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WOOOO
Preacher?
/
??
my idea was to just make it like corr/bully, where you can't send any messages
not really-
it's like when you get extra votes, you can choose to activate your extra votes or not
Yes the extra votes wont be active automatically u need reveal urself after getting the extra votes
can i get a cookie
I know exactly what that is
Omg conjuror changes
Also voodoo/gg 1x '...' is really chill
Thank God
Ahhh, to counter wolffu?
The preacher buff is fine, just didn't need it
Ah I see, we will need to look at this again
I didnt understood the preacher buff
it was already a balanced rrv (on the strong side)
Whats the buff, I didnt understand preacher one
@vestal shale
maybe 
yea I love it, prevents ppl from spamming and also prevents coding messages (which is cheating)
Probably they will be able to select none villagers roles like instigated seer and ect
basically, after first correct guess you become mayor
& that's it
Have fun, i explained how to do that, check the ping
Self reveal?
can you pls send the link of the blog?
yea
Oh
Not available yet
Where's the blog
Blog isn't out yet
There's no blog now
Yh
NO-
WTF HOW 4 IS NOT BALANCE CHANGE
How do we see blog when we have the bloggg
Preacher is now a REAL advanced role of mayor tbf
now faking preacher is undoable
But not huge buff as ft buff so tolerable
does
->
mean zombie will bypass tg
i assume 4's a dedicated rework to siren then
the siren change that got leaked specifically
ft should js be in mayor family atp
My main role got buffed
It does, probably
like bfr
ft is just buffed Lm
Fr
For example, if gr takes vigil and conj does too the same day, it'll say someone took it first and conj won't be able to use vigis abilities
Actually my main tree got buffed lol
Pacifist?
like it has the power of two Lms wtf
Hopefully they changed it
Btw what's 4 then
I wonder whatโs 1 tbh
We got trolled twice this time
Fr
icon bamboozling 
2 looks like new crazy game mode -> new role
3 looks like card updates -> role balance changes
Maybe a new game mode?
Doesnt zb already bypasses tg?
Hear me out
Siren mode
don't think so
It doesn't
Siren in chain reaction
No tg sees zb
Ahhh
uh-
yea, we got 2 alr
change ?
Maybe 1 is actually Card things?

And tg turns into zb instantly if revived
We got all of them wrong for now
No
, no
changes ?
Maybe itโs a siren complet rework?
Or siren in chain reaction
And more
It's not ,
just bypasses all protections and that's it.
we are getting so trolled rn lol
unless the zomb who bit the wounded tg dies
Cannot
kinda lame reveal if so
wait til 4 is new music
We already got the thing
Yes
Would be useless putting it twice
Revolutionary ๐
Why
is buffed ??
Could be
Fr
yea lol
ye 4 is prob new bgm
Thank goodness gracious, I'm so tired of getting caught by the n1
that's why we all on 1
Tg*
i hope 1 is indeed card buff then
Arso didnt need a buff
real
What is 1 though? Role cards rework?
It does comparated to 
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@delicate gulch @lofty tulip as explained above, the blog isn't out yet, that's the reason why I said 'will' -> future
Because
is op , they are buffing the whole tree...
Ehh Im happy with these balance changes as mayor tree (mainly preacher) main
No, it literally made bh weak
Arso buff made bh's only strength weak
I thought will like in 10 minutes ๐
Tyyyyyy
It will be announced in #game-updates and in game
Once i got an extra vote n1, i was so happy but then wf influenced me...
Whole
tree except mayor got a change ๐
So we can only wait
ye, it was fine when bh traps couldn't be bypassed
what happened to jelly
The blog is usually posted when the update is released
Tyyyy
Tolerable buff tbh
I ate it
Last time someone sent the link of the blog like a day before its release
I maxed vtes 7 times as preacher
A blog like change log?
I thought a real blog lol
FORTUNE TELLER BUFF
Ft broken again
That's something I won't disclose ๐
SIREN TOO ๐
I fr will laugh a lot if they remove ft again 
i hate ft now
Why broken? If you'll reveal a fake role before he dies it won't reveal u
either vanished into the nihility or will be explained further in the blog
Basically it turned into two Lm in one
What's the preacher rework about
yes why...
