speculations

[robust elk]

New roles %99 sure:
+ //💇‍♀️
%100+%35/%50/%15

[vague heath]

I wanna see it to be into game asap cause it's the first role have none team at the beginning of the game

[flat blade]

We're getting spy too? That's so skibiddi cool

[vague heath]

👀

[loud girder]

Old Wolfluencer comback ? Well didnt that impossible ?

[robust elk]

Reworked spy will release definitely.

[vague heath]

4 players = +1 require vote

Hummm

[loud girder]

Rework like Fortune Teller

[robust elk]

https://cdn2.wolvesville.com/roleIcons/icon_default_wolf_scribe_filled.png

https://cdn2.wolvesville.com/roleIcons/icon_legendary_card_wolf_scribe_filled.png

https://cdn2.wolvesville.com/roleIcons/icon_mythical_card_wolf_scribe_filled.png
Scribe wolf
Advanced of shaman werewolf
At day you can select a player to falsify their obituary. You can select a role and a kill cause for your target that will be shown if this player is killed during the night.

[loud girder]

Ay cool

[bitter wadi]

when r these tester

[loud girder]

They really rewok old wolfluencer icon

[flat blade]

Probably this December

[robust elk]

Monday prob

[bitter wadi]

exact day

[flat blade]

Monday already?

[robust elk]

Or ASAP apple releases wov update

[vague heath]

Anyway. If sk killed one player and wcs fakes ww kill -> sk kill. Will we see 2 sk kill 👀

and the animation too

[flat blade]

Is lurker release date official yet or will it probably drop with spy next bp?

[teal ravine]

Im tired of forky setup 😭

[robust elk]

Lurker has no confirmed release

[flat blade]

That's cool. I actually like that because it confuses ss and sheriff

[latent locust]

bring back the other 2 sandbox setups from before halloween 😤

[teal ravine]

Bring back cupid + bandit setup 🗣️🗣️🔥🔥🔥

[mystic isle]

i hate jww + seer setup

[latent locust]

wait lets also bring back the setup with

[mystic isle]

because it's so lame to fake info as seer

[glossy hatch]

i didnt understand much, your only purpose is making provable roles not provable if they're rrv ?

[mystic isle]

YES.

jww with det is my favourite

[robust elk]

A night all triggered trickster

Could be maximum of 2 hides for balance issues.

[glossy hatch]

still didnt understand how does it work or how is it good among shaman advanceds

[tranquil comet]

there was a funny thing where u can make someone appear like they died visiting someone as RL

[robust elk]

@dusky perch is there a limit to scribe

[vague heath]

Do you think the animation will be changed? E.g, every players can realize immediately a player got a fake kill cause cause they killed by sk but the ww scratch animation appears on their cell

[steady quiver]

I would guess that morti prob would not be fooled by wolf scribe

[glossy hatch]

but can't we see their role ?

[robust elk]

You can change how they look and how they look they died.

[half citrus]

wait a minute
is that you, ?

[tranquil comet]

you’ll see what the scribe wants you to see 😂

[robust elk]

It will be tricked

[tranquil comet]

so u see that forky over there?

yeah he visited someone and died

[robust elk]

See that ?

[teal ravine]

What about ss/sherizz

[robust elk]

He was that died to

[robust elk]

Ss idk but sheriff will be tricked too imo.

[vague heath]

Maybe
is the young one
Scribe wolf is the old one

[tranquil comet]

bro we thought was already strong enough

💀💀💀

[vague heath]

.

[half citrus]

bro has grown up 😂

[steady quiver]

Eh would be weird if it will be like that in the final version

[glossy hatch]

sheriff can't be prob or this role couldnt be detected by any informer 100 percently

[robust elk]

I think scribe is one of the most original ideas the game had in a decent amount of time.

[tranquil comet]

original? its literally just from tos no?

with one slight change

[half citrus]

fr man 💀
this bud creates more confusion than

[tranquil comet]

the slight change is original but still

[latent locust]

tos forger ✅

[tranquil comet]

a bit oversuggested

[steady quiver]

Well its cards after all plus it isnt far away from confusion wolf tbf

[robust elk]

Wait

Whut

[steady quiver]

And also this

[tranquil comet]

theres one slight difference

[robust elk]

I know 0 roles from ToS

[latent locust]

modify cause of death

[tranquil comet]

forger can alter wills, we don’t have wills

yes the kill message modification

tos forger / enchanter can’t alter cause of death

although if ww missed a kill i would suspect it was the scribe

[half citrus]

"The Anarchist has exploded 1!"

[tranquil comet]

bh / trapper kill is funny tho ngl

[tranquil comet]

yep bh totally got lucky N2 👍👍

i trust

[glossy hatch]

bh trap has killed 9 president

[dapper iris]

https://tenor.com/view/frozen2-hands-up-elsa-snow-gif-15636714

[tranquil comet]

snow whiteeee

[robust elk]

Unless sheriff can detect village kills and death by self abilities it won’t find prob.

[tranquil comet]

now u have show all other 9 icons

[dapper iris]

salem have that too

[latent locust]

1 was killed by an explosion!
The astronomer sent a meteor shower and killed 2 (fc)
3 was killed by an explosion!

[steady quiver]

Scribe prob wont work with mid night kills

[latent locust]

me: hmm seems about right

oh well

[steady quiver]

Or at least the cause of death

Though u prob can just allow it for role change

[vague heath]

Image gentle wolf in mandatory vote :)))))

[half citrus]

wait iirc, it was from the role ideas in #dev-vote

I've read it somewhere

[bitter wadi]

yep

[half citrus]

i've forgotten it for a very long time
it just like suddenly bring back them from my memory

[tranquil comet]

i think it will

[steady quiver]

Actually it prob can work yeah

[tranquil comet]

say if mm is about to shoot, u can alter him to be a ww and change his cause of death to that witch killed him

[steady quiver]

