Dutch, as all translators need to speak english well anyways
tall valve
tardy magnet
@night path I would honestly just get rid of the fortune teller role and switch with the sheriff or something, in the state it’s at I’ve seen it hurt the village more than it has helped honestly
fast sphinx
Maybe it has already been suggested but it would be good to add a category in the inventory about the ears 
formal socket
My "suggestion" would be, to remove the avenger from quick games. The most players don't know how to play with this role and they tag random people. This is annoying
runic dragon
They will learn somehow^
formal socket
Unfortunately, they don't. They mostly tag random people
formal socket
And, what about playing ranked game without username? I mean, instead of seeing people's username, you just see the number.
Why? Because if you lie for example, to win as solo killer or werewolf, they remeber this. You mostly see many of the people you played with again, and they sometimes are like "Kill 10, 10 lied for winning as arso, don't trust 10"
I had this issue, I won in a ranked game as arsonist, and I claimed witch in that game. In the next game some people recognized me and said "10 lied, don't trust 10. Kill 10"
runic dragon
Its 21:34
And I'm still not unbanned
I'm just wondering if the coded unban bot is glitched or people are unbanned manually.
rigid bronze
Did you try playing ? The message stays for 2 weeks after being (automatically) unabnned @runic dragon
cobalt quartz
I know this has already been suggested but I want to give another idea I got about the:
MATCHMAKING!!
Firstly,this matchmaking isn't structured for ranked and I thought what really should be used to create fair and funny match for everyone:
Experience Level,Win/Loss rate,Played Matches,Team with major win/loss.
A first division should appear from the experience level and every player will get a group like this:
-Level 1-15/20 is the group where new players only will be found;
-Level 16/21-35 where player are already enough good to play;
-Level 36-55 with very good player that just need an even bigger improvement;
-Level 56-9999 it's the pro group and they are enough good to have a fair match.
The game will search only player of that group,but isn't enough,there can still be player that aren't very smart even if they are level 100 so the matchmaking need another factor to search in: The Win/Loss Rate.
People with same percentage of winning,lost and suiciding should be put together,so this will even slightly remove the people that suicide often in match where people are trying to play,because they will go with other "suiciders"
But is this still enough?
NO!! The win/lost rate isn't so accurate in low level players that can have high percentage of winning but only cause they player 2/3 matches.The problem can be easily resolved by just matching people with similar numbers of played matches.
In High Experience Player group this thing isn't enough because there can be very lots of players with same general statistics but very different team statistics that could find hard to play with team they don't usually play with unlucky the player they are matched with.
So yeah using team statistics and maybe achievement too should help to make in high group very balanced matches!!
Obviously in friend matches you should be matched with only people that are only playing with friend too
next escarp
make a new item category, nose which will be below hair and above eyes, for nose accessories like piercings and tattoos that wont go over the hair
runic dragon
@rigid bronze
thanks
craggy dagger
@cobalt quartz I would suggest a mix of both levels and a solid win loss record as well for a tier system. You have really come up for a well designed one!
I’d have it work like this as an example
First tier: level 10+
Second tier: level 30+
Third tier: level 50+, must win at least 42% of games
Fourth tier: level 100+, must win at least 50% of games.
That’s simply an example, but it illustrates that winrate starts to factor in when you get to higher tiers/ranks.
It’s not solely winrate that is a good determiner of skill, it is winrate over many, many games.
runic dragon
I just got banned for shooting a person I thought was fool
cobalt quartz
@craggy dagger Yeah,you are right but still it's better if the game search similiar win/loss rate players in that group than creating the group with that win/loss rates,cause there can be some exception
But without some exception it's like the same idea
runic dragon
Hello?
Some ranked players can get really rude and serious when players make mistakes. Hatespeech is a real problem in WWO, mainly in Ranked. The current penalties aren't enough for players to learn their lesson. I'd like to request skill deduction down one or two league for hate speech in ranked. The only way to teach some players a lesson is by hitting their ranked. Players have alts now in the off chance they get banned, and banning is ineffective.
quaint bramble
@formal socket I think someone suggested adding in Avenger
anyone who random tags can be reported
it's an easy gt role yes, but people can learn
and best to do that is by showing people this role and not just having it only in rrv
@formal socket An option to hide names in ranked is currently being polled in the #dev-vote channel;
https://discordapp.com/channels/414179354814185498/441607711403278336/671681300154941440
formal socket
Oh nice, I really hope you will be able to hide your username☺️
quaint bramble
@cobalt quartz Hey we get ideas for better matchmaking regularly, I think the divisions you made are too small for proper match making though ^^'
In the end, the winrates are more important than levels indeed so the rest doesnt really help much
@next escarp There isnt much hair that goes over the nose so this problem seems quite rare?
I dont think there should be new item categories that will only affect a very small handful of items/combinations
@runic dragon Guardians can ban people, they cannot affect their skill points. This would make their job a lot more objective and complicated. I don think there is an easy way to implement a system for that...
runic dragon
Philip could help with that possibly. But he'd have to be on board. I doubt it requires much change to the code.
quaint bramble
More than you'd think, the ban system isnt something that happens within the app, and skill points are their own isolated part in the game
@Emme#9189 heya I recommend not shooting any players on day 1 unless you have strong confirmations or agreements from your fellow villagers ^^
If you want to contact a guardian about the ban, you can find a list of them in #ingame-reports-archieved
please make sure you include your username and appeal reasons in your first message
@runic dragon heya do you have any question or idea? Please post it in the according channel then ^^
(ow nvm you changed your name, didnt notice youre the same person)
agile glacier
I have a suggestion for a better reporting system. I am from Germany and I know how difficult it is for somepeople to write a report in English. Most of them do not write a report, because they have too little English knowledge. I would recommend that you can write a report in all languages and not only in English. I don't just think that this is only the case in Germany. I don't know if it has already been addressed, if it has already been addressed you can simply delete this post! Sorry if my english is not that good
quaint bramble
Even if it's not so good English, it's probably understandable to the guardians, since they can see the chat logs anyway
So always encourage people to report even if they cant speak English very well ^^
but translating a big part of all the reports would take them a lot of extra time...
agile glacier
Okay, I will do this
craggy dagger
Maybe X games played and X% winrate based league requirements?
