#speculations
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First pack?
idk that one xd
Let me find wait a minute
o yea i dont hv the top two
i hv the rest including monster
blossom > music > monster > gothic > once upon a time
idk
I need blossomto come back
all very nice
blossom is a need
but alice bundle has every base role that i dont hv
so i use it often
only one i dont have is watermelon
gimme watermelon too
but i dont have lol
hahaha
Music > Blossom > Goth > Yokai > Fairytale > Monster > Sport > Watermelon
cutee
i dont think i want to buy anything anymore
i hv enough fits
n not enough slots
๐จ
screenshot this
only missing yokai bundle ๐
Ah forgot yokai
also sigma chuuwy when a new bundle comes "OMG GUYS I NEED IT"
STOPPP
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i dont hv many fits ngl
but i hv everything from this year and everything is CUTE
LIKE
CUTE
CUTE
including bp + clan items
I dont have
Blossom ( I will buy if it come back )
Watermelon
Sport
Monster ( I will buy of kt come back )
cute cute
Not much meh
leo cute
no
what u doing rn
204 fit I have
goddam
Not count male/female
smarties
Causr you have 165
smartypants leo
rco wha
wut ๐ญ
Blight
That fire icon needed
blight jumpscare
Yeah
random coll?
PEV = Perk Exchange voucher
DEV = Daily exchnage voucher
this clan q is the best
wow
I know I knkw

Do custom lobbies work for pk??
yes if u can make him appear
huh 
Where how
I just checked
No pk among custom game roles
Yeah
i think we are stalking salem a bit too much 
No, I was convinced that the bucket was only done in real games dw lmao
lmao
where do you get the mouth?
thats the problem


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Is it president is it president
WHERE
and its another info role
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Wait new role or icon?
role
Not a info role
Which family?
it prob be sheriff advanced bcz we have spy waiting for decades
For both new role which family @dusky perch you able to leak that?
Imagine If its spy again ๐๐๐๐
Spy with name change/rework
i cant know that but what i can guess its detective/sheriff
and the wolf probably junior
that is cool :3
Sigh I dodnt have any unlimited for any of those ๐ญ
Jww already has three advanced???

I think alpha or w seer for wolf advanced this time
just my guess
JUST GOT JWW MYTHIC LET'S GOOO
can be gww too
but no
i would say jww
yay
mythic blight incoming
Let me find
the mouth is fire
oh guess what!
Ohh from hh offer
President is out in quick game ?
okay noice
its another info role which makes 4 people to claim day2
like we didnt complain about how spy is unbalanced and now we get another broken info role
ok so next role is info role ?
we know about wich info role he is the evolution ?
like detect or aura
roar
Nah roarr u
broken morti

oh and its very known role for u
from tournament ofc #rt-roles-2022
really cute hh
yep
@dusky perch we're in the same game
I immediatly thought of moonlight ww
I'd retuning? I don't think so as they said "2 new roles" ,
isn't.
Omg this looks like frosty wolf @solid abyss
Me waiting for 
Me too , it was the best tested role
or
tree, I'm calling it now
And the weakest Wolf except for Reg WW
The rework was enough to bring back the role from the dead
But they still didn't test it
Alpha, Nmww or shamam based on the #dev-vote and appearance
I don't think they're making a tree with 4 advanced roles for now
tree 100%
and
trees received too much new roles in 2023-2024
all op
Swamp is rn
Not op , probably balanced

So it's really a new role ? Do you already know what he's going to do?
yes
Can I guess the name?
yes
Ghost Wolf
yes
Is it Alpha adv?
can be but i wouldnt agree on it
its gonna be op
really op
also its evil not unk
#dev-vote message is it this?
Ok it's not
advanced
So Nmww or shaman
I don't think so
They're the only left based on vote
junior actully do that
nww and shaman for info
or
then
If it's junior then gg
waaaaaaaaaaaaat
ghost and flouncer setup is too op
Would be too weak for 
And shadow ๐ซ
flouncer isnt weak
It should be 
ghost is an official ?
Or gentle
Unlimited?
"official"
Base role: confusion wolfs โ
i mean there is nothing mentioned in the description
Would work better with
, it would feel a bit weak comparated to
or 
that is random all
And it feels way too simple
Base role: Random, you can randomly get this Wolf with any other role
It's a perma +1
Nah, advanced role of random
It's a conditional +1 , but not a +1 material
Similar to 
It's hard to guess his strength as it's a new mechanic to the game but...
Wait will their vt doubled during shadow when they are dead???
Btw, new throwing strat, reviving ghost wolf
A +1 because you died is better (
)
Fr loll
should be yes cuz its still a vote
Based on #dev-vote no
And , no other role ?
are they already in the sandbox? or are they going to appear?
Idk
They are not in sb yet
what if all wws dead u can vote with rk ?
Imagine village getting mad at looseing because of this
#delete ghost Wolf on suggestions speedrun
And then Conju gets gr and also turns ghost wolf

