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STOP SPEAKING IN ALL CAPS YOU'RE MAKING ME FEEL LIKE I'M READING TERMS OF SERVICE
Nothing special of it tbh
YOU ARE READING THE TERMS OF SERVICE: LOVE ALL OUTFITS
Yep
It's just based to Disney + 
And double girl version?

double girl version is actually pretty rare and thats whats unique about it.
So we aren't allowed to have our own opinions?
u are allowed
Stuff from the culture#disney
This may be a shock but disney did not invent fairy tales
not the gender equality rights again
yea we agree it's really good pretty. But double girl version??
yeah im pretty disappointed too
Not related to Disney really. Just a little reminder, Apple is a symbol of the evil and tentation usually (the best example for that is Adam and Eve) ๐
im trying to make more male outfits
since i am male but i make more girl outfits than male
thats concerning to me
Thats just bc they hair tbh, I donโt have much good male hair
the male hairs look so baby, i want them hot
Well let's wait for other three outfits then?
as a male player- i cant accept the second bp outfit well its still cute
I AGREE ABOUT THIS
YES
I WANT MORE BROWN HAIR
awfully similar to Disney regardless
create two male skins then
the new grave is so small hahah
I Agree it does related to the bp theme and of course we can't say everything like it's totally copied but that's awkward looking if we compared to others
its just an apple bite
This BP remind me of cartoon Goldie & bear
But the people taste is just "apple" enough
not really perrault or some writer of tales have those references ๐
i dont see the first one being fairytale related other than being a fairy
being a fairy is plain design tho
u just add some spark to it
Tbh first one looks better visually
yes i like the first one
you cannot deny the semblance
i wish it was fairytale related tho
it's literally snow white outfit lmao
question is, is it copyrighted? can i create skins about big hero 6, Mario bros, etc.?
we dont know maybe theyll change the outfit
Tbh it was better than the phase where everyones outfit designs were just vampires
theyve already went through copyright acts and didnt get copytighted?
at the very least we need to admit it isnt original
and i dont personally think thats ok
what made it not copyrighted?
Probably Disney fans voted for it
Every game does copyright on their skin
๐คทโโ๏ธ not really copyright. Juts you want see it's copyright if you think it's copyright i assume you can dm Kem, plus snow white from disney is now in the public domain ๐
it probably passed copyright bc the outfit meant to be snow white doesnt look very snow white but the dark apple girl looks so resembled
so it's not really copy paste, copyright
I dont care on the outfits honestly๐ i need role change
We are talking nonsense again
Disney fans voted for it
So that's why it's now on #item-previews
That's it
Some people needs to accept that people can have different opinions and they don't have to get defensive everytime. :/
Me too
omg me too
And? Whats the problem of it?
Ill buy it anyway bc its free โจ
you still cannot deny its awfully similar to the Disney version
1240 coins*
atleast i can just spin wheel and watch ads
Still free we can watch ads
And you recover them with battle pass challenges
I will buy the bp for 40 gems and voucher perk
Well I'll probably buy whole bp in last 15 days
Like you can't deny it can be an insipiration from old tales not only disney like chrries no need to be in the defensive mood ๐คทโโ๏ธ it's your opinion i respect it i just tried to open your mind ๐
but you seem like not open for that
First outfits isnt even fairy tales related imo
having different opinions = having closed mind?
To be honest, I don't care if it's similar to a disney character or if there are two females... Sometimes you like a skin and sometimes you don't, but they are items in your inventory and you might use them to make your own skin. And personally, I will use it to make a conjuror skin ๐
Rose wheel helps too for earning coins, i spin them a lot and use the gold prizes on bps
Kind of god of Greek or something
hit dms rq
The question is what is fairy tales for you? Is things about religion like bible can be related to the fairy tales? or gods like greek gods
I felt sad somehow ngl
Man, dont bring Religion into this
Yeah better not joining them, they just having narcissist vibe
Did you read what i said
i exposed other things to take account on
Me? ๐
Both of you
the semblance is directly from Disney though, like a copy
this is much more similar to what you sent
Sorry but the way you tried to open my mind made me feel uncomfortable ๐
You can't say that when you don't know both of us. Better to not assume things thanks !
its kind of sad the people and devs allowed something this unoriginal to make it through
the skin is fine but it needs a rework
ugh I just wanna spread my opinions without getting judged. Why it's so hard?
i assume you can dm Kem for that since he is designer manager
๐๐๐
Rather to ignore these
an all female bp skin, huh..
i recently quit the game, im just here to point the evident so that someone who cares does it
Okay I'll do my best ๐ฆ
hehaw
JUDGE REFERENCE??????
NO
๐๐๐
GET JUDGED
Narcissists
Lul
asmr your gf comforts you after a nightmare
it's very stupid to do an only female bp skin in the first place.
or are we also getting an all male skin? not that i think there was one in the voting.
But strategic if fake aura/vio thought
well, who cares at the end
life is life
LMFAOOOOO
realistically who fakes in sb
and ofc in ranked its a no go
cuz it isnt in ranked
Adri its a joke i know you care and i agree with you
It's for boosting lol
but we cant do shit
I wonder about last three outfits
nah split ww is for boosting
And now it's for boosting sp + boosting honor
well tbf i don't use bp skins / items cause they are mostly not usable anyways. just disagree with the way this is going
i was the one who suggested the hero mode, and iirc it got denied by sonblo. i guess it was a good idea at the end ๐ค
sbolonolo
already sad enough that 99% are skins from the "official" designers and those who work and submit decent to very good skins over and over again just get ignored again and again
girl skins are prettier
but not everyone playing this game is female / uses female avatars 
Y'all will call me salty but I'll never forget how they ignored best outfits during Japan theme.
but theyre prettier
happens
HEHAW
So ur saying Male is pretty
someone make this a wov skin
and this happens almost every bp
lOl
The reason that every fakes goes wrong, they're all just head to fool issue or nobody would realize they're faking 'til its went to obvious
I mean, even tough it's quite a sterotype, the hats, front items, back items, mask and gravestone are still "for both genders"
"vigi"
this happens every battlepass 
I think wolvesville needs to hire new designers from outside
and the rest is for gurls
no
block me then ๐
no
clownies clowning
I don't think they will rather to pick designers that much
Roblox woman face + doc = ultimate combo
claim tg 2 jww
ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
Sure, but maybe in #off-topic better
guardians should get paid
its a future skin
ofc they wont pick new people. as long as the outfits etc. sell there is no point in getting new designers.
designers should get paid
Wait isn't they did
because there is a limit in originality
nah no one gets paid here
I get paid to go to school
Better than the vampire avatar idea phase
yes, thats why i dont want shellz skins in the new bp. and no lighzee skins, and no milk skins etc. cause the solo items just look the same.
Still remember that S&K getting paid for per outfit come to game๐ค
me looking for the male version in the second outfit
they are the exception
But I also regret about missing that vampire bp
:/
there is none..
Ah, volunteers
Next outfits prob 2 male outfits
sad and kem do get paid according to my intel
Tbh vampire bps are the worst
Disney ยฉ
They draw very well I never can ignore this but we want difference ๐ฎโ๐จ