U can activate ur extra votes
Kinda like old ft
When u want to ig
You can activate your extra vote
Do they last a fixed amount of time or are they unlimited
Ahhh tyyy
You can still fake reveal as evil
It's just a slight buff against wf
Cuz if it's limited then it's trash
Fortune teller is barely killed by werewolves
no calendar yet ? ๐
or random killer even
Mhm
Soon
Not if you give ur cards and tell the players that got card to not reveal their card and ask someone to kill you
i have no idea what 4 is anymore but 1 is for sure seer apprentice/violinist/ghost lady/swamp/storm role tree change
Why gl?
It's -vill on purpose then
Cause wws/rk won't kill them but it'll waste a lynch/shot etc
Conju changes
gl fits bg more than rl
Y
Siren appeared in number 3 tho what the hell is no.4?
swamp and storm needs their own tree
conju and grave robber will get a change
icon bamboozling
Prob siren gonna be in chain reaction setup
Conju can talk in dead chat when turned into something
That is a giant cost for some info
Gr cannot take rsvs
No it's the same change
Nova cooked with this ๐ฅ
Hell yeah, finally scribe can become the most deceitful role in the game
That's why they put a slash
There already were players that vtes Lm to get info, with this change this will increase
whats that
Quest submission
Puppy
no more

Finally no more second gunner/vigi
FINALLY PUPPY i don't like cats
&
will have the same changes
Now I NEED conj
NAH WTF ITS ACTUALLY GOOD
Gr and conju changes are related
buggy moment
You restore abilities maybe
inventory system?
Uhh what abt jailer-warden then-
Definitely not
3 chats
It's not that change
Because both
&
have the same changes
Y Y?
Thatโs mega op
They are related
thats just reverting the nerfs from some time ago
*yeah
That's the only thing that is in common between conju and gr: not restoring inventories
/
changes is that you can tag insti/couple ww
That would be unbalanced
Iโm pretty sure Wov sโUI cannot handle more than 1 chat at a time
4 is siren rework?
Ah lol
It's not
Unlimited bullets
I hope they will add ability for recruit jww to tag wws
Its prob gonna be siren enters chain reaction setup
How would that work tho like does the symbol only show up for coupled/insti ww and not normal ww?
Wouldnt that mean jww knows which ww is coupled/instigated?
WHAT IF ITS A SIREN OUTFIT OFFER LMAO
the
private message buff was definitely needed
No I didn't want to write that
Maybe you tag a ww and they die if they are cpled instied
dont we... alr have that?
As instigated/coupled
you can tag others ww
now you can actually strategize
that conju buff is too op wtf
nvm
Ohh
conju is nice as it is
But as a normal
, you can't tag instigated/coupled WW
Only as instigated, not cpled
Sorry
As coupled also
Btw, imo sl buff makes him way too op
What are the unsaid buffs?
instigated makes sense, coupled not as much
Its kinda useless
Tagging a ww as coupled ww is basically throwing
rmb, it's just a "speculation" 
Apparently its the 'weakest' role in the role tree
u have to guess
Yes it is
If you die couple is not leading team anymore
Yes I forgot that
you can do similar strategies to
private messages
But ngl the private messages just ruin the creativity of instigator
Hopefully
Y'all get what I mean
why is noone talking about wolf scribe-
good change 
Ok
Instigator was a creative role with those private messages
If u r cpl jww and die, you canโt win as cpl anymore unless super unlikely situations, cuz Cupid canโt kill/do anything to be last alive.
Insti can kill, so tagging other ww to prevent instiโs death is reasonable
Therefore, only recruit jww/split can tag other ww
Its ok buff
what do u think abt the swamp ww buff guys
As I said, this role is now the most deceitful in the game
And I love it
Too strong now
it might be annoying but it makes the role more balanced
needed, it was so much weaker than its role tree fr
swamp buff is nice
only village abilities
can trick
with this buff 
didnt see that
I wish insti wasn't so op so it could get this buff #feedback-devs message
i read it too quickly
I hope we get a new leak before tomorrow
Thatโs what I was thinking, if you know that witch/jailer gonna kill you tonight just scribe self and ez
Blocking mm, gunner, priest, mayor, bully, paci, fc, judge...
