#speculations
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I've this one, the neck part is a pink big heart shape and chain is also pink
how i can get this ee?.. ee from lolita clt and 9mare clt..
ah i can see it
but
gift 1 or 2 or... of then get it ee?
1 i guess
for the box it's 2
tbh i still dont understand about how to get those two
So judge role. What do yall think it will do
There are lots of ideas in role ideas' channels so difficult to know
And maybe is a completly new one
This one for role tournament, maybe? I find it a bit weak imo
I finded this #rt-roles-2022 message but weak too
Interesting π€ (how is that similar to jailer lmao?)
juddgee
The old grumpy grandma now has a friend
You have to gift to someone 2 skins from this collection >.>
Illu nerf π₯² (not really but)
any idea what's the judge role do?
@dawn cairn
Kinda like it
but compare to jailer/warden looks weak
take someone to court π€
imagine if judge is second vigi advanced role π³

There bully, but imagine it could be another mayor advance 
Wait
@tranquil comet
I rREMEMEBET THIS ROLE!!!
I REMEMBER
The one in #dev-vote
Judge is quite an oversuggested name. There were even two "Judges" in last role tournament. Also, devs can also create roles that hadn't been seem before in rome suggestions
My Judge version just opens a new voting phase after the original one lmao uhm but I bet this gonna be interesting π±
nah that ainβt it, looks bad
@plush hollow you look so fine in that gif π» pretty
Ik. I participated in the rt
eww its you
Valentine Calendar?
Not sure, these were added in 2.6.10
Anyone got leaks for Judge
this is nice
Will check
Found anything?
New inventory filter and sort icon? @dusky perch
No judge? Hmm... OK. This seems useful
Not in 2.6.10, maybe in 2.6.11? @dusky perch might know about the web version?
I have these wings but i don't know how did i get them,
Battle Pass
stage 67
uh, i wasn't sure because when you complete a tier it becomes darker and gets a green tick on it so
thanks
nothing important
just this
Trash listing imo
nothing new yet
i think its either i broke it or devs still working on it cuz show legendary dont work
Oh
Do you have java script? Check the java files
Nvm
It's too hard
So if devs are working on it I hope its good
If its bad they wasted my time
too lazy for useless thing
True
Blind wolf coming again with the wolffluncer?
legendary items=bp items and buyable items ? π
yeh its same option in settings
oki thanks salem i was unsure xdd π
could be a good option
kek np cutie pro
So judge is pretty much
and prosecutor from Traitors in Salem (choose 1 player that will get voted out during the day also you prevent
)
Judge gets added
: π (another counter)
: π
What's Judge?
I refuse to believe thats what the role does
That's one of the reason why I asked what's Judge
Judge will be advanced of Priest (most likely), they can kill another player if village fails to lynch somebody
π€
i saw its jailer
The ranking will be deleted in 2023 
I asked philipp
goodluck with that
fighting the urge to make a comment about a certain collection ngl 

fr
Anyone knows abt this ee
@lusty finch you need to send a rose to someone wearing this. Hope I'm not wrong. XD
So I've to wear the same skin as well right?
Oooooh thank youuu π
why suddenly nightmare back to be adv of shaman
Lol
fact or cap
i guess its bug but in game atm
ikr xD
weird π€
oh noooo
still didnt change 
So I've to wear the same skin as well right?
Why u dont find it for us
im waiting
Gotta love the new paci skin ngl, time to meme around as paci again π
said by the rich
10$ can buy me dinner for 4 days
wish they make skin alone for gems π¦
Well it's indeed a lil sad that you can only buy these with money
π 8$ was at least better
Same ngl I love it and those coloursa
True, sad that the inflation exists
Angel blue is a mood
Ahaha yess and the cat and the background is so pretty
aahajahaha
Btw, I did it, I upgraded sorc to gold π
gigcjad