Disney Junior
No BeCaUsE iTs OpEn ๐ณ
Ah yeah
Mickey mouse outfits better๐ค
ITS LITERALLY THE SAME AND I HATE IT
Did one of your outfits get picked?
Quests 
weak
weaaak
Does it even related to votes?
should have made it instead of disney
We wanted a BP
this yours?
Not guests :(((
Yes 
theoretically yes, practically devs choose
I believed in the concept of copyright until this day
I didn't vote for bp outfits๐
I'm an atheist now
i didnt ๐ค
i need some decent male hair.. why can't we ever get decent male hair? 
I believe there's no one came from hell voting for the 2nd
Can you tell leticiel to come back? I miss their outfits. you guys need to make collabs again also lol
Both of you guys make next level outfits and it's a fact
I told him
never listens to me
i don't think I've ever seen a poll here where the votes actually mattered aside from the weekly gamemode votes..
So there's a skin with double female? 
Omg Vigilante wolvesville copyrighted town of salem vigilante๐ฑ
thats why i am here

Do you remember how their blue cyberpunk outfit got ignored? It was best lmao what people were thinking
Well if you think about it flagger is similar to transporter too
Let's keep this chat speculation related ๐
It is a general reminder ๐
You guys also made best Japan outfits too I'm still sad about it
Your late night class outfit is my fav outfit of yours

why is last outfit so similar to Disney
YES IT'S DOUBLE FEMALE, if its not copyrighted then it's about Disney fight for antiracism with the Little Mermaid live action and now Wolvesville fight for gender equality rights?
Lately i lost my motivation anyway
based
this isn't the right place to discuss it, and you know it
last outfits is conjuror
how is an all female skin gender equality? 
Dang that's just learned hard
its an #speculations about an speculation, according to what you are saying it is the right place to ask
where is it otherwise?
im not sure if it even belongs in #1052307374179885226 because its not out yet
It's understandable. You guys make most underrated outfits. :/
no. If you have the feeling an outfit has a copyright issue, contact @spice hedge
(Via dm)
Not in #speculations
oh there are no cr issues, its just awfully similar to Disney
which makes me think its unoriginal
I can feel the glory of it
About Nighthy's outfits, it's probably because of the eyes and mouth, they could just base on golden ratio at least just build it different
I use eyes but different mouth
Edited btw ^
Eyes are so elegant imo
Mouth lowered already, eyes bigger so it looks proportional when ig
Now tell me, how can I do it better
Maybe you can make bigger lips? it's just an advice
like you know people fill lips
it would look really good
i think the thin lips is good imo but maybe my style preference
This BP looks good but i dont like fairy tales
yea everyone has different tastes