he should have a voting limit, I don't know, to be able to vote only 2 times.
Omg actually its now possible for lurker turned ww to win with ghost wolf
is the new role real?
Wait... Aura evil?? So it can't be aww advanced right?
not cant but shouldnt
It does fit Jww advanced due to their criterie to ability activation on death
yeh and jww is the role manipulate balancing wws with villagers
kitten -> can get extra ww
split -> count one extra ww
jww -> take one with you
wolfflouncer -> extra vote
Guys, the New info will be Seer or Morti Adv as they have RSV tag in the code ๐ซ
Whats it's desc?
Imo Wolffluencer still fits Shadow tree better due to causing visible chaos in village
Searching rn
Alr
What if ghost wolf is base role tho?? Maybe base role of wolfflu?
actully no
shadow made for confirming 1 kill for wws by lynch or frenzy and toxic
huh where did you get that info
Magic
possible
Hm, well Toxic and Frenzy can do more than one fixed kill when timed well
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we cant know until its get in game setup
do you know when it will be released?
when phone users get the update
nice
Ghost Wolf is a must in Halloween
Do you have desc of the new info role?
The idea is so basic, it needs to be in game
trueeee i forgot that
Ghost Wolf looks like a xmas icon lol
yes
Imagine the chaos with Ghost Wolf and Confusion Wolf's Halloween icon together
It looks like frosty wolf instead lol
Can you share it?
just now?
Okay it's
advanced
we have just one for now ?
Please ๐ฅบ
Yes ๐
Wait, what new info role? Do we know more about it?
Ermm
Or det
No
Oooh, that's similar like the Easter Bunny fight event?
Poor sheriff, No one even mention him 
Scarecrow?
We love Sheriff
Sheriff ain't rsv
They're not releasing a new
advanced if they're already trying to balance an other
It's
advanced for sure
Maybe a det advanced with a different kit?
But I still want to see the difference
Am I really no one? 
But we already have 
whoops
this has to be alpha advanced imo
dont tell anyone about this ๐
Exactly what I said
Both roles have to be
&
advanced
How could Ghost Wolf be advanced for Alpha?
I said same but evil aura, not unk
i dont think anyone here mentioned that it's a new rsv role ๐
So it might be base role
yah...
but i guess it's either sheriff advanced or aura advanced :D
yeh this emoji
Yea, but spy's kit is checking if someone killed, there can be a det adv with a different kit
What if it's rl??? ๐๐๐
The description is so short-
Or new base role for seer app??
love the design of the role tho
jk ill just delete the message xD
cuz sheriff too weak for this role
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what's the info role btw
I mentioned it's rsv ๐ซ
I took ss of this fr
oh no you dont
Too late
I did
ah i think i should read message from the past more ๐โโ๏ธ
is it too late to apologize ?
extra votes
Maybe a base role for new rsv info tree?

new base role would be fire :D
alpha is +1 at night
stubborn is extra life
summoner is conditional extra life + win con
ghost is +1 at day, all the time

Firephoenix_03?
ghost is good for instigator ๐ณ๐ณ๐ณ
Well only Alpha has extra votes and even in WW chat.
you get to count as "extra"
Lol
like in general
What about Wolffluencer?
But why it's aura is evil instead of unk tho
i actually think ghost wolf fit perfectly with jww's tree
I still think ghost wolf will be base/advanced role of wolfflu
or maybe make kitten base and make this advanced ?
oh yeah i forgot about le fluencer