Inevitably with that system, the highest league and other leagues will have to be fine tuned so there is enough people in each one
opal sorrel
Good idea, wins and losses should reset after every season as well
languid cape
I have a new proposal to the ban system too, if someone gets banned for hate speech. The guardians should consider the fact that there is a reason to why they are acting toxic in game. No one starts out cursing someone for absolute no reason, not that im saying that the person who is cursing is doing something right. I got banned for hate speech before because of the gamethrowers while I was playing ranked. Its really frustrating when you are trying to climb ranks and all of a sudden there is a gunner deciding to shoot the only confirmed villager and when asked why they say that they dont care. In all of my games that a guardian showed me that I used hate speech in, there was a gamethrower. Ok I get that my ban was justified but when I ask why doesnt those gamethrowers get banned the guardian tells me that they need to get 12 reports which is ridiculous. So people go on roaming ruining peoples games and not get banned unless they get 12 reports.
My suggestion is that the guardians should be allowed to monitor games at their own will instead of making them wait for 12 reports to ban someone.
Instead of making the people that used hate speech go to a lower rank I think that the gamethrowers should get their rank deducted. I simply cant express enough how much gamethrowers there are in platinum league and none of them get banned. I know it because I constantly see them everyday it makes me feel that the people in the lobby dont care about the game as much as I do. I see lots of people get banned for hate speech simply because they used the word ”NOOB”. So gamethrowing is allowed and seen lesser than hate speech? Or is it that no one actually cares unless you offend them?
I know most of you dont care about ranked but basically my feedback here is that gamethrowers should get banned more and their skill should get deducted + guardians should evaluate the game and not be required to wait for 12 reports to ban someone because they already know whats gamethrowing and whats not.
craggy dagger
Yumi is right, 12 reports needed to do something about gamethrowing is too large a threshold to make a difference to the number of gamethrowers
heady raptor
Totally right. Got banned for saying "nice boobs" for a dude
lethal storm
The chat spinnet window should not be openable anymore when you are dead
heady raptor
Why not? "Med revive me" - nice snippet?
lethal storm
I don't this snippet :p
runic dragon
How is it possible that this user is not banned/forced to change name yet?? I reported him many many times and his name literally reads Rapist. This is so angering for someone who had to deal with sexual harassment.
lethal storm
Yeah you're not wrong tho 🤔 there is the medium thing
@runic dragon hey, please contact a Guardian for this. Here is, below me, the list of the guardians
runic dragon
heady raptor
It would come in pretty handy if there'd be a notification that one of the players we recently reported got banned. I'd really recommend that.
runic dragon
🙄 I just met him in game and reported him again..
I am sure he is not banned yet
At least make him change his name.. this is so creepy and disgusting.
heady raptor
They can change his name, but some guardians are too busy reviewing real cases such as someone making jokes in a lobby. 
runic dragon
🙄 no shame on guardians, I bet that "job" which isn't even a job as its unpaid is very rough sometimes.
excuse me I have a little problem I just bought an outfit of the zodiac but I find only the grave and the background while it is well written that the outfit is included in the purchase price...
loud gazelle
@runic dragon for this offer, you get one foreground, one background item and a tombstone. No outfit included :)
Edit: I just realized the problem is with the direct translation of French's zodiac offer
languid cape
https://discordapp.com/channels/414179354814185498/416576750991048705/673304939522686977
I can summarize this into a #feedback-devs format if this wasnt suggested by anyone
median elbow
@languid cape I agree. I was told that you are allowed to "cursed" only if it's censored. I scream at throwing gunners myself but I verify everything is censored.
"Are you ******g kidding me? Why the **** would shoot the ONLY GOD **** aura"
I say they lol
languid cape
The only offensive curse that I said was retarded
Groot got banned for saying noob
Haters report you everygame with 0 reason except calling them “noob”
median elbow
It wasn't censored at the.time when you used it
languid cape
Noob isnt cencored but they ruled it offensive they dont even have a clear stance on this
Guardian guidelines is outdated too
I mean instead of focusing on a guy that called a gamethrower “noob” they could go and ban the gamethrower and make everyone happy
If you hate someone you can get 12 accounts to report them and make them get banned because they called you noob 🙈
median elbow
Supposedly mass reporting 1 user as a clan/etc. Will.get the reports bam however I've also been told a report has to be made on a player for them to get reviewed as well.
opaque pollen
@runic dragon @runic dragon Zodiac offer wording
runic dragon
Hello
brave folio
@runic dragon Hi ^^ Do you have any feedback for us? If not, please move to #wov-chat to talk about the game or #off-topic for off topic
willow plover
@forest rover https://discordapp.com/channels/414179354814185498/416576750991048705/673154906647035925 about that, it's possible disabling snippet such as target player and target role if seer didn't check. For more roles like witch i think i've already suggested that before (witch heal potion used will use snippets like "(tn) was attacked". For witch poison potion use snippets like "I've killed (tn)"). I agree with you
... better wait
cedar depot
Hey
Werewolf turkey from a survey I did on my Instagram
A questionnaire called report mark easy to put in place
I announce votes
It can be placed in an easy place like in the photo
To the left of the Share button
"rapor"
English = report
wanton prism
Can the rules be changed such that killing cupid before the couple dies is fair game, similar to killing headhunter before his target dies
brave folio
@cedar depot That has already been suggested and also posted in #feedback-devs ^^ Thanks for suggesting anywas 
@wanton prism That two things are really different. If you kill hh before the target dies, you can avoid being loss by hh. But if you kill cupid before the couple dies, nothing changes 
wanton prism
You won’t lose to the couple backstabbing you in endgame
brave folio
Even you kill the cupid, you still cant prevent the winning of the lover
tidal cloud
@runic dragon I am writing here because of your unfair bans. There are many people making false reports but you did not review the situation clearly before banning players. It is really annoying! Your "Chat with a Mentor" function is useless as well. There is no mentor online. I have been waiting for a while when it says the waiting time is estimated to be 1 minute! Review my case now or I will report your game on Google.
brave folio
@tidal cloud Hi, thanks for your feedback. Im really sorry about it.
But the fact that our guardians will always read the chat log before banning someone. Even you get many reports, but you didnt do anything wrong, the guardians wont put a ban on your account.
In case you think the bans are unfair, you can contact one of the guardian and talk about it. Read #ingame-reports-archieved
Also as a Mentor, im so sorry when we cant reply you as soon as possible. At the moment, we just have about 4 active mentors. And we have many things to do in our real life, we will take time to be on mentor chat, but not 24/7
Anyways thanks for letting us know 
marsh oar
brave folio
@marsh oar Do you have any feedback for us? If not, please move to #wov-chat to talk about the game or #off-topic for off topic
modest ether
Idk if this is the chat to report someone or not ?
spring hedge
It's not
spring hedge
Indeed
quaint bramble
@modest ether You should report players in-game, always ^^ We have a dedicated team of guardians who check the reports.