U can still change the roles

[tranquil comet]

if his shot backfire

that is

[half citrus]

if it can't, i couldn't make the seer bombed medium lol

[tranquil comet]

here’s an interesting buff for which could give it some synergy and solve some of its other problems too:

when ww go to attack a poisoned player, instead of waiting for the end of the night, the ww can choose to immediately kill poisoned player at any point during the night, so like ww kill will be like witch/mm/jailer kill etc and doesn’t care about any protection, also u can time the kill in the middle of night

would be complicated for devs tho xd

[mystic isle]

going to wait for the people in #1048395200738906163 to come up with a way to play scribe ww

[glossy hatch]

or poisoning someone twice will kill the player at the end of the night

[tranquil comet]

tbh i think its limited atm, theres not much scribe wolf can do that I can think of compared to what other people think it can do

i can see RL, BH, witch/jailer/mm manipulation (requires trickery here though) and you can’t rely on solo kills

[glossy hatch]

get a friend
they will be kww
you will be scribe ww
they fake info role
kww will be seen as informer vica versa
you turn a player

[tranquil comet]

how will they be seen as informer? you are convinced that kww will die at night?

thats if u even had the friend in the first place 😂

[mystic isle]

wait yeah the scribe ww can only change deaths that happen at night :(

[glossy hatch]

attack bh intentionally or taunt witch/jailer

[tranquil comet]

well lets hope scribe wolf can alter their teammates too 😂

[glossy hatch]

yep

but

we need a how to get a friend tutorial

[tranquil comet]

true

[fresh sail]

are there any new secret easter egg or codes

[dusk hemlock]

well, witch kill midnight and ww kill at the end of the night

and in general there is no ww who can actively kill midnight

so i dont think it can work like that

[flat blade]

Same thought here. It's not really good in witch/mm/jailor games

[dusk hemlock]

thats literally 90% of all the games

that kills... a villager?

[flat blade]

You can always change appearance

Make the guy who died by the trap appear as a wolf

[dusk hemlock]

nvm didnt see that part when this role can change appearance

[flat blade]

Yeah faking bh/trapper as that role is surprisingly efficient unless jww is fixed

[brisk heath]

it will be funny if it works like ft cards

Players thinking How Someone died to Canni in Ed game 🐳

[flat blade]

It probably will. One menu where you can choose the role and one where you can choose a death message by choosing the corresponding role

[brisk heath]

Yeah

One of the Best Ability That Ft has is Fool can reveal themselves as Bomber

Well Everyone can

But it is more Funny when a Known Fool does it

[flat blade]

I once gave a revealed fool a card

And no one gave a shit

That's how bad ft is

[brisk heath]

No

As a “anti village✨” player I like every Role that Damages the village team

That is literally Why I made ritualist role card

it can revive non villagers

[flat blade]

I'm sure you'll like this role then

[brisk heath]

Y E S

“THROW ANOTHER ONE AND I REPORT”

“BULLY YOU CAN T RANDOM BEFORE D3”

[dusk hemlock]

peak irony for you to have your avatar as a role who might end up helping village often

[brisk heath]

When am gonna kill tho d7? 💀

[fleet hawk]

Really want devs to add legacy icons as free options for next wov birthday maybe

[brisk heath]

it is Cool ok >:c

I like it

[flat blade]

I love encountering those kinds of players because people who complain about getting rocked are (according to my calculations 🤓) 100% evil

[brisk heath]

Maybe I am a bit Mazochist

Bc I also use Every ww role that damages the ww team

[brisk heath]

Yes

imo

Asking role back = Evil

Report Threat = Evil

Staying Silent After Getting concussed = Evil

[flat blade]

Pleading and claiming = good

[brisk heath]

Yes

Speed is The accuracy

[flat blade]

Well, I wouldn't call ritu an anti village. Solely because you can spell one important informer and go afk for the rest of the game. That's why I smile as ww whenever I see a golden/purple ritu

[brisk heath]

Peoples Hate ritu bv

in Sandbox Ritu players spell seer and Go afk

[flat blade]

Exactly but people can cope with a ritu more than with a conj

[brisk heath]

Conju is “fine I ll do it myself”

[fleet hawk]

See med, conju: 😦
See ritu: 😌
See med, conju in game: 🤩🥳😘🥰

[brisk heath]

Peoples Go afk Anyways

So personally I think Leaving the game as Witch should be reportable

[brisk heath]

After death

Idk What Makes people think that witch is weak

[robust elk]

It is just wrong to make it random regular villager.

[fleet hawk]

Sometimes i just wish seer or whatever info role die

As seer app

[robust elk]

#Makewitchrandomstrongvillager

[flat blade]

It's not weak. Just outshadowed

[fleet hawk]

Cuz they’re dumdumb sometimes

[fleet hawk]

Easy, straightforward killing with no consequences, sounds powerful to me, especially if there’s several of them

[robust elk]

All busted

And still no category change to them.

[flat blade]

Astro is just witch but the save is guaranteed + you disable some abilities

Forger may not be better but it's the most fun for sure

[brisk heath]

Astro can t Kill random

I mean when you kill random

[flat blade]

Yeah and that's why it's boring

[robust elk]

Astro is weak

Imo

[brisk heath]

They get Angry and you have to listen to them

No

Lore accurate astro not weak 🥰🥰

[robust elk]

Since one miskill = loss
Can’t protect against solos which is a big thing and can’t even do proper protection

[fleet hawk]

Average witch be like: kill det on n2 then leave im getting sick of this
Astro is like full service, no need to flee, u die urself anyway

[brisk heath]

Astro doesn t even have a Bald head…

[flat blade]

Doesn't matter. Disabling four players scales with letting one freely kill

[brisk heath]

Ye

[fleet hawk]

Petition for forger to wear purple shirt

[brisk heath]

Astro has no -

[fleet hawk]

To match witch astro

[brisk heath]

But I have a Lecture 🤓 About how astro Moon < Witch Prot potion

[flat blade]

Nuh uh

[fleet hawk]

That one player is hungry cannibal having been fasting 5 days straight

[flat blade]

You must be a lucky canni if still alive till N5

[brisk heath]

So if You want to Protect a single player Ok I mean New moon will do it But witch also do it (in case of berserk 💀) but with astro You are done after using the moon but as witch ww team will Go like “why would we attack This player since they are protected anyways” so they will Greed and Kill others which will make them live longer 🐳

[fleet hawk]

I think this should be a steam challenge, saving 5 kills as canni

[brisk heath]

if someone reacts with I ain t reading allat I will report then

Them

!ban @robust elk

[silver marten]

🚫 Vibin Paci Ww, you can't use that.