Im waiting the new conj icon
I'm waiting for new wolf fluencer icon
I'm waiting for astro to be deleted
Speaks in comic sans
non-sense to delete one role π
non-sense to understand a joke (I have been repeating this phrase for multiple months now and you are still extremely dense)
cyan prolly didn't get the joke cause it's not funny
honestly he doesn't even get my awesome jokes
you're probably here because cyan summoned you
he did
feeling the friendship goals when ppl assume this
and starting a meaningless argument
so instead of continuing this meaningless argument, how about you leave it hanging?
okay
good
cyan you're the dense one
no i didn't π why should i tell that to dot when it's not something important. I don't see the point tbh.
why are you continuing this argument
liar you did... you called me saying it was an emergency
bacon behaviour ngl
Cause i can defend myself? and also remember i don't need anyone especially for that.
Not gonna bother anymore, go keep barking
Um
!rank
#bot-commands for that please ^^
Juicy bacon
π€€ dense and juicy, pancake material
I literally just ate pancakes, he wouldve been so tasty on them
Shush you both

heh??? so you say that Canadian waffle is trash?!
Nubs
So they decided to add judge ey
Give judge a bullet to
So he controls voting that day and can shoot
And let them decide who ww kill during the night
Same as sk
And make it advanced role of loudmouth
Why do you want each role to have a bullet?
Fc could use an ability where if they save a person, they get a bullet
NO

sure let's buff villagers
I donβt think itβs needed
Small buff to a regular villager: every time another villager is killed, you gain a bullet

that would be a great idea for wolvesville 2: the sequel where flower child becomes flower man/woman and wants to avenge the death of their parents bc of some anime plot writing or sumt. suddenly nothings flowery for them now.
lol
yes
they have the best syrup 
true
What I want to know is the logic behind being
advanced, it's not like jailer has anything to do with votes
Then again
is a thing
wait we actually know about the details of judge?
wdym
its a prediction
it was in #rt-roles-2022
i think
Judge is quite an oversuggested name
guys,pls giftcode
I think there are not currently working giftcodes, but you can get discord shirt and discord hat if you still don't have them
ok
I assume you do have them?
Wait fails mean nobody get voted that day?
yeah
Pretty op
hmm interesting
kinda sounds like the judge in the og werewolf game
not really
its just priest with water can lynch anyone
so its like you select player and if no one got lynched that day the player you selected will be lynched instead ?
surely
counter
every ww has counter in cost
only jelly ww dont have counter
even berserk has counter 
so basically giving the village the advantage for NOT being proactive
unfunny role, same level as vigilante
detriments the game
don't add it
change it
its may sounds op but in the end its one time use
and also wolffluencer op if village didnt find them first
Flagger redirect can bypass jelly protection (it happen to me once)
where's it mentioned it's only one time use?
its wont make sense to be unlimited
advanced so its limited use at least
can be pretty powerful late game depending on situation
if its a 1v1 with rk then rip rk
tho unlike priest or mm it doesn't seem like it had any penalties for killling a villager, at least there arent any that i see

i do agree that the role is... not really fun
ngl judge feels like it could also be the advanced of fc since it involves not lynching anyone, except more powerful
yeah thats what I think as well
i just wanted to drag someone into the court :<
but it kinda syncs with fc so better not to
im tried of 
^
mm has the fun factor
is it confirmed or just a spec
mm has two arrows with delay, judge requieres a lynch'nt
so not only it being advanced doesn't matter to me, but also there's nothing confirmed
and until there's nothing confirmed, it's op until otherwise stated
and if it's limited to one use
eh
priest better
name a base role stronger than it's adv role : priest
bandit
doc
seer
medium
theres a lot lol
if u want a bad role, take corruptor, and wolf seer according to sb players but it depends
lol i agree i hate corruptor games
specially when corruptor only killing villagers when all wws alive
after getting 3 protections yes
right now no, only yes in a very specific situation
yeh i tested with 3 protection is cool
i tested it too
ok add 4 protections to it now but nerf the other ability bruh
doctor

some people say that vigilante is better than gunner and i was like huh
reveal sometimes better than shot yes
Yes
If Culinarian was added then the role would be op
I can see you protesting against it if it ever got added
However
Judge cannot be coming to sandbox... ALONE
There must be one other role too!
i wonder if this could be judge in game
I actually think so
Reworked storm wolf >>>
Nice qr-code for inventory 
ahahahah i couldnt find shirt icon
π€
Idk if judge is better then mm/priest
Huh? What is the green one?
Judge is really only good if votes tie
Or as a recruit
there π
something not important
If theres no one lynched you can lynch a player
Holy shit
That's op endgame
We need another role from the #rt-roles-2022
Add a solo killer
We're tired of wws and villagers and advanced roles
Add base and make some new rv rolws
Yes
Or a new cupid advanced
whats the thing below sb supposed to be
hero join
wait i mean the censored one. unles it really is hero join. tho if its insider stuff i won't prod
private thing
hmm ight
kinda ugleh
This isn't based on anything at all. I just think the hoodie wws will get new role icons for next bp because of the theme
I wish we could just get a killer who can see roles
Like make alchemist a base role and have it so you kill one person and reveal another to yourself
Idk idc, i only play as villager anyways
Sometimes i massacre the ww bc i can
that killer would be so strong
Donβt forget 
Already has an icon from cyber
I doubt they'll add another icon to the same role after around two bp
cough cough

