speculations

[trail lake]

Help me

[obtuse folio]

final version 👀

i can get all my icons thx god

[spare harness]

Wow

Fine

[obtuse folio]

i'm happy 🥹

the best swamp is still this one imo

[dapper walrus]

there goes the list 👀

[obtuse folio]

ofc i need it 😂

[dapper walrus]

one day, you will stop make list for anything and everything

[solid abyss]

Nah nerd for life ✊️

[dapper walrus]

😔

[obtuse folio]

i do list for things i need to 🥺 that's it

[dapper walrus]

[obtuse folio]

i'll stop that the day where i'll have unlimited bpc and gems 😂

[dapper walrus]

thought it was already your case

or perhaps you lied 🧐

[obtuse folio]

😂

[dapper walrus]

can't believe you would lie to like that 😔

i would never lie about my ammout of gems

[modest mural]

hope so fr

i hope so**

[obtuse folio]

👀 i see

will a honor season start too soon ?

[opaque mulch]

why are you leaking screenshots from my account

[dapper walrus]

[opaque mulch]

[dapper walrus]

sorry i won't do it anymore but your quest are also interesting 🥺

[opaque mulch]

[solid abyss]

Acidently dobule it 💀

[dire plank]

What happens if we have double xp? 💀

[solid abyss]

Gg 😀👍

[dire plank]

We restart the game with this one fr

[next cedar]

So we had instihunter icon and now lurkerhunter icon huh

[dapper walrus]

[solid abyss]

Insti hunter

?

[next cedar]

Assasins hh icon

[solid abyss]

.d

Im wait for anar version 😀✊️

[next cedar]

I’m waiting for blight version

[hollow elk]

coming that fast whereas is still in testing is completely absurd, but it's not that strange as this role doesn't have much issues, except not being able to hide roles...

[next cedar]

Why limit role trees so much, hiding roles wasnt always the corr tree’s gimmick

[solid abyss]

Anyways delete it for know 🙃

[hollow elk]

What's the 5th option seriously 😂

[next cedar]

5th option is

[solid abyss]

Reveal all

😀👍

[hollow elk]

Why?

[next cedar]

Lurkerhunter icon

[solid abyss]

Irealise this

[buoyant patio]

This special thing confuses me

[solid abyss]

Speacials come frombp

Wing are tier 100 item , they git rid of 2 red lootbox from bp and repalce with 2 free item

[buoyant patio]

As if there were not enough items to fulfill tiers?

[buoyant patio]

Yea my thoughts lmao

[solid abyss]

Its a W chnage tbh

I hated when I get red lootbox

[buoyant patio]

I must agree, red lootbox are pointless anyway

😭

[solid abyss]

I wish devs will added blue ones but items were okay aswell ( if they would add blue ones f2p will gain +1 icon = 12 card per year )

[solid abyss]

Yeah I will start fight over those who want red lootboxes back

⚔️

[buoyant patio]

If you need extra pair of hands hmu

I mean i like grave so items are fine replacement for lootboxes

Better than gold coins or smth

[solid abyss]

Bro

I will cry

Lgames won 2 give away in a row 😭

[steep hinge]

Noice

[buoyant patio]

Theyre not the only one …

I was comparing lists hahahahahha

[obtuse folio]

why what

[solid abyss]

Lol

[buoyant patio]

[solid abyss]

I only want this cal for lurker icon thats why it didnt fit my cal buy creteria so I couldnt buy it 😭

[buoyant patio]

same

i like it but dont like it enough to spend gems on it

[waxen yoke]

sameeee, i really want an icon for my lurker, my plan was to not get the lurker from next bp if i win or get it if i didnt... psycho lurker it is 🫠

[quick marsh]

...except it is?

arso is ignoring protection and stacking
bandit is conversion
sk is the epitome of a killer with no abilities

[dapper walrus]

yooooo bp shop got leaked 👀

[solid abyss]

How you should consider buy a clander ? 101

You need to like atleast 15 item if cal dont have icon atleast 20 item

If icons 1 you should definetly like it if not atleast like 20+ item

If 2 icon you need to atleast like 1 icon or 20+ item

Extras

You can choose eleminate for emotes be bad or dont contain any day/night

@quick marsh I will eat you of you do ghost ping me

[quick marsh]

huh

[quick marsh]

wym all i care about are icons 😭

[solid abyss]

If items low quality you wpuld buy icon for

450 or 225 gem do you thinl thats whort it :?

In packs icon cost less then this and you will gain more icon

[quick marsh]

who said i buy calendars

[solid abyss]

1000 gem 10 icon pack

Per icon 100 gem

790 gem 6 icon pack

Per icon 70 gem

[solid abyss]

[quick marsh]

...

how is a single bundle icon 70 gems

its 133

[solid abyss]

790-380 ( outfit cost ) 410 -> 420/6 70

[quick marsh]

outfits dont matter do they

because then calendars would be the cheapest stuff

[solid abyss]

Nah cause you say you buy cals for icons

You didnt spesify packs

😴

[quick marsh]

i buy bundles for icons too

[solid abyss]

Then yeah its 133 per icon

[quick marsh]

goth bundle had decent skin but i was broke lmao

[solid abyss]

👀

I didnt like that much goth fit

But I like sakura ( even I dont like its 2 female fit ) and Alice in wonderland/Fairytale

[quick marsh]

different taste

ill never support skins that are the same gender

[olive prism]

it's a guy 🗿

[solid abyss]

😭 wait what

[olive prism]

U mean bundle with trapper?

[solid abyss]

Let me find sakura bundle photo in my galerry

[solid abyss]

Yeah

[olive prism]

trapper has long hair and outfit is to their image

[buoyant patio]

rich

[solid abyss]

Same to me

💀

[buoyant patio]

not me missing like 20 30 gems each time bundle comes out

[solid abyss]

And yes

I gove 100£ to game for my loves collections

[buoyant patio]

and then i collect gems and collection comes out and i buy hair or smth and i miss again

[solid abyss]

100% whort it

[buoyant patio]

and yea its loop

[quick marsh]

not one bit 😭

[buoyant patio]

i spent so many gems on nightys dark academia
and another collection idk whose it was

Wait lemme try and find it

[solid abyss]

I dont like

Pre talis or Custome game

So i will use all my 13.2k gem on Nightys collection

I buy 2x ( cause its a W choice )

[buoyant patio]

It included many shirts with butterflies which i bought obviously

And cow shirt

And pink hair

Im too lazy to go to wov to sc

[solid abyss]

The Shellz collection? start with F I think name

[buoyant patio]

Maybe

[solid abyss]

Oh

Nightys unwanted child 😂

[buoyant patio]

they dont have collection on their insta 😦

[solid abyss]

Its night 90%

Let me try to find collection photo

[buoyant patio]

Checked nightys insta as well

[solid abyss]

She didnt post on insta cause its her unwanted child

[buoyant patio]

I even checked wov insta and every collection is there but that particular one smh

[solid abyss]

Found it

This one right?