If its really bad behavior you can also message a guardian, check out the channel #ingame-reports-archieved for more info on what those things might be an who to contact
modest ether
Thank you I did report it but
Idk if its considered a reason to report thats y I am confused sorry
quaint bramble
thats fine, its best to report them if you think they broke a rule
the guardians will check it to see if its a true report or not anyway
spring hedge
Maybe read the rules to confirm
modest ether
Ok thank you
willow plover
Another suggestion
Easy report player using command
"/report" in chat (other player won't see you've report)
/report <name player or number> <type of breaking> [<optional desc>]
brave folio
👀 It would be out of the topic in the game
brave folio
Nahh It's ok I really appreaciate when you give us feedback even it's good or not Keep it up ✌️
night estuary
hihi can couples have their own priv chta
like at night they can either choose to chat with each other or do their normal jobs
cuz sometimes i want to chat with my couple and like decide on how to win, but it will be too obv in the day chat
brave folio
@night estuary that would make the couple be OP 👀
@high fable Amazing suggestion. I will add it to #feedback-devs
willow plover
April fools.... so many fool ig lol better not comment
normal wyvern
It'd be good if we could "silence" our private messages. Sometimes we just want to play and get messages from players even we are not in the mood to answer. The message still appears as a notification which is extremely annoying.
high fable
@willow plover I mean, the Solo Voting would always be Fool. If there are 16 fools, the village would win right away while everyone loses 😂
brave folio
@normal wyvern good suggestion I will add it to #feedback-devs 
normal wyvern
Thank you 
dense bison
Make the highly-liked things from #feedback-devs go to #dev-vote
normal wyvern
It'd be good if it says somewhere in this explanation that we are allowed to shoot, after night 3, random. I get accused of rulebreaking even I stick to the rules because it says nowhere that we can kill random at day 3/4/etc.
wanton prism
@normal wyvern you’re not supposed to shoot random even after night 3
runic dragon
In the image below, you can see that ww won but the surviving villager is a bh. This meant that the bh could've trapped himself to prevent the ww from killing him, but the system saw that wws won because normally the remaining villager and ww will have the voting as a tie and the ww will simply kill the remaining vill at night. Although, in my situation the ww can't kill the bh 'cause he put a trap on himself. Now, I'm not saying you should update your system 'cause if the same situation happened, the game could possibly go forever. I just wanted to let you guys know.
brave folio
@normal wyvern It would depend on different case then random shooting can be allowed or not, even after night 3. I will ask my team about it, thanks for the feedback ILY 
@runic dragon If wws = villagers -> wws win. No matter which role from the village left 👀
runic dragon
can we have a minimum gold donation required in order to participate in quests? it’s too much of a hassle to keep track and to kick members who do not contribute because they may be offline/busy/do not know how to uncheck “participating in quest”.
having this implemented into the game will eliminate the need for leaders/co-leaders to constantly emphasise and remind members to donate.
brave folio
@runic dragon Hi ya, I think it has already suggested before but i would like to post it again for you. Thanks for your suggesting
normal wyvern
Thank you anyways!
muted spade
Love the game keep it up add more roles soon and update the game soon i loved the last update
brave folio
@muted spade Thank youuuu for your lovely feedback, we will keep it up
runic dragon
How can i get the discord t shirt pls
@runic dragon
Yep
@runic dragon the problem is that i ve got the pink discord shirt but i don t have the one wive discord written on it
oh?
craggy dagger
Read the bot
runic dragon
The pink one with werewolf logo yep
hazy rock
Hi
runic dragon
Ok @craggy dagger
brave folio
Please move to #questions for asking next time
runic dragon
@brave folio sorry
brave folio
@hazy rock Hi ya, do you have any feedback for us? If not, please move to #wov-chat to talk about the game or #off-topic for off topic
muted spade
There is a game like wwo called anong us but instead you are on a spaceship andd you move around and do task. That means yall should beat the compition and come out on top
brave folio
@muted spade Ok so do you have any feedback or suggestion for us?
muted spade
Feedback
brave folio
What's that?
muted spade
To tell yall keep up the good work (in a way)
brave folio
Oh okay, thank you so much
brave folio
odd acorn
Hello, recently i've posted about a mistake in the dutch translation, i found about 3/4 more. i'm adding a picture of them but i'm not going to adress them where they could be found. this should be done by a dutch translator if you ask me (they did the translation and made multiple mistakes)
brave folio
@odd acorn Thanks for your feedback, I would ask them ^^
runic dragon
I think that banning for suicides shouldn't be only as now (like suiciding a number of times on a little period of time). I think the system should change, for example, it should ban people with high % of suicides (30% or more) and then warn them to decrease it. If they increase it, they get another time banned (like increase it a 3%)
.
What do you think about this idea? Because I find lot of people suiciding with 50% or more suicides and that's so much
chrome thunder
@runic dragon That's actually a really good idea in my eyes, let me check if something similar has been suggested, if not, I'll post it in devs
runic dragon
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runic dragon
I have a small idea for the game, you know how there is a cupid? Well what if the couple could talk to each other during the night, like the werewolf chat or the zombie chat but for the couple? (Sorry if this is a dumb suggestion)
woeful warren
runic dragon
^^^
If the couple were both ww then they could talk in the ww chat or they could talk separately in the couple chat (if that becomes an actual thing)
lament knoll
Heyy @runic dragon
That's not dumb at all 
We got this suggestion a couple of times already but unfortunately it got rejected because you would be having, let's say as medium, and you get coupled, you would be having a medium, a village chat and a couple chat
At night you wouldn't be able to keep track of both the medium chat and the couple chat at the same time, same with zombies, jailer and with wws
Pretty much every role that has two chats already, having three chats would also look too messy on the chat bar
Also the function of the couple is being discrete, sending hidden messages or working out a strat without talking
Logically speaking you also can't be at your werewolves, with your zombies and at the same time at your lovers without your prior team realising it
Thanks for your suggestion tho, it is highly appreciated!
