speculations

[robust elk]

Vote 4 this time

Learn balance changes

[steady quiver]

Guys can u vote 1? I really need to know what it is

[robust elk]

We know 1 and 3 anyways

1 is avatar sharing

[steady quiver]

Oh

[robust elk]

You can copy player’s avatars from their profile or they add a code to the avatars and that code lets you copy the outfit

[steady quiver]

Nooice

[robust elk]

This is 3

[steady quiver]

Yea ik 3

I‘m really mad they are bringing honor back

It will be abused again

[calm nimbus]

I'm madder that they are bringing siren lol

[steady quiver]

I‘m maddest they are bringing ft ig💀🤣

[calm nimbus]

They brought both roles everyone complained about 👍

[steady quiver]

Both roles need a buff

[robust elk]

And this is 1

[calm nimbus]

I'd rather spy than siren ngl

[steady quiver]

Ikr instead of bringing better roles that we actually like, like toxic ww or locksmith

[calm nimbus]

Even anarchist

[calm nimbus]

Locksmith op

[teal ravine]

Anar is fun, shrimp is basically garbage

[robust elk]

Locksmith wasnt that loved and beloved

[calm nimbus]

But toxic and lurker were the best opinions

[steady quiver]

It isn‘t that op tbh

[robust elk]

Toxic as shadow advanced and lurker as gr base was the best choices

[steady quiver]

Anarchist kinda hard to win with

[calm nimbus]

Provable protector = op

[daring gust]

Do you know if it can be disabled on your profile?

[robust elk]

But I wasnt around the locksmith time how was it?

[calm nimbus]

But at least it doesnt break game balance like siren

[steady quiver]

That way nwm is op….

[calm nimbus]

Bh bg but you prove yourself badically

[robust elk]

No since it is just player using your outfits

[calm nimbus]

He is

[steady quiver]

Ok true

[daring gust]

Bunch of minions soon 😂

[calm nimbus]

Nwm is op lmao you cant argue otherwise

[robust elk]

Like if you have a outfit your friend can copy it from your profile so I dont see a problem

[robust elk]

Nwm is best protecter being a better informer

A role that can block fake rrv and protecter claims is just op

[calm nimbus]

Locksmith isnt informer but a protector that prove himself as rrv shouldnt exist

[robust elk]

You claimed rrv vio oh sorry dearie rrvs are both protecters

Ghost lady is fun to

[calm nimbus]

Ghost lady is different

You can prove yourself but you must save first and then you are in danger

So I think gl is perfectly balanced

[teal ravine]

End-night rks : 😭😭😭

[charred drift]

it shouldnt be reportable for rl and gl to try to get free self protection

[calm nimbus]

It isnt? Lol

[charred drift]

it apparently is

some mod or smth said it

because rl "isnt doing its purpose of info"

[calm nimbus]

I'd rather have no info but one more villager ngl

Especially when rl is usually third informer

[charred drift]

agreed

[regal nova]

(3)

[dim trout]

Where is lurker?
#dev-vote message

[charred drift]

Balance changes

• Astro nerf frfr

[edgy snow]

no

[dim trout]

Why being added while it's actually garbage at everything?

Idk about , i didn't got chance to try it in sandbox

[dapper summit]

Siren is a good role for boosting

[tranquil comet]

lol i think we know the reason now

[dim trout]

But is still sounds like a random pick

[finite nest]

Yeah, i want so badly

[dim trout]

Same. I have 12 card prepared for it.

[finite nest]

I would have liked more than

[dim trout]

Is there any way to bribe devs to buy lurker before it's release?

[humble current]

Yes

[dim trout]

[daring gust]

Thought lurker was gonna get added

[humble current]

lurker this lurker that

how about you lurk around your history schoolbook

[robust elk]

I thought lurker and toxic was gonna release not this 2 piece of unliked roles

[humble current]

tbh tho I don't like ft, definitely would've preferred lurker instead

[daring gust]

Ah siren simp

[robust elk]

Siren is weaker than arso 💀

[finite nest]

Man ft went from S tier to Z tier

[robust elk]

Siren has 1 kill rate while other advanced have 1,5

Siren was only fun when you got shot d1

[daring gust]

Don’t think it’s weaker 😂

[robust elk]

It was

[daring gust]

It isn’t 😂

[robust elk]

Arso had more kill rate

[dim trout]

: Yay. I'm getting released!
:

[robust elk]

Side note
Kimberly said toxic will release too so might get a mid season toxic

Lurker + spy and anarchist + locksmith will be tested in sb

[regal nova]

i would rather have lurker than the current ft tbh

Spy is weird but it forces evils to play the ga,e

game

[dim trout]

will be used by ~4 people.

[robust elk]

If I get ft I will found my new sacrifice

[regal nova]

Somehow I thought the devs were above 3 mayors

[robust elk]

Ft will be lm adv

[regal nova]

🤦‍♂️

[regal nova]

it's literally mayor

[dim trout]

[robust elk]

Worse mayor

[regal nova]

kinda

[robust elk]

I want bell ringer yes

[regal nova]

objectively, but also marginally

[robust elk]

DING DING DING

[regal nova]

it's main strength is -1 rrv

same as baker

and ft

[robust elk]

Also br preacher and sherrif got indirect buffs

[dim trout]

If you have or , you probably don't want .

[regal nova]

huh?

[robust elk]

I dont TwT

[regal nova]

they got shadow-buffed?

[robust elk]

Siren gets hard countered by them

[regal nova]

I might sacc av

even

[dim trout]

I have avenger from veteran card so....

[robust elk]

I dont but I want br

Also balance changes will be leaked next get ready for some spice

The changes will be big prob

[dim trout]

The first word i will see is nerf.

[robust elk]

Storm buff and insti nerf is confirmed atm

And we speculating baker buff

[finite nest]

I hope so

[robust elk]

Astro will get something like you have a 1 day wait for other astros to use moon

[finite nest]

I heard some people say that is stronger than

[robust elk]

Like d1 used
D2 blocked etc

Forger has best killing ability that belongs to a rrv forger is strong

[dim trout]

Its not. is a 🦥

[finite nest]

Exactly

I mean it is fun to play as

But not stronger than astro

[robust elk]

Definitely funnier than astro

I think forger can be better

Since sword can be used anytime and shield is constant protection

[dim trout]

Wolvesville players when they chooses role for fun:

[robust elk]

Yeah who asked for me?

