Erel Light

[dire oyster]

they are usful when bossing

[plain patrol]

So i.made a mistake by extracting all lv 1 nodes

[dire oyster]

i won't say its a mistake, i will say its not as efficient as extracting at lv 25

since lv 25 nodes gives more node shards

[plain patrol]

Oh

Considering the node amount used to rank up the nodes it still give more node shards in return? @dire oyster

[dire oyster]

someone did the math before, and i believe justmeasure has a guide on thi son reddit

let me try to find it

[plain patrol]

Oh nice

[dire oyster]

for your indepth reference https://www.reddit.com/r/MapleStoryM/comments/154xgca/guide_notes_about_nodes_all_about_nodestones/

[plain patrol]

My brain melted reading all that but thanks

I can sleep while thinking about what it all meant

[dire oyster]

think of it this way

a boost node, at level 1, gives 10 shards when extracted

same boost node, at level 25, gives 1102 shards when extracted

it cost 54 nodes to get to level 25

1102 / 54 = 20.4

meaning, extracting a node at level 25 grants 20 shards per node spent, vs 10 shards per node spent at level 1

[pallid plaza]

My brain hurts 😵‍💫😵‍💫

[sullen hollow]

damn, solid 100%+ gains

[silent gyro]

Guys what do y'all do with ur burning weapon?

I wanna upgrade to ancient weapon but not sure if I should just buy emblem jaihin from TS instead

[thin swan]

upgrade event weap to ancient and get tradable mythic emblem for necro

[dull marten]

yea i made mine inherit

[plucky wind]

Or keep it

Armor is helpful for bossing and sf maps if your erel gt nth to kill

[silent gyro]

[plucky wind]

What comp you guys using with erel as main attacker for kerning tower? I m stuck at 46f

[dire oyster]

just get one of your OP guildies to carry

onces a day, for free

[fast zealot]

Does our iframe work on alters in Damien?

[dull marten]

i think as long as ur iframed u cant clear alter

[hallow leaf]

"iframes/shields" like explorer mages' ethereal form and wind archer's gale barrier works on alters, but all other iframe do not work

[fast zealot]

That's what I thought, didn't up trying to see

[lyric lodge]

Does erel is good for free to play

[plucky wind]

If you can still burn, it's good with any good and bad class

Main carry of the world

[rain mist]

Erel needs a buff and longer Iframe like pally

[upbeat ember]

not happening

just play paladin

[rain mist]

I main pally but want to Erel.

[upbeat ember]

no class is as equal or stonger than paladin

just stick to pally

its better

[dull marten]

no

hero is def better

totally unbias opinion

i struggle to cap on erel but actually is quite strong

[grizzled pawn]

Man my Erel kinda weak lol

Full legend armor still can't AF30

Poor nodes tho

& lv30 weapon

Not sure if pot positive on SF144 either

[dull marten]

do you have higher af?

so u take less damage

[grizzled pawn]

AF50 yeah

[dull marten]

im still abing in 184

i put a bit on nodes but i managed to clear Hmag

took 2 burst so just played around my burst timings

[grizzled pawn]

Yeah nodes might be huge. Can't afford to funnel away from main yet tho

[grizzled pawn]

Dang that's kinda nuts. My main ain't even there yet

[dull marten]

Who do you main

Pls be hero

[grizzled pawn]

Lol

I play the ancient hero

[dull marten]

lol yes I play hero or lol u got it wrong

[grizzled pawn]

AKA Hayato

[dull marten]

Ew

[grizzled pawn]

Get rekt

[dull marten]

Tsk

[upbeat ember]

That time my wep 40

Full legend scale exp flame

Kinda ahh

[upbeat ember]

https://tenor.com/view/maplestory-gif-4711918672017055711

[rain mist]

Ya paladin OP rn

I really wish Erel was OP for a original Maple M class

[upbeat ember]

Paladin is always “op”

[upbeat ember]

Same

Turns out pretty mediocre class

[rain mist]

Thought they would make strong and balance out later

Very mediocre

[upbeat ember]

Nah

When i say equal or stronger I don’t mean dmg wise its just that paladin kits fits so well into the team its literally Tier 0 class

[rain mist]

Ya they are super useful in all teams. I guess my reroll to erel is gonna be canceled

[upbeat ember]

Yeah don’t reroll

Its not worth it

Erel kinda reminds me of dawn warrior

Meh then u get to burst then after that meh

[rain mist]

Ya that’s exactly what it is

[upbeat ember]

And u use the same skills over and over again 💀

Dude even in 6th job dawn warrior is basically the same

[rain mist]

Damn this hurts, I was really looking forward to Erel. Wanted a new main and aim to be top 3 on server.

[upbeat ember]

Hey i had the exact thought

“Its gonna be op”

[grizzled pawn]

Boring tbh

[upbeat ember]

Cannot even overnight

[grizzled pawn]

Especially with 3min cooldown on burst

[upbeat ember]

Weak ahh class

Loss to pigs

[grizzled pawn]

Hahaha wth your Erel cursed

I just top up with v8 pots

[upbeat ember]

Bro i abandoned that account

Its so cursed

I main dw 2 times then switch to erel with is dw but blue

I gotta be one of the dumbest mfs

💀

[grizzled pawn]

Lolol I remember that

Ya idk why I pushed my Erel

[upbeat ember]

bshp > dw > dk > dw > erel

2023 2025

[grizzled pawn]

But is k just another alt now

Try Hayato fam

[upbeat ember]

nexon sold it so well

[grizzled pawn]

Super mobile

[upbeat ember]

tried

[grizzled pawn]

Not for you?

[upbeat ember]

yeah

strong class tho

but

[grizzled pawn]

Think I want Shadower next

[upbeat ember]

not a fan

my shadower 200 ytd

[grizzled pawn]

But lazy to lvl without burning lol

[upbeat ember]

5 seconds excitement

[grizzled pawn]

I saw. Grats man

Lol why

vskills underwhelming?

[upbeat ember]

very

shadower is more of a high funding class

[grizzled pawn]

Dang

[upbeat ember]

worse than db

man i was so wrong

its a f2p class that is very underwhelming

its like uh

fire poison

those class that only shines mid game onwards

[grizzled pawn]

I guess Paladin is still top choice lol

PaladinStory

[graceful stone]

I remember seeing a YT video of a shadower bursting every boss with one skill

[upbeat ember]

yeah sonic blow

[grizzled pawn]

There's so many top players specced into Paladin. I think Nexon scared to nerf lol

[upbeat ember]

between a shadower vs dual blade once u fund enough it will be shadower

but if no funding, winner goes to DB

i test all of my characters on czak, and hvl

usually once u hit 181 u can solo czak

shadower took damn bloody (pun intended) long to do that

[grizzled pawn]

Ooo can meh

[upbeat ember]

yeah

[grizzled pawn]

I never tried. Only did nzak for alts to fulfill daily task lol

[upbeat ember]

just make sure u have jaihin

[grizzled pawn]

Can't be bothered if not one shot

[upbeat ember]

its just a limit testing thing

[grizzled pawn]

O ya no wonder. I'm still rocking the unique utgard lmao

[upbeat ember]

so i know how strong a class is

and how much funding hell i need to go through

[upbeat ember]

clean jaihin

no need emblem

[grizzled pawn]

So what's your next toon

[upbeat ember]

mythic max 30 gives u 54% cd

[upbeat ember]

i already have it down just need to save mesos

hero, dual blade, bucc then im closing it

[rain mist]

What’s your main?