has it?
Spirit seer doesn't have a bp icon
well i hope it will be in one
maybe maybe not
maybe
will get body in next bp
Terrible idea
buff would my preference
Haven't been keeping up with recent info. Other than the Judge, are there any other roles possibly coming to sandbox that we don't know of?
What is Bp29 Theme again?
Cozy
I will not like Bp29.

I want
actually covered in his hoodie


Anarchist doesnt cause anarchy
Ppl just be like, no fool ig, lynch the person
By the time that 2 villagers are lynched, ppl know who is anarchist
Maybe have an anarchist that can conceal votes and lower the required votes by half once or maybe twice(might be powerful if twice) in a game
And they have to select a target to lynch before the anarchy vote
I mean, the conjuror animation when reverting gives the same shadow hand as shadow wolf votes, so anarchist could have the same thing
Anarchist needs a rework
What? It doesn't make the sww hand when I revert as conj
It does to me, ill ss it and send it to you
it does I'm pretty sure, not sure if it's a bug or intended but it also happened to me when I was lucky enough to become a conjuror as a hero
I almost play conjuror everytime and never saw this"hand"
I did
Thats just a bug that happens when someone is converted
ππ
Could you tell me all easter eggs avaiable now?
gift the calendar or 2 skins of the ny minipack to someone 
What's Next calendar? Valentines?
prob yes
gonna be dot themed