I never wanted astro it is boring and kinda overrated imo

[dim trout]

I wanted to craft forger

and what i got....

A FREAKIN

[robust elk]

I never loved it fint it boring you sleep after pushing buttons there is no strat

[dim trout]

Ofc i sacrificed it

[robust elk]

Maybe I am a bully haver and I say f astros that is the reason

Since astros cant ensure that I will be protected that is a big no no for me

And I think you can save with witch and have more fun

[dim trout]

Astro is just boring. It's tru. 3 click

[robust elk]

Play baldy

He has so much love and power

See he has so much love

[dim trout]

Assassin skin is a lot cooler ngl

[robust elk]

Bunny forger so lovely

[robust elk]

He looks badass there

I find gr boring too

You sleep until your tg dead

And you get bh from it

[dim trout]

Then getting killed

[robust elk]

Play wwf and create chaos and mass destruction

People think wwf dies to mm and has evil aura 💀

And some people said to me you are still village dont gamethrow

[dim trout]

Wwf is fun.... but it doesn't mean it's a good role

[robust elk]

Or they just claim fool d1

Wwf is good since it is a 5th undetectable chaos creater reflecting ww

Think like kww

There is a already turned ww who still acts like a villager

[dim trout]

i still hate those people who turn

[robust elk]

Only power wwf has is not being turned

A good aura a reflecting shield and already turned ww

Turning him just makes you get less progress

Since killing a villager gets a villager power down

[dim trout]

Unpopular opinion: is overrated.

[robust elk]

And turning wwf just nerfs you

[robust elk]

Conj is op half the time

Also I have suffered enough to rely on these players

[dim trout]

Still no +1 village

[finite nest]

The only time i fan converting useful is late game when you need that extra step to work toward win con

[robust elk]

Killing gives same thing

Killing does the same job

Since it has no condition

[robust elk]

Other than that conju is just +

[dim trout]

If everything depends on wwf converting for win, that's fine.

[robust elk]

Killing does the same job so there is no logic in turning wwf

[dim trout]

If you are winning anyway, then win together.

[robust elk]

They say wolflu will be shadow advanced 💀

[robust elk]

You always win with ww team?

[dim trout]

💀

Who said that

and ?

Must be some kind of joke

[robust elk]

Saying wolflu and shadow fits together = saying rl and gl fits together since they visit and has lady in the name

[solar ravine]

Converting wwfan is a dumb way

[robust elk]

One is a balancer one is a killer

[robust elk]

A lot of people

Well we will se today

[solar ravine]

So far
Avenger=bellringer > Lm > FT

FT is trash

[robust elk]

Since they will sneak peak the balance changes

Br underrated

[tranquil comet]

pro avenger > pro bellringer

[robust elk]

Pro avenger doesnt work half the time

[dim trout]

My statemant still stand by: would be a better choose to be released.

[robust elk]

Find solo

[tranquil comet]

unfortunately im a nub so i play BR lol

[robust elk]

Lurker as gr base

[solar ravine]

yes, i prefer lurker or anything else but not fortune teller

[dim trout]

It will be cursed adv

[solar ravine]

FT helps ww alot

So bad

[robust elk]

That is what I stand for

Lurker will be released as gr base making gr team and aura none and unk to fit it more since gr is a buffed lurker

That is what I think

[solar ravine]

Another boring update???
No rework + only siren is interseting

Interesting*

[tranquil comet]

would rather rework lurker to a cupid advanced that strictly helps other solo roles win

[robust elk]

Bellringer preacher and sherrif gonna milk siren so hard 😭

[dim trout]

I miss those times when we got a good updates. Ahem... cozy update.

[robust elk]

Our leak dealer said toxic will release this bp and will be tested together while and locksmith will be tested

[dim trout]

...

It has 0.001% win rate

[solar ravine]

Red lady n bandit never got any new advanced

[dim trout]

Now we get a poker dealer and a fish

[tranquil comet]

they can add another protector/informer hybrid since jailer, rl and sher (or mb bg) will have one advanced

[solar ravine]

And shadow ww too

[tranquil comet]

they could've added a better rk role

#dev-vote message

like this one

[dim trout]

[robust elk]

Someone suggested make tg rl advanced, make gl bg advanced with 2 saves and make sa sherrif advanced

[dim trout]

Why not seer app?

seer app for rl...

would be better

[robust elk]

Seer app would be too op for rl

Since both rl and tg dies when get info and both sherrif and sa get info when someone else dies

[tranquil comet]

sheriff and seer app are good semi protectors

they dont protect directly but get info

[robust elk]

Seer app is actual berserk counter

[tranquil comet]

does it protect from frenzying on gunner and etc? lol

i guess sheriff does

[solar ravine]

Loooool i just got LM card then arso after. Preparing for the update

[robust elk]

Gunner etc are exceptions

At least seer app is not like astro players that think they baited it while berserk dodged it and will kill seer tomorrow

1 and 3 already being leaked makes it easy to vote

3 is honor season

1 is costume sharing

[steady quiver]

sheriff is a direct wwb counter hence why it's one of my favorite roles

also it's just fun predicting who will die

[steady quiver]

I support this change

makes a lot more sense than what it is rn

gl as bg advanced should still only get 1 save imo, 2 saves is way too op for a role than can't be killed no matter how many times they're directly attacked

[robust elk]

But you bond to them and one save would only delay

And why are you attacking bg directly

But 2 would save someone at least

[steady quiver]

Gl saving someone else is only their secondary ability, saving themself is their primary goal

[dapper summit]

The counts we're deleted 🥲. I want 4. To ne shown

[robust elk]

Gl is a protecter and gl only delays a kill if bonds to people and would be weak since tg at least gets info

So it needs 2 saves imo

[steady quiver]

Gl gets info too, just that the person is good

[robust elk]