[upbeat ember]

i went with shad initially cuz this account is new

its like 1month + old only

[grizzled pawn]

Wah one month lv200? Shiok

[upbeat ember]

its going be a hero

[grizzled pawn]

Haste event helped a lot?

[upbeat ember]

after a fat dissapointment

[upbeat ember]

yeah this event is actually really really good

[rain mist]

Okay true!

[upbeat ember]

since 2024

dice has been convincing me to play hero

[grizzled pawn]

@dull marten prophecy fulfilled

[upbeat ember]

back then im still a dw

even when i was in pc right, my guild leader asked me to play hero

but i went with bishop

[rain mist]

Hero seems fun

[upbeat ember]

it does look fun

my favourite 6th origin skill

i rmb watching it live

and the first class they show is hero

i somehow went in circles

[rain mist]

I feel like Erel will get its shine in another year or so. Sia being so strong now I have hope

I guess ya the 6th skill will be nice but hitting 250! Is a lot

[upbeat ember]

erel is going to get "balanced out" in 2 years

[grizzled pawn]

I thought she kena big nerf

[upbeat ember]

yes she got nerfed but idk what specifically

my theory is that

all original class will get a "nerf" every 2 years to promote the next original class

now i could be wrong but its just a theory

i think they will balance erel's mobbing ability

[rain mist]

She got a nerf but I know some Sia’s out dpsing a lot of people.

[upbeat ember]

does seem like a solid class to me

downside is that there's a bit of learning curve

but not as bad as cadena at least

[dull marten]

yeaaa

ok but in PC hero is in the bottom of the DPM chart

but if u like to see big damage then hero is ur choice

[upbeat ember]

ik but whenever i see their burst

its so satisfying

[grizzled pawn]

Oo I wanna see

Otw YT

Hmm no compilation vid I think. At least not for MSM

Hopefully PCMS same

[upbeat ember]

Got

Wait i send here

[grizzled pawn]

Oo must've missed it. Tyty

[upbeat ember]

Its korean side

Gmsm no content hahaha

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ylo-aT01s4

[still eagle]

Hero is not strong as you guys think

Only if you going deep with money 💰

Sia strongest in stationary bosses, all content above Damien Sias struggle a lot

[upbeat ember]

my honest reaction

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dLHCS6oL7lo&list=RDdLHCS6oL7lo&start_radio=1

[grizzled pawn]

Bruh sweeping statements like that is true for most if not all classes

[silent gyro]

Guys what stats should I go for for shoes belt cape and shoulders?

Is it crit atk/crit rate or evd/acc?

[dull marten]

personally i would go crit rate/atk

[frank hemlock]

Whichever you value more. No objective answers honestly

[plucky wind]

Erel is for carrying trash class for my allocation of classes after playing the game and understandingin midst of lvling erel post lv 150 in fresh acc

Erel is better than hero I think

But hero is fine with other classes that aren't bad in pre lv 200

[frank hemlock]

👀

[upbeat ember]

Bruv

The only actual “trash” class i play so far not because the class is bad but because this is mobile, is cadena, not enough buttons, and its not responsive enough

The rest of the class are good

[plucky wind]

Icic

So I no need to push so hard if my class is not that commonly used

[upbeat ember]

Whats your main btw?

[frank hemlock]

I honestly dont know why you keep saying Erel is trash class lol

pick a main and level it to 200 so you can play the game

and Erel is amazingf

[plucky wind]

It's erel. The main money maker while the rest are wa, bw, blaster and nw. So not that awesome alts

[plucky wind]

Erel burning weapon is the reason to play, it's alright. And I was referring to other classes because carry. (Djfj) Class so it must be other classes like above. Though those are not trash anymore, its just hardly played

[frank hemlock]

Okay

gotcha

if you dont enjoy Erel though, then you should playu whatever class you enjoy

then turn Erel into a farmer

[upbeat ember]

why not just pick

awesome alts?

why pick the best awesome class as a main, then pick 2 more awesome but not as awesome as your main and make them alts

sounds like a pretty awesome plan

[plucky wind]

Because I alr created diff worlds with diff char and played some

Yea I was thinking of stopping funding my alt if I only using them to help erel but if it doesn't need then

[upbeat ember]

wait

so do you like erel?

or not

[plucky wind]

Yea I like

[upbeat ember]

ok go find 2 more alts that u like

and invest in them

[plain patrol]

Isnt bishop the biggest dps class

[tranquil sapphire]

Is there a bossing/hunting recommended skill wheel pre lvl 200? Or should i just use the ones the game recommends?

[fast zealot]

Check the pins

[dire oyster]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1329257176211918888/1329302177008848896/image.png?ex=67eb67a0&is=67ea1620&hm=0f4a4fb37ad7630ba74b4185f9c58156f55fee596d9e9b2636c56063697ecb1f&=&format=webp&quality=lossless

if you dont have V skills, just ignore. the rest of the setup is the same

[plain patrol]

Wait i bundled the 2 dash/teleport skills together and didnt bundle that 3 together

Is that a good one

That's actually sick now that i think it

Delete Erel

[dire oyster]

One of the dash is a stun, might be useful in bossing. Otherwise doesn't change anything while AB. It's up to you

[plain patrol]

Makes sense

[plucky wind]

Dashing is alright for farming

[tranquil sapphire]

You don't use souls?

[plain patrol]

If only we can 1 hit with dash

[fossil yacht]

A60 sure one hit

[plain patrol]

Im not that strong yet haha

[wintry ermine]

hi guys. i need advice. am i doing it right?

[wintry ermine]

i hve already have no 1. still searching for number 2.

[upbeat ember]

looks good

i would put my v skills on the first 4 cuz its fits right through

then u can enchance those 4 slots

first row 1234 v skills (use slot enhancement)
second row 12 (trios since u only need 2) 3 (whatever)

not that it needs to be this way but its more readable

[wintry ermine]

did u mean the skill in red circle?

[upbeat ember]

yes those are v skills

usually i put them all on top cuz it fits directly

and i use the slot enhancement on those 4 slots

[wintry ermine]

okay bro. thanks for the advise.

[arctic lagoon]

Hey yall should I refine the event weapon before I try to upgrade? And what do you guys recommend, inherit or necro

[dire oyster]

always necro weapon. but if you failed all 3 attempts, it might be better to not caraft reduction scrolls for it. since its 0 cuts

[arctic lagoon]

Sorry dumb question what about the 0 cuts would it make it hard? So do you think I should just inherit and work on another weapon to necro? And going back to refining. Sorry new player

[dire oyster]

0 cuts means you cannot sell it. you would be stuck with that weapon no matter what, why thats not preferred is because if you brick a weapon, like failing mastercraft 3 or more times, you cannot sell it off as fodder, to recoup some losses

back to refining, if you are trying to necro, you should always refine, since it gives 2% more success chance

[arctic lagoon]

Thank you. Ill hope i get lucky necoring than.

[dire oyster]

i hope you get lucky too

wanna see you in #msm-flex soon

[wintry ermine]

sorry another dumb question from newbie. why sell it? if its sold. we buy another weapon?

is someone out there will buy a weapon with 3/3 failed mastercraft?

