#Battle Mage

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unborn vale
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Max**

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Ipad problems

cosmic ice
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isee

unborn vale
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Dont know why it is that way though

cosmic ice
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can you adjust resolution ? obviously thats on the pc client, but anything replacing that ?

unborn vale
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Oo don’t ever know if that is there

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Or i never looked

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Oh yea not there

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Got excited for a momeny

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😂

cosmic ice
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lol sorry

dire holly
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Switch your stats around

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Isn’t lvl 8 alt stat more mdc than your main stat?

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Should be like 67.5m mdc or something

dire holly
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peepopoggies what mdc?

sonic plank
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I finally did it sennastare

unborn vale
cosmic ice
sharp sable
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Bro how do you see the boss or yourself with animations at 100% risitascry risitascry

sharp sable
sharp sable
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Purple when u see the 1-2 purple butterflies

unborn vale
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I think i’ve got p1 sorted at least..

sharp sable
unborn vale
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Lolol no

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I think it was just over 2min

sharp sable
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Oooo I think just under 2 minutes is the cutoff BojjiDeadlyIntent

unborn vale
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Oh dam

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I need the second v1 burst etc to get it done

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Ill try again with boss rush

dire holly
unborn vale
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From capping, especially when it’s FB only

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🤣

unborn vale
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Trying to decide if i start levelling Origin or condemnation

cosmic ice
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You really far off 😅
You probably need to do some major changes like re-do hyper stat and remove mdc & extra damage lines into boss/CD
Change mdc souls and HP lines to m.a/d

cosmic ice
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I obviously cappin rn but as soon as I get a better hexa stat I would have to do some changes

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Also next week I should be getting will book (via quest cuz rng and me ain't friends) and source of suffering, so I most likely will lose some mdc 🤭

unborn vale
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Hyper stats probably my next change out of mdc

cosmic ice
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i guess thats should be leveled instand of either weakening / darkaura ?
does the -15% def ignore even does anything nowdays?

cosmic ice
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legit brute forced that with overkill stats 😤

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i got hit by that for example

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got hit by these strings as well

unborn vale
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Dam bro you are in the trenches with that!

sharp sable
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holy u soloing clucid yet?

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with 270m

unborn vale
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Very close though

sharp sable
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cleansing is da worst

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how long is bam origin?

unborn vale
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Getting the 40s full v1 in is tough (maybe not even possible)

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But i was getting like every mini game 🤣

cosmic ice
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Managed to close the cap damage gap?

unborn vale
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Hitting 206m with 270 cap and 44% ied

cosmic ice
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Yeah seems good I'm doing 165m with 215ish cap and 42.5%ied on hvhila

Prob missing few m's

unborn vale
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I rr’d my mdc hypers to CD

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And… changed my weapon soul but im stuck with 19% CD currently

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Seems to have made a good boost, saving up to level origin now

sharp sable
unborn vale
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Yea need to figure something out

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Burned a lot of PE so im recovering 🤣

cosmic ice
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@unborn vale randomly went across you Clucid attempt on yt, you dont have DG on your skills wheel? you play well without it, but i promise that 30sec cd mini iframe is such a game changer somtimes

unborn vale
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I decided to wait for next week patch before i change anything now 😅

cosmic ice
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i have it as a seprate skills so i can have eternal&shield as presets and have that 30sec iframe ready on demend so i dont have to waste big iframes on nonsense

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on lucid i would use it for the timer bomb&jumping over goloms

unborn vale
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I use it in lucid for the second bomb and in p2

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I’ve done better since but not quite clearing (cleansing problems)

cosmic ice
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these 3 skills are such a waste if time lol
wish they revert the DS change and let us deal damage and charge com while telecasting as it originally used to be

unborn vale
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Hopefully the mastery improves it a lot in future

summer epoch
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guys,does battlemage ok to main for f2p new player?

cosmic ice
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bishop/shade will let you to squeeze into bossing without meeting the dps requirements (f2p way of thinking) , bam isnt in that spot

summer epoch
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Ah so if f2p i cant deal damage using battle mage? What about paladin? Does it same like bishop/shade for bossing?