Like any protecter

Doc can get info too

I saved someone from ww so they are not ww and gl can do that too

[steady quiver]

Yeah but who doc protected won't know who doc is but that's different for gl

[robust elk]

That is the upside of gl but it isnt enough to balance it as a bg advanced

Since it only delays a kill

[steady quiver]

Tg technically delays a kill too

Bg*

just that they take the hit when they save a 2nd time

it's still -1 village

[robust elk]

Tg gets info

While gl dont

[steady quiver]

Tg is rl advanced

[robust elk]

And bg has 1 save guaranteed

And gl wont be able to compete with bf

Bg*

[steady quiver]

gl is definitely able to compete with bg

[robust elk]

Gl would need 2 saves to balanxe

Bg is a main protecter while gl is a side protecter

And gl has only delay and getting more value as gl needs fakinf

[steady quiver]

The whole point of gl is to fake and bait ppl

If you're not already doing that you're not playing the role right

[robust elk]

But you cant do that as a main protecter

I do

But gl fits rrv more and wouldnt be able to compete with a main protecter

But gl is fon

[tranquil comet]

games with no main protector can be wild, chaotic and fun

[robust elk]

My sacrifice list :

My sacrifice receivers:

[steady quiver]

sacrifice receivers?

ooh card upgrades

[robust elk]

Golden card candidates would be more fitting

[steady quiver]

My sac list is just and for now

I like my other roles

[robust elk]

I love kww soo

[steady quiver]

Kww makes me traumatized due to the number of dumb teammates I've encountered in the past. So many tried turning seer night 2 after I died day 1. Or worse, confirmed fool 🤦‍♀️

Split wolf is so much more fun to play, clutches a lot of the time especially if many villagers go afk. I love wolfflu too but I never survive long enough for my +2 votes to actually make a difference 🥲

[torpid sparrow]

Wolffulencer casusally turning the game 180°

Wolffu>split>=kww>jww

[steady quiver]

Not if you're found by rrv sheriff day 1, or just killed by rk in general

[torpid sparrow]

Its a huge hit or miss as wolffu

[steady quiver]

I think ≥ > =

wolffluencer is too risky for my taste bc you offer no benefit to the ww team after you die unlike the others. also bc bh/trapper/sheriff/morti always kills or finds the jww role tree first so you'll have to be extra diligent about avoiding potential potholes

but ofc it's extremely rewarding if you do manage to survive late game past nights 4-5

[dusky perch]

agree

[robust elk]

Split is easier to use while kww and wolflu is more rewardig than split + jww

Rewarding
= > =
Hardness
= > >
Fun
All of them is equal imo

Kww closes 2 player gaps if I am right

Or it doesnt idk

[dawn parcel]

Toxic was just a speculation of mine though I knew about Siren and Ft

but based on this that means and will be tested together and with

[robust elk]

Oof

We all wanted lurker + toxic and they massacred us

I wanted toxic and lurker as gr base but ehem they did something

Kimberly rude people say wolflu will be shadow advanced is that true

[dawn parcel]

I honestly don't know myself we'll have to wait for the vote results

though for me wolfflu will still be too weak as shadow advanced

[robust elk]

Shadow has a kill + a save so it is buffed wolflu

[next cedar]

Lurker needs a buff tbh even tho I like the role

Hmmm

We should do science on that

But we need a third person to test it

[frozen summit]

👀

im up to it iyw

[next cedar]

K

Just tell us the code

[frozen summit]

no pw needed

[next cedar]

More conveinient to stop randos tho

[frozen summit]

no randoms joining 👀

It was really interesting

[next cedar]

That was very good science

[frozen summit]

yeah

[next cedar]

Yeah

Even though it is technically rl dying to an evil Ig it is a vill ability that causes the death

[sudden urchin]

what was the outcome?

[frozen summit]

One thing to add

[sudden urchin]

wow that's kinda cool

[frozen summit]

It says to rl that they visited a good player

Seems a bug that

[next cedar]

Huh

Did you screen shot it

[frozen summit]

No

[next cedar]

Shame

[frozen summit]

yh but i’ll report it in #1052307474654433310 asap I wake up

[silent orchid]

I think the image with the shirt and the swap thing in the vote for reveals about the update is revealing the thing we’re you would give you friend a code to wear the same outfit as you.

[thick lotus]

I'm hoping they're releasing a trade feature

[plucky jay]

Yea biga it's been leaked

[thick lotus]

Wait actually what

What is itit

[plucky jay]

Yea it's been leaked that you can share outfits using codes

Lemme see if I can find the pic

[thick lotus]

Ohh that's cool too ig lol

But they should make a card trade feature for next BP update

[plucky jay]

yea they should

Here's the leak

[thick lotus]

Well if that's not it then let's cross our fingers for the feature to let's u pick from all of our obtained advanced roles of one base role

Us*

[thick lotus]

Ooo

[plucky jay]

I don't think they would let us do that 😞

what are your thoughts on the new battle pass?

[thick lotus]

Well idk they might. It was given as feedback to devs and it got hella upvoted

[plucky jay]

Seems like most people like it

We can only hope

[thick lotus]

Im excited. I feel like the dark love battlepass didn't get a lot of hype as much as all the other ones like I feel like it was just there. This astrology update is cool though

[plucky jay]

yea the dark love bp was meh

[thick lotus]

Yeah lmao

And it was probably bc of the theme too. There wasnt a whole lot you could do with that yk

[plucky jay]

they tried

[thick lotus]

Yeah they did and the outfits were pretty too

[plucky jay]

all of them except for that red one

That's hideous

[thick lotus]

The red one was fine but I personally like the toxic one or the clown one

[thick lotus]

You have to keep in mind that the devs did not make them. They were made by our fellow community members so please keep things like that on your mind given the fact that they worked hard for it to be a part of the game

[plucky jay]

Yes, I apologize, but which clown outfit are you referring to?