Pink hair and Cow shirt

Its unwanted child of Nightys

[quick marsh]

i love my ads

[solid abyss]

I love but simetimes they dont give when I finish solo mission

And I get annoy a lot of that so..

[buoyant patio]

Yes that one omg i spent so much gems on it…

[solid abyss]

I have 16 purches aswell lol

[buoyant patio]

And im hoping that it will come back some time soon bc i have more items that id like to buy

[solid abyss]

Its Nightys ( but its her unwantwd child so she dont put on insta )

[solid abyss]

You need to wait next mohnt

Prob

[buoyant patio]

( me buying collections when there are no free items >>>>> )

[solid abyss]

I like her other collections aswell

[buoyant patio]

Ye i bought dark academia

A lot of stuff there i mean

[solid abyss]

By cronogical order

Unwanted child ( 16/30 )
Dark Academy ( 30/30 )
Couquette ( 30/30 )
Dark Kingdom ( 3/30 )
Lovely Demons ( 0/30 )

[buoyant patio]

I thought its academia….

[solid abyss]

Idk

[buoyant patio]

Dont mind me being dumb

[solid abyss]

Real name

[buoyant patio]

I bought some from coquette too

I liked that pink hair with like a scarf or smth

But i rarely wear it now

[solid abyss]

Yeah academia

[olive prism]

#dev-vote

[dapper walrus]

OMG

i called it

[buoyant patio]

Few hair from dark kingdom as well

[solid abyss]

I plan to finish dark kingdom and Lovely demons aswell

[dapper walrus]

:O

[solid abyss]

.
Guys go 3

We need to know if its QoL or New roles

[olive prism]

genius

[dapper walrus]

im really happy i kinda guessed that feature 😌

[solid abyss]

Its going to be inetersting

It can help for report systems

[dapper walrus]

i love it

[solid abyss]

Take ss

And can pr9ve ypur inn9

[dapper walrus]

sadly it is only the 10 last game

[olive prism]

riiight I know that feel, one day I was mm day 1 "hey 14 are you sorcerer" and then next night I shot and he was ☝️

[dapper walrus]

but im happy with it

[sage delta]

Im happy with 2 or 3 just don't do 4 , 4 is obviously the anonymous mode we had in sandbox for a short time.

[dapper walrus]

you could check so much thing with that feature

so far it is a great update

[solid abyss]

Its feature for ranked games

[olive prism]

let's see what are the limits

[tropic blade]

finally logs ffs

[solid abyss]

But it can be open and closed so

Bad

[tropic blade]

will we be able to report players from past logs?

if yes its goated

[dapper walrus]

would be nice

[solid abyss]

🫶 it would be genius

[sage delta]

... Yea probably but you were able to try that mode in sandbox for a short time today

[solid abyss]

Cause I forgot report thrower sometimes

[dapper walrus]

we just have to hope

[marsh wyvern]

For some reason, the alpha in option 3 has regular ww eye#dev-vote message

[solid abyss]

Ik salem says its a feature for ranked

[dapper walrus]

and if it doesn't we shall go suggest it in #1052307374179885226

[sage delta]

Ohh okay

[solid abyss]

💀 I didnt relise

Normal wolf in alpha family ?!?!

[sage delta]

Why did u say that now I can't unsee it 🤣

[dapper walrus]

huh less place

[marsh wyvern]

Guys what are 2 3 4

[sage delta]

3 are role reworks 4 is anonymous mode that was available in sand today
2 probably back to the clothing rateing ig but no clue.

[solid abyss]

2 RP point system
3 Role chnage , Family chnage , New roles
4 For ranked player hide feature ( can be open and closed )

My guesses

[buoyant patio]

I agree on all these guesses

[solid abyss]

Point system is big W for alt acount problems

[dapper walrus]

there is probably some other change coming with the update

[solid abyss]

Yeah

[thorny spoke]

I don’t think 3 would be about new roles but maybe as u said a change in the family roles

[buoyant patio]

watch them return rainmaker

[marsh wyvern]

Tree reworks with balance changes would be awesome

[dapper walrus]

😭

[hybrid thicket]

Isn’t 3 blight?

[buoyant patio]

Didnt blight left sb

[dapper walrus]

maybe 🤷‍♂️

[solid abyss]

I think not

[hybrid thicket]

It already has a golden and mythical icon

[buoyant patio]

I mean blight was only a test role so for now doubt it

Wow

[thorny spoke]

Judging by the pic, no

[hybrid thicket]

Same when last role came in game

[marsh wyvern]

Don't add blight

[solid abyss]

But blight have peoblems?

It need rework

[buoyant patio]

Exactly my thoughts

Massive rework

[latent locust]

imagine they release and same update

[dapper walrus]

i mean it happened to gentle wolf, but gentle wolf didn't made it in game yet

[buoyant patio]

Or else it would be just: we added a role just to do smth

[hybrid thicket]

What were the last roles that got in game?

[marsh wyvern]

Siren?

[sage delta]

Siren and Anarch with Anarch being the newer one

[latent locust]

i assume it needs to be tested in sb first since it got reworked

[sage delta]

However id still count siren as fresh

[hybrid thicket]

Also swamp

Hoping that one gets a rework 😂

[buoyant patio]

Scribe tho?

[solid abyss]

If its family what the main feature will be of family

Converts
Bypass prots
Daily 1 kill
Hide roles

is not maych for any of the these family ( if its base it still have problems cause whats this family main feature ) new ways of kill spread ?

[dapper walrus]

not always, butcher only got one test got rework then added to the game without testing as far as i know

[thorny spoke]

already can bypass all protections

[solid abyss]

is still needed tests and chnages

[latent locust]

right

[solid abyss]

?

[sage delta]

What u want with Swamp change tho ?