[robust elk]

Disabling 4 players is not normal disable it is just protection against every player except them.

And the kill isn’t even free it has a drawback.

[flat blade]

Dude

[fleet hawk]

Biggest clutch: witch potion can stop kww conversion

[brisk heath]

imagine we getting reported for Gamethrow Promoting

[viral pond]

👀

[brisk heath]

I can t see it

[brisk heath]

I am laggy

OMG 😡

A min I am laggy müessesemiz Hemen Olay yerine Varıcak

[robust elk]

Salem gave codes

[brisk heath]

!ban @flat blade

[silver marten]

🚫 Vibin Paci Ww, you can't use that.

🚫 Vibin Paci Ww, you can't use that.

[robust elk]

https://cdn2.wolvesville.com/roleIcons/icon_default_wolf_scribe_filled.png.

https://cdn2.wolvesville.com/roleIcons/icon_legendary_card_wolf_scribe_filled.png.

https://cdn2.wolvesville.com/roleIcons/icon_mythical_card_wolf_scribe_filled.png.

[brisk heath]

@robust elk angry Cat meme

[robust elk]

Wait

[flat blade]

I get what you mean. Astro has a guaranteed save but it's only a one time use whereas witch doesn't have it guaranteed but it's there until it's consumed. But early game is always the most crucial so I'd say astro takes the W here but then again, there are scenarios where late game info is also crucial

[robust elk]

Remove the dots at the end

[brisk heath]

Fast

[flat blade]

Az önce benim hakkımda ne söyledin

[brisk heath]

Ayo

@robust elk No lazy

No Don t

[glossy hatch]

tbh witch has high chance of dying with their prot pot but astro can't

[flat blade]

Yeah ok but witch has a fancy hat (astro doesn't)

[brisk heath]

Don t lazy

[glossy hatch]

we have bp skin on astro> (idk if there is a bp witch skin recently)

[brisk heath]

Sen very Bannable

I am laggy again 😡

[flat blade]

That astro skin is bad content

https://tenor.com/view/bad-content-hello-neighbor-unsubscribe-dislike-gif-16052859260058426388

[flat blade]

I'm gonna beat the living hell out of you and you can't defend yourself (That would be against the pacifistic law)

[brisk heath]

I did astro Role card After playing 0 Matches I decided that it is a Very boring role and I sacrificed it For golden Ghost mommy

[brisk heath]

Reveals so Barış 🐳

Am Gonna Tell Jelly ww to jelly me

[flat blade]

Peki ya silah taşırsam?

Jelly won't save

[glossy hatch]

plot armor

[brisk heath]

Peki Ya I kill you Before you do it

[flat blade]

MODS HE'S TALKING TURKISH IN #speculations

https://tenor.com/view/mods-discord-mod-moderator-moderation-clash-of-clans-gif-24080525

[brisk heath]

.-.

[flat blade]

şaka yapıyorum

[brisk heath]

I Alındı

[marsh wyvern]

I will shuffle so paci ww can flee

[brisk heath]

🐳

reveals Storm wolf and flees

[marsh wyvern]

Wha-

Why reveal me

You traitor

[brisk heath]

Pacifist did it

Ben Not

Ben No Hayır

[flat blade]

Wolf paci can't reveal another wolf you silly silly silly silly silly goober I'm gonna sacrifice my golden storm ww card

[brisk heath]

Yes Evet This Man Talks Doğrular

[marsh wyvern]

Don't u dare

[brisk heath]

Wait I have a great idea

Ain t u storm wolf

if a Moderator Warns us you delete chat

🐳

Ben Very Smart

[flat blade]

What a shame I really like the role

[marsh wyvern]

NO NO PLEASE DON'T

[brisk heath]

WAIT

[marsh wyvern]

I beg you

[brisk heath]

Not Ghost mommy

if you Sacrifice Ghost mommy I will Report You for NecroPhiliPhobia

[marsh wyvern]

Not storm either

[flat blade]

💀

Alright fine fine

Gonna have to make some sacrifices for mythic lurker tho

[brisk heath]

Amaan I don t care Fırtına Wolf Rol Card Ghost Mommy >>

[steep vector]

Ghostbusters appears behind you

[brisk heath]

My Ghost mommy is invincible

And Golden

And Quen

And Elsa

[steep vector]

[brisk heath]

And Mythical Majestic Thing

[brisk heath]

[flat blade]

Fırtına kurdu en iyi kurt adam rolüdür

[brisk heath]

Tabiki

Vudu Kurtu Napçaz

What will we do with mute

[steep vector]

[marsh wyvern]

I completely agree

[brisk heath]

With Storm Wolf

There can be 4 Analyst in game

4 Analyst 4 Ss 🐳

[steep vector]

total chaos fr

[brisk heath]

My Favourite

Kinda lame they didn t add storm ww to 25 Players

[flat blade]

Buff storm. Give it an ability which causes an instant village loss and gives your team the W

[marsh wyvern]

YES

More power

[flat blade]

Yeah and it would be the equivalent of astro

So balanced

[brisk heath]

Agreed

[brisk heath]

well it was

it could freeze the game 2 Times

TwT

But These Poeple Very Bad they Fixed the bug

[marsh wyvern]

We should give feedback

Bring back the storm bug!!!

[brisk heath]

it ain t bug

Unique Mechanic ✨

[flat blade]

The bug was present for what felt like a year

[brisk heath]

Don t be rude

[flat blade]

The Mechanic*

Satisfied?