[thick lotus]

Well I wouldn't consider it a clown outfit but it's the one with the clown nose and the clown eyes with deadlove in the background

[thick lotus]

And thank you for understanding and not getting rude and defensive like most would

[plucky jay]

Oh yes that clown outfit

and ofc.. I made an insensitive comment

I guess that is a clown now that I'm thinking of it

[thick lotus]

Lol yeah

[warm gate]

Hi, just curious. Since is coming back, will eligible players get veteran cards for it? 🤔

[dawn parcel]

Nope

[lone spade]

säd

would have been cool

[half citrus]

no vet ft

[dim trout]

No

I'm still mad that they release over

[clever torrent]

I waiting for toxic ww. And instead of toxic ww, we get the siren 😂

[coarse sedge]

Fr, Lurker is much better to play and fun to play
Why people want to buff lurker ? Just becuz they cant kill ?

[next cedar]

They aint gonna release two solos at the same time

And lurker still needs a buff so that it can kill after every teamate died

[dim trout]

I remember when we wanted to buff insti, and after he got the option to kill, now he is getting nerf.

I think is fine as it is.

[next cedar]

Look the difference is the base role, cursed gains the ability to kill when turned, but lurker just doesn’t

[coarse sedge]

But he can join any team though which is something unique to him

Except random voting

[dim trout]

That's... ww.

[next cedar]

Fine lets go to gr then, that role can gain killpower without becoming a ww, what then

[dim trout]

From my side you can give a power to kill after his teammates died, but i don't want to see a nerf afterward.

[boreal kraken]

I have a hunch that [4] in #dev-vote message may be related to this #dev-vote message

And [3] could be #dev-vote message
Or #feedback-devs message

[warm gate]

Oh, sad 🥲
Gotta grind for a loudmouth card then

[half citrus]

wait why do you even grind for a reworked ft

[warm gate]

I just want it for collection heheh

[steady quiver]

i think number 4 means that wolvesville will be on steam

[torpid sparrow]

Oh yeah

4 can be role changes

[short epoch]

4 maybw steam

[daring parcel]

steam was announced in a channel afair

[dawn cairn]

if 4 steam thing that would be disappointing

[daring parcel]

4 is 90% only role reworks I guess

[proud crescent]

is there a set time after posting the vote when they reveal the number that was voted?

[daring parcel]

afaik not

it's just revealed the next day in some hours

and after that next vote posted till only 1 thing to reveal left

[steep hinge]

I think 4 is werewolf balance changes

1. New challenges for bps

3. Uhhhhh

[daring parcel]

or maybe the feature to change skins in rounds to avoid skin targeting

[daring parcel]

3 is probably "ranked 2.0"

[somber mauve]

ghost lady getting a buff 100%

[proud crescent]

i think its the feature that was a vote some time ago, copying skins from other people with codes or smth

[dawn parcel]

1 is most likely skin sharing with code

[steady quiver]

cant wait to see 4

[cold cypress]

I'm 95% sure 3 is honor S2 but will see 👀

[torpid sparrow]

Honor

[daring parcel]

nu not honor

I not want it back

[torpid sparrow]

Sadly 😔

[daring parcel]

nu

[torpid sparrow]

here (HONOR REWARD SPOILERS)

[daring parcel]

ranked more important than honor

[daring parcel]

nu why

from all things honor

why

it was abused so badly

[proud crescent]

especially so many people voted to remove honor. i really hope they dont bring it back

[tropic blade]

@robust elk @dire plank DO YOU WANT MY BULLY REWORK NOW?

#dev-vote message can you concuss the same player twice after killing twice?

if so this is just random concuss day 1

[dire plank]

what was ur rework

[tropic blade]

lol xd

[raven fossil]

same. I was so angry as somone in my clan told, that it will come back

[tropic blade]

I mean 3 seems honor

and 1 is TRADING AND SKIN INVESTMENT LIKE IN CSGO

YOU WILL NOW BE ABLE TO BUY AND SELL SKINS IN EXCHANGE OF REAL LIFE MONEY

BECOME RICH IN WOLVESVILLE, PLAY NOW

[tranquil comet]

I’ll take the role changes at least, since those changes are extra lethal in row wars in particular 😂

[tranquil comet]

apparently theres a nerf for H4H so we gotta vote 3️⃣ to see what it is

[tropic blade]

eww

i would still do h4h

because honor cant be achieved in proper ways atm

[proud crescent]

storm wolf is still useless cuz you can just make a note with every info and names instead of numbers. just more annoying

[tropic blade]

storm ww is useless because you can use memory

[proud crescent]

and that too xd

[tropic blade]

faking info is useless because you can think whos fake

[tranquil comet]

so when are they adding to chain reaction 😏

[proud crescent]

tbh they should just delete storm wolf (for the moment)

[tranquil comet]

keep it in customs at least :/

[tropic blade]

I liked first storm ww

[tranquil comet]

just be pro gaslighter 😱

[tropic blade]

the storm ww that could switch roles like

1 on 1

[dark creek]

Any ideas about this?

[tawny cosmos]

Honor

[dark creek]

I think is smt about new honor system, or ranked update... or new gamemode for gems

[tawny cosmos]

^

[dark creek]

You sure in this?

[tawny cosmos]

Yea

[dark creek]

Ah, ok, ty

[tawny cosmos]

Its obv honor cuz this hat is one of honor rewards

[loud girder]

Maybe advenced of bg

[loud girder]

Uhhh idk

[loud girder]

Oh

[signal crystal]

good buffs but this update is disappointing

[frozen summit]

it was leaked on instagram so yes

👀

[dawn cairn]

it's good update
there was better updates but not bad one

[dawn parcel]

the inf rocks wasn't a joke 😭

Bully gonna be meta now

[proud crescent]

just why.

they asked us in a vote about our opinion. so many people wanted to remove honor. why dont they listen to us?