Charles Leclerc themed π€ͺ
@plush hollow bacon themed calendar when? You should def collab with sad and kem
Ofc with my nub draw ahahha
No... you don't do designing, you're their muse...
AHAHHAHA
Nice! You are a Big fan of him?
yes, I meet him every week
Awesome
unrelated to the convo, but what designs do you have in game? 
nothing special, only a Loading screen
oh which one
It was available on the 13 of this month
Yeah, it's an easter egg for Friday 13th. The next time there is a Friday 13th, send a private to a friend π₯πͺ and π·πͺ
Owww so cuteeee
13th october
Friday 13
Yes
Is that sk icon?
Not icon it is front item
That's a need
Maybe
should be able to check 2 people
Better spirit seer?
I thought at first that it actually does it
But it's still just a worse version of gambler
Idk what devs thinking really by not fixing vio problem AND ADD BULLY
I hate bully π
yes please π even if I used it to win easy village games
Or...
SACRIFICE THE ROOOOOOK!!!
Or, PROMOTE THE PAWN TO NEW BASE ROLES!!!
Or... Promote the pawn to NEW RK ROLES AND RV ROLES!!!
looks like someones been watching some gothamchess
Bully op
Ima make bully gold if it comes out
Youll see it first by me in the gc
Ew no
Bully is just a straight up downgrade
Not being able to kill instantly hurts A LOT
bet you never encounter someone giving headache to
so they cannot revive 
Yall trippin, bully is shadow vote counter
Yall telling me yall never have shadow votes activated on you
And also if u hit a suspected random killer, and they dont kill next day, thats pretty much a confirmed killer
Yall looking at the role as black and white
fr the role is broken
sure, you giving me a reason to not to kill as
for one more night, i can hope
has a Protagonist syndrome and will kill someone at random just because they thought that person is 
It doesnt tell chat that bully has concussed somebody, idk what ur on. If im bully, im not saying when ive concussed somebody
If two unk are claiming the same thing and its obvious one is real role, fool or rk, concussing one and not telling village with rk killing next night clears the person
Yall just lookin at the role as black and white
Im sure the devs will buff bully if they decide to release him
3 pebbles is not good enough imo
im aware it doesn't tell in chat, but i would try kill
intentionally, hoping that
gave concussion to
or even if something prevents my kill and
gave a random concussion they might assume their target is 
sure there is no
can be as
etc. and no
or any other fixed good unk or they just do rolecall day 1. sure balanced setup we are talking about
Bully op π
Yes and aww op too right
nothing beats
as he will be countering 
Lol bully wasting all 3 rocks to kill 
tbh gunner wastes 2 bullets too but
now i want to test it so bad
same thing one day faster
Judge incoming
Bruh bully is bad.
1.If there shadow voting and no revealed wws vigi can reveal a player. But actually there can even not even be shadow in game. And are you like telling me that bully is only shadow counter? What about fc and mayor and they advanced roles that could be in rrvs?
2.If there is that sus rk player then vigi or gunner can push them too. And bully works only at rk that way,what about wws?
3.Vigi and Gunner is much faster than bully. If ww is rocked then wws will just kill bully and he will be useless.
I'm pretty sure that there can be more - about Bully. Vigi and Gunner is so much better than him!
But if bully manages to guess a ww and throw a rock at them before they vote or throw a rock instantly at shadow if seer is smart enough to wait π
The bully can be better than both if played correctly imo
(And tbh if they had 5 rocks instead to be equal to gunner + 1 stun)
bully is worst if its a gamrthrower or random killer
Yep
But for now all you can do is give benifit of the doubt bc not everyone fully understands bully yet
As it would be an adv role of vigi it will reduce the percentages of random kills/throws π€·πΌββοΈ
i dont think so
Then don't think so π€·πΌββοΈ
Im agree πwith the two bullets like gunner the random kill and throw were high, same with vigi and the random reveal/kill. With the bully it will can kill someone random and mute them but not reveal their role
me when I stun both informers and kill one of them afterwards
Since throwing a rock at someone isn't noticeable unless that person speaks up (or gets thrown another rock) some people seem to think throwing rocks randomly is okay
Although people aren't getting random killed as much I have the impression they random concuss more than they random kill
actually if they're voting the vote is removed now for some reason (it's intended)
3 stones bully to much
2 stones is fine
it's like getting from vigi with one shot to gunner with 2 shot and then bully with 3 rocks
will the next advanced from vigi be a dark magician with 4 spells or what?
is not allowed to go random reveal unless other players agrees on random reveal
Hmm idk can be better and worst I would say better ._. Usually random kills in early game so itβs fine?
Since it disabled speaking you cant even defend urself
Just shoots you the next day
i remember a game i was med
i warned village about bww being ig
bully concussed me
and killed me right after
then i got reported for not reviving aura but i was stunned
thats why i dont like bully
Soem bully throwed a rock at me when i hero joined then when i say report them for random they killed me i was doc :/
People think random rock throwing is okay
4 spells, you can use it to vote-block people. One of the 4 spells will kill, but you don't know which.

i called it out next advanced for vigi is dark magician 
imagine someone brought this
buff #feedback-devs message
fr --
lets downvote so it wont happen π
If shadow ig i dont think that someone wont mind random reveal. But really no one reports vigi for revealing usually (even tho they can).
Real
Saw someone asking about this in #questions, you get the WOV emote by saying βWOVβ in a game and next game youβll get it
@steady quiver
Itβs that ee expired
Yes let me just reveal doctor or medium or jailer on shadow vote so ww and rk know who to kill
Id argue thats actually worst than no reveals π€·π½ββοΈ
Go off ig
is butcher still disabled?
Yep
It got butchered. Ba dum tss
Afaik its not
last year there was also smth like that by saying "I love Wolvesville"
how to unlock the WOV quiz as seen here? #wov-chat message
Read the faq or click on the category and you will be able to unlock this quizz.
i did that and it didnβt work
jailers shooting for no reason as usual
Open and close them quickly
Then I know everything will appear
Keep opening categories in the FAQ page until you see red text at the top saying "I know everything!" and click it
gurl, don't tell me about it
the icon looks bomb but cmon.. the other roles also need some love
so pwetty
For real π₯Ή
The fool icon is the highlight of this calendar ngl
im getting it for the fool icon and the emotes 
Same, the 450 gems are totally worth for the fool alone 
Time to fool around with love
i loved my gold fool icon π
but this love fool icon is great
AGSGSS
Hm? Does a new calendar have role icons?
yup gunner and fool π
fr, take my money 
Which calendar, I don't see it
i wont spend money
dot who says that
that was before i laid eyes on that good looking fool icon
im definitely spending less money on wov
AHAHAH
It's on the pic tho in #item-previews
or other solution dot: i gift to you 
Oh the pngs you mean
They are not available yet
Oh
or make your own ones by cutting the image
may be with api you can get png idk
Ye
hacker
ofc i hack ! you didnt know? 
another calendar another 450gems will go
icons in a calender is interesting
first fully pay 2 play icons π
i wonder what kinda item the white bunny is, it looks so weirdly zoomed in
or an emote perhaps?
looks like this
ah its an emote okay
emote i would say
its def not my kinda theme but there's like 3-4 items that look good/useful to me
both but mostly female hair is nice
the round choco-cloudy background
the red beanie
I honestly like this one way more than the new year calendar, fool icon clearly carries
i found the new year calendar to be a lil repetitive, there were some items that looked the same and just had different colours
personally i'm in for a bit more diversity
I totally agree, the items in there were pretty simple which is good since there are a lot of over the top items that are only usable for their original skin but that one felt a little repetitive and I don't really see a lot of use in these parts, there were a few items that I really like tho ngl
gunner having 4 icons while vigi has 1 is so crazy
Iβm sorry? Gunner doesnβt have 4?
Okay I was wrong lol
Although tbh I count that as 3 because default isnβt really an icon π
i was also including the new one in the calendar π
What π
Me wanna see
Ooo
One for fool too
I might give it a purchase
Itβs cute
Another gunner icon ?
Gunner is so overrated rn 
And in a gemium calendar, which is also great
ong