mud makes a lot of bigger ones if you are looking for some
so I don't wanna talk for everyone :((
some people like bigger lips, I know people who prefer thinner ones too
I actually use nighty eyes + mud lips
Ultimate combo for me lol
Sorry It's just my taste of vision and of course I'm not good at drawing, eventually
I base my eyes and lips on my drawing style, so it can't be helped 
ooh i though we should dm kem but make sense to philipp ๐ interesting to know
many submitted skins look good. i just want variety and different creators to make it into the bp
Btw did your mermaid skin get picked?
The dark one
its stupid to add 2 or 3 skins from the same creator
Quest 
it gets repetitive super fast.
your quests are always gem :(((((
But for some reason the game algorithm doesn't offer my gem quest skin that often, maybe once in 100 years?
The votes together with the devs decide what does get chosen, if it are multiple skins of the same designer that's a coincidence and happens ๐ Not stupid at all, it's just the devs looking at the vote
well it's same for every outfits almost :/
You need to wait a while to buy it sadly
Let's wait for other three outfits. I'm sure mud and shellz got a spot too
I voted for wavy hair lol
this?
doesnt even look like a male. looks like a female with short hair
just looking at the face
Femboys are my weakness
great for you. terrible for male players or people that are hoping for some decent male avatars
Well i didn't design it anyway, so it's not in our hands to change 
i know, but i voted so i am allowed to complain 
can you show me what kinda male skins you like maybe i can make it next time ๐ฅน
^^
I'll show you
males are really hard to design lol
no, you go and create skins as you know and like them.
there are enough people that love your skins already.
no i keep changing my style according to feedback
I love Magical night
Not second one ๐
๐ #item-previews 3rd outfits looks good
Tbh I can't deny that you keep improving
Don't, everyone has different taste
Will you look at these ๐คthe eyes and lips are on point to take some taste of view
Agreed
@cerulean geode I'll definitely use that hair
Now I'm excited for the rest of the bp skins
I want muds skin so bad
Chances are high it'll get in
I like the male one
i predicted those 3 to get in. the other milk skin is hella unlikely now
Hairs with brown color are the needs of half of the players I think ๐ค
Tbh I got tired of white hair
Ariel and Eric
Yeah, those hair came out recently are just suit to the first skin tone the most
I means the snowwhite one
OMG THE THIRD ONE I VOTED FOR GOT IN!! IM SO HAPPY
SHELLZ HAVE GOOD DESIGN
RLY GOOD
QUEEN
Yas
Buff*
LOVE
Im only excited for new roles
thank you dear ๐๐
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the white hair is getting tiring
at leastthey make it great
but i wish we could recolor some stuff
YEEESSSSS I NEED THIS ONEEJDOFPD
I always use noob outfits
yw queen yass slay
To prevent get skin targetted
Glad they will add hide levels
I bought tons of skin but,
I never used them all
can i see
I don't use noob skins but I stopped using background items
Dude im on mobile and im not going to screenshoot 1 by 1
I'm trying to make my skin look like so simple
i used to not use background items and maje said the avatar catwalk was getting flooded with simple effortless outfits that can be made under a minute
I spent all of my gems for light zodiac outfits ugh
but no background outfits are really great
no
its just that.. it feels plain
People are allowed to wear whatever they want
I think you need to look a little different and unique
Like I said don't make avatars to please people
anytime
Also i would like to show you but this isnt the right channel ๐
im gonna share some old outfits on #avatar-catwalk
Bot answered you lmao
#item-previews message why are there two females
no, there is none with 2 males
the goldielocks outfit should be added
idk why, i think its stupid.
if youre gonna make 2 female outfits why not 2 male outfits