[raven fossil]

I hate it even though it isn't there yet

[thorny tree]

@sage oxide Hi deleted a message of you advertising an insta account - pls read rules

[torpid sparrow]

HOLY SHEET

HOLY SHEET

BULLY BUFF

BULLY BUFF IS REAAAAAL

[steady quiver]

i was righr

🎉

[torpid sparrow]

@vocal imp you might wanna check out #dev-vote

[charred drift]

BULLY BUFF NOOOO

NUB PEOPLE DIDNT KNOW HOW TO PLAY NOW ITS FREE CONCUSS FOR SHADOW

[torpid sparrow]

@charred drift cope

[charred drift]

NO COPE

IT WAS GOOD NOW ITS BROKEN

time to get it 🙄

more throwing potential uay

time to see them kill seer,medium and block other confirmed goods

[lethal gale]

what happens if you try to concuss a second time after you've already gotten two kills?

doesn't do anything or you get the rock effects again

[cosmic ridge]

Bully on top

[coarse wolf]

Damn player notes cleared

[cosmic ridge]

[coarse wolf]

Thats a good buff for storm wolf

[cosmic ridge]

Yes

[coarse wolf]

I never choose bully but now i think i might

Still a risky role

[lethal gale]

can't clear my clipboard

[coarse wolf]

But not more risky than gunner

[fleet hawk]

Nowhere close to screencap + paper notes

[coarse wolf]

lmao who makes paper notes

I always play on the go

[lethal gale]

that's commitment to making sww sad

[cosmic ridge]

>

[fleet hawk]

Lmao i only make paper note when storm ig or when i try to win as a non-vill for daily challange

[fleet hawk]

I was thinking of abandoning my second vigi card, now im reconsidering

[torpid sparrow]

it wont allow you to

[lethal gale]

never thought I'd get bully after my golden gunner

[fleet hawk]

Besides its rare for this scenario to happen cuz u need to survive until day 6 + ww and rk will try to get rid of u asap anyway

[lethal gale]

true that

[torpid sparrow]

It will be like FVR in town of salem

Just rock someone

Ask role tomorrow

If they give role, rock someone else

If they dont. Murder

[fleet hawk]

I dont play terms of service, whats FVR?

[torpid sparrow]

People start from top of the list(player1) and gradually make their way to the end (player15) if a player claims a role. They will be skipped. If they dont. They will be voted off

Its like rolecall but more civilized

[fleet hawk]

So another way to shoo shoo afk people

[teal ravine]

Ppls in sandbox : iF i cLAiM i wIlL dIe

[gloomy cargo]

I gifted the calendar too a friend and im just wondering do I get an EE for this one... cause I can't see to find it anywhere in my inv😅

[loud widget]

Maybe ranked Update 🤔

[opaque mulch]

It's a gravestone. You can preview these things in the "gifting" tab

[gloomy cargo]

ohh I forgot about that feature 😂 thanks anyways Dot

[opaque mulch]

Anytime!

[tropic blade]

im not sure if this change is good or bad tbh

the bully one I mean

and i would honestly separate hiding voting from the rest of stuff

when it comes to storm ww

opens possibilities further when it comes to gaming

[dim trout]

buff sounds pretty cool, but... I will still use gunner. Ye... i'm not patient sometimes.

is....

[dawn parcel]

Storm could work now

2 shuffles now with clear chat + player notes reset with it

[dim trout]

Not really. Name and skin still can be remember'd. ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[dawn parcel]

But the Bully buff

I think it's kinda uhhh

Too much

[robust elk]

It seems pretty gud to me

Ngl I wanted a buff like you if you concuss kill you can concuss same day again

[dawn parcel]

But as for the rest that's left

[brisk heath]

Bully buff isn t that much

[dawn parcel]

1. Skin sharing with codes
2. Honor S2

[brisk heath]

it will Allow players to random concuss

More often

Lol

[dawn parcel]

People already random concussed as Bully

[robust elk]

We will have guaranteed 2 kills at least

[brisk heath]

But it will be more pften

[robust elk]

Like if I concussed shadow now adios 1 kill

But the buff will prevent that

[brisk heath]

I really Wonder ranked Lobbies after Bully buff

[robust elk]

I am ready to see d1 rolecalls

[brisk heath]

What is Honor s2

I just want role cards

And A thing Where if you trade honor it will be splited 10 10

[clever torrent]

Bully is strong and now much stronger with this buff

[robust elk]

Bully was balanced

But this buff will give it a chance to compete a bit better

[brisk heath]

The buff was totally unnecessary

[signal crystal]

Bully needed a buff lol

[brisk heath]

bully was Situational

[robust elk]

Bully was balanced imo

[signal crystal]

it was pretty useless

[brisk heath]

Really Situational

[signal crystal]

Gunner and vigi>bully

[robust elk]

Bully countered shadow, summoner etc.

[signal crystal]

also vigi and gunner...

[brisk heath]

it counters Shadow/Guardian/Solo killer Really hard

[robust elk]

Bully needed a lil speed buff

[robust elk]

You had to use 2 kills with them

[brisk heath]

Bully is a lot bettter than some peoples think

[robust elk]

Summoner too

[brisk heath]

it is just so slow

[clever torrent]

Now bully is strong at late game despite it always dead on n1 - n3

[robust elk]

If someone gets reved while concussed once you insta kill them

[robust elk]

Claim and ask for protection ezy pezy

That is bully base kit

[clever torrent]

Agree

[charred drift]

bully will be protected more than conj in ranked now

and ...

INSTIGATED BULLY

THINK OF IT

[robust elk]

Maybe

[charred drift]

THINK.OF.INST.BULLY

IT WILL BE BROKEN

[robust elk]

We bully mains are happy

Happy 😃

[clever torrent]

The ability to concussed someone is make it stronger when there just one ww/one rk left

[robust elk]

It wont necessarily

Since concussing makes them feel like dead

[clever torrent]

Yeah right

[robust elk]

And killing directly gives same effect

[brisk heath]

do you think instigated Gunner is less problem?👁👄👁

[robust elk]

So I think this would encourage bullies to random concuss more

[clever torrent]

It just prolong their agony 😂

[brisk heath]

Especially in ranked

[charred drift]

also if it lives until endgame it will be immortal in 1v1v1

[robust elk]

How)

How?

[brisk heath]

How

[robust elk]

You still have 1 concuss a day

[brisk heath]

You concuss wolf

Splp killer kills yoı

You

[robust elk]

Acco kills you

Max 2 kills 1 concuss a day

[charred drift]

wait no

u concuss sk vote ww last second and win

[brisk heath]

Will the ww Sleep? 👁👄👁

[robust elk]

But if you can concuss someone without killing them after 2 kills that is a whole other story

That would be broken

Yeah what da ww doin

[charred drift]

theyre voting sk

[robust elk]

Are they dumb?