[brisk heath]

Eh

[brisk heath]

Normally this is only the First half of the message

The second part was a bit

[flat blade]

Okay good because I was lying

[brisk heath]

Zaten

Do u think Tek sıkıntı bu? 💀

Conju Buggy af

illu Buggy af

We don t talk about sa

But I also Liked the unique Mechanic ✨

That Let you Forge Both sword and shield

[flat blade]

I don't care about the other bugs

Fırtına kurdu tamircisi en iyisiydi

[brisk heath]

Ne alaka ya

Forger Bug made Forger so broken

it could even Had double sword 🐳

[flat blade]

I never played the forger stuff

[brisk heath]

So as a good person

I abused all of the bugs I could

Oh but I couldn t abuse the astro one

[flat blade]

How did that one even work

[brisk heath]

Same as Gunner infinite ammo bug

You open uçak modu

Select the players that u want to kill

Kapat uçak modu

[flat blade]

Wish I could use that

Would make astro fun to play

[brisk heath]

Well I could but I used my Cards to make a role card instead of

I am %100 Against the usage of

[flat blade]

Totally agree on grave robber

Why play that when you can play

[fair vapor]

@brisk heath @flat blade Use only English here. Speak turkish freely in #turkish please!

[brisk heath]

I deny all the allegations

My dog stepped on a bee

[glossy hatch]

being a forky is a different vibe

[brisk heath]

Shut ap

My Wolf fan is a

[glossy hatch]

my gr is ?

cool

[brisk heath]

Yes

[torpid sparrow]

Me when funny is present right before my eyes: 🤣

[brisk heath]

Grave Robber 💀

[glossy hatch]

if you dont want to be a forky, go play wwf

[torpid sparrow]

Wwf is based

[glossy hatch]

(which mm/warden confirms wwf is a forky too)

[torpid sparrow]

Gr >>>>>>> wwf

[short epoch]

so u always want u re a villager

[bitter wadi]

wwf>gr

[glossy hatch]

yes

[robust elk]

Well technically you liking grave robber is based too.

[brisk heath]

Yes

Agreed Very much

Grave Robber BOOOOO

[dire plank]

guyss I just got mythical mayor

[robust elk]

WHY

20 CARD WASTER

AT LEAST WAIT FOR CHRISTMAS

[dire plank]

granny is one of my fav roles

[tranquil comet]

the elections don’t wait on their own

[dire plank]

I dont like xmas icons (I dont even need to see I just dont like)

[tranquil comet]

congrats on the election

[robust elk]

Worthiest mythical cards after update. 3 advanced only.

1. 
2. 
3. 
4. 
5. 
6. 

[dire plank]

I didnt have a single icon in mayor tree so I got 4 icons to use

w

[brisk heath]

Ok lets look from the Beight sifr

[tranquil comet]

i would say > and > but thats just me

[flat blade]

It's @brisk heath s fault

[brisk heath]

You know who to Target if you see a Mythic Nator role tree icon

[flat blade]

https://tenor.com/view/joke-better-call-saul-breaking-bad-saul-court-gif-9893550500627587663

[tranquil comet]

lm and mayor not much diff actually

[dire plank]

I dont want goofy ft sry

Ill do jww next tho

[tranquil comet]

i understand, I can play FT tho

[robust elk]

!ban @flat blade !time infinite

[silver marten]

🚫 Vibing|Jelly werewolf, you can't use that.

[tranquil comet]

wanna consider something else cuz everyone that has a mythical card, 95% of them its jww

[brisk heath]

That thing is Broke

[dire plank]

Im omw to edit perks

[brisk heath]

it aint working

[dire plank]

I like village roles more than ww

[tranquil comet]

which village roles

[flat blade]

You should only upgrade triple role cards to mythic. I'd also add shaman and cursed to the mix since they'll both get a third advance soon

[dire plank]

most of them

[dusk pivot]

👀

[tranquil comet]

heres a good question then

[dusk pivot]

It won't work (it didn't worked the 500 times before)

[flat blade]

https://tenor.com/view/white-dog-shaking-scared-nervous-dog-scared-and-shaking-gif-22874221

[brisk heath]

Omg very baf Behavious

[dire plank]

luckly I have veterans

[dusk pivot]

So let's avoid trying it again

[tranquil comet]

would u upgrade bg to mythic
(bg tg seer app locksmith)

[brisk heath]

WHAT

[tranquil comet]

oh wait theres cursed too sorry

[dusk pivot]

[tranquil comet]

gr wwf lurker right

[brisk heath]

OH NOOOO

[dire plank]

not until locksmith comes

[flat blade]

Yeah

Lurker's the goat

[robust elk]

Imo best choices for me are these atm:

[short epoch]

confu

[brisk heath]

I like how community Decided that release is a MUST

[short epoch]

split

[brisk heath]

Have to

Will

[tranquil comet]

confu and scribe are very similar, scribe is more technical however

[brisk heath]

Going to

[robust elk]

I feel gentle wolf is gonna release

[brisk heath]

Yeah They Like 💀 roles

[short epoch]

confu alway is better

[robust elk]

Because our devs are the best at doing the opposite of we say

[tranquil comet]

current gentlewolf has nothing going for it right now

[brisk heath]

Wait

Are you serios?

[dusk pivot]

yes

[tranquil comet]

oh true

[brisk heath]

Like We can t?

No ban? :c

[dusk pivot]

No you can't ban someone

(It should be obvious)

[brisk heath]

I have Judge role card

Enough to be Guardian

[robust elk]

Imo is better if played good and it is defo more fun.

[dusk pivot]

I can ban you ofc /jkjkjk

[tranquil comet]

not always better, but since ur probably talking about sb then ur right

[brisk heath]

Wait

Can you Ban me For 5 seconds

[dusk pivot]

no

[dire plank]

I changed perks, how it looks?

[brisk heath]

or is it even possible

[tranquil comet]

like tell me whats the use of confusion wolf in all random

😂

[dusk pivot]

It would be possible but we won't do it

[brisk heath]

Can you do the !infraction Jutsu?

Aurora Did it To someone

[dusk pivot]

yes

[brisk heath]

it looks so col

[dire plank]

not letting random med to rev

[dusk pivot]

Best mmod+ feature is:

[short epoch]

it not offical game mode. i say in adv or rank

[silver marten]

1. Don’t spam! You are allowed to type fast, but flooding the chat with images, gibberish, emotes, or spam emoji reactions to sentences will result in a mute and/or warn. Abuse of spoiler text formatting is forbidden. This includes talking about NSFW, and using it without specific reasons.