Well I really didn't think double girl outfit will get picked
#item-previews message i dislike this one
I love it
Its good
I'm telling you guys we need to have dark/scary/horror/creepy battlepass to satisfy everyone ๐ฎโ๐จ
I really like the third one, they did a good job with it
There are already several, aren' there?
its boring
i just need some normal clothing and some normal hair with a decent looking set of eyes and a fitting mouth
I like second skin, it's so cool 
we need a steampunk bp
and why do the ๐ reactions get removed? are we not allowed to voice our opinions, huh?
๐คฆ๐ปโโ๏ธ
We had this already a lot
Next update leaks where
Agree
Leen being based as always
I mean yeah we can disagree but we also dont want to hurt the creator feelings
I realized that too lmao
๐๐ป won't hurt feelings don't worry
I like the first and the third a lot
Different people different opinion
as long as we tell our opinions nicely it isn't a problem imo
Hiding your level is so dumb
if that hurts your feelings you're not fit for the internet.
If you hide your lvl = high level anyway
Because it isn't a vote channel, adding dislikes to something can be seen as rude. No one is stopping you from expressing your opinion but nothing is nice about a thumbs down with no note at all
sameee, I will totally be using the female hairstyles and other stuff, excited for the other 2 skins
Things that make you brave in Internet is because you are anonymous
I did that feedback lmao
targetting for level is worse tbh
Agree
I mean i get it they are doing it because of golden icon targeting but this wont solve it
average level targetter?
Atleast dev are trying to reduce targetting level
But this make it less
Wtf?
I guess yeah
How is it dumb
Actually even though I don't have golden stubborn ww icon I got targeted because of my level
thats nonsense. if you post your artwork and only keep the positive resonance it creates a false image. the reactions are what most people see first.
and village lynched me forced me to claim first day
Because if you hide your level you are high lvl by logic
Duh
Ehh not really
zombie icon doesnt work for all zombies
95% of the time yeah
true
You can be a low level hiding your level because you don't want ppl mocking you for low level
And do you see logic targeter?
Nobods is mocking for low lvl ๐
Yea levels harm us only nothing more
If you don't like it at least you should keep it constructive. There's a difference in saying "I don't like it" and "I don't like it due to X and Y and maybe they could have done Z to improve it". To quote from the rules, if you can't add positivity here, you aren't welcome
I disagree
Bro revealed hisself as a targetter
U live in cave? :/
People call you nub for your level and judge your play style
Ss of what
Indeed
I like how everyone doesn't understand the shaman one

Screenshot of low lvl bullying
Here
There are multiple matches with these people, just go to Sandbox
you
Im in sandbox usually
Bro I don't have to give ss for it everyone knows my point
Yea
Fr dude
Their brain got melted because of so much farming ignore them ๐ญ
they even don't know how to play against real people players
Lmaooo
Yeah but if you wanna prove your point then send proof ๐
Everyone agrees with me what proof?
Cuz i have almost never seen low lvl bullying
Xp farmer usually the quite one in sb
Gerand, there are enough players to know this is real
Guess i dont play enough
According to Gerand, we should hide our avatar in game atleast
if they want to hide levels then
Lmao
make sure its forced on everyone
because
what if only 2 or 3 people are hiding their level
Newbies can use the hide levels too
For example: a lvl 12
makes a mistake by checking a confirmed player/claimed player and messes up multiple times people will start to act rude towards the seer and telling them to go back to quick game for their lvl etc
Obly 2 ppl hide levels other are low lvl and tgen so easy to guess who has the golden icon
Hide levels exist
Achievement, People with good name, avatar slot, gems, gold, received rose, rose sent be like
Also there are players who are 100-200+ levels but have so many outfit slots. I don't think they will target slots...
yep so have to be forced on all
like role cards uh
during the match you canโt view role card
even if eye icon is enabled
What are snippets? I might be slow
only lets u see outside of match their role card
you will not get toxicity out of the game when you enable the option to hide levels. I doubt it will even reduce that. What might happen is that either targeting increases or decreases.
Lol, yeah i have seen things like this but it had nothing to do with level. He made a mistake and they told him to go back to quick play but NOT because of his lvl
2nd device:
basically pre made messages
Knowledge of the game, talkactive, loyalty tokens, good outfits, people that played with u before be like :
yeah but who would be cuck enough to use a secondary device to view profiles
i thought gems, gold are hidden from public
I think game should allow us to hide our whole profile during game
Hide levels exist
Achievement, People with good name, avatar slot, gems, gold, received rose, rose sent, knowledge of the game, talkactive, loyalty tokens, good outfits, people that played with u before be like :
imagine having to resort to using exploits to win quick game and sandbox games
๐
Wait, how you mean premade messages? Like a one button message?
how sad one must be
Simply remove the whole player list in a match and clickable names
No more issues
yeah
theres role snippet and custom snippets
- PERK be like
no just say "this players profile is hidden" during game
custom snippets you can make outside of the game. like if you wanted to say, โhey guys how are youโ
Wait, were there premade messages before?
every game
Yes lol
and then when u are in game
Snippets > Last will
Yeap
When :v
Like a year ago
And some players were faking snippets
role snippets are custom snippets that are built in for each role
2019 snippets removed
like these guys said
I play like a year ago again, but never heard of it
if you are seer
u can get seer related snippets
like Iโm Seer. 10 is Nightmare Werewolf
Wait more than a year sorry
if you checked 
I FORGOT
HONOR AND HONOT COUNT BE LIKE
you got it now
it got removed because
say someone aays
I even don't bother to grind honors
Iโm aura Seer. 10 is evil
There's no reward yet
I'm Aura Seer. 10 is Evil.
One wrong Letter in fake snippets and u get voted out
Thata the real aura
Lmaoo and some players were spamming snippets
#CancelInstigatorBuff
Nah they can fake very well
Bully is so boring I swear
Well yeah if you knew avout it
Yes
I never have fun while playing bully
Felneus need a brain check
I want to headshot people with my gunner
Hes top 1 bully Fan
I mostly care about Blind ww and Locksmith
LMFAOOOO
Bully is fun to last minute block solo killers from winning
Felneus agree on buffing bully with 4 rocks = 4 days
Bully can turn the game more if played good
yes
Bully, spy, locksmith is ass
Gunner mvp and best role
None of them is good
i donโt mind 3 rocks too
Spy decent
Locksmith is strong but easily beatable
Spy is too broken rn
Bro you fr need a therapist
Spy is so annoying spy forces me to check two good players on purpose lmao
Leave me alone and let me check different players lol
Add back fortune teller and buff butcher
i like spy
def
Spirit seer best informer role
not because its balanced
butcher now is fine wdym
Add Judge and blind ww next update
Spirit is difficult
because my whole lobby is ๐ฟ
Nah I got golden ss icon and I reached 350+ wins with ss
then they will wake up
it's definitely easy and my fave role
->
Spy always check horizontal, vertical, diagonal istg