[brisk heath]

Then it will be 1v1

[charred drift]

no its their only way of winning

[robust elk]

They will tie it ofc

[brisk heath]

Ww voting sk and Bully voting Ww

[charred drift]

hmnright

i had smth in mind that i cant.put it to.words

[charred drift]

hope this aint a thing

[robust elk]

If that is the case get bully kids

[brisk heath]

Preacher

I don t got what you guys are thinking

But I would concuss everyone d1

Except Confirmeds

[proud crescent]

you only have one rock per day, that’s not possible

[tropic blade]

concuss removes vote

[robust elk]

He understood it wrong

[tropic blade]

and since concussing day 1 isnt reportable iirc, concussing day 1 is worth it

[robust elk]

I asked after killing twice with old bully you was blocked by no stones now you have infinite but can kill 2 players max

Are we gonna be able to concuss after 2 kills without being able to kill them

[tropic blade]

thats what I asked before

logic tells me that yes

then again itd be busted

then again they made it busted rn

[robust elk]

Based on #dev-vote message you will be able to play bully as usual with just unlimited rocks. That means still two kills per game and one rock per day, but you can still throw one rock a day after you killed twice

[tropic blade]

this isnt a real advanced role

[robust elk]

Cherry said yes it will

[tropic blade]

this doesnt reward anything

this rewards random concussing day 1

and its not precisely what I want

[robust elk]

Now we have infinite concuss and 2 kills balance

[tropic blade]

I dont think its good

but idc enough lol

you gain too much value

its a "keep alive to win" thing

[robust elk]

Idc what they thinked but having 3 kills is not balanced

Concuss is same with killing but you dont remove their win condition

[coarse sedge]

Just woke and Bully got a hella buff 🔥
With unlimited rock he can literally concuss everyday

[robust elk]

I confirmed that bully will still be able to concuss after he kills twice 💀

[coarse sedge]

Even after he killed 2 players bully still useful 🔥

[charred drift]

i would say something but

[robust elk]

Who said lets give 3 kills in 5 days

[humble current]

I think bully is good now

Less effective short term but a lot effective in the long term

[whole bolt]

the evils might need to waste a night to kill bully before endgame

[humble current]

Late game you wanna kill the powerful roles

And the confirmed ones

Bully is just another hindrance

[humble current]

Exactly

[tranquil comet]

med/ritu/conj when they see a Bully in game:

[humble current]

wdym

[coarse sedge]

Nah conj can only throw 2 rocks lol

B4 converted back to conj again

[robust elk]

Bully claimed before the update now you have 3 literal kills

[short ether]

[humble current]

I think they meant the random rocks

Lol

[robust elk]

Bully was a hard counter to some roles but now they hard counter with no drawback

[humble current]

wdym

bully most definitely has drawbacks my friend

[coarse sedge]

If you dont want to accidentally concuss a villager but still want to rock them once to kill them tmr
Then concuss in discussion phase so they wont be blocked at night

[steady quiver]

i dont think bully buffed will affect the game that much.. ?

i mean rsv always died before day 5

uhm

usaally

[plucky jay]

You can only kill 2 people

[charred drift]

thats not the problem,its being an infinite nightmare and vote reduction

[plucky jay]

well bully is bound to die before it uses all rocks

[charred drift]

me when almost always 2 fixed protectors in game

and medium tree

[plucky jay]

I've never seen bully use all rocks tbh

an extra rock or 2 won't hurt anything

[steady quiver]

same

[robust elk]

Bully can now concuss infinitely after killing twice is op

[signal crystal]

now is strong

[signal crystal]

better than vigi and gunner but slower

[sudden urchin]

Imo after two kills the rocks should be gone. But until two kills are met the bully has unlimited rocks

[calm nimbus]

Unnecessary bully buff but no astro nerf 😭

[sudden urchin]

I mean many people complained about bully being inferior so..

I do want Astro nerf though haha

[robust elk]

Bully era shall begin

[steady quiver]

i stll prefer gunner anyway xD

pew pew

[robust elk]

It is faster and funnier but bully will be loved too now

[steady quiver]

ye

[robust elk]

And all bully mains are annoyed by people killing the concussed player so I am happy

[steady quiver]

i dont think its a bad idea to pick bully now

[robust elk]

I meant faster they are both funny

[robust elk]

It wasnt today too imo

[robust elk]

The only problem is they can only nerf rrv astro with a day wait among the new moons

But there is no way to nerf astro base kit

Since astro is basic there is no side effect they can remove to nerf it

[vague heath]

Now
Bully ≥ vigi ≥ gunner

[robust elk]

They all have strength and weaknesses

But bully will be op at late game

[dusky perch]

Told u bully buff

U should watch my msgs some r hint

do u want leak for 1 ?

[tropic blade]

sure

leak it all

but add an ''i think''

because you dont knwo

know

[dusky perch]

i leaked this before

[dusky perch]

yes im not sure

i think the star means the item is fav and will be pinned in top of items type

[tropic blade]

interestinig

[gentle patio]

Bully is now an escort that can kill twice damn

That thing is a menace to society

[sudden urchin]

It is a bully after all

[calm nimbus]

Yes but I think the buff is too much

[robust elk]

The first astro was better

You had 2 killing powers

A whole day delay

You gave 2 votes in 1 day

And 3 isnt gonna happen since all good berserk dodge it + they cant kill directly but it was suggested that astro dies

[steady quiver]

?discord shirt

[ashen musk]

@steady quiver, Please go to #bot-commands for that!

[robust elk]

And 4 should happen but it isnt a big problem if you had died since they voted you off or you just suck at killing

And 1 isnt a problem since you can say I am astro I new mooned there will be no ww kill today

[calm nimbus]

No???