Too much buff
Nah itโs fine
lisa is here ๐
astro's semi-counter
Nww blocking two specific
Depends on "when" tomorrow is for you
I'd say 4-5h
Ahh yes astros new moon as well
YAYYYY
good
Gonna edit this
very interesting
We are in the same timezone
Trade cards? Finally?
The role is also blocking
,
,
/
?
I wonder what are the unsaid role changes?
interesting , curious abt what 4 might be
Does
can block
?
We got trolled twice
Only vill
village abilities
it mentioned only village ability
That's good*
Nah thatโs fine
pretty interesting but we got bamboozled by the icon 
its better that it doesnโt block illu because its a solo killer
@thorny tree can't you just add the unsaid changes rn ?or we have to wait
If it was blocking
or
it would have been awful
Blocking mm, gunner, priest, mayor, bully, paci, fc, judge, astro, conju, ritu, forger ...
Omg
Too much
but welp, the game's description said "trust no one" 
Will anar have abilities?
It has
Icons aren't as straight forward than usual, I feel like that's better? ๐
You can cancel votes with a stick
I mean new, or will it stay
anarchist has the skip vote phase ability
Swamp now counters half of the village roles ๐
Nop you'll have to wait for the update ๐
It stays
Best update ngl
Nostalgia
3 days 
There are even more changes ? Some roles aren't mentioned at all???
We thought 2 was new crazy game mode, 3 was something about cards and 4 was balance changes. Now we have no idea about last 2
Buff wwf? @thorny tree
so many unanswering question ๐
welp, no more "vote x, not y" chaos at least 
it's like gambling in a gacha game now
She will definitely get into code and buff ๐
buff ???
Detective once said i = villager and then i dont # ww so that wwf shows as villager?
it shouldn't
Det was throwing then
if it does i would guess
are no longer immune to it
Which roles aren't mentioned in your opinion (and not mentioned because you heard there was a change or because you wanted one?)
Who was expecting that the uptade would have 0 new role ?
Who was also expecting 4 to be balance changes and 3 to be related with upgrading card / vouchers
, 
Jelly?
โ
Every day I understand less what the icons mean. But I dont dislike it
Me
i was used to the boring updates that had no actual addition
I don't think you'll guess them 100% either
They're also rather small compared
I was thinking 2 is new game mode lol
Probably cuz i trusted kitten faking detective was real one lol
I hope this update has a new gamemode
Idk, for det and vio u show as ww
I thought 2 was an all random gamemode
Just good aura, nothing more
Why u used anarchist emoji this time u always use emoji of role that not coming 
Alpha
Alpha needs it ๐
@fading fern
got powercrept
(afaik you unlocked siren so it'd not matter)
Alpha needs a nerf
I skipped toxic, jelly is not there, but will investigate to make sure 
alpha needs nothing
i doubt alpha will get any changes
For sure , 2 and 3 are really big , I don't expect 1 and 4 to be huge changes , may be new themes for
,
,
(4)
(1) For sure it's not going to be a role change
MUSIC YESS
Nerf alpha
1 can be tree changes
I was sure about toxic , but it's surprising for jelly , everyone was saying that it was going to be buffed

It's not that's sure
Which tree changes you are expecting?
Whatโs the preacher change from 3?
And 4 prob siren entering chain reaction mode setup
That is the reason ๐
Make it 0,5 vote at night and being able to send messages once a game
They get to choose when to activate extra votes
I still don't understand ๐๐
Buff seer
You trolled us
But they ask us about what should happen to cards we already own and change trees
shaman is literally seer nerf
Now seer can check wholeโs raw roles
ngl
raw role ๐
You trolled us well , I was sure that there weren't going to be a new role because you always use emoji of role that's not coming... ( Gentle wolf in may for example ) ๐ฅฒ
it's like a new thing that's better than an old thing while you can still play both of them in-game
Seer buff idea: Seer not only sees roles, but gets all information possible from that player. Role, team, aura, kill, ip address, credit card number etc.
Nerf rainmaker, buff seer
What role tree changes ?