Wolfflu better
ah that one too

WAIT what if I have mythical jww :( will i lose wolffluencer
you can thank me for scribe icon i think
Well atleast you save the mythical/golden icon lol
i guess...
Atleast you keep other advanceds ๐
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i think legacy cards exist
I still own them
I might be one of the only player that still keeps them lol
i sacrificed my veteran gunner card for epic gunner card when role card is just introduced 
Rip granny forger wpaci illu berserk 
yeah; like that
I sacrificed theses ones #speculations message
Bcz I didn't knew how I got them
And just upgraded them lol
same xD
rip my cards, i sacrificed them all to get all 10 new Halloween icons + old leftover icons
i sacrificed them all into one mythic card โ ๏ธ
lm cuz i wanted ft icon lmao
wtffff
jeanne
i did not yet upgrade my first gold/mythical
i'm doing all events only with Epic lmao
mythic cards are so expensive ๐
should I ?
For icons? Yeah
for mythics
what's the small gift you get when passing candies back to pumpkin king?
lucky, you get so many mythics with that, did you buy cards..?
When cards update come I juste bought every role in game
and after I buyed also role card offer
And I have a lot of cards lefts
maybe 20 blue
130 grays
damn โ ๏ธ
and 5 or 6 purple
i got all my cards ftp ๐
ok no 30 blues lol
That's a good way too
but I think I want to do every gold on every role
but it's pretty hard
but i don't have much cards from doing that then sacrificing them into mythics
mythics are too expensive
yeah
i got 3 mythics from ftp constantly sacrificing my hard earned cards
ever since role cards became a thing
i broke on cards ๐
I only upgrade bonus
like I dont sacrifice my equiped cards
maybe i can do more than 8 mythics already
But idk
will there be a Halloween bundle, i saved gems for the moment โ ๏ธ
Sadly no, that's like 2 Mythics
and Killer siren
damn
I have 27 goldens
too many invenotry stuff here
I think you like xp perks ๐
So 27 Golds, 34 Epics
34 Epics = 6 Golds (1 Epic short for 7 Golds)
So you have 33 Golds
33 Golds = 8 Mythics, yea
ahaha
12 icon
7.5 icon
120 Grays = 40 Blues
30+40 Blues = 70 Blues = 17 Epics
17+5 Epics = 22 Epics = 4 more Goldens
2 icon
miam
With the 4 more goldens, you can make 9 Mythics
I will wait for Grumpy Grandma / Blight offers prob
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1 Mythic = 4 Goldens = 20 Epics = 80 Blues = 240 Grays
Was the new info role leaked yet?
1 info 1 ww coming
Yea, ik
The info role is rsv
I was asking if it got leaked
I am 33 Gray cards short for another Mythic :v
this chat is boring rn, show us some good stuff to do with Halloween or the new roles or something โ ๏ธ
(i been saving gems for a bundle so was kinda hoping there would be a new Halloween bundle with icons..)
Where is that ghost wolf guy
I can get 5 more icons from the Halloween event to have all of them
I just need CARDS
Basically 3 Epics, so I can make another Golden
So I basically have to get those 33 Gray cards ;-;
an another advance role card offer 
ayo
tbh its not nice
@alpine kestrel #item-previews cute racing
donโt like it that much-
True
OMG WHY THE ICON SO FIRE!!
the amount of love for offers and bundles this year
Yeah nice, but I'm not spending real money for outfits and It's not Formula 1 ๐คช
I have 4k gems ready for a possible gems offer, but nowadays gems are useless
Aw sheesh, not F1 ?
this still le best
Fr I can't decide which one I like the most lol, I have those icons aswell
I don't know the difference between racing and F1 tbf
I missed the cyborb icon
Formula 1 are cars
Cyborg Flagger?!
I forgot
cyber
There's race with something else than cars?
These ones are Formula 1 cars
Beside feet
Ofc
Different type of cars, or moto
to me car race are races that uses wheels
Nahhh fakeee cyberlagger better
Same fr until I saw my housemate watching F1
Ik ik
I still love the pride flagger
The summer one is cool too yk
@steady quiver whats your fav flagger icon nub
Wait, I fr have the Cyber Flagger aswell lol
Owollager and cyberlagger my fav flag icons
I missed it smh
Pride
๐ oh- we have le same fav icon on flagger- interesting
owollager?
Black pinklagger
Black pink lagger lmao

I wish that bp came back
so you can have it too
Wanna know a suggestion that is more than it?
||nerf/delete astro suggestions ๐||
Wut
It will be my next mythic
No deleting pls
๐ why you wanna make astro mythic?
when do you think this is coming back... i regret not buying it when it was out :(
why not
but thats not your fav role tho
I decided to get full chance on witch tals so that I can prevent random poisoners in the lobby
Ehem astro mythical โ witch mythical โ
๐ but why astro but not forger?