[buoyant patio]

Thats what they said

[solid abyss]

Did I say something wrong?

[hybrid thicket]

Yeah I’m upgrading my corr card if blight is confirmed to get in game

[waxen pawn]

I make to hello Kitty wolf 🐈 (fan)

[hybrid thicket]

To be deleted tbh 😂

Voodoo and nww are much better

[marsh wyvern]

Imagine if it comes with an awesome rework tho lol

[thorny spoke]

I mean they can already do that rn? Unless I understood the message wrong

[latent locust]

this almost looks real

[hybrid thicket]

I’ll be surprised then lol

[buoyant patio]

Theyre saying whats corr house main function
And other solos

[next cedar]

Corr tree used to be about information, with corr being about hiding roles, illu being there to mess with informers, and ED there having an attack being based on an informer, only one of them hid roles

[buoyant patio]

Pointing that blight being base role doesnt have main function and doesnt fit any house also

[solid abyss]

is most likely to be in cause

A) Its tested once
B) They already get re-work early on this bp ( you can choose if you want to limit of voting will be upgraded or downgarsed )

[sage delta]

Ehhh i mean i agree but not because of your reasons Swamp is kinda annoying because it blocks all village day abilitys

[thorny spoke]

Oh right sorry 🤦🏼😂

[waxen pawn]

always try to respect the original design and wov drawing style

[quick marsh]

Im talking about the current tree

[marsh wyvern]

It only needs a white outline

[dapper walrus]

awww look cute

[quick marsh]

Pretty

[waxen pawn]

Yeah but... I have problem

[sage delta]

Its a white icon ...

[hybrid thicket]

Glad you enjoy it. But for me vodoo and nww are better choices to win

[solid abyss]

and have higer chanve ti be in cause family/base issue is a big problem

[waxen pawn]

This

[marsh wyvern]

Kitten has another white icon but it wasn't a problem

Maybe, make it a little darker white

[sage delta]

Yeah because it wasn't fully white it was a tad bit greyerish

[solid abyss]

If new family they what is the his family main power :?

And as I say in top he is dont be in any family

[next cedar]

Yet you replied to me talking about the previous tree?

[waxen pawn]

should i make 12 minecraft style role icons? 🤔

[mighty fractal]

Being useless

[solid abyss]

Lol

[mighty fractal]

SK, Blight and Siren will be in this family

[solid abyss]

family have 2 power
A) Hide roles
B) Dont let others revive them ( except )

cant do both

[marsh wyvern]

Basically opening claim space and/or deception

[sage delta]

Id put blight in the Sk family since it's really similar to canni

[mighty fractal]

Arso:
Bypass Prot, Mass Killing
Siren: After buff can do the first one

[marsh wyvern]

Nah

Just don't add blight

[solid abyss]

It can kill in day like illu but ?

Not kill in night

So cant be family memeber

[mighty fractal]

Blight is just reverse siren

[sage delta]

Illu hides roles that's why it isn't in Sk but in Corr

[steep hinge]

Nah

[marsh wyvern]

Alchemist kills at day while arsonist kills at night. It's possible

[sage delta]

Or yeah the Arso tree could also fit kinda

[steep hinge]

Blight is similar to siren but is definitely not a reverse version of it

[next cedar]

Everyone here limiting what role trees are about

[marsh wyvern]

Fr

[solid abyss]

A) Kill at the end of night phase
B) Able to kill players

A) Mutiple kills
B) Bypass prots

A) Dont let role info
B) Dont let revive ( exception )

A) Convert players

A) Mutiple ways to gain kill power ?

[mighty fractal]

Siren: Kill at night, Blight: Kill at day
Siren: Makes certain informers check a player Blight: makes certain informers not check a player
Siren: Sometimes is usefull Blight: Is useless
Siren: Makes evils win
Blight: Makes evils loose

[solid abyss]

But its still connected to bypass prots

[next cedar]

Thanks for proving my point, lol

[marsh wyvern]

Then we can say blight and ed are connected because both can get more kill

[solid abyss]

Base roles give what other memeber of the familys will gets ? So it need to be limit on the squeare of these rules

[steep hinge]

Blight doesnt really make evils lose

[next cedar]

You have to remember it is not the base roles that define their advanced roles, rather that advanced roles are made and then assigned to a base role

For a terrible example

[mighty fractal]

If Blight is in game wws hardly ever win

[steep hinge]

How

[sage delta]

Yeah id like a how also

[solid abyss]

Ik but how youcan connect blight to or

Like its not have a connection

[next cedar]

Information, what the corr tree is truly about

[mighty fractal]

Blight gotta tag unchecked players to get any value, at day 2 there's not many unchecked players except ww so Blight just kills wws

[marsh wyvern]

Ed can get more kills, so can blight

[marsh wyvern]

Blight has nothing to do with that tbh

[next cedar]

Which is why ED technically counted as corr adv

[steep hinge]

Blight and Siren are similar with the infect and entrance however they kill differently which makes it more similar to illu

[next cedar]

Besides it only affecting info roles

[solid abyss]

Guys let me be clear I didnt say blight mutiple kill ability is bad

[mighty fractal]

I said they're reverse, not similar 🫠

[solid abyss]

I just say its not enough to connect a family

[torpid sparrow]

Hear me out

[solid abyss]

Cpuld you ping me ? Cause I miss your msgs to me

[torpid sparrow]

No2 is honor season3

But you can downvote people

[next cedar]

Same for

[next cedar]

Weird, I thought I was pinging you

[steep hinge]

Well oops

[tranquil vigil]

Will be easily abused

[solid abyss]

I alrwady suggest and should be seprate family

😭

Cause not make sense in

[next cedar]

Oh I agree, but that doesnt mean that other roles cant be assigned to unrelated roles in the same way

[marsh wyvern]

Now that swamp blocks day abilities it does kinda make sense

[solid abyss]

Sadly

We could get new ww

[next cedar]

Storm was going to make sense as a nww adv, AND THEN SOME FOOLS VOTED FOR A CHAT CLEAR ABILITY INSTEAD

[solid abyss]

And / could be seprate family under cahos

[mighty fractal]

Make storm Nightmare the whole village for one night 🫠

[next cedar]

Interruption sounds nicer tbh

[solid abyss]

Idk cool words to use 😂

[marsh wyvern]

Swamp doesn't cause chaos, actually quite the opposite. Players can ONLY say info but can't do anything else for a day. That's not chaos.