this 2 are role icons?
yea
ok i realy thought this is just for the skin
I want em
buy the calendar
^^
i like the fool one though but i not realy need the gunner one tbh
same here
true but i like my neon vio
What about a love themed Cupid icon
It would be way more perfect
For the love themed calandar

Gunner and fool fit too with the them :)
Have you ever thought about... MARKSMAN tho
nah
The emojis for anyone who wants them
cupid is true love icon as it is rn
i wanted ghost lady icon in it

i have 2 gunner icons i can use rn why everytime gunner
Lol gunner has 4 icons
i not use the basic icon
could be
ask that flo in next ask us anything event 
does anyone know when will the wintercoats collection come out
This will be the first time i will be buying a calender
Cuz i wanna have all role icons in existince
My wallet is crying
Lol we are the same
any news on
?
lol
It seems everyone have it?
I have that
yes
Reset the game
xmas cursed and bomber has same id with fool and gunner id
so if you own that 2 icons you also own the icons (until devs fix it)
id?
π₯²
restart the game
well yes i can see i have valentines fool from my alt
its item from xmas2022 calendar
is that true
i got it too
same id
need skills
can you help me
sorry
Be Salem
ask his parents π€·π»ββοΈ

voodoo muted after died ? that new to me
@charred drift do you have Xmas icons?
i think some of my viet friends have gunner and fool valentine icons for free
Developers have been notified
Will be fixed as soon as possible
thx
my bomber and cursed xmas has gone π΅βπ«
I had a bomber christmas icon, I don't even have bomber -.-
So I never got to use it
well my game screen is fine
i just checked my inventory and it was there
I didnβt buy them at all
pls let me keep
the fool one at least
lol
π₯Ί
cuz its cute
why the black
better
yea I'm simping over it
uwu
Uwu so cute
||too bad coz I'm simping for you||
promise 
promise what
you're simping 
fool for you babygirl π
AHAHAH absolutely I'm a :uwu_fool: for YOUUUU
@opaque mulch ^

Gunner getting a fourth role icon
Rip they fixed it
Fixed what
@strong escarp
This probably
Gunner showed up as cursed for some time, I think that is what they mean
by accident added the 2 icons in place of cursed and bomber xmas icons
Too early for april fools tbh... i hope they bring that interaction back π
It was kinda funny, ngl
i saw that one in bugs, sadly i couldn't get to play with it
Gunner looks different today
delicious gunner

