speculations

[tranquil comet]

keep in mind that it is strong when paired with other roles too

[tropic blade]

compared to what it was before yk

its still a role that can survive til late game without doing anything

it forces the usage of abilities on them

[tranquil comet]

not really

if it wants to prove itself it comes at a risk now

and if it can;'t prove itself

then u can fake info

ez

[tropic blade]

i dont have to prove myself to defend myself

and faking gl is controversial

[tranquil comet]

true

so real gl also cant be trusted too

[tropic blade]

not really

[tranquil comet]

and if u can co-ordinate with ww #

like u can have a wolf faking aura

and if u claim save on them

[tropic blade]

to fake gl you need to claim a save. to claim a save you need to either claim to save a ww, or a solo

[tranquil comet]

then u can bm village not to kill u

or else they die too

[tropic blade]

to claim a save on a ww you need the same mind set you would have when selling wolves as ww det or calling a ww good as ww aura

which is masochist

[tranquil comet]

its a dual effort ye

[tropic blade]

if you call a solo good, as long as the village has a brain and sees that the solo didnt confirm you as good first, you die

[tranquil comet]

but for real gl to save a villager they will become bounded now so

yes they proved themselves

but they'll probbaly get double killed next night

if they protected blindly

[tropic blade]

if it happened early game, its still insane value

if it happened late game it wont matter

[tranquil comet]

yes gl protecting late game rewards the gl for actually playing their role right

i dont see what is wrong with that

[tropic blade]

the thing is that it is easy for gl to get good value

[tranquil comet]

late game gl with this nerf is basically as strong as current gl

[tropic blade]

which reminds me of a certain someone

[tranquil comet]

its just meant to nerf gl earlygame

[whole bolt]

So and will be released in the next bp season?

[tropic blade]

hopefully not

[tranquil comet]

yes confirmed

[tropic blade]

butcher is meh and wolfflu is op

blind ww should have made it

[tranquil comet]

ill just be using butcher for dailies

lol

[tropic blade]

i wont even upgrade it

[tranquil comet]

L fr

id like

[tropic blade]

bully needs to be able to use a rock every phase

rn its just jww bait

[tranquil comet]

its comparable to

almost

[tropic blade]

warden op

[tranquil comet]

constant roleblock pressure

[tropic blade]

id say its not as strong

[tranquil comet]

[tranquil comet]

and what if there is no

hehehe

[tropic blade]

any weaker ww

[tropic blade]

realistically speaking cursed and gr are used more often

and even then, cursed and co not always ig

[heavy mantle]

What is this? Python?

[whole bolt]

I used Postman to mess around with the API

[near copper]

is great so.welcome to ww world

4 days left

[surreal swift]

github i guess

[bold berry]

Github, my favourite programing language

[deft vault]

Wolffluencer too op?

Ehh idk about that, keep in mind he takes the place of jww

Its def good mostly in lategane

Lategame

But idk if its overpowered

[tropic blade]

wins in a 1 vs 3

even an 1 vs 4 in certain scenarios

it has constant value every day

[cloud cave]

Wolffluencer in sww game also means wolves outvote most of the time

[solar ravine]

Troller

Im not ready with the new wolfflu icon

[tranquil comet]

hehehe

[solar ravine]

I hope bully get deleted instead

[tranquil comet]

noooo 😭

[humble current]

yeah I can see both of those being added to custom games

[dusky perch]

assassin was option before dark magic update

[humble current]

yea but it wasn't like in the UI

[willow zealot]

Kinda seems odd that are all about dying whereas is the complete opposite (and can just vibe with whatever)

[tropic blade]

🫶

[vocal imp]

Ikr

[deft vault]

He allows them to live, but your vote is his

[signal crystal]

HI

WILL THEY ADD NEW ROLES?

its 2 months that i keep my cards for update

😭😭😭

[steep hinge]

Yes I believe

[woven surge]

what's the seer app buff gonna be?

[steep hinge]

OK nvm

[solar ravine]

Worst Leak in #dev-vote

[coarse wolf]

Lol

Been known

[frozen summit]

Which are the buff and nerfs?

[dusky perch]

something about revive nothing clear yet

[signal crystal]

why nerf gl vudu and flagger...

[steep hinge]

@dusky perch helpppp me they are asking me questions

[solar ravine]

Wait what, seer app buff

Tons of buff on split ww and seer app

[steep hinge]

OK, images sent by @humble current

[woven surge]

cause they were rather weak before

[steep hinge]

These images are not mine

[solar ravine]

Worst nerf is ghost lady

I can say bg > gl

[steep hinge]

Wait what is the buff for illy

What changed

[willow zealot]

Hang on a second no one mentioned no buff

[coarse wolf]

I dont understand why gl needs to be nerfed

[dusky perch]

list all nerfs and buffs
seer app missing but yeh nothing clear yet

[solar ravine]

No more reverting back to seer app

[steep hinge]

It's so strong

[woven surge]

disguised players will now appear as illu when killed

[fresh wren]

Why they used [] on sorcerer

[solar ravine]

You keep sending this💀💀

[steep hinge]

Yayyy

[bronze mountain]

wheezel looks wicked

[woven surge]

and not on night watchman when they're pretty much the same buff

[steep hinge]

You play msm??

If you do what's your friend code

[bronze mountain]

yeah, i started dof too

lemme find it

[tranquil comet]

bruh but which roles are getting added exactly

[somber mauve]

I like these changes

[noble willow]

Buffs: Evil detective, conjuror, night watchman, illusionist, storm wolf, seer apprentice, wolf summoner, [sorcerer] and bomber

Nerfs: Voodoo werewolf, ghost lady and flagger

Violinist will be the advanced role of sheriff,
evil detective will become an advanced role of serial killer!