[solid abyss]

I think need to be new family under ne ways to gain extra kills and its makes sense

[marsh wyvern]

And storm is easy to counter

[solid abyss]

Their fake vote ability was

[next cedar]

Thats why I said interruption fits better

[marsh wyvern]

Eh, not enough and it's obvious lol

[solid abyss]

And sometimes informesr couldnt give info and get raged

[solid abyss]

I always beileve those votes

😭

[marsh wyvern]

Skill issue

Swamp is just annoying

[solid abyss]

Det check 14#15 :d

[marsh wyvern]

And there's less chaos when the first ability is used

[solid abyss]

Is this okay ?

[marsh wyvern]

No

[solid abyss]

If will be new advanced his kills can be randomize to open role claim

[marsh wyvern]

No

[solid abyss]

Why tough

[marsh wyvern]

Do NOT add blight. That's why

[next cedar]

rng bad

[mighty fractal]

#1276294682778931262 🫠

[solid abyss]

I agree we need

[marsh wyvern]

Bro rework

[mighty fractal]

Downvotes speedrun

[marsh wyvern]

Yeah gentle is nice actually

I like the role

And it's original?

Well

At least more original than blight lol

[next cedar]

Somewhat, though the rework is more original tbh

With it being able to decrease vote requirement

[marsh wyvern]

Either way, any role is more original than blight

[quick marsh]

Blight belongs to sk tree

[solid abyss]

With new rework on this bp you can choose decrase or incrase

[quick marsh]

Can get multiple kills like edet

Cant ignore protection

Cant hide roles

= sk

[solid abyss]

The problem comes with

• Kill gain when cheked
• Able to kill at day ( Im open to this )

[quick marsh]

Arso and alche both kill at different times so its not a problem

[steady quiver]

Blight kills like illu tho

[solid abyss]

As I say Im open to this since its exist

[quick marsh]

Same with corr and illu in this case

[quick marsh]

Thats the only similarity they share

[quick marsh]

Edet is also able to increase its killrate

[steady quiver]

True if it shuffled the roles of the killed ppl it would keep the disguised part, but rn there is none

[solid abyss]

Eh but its kills at night

Srill

Chnahe 2 factor same time no no

[marsh wyvern]

You prioritize mechanics way too much

[solid abyss]

Its how this shpuld look from start

[quick marsh]

How is that a problem

[marsh wyvern]

Not really

[solid abyss]

->

[solid abyss]

Yeah

It should

[marsh wyvern]

No it shouldn't

[solid abyss]

Its not the peoblem he still have a connection to sk

[mighty fractal]

No

[solid abyss]

completly diferent

[quick marsh]

Alch and arso both kill at different phases and alch cant bypass protection

[solid abyss]

Yes

[solid abyss]

It can 💀

[marsh wyvern]

Also what is this?

[quick marsh]

Only once every 2 nights

[solid abyss]

to family

[rotund river]

dear lord when i got to heaven

[solid abyss]

It can still bypass ? It didnt chnage this fact

[quick marsh]

Its not like they will listen lol, blight will end up in corr family

[rotund river]

please let me bring my man

[solid abyss]

Its worst I would rather be on sk

[quick marsh]

Yeah they are too different with your logic

[solid abyss]

Its still have a cinnection with bypass

[marsh wyvern]

By your sense, this shouldn't make sense. Sheriff is a pseudo protector, seer app is not really

[quick marsh]

Blight would sacrifice kill priority and would be able to infect multiple people
Its a fair trade

[solid abyss]

Sheriff gain info when someine dies , Seer ap turn an informer and gain their history of infos + can use informer

[solid abyss]

When someone dies

Whats pseude protector flip thing

😭

[quick marsh]

Imaginary protecrion

Protection

[marsh wyvern]

Doesn't protect the player but punishes ww for being predictable,

[solid abyss]

Hm..

But still it can go to gain info when someone dies

[steady quiver]

LoL

[marsh wyvern]

Nah, their mechanics aren't similar

I'm using your sense

[solid abyss]

How so?

[marsh wyvern]

Because seer app doesn't punish ww for being predictable, you don't even predict who's going to die. You just save the information, don't punish anyone

[solid abyss]

gain info when someone dies
use deads player to gain info
get to turn informer and all their past check with + gain info

But I can see since dont gain info 100% of the time

[quick marsh]

This is awesome

[solid abyss]

But is shouldnt be advanced

[marsh wyvern]

Also by your sense violinist shouldn't be in sheriff tree, maybe Morti tree

Again, mechanics aren't similar

[quick marsh]

💀

[solid abyss]

I suggest before but people say its dont make sense

[quick marsh]

It doesnt

[solid abyss]

So..

[quick marsh]

Vio is weaker det

[solid abyss]

I dont like in family

[marsh wyvern]

Well I'd say they are similar in power lol

[dusky perch]

2 is muh

useless

[quick marsh]

Muh?

[marsh wyvern]

Well tg and seer app together does make sense imo

[marsh wyvern]

And morti is weaker det lol

[marsh wyvern]

Also i never said det tree, i said morti tree

[quick marsh]

Ngl this update is shaping up to be boring

[solid abyss]

guy atleast able to prot themself

While

cant do anything untill a informer dies

[dusky perch]

useless points

[quick marsh]

Morti is equal to det

[marsh wyvern]

Both lose in similar scenarios while bg wins

[quick marsh]

Atleast u don't gotta deal with annoying fool

[solid abyss]

No morti is better ( but slower on info )

[marsh wyvern]

No, morti sucks

[quick marsh]

Since when morti tree is a thing 😂

[quick marsh]

Morti can find rk day 2

[solid abyss]

Morti give direct info on attacker while det infos can effect by shaman

[quick marsh]

Ignore shaman too

[quick marsh]

What do u think it is

That ranked thing?

[solid abyss]

Morti is better but slower on info come so Det wins

[marsh wyvern]

Yeah, but other than it's similar to vio. Don't underestimate vio info.