is that the gunner slot

Yeah, as stated above the two new skins for gunner n fool got placed at the xmas cursed n bb slots
imagine you telling people that x is
and there is also
in the game
So ppl who bought the calendar already saw in their inventory that they had the two new skins but these truned out to be the upper mentioned xmas icons
Happends to me every 3rd match for obv reasons
and they lynching
and game ending on the spot 
Very sus 
gunner got head
the question is to buy or not to buy?
I only bought it for fool my beloved
If you think that you will use the cloths in a good way and you already have a concept on how to combine it, go for it. Otherwise think about how much value this calendar will bring to your inventory, if it doesn't correspond with your expactions then skip this one
its straight 10 week worth of gems (assuming not slacking off daily tasks) π im just unsure
You can wait to see how the items actually look on avatars
guess this seem fair, do i get to collect everything if i buy later?
Yep
I like fool icon skin and a shirt and giving 450 gems for it, dk π€§
Tho i bought funky nights calendar just for ghost hugging emote 
im upset... i learned another interaction
how can i get this
Red Lady will prob get a buff
Semd a rose to a staff member. (Optional: send them a hug, too. they deserve our love)
can also be a translator/designer, as long as they're wearing wov team items
Where can I find a staff member?
They surprisely (sarcastic) play the game.
You can find them playing sandbox, quick game... You will eventually find them. Also, it's easy to find them when staff hunts are organised
Go away
Ghost lady is fine
I enjoy doing this
do you realize that being able to do that with no drawbacks is the reason why it needs a nerf?
Rl can do that too
but rl still dies if the other player is evil or dies
Saying
is fine is such a village fanatic's line
Ok maybe something like they cant visit the same player 2 days in a row
Like gg mutes
Of they die 2 phases later after scaring off an attack
So a weaker tg?
#sound-ideas was really useful ngl
We could have really cool sounds. Too bad it's removed
Real πΏ
Bruh
Playing as ww (except jww and split) is stressfull
Same with informers too
For rk, they are fun but not the highest in the priority list
Nah imo rk/ww/cupid/cursed then village
I searched a lot in the sandbox and I will never find it in the quick game π
uh im playing sandbox if you wanna join
I remember getting three times attacked (ww tried kill me then sk then ww again, and i saved seer after, and game ended) π
this is definitely not client side
finally, lets fight back.
and other under the radar villagers will finally be looked at 
oh wow they killed the pig on the left, heartbreaking
ikr
@plush hollow there goes your cousin
it will be nerfed according to #dev-vote so enjoy
while u still can π
there's lit only one thing you can do as gl.
@steel quiver you have to gift the meow calendar and someone must gift it to you
Fine π
Yes sk being forced to draw a 1v1 with gl is fine
Yes a role that's pretty much invincible with literally no risks is fine
Not every vote will affect the game cause I dont think this was the first time they made that poll
i remember answering so many vote polls and i don't even remember if a majority of them were implemented
then just make her not visit the same target consecutively
like
mutes
that's still strong af
remember you're still immortal while doing so
solution is giving em a limit of visits
keep in mind it's an rrv
Nuh there nothing to nerf about her
theres been plenty of ideas already
Any change in gl wont be sense
How many other roles can lead to tie vs sk not only gl
And her protection only once same like bg. Nerf bg too ? And cant protect same player ? Nerf gl is worst idea
then change those other roles too, im sure
needs looking at as well. and so what the protection is only once, you confirm yourself and ww donβt even know u stopped visiting. you donβt even have to protect and instead infinitely protect yourself by visiting other evil roles
is not fine, you only convince yourself because you love the role. But it is not ok, u must also think from the perspective of being a
and you have to play against a
maybe more than one
QHHAHAHA you
Not just a love but all you think about is game with only gl and wws π there is rk, rv who still can help killing and gl not immune to bomber,araon, alchemist (red pot) gl just need fair setup and everything will be fair in game 
10 docs are useless in sect game u cant protect aganist sect. Nerf sect just cuz doc,bg,tg,gl cant protect from sect ?
I remember once there was setup with only witch protector and rl if picked gl can protect and its was fun in sandbox but 3 info roles was op
for the same logic gunner should be removed from the game
and so should astro, witch
i should be removed from the game, too op
Too weak (nub)
yeah, there's only 5 out of 11 rk roles that gl can actively do something against (thats if illu doesn't disguise gl). zb, bandit, sl, there is strength in numbers so gl in worse position. I've played a lot of gl games and my village stat wins aren't even that high. I have nearly 80% as gunner, only 70% as gl. You wanna nerf gunner next?
Gl protection is used up fairly easily and you run risk of using it to protect ww from rk, or protecting someone that gets converted later on etc. Stop hatin' on gl just cause you don't know how to navigate around it (been nightmared and killed plenty of times).
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The point isnβt that
has an op ability, its that its ability has zero drawbacks.
for example has to visit an evil player and die in order to gain info,
can visit whoever she wants and even if she canβt visit again its because village canβt sus her anymore because she stopped a full ww kill or RK. On top of that,
is a
that replaces another
in this case
which as I explained isnβt so bad
is obviously miles stronger but its meant to be like that because its a
and a backbone for the village. Village do not need a ton of protection, they can live with just a single
and be fine with it but the absence of a
makes villagers ability to kill evil roles far slower