You also get extra voting phase with current astro since ww dont kill

[robust elk]

It was op trust me

You had 2 killing instead of 1

And you blocked sk too

This is now just prot

[calm nimbus]

How

[robust elk]

4 is not a problem if you got voted off you sucked at killing with meteors

[calm nimbus]

But you block every other villagers

And yourself

[robust elk]

It was like you start a second voting

You had 2 second killing

It was like gunner

[calm nimbus]

That's less op than preventing all werewolves from killing

[robust elk]

If 2 ww found you new mooned and votes both

[calm nimbus]

And you cant use it day 1 for no reason like all astros do

I think this would lead to a lot of random killing night 2

[robust elk]

Current astro base kit is that

[calm nimbus]

Wdym

[robust elk]

1 isnt a big nerf 2 was op it wouldnt change a thing 3 isnt gonna happen and 4 is just not a thing

If 3 happened astro would be f tier

[calm nimbus]

2 isn't op at all

[robust elk]

2 is op

[calm nimbus]

Nope

[robust elk]

Berserk is in half of the games

[calm nimbus]

One interaction change doesnt make a role go from S++ tier to f

[robust elk]

It is not S++ imo

[calm nimbus]

Btw 5 people agree with me lol, majority seem to want 2nd option

[robust elk]

I think it being easier witch isnt a op ability

[calm nimbus]

The ability to block all werewolves killing for the night is op

[robust elk]

2nd option was the pre nerf astro

[calm nimbus]

How is blocking only ww a nerf

[robust elk]

The ability of doing it skill and getting same value is better and funnier

[robust elk]

They nerfed it to prot

It was a killing

[calm nimbus]

I cant reason you I'm just gonna assume you troll lol...

[robust elk]

Ok

[vocal imp]

Idk about that storm wolf buff

It still needs a rework

[dapper iris]

now it can delete the note perk

im think about testing now

[robust elk]

It will be defo be better than what we have now

And will be more chaotic

And this would potentially lead to sorc wwf storm kww pools op

Since you can do the same thing twice

[sudden urchin]

We’ll see what happens, it hasn’t even been released yet

[calm nimbus]

Confirmed though, and I know it will be op

[robust elk]

It would defo be a late game monster

2 kills and concussing infinitely

Seems kinda unbalanced

I will confirm that out and inform yall

When the update releases ofc

[teal ravine]

Good for game throwers

[robust elk]

Every role is good for gamethrowers

[teal ravine]

[robust elk]

D1 claim fools are kinda gamethrowing

[teal ravine]

And devs dont care

But claiming ww/rk is throwing (they tried to be a foo)

[dusky perch]

6h and 12h is very useless and dont make sense

or devs think we get items every hour 😐

[next cedar]

I’d still rather have voodoo

[next cedar]

Kids who spend money on every outfit in game

[dusky perch]

still that not 6h

[tropic blade]

you have been storm ww'd

[steep hinge]

SO THATS WHAT NUMBER 1 IS?

Nvm

#dev-vote message

[charred drift]

Show only items unlocked in the last 6 hours doesn’t sound right gramaticallly

yeah

[short epoch]

yes gunner is the best

[regal horizon]

0-0

[calm nimbus]

Vigi is the best

Public reveal is op

[vocal imp]

yeah but theres still smth called memory

and clearing the notes should have been default

[charred drift]

yet it gets called a buff

oh and it gets 2 shuffles + 2 fog so thats nice

[regal nova]

just screenshot

tbh

[robust elk]

They wont let you

The strat of storm is giving fake infos to create chaos

Give info and shuffle

[dim trout]

Honestly... just use your brain and remember to the name and skin

[short epoch]

sstorm is useless

[robust elk]

It looks like easy but it is so instant all you see is an info

[marsh wyvern]

Problem is you're trying to save a werewolf with your ability, instead you should use it to create confusion and make village forget past information.

[robust elk]

Use it for chaos

I was wwf at a double storm kww sorc pool

We all gave rsv infos

And shuffled it was pure chaos

[dim trout]

The part... forgetting only works on idiots

[robust elk]

You have to be instant after giving infos

Not saving

That is not the playstyle

[marsh wyvern]

How many confirmed villagers can you remember after double shuffle?

[dim trout]

Not much, but not forgetting wws.

[robust elk]

It is about giving infos and shuffling

[marsh wyvern]

So that's how you should use it, people try to save werewolves and fail at it then say storm sucks. You can unconfirm a lot villagers

[dim trout]

📝

Or notepad

[marsh wyvern]

If you see someone using notes or someone who's incredibly clever then kill them and shuffle again

[dim trout]

I still think that storm could be better rather than just a memory based role.

[robust elk]

Notes and ss are gamethrows since they are not a game thing as I know

[marsh wyvern]

Whatever storm wolf is extremely useful on sb and ranked(idk if it exists in ranked). In sb there are mid players and from my experience there are lots of people that can't even remember regular information. In ranked there's chaos a lot fake informer claims when combined with storm wolf is pretty op.

[dim trout]

i'm not sure about it rn. We need a confirmation about it. ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[dim trout]

I never said it's bad... just could be better.

[marsh wyvern]

Not game throw but exploit

Actually ss could be easily solved

[next cedar]

Player notes is a feature

[dim trout]

He meant notepad

[marsh wyvern]

Player notes will be deleted

[dim trout]

So using 3rd party notepad

[marsh wyvern]

I mean if storm uses shuffle then all will be deleted

[dim trout]

oh

i thought the feature getting removed

[robust elk]

That will be removed

[next cedar]

Uneeded ping, thanks

[marsh wyvern]

Nah just all player notes will be back to neutral once shuffled

[dim trout]

Nice.

I still wont use storm.

[robust elk]

If you mute and nm informers no brainer I think storm has same value

[marsh wyvern]

Depends on the game mode

I'd use it in sb but not in advanced

[robust elk]

Nm and mute are op and they use it on informers no brainer

[marsh wyvern]

Nm can only stop 2 informations while mute only delays 2 informations. So 4 informations at max but storm forcing them to do role call twice cause informers forgot all informations(expect for few informations).