I am pretty sure yk how mythic cards work
Astro for nubz, forger for pro and skilled ones fr
Ik how it works but why astro but not forger xD
I just checked, I have 6 icons for Cupid (excluding Original, Golden and Mythic)
since when you have these golds
Why not upgrade jww mayor lm ect trees tho?
Uh uh
||was it me who was crying am poor?! ||
I have mayor
which?
I have priest ๐
what?
Jww maybe? If u like playing as jww advanceds?
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Mm is just better version of judge-
Yuh uh
bye
Judge goes for voting, Marksman has delayed attacks
Judge can't kill whenever they want
yea
Mm tho...
LM >>>
why lm?
this
but idm if i got judge
Lmao lm
Mm can kill both during day/night
yesss
Why not?
mm >>> judge
forky >>>>
nooo
mm > priest >>> judge
regular ww > alpha
Nah, LM better cause they can die
corr > blight
illu > all corr
everyone can proactively die by fleeing
Nub > Alaska
cant type smh
Depends tbh, if ww team weak then blight better but if ww team strong, then corr better
That's not dying, just running away like a coward
i think it's just >
i don't think judge is that sucked
whats your fav informer role?
judge only useful when theres tie
or noone votes
Nah judge >= priest
sheriff xD
casted vote but not enough*
I always fake as sheriff
what
Preacher with 4 extra vtes
Bell Ringer
enough dc for today
Best info role fr fr
||jk, spirit seer is my fav info role lmao||
pseudo-protector playstyle
but uh yes
Sheriff is an awesome info
pseudo
mythic bh or vigi?
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Pro
@empty tree it's a root word that derived from the Greek word "ฯฮตฯ ฮดฮฎฯ" which means "false". i use it here as a prefix

This flagger icon is actually a w
None
an actual flagger
Trap is just better bh
Judge >>
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mm >>>
you cant change my mind
mm is my love
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shush
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Astro is my baby
@half citrus
oof im not sure what I should consider ritu as
like it's just doesn't fit ๐ญ
Pumpkin face ritu
Snowman mask ritu
Party mask ritu
lmao
via "relationship" status
kidnaps Judge
Oh- I thought as role ritu
I ate sus today
Im also shocked
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Which seer is that #game-updates message
Regular seer
regular seer itself
Normal one
hmm
there's other type as well
not... only that one
Extra sustato
Why all tatos are sus
i just upgraded many cards to get the new icons, but i think im lagging cause they wonโt show to me?
Refresh?
i did
huh
Any leaks/info about the new roles?
yes
Ghost Wolf advanced of
or 
And a rsv info role
we have info about it
not you ๐
and it's like calling smth that one is obsessed with "one's love", specifically a game character
for me it's like not that crazily obsessed but prefer and enjoy it more than its base and the base itself's other adv role
they will be ingame soon
Wonโt the ghost wolf be a base role on its own?
wait fr?
huh
That's 99% sure
nvm
+1 gimmick
wheres proof
But it feels too weak comparated to
/ 
uhh are we sure salem didnt mean ghost lady
Can u show me the message
Problem is that it's evil
OOOOOOO
I don't have a message saying that , it's just a supposition based on the description
Don't have a leak about informer , but we know that it's RSV type
and no counter to it
Probably good for
advanced role but bad for 
pretty much
I already don't really like the role
i dont like it
Hope the RSV informer is good
100% sure it's
advanced
am i the one at fault for being disappointed every update
i bet its not
its going to be another op informer
thst doesnt appear in ranked
Because there's already
for 
and will terrorise sandbox
But most
informer aren't balanced
Only
is
And the new one won't be if it's
advanced
ah not the role offers โ ๏ธ they always cost real money smh
this real?
doesn't sound very powerful, it's just a regular vote by 1..?
you are right
am not sure even how it will work
it may work better during late game
so a way worse jww, except it's a vote, and you're not even guaranteed to be able to vote someone out.. i think it needs more work
What I think of that can be useful is:
One ww and two villagers left
And ghost ww helps last ww to tie and then win
Did the new info get leaked?
one ww after ghost ww dies..?
I'd say that is a very specific situation, doesn't happen often, cuz wws are usually out after 2-3 days
They may also help solo killer
Like 2 villagers left
One solo killer
It kinda encourages people to stay
Imagine helping cpl in a 3v4 ๐ซ
Thats also an option right
A role definitely playing for an evil alliance
this one is fine, not the most interesting role in the world but there is more to talk about than it seems
comparing it to split and wwflu isnโt really the best thing since its in contention with broken ww pretty much
jww is the baseline of balanced wolf
basically killing the ghost wolf has the same idea as split, you donโt really kill anything
just wolfluencer, but u have to die, and ppl don't see who's voting, but will likely know from the ww dead
because no matter what, the ghost wolf is always an extra vote for the ww team
its anonymous so the vote count at daytime can be wrong
Or any other evil alliance team
The extra vote can also be used when alive
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No better
The extra vote is visible for wolves only.
I think it should go like that on default
So that ghost wolf can try to say who wolves should kill/vt
By vting
But seeing wolf chat won't benefit ghost wolf?
Maybe make ghost wolf unable to see dead chat but see and chat in wolf chat?
Then it would be stronger than alpha
wolfluencer still sounds better, cuz it's stealing a villagers vote, although perhaps would be interesting when both wolfluencer and ghost ww ig
They can for example immediately out med
its anonymous tho thats how it should work
ghost wolf will obviously just follow who the wolves are voting
a good buff idea from me is that the ghost wolf can still communicate with werewolves after death
That's what I said...
i mean like straight up talk
i mean ur one makes more sense
i dont wanna use mine
cuz its basically what alpha does
to be fair ghost wolf should have all benefits of being alive while being dead
thats kinda the point of the role i think
Hmmm
Maybe let ghost wolf able to use private messages like alpha?
And make them able to talk with that even after they die?
at the very least night communication
like not private at day
but can talk with ww at night
also can hear alpha private
Also make ghost wolfs aura unk
yeah, that makes sense
That is just stronger Alpha at this point
It's a base role?
No
Ghost wolf is already strong
We don't know
It doesn't need any more buffs ngl
I am gonna pray that it is
Because if it is an advanced it is automatically the worst one
But it's labeled as adv ๐ซ
Yeah that's a shit role then
NGL it isn't
its adv jww cuz it has to die to use its ability
/uncreative
yeah it doesnโt get much creativity points
But it's passive
It just shows as it was advanced of 
They should at least make it base and kww adv
still the devs would put it there because of role tree similarity
Watch them putting it in shadow tree for some reason
Move KWW and wolfflu to ghost
it should've been magnetic ww
Wolfu would need to get a nerf
Kww would be s tier now
i mean from a gameplay perspective Iโd be happy with ghost
since I prefer risk free > high risk high reward
thats just me tho
We still don't know what the info is...
ghost wolf?
not all risk free roles are bad
look at baron from BOTC
basically already done damage at setup
can just cause chaos whenever
Look at Forky, no risk no reward and people have fun with him
isnt baron like the most broken one
so less pressure
people love it because its useless, and its a meme
yeah it adds 2 outsiders into the game for existing
i wouldnโt say its the most broken
like insti right
needs special setups
but its one of my favourites
it works in a lot of setups
adding 2 outsiders works?
@steady quiver
another way to think about it is
replace two useful good roles with shitty abilities
basically like a vanilla ww
arent outsiders people that harm
but the village have FC and BH instead of Gunner and Medium
good characters with abilities that can hinder the good team
they are more for balancing the good team
like if you claim your real role youll die
thats one of them yeah
I believe thats the Mutant
no jdea
Mutant (Outsider): If you claim to be an Outsider, you might get lynched
but botc has a way different balance system
its like putting insti in a regular setup
in wov terms
Guys I have ghost wolf buff idea
right!!! it reminds me of u immediately
Make ghost wolf die to traps first and appear tg first (make it least strongest wolf in wolf strength list)
This can help ghost wolf to die and use ability even faster
Best buff idea fr fr
Nawww ๐ฅน
wished it to be red
but blue is cute too
r u gonna buy it?
prob yes, yea ๐๐๐cuz i like the icon toa
thats weakest ww isnt it