Have a good day 
runic dragon
Thanks for telling me! Have a good day too
reef pastureBOT
MittelKing-Zero#2599 has been warned
reef pastureBOT
MittelKing-Zero#2599's infractions
pallid merlin
Oh
Nevermind, I'll remove that 2nd warn
Sorry for that
ooor not, you just added another one so it'll stay
fading kiln
I think the previous role position was better... all random roles should go at the bottom like be4
runic dragon
so who decided to remove my language (Latvian)?
it's not there after the update
it ain't that much of a problem for me, but why remove it?
if yall need help translating i can help
cobalt quartz
They got removed cause people Gamethrowed there
cobalt quartz
Anyway this isn't the channel to talk about this
Go to #wov-chat
Don't write here,if u don't have to give a feedback
fading kiln
Feeedback-
Can czech server be added back??? If it's not added back then i'll get banned for speaking the wrong language in english quick game
I need the czech server
cobalt quartz
Rose Feedback:
To make a differentiation between the rose "You can send only" and the rose "They send you" just make the second look like a coin.
A silver coin with a red rose on it,cause you can use that coin to but things,while the other rose will still remain real rose.
median elbow
@runic dragon I have 5000+ games. And 1% suicide. In theory I could just suicide a finite amount if times because I wouldn't get 2% any time soon.
obsidian pagoda
^
solar dew
since i was not understood yesterday: we as a big clan have a big wish: namely that there will be a total of 7 clan leaders instead of 6 as before, so that no votes can be drawn between the leaders
@rich karma
It would be nice if someone add this to #feedback-devs.
runic dragon
well, the system of now will remain but it will be worst for people who have a bigger %
@median elbow
obsidian pagoda
can u make it so when someone adds a question mark to your number it still turns red?
ex 11?.... if i was 11 and someone said that it wouldnt turn red
median elbow
Should have specified that. I don't think that's what you meant initially @runic dragon
runic dragon
It was something to add, not to change
sorry for not specifying
@chrome thunder could you specify that please?
dusty river
When we get a duplicated item, we get some money, like 100 to epic items, 500 to gold, 10 to normal, etc
median elbow
The tutorial is available for me. I disagree with 2 options here.
- Staying silent and saying you don't have information is a subtle form of game throwing.
- The doctors claims they have protected someone someday 3. However in this tutorial nobody is saved night 1 and 2 meaning the wolves might have gamethrown. If the doctor is saving people and claiming their saves then the doctor should be consistent.
spare frigate
I like your username in there
But if you don't want to give out that 3 is good and potentially getting her killed you might want to stay silent
runic dragon
@median elbow I don't think so
for example, when you know someone is good and no one is accusing him, it's better to be silent to let wolves to don't know who the seer is
will that be gamethrowing?
median elbow
Refusing to give information. Denying information to your teammates.
median elbow
I'd you don't want to pmost information at least claim seer ai the doctor protects you
runic dragon
and the information I have isn't valuable
sometimes doctor don't protect the seer
and bg neither
so it's easier to don't know who the seer is until useful information
(I think)
spare frigate
As long as you don't go more than about 2 days without saying something I say seer can stay silent if they don't have useful info
median elbow
This is a tutorial. Game throwing should not be encouraged. Not posting information is a form of throwing, especially in ranked. If you don't post information you are throwing.
Only saying "evil info" is game throwing
runic dragon
I don't think so, you don't have useful information
and wolves don't know who the seer is
so why to waste your live for no profit?
median elbow
All information is important. If you don't post information you are allowing a wolves to claim your role much easier. The doctor will be protecting a wolf instead of a seer
runic dragon
If a wolf does that, I will claim seer
spare frigate
-seer says 3 (doc) good
-seer is now a target
-wolves Check 3 to see how good they are
-see they're doc
-kill doc
-you're next
median elbow
You both need to post your information. If you don't have anything as a seer not an aura then claim you are the seer but someone died. The wolves can find you at random n2
Why would the wolves double check a play. The wolves seer is a noob in that scenario.
Let go to #wov-chat for now
languid cape
Not giving information as an informer should be a bannable offense
Change my mind.
median elbow
Ww berserk is confirmed to be in game as it is present on the roles list. That's the only exception to me. @languid cape
languid cape
Even if there is ww berserk in game, not claiming = letting people fake claim your role. But for sandbox yeah I guess since no one fakes a role there, its not “too” bad I guess
But for other game modes its just straight out gamethrowing
royal ingot
I don't know where I should ask this question, so I'm asking it here.
I really enjoyed the puzzle today and I would like to create such a riddle myself. Would it be possible to run it on this discord once it is finished?
karmic canyon
Suggestion: Don't make tough guy HH target. My last game I was sk and I hit tg so I pretended to be tg and I got tg killed and tg was HH target so hh win.
languid cape
Thats same for all roles @karmic canyon someone can fake aura and get the aura killed but the aura maybe hh target
Someone can be fake jailer and get the real one lynched and jailer could be hh target you cant really change that
quaint bramble
@fading kiln I think this order makes sense, the random villager roles are part of the villager list ^^
@runic dragon heya Im sorry but some language servers got removed from the game because they werent active enough and/or used by players to cheat the game.
@cobalt quartz heya in #dev-vote the big poll that Philipp posted, one of them is 'make roses a different colour' so that would be like what you suggest? Go give that a 👍 if you can :)
@solar dew @rich karma heya I kinda see the point, but this could also be solved by picking only 4 co leaders instead of the maximum 5? Are there any other benefits to this suggestion? I am considering to post it no worries, just wnna hear a bit more about it first...
@obsidian pagoda heya this was already posted in #bugs-devs so hopefully there will be a solution for this in the future ^^
@dusty river Heya this isalready a thing in the game, you get gold for duplicate items, this little section is pinned in #questions in the gold guide too:
duplicate items : you will get gold for duplicate items from lootboxes
grey item = 5 Gold
blue item = 15 Gold
purple item = 50 Gold
gold item = 200 Gold
cobalt quartz
@quaint bramble I have already seen the big vote and already liked the rose thing,but my feedback it's more about "How to make the rose different" than "Make them different"
Cause I don't like different colour thing
quaint bramble
@median elbow Staying silent as seer isnt always wrong, its not considered gamethrowing. in non-ranked modes it can be done if they dont have info, or if they wanna avoid berserk for example. Only if they refuse to give ifo for a longer period of time, or if they dont counter other seer claims they are gamethrowing
I dont understand the second point very well, it seems like you are digging into this simple basic tutorial a bit too much
@cobalt quartz turning a coin into a rose isnt very obvious either, esp since we already have coins too
How about if the traded rose turn to gold, so it looks more related to coins?