cosmic ice
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as f2p you wont be able to catch up to actual bosses for atleast a year , best advice i would say take w.e the event is giving you and roll with it. so go with iel.

viral gyro
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Kinesis dk if u count

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Demon slayer and avenger no changes , one is early game link skill slave another is really good as a class in early game

cold ether
dire holly
summer epoch
viral gyro
viral gyro
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So many slots now with new presets

viral gyro
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@dire gazelle @dire holly what trio you guys use

unborn vale
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Battle burst not really needed but they are the trios

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Anyone else done chaos lucid solo yet? Struggling to keep altar charges in p2 when burst is off

cosmic ice
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im far off 🫠 i need 2 full burst (3min) to clear p1

unborn vale
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It’s a tough one for sure!

cosmic ice
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yeah/

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im chillin now on the main, shifting funds to my muels better gains there

unborn vale
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I can clear p1 in roughly 1min45

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8mins in p2 still not enough feelsmushroomman

unborn vale
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Things looking good for a real try…

dire gazelle
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The lower skills are not even in wheel

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But i have nothing to fill the slots so

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😂

cosmic ice
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Wdym nothing to fill? You missing all common and decent skills, ds4 at this point you waste more resources leveling the other random trios than gaining 😬

dire gazelle
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Using only opened nodes

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Im.not wasting nothing

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🤣

cosmic ice
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Ok.

unborn vale
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No decent skills F6 😱😮

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Big buff coming your way 🥳

dire gazelle
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Oh

cosmic ice
# unborn vale

Time left and stats you currently have ?
I felt like I'm around 20% off from clearing

unborn vale
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Haha

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Clear p1 in 1min20 now

unborn vale
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Unbuff stats

cosmic ice
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Lol exactly 20% over me mdc wise 🤭

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Early gartz for the real run

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Which jewel set you decided running with ?
I'm using SS m.damage for a while now

unborn vale
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I didnt have that in the practice run though, and was missing guild campfire, so a bit extra dmg to use

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It was as perfect a run as i can do 🤣

frigid yoke
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If boost nodes are maxed, how important is maxing v skills? I think I read above that prio is V3 > V4 > V1&2

dire holly
unborn vale
sonic plank
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I feel like after the update, they added lag to finishing blows. Now I have to wait for the animation to finish before casting other skills

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Before, I could cast instantly

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Is it just me? catsmudge

cosmic ice
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havent noticed smthing diffrent , but you can use the charge to minimize the wait if you need to dodge smthing

unborn vale
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Sorry restore I didn’t record

dire holly
unborn vale
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Timed well with burst and origin right at the end

dire holly
unborn vale
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Under a minute is very sexy

unborn vale
dire holly
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Sometimes I stand on the right one and it doesn’t charge so does it need a certain amount of dps before it can be charged?

unborn vale
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The top left one is the key to try and hit every 20s, so its a lot of clock watching feelsmushroomman

dire holly
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Oh only 4 total?

unborn vale
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(If you get too many purple butterflies… it ‘speeds up’ the mini game so that can mess you up too

unborn vale
dire holly
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Hmm so then we probably want to clear like every 2 mini games?

unborn vale
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Yea basically, its really annoying 🤣

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Dont mind doing the one altar but 2 is pain

dire holly
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Ok that’s good knowledge to have because I think I’ve been trying to cleanse them every chance I get lol

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I should be able to clear tonight with a bit more practice, but I’m going to need boss rush lol

unborn vale
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Yea once you get in the rhythm its alright

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I check the clock when i enter and try to hit every 20s (then clear purple when i notice a lot of them)

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**also same after a minigame, check the time and aim for another 20s cleanse on left altar etc

dire holly
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1 minute 20 seconds left with 5% battery

unborn vale
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Congrats! Easy clear 🥳

dire holly
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Timing our burst is tricky. Sometimes I use it right as the mini game is about to start

unborn vale
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Must be nice to have a DK type burst thats over quickly

dire holly
unborn vale
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Yea good idea

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The stun is key for us to get the charges it seems

dire holly
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Definitely

cosmic ice
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Who would've thought we will have such a decent mobing at 2026

unborn vale
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Its epic isnt it

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Speed aura and lightnings

sonic plank
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What’s the min mdc req for CLucid solo?