I just pointed out the drawbacks. I've protected wws from rk in the past, protected cursed or gr just for them to convert later on or other villagers that get converted. I have only one protect, once that's gone, that's it.
Using
on a
is a waste
theres far better targets to do so
if anything youβve just proved that
is strong enough of a role that you have to use the strong abilities of ww to get rid of her
when that shouldnβt be the case
it's still a waste
proves an rrv
wastes ww resources
are you telling me ghost lady has the same level of power as fc?
its not like u would do the same things just to kill a 
to put that in perspective
delusion
and also you donβt have control of which
is going to spawn
yes
and such can go through it but does that mean every game will have an 
its better to be consistent
what every rk has a different effect on the game
and why should
even be dousing a 
why is there consistency needed from a villager role?
canni and sk can't deal with gl
cuz gl has a reason to be chosen
it being blatantly broken
so does corr which can skew the game towards evils cause of roles being hidden
trust me I have
and I do use it, admittedly it is op for the role that it should have
yes but not a fixed rrv. Corr can be fixed just as rl can be.
And for you point on rk vs gl, rk should auto win with one villager left
there are some things which shouldnβt change cuz yknow, its an easy way for me to do the not die for 3 games challenge but nonetheless its not a βfineβ role, and it needs a nerf of some form
it saves everybody time and it prevents things like that. Also, out of the 400 games I've played as gl I've never been the last one left with rk. Sure, it can happen. But it never has.
that's cuz no one is exploiting gl yet
if you end as the last with
it means you play only for yourself aka selfish
which I don't do cause that's pointless. I always end up being on someone who is second-tier important
someone not obviously protected by doc
still you saved someone, proved yourself as rrv and got 0 drawback
and my protection is usually gone by night 3/4
Iβm still for the accordance that
should act as the last line of defense for village incase the fixed protector is killed, not just a second
that canβt be killed by ww attacks while visiitng
you're pretty much useless after. What's fc's drawback from protecting someone getting lynched?
protecting and being immortal is way stronger than protecting someone from being lynched
still useful for village that an attack was prevented and they know one more villager than they did before
do I need to explain why or can you deduce it on your own this time?
ww missing even 1 kill gives village a very big edge
and also being able to confirm as many villagers as possible is part of the agenda to find the ww faster
ok, but that doesn't explain said drawback. That's what you said, lmao.
thing is gl is stronger than fc
even when fc has the drawback of maybe protecting someone evil from being lynched
it doesnβt have a drawback that makes it on the level of a
like u can see in #dev-vote its just clearly stronger than 
and even then fc will mostly be useless except against shadow ww or something
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Ok, so all of this is based around a potential exploitation that I've never seen happen ig. Wws have seer, it sucks if they miss a kill, but with smart play they can come back from this. Gl is not the single determinator for whether village wins otherwise my gl village win stats would be a lot higher than they currently are. Drawbacks aren't a thing for every village role out of there, so don't see the point in adding it for gl when it's not a hard role to navigate around, but if you want to do it then at least don't nerf it to the point that it becomes useless.
a potential exploitation + it being stronger and easier to use than its base role
are you still trying to justify the fact that gl is op?
weβre not trying to make
useless, it just needs to be in line as a
and has to be balanced replacing roles like
or maybe even
since people suggest that too
isnβt the single determinator u are right
but its part of the problem
like combined with other op villagers hiding in 
who also need to be looked at
I think red lady stronger
elaborate
like if worried about a big nerf, just take something as simple as, the
canβt visit the same person two times consecutively. thats a small step to balance
so now it canβt just stay on the same person whether it be a way to be unkillable by direct killing roles or be a second 
Or just remove the role revealing when successfully saved a person
alternatively, I can invite them to a game and they give me rose >:)
Apparently if it's the first time you send a rose to anyone wearing the staff items, it notifies you that you "sent a rose to a staff"
Someone in my game sent a rose for all and started freaking out when they said they apparently got notified that
nobody realized it was me because I subtly integrated the mask with my avatar >:)
I just let them freak out about a staff ingame
z0mg staff
when in reality... It was just me
!!11!1!1!
I usually wear this avatar. So new people get two "rose items" at once
they get 3 when I'm dead >:)
Hi, question: why are there items on the Valentine's Day calendar with the number "520"? I can't understand why x)
5+2+0. = 7. It is a good number
well what i see is that gl op vs rk so the only nerf can happen is to make it auto win when rk and gl left same as rk vs jailer auto rk win
otherwise limited visits will make gl useless and not able to visit same target twice wont change anything
wws still can nightmare gl and kill her if they scared of her
what is the 3rd
Yuss there's a "You have found a wov team member" message
its just an example and its good u say it wonβt change
much as its supposed to be small nerf
ww shouldnβt waste resource on 
if you want to get rid of bg you can always counterclaim and try to get them lynched or shot
it's insanely difficult to do that against gl
immune to lynch and kill
exactly yes
It mean I love you π
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if you playing to win
playing smart is key to win whats point nightmare seer when all protectors alive and you know protectors ?
its like