[flat blade]

Scribble ww makes fake claiming ever stronger when knowing how to do it. Conf ww makes fake claiming easier

Scribble's goated

[brisk heath]

Ok Got this

?spam

Hello

[bitter wadi]

YES YES YES

[brisk heath]

Medium

Wotk

[robust elk]

Conf ww is just rev block ww

[dusk pivot]

It's a mmod+ command

[robust elk]

JOIN SCRIBES

[brisk heath]

Ayo

You People Very rude

[bitter wadi]

if i get trickster i am crying

[robust elk]

Imo fits all my needs

[brisk heath]

Creating Broken Shaman Advanceds

WHAT ABOUT MY

[flat blade]

So does scribble but a little delayed

[short epoch]

for you

[brisk heath]

I WANT TO BE LOVED

[bitter wadi]

😭

[brisk heath]

😡

[robust elk]

high skill and high value role
high skill high value role
brain dead role I can play when I am tired but wanna play

[robust elk]

At least scribe can do some faking and actual role hide

Unlike

[bitter wadi]

is not that high skill tbf

[brisk heath]

Yes At least This one needs a Bit of skill

[robust elk]

Needs a mislynch

[bitter wadi]

nor is it high value

[robust elk]

Done

[bitter wadi]

yes,then you get killed. wow,what a role

[short epoch]

when coming. u can sure who better

[robust elk]

Doing 2 mislynches without getting caught is a good trait imo

[flat blade]

Trickster has high value but not enough skill. Fake aura/sheriff and you get a mislynch unless there's vigi (anti deduction)

[bitter wadi]

how are you so sure that no one will even sus you

[brisk heath]

No brainer d1 Random reveal

[robust elk]

Or go pro route and claim

😎

🐳✨💖

[brisk heath]

🤡💀

[flat blade]

Kid named

[bitter wadi]

how will you manage to go “pro route” every game

[brisk heath]

Does claiming det save you

[robust elk]

We will chat

If det dies d1

[brisk heath]

Trust me dear

He does

[robust elk]

Claim vio and tell med coupled

After killing cupid

[bitter wadi]

i’d like to spectate one game

[brisk heath]

Claim Rsv informer Every game if Possible

[robust elk]

😎

My to go claim is vio for selling coupled instigated ww or det claim for no situations like that

[dire plank]

choose one;

[short epoch]

+

[robust elk]

[elder summit]

Preacher on top

[brisk heath]

[robust elk]

Confusion wolf is now nerfed so he only hides werewolf kills

[short epoch]

wtf

why

[robust elk]

I am just jokin

[robust elk]

For obvious balance issues

[brisk heath]

+safest option
+got annoyed? Mute
+Knows how to bake

[short epoch]

vvillage is very strong

[robust elk]

Ayo

[flat blade]

That's so bad lmao

[robust elk]

This ain’t meaning advanced can be busted af

[short epoch]

astro nerf

[robust elk]

One of the weakest wolves having one of the best is uncanny

[brisk heath]

Confusion wolf is Really easy to counter

But peoples Leave With their roles hidden

[robust elk]

Rev block isn’r

💀

[brisk heath]

Use ritualist

Very Good role

can rev Non villagers

[latent locust]

i need to get ritualist back i sacrificed it for mythical

[robust elk]

Yeah ritu deletes

[regal nova]

I use ritu

cos after n1

I can go ham & scumhunt

since my revive doesn't depend on me living

[short epoch]

>>>>

[regal nova]

not rlly

[robust elk]

Imo these are the best role tree upgrades to mythical atm

[bitter wadi]

skill issue

[brisk heath]

%100 Agreed

[regal nova]

Ritu id the least mechanically involved lmao

I like it the most but saying that ritu is the worst doesn t correlate to a skill ossud

[robust elk]

[regal nova]

it's an incorrect statement yes

[bitter wadi]

it does,ritualist can outperform

[short epoch]

when gunner dead day 1. and dont know who jail for rev

[robust elk]

Jailer should and could claim.

[regal nova]

Conj/med are way harder

[robust elk]

Sounds like a player skill issue.

[brisk heath]

NO

[short epoch]

jailer never claim on day 1

[robust elk]

Well they should

[brisk heath]

His Jailer Does

[regal nova]

objectively yes

[robust elk]

Because they need protection as a powerful role

[regal nova]

ritu's job is to survive n1 & find an important town

[brisk heath]

Peoples Who don t claim As Warden D1 in ritu games

💀

[robust elk]

Also they have no rights to cry if they die without claims at ritualist game.

[short epoch]

if jailer claim and ww can guess u rev jailer, and they dont kill them

[regal nova]

Oh that reminds me

in a recent ranked game

I faked jaiked

[elder summit]

Ritu spell tg on top 😇

[regal nova]

bc cww hid warden

[brisk heath]

No

Ritu spelling tg = Med reviving tg

Spell Forky

[robust elk]

spell on top.

[elder summit]

Spell fc / lm

Best

[brisk heath]

No

[brisk heath]

Y E S

[regal nova]

I'd say they're equally valuable if you're confident there's at least 1 pther proc role

[robust elk]

REVIVAL OF 4 VOTES

[brisk heath]

What 4 Votes

[robust elk]

Imo fast revive is a good thing on it’s own

[short epoch]

. role i dont like . really weak

[regal nova]

Not really

[elder summit]

💀 i agree with bully / ft

[brisk heath]

You are like 1 of the 3 Preachers that Managed to get 4 Votes in a game

[regal nova]

is what should be

[elder summit]

Bully is too slow to kill someone though

[regal nova]

strong & limited, but fair

[elder summit]

I rather pick gunner and pew pew

[brisk heath]

WHAT LIMIT? 💀

[bitter wadi]

ft is decent,ritu and bully are awesome

[bitter wadi]

late kills

[regal nova]

^

[dire plank]

Im using med again bcz I saced my golden conj

its been 1 year

[glossy hatch]

purple nwm ????

[regal nova]

3 of those are rsv level

[robust elk]

But you didn’r

[regal nova]

and is on par w/ tg (imo)

[flat blade]

Dawg don't say it's ft

[regal nova]

FT is mayor #3

[robust elk]

He says it is ft because provable

[dire plank]

my friends told me to do mayor tree...