Nerf president
ww op too, vill need buff
Trolled 3 times
- anar emoji
- balance changes disguised as role card upgrading
- siren entrance icon used for something that is NOT a siren change
wolves are now immune to
(real)
Owwww, yeah I had that with Alchemist
BRING BACK LOCKSMITH
W
Villagers too
sk's lose rate is too much, he indeed needs a nerf
I'll need to think of smth new for the next update now ๐
even cupid's wr can't compete with sk's lose rate
nerf the lose rate
Use storm wolf
Nerf:

Buff:

Nerf fc too op
Shrimpma's coming

bruh
is balanced actually
seer isnt even good
Yay
wym
i hope that icon too 
Yes but buffing him will make him op so buff him
imagine 1 cpn yall ๐๐ (spy can check 4)
card evolutions???
ONLY FOR 139.99 US DOLLARS
wov truly can't become cr can it
Profitable
yay 
Guys I was thinking about alpha buff recently, and since there is many ppl online I wanna ask
Alpha ww can kill a villager separately from ww team once per game, if that player performed any action at night, such as med revive, seer check, forger giving sword, etc. If assassination fails, you lose OR you role will be revealed to village
I made a concept once, just for fun
my
card is gonna get extremely and more powercrept after
enhanced themselves to
๐
i honestly would buy
Alpha needs a nerf
Pokรฉmon X Wolvesville
You can evolve characters and buff them and have more abilities
btw, big cliffhander I have with stealing inventories change ๐ฅฒ
is absolutely useless now
Cards evolution: every time you play a role x amount of times, the next game with that role will unlock the evolution
โ ๏ธ
because siren can do exactly whatever bomber can without a slowdown rate nkw
Maybe its just that taking the same role at the same time no longer duplicate inventories?
YOU ALSO GET A SKIN AND MYTHICAL CARD FOR IT SO YOU WILL BE 100% TARGETED WEARING THAT SKIN AND USING MYTHICAL ICON
they buffed bomber, he now sucks
Seer:
Cycles: 1
Ability: each night select 15 players to uncover their role
Nerf him and throw him to the sk tree
It's not free of course
new gamemode: giant crossword for 16 players, you can get the role you want if you find it
the power creep is insane aint gonna lie
50โฌ for each evolution
i would get 100 protection shields b buying so not getting targeted
bomber seriously got powercrept
so cheap ๐ง
We are becoming Wolvesville Royal with that one
10ร Value offer
im buying that ๐ค
It's 69x
solution: delete
(this wont happen)
Baker: Makes everyone has +3 votes and disable lynching minimum requirement
Philipp and flo consider adding this please
Solution: play TOS
wolvesvile gamemode:
U can go and play wov irl, so if you're a ww ull be mutated into one, if youre a rk then you'll become brainwashed into a psychopath
not yet
if y'all didn't play prebuff
you dont deserve postbuff
๐ฅ
Sounds good letโs play
I made this once xd
I'll use ww talisman and flee the village so I can be a furry
surprising we haven't gotten any cal leak tbh
Oh yeah and if they attack you they kill u irl
||pov: danganronpa||
is siren really a phychopath tho
is siren really a phychopath tho
Actually not a bad idea , but you need to balance it...
For example
: once per game , during you can select a second player to discover their team.
bro literally acts silly and drowns people
Dw I will take tg as conj and then choose other role ๐๐๐
Even that is op
they gatekeeping 
she makes them fall for her
how would she know its deadly
wwf buff I hope
Example: you evolve and become an eye, now you can see everyone's role but cannot talk (idk about voting)
he's right here
truly
it's called spectator mode without voting
Someone suggested role
God
You know everyoneโs role but canโt talk or vote
add this rn /j
so wth is it supposed to do
forced to be a spectator moment
Nice
Theme seems disrespectful to religions
Spectate๐๐๐
what's the point of it if you can't lead village
^
Fr
W update tbh
: you know the role of every player since the start of the game. If yoh die in any way village instantly win
Team: Village;
Aura: Good
Nah learning people's credit card numbers and passwords is way better than that
Seer: you just exist. Once night 1 ends, all the wolves will die
Night 1
The serial killer stabbed 14 (Seer).