[dusky perch]

ppl who voted 4

[tranquil comet]

rip to my homie again

[steep hinge]

Credits to the pig conjuror

[agile basin]

I don't understand why all the posted is this

[agile basin]

Oink

[fresh wren]

you mean

[steep hinge]

no... evil detective advanced sk??!?!?!?!?!?

[fresh wren]

Vote 4 pls

[dusky perch]

4 is useless

[steep hinge]

No

No

[willow zealot]

was my idea

[dusky perch]

no one care about custom games

[noble willow]

vote 1

3 is hot potato

4 is probably custom games

[fresh wren]

Oh nvm i just remembered i was already told what was going to happen

Vote 1 pls

[bronze mountain]

1020725064MG

[tranquil comet]

old screenshot right? sorcerer can also read the ww chat

[strong escarp]

Whats 2

[tranquil comet]

hot potaro

crazy mode

[agile basin]

I would say 2, maybe they talk about legacy mode which is the one we have no information about, have we?

[tranquil comet]

legacy is 2018 setup

[worn quest]

New crazy mode

[tranquil comet]

idk what is 4 though

so i vote 4

[bronze mountain]

uh

[steep hinge]

I'll do mine

[bronze mountain]

sure sure

[worn quest]

Someone used to say that this is just a set of ordinary roles👀

But idk

[willow zealot]

According to Lisa, is in brackets because it "should be on the list and should not" implying it's more of a rework than a buff

[vocal imp]

Wait what seer app buff?

[regal nova]

screenshot meta

[thorny tree]

Am I? 👀

[willow zealot]

I think they don't revert upon revival

[steep hinge]

1 must be the honor system

[tranquil comet]

u mean bullying players in quick game meta

[steep hinge]

Have you added me

[regal nova]

new roles 🙏

[vocal imp]

Rework? Bro its 2 marks

[bronze mountain]

added you and lit a light island torch

[tranquil comet]

either none or #speculations

[steep hinge]

Ty so much

[willow zealot]

I'm not too sure about that no more

[tropic blade]

brutcher

[fading crescent]

For vote:
1- number 17 will come
2- New crazy game mode
4- New setting

[tropic blade]

and politician ww

[worn quest]

But the mechanics in general remains the same, it's more of a buff...

[tropic blade]

wdym number 17

[tranquil comet]

nice

17 is sus

17 is ww doc on me

[willow zealot]

Wait we can no longer call 17 and lynch them day 1 every game?

[agile basin]

Most likely

1. Honor system
2. Hot Potato (and maybe Legacy)
3. Custom Game mods

[worn quest]

17 number xD

[fading crescent]

16 There may be more numbers than numbers

[tranquil comet]

#speculations

[fresh wren]

Whats seer ap buff

[willow zealot]

That's where we are

[agile basin]

Lmao

[tranquil comet]

sory

[agile basin]

Dw 🙈

[willow zealot]

Happens to the best of us

[fading crescent]

17. If the number comes up, they will be fully targeted

Or another turn will come

[agile basin]

Quoting Lisa again: « If there are roles to be added it is very likely that they were/are going to be mentioned 👀 » If was not mentionated in role changes... Where?

[fading crescent]

17-18-19-20 may come

[bronze mountain]

we need a gamemode with a ton of people

[steep hinge]

I think you like maw

[willow zealot]

My new theory on

They can either check a player or mark a player in a night

[gaunt flicker]

Y'all if you get 17 day one you best not be bad cause seer is gonna check u asap-

[bronze mountain]

i love its sound, and it's so cute

i didnt work on my island decorations at all

[worn quest]

I wonder where number 17 would be in the lobby if it was added 😂

[willow zealot]

5x5 square for 25 player when?

[vocal imp]

confirmed so yeah

[dusky perch]

for all who voted 4
take this

[agile basin]

The Symetry 🤬

[agile basin]

Nice

[gaunt flicker]

Yea cause there's no even multiple of 17 so it would be a little awkward

[signal crystal]

IS THAT TRUE?

WOOOO

[fading crescent]

But Everyone choose 1-4 number

[vocal imp]

So hot potato is more like an option

[willow zealot]

So would mode be compatible with other roles or does it force a setup?

[fresh wren]

.

[vocal imp]

And not like assassin convention

Which is a mode

[agile basin]

News are: Assassins Convention, Clear chat daily and Hot Potato, right?

[steep hinge]

I love Woolabee

[dusky perch]

yeh its just a bomb in normal gamemode

[steep hinge]

Best monster tbh

[willow zealot]

They don't revert back upon revival

[pseudo charm]

assasins convention row wars

[bronze mountain]

im trying to breed one atm

[vocal imp]

Thats actually nice tbh

[fading crescent]

I wish there was an assassin in sandbox or quick game

[worn quest]

And legacy

[steep hinge]

Have you started Amber island

[bronze mountain]

I GOT ONE AS WE WERE SPEAKING

no not yet

[steep hinge]

NICEEEE

[fresh wren]

Oh nice

[bronze mountain]

cherruble here i come

[signal crystal]

Please anwser me

[bitter oxide]

What this Chanel is for ?

[steep hinge]

I got 2 cherruble already

[bronze mountain]

lucky

[dark creek]

A channel to talk about unconfirmed + potential new roles and features, easter eggs, the rose wheel, new outfits/items/calendars or battlepasses or general speculation about new game content

[dusky perch]

legacy not for custom as its normal game with OG roles

[bronze mountain]

yes it is

[gaunt flicker]

I doubt it considering Lisa mentioned something about a flagger nerf and flagger is not listed

[bitter oxide]

Thanx

[tranquil comet]

naisu

[fading crescent]

Please can those who don't speculate generally chat?

[vocal imp]

?