Gambler change to RSV when
Spy just good cause forced role call
I mostly get killed early by first might or because I wasn't protected
I check 1-2-3-4 on purpose lmao
fortune teller balanced ๐ค
Not just that, but I also have to survive to have info
Buff gunner and give him 36383 bullets
Buff the Laws 
sandbox players that use an average of 0 bullets per game or else they get banned cuz thats what the rule said
Gunners are saving their bullets for next game fr
Vigilante and witch player not forced to random reveal and random kill day 2 challenge impossible
Nah, they get low budget from the Mayor
Mayor > Preach
it's really annoying when vigi/gunner players force other players to apologize themselves
Mayor is targeted very easily
preacher is the more balanced mayor
like if you act harsh against them they shoot you?
They shoot you because you annoyed them?
Basically
GG > mayor > baker > ph
For the upcoming role Analyst, which do you think is the best?
Paci>>> mayor
2nd
I like the first one
First one imo
1-2nd is maid
OO
No mouth = complete WOV
she looks so cool
same

Delete her mouth ๐
New role : Mafioso
Nah we were robbed bc first analyst looks best
no
can i have ss of all outfits in role card offer?
โ ๐ฅ ๐ฅ ๐ฐ ๐
I hope xp farms get deleted hard lmao
I'm so excited to see farmers faces lmaooooo
Nah, just make their lose/winrate didnt increase
no please
i dont want another 1000 comment long conversation
Make double trouble unbalanced and wont gjve u xp