The village wins!
Looking at all those evolutions and alpha nerfs buff seers I suggest start adding scps in wolvesville
Scp 106, every night you can get two villagers in you pocket kingdom, if they choose correct number between 1-3, they stay alive, but if no - die
no no really, imagine you can't see any role but see every action
No wait
Day 1
Get ready to vote!
The gunner shot 14(seer)
The village wins!
speculations has 4 phases
- i voted for [] skin!!
- cant wait for the bpc icon leaks
- [] is coming to test
- troll role/evolution ideas
truly a nwm tree moment
this happens every season
i mean... just lynch/kill them

Evolution ideas are fire๐ฅ tho
We are trapped in that cycle
@agile basin evolution ideas are nice
Btw, zombie tough guy change will be zb bypassing tg? Sounds fair so tg and flagger are the same type of info
dear god ive become one of them
exactly
Astro:
Cycles: 0
Ability: if you activate the new moon, all the non villagers get their account terminated
Lol
whats a cycle
Thank uuu
Tho I have some mistakes in execution, like role names I forgot to put in the right color
Butcher change: you can give x amount of meats every night. if a villager doesn't get any meat for y days, they die
Jokes away, split needs kind of nerf
Times to use that role in order to be able to use evo version
bring back the evolution ideas
Bomber evolution :
Good game mode idea
reverse famine from tos2
Split def isnt getting any big changes in this update though
We ban every account with this ๐ฅ๐ฃ๏ธ๐ฃ๏ธ
You can plant a bomb on a player, if player talks, one random player will get the bomb, and so on
whys that kinda bomb
Number of games you have to play with that role for the Evolution to work
so true
I have bomber evolution idea:
Once per game you can place a bomb on 3x3 grid and kill them all the following night. You can't kill after that
Sadly, it is much stronger than other in the tree
0 means that it's always active
Eh the problem here being its just a straight upgrade from jww
What about -1
Not possible/no evolution
Maybe it is never active?
Wym
Siren evolution:
Cycles:0
Once per game you can say "ara ara" in the chat,revealing your role to everyone. anyone who votes you for the next 2 days will be entranced
if you get lynched or attacked,you will redirect the attack to a random entranced player
The other player gets the evolution instead of you
the bomb
Please don't be role family changes ๐ค๐ซ
Bomber, bomb
why not
Please be
Oh pls be but handle the cards situation well
Hope it is
Unlike the last 2 times
It's fine as it is now, except storm and swamp
Uninstalling as soon as it happens
Vio to sheriff was ok but then they buffed her which made the tree unbalanced
I have a seer app Card and I like my seer app ๐ซ
no youre not
theyll be transfered prob
Imagine spending all money on mythical tree of any Role, and it gets nerfed so much/readjusted
Everyone will choose BG/tg so I'll lose my seer app
My lovely cards should not be touched
They WILL
Well was moreso refering to the inability to choose which cards u wanna take,
Like the sheriff role tree change gives u a rl card
are the potential changed
They make a poll about that tho
@bitter wadi still rmb BonBon's amount of cards or no? 
I only agree with storm and swamp
Asking us what should happen to the cards
Bomber change: give bombs to x people every day, they can choose to give the bomb another while you can mute (but they can vote) x amount of people. If a person is muted but have bomb they explode. If y amount of people send the bomb to you, they all explode
oh yeah i do
scary
btw, the wink in the role changes list means something or its just lisa being nasty?
I would rather have something implement to choose one instead of it being forced on a poll tbh
How many
this one right
Still guys, what are your bets on 1?
tree changes
it's the old one i think
Philipp giving free cards for everyone here!!