[dire oyster]

cost vs reward. at 3/3 mastercraft you need to spend mesos to buy a fodder to craft mastercraft reduction scroll, then attempt necro again. depending on server prices and availability, its quite expensive.

it MIGHT be cheaper to start on another project rather than getting bogged down on this particular one.

[dire oyster]

depending on the SF on the gear, can be sold as fodder to craft reduction scrolls, if its a fodder, it doesnt matter how many mastercraft attempts it has since it will be consumed anyways.

[wintry ermine]

i see. thank you bro.

[plain patrol]

But if its an alt project and using event reduction?

Then best is ofc to not necro i guess

Just inherit?

Anyway necro 40 is still trash right we need necro 50 to do any substantial dmg?

[fast zealot]

Not true, n40 is fine

I'm capping with no issues with a necro 40 wep, its the last thing I'd try to exalt

[plain patrol]

Oh

Nice

[frank hemlock]

Gotta love your takes here, absolute entertainment

[plain patrol]

No i dont know thats why im asking

But it seems to be that case due to how n40 was portrayed for some of the other classes in general

So if it isnt the case then sure

[plain patrol]

Or more accurately how i observed things are being said more often then not

[frank hemlock]

You don't know because you're stuck playing altstory 🤣

[plain patrol]

You caught me

Anyway im still dabbling in low mythics & legendary and unique

😂

[plucky wind]

Altstory😂

[steep dew]

which hyper status newbie should looking for

[dire oyster]

#msm-game-help message

For fresh characters/accounts it's recommended to NOT focus on hyperstats first, come back to it when you have the mesos.

[foggy tundra]

Hello newbie here..for erel lvl100 grinding skill which is good?

[plain patrol]

Spear of lungh

@foggy tundra

You can do better if you want but im following someone elses advice to put the three skills together

The two charge skills are just idk what to do so i bundle them up together(braindead gang)

[foggy tundra]

thanks for info

[plain patrol]

The hyper 170 just use it when you can & try to keep the 150 skill active

[delicate fox]

What are BiS gear? Is it just crit damage or crit rate wherever possible? How important is it for f2p seeing as how unique emblems for these are especially expensive?

[frank hemlock]

Emblem armors are essential

You can buy cheap ones with BA first but eventually you'll need to buy some with CD

So for weapon, I always recommend BA emblem so you can get it cheaper and buy CD emblems later

BiS hat and gloves only

Muspell Hat and Bloody/Agares Gloves

They give CD

[delicate fox]

Thanks. I guess I’ll keep saving. I’ll have enough someday lol

[plain patrol]

Am.i the only one using crit atk

And crit rate jewels

XD

Like eclectic glove agares hat eclectic overall eclectic shoes

[dull marten]

I’m using crit rate jewels

Cuz u no necro

[plain patrol]

Oh

[plucky wind]

Ho

[tired needle]

Essential for maybe bosses after lotus but I can solo lotus with 0 emblems, not even on my wep ✌️ 3mins+ left btw in the runs

[tired needle]

You can get by without emblems, I'm not saying don't get them but they're not as meta as they used to tbh. I would invest in a emblem weapon but other then that you can get damage from so many other sources then emblem gear that I would say they're not as important no more as they used too

[plain patrol]

I would say that an equipment is a frame & an emblem is a slot while the stats are the cores

[mint pine]

Did the changes make us need to change our hyper stats? I went with

1 lugh reinforce
1 lugh extra strike
1 lugh boss rush
1 fury roan reinforce duration
1 sting roan reinforce duration

[frank hemlock]

sure I am not saying you cant solo bosses with emblem, im just answering his question that eventually you will want emblem armors

[dire oyster]

no changes to erel, in fact we just got 10-15% dmg increase across our core skills, so nah, nothing changed

[mint pine]

Thank you. I can throw away that mail thing.

[true perch]

Anyone will it turn to a normal cuttable necro/inherit weapon after I upgrade the burning gram?

[tired needle]

Nope

0 cuts

[mint pine]

I necro mine. Easy good luck.

[foggy tundra]

Hi wanna ask for F2P Hyperstat which i should focus

[tired needle]

Page 1:

• Final DMG
• P/M DMG
• MAX DMG
• Additional DMG

Page 2:

• Exp % increase
• Pexp % increase
• Buff duration
• Fever duration

[deft briar]

And still active

[acoustic wraith]

S> Lv 30 Tradable CD Necro Gram .
Taking offers.

SOLD

[dire oyster]

lv 30 tho...

[dire oyster]

by the way

stay safe

[acoustic wraith]

still a good option to have for exp set, or if you missed the Erel event,

[acoustic wraith]

Good reminder

[plucky wind]

Which node is the best if I only have one slot left

[dire oyster]

Not equipping all V skills is criminal

[rain mist]

Erel feels squishy compared to other warriors

[deft briar]

At least not so bad like blaster which have lackluster skills

[plain patrol]

How is erel squishy

Its better than aran

[calm olive]

aran catching strays

[grizzled pawn]

Justified tbh

[minor cradle]

Wym

[arctic lagoon]

Ahy I did it…..

[deft briar]

Wow on the left side, funded gear except for zak belt idk why use zak belt

[frank hemlock]

Nice, grats! Did you use any scrolls?

[arctic lagoon]

I dont have a better belt 😂😂

[arctic lagoon]

2/3 failed attempts. I was like f it 2%. Wasnt expecting to succeed lol

[arctic lagoon]

Anyone know which skill node should I max out first?

[dire oyster]

V3 burst

[main horizon]

Anyone got erel boss and training skill wheel??

Presets too

[mint pine]

Curious if anyone uses this for training? I’m currently level 217

[frank hemlock]

thats a boss bind move

but it helps in traveling tjhe map while AB

so i just use same skill wheel

but no need for node imo

its a utility skill not a damage one

[worn grotto]

This is currently me

Is it good?

[frank hemlock]

You wanna max your Vskills eventually with V3 burst first

[worn grotto]

I’m trying but the setup is good?

[frank hemlock]

Good in terms of what? "Good" would mean everything maxed with all the C-skills like Goddess, Impenetrable skin etc equipped, all the Decent Skills which you have none

It's good at whatever level you're at now but you always need to work on it

Not much point telling you this since you don't have enough slots

Even my main don't have enough slots for all of those skills

[worn grotto]

I see, what level is your erel?
It’s really expensive to open more slots and I’m trying to max my hyper page as well. 🙂‍↕️

[frank hemlock]

Not Erel, but basically what a "good" Vmatrix looks like

You'd want just 2 trinodes at 25+5 to save one slot and all the other things I said

My Erel is just an alt that I haven't worked much on but he's pretty strong considering the investment I put in

Is it your main? @worn grotto

[worn grotto]

Yup he is, thanks 🙏
I’ll try to max two trios

[dire oyster]

no because the down time on 2 of those skills are like 1min and 2 mins

[plucky wind]

My Erel is just an alt too until I upgrade gears to mythic

Pretty solid

[green glen]

Equip only 2 trios and add HS, weapon aura, impenetrable skin, or goddess's blessing to get passive stats

[main horizon]

share trianing and boss skillwheel?