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I’m sitting at 220M kittystare

dire holly
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I was able to clear cLucid solo in about 8:40 minutes with 315m mdc

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Big thing is that if you can clear p1 with one burst and one origin you should be good!

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According to others, you ideally want to clear p1 in under 2 minutes.

sonic plank
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Okie

unborn vale
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I’m on 275m and clear just in 9min feelsmushroomman

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Lots of practice needed for timing of skills and altars!

unborn vale
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🤣

sonic plank
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Still a long way to go for medeadinside

unborn vale
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Honestly finishing blow is absolutely terrible

unborn vale
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I feel the bam power

sonic plank
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I’m still hitting the dmg cap with just a 40 Abso wep pepelul

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In contrast, my Iel burst rotation is a mess

unborn vale
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Yes we are in a good place for sure!

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The buff preset was a nice addition too to speed up our attack on burst

cosmic ice
cosmic ice
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thats my 1min

unborn vale
cosmic ice
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actually i might be closer than i thought need to learn when to use the chargers tho

dire holly
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How many deaths?

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Problem with solo is that you’re only allowed 3 deaths so managing the butterflies is very important

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They say that you should aim to cleanse the left side every 20 or so seconds

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And the right side every 90 or so, or when you cannot tolerate them any longer. The right side is also limited to like 3-4 uses from what I’m told

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Also in p2 if you cannot cleanse the left side in a timely manner you’re going to go into the mini game more often which isn’t ideal for dps

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So timing your burst is key to being able to deal dmg as well as generating the dps needed to be allowed to cleanse the left side (left side build charges based on dps)

cosmic ice
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Does bind delay / stop a mini game from happening? Or she can get immunity whole binded

unborn vale
cosmic ice
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In a way it's possible to origin bind and Erda bind right after or it's instant mini game as soon as the bind is over

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Tried it on that 1 attempt I had and kinda failed it 🤭 lost some of the origin hits

unborn vale
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It feels pretty quick doesn’t it

outer crane
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👀

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What hyper skill do you guys choose after V skill showed up

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I gave up 3 auras, instead I put 1 3 7 8 9

unborn vale
outer crane
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Nice

dire holly
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🤔

unborn vale
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Its only extra 5% now isnt it?

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The shield and finishing blow crits seem more useful for me

dire holly
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It’s also mag dmg compared to def reduction so one is slightly more valuable than the other

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On paper, the dmg difference is probably comparable

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Alternatively, wouldn’t going 1, 2, 3, 7, and 8 make more sense?

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Our fb is lacking damage so getting an extra 20% cd, despite having diminishing returns (the calculations might be different but I’m not sure), may just be better than 10% mag on everything (assuming you cap on most other skills)

unborn vale
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I need to look at this again then

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I don’t know cat_confuse

dire holly
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Yea I don’t know either lol

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Just thought I’d throw out my thoughts

unborn vale
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Maybe need to ask the bam super whale

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Mad Jamie

dire holly
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Yea he/she came out of no where

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They in my server

unborn vale
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Haha

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Insaw the youtube vids its nice to see a maxed out bam

dire holly
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For sure

unborn vale
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Maybe they not here

dire holly
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He/she posted in the uhh

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Cwill event page

unborn vale
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I’ll dm !

cosmic ice
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i dont think weakenng does anything to nowdays bosses

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its regular def, like for sf maps

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should be relativly "easy" to check, go to mulung , and toggle yellow and pink auras if you hit the same its useless

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^FB attacks only

sharp sable
# unborn vale Its only extra 5% now isnt it?

From a mathematical perspective I still think weakening is better, due to diminishing returns on overinflated stats.

Ex. Let's say you have 500% CD and 500% BA and 100% MDMG. If you were choosing between +10% CD/BA/MDMG, choosing +10% MDMG will increase your overall damage by a lot more.

This is further exacerbated when the stat is rare (ex. the weakness hyper). Think of how effective the def ignore stat was when it first came out. Same logic applies here. Even more effective in solo settings since in party settings more classes also have enemy defense reduction abilities.