[tranquil comet]

guys switch

[vocal imp]

Wdym

[tranquil comet]

dont vote 4

[vocal imp]

Vote 1

[steep hinge]

My amber island is weird, I got Drummdairy, Bowhead, Yelmut and Ziggurab

I don't like how plain it sounds, next wave there should be woolabee, floogul and Sooza

[willow zealot]

Vote

[vocal imp]

Vote

[rose agate]

I voted 1 🙋🏽‍♂️

[steep hinge]

Allat for 1 relic per month

[worn quest]

Oh, I didn't even think about custom games🙈

[bronze mountain]

amber island is surely my least favorite island. it sounds so plain and boring

[steep hinge]

True

My favourite island is Faerie island

[vocal imp]

Bro talking about my singing monsters in wov speculations

[next cedar]

Wait this means that hot potato will have an actual rolelist

[steep hinge]

Oh damn I forgot

[rose agate]

It looks like it'll have something to do with personalization? I have no idea

[tranquil comet]

MANDATORY HOT UNLEASHED POTATO ROW WARS INC

[vocal imp]

Yes

[bronze mountain]

wait were we in speculations all this time 💀

[vocal imp]

Hot potato + Unleashed elements

[steep hinge]

Yea sadly

[vocal imp]

Imma transfer you guys to the right place
#off-topic

[gaunt flicker]

Do you guys think when they listed legacy and hot potato in the crazy game mode vote that maybe it wasn't a mistake but more of a teaser?

[rose agate]

👍

[next cedar]

Also hopefully they make premium accessible to the average player

[tranquil comet]

looks like im spamming customs next week bois

[toxic urchin]

real

[rose agate]

Whatever happens

[vocal imp]

Tbh it probs was a mistake

[rose agate]

I hope it's epic

[gaunt flicker]

Yea prob

[willow zealot]

Theorys on legacy mode go

[vocal imp]

Old wov setup

With reg ww

[rose agate]

It'll be about legacies

[next cedar]

Pretty much casual ranked, you can play any role including advanced you don’t own

[vocal imp]

Or another possibility
President mode

[dusky perch]

forgotten mode

[steady quiver]

do we have president in game

[dark creek]

Regular gamemode but with advanced roles and without cards

[next cedar]

No they just add pres as a role and make assasin its advanced

[worn quest]

I think it was just a preparation for the future

[vocal imp]

[gaunt flicker]

Yea probably

[willow zealot]

Ok but what if is advanced of

Both do nothing and must be protected

[gaunt flicker]

I mean?

Would make village hard to win with but eh

[next cedar]

If anything the most fitting role for a president base is fool, I refuse to elaborate

[gaunt flicker]

FR

No that's so true

[willow zealot]

Screw it advanced of

[gaunt flicker]

President adv role: dictator

[dark creek]

WOV lore?

[fading crescent]

What mode of Legacy?

[willow zealot]

You know was originally made for the slot as it's harder for village to win with it but wolves lose their killing "ally"

[worn quest]

is more forgotten than

[willow zealot]

is in the other roles section isn't

[midnight whale]

Was president ever used in normal games?

[worn quest]

I think yes, but I haven't played yet...

[frozen summit]

Yes , in 2019 there was a setup with :
and other

[sharp karma]

What is the seer apprentice buff?

[willow zealot]

They don't revert back with revival

[sharp karma]

Ohh

Thank you😊

[willow zealot]

Which makes the dead info next to useless because they'll die night 1 that's all they get

[rugged panther]

Change seer app to sheriff adv

[sweet pier]

NO!

[rugged panther]

Yus

[tranquil comet]

yes

[sweet pier]

No

[rugged panther]

Better than bg

[sweet pier]

Nope

[tranquil comet]

or advanced is ok too

if u hate advanced

[woven surge]

tbf the new buff makes it either too strong or too weak

[tranquil comet]

but not advanced 👍

[woven surge]

imagine two seers ig day 3 on

[sweet pier]

Yes advanced

[tranquil comet]

ratio

[woven surge]

vs two sheriffs

[sweet pier]

Your giving the ability to protect to gain ability to gain info it’s a valid trade off

[willow zealot]

bad
bad

good (this is a joke stop dming me)

[sweet pier]

Just like how med has what Ritualist lacks and vice Verdi’s

[rugged panther]

Seer app its own base role

[sweet pier]

Versa*

Man all this server is good at is complaining

[rugged panther]

Fr

Sk buff

🗿

[woven surge]

seer app base role and sheriff/vio advanced

[sweet pier]

No that change sucks

[willow zealot]

Better but not best

[steady quiver]

don't you also complain?

[rugged panther]

Seer appr bg adv makes no sense

[steady quiver]

yes i complain yes this server complains but you complain as well

remember yesterday

[sweet pier]

Yeah but I’m not going around complaining about every single role and card pair in living with what they choose to put

[steady quiver]

except you compared wov with tos

and ranted

and blah blah

numero 6 inf

thats what i thought

anywho lovelies

[sweet pier]

They are more or less the same game

[willow zealot]

You just said what?

[steady quiver]

said wot wot

[midnight whale]

Ah gotcha thanks

[sweet pier]

They are

[vocal imp]

Is getting reworked or what

Because sorc is between brackets

[sweet pier]

Sorcerer is getting a 2nd mark im pretty sure

[vocal imp]

Yeah thats what I thought

But #wov-chat message

[willow zealot]

Maybe it's getting 2 marks with an added downside?

[sweet pier]

Wait

It’s in brackets

?

#dev-vote

[solar ravine]

New roles released at 11 march

[sweet pier]

Those aren’t brackets… they are a different name that I can’t remember

[willow zealot]

Imo it shouldn't check on nights after it marks

[sweet pier]

Brackets are ()
Not []

[solar ravine]

No new roles in the leak

[willow zealot]

Parentheses?