@royal ingot I think you can contact a moderrator to apply for hosting a puzzle, I recommend messaging @meager gyro for this ^^
cobalt quartz
@quaint bramble Yeah I get your point,but we use that rose to buy things so if they look a like a silver coin it will make more sense.And it's enough different from the Gold Coin we are using
Normal Coin ---> It's gold and have a ww paw on it
Rose coin ----> silver and has a red rose on it
median elbow
@quaint bramble the wolves don't attack anyone. The doctor claims the save you day 3. Who are the wolves attacking exactly? If I said the first player I checked is the doctor then in theory the wolves should attack the doctor.
quaint bramble
@karmic canyon heya I agree with the reply below you, tough guy is not an instantly provable role so it should be fine as a target... Any non-provable role can be lynched because of lies and deceptions, thats at the core of the game ^^
The chances of tg being target and triggering their ability night 1 is very small, so the hh usually has enough time to get them lynched or shot before this situation happens
median elbow
The idea of hiding information in a gamemode like this shouldn't be a thing. There is no werewolf berserk. You are right, I did pick apart a tutorial but the flaws are there. This encourage new players to just not claim seer information
quaint bramble
@median elbow It's a beginner tutorial, I guess it shows that the seer is a prime target for them, so the wolves tried attacking the seer
Afaik if you do pick the stay silent option, it gives you a little blurb why this isnt a good idea
arctic spindle
Cupid chat needed imo as it would make the game a lot better for couples. For example if seer and ww are coupled then they can discuss things such as say I'm good etc. The same is needed for a sect chat as a sl can't currently ask his/her sect their roles and therefore can't claim anything, or ask say doc to protect them.
median elbow
If we want a strong non-throwing player base then we want to encourage new players to always provide information
It actually doesn't. You need to click on the question mark to see post information.
quaint bramble
@arctic spindle This is suggested alot but its very complicated, what if the lover is jailer, med or wolf? They have other things to do in the night
It would require changing every single role who does an ability at night, because their info appears in the chat box to them etc
cobalt quartz
I'm still waiting an answer :,(
arctic spindle
Maybe do it so there is more than one chat box at the bottom?
quaint bramble
@cobalt quartz I think for now there is no need to post suggestions about changing roses, since they are already planning on doing this based on the poll.
They might already have an idea at hand, or will ask the public later to come up with something
cobalt quartz
Oh ok,I will repost my idea when it will be needed so ^^
median elbow
So yes I do believe the tutorial should grey out make make those 2 options unselectable. It discourages hiding information and shows it an option but it still let's you that you should always post information.
^@quaint bramble
quaint bramble
i will have to confim first what it tells the player, if they pick the stay silent option
I think giving them an explanation after their choice would work too?
languid cape
Hiding information in ranked games is gamethrowing—
runic dragon
I don't think it's in all cases
languid cape
It is gamethrowing in all cases except sandbox and quick game where people cant be bothered to fake roles
quaint bramble
feedback isnt the place to discuss this, the rules are the same everywhere
people in ranked are generally aware they need to give info to counter fakes
if there is no fake info, it should be fine to say silent for a day
its still based on exactly the same rules of gamethrowing
cunning jolt
Dont play ads with no video since those dont double our xp or give us a spin
I won as bomber and im kinda sad to see my xp go
quaint bramble
@cunning jolt sounds like you had connection problems then, or a bug with the ad
watching ads to double xp usually works fine, so please dont post this kind of accusations, but rather post it in the correct channel, with a screenshot: #bugs-readonly
rare fable
Not sure if this could be changed. But really sucks for cupid to not win when the player's couples succeeded. :/ Otherwise there is legit no need for cupid to be a role if you get what I mean. Of course the separate achievements for winning as cupid and couple are great, but overall, cupid and couple still work together.
spare frigate
Ongoing games button
If the game detects your character is still in a game that has not ended yet this button will appear. Clicking on it will give you a list of current games that you were in but that haven't finished yet.
This could be from:
-Leaving after death
-Disconnecting
-Suicide
-Your account active on another device
Tapping on a game would give two options: Rejoin or spectate. Spectate would be the only option if your account was still in a game or if you suicided. Spectating would show the regular chat only.
This could help prevent suicide issues if you crashed or disconnected.
forest rover
@rare fable once you become a zombie (or a werewolf by kww) you don’t belong anymore to the couple team and they became a problem to your team so you should try to kill them, it’s not gamethrowing. However, allowing a converted cupid winning with couple wouldn’t make sense because you’re not cupid anymore.
harsh ingot
#you should add a notebook to game to note down what players are which roles, not usually a problem to remember but for the games when 4-5 people claiming rrvs it could come in handy 😂👍
forest rover
@spare frigate I don’t think it’s necessary because if you leave after death it’s because you didn’t want to stay there, if you disconnect you have a re-join botton, if you suicide same reason as leave after death and if your account is active in other device you should be the one that is playing there so it makes no sense to spectate yourself.Thank you for suggesting tho!
forest rover
Yes, it appears in the left down corner and it has a werewolf icon @spare frigate
spare frigate
Huh I've never seen it thanks for the info
forest rover
It just appear if you disconnect tho, you’re not able to use it by suiciding or leaving after death @spare frigate
spare frigate
Ok I suspected as much
forest rover
@harsh ingot it has been suggested several times and we don’t think it is a good idea because werewolf online is a memory game and that would make the game lose a bit its essence. However you can do it in paper but we don’t support that. Thank you for suggesting tho!
rare fable
😩
rich karma
@quaint bramble so i can only speak of us, we are a big clan and glad for each of the leaders. everyone has their job and there is a lot to do as a serious clan! therefore a reduction to 5 leaders would hardly be possible for us. after all, it should remain a hobby 😉 so it would be very helpful if that would be increased to a total of 7 leaders
wraith lagoon
I suggest to zombie be able to bite ww but without ability to turn them. Other words: Replace "(number) couldn't be bitten" with "(number) couldn't be turned". So zomb won't know who is ww after biting, only after night at the next day. Little nerf for zomb
median elbow
Snippets should not exist, or role revealling snippets should be removed.
runic dragon
i agree with the last part @median elbow
median elbow
It's going to be the new cool. It can be an exploited strategy. Everyone send "I'm (r)" and the people that don't send anything is suspicious
runic dragon
tbh snippets can be cool but the role revealing ones make me turn my head. Maybe you would want to say "I'm Werewolf Beserk" to your werewolf team but I've accidentally clicked that button before during the day and exposed my role to everyone
forest rover
@wraith lagoon hmmm that seems interesting so I’m going to add it in #feedback-devs.Thank you for suggesting!