Not to mention that 20% CD ain't that much especially when final blow is only like 3% of total damage risitascry (not counting aura scythe). Whereas the enemy defense reduction hyper would increase all other abilities' damage as well as finishing blow/aura scythe (including origin and other vskills).

This is just my theory. As with everything you should always test to confirm KEKW

cosmic ice
unborn vale
sharp sable
sharp sable
unborn vale
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Your point super valid i hadn’t really looked into it

sharp sable
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If @cosmic ice's screenshots are the difference then we have our answer already KEKW

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150b vs 157b total damage

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And that's without v skills, origin only

unborn vale
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Yea big difference even there

sharp sable
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Jk he used an extra sweeping staff in the 2nd screenshot

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But you can see origin alone 15b vs 16.1b

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Wait I'm lost

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Need more controlled tests KEKW

unborn vale
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The max and avg damages higher though

sharp sable
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Someone test with vskills too KEKW

cosmic ice
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lol got a mad phonecall while trying to share the results 😂

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so obviusly the lower damage one is with yellow aura.
i dont have the extra point in hyper on pink

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stats on the dummy

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with purple aura (boss) i do have hyper point in it

sharp sable
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Need someone to sacrifice 100 crystals to test for us LMAO

cosmic ice
sharp sable
cosmic ice
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tested with yellow (since it has no stats that effect damage output) , weakinng and boss

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so weakening and boss had the same result on the dot, but i do have the hyper on boss aura while 0 on weakening

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so superisingly weakining might be useful

sharp sable
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Yes exactly

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We're just debating between the FB 20% CD hyper vs the extra -5% weakening hyper

cosmic ice
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well,

sharp sable
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Especially when you die and lucid gets that +100% pdmg/mdmg buff risitascry

cosmic ice
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you have over 600% cd base that 20% is not even 3% of that overall cd.. i would assume it will be very minimal.
try using a cd% buff and mimic the change

cosmic ice
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3rd attempt (2nd after actually reading what each trumpet does) might even be possible if i learn how to min.max ? 231m mdc

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ofc theres a whole p3 ahead

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1 death was completly random instant death in the butterfly mini game, the other one was while i was taking SS lol

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the bad mechanics makes me lose so much dps... my vhila 40sec ori burst is like 2.8T ... 2nd ori i done 1.5T 😂 that burst alone will have been the clear diff

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@unborn vale will be awesome if you could record you next solo run so i could take some notes

unborn vale
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Hopefully i can get a clean clear, my one the other day was a mess 🤣

cosmic ice
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lv.10 origin makes it also the hardest hitting skill cap wise

dire holly
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It makes clearing cLucid p1 much much easier

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I can clear p1 in about 25-30 seconds solo but now I run with a group

sonic plank
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@outer crane kittystare

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Whats your hyper skills setup?

outer crane
outer crane
cosmic ice
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Lol I wish we could have cross region bossings...
Imagine a party of the top 10 battlemages...
100/120 sec party iframe cycles , 10 blink fly + dg iframe +10 sec eternal iframe = 100% invincibility 🤭

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No skill required for darknell/BM

unborn vale
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Permanent iframe

cosmic ice
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meanwhile i cant even get a multi hvhila clear 🤭

outer crane
dire holly
outer crane
dire holly
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I do, however, still think that weakening aura hyper, despite it only being 5%, is better for group content compared to 10% mdmg just for us only

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Off burst dps is a problem so that 5% may be better overall for a group, but solo play the 10% mdmg will be better

sonic plank
cosmic ice
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For the mastery skills, any added skill damage increase on lv10?
If not I think I'll just start adding to alter if it's the same +3% for all levels

unborn vale
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I was thinking i need to level v1 next as thats my lowest avg damage of the 4 v skills

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Re doing my stats first

cosmic ice
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it might be the lowest, but you should remember its being used while you maxed buffed and nearly half is timied with DS4.
and v2 has 100% up time with similar damage %'s to the other skills

atleast these are my conclusions after going through my BA looking at min,max and avg damage of skill

but com & DG are by far weaker than all vmatrix skills so i immideatly dropped 5 levels into it since its a no brainer lol