[solar ravine]

At #dev-vote

[sweet pier]

It’s a big assumption that the released roles will be and

And possibly

[willow zealot]

is guaranteed (new icon too)

[vocal imp]

No () are parentheses

[plush hollow]

It’s kinda same 👀

[vocal imp]

Ehhh idk

[sweet pier]

I thought it was the other way around

[tranquil comet]

who told you that

🤨

[willow zealot]

Brit spotted

[solar ravine]

Im just excited for wolf summoner buff

[sweet pier]

Do you guys think the long missing slowly becoming a myth judge will be coming with the new season

[vocal imp]

Fake news

[solar ravine]

It is

I hope aww in judge game

[next cedar]

I hope they will make a new seer adv

[vocal imp]

New adv when

Since corr will only have 1 adv

[tranquil comet]

op and unbalanced informers get put as advanced instead of being removed

[vocal imp]

I want a new corr and a new sww adv

[sweet pier]

So the evil detective will now uncover teams while failing to double kill now right 🤨

[willow zealot]

Theory: eventually every role that existed before card update will become a base role and new advanced roles will be created for all of them

[tranquil comet]

its still bad lol

now more people will double kill ww and village

[vocal imp]

Nah ed is going to be better

Because sk adv

[sweet pier]

Also is cannibal staying advanced role of sk too

[vocal imp]

Yeah

Sk gets 2 advs

Corr will only have 1

New rk when

[next cedar]

I hope I get to keep my gold corr icon

[willow zealot]

Crazy idea:

->

->

Less kills but you choose them at that moment

[sweet pier]

Maybe you’ll get that + Gold serial killer

[next cedar]

Yeah cause while I do like ED, corr is really fun when you know how to play it so yeah I hope mt gold corr stays

[solar ravine]

Bully, spy, locksmith ability is too complicated

[sweet pier]

I wonder what will happen to my golden -> card

[next cedar]

They are advanced roles, they are supposed to be more complicated

[solar ravine]

It convert to rare card vio

[sweet pier]

Rare!?

[solar ravine]

Epic card ghost lady*

[sweet pier]

That’ll make it lose a full rarity

It better not

[solar ravine]

It better be

i hope it convert to epic

😛

[sweet pier]

Now

No

[next cedar]

For example

[sweet pier]

If it converts it better be gold

[solar ravine]

Imagine you have golden ghost lady

And get another golden ghost lady

[regal nova]

eh

being in the same family is fine ubt

it's rather a weaker be the base role

[willow zealot]

One's an informer one's a protector

[regal nova]

both share the visiting mechanic

it's just that 's balance was outta wack

well

is

tbh

[frosty gorge]

Will they add the number 17 in matches?

[regal nova]

no

[willow zealot]

BOOOORING

[frosty gorge]

Good thing, it would be bad to play with 17

[next cedar]

Thats what option #1 is

Maybe

Idk really

[regal nova]

wh

[willow zealot]

Get slot 17 and instantly be targeted every game for the next week

[frosty gorge]

Number 11 would be left alone and number 17 would be the target

[next cedar]

Maybe also slot 0 that nobody cares about

[willow zealot]

Double everything 32 player

[frosty gorge]

It would be impossible to play

many messages

[next cedar]

It has to be a square number so 25 player mode

[willow zealot]

The screen is a rectangle it's fine

[next cedar]

Yeah a rectangle that takes up the whole screen and more

[willow zealot]

Make the grids smaller

[regal nova]

eh

[willow zealot]

They're gonna do it for player 17 after all

[frosty gorge]

The illusionist's buff will make him better than the corruptor, since you can play like sk and kill instantly

[willow zealot]

But you can pretype a message that comes out before you die if you're skilled enough

[frosty gorge]

You kill medium and some rrv role, you can lie and no one will doubt it until the end of the game

[next cedar]

Yeah but you could do the same with corr

[willow zealot]

Aight idea 2

Players that AREN'T killed by you appear as

[frosty gorge]

But with corruptor you take a long time to kill, and quiet players are more suspicious

[frosty gorge]

That would be better, I just feel that with the illusionist buff now, the role will be a little stronger than the corruptor... But it's common for killers, sk advanced roles is an example

[willow zealot]

That's literally the only example but ok

[frosty gorge]

It has arsonist and alchemist too..

[torpid sparrow]

Whats buff?

[willow zealot]

You can't time those kills to your liking as much

[willow zealot]

They don't revert upon revival

[torpid sparrow]

Everytime i sacrifice , it gets buffed

Smh

[frosty gorge]

At least you don't have to risk holding it and then getting shot and dying

[willow zealot]

Sometimes that's a better thing

Also black potions can be blocked more easily

[frosty gorge]

Yeah, but the red ones are good for extremely protected players, and you can kill every day

Arsonist can be blocked by traps ?

[agile basin]

yeah, traps and jail

[frosty gorge]

But Red potions can't, Right ?

This makes alchemist slightly better than arsonist

[steep hinge]

Finally illu got buffed

[dusky perch]

idk what lisa mean but in codding [] means its not important (or required) but can mention it

and sorcerer buff is extra reveal role for teammate and able to read their chat not a big buff

[tropic blade]

in math first you gotta add [ and then ( so [(5x + 3) - 2] - 5

has nothing to do but i find it fun

[deft vault]

What do yall think edet buff is gonna be

[frosty gorge]

Sorcerer should always be able to reveal

[steady quiver]

Math 🥰

[tropic blade]

i think (its been almost confirmed) that he will be able to see the teams of players they checked as =

[tropic blade]

who r u

[steady quiver]

Im meeseeks

[deft vault]

E det info role is coming 🔥

[tropic blade]

look at me

evil det info faking

hey reeya

[deft vault]

Im gonna try it lol

[dusky perch]

if u dont kill ur target

[tropic blade]

i wouldnt recommend it

[deft vault]

My first buffed edet match is gknna be me faking aura seer

If in n1 i double kill and nothing happens

[tropic blade]

if i have an evil det advanced card am i getting sk into edet?

ima just use canni then

lOl

[deft vault]

Goodbye any unk role claim, this is a new start.