@runic dragon and @median elbow I don’t think snippets should be removed but I agree that it could be used to find suspects easier, but you can also fake snippets tho. Maybe disable them in ranked instead of removing them? Or give a pop-up when you try to reveal your role as werewolf, solo killer or solo voting?
runic dragon
forest rover
Check that @undone bluff ^ 😉
wraith lagoon
I always use fake snippets whilr jailed. But snippets are bugged, they used to go back to default after I add anything new
median elbow
@forest rover removing them in ranked is acceptable
I think it's going to be an exploited feature or under used feature
I suggest removing the zombe night chat. Or make the couple gain a couples chat.
Conflicting chats will be an issue but perhaps 2 chats can appear. Make them become interchangeable.
Consistency.
wraith lagoon
Are zomb so op? Well in minecraft they arent hazard ||unless there are 10+ zomb around you||
forest rover
@wraith lagoon that’s a known bug that will be solved asap, sorry for the inconvenience
@median elbow I’ll add it then to #feedback-devs, thank you for suggesting!
About removing the zombie chat, why do you think it would be useful? The couple one has been suggested several times, and the main reason is that making chats interchangeable is too much difficult, thank you for suggesting tho
vivid blaze
You guys have a lost it. Are you kidding us??
Triple seer, witch who can poison, beast hunter trap, avenger avenge, and bomber (whose explosion takes atleast one ww everytime) in the same game.... what a joke... you've literally made the game impossible for werewolves. And furthermore u refuse to remove random first night protection which just makes things worse.
I literally haven't won a single game as a ww since this rotation of roles came in... I can literally put it as impossible.
Once first day seers found 2 werewolves and they both got shot and lynched. The following night one werewolf got exploded and the last one was poisoned 👏👏 all ww dead in a single day.
And then in another we managed to find seer first night and boom. He was randomly protected by doc and next day the seer called out a ww 👏👏 absolute joke
Its funny that we talk about improving game balance and you just refuse to let go of your delusion and continue to make the game balance worse and worse...
The game as a villager is literally so so so easy it's boring. And as a ww I can call it impossible now. And you know what, it's no wonder so many werewolves suicide often.
Coz they literally don't wanna waste their time trying to play an unfair game
undone bluff
@forest rover thanks for help
runic dragon
medium is the actual OP role tbh
undone bluff
I think guardian is more OP than nedium @runic dragon
forest rover
@vivid blaze then which are your suggestions to balance the role setup?
undone bluff
Can we speak a language other than English?
@forest rover
median elbow
@forest rover thanks make that not be complex. Solo killers don't have group chats. Zombies are the only "killer" that has a dead chat.
@vivid blaze I disagree. I made my reason why quick play isn't balanced properly but the reasons you brought up I strongly disagree with.
I boost my stats legitimately in quick play and all the points you brought up are incorrect and invalid.
Both teams are balanced if you have STRATEGIES. Learn strategies and your chances at winning is excelled
forest rover
@undone bluff you mean here in discord or in the game? You have a lot of language channels here and in game there’s also a lot of different languages in quick game.
Also please next time use #questions
forest rover
@undone bluff check dms 😉
vivid blaze
@median elbow Shush. I have seen your points of view in the past which make no sense. What I stated is not my points, but in fact stats and facts which literally need some commonsense to understand.
And besides, your so called 'strategies' don't prevent 3 seers finding you. Strategies don't prevent poisoning or explosions. Strategies don't kill a randomly protected person first night. Seriously apply commonsense for once before always arguing with me.
wraith lagoon
Another suggestion is to make a new gamemode "Test" where everyone can test how role is working. It would be helpful for newcomers to practice in the "Test" mode before playing with real people.
The difference between custom and "Test" is you can't invite anyone and in "Test" there are only bots.
median elbow
@wraith lagoon that's custom
vivid blaze
And @median elbow. Stats speak louder than your delusions. Go yourself and check almost anyone's win percentage as village and as ww.
Even for an experienced player like me, my win percentage as a ww is only around 33%... so yeah... simple maths for once try using a calculator
wraith lagoon
Ww are weak tbh
fast sphinx
Maybe add a message when you adding someone, as what is there when you invite someone to join the clan
vivid blaze
They are. And furthermore this staff pointlessly refuse to improve that. And funnily enough continue to make village stronger and stronger
And I'm being dead serious. Once all 4 ww suicided first night and we won the game first day itself. No werewolf wants to play this game now.
median elbow
@vivid blaze
- if a seer finds you oh well. I agree 3 seers is extreme but not op with the struggle of quick play already
- the witch shouldn't poison people at random this is reportable for random killing
- the doctor protecting someone.. why does this piss you off? The doctor got lucky the doctor has a 1/12 chance of protecting someone. It's rare. Maybe don't skin focus people?
- the bomber killing a wolf 100% nope not accurate at all. The bomber kills 3 villagers normally.
@vivid blaze You have an instant down vote from me because you don't understand strategies and are acting very rude about this.
vivid blaze
@median elbow you're literally a headache to talk with...
About your witch thing I'm not even gonna talk about 'reporting' coz its bs now.
About first night random protection scroll up using my username we have had a discussion about it.
And you can disagree all u want but bomber high chance always gets atleast one ww.
@median elbow I know best of the best strategies. But do u think all wws do? Its technically impossible to make a strategy first night
median elbow
One wolf dying shouldn't be a problem. Maybe if you didn't stay quiet as a wolf and used real strategies you would win much more as a werewolf.
. 😉
forest rover
@wraith lagoon I don’t think it’s necessary because they already have a tutorial and if they want to know how every role works they can read their description or go to play custom roles, thank you for suggesting tho!
@vivid blaze and @median elbow please move to #wov-chat as Winter said if you have no feedback
pine jacinth
is it possible to stop loosing like -19 when im wolf while im winning +17 18 as village bro ?
vivid blaze
@median elbow I do use real strategies so as a kind warning stop thinking that I'm stupid. I don't come here for time pass.
median elbow
vivid blaze
@median elbow now please shush with your delusions for now and lemme speak with a helper
@forest rover please post on feedback devs to improve balance
wraith lagoon
@forest rover description sometimes confuse newcomers
vivid blaze
In terms of roles atleast
wraith lagoon
@vivid blaze you are too rude
median elbow
I already had a balance sent with much more detail. Click the message link. There is already feedback saying it's not balanced
vivid blaze
@wraith lagoon you can call me rude but I'm fed up of answering dumb questions.
vivid blaze
The dumb questions that @median elbow has been asking me.
wraith lagoon
Now let's listen Sheepy and leave this channel for feedbacks. For our own good
vivid blaze
Anyways yet again as always a conversation in this channel becomes a headache and is going nowhere. Bye bye and hope u all seriously grow up for gods sake
median elbow
Let me rewrite @vivid blaze feedback in more understandable way.