Lisa is trolling us, every hidden detail you see is fake
Anarchist emojj?? Fake
She is just sending random role emojis to see us react ๐
4 will be rk music
wonder when this will have a decent concept
Evolution
:
Cycles: 0
Twice per game you can activate your ability. This will double every wolves votes, shuffle all alive players' position, remove the chat, hide votes, prevent anyone from talking, kill a random villager, reveal a player's role to all the wolves', steal their ablilities, convert 3 players rabdomly, ban a random player for a random amount of time, steal a random player's credit card, kill irl a random player and make the planet Earth explode
thats actually a really good idea
ah here
he left wov so idk is this the current one or not 
like really good
Remove the chat? Wtf
woah
Yes, fr fr
btw guys, did anyone notice that they didn't announce any butcher nerf yet ๐คก
I didn't notice that
Butcher is balanced
i guess we're getting a butcher & trapper tree
@wooden nexus @glossy hatch why do you think anarchist is bad
Thatโs someoneโs 6 months wage
It is not
oh lol 
Trash role because yes
why tho
And i am a
player
When i'll get a fool card, i'll change my opinion
Anar as rk will be fun
For now, anarchist is just a role that ruins my card collection
And you'll get hh
Then anar needs to kill
I would love to be random killer anarchist
Too bad i alr have both
Rv ๐ซ
I have two fool cards ready
Autocorrect
might wanna dump that bomber card
I use rk more
Wait you own every role?
Oh yeah
cause its ABSOLUTELY USELESS now
Every single one
even astro
Tho I only have 14 commons, so if I am lucky, better than best
Maybe a rework for bomber is coming
And all of them are equipped?
Are u F2P
All of them
i was begging for anarchist to be fool advancec bscause i have a fool card last update
i still have thst card sonehow
i cant wait for anarchist
Maybe delete bomber
Nope i spent at least 200โฌ for cards
hope so
But oc theres also the chance that it will be forgotten for the next 10 patches
Same dude
both hh and anarchist are not random-lynch-disabling enough (if anarchist isn't changed)
because its absoluuuutely powrtctept
Was it worth "le due piotte"?
why perceive it as random lynches only?
anarchist causes people to actually vote now
No
also,role or die is (generally) allowed in anarchist games so YAY
because it is what helps evils
yuck
Random voting gets way more interesting now
I mean I'd also have all roles plus few of them golden but what's the point of getting the roles you don't like? Example fool/hh, bb or ft
I love ft
I remember when cards just went out, I got wwf and just claimed โI am wwfโ and ppls like โoh so you are like cursed, dw we wonโt lynch youโ
i meann its in a nonvill slot
And rainbow bomber
Anarchist encourage ppl to do shiet instead of waiting
exactly
which is really good
role or die is meta now
Random voting game gonna go wild
and "im good" sorts of phrases are gone
I gave examples, I don't like them. You must have some roles that you don't like but still own
in sandbox people didnt see it as valid,thsy have to now
I like them all
(astro)
so you admit liking ritu
Including astro
Even astro?
Maybe in 5 years sb will start faking info
ye but it's putting pressure other evils to kill him or they can't get good amount of mislynches
They're killing voodoo bluffing gg
Ritu Is golden
Wow
how
That's a fix for voodoo tho
Even storm?
Even storm and swamp
?
President has no cards
Thats just qol
Swamp and siren changes ew
No it removes communication
No more โฆ spam
"type 2 ... If this"
No more meta gaming with voodoo or gg
Oh yeah that toi
But would you prefer nww/voodoo or swamp/Storm?
Terrible changes
Voodoo is not fun
With storm you fake evil info and then shuffle
Good that they change it
With swamp, now it's even better
So you're saying you don't like voodoo but you still own it?
and possibly make protectors forget who was real informer
swamp + berserk combo be countering astro now
Nah
wait..
SWAMP COUNTERS ASTRO
They track everything but info
Letsgo?!?!?!
I said it's not fun, not that i don't like it
Swamp and storm are pro against social deduction
Boring but good abilities
I'd rather have astro than swamp in my games
100% of times
finally i can have peace as wolffluencer
Yes that far.
I am biggest fan of baker if you die bread still be giving
Swamp is honestly worse than Seer.
And yourself scrible best to
I mean it
it isnt
yea it cuts communication which is the purpose
its atleast a bit counteranle
The game is too slow anyway that cutting communication wont do it in casual games
deserved
Cuts all communication BUT information
Cuts all deduction BUT information
Which is why it sucks in sandbox
People always only follow info anyway
Now it's just vigi gunner block
isn't it a buff? don't we still have fake vote + chat disabling?