[deft vault]

I think you get illu

[tropic blade]

alr i take it

[deft vault]

Im not sure how they wsnt to make these work out

But hey illu is a very good one

[tropic blade]

it should be a Flow chart

you get something you dont have

[deft vault]

The ppl you kill are hidden

So they csnt be revived

[tropic blade]

not sure if that would make illu too strong

[deft vault]

(Coming next update)

[dusky perch]

yeh its will be sk/ed
when base role change the adv role dont change

[tropic blade]

ew

sucks

[frosty gorge]

If the numbers 17, 18, 19 and 20 are added, so there would be 5 werewolves in the game? Because increasing the amount of villagers would be unfair, only number 17 I think is unlikely
I wonder if the in-game chat would become unreadable

[tropic blade]

with 24 players we need 6 ww

with 8 we need 2

with 16 we need 4

so yeah

though it wont happen dw

[frosty gorge]

I'm curious to know this option 1 in #dev-vote

[dusky perch]

for base when

[tropic blade]

seems itll be the honor system

[dark creek]

or... they will add more avatar slots

[tropic blade]

could be

but i think thats kinda

uhh

unneeded

like

24 avatars are enough

[woven surge]

and why announce such a small change

[tropic blade]

its not small per say

[woven surge]

well in comparison

[tropic blade]

in comparison to what

[woven surge]

the honor system

[tropic blade]

the honor system is as big as getting new slots

(not really big)

[woven surge]

i mean it's something new so it would be more interesting to annouce/tease

[tropic blade]

perhaps

[dreamy grove]

what's the ghost lady nerf?

[agile basin]

They bound to the player who succesfully protects so if they die, ghost lady will do so

[steady quiver]

New avatar slots? 👀

[dreamy grove]

oh basically will be sacrifice to protect someone?

[tropic blade]

mhm

[steady quiver]

If that’s true then yayyyy for meeee

[tropic blade]

why

[frosty gorge]

They added almost every letter of the alphabet, just missing "Y" and "Z"

[steady quiver]

24 isn’t enough for me ngl

[frosty gorge]

I have more than 500 roses, more avatar slot will be welcome

[bronze mountain]

give them to me

[frosty gorge]

[steady quiver]

No me.

[delicate scroll]

This is what I’m thinking. We’ll see, I guess.

[steep hinge]

Gimme

[tropic blade]

24 what

[fluid nebula]

seer app buff?

[steady quiver]

Avatar slots silly

[frosty gorge]

Sorry

[signal crystal]

mamma mia mario

[tropic blade]

hate speech wtf reported

[pseudo charm]

nah it's gonna be 5x5

i'm high on hopium

[lone spade]

SAME

i‘m begging for More Skin slots since months

[torpid sparrow]

I barely use my 4th slot, what ate yaal on about 😭 😭

[edgy snow]

if gl after the nerf bonds with someone but dies the next night, will the person she bonded with die with them?

like split ww?

[steady quiver]

LMAOO I HAVE TO KEEP SACRIFICING CERTAIN SKINS

I’ve made a total of 72 avatars

I counted

[edgy snow]

i need fast answer

[lone spade]

I ALWAYS MAKE SS FROM THE ONES I DELETE

in Case they add More Skin slots 😭

[steady quiver]

Haha I did that too and put them all in a google document

[edgy snow]

.

[agile basin]

As far as I know, no, it only works on one direction

[humble current]

yea so you can't just take a wolf hostage

the wolf holds YOU hostage

[lone spade]

Yk what I‘m done, I‘m starting a feedback 😭

[steady quiver]

XD

All the whales must rise

🐳

[edgy snow]

after successfully defending someone, will the role of gl be revealed to that person?

like now

[humble current]

yea

[agile basin]

Yep, that remaims the same

[edgy snow]

okay

[humble current]

@dusky perch this is what I mean

[regal nova]

hope it's 2-way

[regal nova]

screenshot meta

🗿

[humble current]

wdym

[regal nova]

"clear chat daily"

[marble remnant]

none of the 4 options are not really anything UNknown esp if you look in this channel a lot
this IS the spoiler channel already, pretty much...

[humble current]

oh I get it lmao

video record meta

[tropic blade]

hot potato (me)

[marble remnant]

gl and flagger were annoyingly overpowered (idk voodoo wold enough to judge) and in contrast to what a lot of people think, its NOT gonna make the game more enjoyable to keep such roles unchanged

[regal nova]

users explaining why I can't screenshot their nft

[tropic blade]

voodoo ww only purpose was to shut seer down // nightmare med and save mutes for late game

while its a versatile role, realistically speaking its meh

good against tg, good against flagger, good against informers

[humble current]

voodoo solos

[tropic blade]

you need to snipe med to be actually useful against tg

and you need to find tg to be able to mute it

find flagger nightmare flagger kill flagger

but nww does it better

[vocal imp]

when screenshot

[tropic blade]

ong

its the only bad thing about storm

and ofc role cards

[signal crystal]

for me was not necessary nerf it

[vocal imp]

Player notes

[tropic blade]

ong

[tropic blade]

*and ofc role cards"

[vocal imp]

Yeah well ok

Could of said perks

But ok

[plush hollow]

Players notes is basically perk from roles cards

[vocal imp]

Yeah

[plush hollow]

Alj by role cards meant that._.

[tropic blade]

nah

i meant role cards

[fluid token]

Hello how can we have access to the wheel rose ?