u see now
if you play with newbie village otherwise who lynch claimed bg
when bg alive = seer wont die = no need check claiming bg or lynch them until confirmed bg cc them

protector not bad but theres more than one + u want to lynch them
rl is enough useless role and now you want make its adv also useless ? that will make sheriff useful more than gl
nerf gl to not being able to visit same player twice sounds good
it should not be so much stronger than base
actually not much better than
too
i prefer
base but its ok
Trickster can be easily countered because of
"Omg 6 claimed what 10 (who was tricked when dead) said!!! They appeared as Trickster. Let's vote 6 out!!!"
are you a staff
please i would love to play
the only use i see as trickster is to trick seer when shadow active so seer cant be revived
She is helper so yes she is staff
Oh oki
yep
on its own is hard to play
but i think
needs the buff more
if they make enchanted player appear as random ww from setup will be better than just shaman
why keep enchant work after shaman get killed if seer will see enchanted player as shaman that kinda help village more
it would only be effective vs
imo and if it selects an unknown ww then it will have
effect instead
and
is already op so
The main problem I have with
is it comes down to a lot of RNG of who is gonna be checked
yeh mostly seer who catch roles aura will just say x evil and x can claim to be enchanted or anything as aura cant tell if x appeared shaman or not
π€‘ random enchanted fool and got lynched
Sadncastle
I mean even just the simple, shaman also works like
(permanent enchant) except its not unlimited (like 2 or 3 uses) and doesnβt kill, this is just town of salem solution btw, would make
more consistent
I can also wear the christmas fool or cake for a 4th one
although roles like
donβt really have specific counters by ww that other info roles arenβt already countered by
thats the point of
is to mess up info but it doesnβt do that to half of the existing info roles
same with 
like the
tree do a better job at controlling info than
does and thats not even their main job
btw what happened to the christmas fool hat?
I never see this ingame anymore
did it get deleted?
Every year features new items for christmas so I think ppl rather use the newer ones
hi what sentence we write to the game that will receive the ee like : " I like playing wov" or kind of that i forgot it tvt
Let's play with cards - gravestone
WOV - emote
Hello Wolvesville - shirt, hat and gravestone
π - shirt
The pronunciation of 520 in Chinese is close to how 'I love you' is said in Chinese
that's clearly something I have to know
How do I get this?!?!?
(the one without text) is gotten by giving a rose to someone wearing any version of it
are those still available?
Still
Only staff version i guess
hi how can i get discord hat and mask
about discord hat, go to #bot-commands and type ?tester hat, and sadly we don't have discord mask
and if you ask anything about game and server, go to #questions pls
okay i thought its ee so i go to this server
Omg i need this
Bonus items for winter coat collection
Can I ask when butcher going to come back in sandbox ? 
Devs knows
"maybe" when everyone get 2.6.10
Not sure though
Ahh okay thx for the info
how to get this ee again?
https://vouchers.wolvesville.com/
Code: HAPPYDAY
(if still available, no idea)
aw it doesnt work anymore, ty tho!
It is only avariable on November 1st every year
β @olive pivot
:0 ty for the info!!
no collection for me
to much outfits i not like
Can we get another easter egg if we send February calendar?
every calendar has ee when you send it once
Doesn't Gunner have like 5 icons now
Standard, Cyber, Christmas, Valentines and Gold
4 icons i would have with the gunner icon from calendar
normal neon christmas and calendar skin