Wait were you in that feedback chat lol
๐ค
yeah I argued cuz it basically destroyed custom games and is a reason a lot of feedback gets denied
Bro do farmers even have fun?
Just make their Winrate didnt increase
it's so boring
Yup
idk I just do it to guarantee 30 card limit, battlepass, sometimes BST is just free daily donโt even have to play the game
The xp farmer always use the same eyes
I won't deny sometimes i go to farm to grind xp for battlepass but I never do it 24/7
yeah 24/7 is ass lmao
yea they have no life
After role cards update i plsy xp custom
Bqt rooms are so usefufl
Useful
I remember when we were farming with Pacis and zombies
it was giving 160 xp per game
"I hope xp farms get deleted hard lmao
I'm so excited to see farmers faces lmaooooo"
are they hurting you? 
Hahahaha
yes because I saw a 1000+ level player shooting two villagers
Remember when we were doing double convert lol
i donยดt see your point in there.
Level dont matter but when you see people appreciate those who have a winrate above 80
With kww
We were telling rl to visit x number
And we were turning two players lmao
Xp custom always full of gold icon
And rl was visiting that player innocently lol
i donยดt see why people even care about their stats in the first place.
High winrate = pro
Nah high winrate = farming 24/7
doesnยดt buy you anything.
You can gain trust sometimes..
Nah I don't trust nobody and nobody trusts me
Ranked player (no alt and teamming) > sandbox > xp custom > quick game
Sandbox is not a test mode anymore but a whole quick game๐
yes
i think having fun should be the top priority and i donยดt see how people who xp farm are hurting that much. most of the time you donยดt interfere with them anyways.
ranked alts and gamethrowing with easily creatable new accounts should worry you more.
Whole game is circus actually thanks to players ๐คก
We suggested multidevice fix trillion times and never got added
Tbh winning or losing don't matter too because it's only silly 60-80 xps
But I get annoyed sm because of gamethrowers
Or players who talk without knowing anything
I saw players who try to report conjuror for cheating
Unnecessary
its a mobile game that is easily accessible for a very young audience..
and it's so annoying when people call you kiddo when I'm 20 lmao
Yea
Actually I'm 19 but I'm so impatient
๐คง
Anyways I'll come back after other leaks bye lol
Huypu deserves the last spots 
omg no, none of my votes have made it in so far imma cri
welcome to capitalism.
there will be new overpriced cosmetics as long as enough people buy those cosmetics.
rolecards, introduction of these 9.99$ or before 7.99$ offers, "limited" inventory collections all did their part in this.
rolecards practically made this game "pay to play"
it is profit oriented and it will always stay profit oriented.
still donยดt see why the xp farmers are blamed this much and new cosmetic releases are hyped up so much.
the system of the game is flawed and nothing will change that in the near future.
lol
I think removing xp from custom doesnโt fix the problem but would only move boosting even more to other gamemodes where it would destroy the fun of other players, who play as intended
It's not pay to play you don't need advanced role to win ๐คทโโ๏ธ or to play. You gain 30 cards+ per month and it's enough to get 2 advanced roles if you have suggestion i assume you can go in #1052307374179885226 channel
you gain 30 cards per month if you play a lot every day. pay to play also doesnt mean pay to win, it means pay to play as it suggests ๐คก
and advanced roles are locked behind role cards and it takes months to get all advanced roles.
and why should i go to feedback. point proven many times that this kind of feedback doesnt go anywhere.
and i responded to something posted in here, doesnt make a lot of sense to send my answer in feedback, huh?
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I sometimes wonder why people are surprised when they hear the game is profit-driven. Every game ever is profit-driven, so people should stop acting as if it's unusual or immoral.
About the video itself:
Using a poll as source to say the focus shouldn't be on cosmetics completely misses the point imo. Enjoying the game for gameplay first doesn't mean you can't enjoy cosmetics at all.
I understand the frustration regarding custom games being mostly xp, but I see no solution proposed.
Ranting that not enough stuff was added in 2020 is imo pointless. That was a funky year for everyone.
"People like variation", let me introduce you to crazy games I guess, problem solved.
"x has killed the game" is something that people have been saying ever since the game came out for everything and its opposite so it's hard to take seriously
Tbh I see a lot of angst and little constructivity. Which kinda sums up a lot of this community's suggestions.
Hmm, in that case, you pay to not play. Paying makes you not need doing xp. However, doing you daily challenges can take you less than an hour a day, and most of times, they grant you enough xp to level up.
About posting in feedback, devs do take opinnions into account. Sonetimes they might be denied or take some time to discuss whether to add it or not, but definitly, suggesting is better than not doing it
Ngl it takes a lot of time to collect advance roles
only two advanced roles in one month isn't fair for every players
I have most of roles because of veteran player thing not because I grind for it
New players don't have the experience to play with advanced roles, anyway. And veteran players got veteran role cards to play old adv roles. Don't see how it's pay to play ๐คทโโ๏ธ No one's forcing you to doll up your avatar and bp is entirely free and gives you some of the best outfits in-game
you don't need to have all advanced roles ๐
who told you this? Maybe I need to have all of them lol
You can't decide this for me
In a season, that is 4 advanced roles. 2 for the new ones that they usually add, and other 2 to continue progressing. Progresing is an important part of encouraging to play. If you were maxed out in a week, playing will make less sense. Of course you will still play for fun, but without an aim, you will get boted before
Users before role cards: "the roles I want are never available in the setup, this sucks"
Users after role cards: "the roles I want are hard to unlock, this sucks" 
there is absolutely no difference between regular roles and advanced roles. "New players donยดt have the experience" is also not a well thought through argument. You get experience by playing with that role, no?