[regal nova]

which shouldn't be rrv in the forst place

[short epoch]

if pick . i dont khow we can have other role cover in game.

[dire plank]

so I did mayor tree

[brisk heath]

💀

[flat blade]

Fake claim ft

[brisk heath]

Fortube Teller very Good role

Very Very good

[robust elk]

@brisk heath nob preacher

[elder summit]

Sa shouldn't be adv bg role

[robust elk]

I am pro preacher

😎

[brisk heath]

SHUT APPPO

[robust elk]

It fits somehow

[elder summit]

should be base role ? 🤔

[brisk heath]

WHEN I AM PREACHER THE VILLAGE HAS NO BRAIN

[regal nova]

Nah

[glossy hatch]

mayor is one of the useless tree along with fc (paci and gg excluded)

[robust elk]

I am gonna be a better preacher than you
@brisk heath

[elder summit]

-1 protecter +1 third informer sadly

[regal nova]

nth develops on it well

[brisk heath]

Even Bible Can t save this Demonic Creatures

[dire plank]

I like gg thats why I did it

[robust elk]

It replaces the info with the protection that you would use to get info

Same as

[short epoch]

The inf role will definitely be in the game, but I'm not sure about the cover role. Giving up the cover role to choose the inf role is not worth it

[robust elk]

Ayo

@glossy hatch I will sue you

[elder summit]

Yea it ok to be there but i feel really werid somehow

[robust elk]

Add to excluded

[short epoch]

but in late game, tg is very strong

[glossy hatch]

do you need extra votes when all village is active and good ?

except shadow situation

somehow wwf hits -2 d1 when shadow

[elder summit]

Preacher max vote : 😘

[short epoch]

Preacher should not be played because he is weak against

[elder summit]

Gg is safest option to pick

[flat blade]

Mayors just love to reveal themselves when a fixed wwfluencer is present

[short epoch]

i think is the best choise

[glossy hatch]

bro mayor tree when bandit game :

[elder summit]

I kinda hate somehow when i manipulate mayor and mayor flee

🙄

[short epoch]

rp them

[elder summit]

Now i choose to pick kitten wolf 😋

Just make myself die as fast as i can

Chaos beginning who turned ? 🤣

[glossy hatch]

bro they're trying to nerf wolffluencer bc it manipulates mayor all the time at #feedback-devs

it's gonna kill the role

[elder summit]

If mayor know it fixed wwf in game why tf you gonna reveal tho

[glossy hatch]

skill issue

[elder summit]

I just gonna not reveal until wwf dead

[glossy hatch]

one of the reasons i find mayor (tree) useless

[elder summit]

Or i rather die with unrevealed

[glossy hatch]

• extra votes doesnt do anything if village team is good and active
• when bandit turns:
• wolffluencer ig:
• free kill for sk if you reveal

currently i thought about these

[elder summit]

Upgrade to gg done

😇😇😇

[glossy hatch]

gg is good compared to its tree and nearly dodges all those situations

[short epoch]

I actually feel that the villagers are the strongest faction right now, but whenever a wolf is a little strong to make it easier for the wolf to win (but the village are still much stronger) they always try to nerf that wolf.

[glossy hatch]

which im happy i get gg in first try

[robust elk]

So you say bad because it is not good against a role that something like %15 of our community has and it is not guaranteed to be ig.

[robust elk]

Look

I am a wolf main

[elder summit]

I have a gg card form veteran it so good tbh

[robust elk]

And I suggested needed village nerfs too

But confusion needs that nerf %100

[glossy hatch]

for example

[elder summit]

Emo wolf powerful

[glossy hatch]

why vio advanced of sheriff

[robust elk]

Grave robber nerf

Enough

Zombie nerf

Enough

[elder summit]

Nerf doc can't protect n1

[short epoch]

The game always tries to nerf the wolf for fair reason, but really they are trying to make it easier for the villagers to win.

[glossy hatch]

is already balanced

[robust elk]

It ain’r

[glossy hatch]

"other" category doesn't always help ww

[elder summit]

Gr is balance tbh

[brisk heath]

Cursed Advanced Turning into Gunner makes so much Sense

[robust elk]

How a uncounterable -2 for playing balanced

[brisk heath]

AND MAY I ASK

[robust elk]

Cursed advanced giving a potential -10 with almost 0 counterplay is balanced yea.

[brisk heath]

[glossy hatch]

starting game with -2 village makes sense ?

[brisk heath]

[robust elk]

And doing it for playing is even more balanced

[brisk heath]

[glossy hatch]

wwf is balanced for the player

[brisk heath]

Which of them helps Village?

May I ask?

[glossy hatch]

but not for the village

[robust elk]

You know it prehand + if village so powerful in your opinion it is needed + but grave robber turns out of blue and hits a -2

[glossy hatch]

%80 of community as cupid

[robust elk]

Is it supposed to help village?

No

[brisk heath]

I don t say sandbox Cupid

[robust elk]

Grave robber is a sole villager

[elder summit]

Cupid is always solo in my mind specially in rank

[brisk heath]

Sandbox Cupids are “Gl couple”

[robust elk]

With a sprinkle of evil

[brisk heath]

My Cupid is

[glossy hatch]

wwf is a budget sorcerer

[short epoch]

, but you should help with 50% skill.

[robust elk]

We banned every evil that can be except and it is balanced and definitely not sided.

[short epoch]

50% for when ww turn you

[robust elk]

Still if you play grave robber, this is a message for you.

[short epoch]

i dont know should he help village. if u sure ur taget is village u should. but if taget not sure u shold keep slience

[glossy hatch]

one of them hits village hard & one of them hits ww hard and you are trying to nerf villager one

[robust elk]

If you play grave robber this is my message.

[robust elk]

Your target is villager %99 of the time.

[glossy hatch]

plot armor

[brisk heath]

Half of the Ww roles are Banned From Gr List 💀

[short epoch]

99% not mean 100%

[flat blade]

Sandbox cupids on their way to report you for shooting them (they claimed D1)

[glossy hatch]

why ?