Wolfs lose to often. The village is strong. Make it so the wolves win more often.
- and there's more ways of doing this than removing doctors and seers
runic dragon
beta sucks
forest rover
@median elbow and @vivid blaze, so exactly what you both decided it’s the best solution to solve the role setup problem? In the case of removing first night protection in that case everything that happens in night 1 should be removed because that’s all random. I don’t think that’s the solution.
@wraith lagoon sometimes they can be confused, but making a test game with every role would be extremely complex because you would need 15 bots in every game prepared to do different things depending on what you do. It’s better to let new player discover by themselves how things works even if that makes the game a bit more complex.Thank you for suggesting tho!
@runic dragon any ideas how to improve it?
uncut tusk
@runic dragon ^ and please go to #questions next time ;)
median elbow
I suggested that the word "gamethrow" should not be allowed in usernames.
It encourages gamethrowing
floral heath
Some people I know put “gamethrow” in their name so that they don’t get targeted because they think that other people will think they are a real thrower and let them cause chaos to their opponents.
median elbow
@floral heath I am one of those people 🤣
I'm your friend on another server right 👀
I wish there was a way to specify if someone is typing and presently looking at the chat currently. This would be great for Clan Chat as well
median elbow
I think the whole quick play abbreviation assistants need to be toggleable in the game settings.
I claim hh (headhunter), 14 is a ww (werewolf), Etc.
Let's say I actually want these assistants to keep appearing. I would enable them in the game settings and they would keep appearing. Of course they will still automatically disable like it currently does but I think it would be neat to get them back if you really wanted them to appear.
Abbreviations that I assume are missing:
roles or phrases with • are important that need to be added
Rl - Red Lady
Bh - Beast hunter
Tg - Tough Guy or Target (for hh)
Mm - Marksman
• Jww/jrww/jr/jew (jew is a common typo) - junior ww
Gg - grumpy granny
• Pr - Platinum rank
• Bb - Bomber
Wwb/bww - ww berserk
• Wwk/wk/kww/kw - Wolf Kitten
• Rv - Regular Villager
Rrv - random regular
Rsv - random strong
• Fork - Regular Villager
Fc - flower
Gww - guardian
Paci - pacifist
Ft - fortune teller
• CP - couple
upper osprey
I highly prefer removing the notifications when you get into the game. I dont really see an importance for the notification to stay there. I literally had this "Howl! Come and claim your daily reward" Up there for 2 days in a row. I go into the game take my daily and it stays up there.
I request a removal for the notifications after joining the game. Thanks
median elbow
@upper osprey That sounds like it should be in #bugs-readonly I don't understand why you would receive notifications about claiming rewards while being in the actually game.
upper osprey
You didnt understand my problem. Also leave it for mods
median elbow
I was just redirecting you 
upper osprey
Its not a bug.
median elbow
okay boss ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
serene compass
a possible way to get less suicides and make high suicide games more playable: make it so that when someone or too many people suicide during night 1, the game just stops because it’s not fair if for example 3 wolves suicide. i know this will take more time and would be something to adapt to but sometimes games are won too easy because of suicides. (the restarting countdown also makes the game longer when people leave every time but it does help a lot)
i’ve seen this concept in other games (in league of legends for example, i know you rely on teammates more there than wwo but still) Id say about 4-5+ suicides to stop a quick game, 2-3+ for sandbox and only 1 suicide should restart a ranked game.
upper osprey
^ Add the option to surrender after 3-5 suicides villager
and 2 ww suicides.
languid cape
I think suicide punishments arent bad enough, if the suiciders start to get banned they wont even dare to suicide again.
upper osprey
Yes but in the case of the remaining people. They will absolutely give up and be upset about it
Whats fun when 5 people suicide? just surrender . dont have to keep the game going
languid cape
Yeah the reason why I think they suicide is because they dont wanna play with “boring” roles and its easy to get away with it since almost no one in sandbox and quick game report it cuz its like a norm in there
In ranked the players actually report, thats why you cant find that many people suiciding. They are scared of punishment
median elbow
Actually I am really for that suicide alternative. I can actually adapt to this. The 1 ranked suicide I strongly disagree with.
Reason: Oh I'm a wolf guess I'll suicide and see if I'm a villager next game
wanton prism
To add on to @languid cape point, once I played quick game and someone suicided( night 1 instantly). Then I asked the lobby to report the person suiciding, but everyone told me it’s not a reportable offense
So like maybe the consequences of suiciding should be better communicated
median elbow
"Wanna suicide so the game ends?"
"Yeah let's do that"
@wanton prism it's automatically reported.
Quick Play = Sandbox
Quick Play and Sandbox # Ranked
I am for this suicide alternative regardless but 1 suicide is op. 2-3 suicides should be the standard universally
brave folio
@median elbow For 1st suggestion, I think it's already not allowed 👀 Lemme ask a guar, thanks anyways
And the 2nd one, I will add it to #feedback-devs
@upper osprey You can turn off the notifications for the game in settings 😅 Also surrender shouldn't be encouraged.
@serene compass About your suggestion, if you play in a round and many games have suicided players, it would be annoying and you cant play any more. Do you think it's better to let people vote to stop the game instead? Then they can decide to stop it or not.
@languid cape The game will put an automatic ban on player if they suicides many times in a round
upper osprey
Yes i am aware of that. But i want the notification. So it reminds me of my daily. And players inviting me. I just dont want it to stay there and keep stacking on top of the other wwo notifications
brave folio
As I explained before, we always want to handle bad behaved players (include suiciding) but we need to make a good decision on when we can ban them. Many ppl complain about the bans everyday tho @languid cape
median elbow
@brave folio If it's not allowed why allow it. My current temporary ign is GAMETHROWS it should ultimately be disabled it's a bannable name.
languid cape
Then why do people still freely suicide in sandbox and quick game?
upper osprey
Its just uncomfortable when you already join the game but the stacked notifications stay there
brave folio
@upper osprey I dont know if the game can manage that 
I will ask my team, thanks anyways
upper osprey
brave folio
@median elbow So did you report them? With inappropriate username catalogue
median elbow
Why is suiciding even an option in this game. If it's not allowed why allowed it
languid cape
Exactly.