[tropic blade]

idk

im no scientist

siuuuu

[agile basin]

Hey, to find the rose wheel you have to go to your inventory and once there click on the roses you have (between gold and gems) Each spin costs 30 roses

[signal crystal]

but

[tropic blade]

butt 😳

[next cedar]

Storms problem is that it doesn’t cut off info unlike nightmare/voodoo

[fluid token]

Oh thats nice thank you ! I’m gonna go try

[signal crystal]

its confirmed that conj will be able to speak with death people?

sorry for my eng

[tropic blade]

no

but yes

[signal crystal]

ok

HAHAHA

[agile basin]

Better explained imposible not gonna lie

[tropic blade]

it is not official but we know it

hehaw

[signal crystal]

uhhhh

so

[next cedar]

I mean conj is confirmed to be getting a buff at the very least

[tropic blade]

while devs havent explicitely confirmed the change, we have found files in the game that do confirm it

so yes

its 99.9% it will happen

[signal crystal]

its also true that butcher and other wolf will be add to the game

??

[tropic blade]

we dont know

maybe

[next cedar]

No idea

[tropic blade]

or do we

😳

[signal crystal]

i keep my cards for moths

[tropic blade]

ong

[tropic blade]

well stop keeping them

:^

[signal crystal]

sium

[unique elm]

this^

[toxic urchin]

If blind ww doesnt get released in the update I’m not keeping my cards anymore

[jolly pilot]

What's the Seer App. buff?

[jolly pilot]

Boy do I have some news for you

[humble current]

I can't find it either

[toxic urchin]

not sure

From the 6 roles they will probably only add 3

[humble current]

99% they are adding wolffluencer and butcher in the first day

[toxic urchin]

bruh

[humble current]

they might, just might add blind ww mid season like they did with bellringer

[toxic urchin]

I thought it would be players that are killed by village

[humble current]

ikr it would make most sense

[unique elm]

No👀

[toxic urchin]

I guess it would be useful if you kill some confirmed good and steal their role

or you get lucky and get seer d1

[humble current]

it's just corruptor 2.0 but it stops u from stacking

it's really counter intuitive

[toxic urchin]

“The Illusionist has killed player 10 (Illusionist)”

[jolly pilot]

Pretty sure I saw the Wolffluencer and Butcher golden icons, so that's prob who we get

Which might I say, the Butcher icon is class

[tranquil comet]

might as well just be the illusionist killed 10

[toxic urchin]

Bell ringer got released with another role right?

[jolly pilot]

No

[tranquil comet]

like corruptor

[humble current]

no it was added mid season

[jolly pilot]

Bell-Ringer was by itself

[toxic urchin]

ye

oh

[jolly pilot]

If I recall, it was silently added

It wasn't a big announcement, I mean

[toxic urchin]

Yeah I remember waking up and seeing bell ringer while looking through roles

At the start of the season last time, it was two roles?

[jolly pilot]

I remember the bug where I could only see base roles in the role list

[toxic urchin]

Vio and astro?

[tranquil comet]

flagger vio and astro

[humble current]

no, astro came with gambler

[tranquil comet]

they added 3

[jolly pilot]

Vio Astro and Gambler cane with the Cyber Update

[humble current]

wait what

[tranquil comet]

astro gambler jelly i mean

and flagger vio summoner

batches of 3

[jolly pilot]

Wait yeah

[tranquil comet]

getting lazy fr

[toxic urchin]

so there should be 3 this update

[tranquil comet]

last it was conju storm and mid season BR

nah

[toxic urchin]

praying for blind ww)

[tranquil comet]

they lazy will just add 2 lul

[toxic urchin]

bruh

[tranquil comet]

maybe blind ww bugged

they messed up mb

[jolly pilot]

Who came with the last update again, before BR?

Dark Magic

[tranquil comet]

astro gambler and jelly

[toxic urchin]

blind ww in a nutshell

[tranquil comet]

yeah that bug

isn’t it fixed though

[humble current]

it got fixed

[toxic urchin]

it is fixed

[jolly pilot]

Did any roles come with Dark Magic?

[toxic urchin]

I once checked half the village by accident

Cause witch ig and I wanted to check fast

[tranquil comet]

#game-change-log message

🤨

[willow zealot]

[humble current]

and

[fathom niche]

I think 8 is a killer

[humble current]

I don't see seer app buff anywhere

[toxic urchin]

I think so too

I think the buff will be

[tranquil comet]

seer app buff is that it no longer converts back to seer app if the role it stole is revived

according to some sources

[toxic urchin]

probably

[humble current]

the description is still the same

[willow zealot]

I don't see how that'll help honestly

[tranquil comet]

which is nice, hella annoying that you become useful for like 1 day

[tranquil comet]

well theres people already crying

about 2 seers

seer died

seer app turn to seer

med rev seer

[toxic urchin]

still sacrificing my seer app card for a golden icon

It won’t change my mind

[tranquil comet]

which i assume is why that drawback got added in the first place

[willow zealot]

I mean dies and gets revived boom two dets but good luck

[tranquil comet]

also the additional buff before

[toxic urchin]

but thats basically aura gr

[tranquil comet]

so if can recite the info of the dead informer

[toxic urchin]

gr doesnt revert if they are revived

[tranquil comet]

dead informer gets revived, dead informer says is right, is permanently informer

easier said than done though

[jolly pilot]

Seer App doesn't belong under BG

I understand why it's there, but I don't like it

[willow zealot]

Wait someone understands? Tell us

[humble current]

most messed up role tree haha

[jolly pilot]

What if Seer App was under Cursed, but they made it so Seer App could turn into Wolf Seer/Sorcerer?