[brisk heath]

“CuPiD iS a ViLlaGeR”

[robust elk]

It can’t be only me but %90 of the time %50 of the ww are banned.

[short epoch]

cp should help vill. bc u can win as village anf cpl

[brisk heath]

So for some reason

[robust elk]

If your couple alive

[brisk heath]

in Sandbox They ignore the couple Win condition When The couples are Both villagers

[robust elk]

That is gamethrow

[tranquil comet]

I got banned for shooting a cupid claim a long time ago, very funny

[brisk heath]

The problem is

I can t Complain about it but

[short epoch]

help vill not mean ignore cpl

[glossy hatch]

(except a 2 ww 2 vill 1 cupid situation)

[brisk heath]

The ban is %100 Unnecessary and they remove it when you tell them what happened

[robust elk]

Only that

[elder summit]

Cupid is only shootable in rank 🤣 most of sb players can't accept cupid as solo

[robust elk]

Also I wanna ask something and I will make a feedback accordingly.

[brisk heath]

But once I got a 48 Ban and The guardian Removed it after 46 Hours

[tranquil comet]

it took a long time for ranked players to adjust to that, took entire clans to enforce that idea

[glossy hatch]

bc cupid is a villager but its wc is couple

[robust elk]

How is astronomer in your opinion?
op
bad
balanced

[short epoch]

op

[brisk heath]

[glossy hatch]

balanced

[brisk heath]

Well if you Don t like Astro Claim Astro As Cupid

[tranquil comet]

doesn’t matter as its primary skill is a zero skill one tap guaranteed save that requires niche counters for astro to use their one braincell for once

[brisk heath]

Tried , Confirmed ,Suggested

[glossy hatch]

you can't die without using your potion but less flexibility in killing / cupid tree situation

[robust elk]

Please vote if you think something about astronomer

[elder summit]

Ranked player r like ape they evolved slowly in past season to season

[short epoch]

seer is op too. In wolvesvillge. all role are reveal when die. so seer very op

[robust elk]

Also less protection capacity.

[tranquil comet]

they evolve backwards not forwards

and thats not their fault even

[glossy hatch]

i don't include that bc your pot is already used by n2 if you mention sk

but less mental protection

ig ?

[brisk heath]

I really hate when peoples say

[robust elk]

@brisk heath and @tranquil comet can you vote pls.

[brisk heath]

“Witch might die with potions”

in Ranked

[tranquil comet]

if u just click the protection skill and theres no kww, idk how it works with berserk or etc then ww just lose a kill free of charge

[short epoch]

is suitable for werewolf games that do not show roles when they die

[brisk heath]

They have Alr Found a solution For this in Ranked

[elder summit]

My sp go backwards too 💀

[brisk heath]

“Claim Witch Killing random”

[tranquil comet]

its “op” in a way that theres no thinking behind it

[glossy hatch]

it would be the base role of witch tree if it couldnt counter berserk

[tranquil comet]

witch requires the same amount of thinking doc does to save someone

[robust elk]

Imo no self protect and it is done.

So it seems a tie between balanced and overpowered

[tranquil comet]

stop just thinking about how strong a skill is but also how easy it is

1 protect is almost the same value as a kill if u think about it

[brisk heath]

Y

[robust elk]

Even tho every astronomer hater will like the post which will get 100 likes I will make a random feedback about my random nerf idea. The post will be the most biased post.

[short epoch]

villager stronger than ww. Fact

[brisk heath]

Depends

[robust elk]

Imo gunner can get 2 kills instead of astro getting 1 moon

[short epoch]

ssame player skill

[brisk heath]

But Nvm

[tranquil comet]

so are those kills always going to be good for village?

[brisk heath]

After seeing Double and Double

[glossy hatch]

@robust elk
also i dont think forger requieres skill bc you forge shield n1 and want protection after giving it to an informer if cupid isnt ig

[brisk heath]

everything is possible

Uhm no

Just forge sword n1

Don t be a loser

[glossy hatch]

no

jww ig

[brisk heath]

we will give sword to Flower child

Who gives sword to det

[glossy hatch]

fc is a free kill for sk

[tranquil comet]

you can give a sword the first or second round, depends on your style and also the lobby

[brisk heath]

Nah

[tranquil comet]

just by midgame the sword is already given

[brisk heath]

Nobody Likes Fc

💀

[short epoch]

paci is useful than

[glossy hatch]

bc it is useless like mayor, no benefit if village is good

why did my english drop at a1 level 😒

[robust elk]

Imo giving to informers are trash

Giving to better

+2

Fool on your side and a sworded fool uses for hood

[glossy hatch]

trapping fool is better

ww attacks fool when 3 ppl left

[glossy hatch]

i only give it bc qg can't trust me if im not confirmed by informer

doc only protects if
: i have shield, doc on forger

[regal nova]

Nah

if is unbanned then ain't rlly an issue

Just don't get read

and boom
becomes

[brisk heath]

I like preacher

[regal nova]

I do to

too

current preacher

[brisk heath]

it does has a good Synergy with most of the roles

made me Love

[regal nova]

There's like
4 balanced rrvs from 2.0+ (I forgot when I said 3)

[brisk heath]

Now I %100 Support the usage of

[regal nova]

and two of them weren't even balanced on release

[robust elk]

Um why unbalanced?

[regal nova]

I also support my enemies making my game easier

[regal nova]

-1 rrv with little to no risk

• negating
• faster

[glossy hatch]

it is balanced :

• no extra bullet
• safe lynch when fool ig

[robust elk]

So does every role in priest role tree

[glossy hatch]

lynching = bullet

[robust elk]

Imo your point of view is kind of messed up.

[regal nova]

False

priest doesn't invalidate entifely unless they target player in question is targetted by the 1 use ability

[robust elk]

Don’t compare with , compare with

[regal nova]

as opposed to

[robust elk]

Also if you can’t dodge rrv why you don’t claim

[regal nova]

where solo voters have to wait to play the gand

[robust elk]

Imo only annoyed me when double mayor

[regal nova]

bruh who's and who's in that scenarii 💀

[robust elk]

And your point of view that says proving > value is just wrong imo

[regal nova]

*Proving > +X votes

for vill

[glossy hatch]

this is correct for vill

[regal nova]

Yes

hence

[glossy hatch]

but you need those extra votes if village nub

[regal nova]

preacher < gg < baker ≈ mayor

[robust elk]

Using skill to prove yourself and get value > be useless and prove yourself easily because you can’t probe skilled way.