brave folio
Some people are required to suicide due to things going on that are more important in their real life than playing wwo. Some people suicide because they dont like their role and so on. These people already got punished by an automatic ban and suiciding can be even reported in ranked and they will be banned for a longer time. Reaching 12 reports can sometimes be hard, but if that person keeps going on with their rulebreaking they will be banned at some point tough. Yes it can be annoying but we they get punished for a ban.
median elbow
@brave folio that's my current ign. My current ign is GAMETHROWS. I am saying "gamethrow" should not be an authorized word.
brave folio
@median elbow I got it, thanks for suggesting
median elbow
@brave folio
- Real life events turn the app off
- You don't like a role turn the app off
Manual suicide should not be allowed
brave folio
It's already not allowed
languid cape
I understand that people have a life and sometimes they do need to suicide but still it ruins it for others and there should be a way around it. Plus thats such rare cases, the thing im talking about is that people suicide regularly if they dont like their role or just if stuff doesnt go their way
median elbow
However suiciding is allowed. If it wasn't allowed why put the button there 😉
languid cape
- they dont get punished enough for it, 10 minutes is nothing for suiciding in 3 games
median elbow
I will make a suicide alternative.
languid cape
Ruin 3 games wait 10 minutes also you can always watch adds to get around it .__.
brave folio
I mean suiciding not for any reason, just because you dont like the roles or something in the game is not allowed
languid cape
Even if they do have a reason its not allowed
brave folio
Well, as I said above, we always want to handle bad behaved players (include suiciding) but we need to make a good decision on when we can ban them
languid cape
So calling someone “noob” gets you banned for 3 days but suiciding in 3 games gets you banned for 10 minutes
What a joke.
wanton prism
If you suicide that many times it clearly isn’t due to real life events
brave folio
If you wanna suggest the banned time for suiciding should be longer, just put it here
languid cape
Nah I dont think the community would want it anyways cuz its mostly quick game and sandbox players here. Seeing that at least 5 people suicide in the game mode it shows that the people in the lobby clearly dont care and dont report
If they actually get banned then people would be scared
brave folio
I hope you understand that we do punish them, you just dont get to see that they got banned.
Thanks for your feedback anyways.
median elbow
Remove and replace the suicide button with something similar. What exactly? Easy..
Remove the idea to manually suicide. Allow players to "quit" however this will send a player to the main screen. Generally they will go to the play tab and to the gamemode, however in this alternative all the buttons will be greyed out and unclickable. There will be one and only one button that can be clicked, this button will be [Continue Game] and it will appear on top above everything else.
In the game chat the message will say "(n) Player has left they have 2 days to rejoin before they receive a small temporary ban from future games"
If they suicide "(n) Player has suicided (s) times within 3 days and will be ban for (t) minutes/hours"
^ @brave folio @languid cape @wanton prism
median elbow
If they are doing irl events a temporary removal of all games will be obsolete and not important to them.
languid cape
That would make the regular suiciders have to wait until their time is up to join another game
Exactly
If they have a real life event it means they arent playing soon anywas
median elbow
If they are leave because this role js shit then they can learn from their actions or keep playing and learn to like it.
brave folio
@median elbow That's a good suggestion, thanks for suggesting
median elbow
@brave folio did you read over the direct message suggestion?
brave folio
You mean the suggestion you asked me a long time ago?
median elbow
I wish there was a way to specify if someone is typing and presently viewing the chat. This would be great for Clan Chat as well
I'll repost it
brave folio
I dont see you dmed me about it. But thanks. I will check it
median elbow
I didn't dm you about this?
brave folio
Ye, you can check
next escarp
the more times a player gets temp-banned from suiciding, the timer should get longer
brave folio
@next escarp Yes, if they continue suiciding after being banned, they would get longer banned time. That's already in game now
next escarp
ohh
obsidian pagoda
There should be a thingy that you can open up on the side for when you know/think you know someones role/team
example: a seer says ''14 good'', you can open up the table and mark off 14 as good. Or, a seer says ''16 bad'', you can open up the table and mark 16 off as bad.
It could help as sometimes a ton of info comes in all at once or it can be hard to remember at times depending on the situation. The only thing is idk if there would be enough space for it as a ton of stuff is already at the bottom.
or idek if its a good idea lmao
median elbow
@obsidian pagoda do you mean quick notes?
obsidian pagoda
is that already a thing in the game and im just a moron
median elbow
This has been rejected by the developers.
Reason: It spells out the answers and the game should be based off memory.
dense bison
Zombies shouldnt see each other
vague urchin
I'm in a clan a quest is running and I can not participate, I donated gold/play every day yet the quest progression is non-existent, this is quite infuriating because I feel like if the ppl that are allowed to participate in a quest are not there the others that join afterwards are just duped,
Like I want to clear the quest milestones and even if I have to do 90% of the progression I'll grind it daily but at least let me participate in those quests if I donated an appropriate amount of gold to the clan after joining...
reef rose
?support
runic dragon
reef rose
?report
runic dragon
median elbow
@dense bison that's a fair balance. Remove visibility of who is on your team and night chat.
rare fable
HH's target is still active even though he/she was converted to zombie? Well, as long as the target dies, HH is villager, but when it's converted then what? This? I believe for zombie to convert HH's target should be like Kww. "Player can't be bitten (because ww or hh's target)". I should have put this in feedback. Still not convinced this isn't a problem. It wouldn't ruin the game for HH either if zombies were given that message.
median elbow
I like it this way
opaque pollen
@reef rose Do you need assistance?
reef rose
Found information on an online post, thanks
brave folio
@obsidian pagoda answered
@dense bison it would make them kill their teammates and also dont know who should be bite. That nerfs too much.
@vague urchin i remember that suggestion has already been suggested and also posted before. Thanks for your time
@rare fable thanks for your suggesting I will add it to #feedback-devs
runic dragon
Hey, i would like to make a suggestion that everynight we are able to change our skin.👀
brave folio
@runic dragon that would make the game laggy. And we should focus on the game at night, not to change our skins.
serene compass
@brave folio yeah i did think about a vote to restart a game but the team that benefits from suicides probably won’t vote bc it’s an easy win
pale oxide
You should fix your report system first, it's sucks. People think they won't get banned just because they spent money to this game!!!
So they can gamethrowe easily!
brave folio
@serene compass then i dont think it’s ok to stop the game 😅
@pale oxide People will still get banned if they do against the rules even they spend money to the game or not. That’s not the point. We have answered this problem many times. We always want to handle bad behaved players but we need to make the best decision on when we can ban them. You may not know that people complain about the bans everyday.
Also I hope you understand that we do ban them, you just dont see it. Thanks for the feedback anyways