[quick marsh]

Morti iis only bad bcs it finds weakest ww

[dusky perch]

honor but not honor

[quick marsh]

It should be randomized but nop

[quick marsh]

Vio info is good

[marsh wyvern]

Morti/vio becomes base role and the other becomes adv. Since we are talking about tree reworks

[tranquil vigil]

Good take

[quick marsh]

U can see disguised ppls' team

[solid abyss]

Yeah vio is direct upgrade to sheriff

[quick marsh]

I still dont think is vio is morti level strong

Morti gas guarantee info

Has*

[marsh wyvern]

Well i gave that example in liz's logic. Because their mechanics are very similar

[quick marsh]

Not rly sheriff can carry

[marsh wyvern]

But, vio should be aura adv

While ss and gambler leave the tree

[quick marsh]

Oh makes sense now

[quick marsh]

Vio is so much stronger than aura tho

Maybe ss since both depend on kills

[solid abyss]

Nah

Aura can get info evey night vio is depend on kills

[marsh wyvern]

Ahem ahem, spirit seer in aura tree

[quick marsh]

I gtg cya

[solid abyss]

Ss can be kicked out of aura family

🤌

[marsh wyvern]

Ss is stronger than vio

[marsh wyvern]

💀

I mean-

I do agree

But that's not why you said that

[solid abyss]

Cause like both family memeber gain info if prot happens but ss is sit in corner and cry to prots to not prot

[marsh wyvern]

Imo,

-> with a buff

->

-> (or the otherwise)

[solid abyss]

?

[marsh wyvern]

Base role -> it's advanced

[solid abyss]

and 💀

[marsh wyvern]

They are similar in strength

[solid abyss]

How so ?

[modest mural]

Det can not find solo easily as morti can (no hate tho just my opinion(i respecting others opinions)

[solid abyss]

Even in 1 day prot ss lose points

[marsh wyvern]

Plus they are already together rn

[next cedar]

Lm tree shouldn’t be interfered with, they all play aggressive pretty well

[solid abyss]

I get the not since depend on dead while is free

[marsh wyvern]

So you're saying ft is fine?

[marsh wyvern]

Well aura and vio are also similar in strength

[solid abyss]

is weird version of

[marsh wyvern]

Ft is broken

[solid abyss]

[marsh wyvern]

Ft has no place in lm tree, it's self provable

[solid abyss]

not even needed 😴

[next cedar]

Tbh I just play it the same as Lm in a way, more using the cards to try and get a true reveal than fake one

[marsh wyvern]

Like i said you prioritize the mechanics way to much

[solid abyss]

Sorry but its how I like to be in controll I dont like not make sense family conections

[next cedar]

So do you, somewhat

[marsh wyvern]

Not self proving is crazy tbh. Anyway, what i want to say it's 2x reveal and is self provable, they can just lynch you or shoot you to get 2 reveals and if they don't do that, you're automatically proven.

[solid abyss]

If family protize not exist then it will be pure cahos

I do a changes on similare mechanics

and same family as under night givers

[next cedar]

No

Just no

[solid abyss]

Since and is different

[next cedar]

They are already very similar

[solid abyss]

They are similar on papaer but habe freedom while depend on players

[marsh wyvern]

Well sometimes, but balance is more important. Vio in sheriff tree doesn't make sense not because they aren't similar in mechanics but because one of them is an informer while the other is a pseudo protector.

[marsh wyvern]

And vio info is quite strong

[next cedar]

The kill depends on players, not the protect

[marsh wyvern]

It's better in aura tree

[solid abyss]

You cant protect whoever you want srill

You just give someone permantert prot

But in cursed prot needed and if you give 2 shield you cant chnahe it

While witch can chnage

have less freedom compare to

[next cedar]

Yeah, thats called balance, a perma protect that lasts post death is stronger than a single use protect

[marsh wyvern]

Tbh with tree and bh tree are similar

[solid abyss]

?

[next cedar]

Yeah, technically you can loop jailer in there as well

[solid abyss]

🌲 #

They dont make snese

[marsh wyvern]

Witch, forger, astro, flagger and trapper are all very strong villager especially for rrv

Not bh

[solid abyss]

Since 🌲 not even ig

[next cedar]

Idk how to tell this to you but

[solid abyss]

OH its witch

[marsh wyvern]

Well yeah but it's already rsv, also it's a bit different because it can role block as well

[solid abyss]

I read tbh with tree family and family is similare as Im try to understand why tree should be similar to

[next cedar]

Man I wish people voted for witch to be rsv

[solid abyss]

I voted

Cause family is have right condition to be count as rsv killer

[next cedar]

since forger and astro are rsvs, and witch couldve received a small buff to be on that level

[marsh wyvern]

And also if you wanted to do a tree rework, some of these would be in the same tree.

[solid abyss]

A re work from start is best

[marsh wyvern]

Maybe forger and flagger together

[solid abyss]

👍

[marsh wyvern]

Witch is great already

[solid abyss]

But family cant count as rsv killers

[next cedar]

Yeah, but the small buff imo would just be a second healing potion, thats all

[marsh wyvern]

Nah

[solid abyss]

Cause they are deoend on attacks while all rsv killer have freedom

[marsh wyvern]

That's too strong

[solid abyss]

family always be in

[marsh wyvern]

Witch doesn't need a buff, it's easier to prove than forger

I mean kinda

[solid abyss]

should be in

[next cedar]

Yeah, but I mean, all of the witch tree is already easily provable so I’m not using that as a measurement of strength

Also astro deserves to be reverted to testing astro, that was so good of a concept

[solid abyss]

(RSV)
-> Reveal + Kill
-> Kill + Kill
-> Role block/Vote block + Kill

(RSV)
-> Role block/Prot + Kill
-> Role block/Prot + Kill

(RRV)
-> Protrction + Kill
-> Rol block (ww) + Kill
-> Protection + Kill

All rsv killers have 1st killing ability and 2nd have extra ability and family completly fill the conditions while family cant cause it doenst have freedom to kill

[marsh wyvern]

No, astro is the easiest while forger is the hardest to prove

[next cedar]

Forger is hardest bc it takes one day more

[marsh wyvern]

No

[next cedar]

Not that harder

[marsh wyvern]

I'll explain

[solid abyss]

@next cedar @marsh wyvern agree on this ?

[steady quiver]

No

[marsh wyvern]

: You need to kill a player to prove, the thing is who to kill. Shouldn't be an issue as long as village tells you a specific player to kill.

: You need to give a CONFIRMED PLAYER an item. The sword can confirm you even if the player you gave it to isn't confirmed, but that might harm your team.

: just use new moon and claim.

[solid abyss]

:> and reason

[steady quiver]

Det seer med are rsv

Misread

👉🤡👈me

[next cedar]

Yeah, but also if someone lies about it, guess who is an outed evil?