Or even Evil Det

[willow zealot]

Still kinda village biased

As village would know who they turn into

[humble current]

that sounds good on the surface but

yeah exactly

[willow zealot]

Move seer app to they both get info upon death

[jolly pilot]

I like that

[willow zealot]

Like which I understood

[jolly pilot]

Makes RL have two, makes BG have two

If lS comes

[willow zealot]

Still not a fan of as they play different roles

is also nerfed due to delayed protection you'd never protect more than once

-> imo

[jolly pilot]

Gl def shouldn't be base

Maybe swap it

[tranquil comet]

???

thats.. confirmed right

in that case

we’re moving

[humble current]

wdym

[jolly pilot]

How tf do y'all get access to the dev build

Or whatever it's called, I can't quite remember

[humble current]

ls being advanced bg isnt news

[echo kestrel]

Any idea what gl nerf is

Or the illu buff?

What confuses me the most is evil det buff, isn’t evil det fine?

[jolly pilot]

Gl becomes spiritually bound to their target if they're attacked, and will die if their target dies. GL target won't die if GL dies

Evil Det is soft buffed, they're moved to be an advanced SK

When Illu kills someone, that person will appear as an Illu upon death and can't be revived

[echo kestrel]

That is oddly overdone

[tranquil comet]

for sure, it also makes no sense

at that point u might as well give them a ? like Corruptor does

its the same thing pretty much

[echo kestrel]

My idea would be disguised players who die are shown as illu, unless they are killed by illu

[tranquil comet]

why making people appear as would make sense is if they die by another means, like

thats how I think it should work

[vocal imp]

Wait what

[humble current]

Bro what is so surprising

[vocal imp]

Yeah

[echo kestrel]

Gl used to be like a buffed bg

[echo kestrel]

Hell naw they added locksmith

[humble current]

no they didnt

[tranquil comet]

like what I mean is
you disguise 10 for example

The Illusionist killed 10 (Illusionist) ❌
The Gunner shot 10 (Illusionist) ✅

The Illusionist killed 10 (Doctor) ✅
The Gunner shot 10 (Doctor) ❌

[vocal imp]

Tbh we dont know what role could be added only one who got confirmed is

( got a golden icon so thats also pretty much confirmed)

[vocal imp]

Yes would make sense

[echo kestrel]

The former (if checkmark means show as illu)

Nvm

The latter

[vocal imp]

The illu buff just makes illu a better corr tbh

Only difference is against

If you're illu you gotta have fast fingers

If you're corr you're safe

[echo kestrel]

Basically after the update

[vocal imp]

I wonder what is the sorc rework

Since it's not a clear buff

[jolly pilot]

They can see wolf chat I believe

But not interact

[vocal imp]

Thats a buff not a rework

[tranquil comet]

thats in the code yeah

the other one from the screenshots is that it has 2 marks instead of 1

2 marks + can view ww chat

[vocal imp]

Thats a buff tho

Not a rework

[tranquil comet]

theres nothing u can do to convince players who already said sorcerer is weak that its not weak anymore

they will still complain

[vocal imp]

There's a reason why [sorcerer] is in #dev-vote and not sorcerer

[tranquil comet]

meanwhile the enlightened people are gonna have even more depression 💀

I know the feeling where you get frustrated that nobody knows has a good aura or they are watering claims

[vocal imp]

#wov-chat message

This pretty much means sorc is getting reworked

[jolly pilot]

Illu should make it so if the player dies via any means they look like illu

I can't help but feel like the devs wanted to do that, but were worried it would be too op

[tranquil comet]

because it is too op

at that point u wouldn’t have any reason to play over it

if its like then there is some skill involved, and it is different to

[unique elm]

For me Illu & Corr are literally the same role lmao

Since the buff

[jolly pilot]

Exactly

Minus the silencing. I'd honestly say Corr is still better

[humble current]

illu is simply more op, thats all

[unique elm]

For me isnt even more op lol

[humble current]

think about it

let's imagine the best case scenario

[jolly pilot]

Now, if it caused disguised players to appear as illu when they died by any means, that would differentiate them from corr, and make them stronger than it

[humble current]

you random kill day one, claim rrv, which happens to be the dead person's role

[unique elm]

Idk tbh - for me its literally the same

[jolly pilot]

That strategy is FAR from successful, most of the time

[tranquil comet]

its sk and canni almost but not really

can stack but can’t

[jolly pilot]

And Illu has no silencing

[unique elm]

I just hope flagger can redirect illu

Otherwise I agree

[humble current]

is counterintuitive

stack for no role to claim

don't stack for role to claim but no disguises

[jolly pilot]

Exactly

[tranquil comet]

tbh the player will just say their role out loud anyway so if they do die in another way the stacking doesn’t really help you much sure

[jolly pilot]

If the village doesn't believe them, from lets say, checking them, they could vote them out and they would appear as illu

[tranquil comet]

its just that the ww will kill your disguised targets then they’ll blame you for being the useless one 💀

[tranquil comet]

but noooo… like the dev said he’ll think about it I guess it is not doable 😔

[jolly pilot]

Well, the devs will listen to feedback and watch illu games, and they'll do what they do

[vocal imp]

Illu can stack and mess up info + it can kill faster then corr

You can play illu as a faster corr if you want to

So id say illu > corr

[next cedar]

Its downside is thats its risky to stack up kills but has potential to be worth it

[vocal imp]

You can just play illu as corr

If you think its too risky

Disguise then instant kill

[next cedar]

Yeah but thats kinda boring tbh, if I get an advanced role I would try using it to its fullest extent

[vocal imp]

Yeah also its weaker

Stacking your early disguises are better since the night 1 is random

[next cedar]

Also stacking disguisess gives you room to claim when directly checked

[jolly pilot]

WAIT A SECOND

Hold the phone

Apparent Bomber buff

"Legacy' crazy game mode

Are we getting more people per game

[humble current]

yeah bomber buff is that they can place on empty/dead squares

[vocal imp]

glitch 8
check 8
dies for free + corr glitch wasted

disguise 8
check 8
dies due to shadow

Stacking early disguises is better

[grizzled hearth]

Sounds fair

[next cedar]

Yeah I got bb just in time for that

[grizzled hearth]

Also Shadow could just say they are actually good but illusioned

[jolly pilot]

Is that #1 in the vote the honor system?