Unless you love โ60 roles, you won't need to make a hard attempt to get your favourite ones
Opinnions are opinnioms after all, but I don't dislike the current progressiom system
(except from the rng :P)
Role cards are pay to play, end.
Game mechanics locked behind stuff that i either need to grind months for or simply pay by inserting my credit card info.
there is no opinion to be made
thats just a fact.
I don't decide for you ofc. I just saying by that, you don't need to have all of them to enjoy the game ๐คทโโ๏ธ you can enjoy the game by playing the basic role. But it's still your opinion and like i said early and like cerdoh said too, you can give a feedback about that if you think it's not fair for all players :)
Real question, do you play a lot of pay to play games?
Star wars battlefront 2 had very similar mechanics to unlock characters. it was boycotted everywhere.
Its why feedback exist after all
and here everyone defends it
That's cause you also have to pay to unlock battlefront in the first place
You don't have to pay to play wov
A lot of games have similar system and mechanics and it works ๐
"you donยดt have to pay for it if you donยดt want to" is not an argument btw.
Actually it's since wov is not a pay to win game
Rip my question I guess
yes, it is also a game developed over years with marketing put into it etc. on a bigegr scale wov and that game arent comparable. but the mechanics in unlocking things are.
no, you get experience by seeing other players play with that role. Giving avenger to inexperienced players leads to random killing rather than random revealing. Not the same balance.
but the mechanics in unlocking things are.
Then compare everything
Including the price for the base game
great. that means we must support it obviously..
I don't dislike the system of cards so i kinda defend it but it's not the point of this channel better go into speculations for it i assume
If you want to, I'm not stopping you -
The worse thing is they don't allow us to pick advanced role we want
We sacrifice 12 cards for one role at least give us role we want
That's a fair point tbh, have you tried posting it in #1052307374179885226?
maybe later
Aight
For example I want wolffluencer
you just pick avenger to make your point weigh more. you can also pick bellringer, vigilante, forger, analyst, spirit seer, tough guy and voila, your argument makes no sense anymore
but there's a chance that I can get kww or split ww first
Fr i had to upgrade alpha ww card twice to get the advanced role i want
.
at least we need to pick the role we want
I also never understood why are we getting random skin in a collection
money
It just pushes players to try more to get that skin
?tester hat
@mellow wave, Please go to #bot-commands for that!
So you keep buying the collection till you get the skin you want
A.k.a more money
Cant blame em
What about shop? There are so many skins and we have to wait for months to buy specific skin.
I would do same shi
?discord shirt
@mellow wave, Please go to #bot-commands for that!
Thisโฆ
This is what angers me
We canโt choose the skin that we want to buy
I even made a feedback about it
Itโs always the more popular ones that come back frequently
LMAO YES
It's a form of price discrimination
(It's an economic thing, waiting is a way to pay price, paying more is another)
There was a tryout to change it though, I'm not sure became of it
Basic evil doctor tongue
Someone made a theory that thereโs a section for daily offer skins
Like you know how thereโs three
Sometimes I feel like they save better battlepas submissions to offers but they push low quality skins to battlepass
every day from the first tier 2 get choosen and from the second one
yes
Itโs stupid thoughโฆ
from the first tier the skins reapper every month and from the second tier they reapper like every 3-4 months
Why would it be?
like I remember rock/gems battlepass. They made better skins offers and gave us low quality skins
the outfits that people buy more appear often. also to generate more money :)
why does it surprise you
I feel like they don't give enough efforts to battlepass skins like offers
Imo the second one shouldnโt have been a bp skin
Shouldโve been a clan quest skin
Since both are female skins
Ngl sk outfits are really good and I still want them to make battlepass skins
I Can only go for sk tbh
Offer outfits are high quality compared to battlepass ones it's obvious
But theyโre the type of ppl whoโd design skins that requires the payment of gems
Very obvious
it was when they still made 380 gem offers
now only role card offers release
The value of buying a bp is gold (ignore the gem cost ofc)
Easter kww looks like nwm offer
Not a surprise they started rushing
Some of them are repetitive ngl
idrc. 9.99$ is a ripoff anyways. the skin can look as good as ever.
not gonna buy that
Iโd only buy the ones that stand out tbh ๐คทโโ๏ธ
I canโt wait until bully comes out starting next bp
Finna make him gold
The worst role in the game is seer apprentice
Why would you choose seer appr over two protector roles
Like, lemme just let a villager die so i can take their info and give info for one day
Instead of protecting the informer so they can give 2x the info
Or saving the informer while finding out who is attacker
Seer appr is the worst role in the game
If seer appr was moved to a different adv, i would consider it
Like advanced sheriff
Sheriff counts as another informer, and in games it only 2 informers, so seer and sheriff, aura and sheriff, or det and sheriff
Having the seer appr as advanced for sheriff would make it not as op but it would fit into the adv roles
Also, make gambler det adv
Det is rsv, and gambler would fit great as an rsv
Sect
Yes
I think sect should be able to send 1 message everyday
Same as the sect members
Similar to alpha ww
Rn
bandit. dont need advanced roles, bandit is the strongest rk by far.
ye, but you dont need any of them ^^
Same as many of the other roles
But once again, we are not talking about base roles
sect is stronger than zombie for adv
I was expecting something of Mudtoe's, Nagini's and Nighty's ๐ญ but um
It's fine lol ig coz some of my fav ones got in AHAAH
YEAAA ๐ญ๐ญ๐ญ๐ญ i wanttttt
The corset of Mudtoe ๐ฅบ
PLEASE BE A QUEST ๐
Pleaaaase
THE CORSET I CAN'T BREATHE
IKRRRR TOTALLY ๐ญ๐ญ๐ญ need part #2 of this theme we NEEEEED the other skins tooo aaaa ๐ญ๐ญ๐ญ๐ญ