[marsh wyvern]

-> or bring back old astro

[solid abyss]

and Informers
Reviver
and Killers

And we talk about Killers

[steady quiver]

I got it

[solid abyss]

Oh lol sorry I was typing

Didnt see you msg

[marsh wyvern]

Not that. If you give your shield to an unconfirmed player(villager or non-villager) village can't be sure if you are legit or not. You might be duo

[next cedar]

Jailer and astro should not be part of the same tree

[solid abyss]

How old astro?

[marsh wyvern]

Og

[solid abyss]

What it does?

[marsh wyvern]

Blocks everyone

Including villagers

That's basically an extra day

And an extra kill

If the village is smart

[solid abyss]

But its not is better as ? But Night version ?

[marsh wyvern]

Also, day roles can use ability

[marsh wyvern]

Wtf

[solid abyss]

stop lynch everyone reamin same

I did t say it shoyld go

[marsh wyvern]

If used correctly og =

[steady quiver]

A doc ?

[solid abyss]

Chill 👍

[solid abyss]

Perhaps

[marsh wyvern]

Old astro could get 2 kills

[steady quiver]

Oh so just a witch nvm

[solid abyss]

But wjy didnt add og version as new role it would be cool tbh

[marsh wyvern]

+very slight protection

[solid abyss]

Well..

Im okay?

Since astro was unfaor to

[marsh wyvern]

I say old astro

[solid abyss]

I say old astro okay 👍

New astro is unfaor to

Only

[marsh wyvern]

Yes

Extra day phase can be very useful

[echo junco]

What are y’all thinking these are? Except 1 ofc

I’m feeling anonymous gameplay (maybe a mode?), tree changes, and a new crazy game mode based off of voting/stars or something

[buoyant patio]

.

[fallen cairn]

Alpha ww buff 🙏

[tranquil vigil]

#1052307374179885226

[fallen cairn]

Nah thats speculating

[tranquil vigil]

No thats a question

[fallen cairn]

Nope

[tranquil vigil]

You are right

[eager sinew]

are those bp shop items?

the bg icon is so funny because it looks so out of place compared to the rest

[mystic isle]

i think 2 might be some kinda system where you rate players

[echo junco]

Oooh like an honor rework?

[mystic isle]

possibly yeah

[pearl wasp]

that already exists and it's called stubborn werewolf

[echo junco]

Real

[echo junco]

That would be cool

[fallen cairn]

Meh its an advanced role. What I'd you get rrw alpha in ranked

[pearl wasp]

I'd cry

hope this helps!

[eager sinew]

a guardian telling ppl to cry is crazy lol

[pearl wasp]

you misinterpreted my message though

"wyd when rolling alpha rww in ranked"
"cry"

[eager sinew]

mb ig

[pearl wasp]

I guess I can rephrase to make it clearer

[tranquil vigil]

I thought the same 💀

Power of words

[pearl wasp]

I rephrased, rawr

[tranquil vigil]

Can I rephrase my warns?

I'll take that as a no

[pearl wasp]

I'm afraid not 💔 I can add another one though /jk

[tranquil vigil]

Another one is a ban 💀

Anyways I am here to discuss about anonymous play

[pearl wasp]

I was crow

[tranquil vigil]

Oh you reminded me of another thing now

I will do that later

[pearl wasp]

oh

[tranquil vigil]

Anonymous play means ease of sharing gameplay without public reporting

I think targeting can still happen as we can still view profiles

My chain of thought is all over the place

Guys now that we can see our game history...do you think we can report people from previous games?

This would be very helpful

I know I could have used this in my time playing wolvesville

[eager sinew]

is that gonna come alongside the psycho killer update?

[gloomy aspen]

#item-previews message

Huh ngl I’d spend all my gems on bp coins just to get the bloody siren icon

[tranquil vigil]

#dev-vote message

[pearl wasp]

its so good

[tranquil vigil]

Some of the icons are so scary they should make this game 18+

[obtuse folio]

why spend gems ?

[obtuse folio]

like ?

[tranquil vigil]

Swamp literally looks beheaded and there is a knife

[gloomy aspen]

Cuz I need to purchase 9 items from bp shop to obtain it so I would need to purchase coins with gems since the bp quests don’t give enough coins for the third icon

[pearl wasp]

violence is pegi 16 iirc

[solid abyss]

Yep

[pearl wasp]

but take it with a grain of salt

[obtuse folio]

i see, i dont like this icon anyways

[solid abyss]

What 💀

[obtuse folio]

my question was, why spend gems ? how many bpc you have rn ?

[tranquil vigil]

Can't unsee it now?

[gloomy aspen]

Er like 43 I think

[tranquil vigil]

Sorry I ruined swamp ww for y'all

[solid abyss]

Ineed spend gems to gain siren ay best

[obtuse folio]

lol

[solid abyss]

Ineed spend gems to gain siren ay best

[eager sinew]

be careful, i don't want wolvesville to go down the rabbit hole of censoring things and making items and icons worse

[obtuse folio]

or rush battle pass, you can win +600 bpc with bp

1200 qith quest

and some bcp you have

[solid abyss]

Im not a farmer

[tranquil vigil]

Did you play sandbox today?

[solid abyss]

I can try

[obtuse folio]

i mean, if you just play only hero game,

you'll win better and better xp

[eager sinew]

?

[tranquil vigil]

Anonymous mode had more than enough censoring

[solid abyss]

Tier 47 💀

[eager sinew]

anonymous mode?

[tranquil vigil]

Nobody reads #game-change-log in game or here

[solid abyss]

Its going to be hard

[tranquil vigil]

Proof of it

[obtuse folio]

it's possible

[solid abyss]

?

[tranquil vigil]

[solid abyss]

Eh..

Idont get unknown today

[fleet island]

Hello I am new here

[solid abyss]

He feels like little drunk

[fleet island]

:3

[obtuse folio]

welcome

[solid abyss]

Sup

[tranquil vigil]

Hi new here. I am Unknown

[fleet island]

Good, Bad, or Solo?

[solid abyss]

Im waiting for 3 am to check if a nighty collection came to the game 😀

[tranquil vigil]

Did you play sandbox today?

[solid abyss]

Yeah?

[tranquil vigil]

Anonymous mode?