[vocal imp]

Doesn't work on day 1

[jolly pilot]

I really think #1 is more players per game

[next cedar]

No idea I kinda hope its 25p lobbies but I doubt it

[vocal imp]

Also if you stack you can even survive being checked by

Which is pretty strong

[jolly pilot]

Bomber buff fits with a 24/25 player game

[vocal imp]

You can buy some time

[jolly pilot]

Legacy game mode

Bigger games I feel are def happening

What else could the Legacy crazy game mode be?

[vocal imp]

Bomber description mentions a row of 3 players

[grizzled hearth]

No skins and cards?

[vocal imp]

at his potential

[jolly pilot]

There will naturally be more dead player gaps in a 24/25 player game

[vocal imp]

Oh wait screenshots

[jolly pilot]

Which fits the bb buff

[vocal imp]

Legacy is probably going to be old setups tbh

Or maybe a mode with adv roles

[jolly pilot]

Well, we only have a few more hours until they reveal what #1 is

[vocal imp]

I think 1 is honor

Or new roles

Probably honor tho

[jolly pilot]

I feel like the honor system was mentioned too early by devs tbh

But I can see it being that

[next cedar]

I think there’s honestly a chance that storm could get the concuss instead of the chat clear

[vocal imp]

It should be concuss instead of the hide vote tbh

[next cedar]

Yeah but I mean out of the vote options

[jolly pilot]

I still think being able to place bombs on a dead player benefits you better in a 25 player game than a 16 player game

[next cedar]

Bc the ratio for the gl vote is way bigger than the ratio for the storm vote yet we are still getting that gl nerf so thats why I think there’s a chance

[regal nova]

*shuffle

frfr screenshot meta

[next cedar]

Shuffle can stay, it still can mess with most players and if anything is just fun

[regal nova]

I disagree

it'a literally worse than

the ability

it mechanically does nothing

[next cedar]

Bc they chose abilities that are fit for an alpha advanced because it is an alpha advanced in disguise, however shuffle is a bit iconic for storm so that is what should stay, and hiding votes is just as if not more useless

[regal nova]

no?

hiding votes is it's best ability

all others are negated by screenshots

[rugged panther]

Guys im so happy

[tidal sable]

Not every player would like to think that far ahead

[rugged panther]

Sorc getting a buff

[rugged panther]

Why bigger?

[jolly pilot]

No, I'm saying we COULD be getting bigger gamemodes, and the Legacy gamemode would be the original 16 player game

[rugged panther]

Just keep in mind people are playing on phones, 25 would be a bit small yk

[jolly pilot]

Yeah, I'm aware

[grizzled hearth]

nOt FoR mE

[jolly pilot]

But I'm really not sure what else Legacy could mean

[rugged panther]

Original roles

[jolly pilot]

Eh, I don't know how I feel about that

[rugged panther]

Im fine w it

Sorc gets buffed

Itd be sorc jww reg ww and idk

With sk

[jolly pilot]

I remember people talking about Sorcerer getting a rework, not a buff. They said that cause of a peculiar thing a dev said

#speculations message

There ya go

[rugged panther]

[jolly pilot]

So who knows what sorc is getting

[rugged panther]

Sorc op

[jolly pilot]

I'm pretty sure they'll be able to see wolf chat and have two marks though

[rugged panther]

I slap as a sorc user

[jolly pilot]

Sorc is definitely fun, I just hate it when people use it wrong

I've only played it once, as a hero. Though I wanna get it next

[rugged panther]

Its really good to use

Im always able to lynch villagers and win

Im a good sorc player

Sorc supreme

[jolly pilot]

Lmao

[rugged panther]

chooses sorc and leaves 🗿

[jolly pilot]

People are dumb lmao

Just realized Sheriff is gonna be in RRV now

That's gonna be fun

[next cedar]

Indeed

[jolly pilot]

And people complain about double Witch being strong lmao

Double Sheriff is gonna be unreal

[next cedar]

Info is secretly useless

[rugged panther]

Triple vio, gambler and seer games

[tidal sable]

Sherrif still better than vio

[rugged panther]

Nah

Vio better

[tidal sable]

You confirm someone is a killer

[jolly pilot]

Love how they admitted Vio is only advanced cause it's more complex

[next cedar]

Sheriff is a seeking informer

[rugged panther]

If u choose somebody that dies

Vio finds out whos vill and whos ww

Every day and night

[tidal sable]

Playing preacher has made me really think about who's gonna die next

[next cedar]

Vio is constant info against sheriffs efficient info

[rugged panther]

I dislike preacher

[tidal sable]

And if you can guess two players

[jolly pilot]

Same with Flagger for me

[jolly pilot]

You dare besmirch the great Preacher's name

[tidal sable]

You will █████ in ██/██/20██

[jolly pilot]

lmao

[tidal sable]

Preacher is more gambler than Gambler

And I enjoy gambling (non-real currencies)

[rugged panther]

Monopoly

[jolly pilot]

Monopoly and Preacher are fun

[hoary sorrel]

Thank you!

[jolly pilot]

Don't thank me, thank yourself for being the best way to tear your family apart on New Year's Eve

In the best way possible

[cloud cave]

Seer app is getting another buff? 🤔

[tidal sable]

A buff we don't know about

[edgy snow]

me too, boring role if u dont have luck

[somber mauve]

imo best buff for seer app would be not be bg's advanced 😭

[cloud cave]

Maybe seer app becomes sheriff advanced

[tidal sable]

Be a better gambler

[edgy snow]

i dont have gambler