[frank hemlock]

Mod pin this beautiful Vmatrix page please

[plucky wind]

What passive does those skills give

[dire oyster]

level 240 in 4 months? am i tripping?

[plucky wind]

That's very long

But prob got whale and connections

[normal folio]

Question: you can stack two max tri-nodes? I’m trying to understand why this picture shows the same skills just different order. Or is this pic saying to try and get “1” of two tri-node combos?

[plain patrol]

These two are the bist en slot i think

Best in slot*

[rocky ledge]

Yes you can stack tri-nodes. The two in the picture are two separate trinode combos and its BiS to max and equip both of those. There's no need to level up erels other trinodes outside of those two since the other skills are more utility than damage.

[normal folio]

Got it! I actually just found a chart online too that really helped to explain everything. So not only can you stack 2 tri-nodes(25 + 25), but you can also enhance the slot to plus 5 for both slots, for a total of +60 (25 + 5 for slot enhancement x 2) to the tri node skills.

[mint pine]

this is what i'm running right now:

any suggestion on changes? when i get to 220, i'll buy the next one. I kind of wanted to originally have all my trinodes on there but eh. Thoughts?

[mint pine]

Or maybe the other iframe we have. So I don’t need to always add it to the preset

[frank hemlock]

for me personally, not limited to Erel, I usually prefer Cskills buff 1st to Decent skills

I equip decent skills way later

equip Lethal Strike 4 node for bossing if you cant hit crit rate of 150%++

or if no Necro weapon basically

[plucky wind]

Where how you farm meso to pay off the nodes slot bills

[mint pine]

Last night I was in af170 and since I was on an all day I made over 200m

Maybe 320m. I remember seeeing 180 and then seeing 140 in the other session

I just buy AB especially on weekends. I also bought the 4200 min one out.

[mint pine]

So you are saying just do my trinodes? And be happy about it? I can do that.

[frank hemlock]

priority is always trinodes

get 2 perfect trinodes so you can just do 25+5

and save 1 slot

[mint pine]

k. ya my tri nodes are done. I put them all at the top. I was really surprised I didn't lose much cp, but i did notice my damage on ark was worse haha, the buff's aren't there but at the same time. I'm still getting carried so it doesn't matter to much.

[worn grotto]

what a preset you guys use to max Erel burst damage.

This is my v matrix, proud of it

[plucky wind]

Same as yours

[worn grotto]

Preset skills

[plucky wind]

Oh I usually preset all bossing non ab-able skills in one if you talking about presetting skills and not v matrix

[worn grotto]

I actually talk about v matrix, can you send a pic to show me

[plucky wind]

I m new to preseting v matrix so sorry I dun have

[mint pine]

Like this

Or should I swap some around?

[frank hemlock]

You don't need 4 slots of nodes, look at pinned

No point using the dash and boss bind nodes

They are utility skills

[mint pine]

so should i just go back to what i had before?

ya looks like i had it right the first time

ya i just put it back the way i had it, took off the other trinodes, my range went down lol xD

[grizzled pawn]

What did you replace them with?

Can consider LS4 & DS4 in those two slots for bossing

DS4 only useful for Arkarium & above btw

[dry rover]

.

[rain mist]

These my bossing nodes for rn

[frank hemlock]

Mods pin this beautiful page please

[main horizon]

.

[tranquil sapphire]

Is there recommended pet buffs?

[wintry ermine]

just got this node today. so hard to get it. btw. for now, is my node is okay?

one more. oof question. is there any other place to get water of lofe beside guild shop and cash shop?

[grizzled pawn]

Looks decent. I'd focus all the Matrix points into one node rather than spreading them out.

[grizzled pawn]

TS I think

[wintry ermine]

i see. which skill shoud i focus first for the matrix point?

[wintry ermine]

ouh. okay bro. thanks.

[grizzled pawn]

I'm not familiar with your situation & Erel in general, but I'd say to focus on either trio nodes or burst VSkill.

[frank hemlock]

max trinodes max v3 burst

[dire oyster]

Erel nodes are relatively cheaper to max, not as many to focus on. Give or take 1b in nodestones should get your trinodes and v3 to max

[frank hemlock]

true

they really designed it to be new player friendly

[loud thunder]

Is Archon erels boyfriend? On gamelore?

They seems to be in love

[ruby sleet]

What amor set for erel for f2p? And weapon newbies question just started

[plain patrol]

What does this mean

[grizzled pawn]

https://discord.com/channels/413046906638565395/1247282493762044075

Armour set does not matter until Ancient/Chaos rank

Weapon is Jaihin almost always

[ruby sleet]

Jaihin not the boss ATK?

[frank hemlock]

Jaihin for Crit Damage

[ruby sleet]

Thank you, more questions coming. If i Fuse my 15starred weap will the stars disappear? And will be the result random?

[frank hemlock]

you probably should read this FAQ and other new player guide

https://www.reddit.com/r/MapleStoryM/comments/1k15fbw/frequently_asked_questions_faqs_read_this_first/

https://www.reddit.com/r/MapleStoryM/comments/1ez8g8c/guide_ultimate_new_players_guide_birthed_from_6/

[fossil yacht]

it means hi give me the guide

[mint pine]

is there a hyper stat guide, not for training but bossing?

[mint pine]

There we go, found it. I remember seeing it before.

[subtle willow]

Hi guys sorry for this noob questions new players here.. currently I'm using the free unique weapon from event. Should I fuse it to legendary or rank up it? Which is better?

[frank hemlock]

@subtle willow read the guides above

[dawn solstice]

I goofed and wasn’t able to get the burning weapon to lvl 40 only level 38. Should I still try to get to ancient?

[unreal osprey]

Yes

You can upgrade 38-40 at ancient

[dawn solstice]

Ok, does that make it harder to upgrade in the long run or doesn’t matter

[unreal osprey]

I mean you start at 38 instead of 40

[frank hemlock]

it doesnt matter

[unreal osprey]

So you lose 1 chance

But if you’re lucky it doesn’t matter

[frank hemlock]

I think they remove the Burning status at Ancient

so you can use Exalt stones 1-5 from event shop

[unreal osprey]

Mythic 18

Is 50% now right

[dawn solstice]

Ok thanks everyone!

[frank hemlock]

yep

[tranquil sapphire]

How much af do i need to be able to do af30 without dying? I read somewhere that if you have 1.5x the af of the map the monsters hit you for 1 dmg but im at 90af and still die....

[frank hemlock]

Do you have mythic30 weapon and outfit

Unlocked all your Vskills

Erel Vskill is just map clear

[barren tusk]

1 damage is only true in PC Maple sadly.

[plain patrol]

I think you need at least legendary lv 25 pieces armor and a random mythic weapon if not try a bigger tier potion hp

And dont set at 50% try 70%

Af 30/60 shouldnt even pose an issue if you played the growth event

But in arma af 90 you do need at least some kind of mythic

So suggestion maybe dont go there

😅

Personally i dont

I stay in other af90 and 60/80

Cause my gear sucks

[frank hemlock]

🤔

AltStory player

[rustic gorge]

Hi i am new here, may i know what is the perfect trio skill for nodes?

[dire oyster]

https://discordapp.com/channels/413046906638565395/1329257176211918888/1329296887974727762
check the pinned comments as well for more info

[rustic gorge]

Thanks!