[regal nova]

Yea but you can't account compitency for balance

for what it's worth
in the hands of a plant i'd rsther them be baker than mayor

[robust elk]

I think village can vote someone else until confirmed n2.

[regal nova]

wrong reply or i'm missing sth

brb

[robust elk]

No it is what I think

[regal nova]

Ok but

[robust elk]

Roles shouldn’t be listed with provability because people has skill issues and can’t use actual skill to win a counterclaim which is the whole point of the game that brings fun and they trade the missed skill with roles ability which is not fine imo.

[regal nova]

it just didn't acknocledge the other msg

brb fr

[glossy hatch]

this is also wrong bc gg mutes even if she died

which can save one of the common scenarios:

[regal nova]

irrelevant to my logic

[glossy hatch]

2 vill 1 ww 1 solo

[regal nova]

1
no wolf equivelant of baker

2
gg has greater risk proving

I'm not sayinf there aren't scenarios where gg is better

but overall gg is worse

[glossy hatch]

can mute annoying people 🤡

[marsh wyvern]

Imo gg is more fun

Which is also important

[glossy hatch]

overall mayor tree bad

[regal nova]

nah

mayor baker proven

-1 rrv on d1

with 0 risk

[glossy hatch]

bandit and wolffluencer

[regal nova]

Situational

[glossy hatch]

also mayor is a free kill for sk

[marsh wyvern]

Wolffluencer most likely can't affect baker

[regal nova]

moreover

[regal nova]

actually
elaborate on the bd argument

doesn't work for mayor cos mayor stops being mayor on conversion

oh

you meant respectively

bd for baker & wflu for mayor

i see

[glossy hatch]

all mayor tree gets destroyed bc they lose their provability which is bad for player and good for village

[regal nova]

Well

In the context of bd

the role never becomes evil

and 9 times of 10

when someone talks abt the balance of a town role

they mean as a villager

[glossy hatch]

i don't support something if it's different for player and team

ex : wwf

good for player, bad for village

bc normally village shouldn't have a thrower among them + -2 votes

[regal nova]

wait

it's wwf

so it would be evaluated as a wolf

yea?

[glossy hatch]

yes

[regal nova]

as far as that goes

[glossy hatch]

but the problem is

base role is village and base role fixed

[regal nova]

i'd raise you in the context of setups

basides the point

where were we?

oh yea

[regal nova]

These are situational

[glossy hatch]

yes

[regal nova]

& have no right spawning on top of roles as randomly as they do

[glossy hatch]

having afk / inactive players on your side is situational too but overall its just a reveable forky which doesnt benefit as other roles to village

(i dont say having a revealed rrv on your side is bad, they can lead whole team)

[mystic isle]

omg me too!! which mythic are you getting first 🤔

[robust elk]

Probably or

But probably

Because 2 actually fun and skill taking roles that has high value and a braindead role that I can use when my brain ain’t braining.

[marsh wyvern]

Me shaman too

Because all three advanced roles can be useful at different games

[glossy hatch]

i don't want to use my brain always when playing this game

[mystic isle]

Hold on, is fleeing a kill cause?

:)

[marsh wyvern]

Don't think so

[glossy hatch]

no

[mystic isle]

right... that would be OP

[marsh wyvern]

Can't wait to change the kill cause to most ridiculous way like gunner shooting with no gunner in game

Or mm shooting a villager role

[glossy hatch]

bh trap killed president

[marsh wyvern]

Oh noo

Village lost

Report bh

[glossy hatch]

tbh

great way to disguise kitten ww

[marsh wyvern]

😐

That's..

Not so useful

[glossy hatch]

kitten fakes det, witch kills det(kitten), ww turns someone

they dont know if kww died or not

or

ww frenzy killed bg

[marsh wyvern]

You think they will kill the real det that easily while knowing scribe wolf is in game?

[glossy hatch]

its not about faking det

its about hiding kitten's death

normally

[marsh wyvern]

They would understand

[glossy hatch]

attack bh intentionally

faking det was just an example

[marsh wyvern]

They even understand if a non-villager other than hh or fool claims a fake informer and gives fake info in order to mislynch a player is a kitten wolf

[glossy hatch]

you don't have to

fake informer

enchance kitten and attack bh

[marsh wyvern]

That wouldn't change anything since bh would say player that died was kitten.

[glossy hatch]

bh claims are sus when scribe ig

if i wrote correctly that role's name 💀

[marsh wyvern]

You did i think

[glossy hatch]

anyway

it needs skill

and hard to play

but have great features

scribe will be best when they're random ww

@marsh wyvern
or another strat, kill someone and enchance them as cursed if you turned cursed

if med not ig, it shouldnt be a problem

[marsh wyvern]

What kind of strategy is this💀

[glossy hatch]

still requires some scum reading

[marsh wyvern]

Wouldn't they understand since cursed cannot be killed by werewolves

[glossy hatch]

cursed killed by sk

[marsh wyvern]

Oh

That actually makes sense however

If sk also kills

Then they may understand what's going on

[glossy hatch]

then it would be 50/50

since i can use this to cc cursed

[marsh wyvern]

Also that's one use right?

Because infinite uses sounds broken

[glossy hatch]

more than 1 prob

[marsh wyvern]

Since you can bypass sheriff and mortician

[torpid sparrow]

Didnt have lovers mayor
L
Didnt have birthday baker
L
Didnt have cozy GG
L
Didnt have the weird blue preacher
L

[glossy hatch]

it's not stated but i think it will be 1 or 2

cuz conf has 2

[marsh wyvern]

If it's not stated that means it's either one use or infinite uses

But definitely not 2 or 3 or idk uses

[glossy hatch]

nah cant be infinite

ww kills can trigger it

[torpid sparrow]

So lets say
Ww kills someone but hides it as sk kill
So the message will be Player was stabbed by sk
Instead of werewolves killed the Player