Might as well makes it a day roleblocker with a different niche to it tbh
Boop
i swear med has the most role icons wtfff
Not even Close
Cupid
and that..
just realized i sacced a nww card on last Monday
i was aiming for cursed's adv at that time
Not really since you can't swamp n1
I'm sad :(
i see another one has fallen into the p2w hole
(or ur just grinding)
Nope, just a lot of money
Why didn't Cupid or bomber get an icon this season... Why...???
W p2w
I'm richer I have 212 tokens
I mean 21
rip
Those are both useless in sandbox since they only follow info anyway
if i get a job that pays well i will use the money to p2w in wov
No buffs are saving swamp or storm
๐
P2f
Pay to fast
Swamp is saved
Y A S U S S Y B A K A
wonder whats gonna happen to conju
no
i like conju how it is rn tho
it will be removed alongside grave robber๐๐ป
Deleted :)
Gr sucks
no gr fun
Gr is balanced
reject everything, become the nihility
No it's not
its rng
i sacrificed my wwf and lurk cards to get gr
How
you either be a gunner or be a wolf summoner depending on what the game decides
i mean got those three and deleted wwf and lurk
Never got either of those
First of all grave robber is A M O G U S .
But its rng, and youre literally just a villager but oh NOOOO you might turn evil or into an op role!!
thats so cool omg
If you don't claim d1 then you're EVIL!;!
i wanna surprise vill
iirc conju is excluded from being gr's target
Always favour the village and if Ur ww or rk then you messed up!!!
What will happen to tg?
oh
my point still stands
Agree. It is too village sided
Fr
Question is: how?
Terrible
Nah
Gr enjoyers when they favour village but their target is a wolf and they've just turned into one:
number of villagers > evils + gr starts in village
i might actually not use gr atp
That's the fun about the role
Third parties all start as village
Yeah insti does
As one of their win cons

Fr
problem is you start in village and more likely become a villager
Make it a bandit advanced pls
Well you could argue the same for cursed
what exactly was the conj buff
Already suggest from someone. Got downvoted to the hell
I suggested it and it got downvoted asf
It was conj/gr
Both getting deleted!!! :)))
yea, but what in the hell does that mean
What was it
Best update of my life
Ah that was you
Conjuror and grave robber are getting changed
but gr will stay in village with rng, cursed will stay in village with ww skill issue
Why them and not
tho
Genuinely the second worse balance changes
Insti is a bandit adv, and its aura is unk and can't be killed by wws
isn't bandit better?
Not exactly skill issue on the first place, but it's not entirely rng, if you get an evil target and keep them alive then kill them last you still win
Hmmm nahhh
So instead of rng it's more of the gr pushing for their target in the first place
Both equal
Fr why does
still has a good aura. It does not make any sense at all
Because players crave buffs
All the buffs wov devs do don't make sense
Bud
But not nerfs
Hi how new preacher buff work?
So true. I generally prefer nerf over buffs
(there may be some exception here and there)
wov players when a broken role needs a nerf
what im trying to say there is high chance that gr will be a villager all game 100%
can you say the same for cursed?
Astronomer should be nerfed
(700)
(40)
@bitter wadi
and
when they finally became balanced
What is with tg?? I really wanna know๐ญ
Astro main mad
Y'all have the Siren buff you wanted after calling Siren absolute garbage ever since it's Testing in Sandbox and up until now
So annoying whrn astro is ig (even as a villager)
(they cant win their daily 20 hour sandbox gameplay anymore and won't get enough xp๐ญ)
I'm more worried on canni edet from sk or trapper from bh
Atleast astro can't play the exact same as witch and just have more abilities still
Arent cupid and bb has same amount of icons?
Yes but bomber is useless
honestly i don't understand why they gave him auto-protect and announcement at the same time. astro would be good with one of them (pls don't talk about skill, it is meant to require less skill)
Cupid has 1 more
Oh?
When did that happen
Who cares abput skill. I care about balance and game health
Omg we need new bb icon so they can be equal again
Cupid getting watermelon icon
I don't get why wov devs do half the decision they do, and the other half is to sell card packs
Who cares about skill. I care about Luck 400% of this game
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we need our 11th cupid icon over a sorcerer icon
Bomber also got watermelon icon
Ritualist
Nvm bomb got one at the same time
@marsh wyvern what do you think about storm wolf buff?
is it on mobile
why game health?