[snow yew]

guys for Hyper Stats, if I am Erel do I max out PHYS DMG % priority? its what increases my % the most right? even more than Crit damage %?

[grizzled pawn]

#msm-game-help message

[thin swan]

thanks yi long ma

[tranquil sapphire]

Am I the only that didn't understand that? For what i saw here this is the priority for erel:
Page 1:

• Final DMG
• P/M DMG
• MAX DMG
• Additional DMG

Page 2:

• Exp % increase
• Pexp % increase
• Buff duration
• Fever duration

[dull marten]

for Pexp

unless ur planning to join a party

just go EXP > buff duratiojn

also dependson what pets u have

[dire oyster]

page 2 only when you have the extra crystals & mesos to spend

[wintry ermine]

should i stay with this or change to electic armor?

just found this on the help section.

[dire oyster]

fuse it to Mythic

no point changing unless you're switching to an emblem gear.

getting to mythic and surviving in higher AF maps are more priority than changing to a non emblem gear of a different set

[dire oyster]

this info is 2 years out of date, take it with a grain of salt

[wintry ermine]

okay. thanks for the answer.

[brittle grove]

anyone know why with erel you can’t see the weapon but only when attacking? i’m just curious

[plain patrol]

Maybe it's a "soul weapon"?

Like materialized by the energy of light's repose

[brittle grove]

makes sense

[tranquil sapphire]

Is a yellow emblem any good? How do you guys increase the sf on the erel event burning weapon?

[dire oyster]

you cannot increase SF on burning weapon without burning SF scrolls. the event is over. you cannot do anything to the weapon now.

unless you refine the weapon to empress, then you can SF it

[tranquil sapphire]

How do you do that? Do i need to fuse to legendarys and make another mythic? Is the yellow emblem any good?

[dire oyster]

Refine with fire stones. Drop from Cygnus expedition.

[dire oyster]

I don't know what yellow emblem is. Does it have a name? What stat does the emblem give?

Maybe you can ask in #msm-game-help

[tranquil sapphire]

Magic attack

Thank you!

So all i need is like 40mil and i can sf the spear? Yay!

[wintry ermine]

already exalted to lvl40. did some research. they said refine empress first then proceed to mastercraft. im not really understand with that refine empress part.

[wintry ermine]

i think erel doesnt need magic attack. cd or ba is the best. phy atk is enough i think.

[grizzled pawn]

Refine Empress = Forge->Refine->Use red stones from clearing Cygnus Expedition

You need to understand the reason for doing so

Show us the part in the guide you're reading that you don't understand

[wintry ermine]

this one.

[grizzled pawn]

Ok. All clear now? Good luck with the Necro attempt!

[wintry ermine]

i planned to just inherit. necro seem expensive. so refine first before inherit is better that inherit without refine?

[grizzled pawn]

I wouldn't bother refining at Mythic rank if so.
Inherit attempts are 30% regardless of Refined or not.

It will not be too late to Refine later if you intend to Chaos Mastercraft.

In case you don’t know: Chaos comes after Ancient.
Both Inherit and Necro are Ancient ranks. Just different pathways.

[wintry ermine]

thank you bro. all clear now.

[tranquil sapphire]

Am i doing this right? Didn't find the perfect trio so im trying to do my best with what i have

[torn juniper]

Looks great bro

[south zenith]

whats the best emblem split for erel ? 5/3 or 4/4

[crisp eagle]

Anyone elses burst just cancel like 1 second in?

[grizzled pawn]

You're holding down the button properly?

[dire oyster]

You sure you have enough MP?

[crisp eagle]

Yes and yes, I'll press it down and then it would cancel and immediately just say skill on cooldown

Though i mainly play on the pc so I'm not sure if that's the issue

[grizzled pawn]

Yea sticky keys are a thing on PC. Especially if you have it on Shift

Try again on phone. If it persists, share a phone screen recording for us to analyse.

[torn juniper]

All cd

[tired needle]

Bruh..

[crisp eagle]

Do you guys go for the purple or blue jewels?

[upbeat ember]

yellow for exp, purple for boss attack

[torn juniper]

Wdym

Its always cd if u can afford it

[tired needle]

Sorry, I apparently never send my last message

[dire oyster]

heard some ppl saying diminishing return after 400%+ CD

at taht point go for BA

[tired needle]

@south zenith tagging you if you haven't gotten the answer yet. For most classes I would say aim for around 400% crit dmg and 200% boss damage base, just picking crit damage for everything will not benefit you to your fullest potential

[torn juniper]

Edduh has 700+ cd

Top 1 nw

[dire oyster]

right, good point. so does our friend here want to be top1 in their job?

[torn juniper]

Erm but if he’s asking for BIS then ideally he should follow Edduh

Look, CD will always be most wanted. BA can be compensated by pots, souls and accessories emblem

No cd = no cap

BA helps raise min line but if u cant cap, whats the point

[dire oyster]

does our friend have N40 already?

[torn juniper]

He should, otherwise how can he reach further content in game

But regardless, i dont think thats relevant tbh

[dire oyster]

not saying you're wrong. im just curious where our friend is at this point in time.

[tired needle]

You're comparing a top player to a regular player, Edduh has such high cap that he prob had to optimise his gear for his class which from what I think nw also benefits a whole lot from p att and % p att in for top nw's

But yeah, maybe after having base 200% boss and 400% crit dmg you can keep picking crit dmg but that would be different for every class on what they would benefit most from after that point to be honest

That's why split's are always different for every class or what your specific character needs

[hearty ledge]

which v skill should i prioritize on maxing next after i max my burst skill?

[tired needle]

https://youtu.be/IMdoGbsOwEk?feature=shared < Here's to add to my point, #1 Shadower in NA Inosys with 3 BA emblems on his gear, it all depends whatever your class needs at the top bro, not every class needs all % crit dmg emblems

So saying everyone should follow Edduh's example in gear because his way is 'BIS' is just not true

[languid oyster]

what gear should i be lookin for with? What's BiS. I'm f2p so don't know if there's a budget "BiS"?

I'm almost lvl 140 for context so just curious what i should be looking out for if i stumble upon the gear.

[dire oyster]

its too early for you to be looking to BiS gears, main target is to hit level 200 first, and afterwards you'll be farming for meso to buy emblem gears

[languid oyster]

Tried finding suggested hyper stats. Found the passive guide which I needed but can’t find definitive suggestion for the hyper stats section. I currently have 2 stats to use… thx

[grizzled pawn]

Check pinned on help channel:
#msm-game-help message

[normal folio]

I’m planning on putting a Google sheet or website up to get basic class info that’s up to date and easier to find.

Would you mind helping me put the following together for this class?

1. Perfect Trio Nodes(Primary/Secondary)
2. Hyper Passive Skills
3. Auto Battle Skill Setup
4. Boss Battle Skill Setup

[mint pine]

So what skills do I do next? My secondary trinodes are done.

[torn juniper]

Pinned message

[torn juniper]

Maple blessing

[mint pine]

Thank you. Will do.

[vast quail]

is cadena still a good farmer?