Well ghost wolf starts working after they die
Theres nearly no use for ghost wolf if they are the only wolf left alive
Lmao, It reminded me a lot of an rol design I did
Lol they nearly are same
Btw was this for split icon?
dont tell me ... srsly? ๐since when
No, it was for a new role that I was thinking of calling "wolf lamp-maker" in which it has something to do with the ability of spirit.
Want the loot crate box outfits but why only 15% chance of getting ๐ญ
Oh alr
They were %10 chance last year
Lol
@dusky perch new info role leak when :> ?
Can we atleast learn their name ๐ญ
AND I GET 1 OR NONE
He says #rt-roles-2022 as hint ;)
Wait what if it's our role
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||RIP Shepherdess 2024-2024|| ๐
U will always be #1 in my heart
I really loved her icon ๐ญ๐ญ๐ญ
I just upgraded
to epic and got
yesterday and now Iโve seen this ๐ญ๐ญ
Oh

Is this true?
This count shadow aswell?
Im in same game with salem lol
the quality difference in role icons between these role offers and the icons we just got for halloween is wild ngl
Ft and witch icons really good tho
RSV informer that's all we know
which role tree could it b?
So we can report if tbst wolf goes afk when dying? ๐
anyone for bucket quest or still no one ?
I finished today
can help
if needed
i did not play yet wov with pk
since yesterday
i want to finish it first Time quickly
well our try took 28 minutes..
GL!
you did a try with random people ?
16 firend
with multiple clanmates
and clans

when new role?
were op
and
weren't
or
tree
what if gr took ghost wolf now there are 2 votes from deads