Yes
We need hallomber this Halloween to equal cupid and bb again frr
I think it was rge Easrer Bundle
BB also got one
I needed a rework
whats it about
Lol
Social deduction
I corrected myself
Is this one enough?
Largest diferences
Oh sorry
Dk
I need a rework
sure ill download
Oh I see, this is just a buff
It has one
This
yeah
you still need to guess player deaths to get votes
i dont think it will be announced in chat tho
Yes I know but what is the change
So your identity is still secret?
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There is no rng, all rng choises are decided by a Storyteller, a neutral player who wants to help both teams equally
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Dead players do not have their roles shown, can still vote once per game
Preacher is finally a good role?!?!
#dev-vote message 4th one is siren getting shrimpma icon fr fr
@bitter wadi just search botc.app on google and you will find the website
Also off topic so I won't anymore
And will it be like โafter you activate your votes you can no longer gain bonus votesโ or is it like โyou can gain and activate and gain and activate over and over againโ
๐ฆ
doubt it, preacher doesnt rly need a nerf
It already was ๐ซ
So this is a buff against wolffluencer
also i dont think u can deactivate
preacher is weakest on mator tree
I think tg can be bitten bu zombie from now on
Guys I didnโt say it needs a nerf, just tryna figure it out what do they mean in the change
Really depends on setup
sure if witch ig
worst nerf ever
but like
DONT VOTE 1
why
Thatโs not nerf??
half of the players not even play preacher
thats a nerf
4 can be musics for evils
its play like trapper
https://discordapp.com/channels/414179354814185498/452605920233652224/1249816846769852528 those are the sl changes probably
ot said it
it's not even a nerf
In siren, alch, bb game or any villager killing role that kills at night, preacher gets a lot value
itโs just I wanna know what tf 4 is
๐
its a nerf cause its turn to be like trapper
dope honestly
I legit wanna know 4
@solid abyss how is this a nerf
I DONT WANNA STAY UP FOR 3 HOURS MORE
Shrimpma icon
It's not a nerf

you can reveal your extra votes whenevr u want
when activate you cant gonna get votes until guess and when guess hapens you lose the votes am I wrong ?
its a buff against wolfflu
Then activate it
@solid abyss I think it you can activate them over and over as soon as you continue getting bonus votes
It's not siren because siren was already revealed on 3
New music?
I feel like its going to be like how trapper works so I dont want
Maybe something else about siren
Well if it is gonna be like that, I wonโt want it either dw
ends up not being related to siren:
Siren entering chain reaction setup ?
its music yeah
counter better imo when guess vote it will you gain a permenat +1 to your voting number but its gone after 6 phase ( 2 days )
Imagine if its something like a new gamemode
Ability icons reskin!!!

Wouldnt it be same if siren enters chain reaction?
Well I guess it might be a game mode ABT siren
why the hell do they need to announce siren entering chain reaction tho?
I BARELY SEE CHAIN REACTION NOW
Silent reveals:
You won't receive any notifications if you were affected or got a result back.
All random should be fixed fr
Instead of putting all random every weekend
counter better imo when guess vote it will you gain a permenat +1 to your voting number but its gone after 6/8 phase ( 2-2.5 days )
@next geode @quick marsh imo this is better solution
How ABT we delete all shitdom
this not effect game play at all and wolfu have chance to lose their vote against preacher
like in how many games you guys see wolfu+preacher and you want a nerf
I bet the voucher is smth like this
Then other variants of all random will be choosen in rotation...
I'm staying up
How much time left for new leak?
I think its goiing to be like re-roll advnaced role
3-4 hours
Alrr
in my time its 12:30 AM
20.49
I don't know which is your time, but it's okay
For me luckily it's before tomorrow
its getting released in 2-3 hours go
yeah, 1h 20min ago
when is thar
rawr
1h ago
its been one and hald qn hour
Central european timezone is the best timezone
Wait there is
nerf?
thing?