[torn juniper]

Nope

Abomination

[mighty yew]

Hows erel? I kinda wanna main him seeing his skills his kit is simple like ohantom just holding one skill lvl simple

[dire oyster]

great farmer, great mobility, alright bossing. overall insanely easy to use, also cheap to max nodes. if you don't have a main, sure you can choose him.

think of a easier paladin, one with not so much buffs and support abilities.

[mighty yew]

Sweet im tired of pally + i rlly like erels minion sucks someone took the emblem wep i wanted in trade shop 😭

[fossil yacht]

1. good bossing mule/alt due to the blink skill good for lotus and teleporting to boss
2. easy 1 button class
3. 2min burst boring but have iframe when v3
4. mobility kind of crap since no dash skill with iframe
5. his skill reach is quite far distance not too bad
6. hope they buff him better in future

[solid glen]

I just hit 215 and I thought about adding a 3rd perfect trio to boost some main attacks

[mint pine]

Is it worth doing blink next? Does it increase the time? Blink is on the next page.

[tired needle]

All decent skills will only give you more % p att, 0.4% per level to be exact

You could get it up with a couple levels since it's easy to level at first, although wouldn't recommend spending all your shards on 1 decent skill to level up

[mint pine]

Oh interesting. Blink levels like a decent skill. Hmm

Thank you

[tired needle]

Oh yeah my bad I forgot to specify that Blink gives the same stats as decent skills when you lvl up

[tired needle]

No problem 🙏

[ornate basin]

How to mix normal equipment and boss set?

[plain patrol]

Ya

[spiral jetty]

Hi @upbeat ember thanks for this, may I know where does the lv 170 Impulse of Chulainn skill go to ?

[upbeat ember]

Sorry what is that?

Can u screenshot?

Is that the iframe?

[spiral jetty]

its the lv 170 hyper skill

one sec

[upbeat ember]

Ok

Sry I don’t have erel on my new account

[spiral jetty]

here

ah yes the iframe

[upbeat ember]

Ohhh

No need put in ab

This one only for bossing

[spiral jetty]

ohhh

okok

thanks

[upbeat ember]

Np

[steel smelt]

I use that skill in AB cause saves a small amount of HP pots

[upbeat ember]

Hi brandon its been awhile, how have you been?

[steel smelt]

Hi arvin! I had to step away from the game, my dad was really sick and he passed away in may. Now that everything has somewhat settled i have time to play again. But other than all that i'm well. Yourself?

[upbeat ember]

Sorry for your dads passing, I hope everything is well for you. Im fine as well, welcome back.

[steel smelt]

Thanks mate

[rustic gorge]

hi may i know which Emblem is best for Erel? Crit Dmg or Boss Atk?

[steel smelt]

Crit Dmg

[fossil yacht]

gg gone from server?

[grizzled pawn]

Haha that's Arvin's style. Show up a few weeks for events & back to hibernation

Respectable

[fossil yacht]

good mental health management

[north niche]

Any erels out there able to solo ark without Necro weapon?

[earnest granite]

Hey everyone, is this a good set-up for AB?
Also what V skills/ buffs are better to level up first?

[tired needle]

Swap maple goddess blessing for decent holy symbol

[earnest granite]

Okay thanks!

[main horizon]

What’s Erel burst rotation?

[north niche]

Been wanting to ask this aswell.

[grizzled pawn]

Check pins

[plain patrol]

I thought erel just spam light of hughe

[crimson oak]

hey where i can find link skill guide?

[grizzled pawn]

#bot-commands message

[muted copper]

Dps page

Decent skills(hb,se) better to use over my max trio? Should I add si into this on my next opening? Or should I start pulling or swap in my 2nd trio set

The trio is for the off hand skills that aren’t used as frequently. So I’ve kept them back burner this whole time. Just thought I’d get an opinion on this

[upbeat ember]

yes decent is better

since erel only need one trio set which u have already maxed

2nd trio set is not needed but you can keep them for the future when 6th job is out

6th job hexa mastery requires maxed v matrix trios in order to use their upgraded version however we don't knoow which skills are getting the 6th job version besides the normal attacking skill for now

[muted copper]

The 2nd half of what you said went right over my head cuz I know absolutely nothing about 6th except that it’s coming haha I’m on the mega grind to 250 rn

But Ty for the advice!

[upbeat ember]

no worries

so basically 6th job has its own matrix system, just like 5th job

those 5th job trios will be carried on to 6th job but don't worry about it so much for now

[muted copper]

YouTube vid I can watch to help understand?

[upbeat ember]

sure

one sec

[muted copper]

Or just wait till it comes and absorb it then

[upbeat ember]

tbh i think its not an important information for now

since korean side has not gotten the full total update yet

[muted copper]

Sounds good! Think there’s anything we should stock up or prep on?

[upbeat ember]

Nope

You’re good

[austere lily]

Hi, does anyone have some tips on where to invest time and mesos into on my main? I’m doing all relevant dailies and dungeons to save up for armor/weapon crystals. Other than that i dont really know what i’m doing.. Any tips would be appreciated.

[carmine orchid]

Use the upcoming event to get your v skills to 25. Look at the pins for the perfect trio boost nodes (you only need 2 not 3 like you have). Necro wep should be main equipment focus. Then hyperstats and legion while slowly working on BA/CD emblems armors. I only have one ancient armor and can clear solo lotus. Equipment then become main priory once you are hitting dmg cap

[north niche]

Thoughts with the new buffs for Erel?

[true lion]

Decent buff on erel

@dry rover wat u think

[bronze rain]

you can work on legion & hyper stats if you have the time & $$$
legion helps so much! and for hyper stat if you can , buy the xtra page from shop and make it for ab’ing , meaning exp pexp buffs & what not
1st page would be for bossing ( fd / phydmg / max dmg / adi / ba ) !
you don’t need cr now that you have necro so you can reset the following and up the main stats !

[dry rover]

It’s meh

[bronze rain]

meh?? it’s more than decent.. no?

[upbeat ember]

Yes erel buff good

[dry rover]

It’s solid. I’m sad rhey change the iframe

Yet to be seen. If anything, the biggest one is to the hyper skill.

That’s gonna add a ton of line

[upbeat ember]

Means you guys need to add that to your trios

Since its going to be part of your dpm

[undone wing]

Yeah, you think it’s worth setting up new trios with Impulse of Chulainn now?

[dry rover]

Previously probably dont even use it

Now it’s 860 extra line

[true lion]

Yep now we need to use 4 trios

[rustic gorge]

Anyone can put up the perfect trios to include Impulse of Chulainn? 🥹

[north niche]

Doubled the iframe cool down which is a bit of a nerf?

[muted copper]

I mean… an 8 second iframe every minute is kinda insane haha

Not that I was complaining or anything but I get it

[undone wing]

Anyone swapping their hyper skills with these reset scrolls

[dry rover]

I’m looking for 2 min line count along with battle analysis results. Please let me know your best number!

[quick laurel]

I have the previous set up. With the changes I hear we are adding two additional trio’s if this is true, which do you recommend??

[muted copper]

2 new trios? Are you talking about the 2nd set for off skills?

[plain patrol]

I accidentally claimed them on one character thinking they reset only 1 point each scroll

[quick laurel]

This sounds correct.

It is both off skill and main skill trio. Give off skill: Impulse of Chulainn a bit of a boost while capping spears.