BRUHH ๐ญ WE MISSED OUT ON SO MANY GREAT ONES ๐ BP SHOULD HAVE 10 SKINS IN IT
AHAAHHAHAHA
THE SEA WITCH I CAN'T
IKRRRR
thereโs still quests ๐
Rapunzel one
YESSS fingers crossed ๐ค๐ for them ๐๐ญ
THERS STILL HOPE????
AHAHAH there is apparently ๐
and a 5th bp one i wonder which oneeee
OOOOOH RIGHT THERE'S ONE MORE LEFT
AAAAAAAA
EVERYONE STOP BREATHING THERE'S ONE MORE LEFT

u need math classes lmaooo

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Heyyo, what y'all duin'?
OHMYGOSH AHAHSVSVVDDVSVWUWHVSV ๐ญ
Shshhshshshs
YES PLEASE GOD
DYING
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ANYTHING YOU DO DON'T BREATHE
If it will be mud then GREAT but I STILL NEED PART 2 OF THE SAME BP WITH THE REST OF MY FAVESSSS

What mud?
mudtoei the designer
๐๐๐ i wanna pay for it too like real money i don't care

i am gonna passout ๐ฅฒ
Huge black eyes
in anticipation
Yeah
Omg same ๐ญ i don't mind the other ones but the one i wanted the most came in
Shellz one oh my gosh
I can't wait for the other too for quests i hope ๐ญ I'll pay gems idc
nagi, tell me one thing.
how are the skins selected? Based on the no. Of votes?
(Just curious) 
โAs always this vote is just an indicator about which outfits are popular. This will heavily influence which outfits are ultimately selected, but it is no guarantee for getting picked.โ
as stated in vote
i also think that how much it relates to the theme has some factor though
like if the top voted skin doesnโt really fit into it it might not win, but thatโs just a guess based on the ones iโve seen winning lately
The hair and the stone stuff gosh
Makes sense but I did think that most did stick to the theme tbh, like on what basis is it given? Are they checked against things that exist in each skin? Like certain element? Like uhh flowers etc?
i dunno, but for example i did 100% expect poison apple to win since itโs just the definition of fairy tales imo hahah
anyway we designers donโt know anything about the picking process btw hahah
So what if a skin is made on the theme of fairytale but not a depiction of an existing fairytale what happens then? ๐ค
Makes sense tbh yes i wish we could go to a store and buy all the skins that got in vote ๐
well i made cruella for example but thatโs not reallyyy a fairytale
ahaha okieee no problem, thanks for still trying to help me understand / tell your feelings โค๏ธ

Ohhh but it was on Disney+ right , the red hood one was so cute btw ๐ฅบ๐ you did a great job this time cutie !
i think it then depends on how it looks hahah
I watched some trailers of Cruella hahaha ๐
thank u!!! sad it didnโt win bp๐
The setting fire on the dress scene gosh ๐ญ
So then suppose.. Like I wonder what happens if there are 10 most popularly voted skins, and suppose 2 are selected from it, what happens to the rest of it?
usually most skins get turned into quest since the last few bps
Aweee ๐ฅบ don't be sad please! ๐ Next battle pass yours will definitely get in! I was honestly expecting yours, Nighty's and Mud's alongside others in this bp ๐ฅบ
not too sad tho ๐ we wait for quests hehe
Yes thank God for that honestly i remember Shellz's the golden angel one being a gem quest
I absolutely loved that
YES QUESTS WE WANNNNTTT
AHAHAHA gosh gosh ๐ญ NOW MY HEART STOPPED BEATING ๐ SO THERE'S A POSSIBILITY
Idc how but I just wish all of the skins submissions that I loved get into the game as quests / bp
Yes yes tes

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