[regal nova]

yes they will

[robust elk]

Storm can be a pure chaos maker

[regal nova]

unless u mean guardians

in which case

i'n still gonna
cos I have plausable deniability

because it's a fking memmory check

and if guardians say we can't do that

[robust elk]

There is a 0,01 second wait among the fake info and shuffle

[regal nova]

then it's literally a role that says "no fk you pretend you never got that info or else u get banned 😡"

[robust elk]

I meant if you fake infos they wont be able to ss that fast with new storm

[marsh wyvern]

Just ss your information

At night

[regal nova]

just ss n1

and

ss every 5 seconds

[robust elk]

So we ss ww’s fake info d1

Use it to fake infos

Pure chaos and fonny

[regal nova]

wdym 'use it to fake info'

[robust elk]

Give 4 fake infos and shuffle

[regal nova]

you only get to do that if village forgot how to play the game

[marsh wyvern]

Imagine all ww claiming informers

[robust elk]

Ww team once gave 5 rsv infos and it was chaotic

I was wwf and I got both ana’s lynched that game lol it was fun

[marsh wyvern]

Also vote hiding is useful than you think

There are 6 non-villagers, let's say 5 in case hh doesn't want to vote

And there's possibly a third party role

If just one or two villagers are confused you are able to tie or mislynch

[robust elk]

I think nm can be the best lol

[charred drift]

which is gonna be silently acted upon

but if they dont confess it wont be taken action upin so useless

[steady quiver]

There's no point in resetting player notes if players can still remember avatars and names and such

Also for roles like , the red and blue things shuffle along with the storm, so it's still pretty useless

Not sure if det info still stays with storm

[daring parcel]

shouldn't happen though tbh and if it does next season then they will change it I guess

[steady quiver]

I think not

Does the shuffle also clear the player notes for wolves? 💀

[daring parcel]

I think all notes made by players

[steady quiver]

Bc if it does then it's counterproductive

[daring parcel]

but not stuff like sorc mark

[dark creek]

Plot twist it is not removed for normal wws, you just was recruted ww and exposed yourself by this

[steady quiver]

I use player notes as split wolf so I can keep track of good secondary players to bind to. If storm removes that, eh...

[steady quiver]

LMAO

Tbf I've never seen cupid and nightmare wolf in the same setup before (let alone insti and storm) but that would be pretty funny

[daring parcel]

I need a lm card

[robust elk]

I have bomber card and I am happy but I dont have lm card I want br not ft

[dawn cairn]

Bb worst of arso tree

[robust elk]

I won 5 out of my 16 matches so I dont think it is that bad

It is defo fun I will say that

KABOOM BOOM BOOM

Siren is worst bte

Btw*

[dawn cairn]

Ye it can be fun but comparing to others it's weak n unbalanced

[robust elk]

That kill rate makes me go crazy 1.0 kill rate cronchy

[robust elk]

I think it can be better than arso in a lot of situations and it has full protection ignoring so that is a +

[dawn cairn]

lol sometimes siren kill rate less than 1.0

[robust elk]

Sometimes sirens entrance sorcerer berserk and wolflu deleting the game

My fav was siren entrancing 3 ww and entrancing last 2 next time 💀

[dawn cairn]

Arso one of the good rks out there, but it's boring

[robust elk]

Better than zomb

Zomb is so boring

Click button and sleep

[dawn cairn]

also arso only struggle with trap and jail which is two roles

[robust elk]

Not jail

Only trap

But needs to live till d4 to get a 1,5 kill rate

Alch black potion doesnt get behind any protection

[dawn cairn]

bandit tree is just different
games turn into something else

[dawn cairn]

alchi is most fun killer tbh

[robust elk]

And when you get a potion as alch you go

[robust elk]

Insti is funnier imo

[dawn cairn]

if it was a killer

[robust elk]

Devs count it as a killer

There is proof to back me up if you wanna see

[dawn cairn]

i mean you won't get insti as rk ig

[robust elk]

But devs count it a solo killer

[dawn cairn]

but it's not rly solo

[robust elk]

Like they count acco as killer while it doesnt come from rk

It shows solo and all

My game doesnt show the setup but at ranked insti takes place of rk

[calm nimbus]

What's with everyone wanting to buff perfectly balanced roles like preacher or bell ringer?

[robust elk]

Yeah i dont get it

[next cedar]

Cause those roles are more skill based and they want to remove skill from the game

[calm nimbus]

That's sad but true

[plucky jay]

Omfg

They said the battle pass ends in a day now it ends in 24 hours

🙄

[dawn parcel]

24h is a day though

The new bp starts in 2 days

[lone spade]

i‘m excited :D

[steady quiver]

48 hrs

[marble remnant]

if you think about it, 'in a week' does also mean next week, not the current one

[dawn cairn]

so any idea what's the honor rework?

[next cedar]

Hopefully its just easier to get rewards, also that trading is reportable

[solar ravine]

more honor beggar

[dim trout]

I hate honor beggars, rob.

[dusk hemlock]

anyone h4h ?

[short epoch]

rip game with honor

[dim trout]

So right now the update in nutshell:

• You can share outfits
• New roles that barely anyone cares
• More beggar
• Rock storm goes brrrr

[coarse sedge]

Everyone's attention is only to siren lol
Ft is being swept away in the dust

[next cedar]

I care about ft :(

Siren deserves to burn though

[real coral]

Discontinue honor 😊

[dim trout]

barely

[steady quiver]

Ban honor for my mental health

physical health too

[edgy snow]

WaNnA tRaDe HoNor?

[coarse sedge]

AnYoNe h4H ?

[tropic blade]

sure

scams

[edgy snow]

A couple of times I forgot who I was supposed to gave honor and just left after the game was over.

XD

[tropic blade]

thats what I usually do

I tell 5 people to honor for honor in the same game

[dim trout]

, what about

[drowsy nest]

role icons leaked yet??

[steady quiver]

im pretty sure ft is buffed

[dim trout]

its not

[steady quiver]

why

if it didnt get buff or rework they wont add it into the game cuz the #1052307374179885226 about ft is negative

[dim trout]

Because it's the same 🗑️ role which is getting released

[steady quiver]

oh ?

true

😭

anyway ill just 50/50

if ft didnt get buff after got added ill sacrifice my voodoo for storm

[dim trout]

And people mostlikely will use or .