Still working on maxim

Once I level 5 the trio slots I’ll swap in for the trios on off skills or to get impulse chulainn to 60

That’s my setup after patch.

I use this for ab too just because idk what the difference is.

[mint pine]

does our dash still have an iframe?

[grizzled pawn]

Boss stun dash still has iframe yes

[rich fractal]

are there any vhilla videos from erel?

[tranquil sapphire]

Do you put hyper passives in sting of roan and fury of roan reinforce duration or enhance? I'm asking because the pin says reinforce duration but in the game there is like a little thumbs up next to enhance

[grizzled pawn]

The game also puts thumbs up next to dead servers

[upbeat ember]

Dont follow the game suggestions

Just look at pinned

Everything is there

[tranquil sapphire]

Thanks!

[storm arrow]

Is Erel a good bossing class?

[rich fractal]

sure

[raven oracle]

Whats the hyper stat prio

for erel?

[turbid stream]

where can i get good weapon? im currently using the free growth weapon.

[turbid stream]

may i ask what stats should i get from the linked skills? please help 🙂

[raw mural]

I did some final/physical dmg increase and some of the warrior classes for hp and boss atk/def. I’m also new though so idk if that was the right thing to prioritize.

[tranquil sapphire]

What do you guys think about these skill wheels? Bossing is 3 and ab is 2.

[raven oracle]

Kinda curious which v matrix i follow moonbeans video or the one in pins

[grizzled pawn]

Go to Rank, filter for Erel, check the top players' V-Matrix

[green glen]

Just max out all of your skills to lvl60

We have enough slots to have multiple trios for all skills

Moonbean is not up to date

[crimson oak]

Hey )
Aome one please can send hyper skill passive and prisets skills for bosses and farm? I think im doing something wrong

[crimson oak]

?🥲

[grizzled pawn]

You checked pinned messages already?

[crimson oak]

Yha

Nothing after the update job

[grizzled pawn]

I don't remember changing anything on my Erel after rebalance patch. There's a new skill that's it right

[crimson oak]

Wanna know only tbe passive hyper what to put points on and set skills

I just get to lvl 235 and the skill from red node idk where to put i reset the hyper passive by mistake and dont know what to do

@grizzled pawn can i send ures?

[grizzled pawn]

I'll check later

[crimson oak]

Ok thanks )

[grizzled pawn]

@crimson oak mine is exactly this. No change.

[crimson oak]

Ok thanks )

[vast quail]

Anyone knows if 6th job Erel is strong?

[green glen]

Not bad about 5700 line counts

[muted copper]

I feel stronk

[muted copper]

I would make 1 change. There was a change a few months back for your impulse skill reducing the cd and increasing its lines I believe, making it much more useful.

I added it to my main attack preset. And it does not interrupt the cycle and pops it every time it’s off cd.

[steel smelt]

[grizzled pawn]

rip

[north niche]

Question on hexa matrix

Any recommendations on what to prioritise for 6th job so I can get the best bang for the buck?

Skill options to activate

• spear skill
• guardian buff
• sentinel buff
• eternal light passive
• destruction of roan skill

[vestal sigil]

origin skill > mastery skill > hexa stats mdc,fd,ied

[north niche]

Sorry what you mean by origin

[grizzled pawn]

Origin is 6th job skill. Available at lv250

[small aspen]

Is Erel a good class?

[steel smelt]

S-tier class

3 iframes
Burst is busted
Massive AoE
Teleport skill can easily dodge lotus lasers in phase 1 making it really easy.

[south zenith]

Wait 3 iframes?

The lotus tip is acc really nice

[steel smelt]

Your burst skill is iframe, the weird circle skill iframe, and theres a vmatrix node iframe

I think you get 30seconds of iframe chaining

[small aspen]

is there an updated playstyle cause i see they changed a skill since i been gone

looks like the invincibility skill is separate from impulse

[steel smelt]

It is

Its like a weird circle skill now

I barely ever use chains now

The shield is the first iframe 10sec
The orange skill iframe 10sec
Burst is iframe also

[small aspen]

U can just add it to ur main preset apparently

[steel smelt]

Is it even worth doing

[small aspen]

Idk but it’s a very simple animation it would get off really quick

[muted copper]

I’ll share

Burst rotation is always: blue preset, pink preset, then v3 burst or origin skill. Then just attack with your basic attack preset (green)

Super easy

[tranquil sapphire]

When do you use the yellow presset? Is it before the boss enters and whenever it's available?

[muted copper]

Yellow preset is 2 iframes. So you tap it 1 time for a 10 second iframe

And again if you need another

[steel smelt]

Thats not a good preset to use

I would not preset your iframes so you can pay attention to cooldown times and more accurate use since its quite possible to accidentally click twice especially during bosses like arkarium or lotus

With arkariums new boss mechanic its better to seperate them so you can iframe between shatters and time your iframes better to complete it

[tranquil sapphire]

Is there a recommend legion setup for erel?

[green glen]

Bossing or farming?

Farming

Bossing

I was sloppy on placing some of the squares, but you can get the idea from mine.

Lmk if you have any questions

[raw mural]

Thank you! I was actually thinking about asking for this today too.

[tranquil sapphire]

Thank you!
For bossing is crt rate not important? Like you have some squares covered but not all of them. Phy atk increase is also not important?

[raw mural]

I think the crit rate was skipped because of fair trade with a necro weapon

[green glen]

Correct

[steel smelt]

Massive line count on fall

[raw mural]

I need to start off by saying I’m kind of a newer player and even newer to researching how to do things right in msm so sorry if this sounds silly. 😬
I didn’t always know what I was doing so I might’ve picked the wrong hyper passives but with fury - reinforce duration and sting - reinforce duration adding 10% final dmg for 10 sec, should you also do green before your big burst?

[muted copper]

Yes you can do green 1 or 2 times to proc everything then burst

[wanton solar]

Hi

[wanton solar]

How do u get that “fall of melon ability “

Merlin*

[raw mural]

You get it with 6th job

[frosty sigil]

Hexa stats mdc is main followed by fd and ied?

[vestal sigil]

Still doing some testing. But i heard if u cant hit ur cap best to have fd soul + hexa main stat fd

[frosty sigil]

Great. Thanks!

[vestal sigil]

any erel here unlocked enhanced vskills? is there a photo of how much % of dmg and duration it gives at lvl 1?

sentinel rise + eternal guardian is duration up and fd together

not sure whether its worth uping, i saw from paladin some unlocked echo with extra 3% dmg + 3.3sec duration at lvl 1

[muted copper]

The damage you get from that 3% is actually a lot so yes it’s worth

[rugged galleon]

after getting origin skill and mastery skill at lvl 1, which skill should i invest in next moving from here?

[raw mural]

In case anyone wanted to see what lvl 1 was. I’m saving up to unlock the fourth one.

[raw mural]

Did you unlock hexa stats yet?

[rugged galleon]

i dont think so. so far i have only gotten the Fall of Melin and HEXA spear of lugh only

[deft briar]

Do the final dmg enh applies to all passives or just to skill dmg

[vestal sigil]

Hexa skill if u have enough, go for the 2 origin skill that increases the duration

[vestal sigil]

@rugged galleon this one sentinel rise + eternal guardian

[north niche]

Eternal guardian doesn't increase duration..? Am I reading it incorrectly

[toxic solar]

does 11% FD better or 3.3% while buff better?