[solid abyss]

Ranked feature

😀

[tranquil vigil]

Did you play it?

[solid abyss]

Yeah

I think its good

[tranquil vigil]

Phew

[solid abyss]

Idont play rankef

Its useless to me

[obtuse folio]

you're a really great designer, i really like your icon and wish it was a real one ^^

[solid abyss]

But good thing they try to do something for tnaked

[tough knoll]

hii i’m also new lol

[tranquil vigil]

Hi also new lol. I am Unknown

[solid abyss]

Why new people generaly lurks the chat lol

We dont eat you guys

Or are we 👀

[tranquil vigil]

They go through all channels

[solid abyss]

You need to be level 9 atleas to see some channles

☝️🤓

[tough knoll]

guys what advanced roles do u recommend to get first

[solid abyss]

Depends on your play style

[tranquil vigil]

Advanced of headhunter

In 2031

[tough knoll]

hmm like not aggressive but still enjoyable?

[solid abyss]

or or I supose

You can play agressive on claim force and can be enjoy

[tranquil vigil]

Villager or Wolf?

[tough knoll]

ooh okay thanks i was actually considering flagger

[solid abyss]

For villagers

[tough knoll]

villager

[tranquil vigil]

Baker

[solid abyss]

How so ?

I never see agressive baker

[tranquil vigil]

They said not aggressive

[tough knoll]

okay thank you!

[solid abyss]

Oh...

I read agressive

Let me think again

Then

[tranquil vigil]

Maybe you drink a little too

[solid abyss]

Can be

You will not forcable like claim space and support the village

[tough knoll]

ooh okay thank you so much!

[solid abyss]

I will suggest more on since you will turn to prot

[solid abyss]

can gain hate when not focus on game
could be annoying when font get ability

[solid abyss]

A haloween fit waste

😭

[tough knoll]

Ah okay perfect! thanks a bunch

[solid abyss]

Protector!!

Sorry

[obtuse folio]

xD

[solid abyss]

Omg I have sleepy drunk issue

[tough knoll]

oh it’s okay

LMAO

[solid abyss]

I never drunk but whe Im sleepy I act like drunk 😭

[waxen yoke]

Ngl most of these upcoming bp icons rly reminds me of those analog horror videos

[tough knoll]

😭😭

[obtuse folio]

but that's the theme xD

[waxen yoke]

Ikk thats why i really like themm

I can finally have some non cute icons

[obtuse folio]

for that point it's true

we are so used to see cute icons

that will change a bit for us

[solid abyss]

Idc about of its cute or not

I care about their uniqe feeling

[tranquil vigil]

So true

It should be unique and not repetitive

[solid abyss]

If 10 icon have same pallet and same design I dont feel like I get e reward but gain a progress

[tough knoll]

i rly like this battle pass icons tbh they have such a cozy and different design

[solid abyss]

Agree and Not agree

[tranquil vigil]

Cozy 💀

[tough knoll]

like

omg idk how to describe

[echo junco]

Love the baker icon

[solid abyss]

All knifes need to be gonne tbh
Bg need the feeling of burgler so maybe a trething knife can be add
Lurker is just color chnage almost mask can have blood feature
HH colour could be dark red instead of dark pink
Morti colour need to be chnage to yellow or white
Bandit teeth need to be fixed

[eager sinew]

i only mainly want 6 of the bp icons, i still hate how bp works now... i don't think I'll be able to get all 6 that i want..

[solid abyss]

Redish-Pinkish is okay not for all 😭 like bro

[echo junco]

I think it’s possible to get em all?

[solid abyss]

Nope at best 10

[eager sinew]

ik but i only want 6 of them

[lofty tulip]

no not without gems

[eager sinew]

specific ones

[echo junco]

Ahhh ok i never get em all I wouldn’t know

Bad system…

[eager sinew]

exactly

[solid abyss]

Its fair but I love old system

[eager sinew]

not fair, it used to be fair

[echo junco]

Same it was so good

[solid abyss]

You still gain same amount things ( exception of PEV )

[fervent quest]

I'm back

[echo junco]

Yeah but it feels sad cuz u don’t get all of em

[echo junco]

Hey I ran into you yesterday

[solid abyss]

Dev basicly said use money

[fervent quest]

ah. the topic is still the icons

[solid abyss]

Nope we came now

[fervent quest]

ah yess

[eager sinew]

half of these icons i don't care for, why can't i just pick and choose the icons, instead of having to go through icons I don't care for to get ones that i do

[echo junco]

I’m too broke for that

[solid abyss]

60% user I think

[solid abyss]

We talkabout family mechanics , what could be in 1 2 3 4 and how not make sense in or family

[fervent quest]

blight cannot be in the corr family if he can't hide the roles like corr

[solid abyss]

And talk about should be

[fervent quest]

it fits sk

[echo junco]

An sk role that’s technically not better in every way?? Impossible

[eager sinew]

also back to this, can u stop being a censor lover please, i really don't want them to start listening to your awful requests I'm sorry.

[solid abyss]

?

I want more blood

Knife doent male them cool

[eager sinew]

still

[solid abyss]

knife have same hieght

With icon size

💀

[fervent quest]

best decision is just don't release it yet, Blight needs alot of fixing

[echo junco]

Agreed

[solid abyss]

They add mythical and golden version so..

[echo junco]

If they release blight imma be mad

[fervent quest]

we getting another situation like FT

[solid abyss]

Whats censor mean?

✊️

[eager sinew]

and ur the same person that said the gothic cupid icon should be "normal" lmao ☠️

[solid abyss]

I said the wings should fell like chained and be smaller not flip like a dough

I say normal at first but then chnage my mind later

[echo junco]

Yeah the devs keep releasing such half baked roles like swamp wolf and ft it’s annoying

[eager sinew]

meh, still, u still asking for so many goofy unnecessary changes imo

[solid abyss]

Goofy?

Lol

You are just mad at me cause I dont think same with you

Its little unfair imo

[eager sinew]

it's unfair that u want to make icons worse and "simpler", instead of unique and cool ☠️

[solid abyss]

Some of my icons rejected cause of complicated?

[eager sinew]

example?

[solid abyss]

Sorry if I be salty when they are okay now

[solid abyss]

They are bigger or to complicated to be icon

Apearntly

[echo junco]

Yeah those are very cluttered

[mystic isle]

a

[solid abyss]

Or when they didnt add

Red vampire

Cause similar to acco but add a red bandit know with knie

[solid abyss]

B

[eager sinew]

now i get the first icon because there's multiple tiny objects in the icon, however i do personally think the other 2 could definitely work, also i tried asking to submit an icon a while bac and they said they don't do icon submissions...?