[muted copper]

Probably 11%FD because that’s always active for everything you do

[random snow]

what are the best trios?

[lone sparrow]

Cash/Credit Card/Money

[muted copper]

Top priority *

2nd non priority trio^

@random snow

[tranquil sapphire]

Does the skill revamp change the bossing/ab skill wheel/presets?

[raw mural]

I have something similar to the wheel that dreamz posted before. I just added the invincibility skill into the preset with the other two invincibility skills.

[tranquil sapphire]

There is a third invinc skill? Is it decent alchiba?

[raw mural]

Yup! It sounds like it only protects you from one hit but I guess it’s something? The healing one is probably nice for AB. Both of the new skills have the physical atk passive.

[north niche]

In hindsight, was it worth getting these skills to lvl 1 and then focus on origin lvl 10?

[raw mural]

Tbh I did a pretty bad job of checking the before and after dmg charts so I’m not really sure. I’m also kind of a noob and my guild pretty much carries me through the harder bosses.

I think with the long cooldown of origin, it would be beneficial to squeeze out a little more dmg from the v3 and v4? Getting those all to lvl 1 is pretty cheap in comparison to the total frags required to get origin to 10 imo.

In my last gloom run (a little over 2 minutes), my v3 and v4 combined for 3% less dmg than my origin but idk what I used while the eye was open.

[green glen]

Yes, do all level 1 and focus origin 10

[north niche]

Did you max your hexa stat first before focusing origin 10

[green glen]

yeah, 1. stats, 2. origin 3. mastery 4. lvl 1 on 4 bottom left. 5. origin 10

after that you can kinda balance it depending on your damage stats since origin is pricy

[north niche]

It's all pricey 😭

Origin level 10 is a game changer?

[raw mural]

Because of the ignore defense 😬

[north niche]

Just want to raise this as I think it's criminally underrated

The "Eternal Light Enhancement" mastery level 1 gives 11% final dmg which is huugggeeee

[tranquil sapphire]

Stats before origin or mastery? Mdc fd ied?

It's just it will take the longest I think because it needs 5 of the stuff you get only after collecting 1000 of the other stuff...

[raw mural]

Yes, MDC, FD, IED for stats.

This is what I did. I was just winging it so I don’t know if this is the most logical approach.

1. I started with stats because I was hitting my cap. I just went until I couldn’t hit cap anymore and I revisit stats whenever I start hitting cap again.
2. Lvl1 mastery
3. Lvl1 for everything in bottom left
4. Working on origin now

[reef quiver]

hyper passive skills? any reccomendations pls

[raw mural]

Hyper Passives

Bossing
Spear of Lugh - Reinforce (1)
Spear of Lugh - Extra Strike (2)
Spear of Lugh - Boss Rush (3)
Fury of Roan - Reinforce Duration (6)
Sting of Roan - Reinforce Duration (9)

*Stolen from Arvin Raj in the pinned messages

[tranquil sapphire]

Why is sting of roan - enhance and fury if roan enhance with a little thumb up next to them? Are the game recommendations just wrong?

[raw mural]

Tbh I just mindlessly followed the ones from the pinned message😅
The ones with the thumbs up don’t sound incredibly great but I could be wrong.

[north niche]

I think the recommendation in the game isn't always the best 👀

This pin message here is a good guide imo
#1329257176211918888 message

[soft spire]

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[tranquil sapphire]

What are all the locked hexa symbols for? Do they ever unlock?

[reef quiver]

what nodes shoud i prioritize enhancing?

[raw mural]

Perfect trios are in the bottom of the pinned messages

[lyric lodge]

Can anyone show me boss seting skill

[north niche]

#1329257176211918888 message

Should still be valid

[coral shadow]

This class a strong farmer ?

[north niche]

I would say pretty good. Decent AoE

[tranquil sapphire]

Holy...just unlocked stats. It increased my cp from 1.6m to 3.1m and that's with exp gear....

[raw mural]

Congrats! 🥳
Good luck rolling your hexa stats!

[rancid nebula]

Hi all. Need some advice. Can’t decide between hero or erel as main. Any advice? Less funding and still do good in bosses. Mostly solo play

[north niche]

I'm F2P and have been coping with solo play quite well with bosses.
Erel quite an basic char to play so it might be limited in that sense

[zealous glade]

both have their pros and cons. I can't fully judge for Hero yet until i get my hero to do some proper bossiing

but for Erel. its decently good

[upbeat ember]

i main hero

go play erel

burst is condensed thats the only reason you need

[nova pollen]

Erel's stuff also looks cooler / more varied, from what I can tell (haven't gotten a hero to 200)

[median plank]

Erel looks lit bro

[wanton solar]

I have an erel

He is very good

[median plank]

me looking for dps main

[tranquil sapphire]

Erel is good. He just doesn't have a teleport which is a bit annoying. There is blink but that only works after lvl 200 and if there is an enemy.

[nova pollen]

He also has his own blink with a 3 sec cd, blinks to the other side of the boss usually, like 2nd job skill I believe

[raw mural]

^ I do really like this for Damien and gloom

[tranquil sapphire]

Ahh...I have not used that one. I use the one that stuns the enemies. I might have to reconsider my skill wheel now

[nova pollen]

I put them both on the same preset, since I believe Erel can be played with the Type A wheel lol

[muted copper]

And @green glen after origin 10 have you picked what to work on next? Which boost node would be most beneficial? Or go for spear mastery?

[green glen]

I am doing Origin 10 - master 10 - the others 10

However, you should reflect your dmg charts when it comes to leveling hexa up

You might have arcane 70s 😅

[zealous glade]

he has his own blink bro...basically its his mobility for bossing too.

[split sedge]

Hey guys, in the PINS does it show what hyper stats to prioritize? I see one that says hyper passives but im not sure if thats the same as stats

[raw mural]

Final dmg -> physical dmg -> boss -> crit dmg

I did a little sprinkle of crit dmg before boss atk so I could get more kills in the 250+ maps because I’m weak 😩

[tranquil sapphire]

Probably im just a bad gamer but teleporting to a boss to get beat up doesn't really help me survive. Also I'm a bit sick of jumping to collect the spoils after a boss dies. I like fast movement that doesn't force me to go to an enemy or requires one to use...

[nova pollen]

I can suggest pathfinder, they have a dash with 5 charges and a short cd, dynamic skill usage, and a short cd brief iframe that's very skill expressive

[tranquil sapphire]

Nah I'm an erel main. I'll get good eventually (I hope). also no way am I getting another character to 250 this decade without a dedicated burning event

[west robin]

for weapon emblem need to reroll if get physical dmg?

[raw mural]

If it’s physical dmg on your secondary, that’s fine. If it’s physical atk on your gram, you’ll need to eventually reroll.

For your gram, you’ll still get the extra 30% atk just for having an emblem. I’ve seen people who were pretty strong without bis emblem but eventually you should change it.

[silent gyro]

Hello is the guide in pin still relevant? I'm a returning player

[nova pollen]

Yea, job is still brand new, nothing's changed

[silent gyro]

Thanks! Just checking

[raw mural]

Welcome back! 🥳

[idle umbra]

What is best hyper passive skill?

[idle umbra]

12369 ?