[solid abyss]

They dont get icon as sumbbits but get as inspos

You can dm and say you guys can use as inspartion

If they want use they will ask referennves

Or ask permission to you

Use some of your icon parts

[eager sinew]

oh, i see.. i didn't know that

[solid abyss]

AD shaman was our teams product as Wolf seer icon and they ask us to use Wolf seer icon for bone structure

And we say yes 👍

I generaly contunie on solo now but we are still a team since he have some jobs to do

Anyways new day come I hope a Nighty collection comes

It didnt sad

[obtuse folio]

this ritu skin is for the icon we'll have in next bp ?

colors are the same

[half citrus]

not really
since it has existed for a long time. in addition, the masks don't match each other

[lone spade]

isnt that one already released

or what do you mean

[half citrus]

that'd be cool if the ritu offer mask were an icon imo

[obtuse folio]

the colors look a lot like the icons from the next battle pass that's why I found it strange because I don't see what other ritu icon they thought of to create this skin

[olive prism]

I used red pinkish in my outfit, I wonder if it's linked prolly not

[unborn leaf]

the male hairs are mid but I like star killers hair

[vague heath]

Can we see wolf, bandit, zombie, jailer, warden, instigator, sect leader, alpha chat in the game history?

[silent vessel]

do we know when the meow collection will be out ?

[echo junco]

It would make sense if we can see all messages sent during game

[steady quiver]

my guess is next week on monday

[finite terrace]

NOOOOO

[steady quiver]

hi bby

[primal geyser]

YOUR WHAT WHAT

[finite terrace]

come nd be my priest

[finite terrace]

yes i m the hottest cai bot out here

[steep vector]

i guess the rating system will be included in the next update, any ideas

[short epoch]

rating noob player 1 star. Dont want play with them -))

[agile basin]

Cool

Looking forward 100 roles set ups

[dapper walrus]

oh 3 is crazy gameode

[agile basin]

(25 players x 4 drafts 😈)

My question is, will we see what roles are been chosen while we choose?

[dapper walrus]

omg blight

🫠

[agile basin]

I think it's a new role, the blurr

[half citrus]

#dev-vote message where we dropping bois 🗣️ 🔥

[deep swan]

disappointment

[waxen yoke]

lmfao i was literally asking myself, when will lisa post the next vote.. and i got a ping the next minute loll

[dapper walrus]

so 3 was the new game mode and not role change 🫠

[vague heath]

It even better than new roles I must say

[half citrus]

we are bamboozled once again

[dapper walrus]

😔

at least i got first one correct :>

[agile basin]

tbh those icons can be whatever lisa decides xdd I always get surprised with what they mean

[vague heath]

Idk how it works...

[dapper walrus]

i don't remember we got anything right on the dream bp update preview 🫠

[vague heath]

I will add bandit into the game :)))))

If I can choose

[regal nova]

told yall

[half citrus]

#1094039154742022194 message i think this one was its suggestion?

[halcyon swift]

The fourth one: is honor event coming back?

[vague heath]

Wow

[regal nova]

basically there's a d0 where everyone picks roles in order

[vague heath]

Yeah kinda

As long as it's fun

[regal nova]

I mean

as long as you sit thru the drafting phase, should be reasonable

[bitter wadi]

so no new roles this season

or 2 is gentlewolf/ rm

[vague heath]

Image draft 25 player room :))))

[bitter wadi]

honestly valid

we had no good roles

[regal nova]

i mean

we kinda figured

unless u meant being added to sb

[half citrus]

it honestly reminds me of the "draft" from among us in airship map

[bitter wadi]

draftings gonna be fire in custom

[half citrus]

true lol

[vague heath]

With me, it's ggd

[regal nova]

eh?

It's closest to goose goose duck's system

[half citrus]

oh yeah

[regal nova]

but basically how it's gonna work:

[half citrus]

you can choose one of the three roles

[regal nova]

assume there will only be 6 evils for example

once 6 evils are picked, there will only be villagers left over

[tropic blade]

me omw to form the strongest village known to man

[echo junco]

Me about to pick flower child to troll someone

And then getting flower child

[torpid sparrow]

"Town of Us" ahhhh gamemode

[mighty fractal]

I wonder, are roles like President allowed?

[granite compass]

Just for you to roll evil that game 😀

[steady quiver]

R u getting married

[half citrus]

💀

[marsh wyvern]

I will choose bh

[jovial crest]

How can I get this free emote?

Typing (wov) is not working.

"wov"

[marsh wyvern]

Use every combination with caps

[jovial crest]

I did not working either

[marsh wyvern]

After you type it, there should be a heart next to it

If it worked

[jovial crest]

İts not working

Wov , WOV , wov , WoV , Wolvesville, WOLVESVILLE

[marsh wyvern]

Then I don't know, that's how i got it as far as i remember

[jovial crest]

So maybe its in bug now

[buoyant patio]

Tried searching if anyone else has that problem but this is what I found only ..

And it wasn’t that long ago

[keen adder]

So no new roles, boring

[spare harness]

If you say WOV, it appears after

[signal crystal]

really? a patch without new roles again?

[jovial cobalt]

New feature coming out tho #4

[deep swan]

#speculations message

it just a speculation, i'm guessing we're getting blight 😭

[cursive brook]

wait last update didn't have a role?

[signal crystal]

Just ana i think

[cursive brook]

thats a new role

yeah they stopped testing many roles, probably blight will join coz they havn't tested any others

[lyric hare]

i think 2 might be honor season 3☠️

[fervent quest]

there's still that reputation points

[lyric hare]

i missed that i think

[fervent quest]

it's either coming this update or there's a separate event for it

releasing these leaks earlier than usual got me thinking smth big is coming

[lyric hare]

i was pretty confused because its still a week

Im happy if its not something like the cards update😅

[unborn leaf]

Drafting wouldve been fun if we got the roles we chose

[hollow elk]

has already golden/mythic icons so he has more chance

But in term of balance , ( if they include the rework) , has way more chance.

[primal geyser]

WHAAA

[obtuse folio]

oh the New crazy game looks like so cool

[dawn parcel]

so does gentle