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lv 6>7 requires 45 frags so i thought 1% FD on v2 might be a decent vlaue for the 30frags requirement for lv 1>2

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Hvhila ba

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i also dont understand the random 1-100M lines i get on some of the vskills like whats up with that
iwas sure it was somkind of a bug but its consistent for few months now

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cuz there no chance i hit min.damage of 94M with FB but done few lines of 59M with V1 activited ...

cosmic ice
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cleard practrice 🥳

unborn vale
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Nice!

rose ibex
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Hey, I main bishop, I really love our v4 burst, does bam have something similar? Looking for a mage to transfer my old gear to

unborn vale
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Next best is our v3 which is a 20s duration summon

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But over 40-60s on a stationary boss i think we put out pretty good dps now

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@dire holly @cosmic ice what you two doing with hexa?
I’ve got origin 10 and mastery 5, now saving to try (again) on stat page 2…

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V1 doesnt cap for me at the moment though so think that may need some help soon

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Terrible lucid run but my scores on here for ref

cosmic ice
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i went back gambling to get 125m mdc from hexa stat. being shafted so far, but it will happen sooner or later

cosmic ice
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mdc is too low to have fun 😅 (ignore the ied, ds4 proced while i ab)

unborn vale
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I needed 1 hit from last 2 and didnt get it

unborn vale
cosmic ice
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low mdc perks ya

unborn vale
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My max seems to be like 14m below for some reason - maybe needs that fd bump

cosmic ice
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im also still having backlashes from the inherit life

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stoped counting, every single item was and still is over 20 chaos scroll resets
at this point its a matter of principal rather than price worthiness lol

unborn vale
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2 arcane though nice!

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Im 13 fails down on my outfit

cosmic ice
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AbsoLab Mage Suit [Chaos] - Attempts: 19 Failed: 18, Success: 1
90days, pretty sure its 1/22

all with scrolls 3-5% 's 🥹 overall im around x2.5 tries above averge on all my gear

but ayyy the automation on the ticket system said that all odds applied normally even tho we talking over 300 mastercraft attempts account wise with single didget of passes + extra odds from scrolls
so who am i to judge 🫥

unborn vale
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I need to figure out best way to get the reduce scrolls

dire holly
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Or maybe v2 since it’s always up

unborn vale
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But v1 makes sense based on my stats

cosmic ice
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tbh thought it will be harder mech wise with my ping 5 practices over all with 2 clears and a real run 1/1

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now... how far am i from cwill

unborn vale
cosmic ice
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changed my prrire weapon 1.6m shoulder+cape 180kx2 mdc souls to
ark 19%fd 3.8x2 boss on cape&shoulder

results look hella nice

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hvhila dying on 2nd origin 4:30min run now compared to 5-close to 6min run earlier

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would be awesome when i get some more mesos for more soul effects and rerolls

unborn vale
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Oof nice! Feels definitely worth the FD boost compared to (now) relatively low mdc gains

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19% awesome too

sonic sundial
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Hi guys! Im looking to comeback to the game and I have a 211 BaM. Is the class still viable to use as main?

unborn vale
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More than ever before

sonic sundial
cosmic ice
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maybe this is the one ?🥹

unborn vale
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Ooo 1 in 5 !!

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Hoping for you

dawn python
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Gosh damn. So lucky. Really good outcome.

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All three of my chars ended up with about 90m cap. Bah

cosmic ice
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if you have 3 chars that actully needs the 90>120 cap thats a pretty good spot ngl

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my 2nd main has lv 9 sub 17/20 and tbh its no where close to actully needing it

dawn python
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I didnt say I was capping on any of my chars. Just that hexa stat was probably the easiest/cheapest source of cap. Wanted to end with at least a sub 10. Since rest of my gears are complete blah besides a necro weapon.

unborn vale
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What are you guys doing on hexa?

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After originally to 10.. I’ve got mastery to 5 and doing v1 to 10 as it doesn’t cap always (lower max dmg but maybe as no ied in the skill..)

cosmic ice
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I'm at 10 ori , 9 mastery 4 v1 2v2
Upgrading v1 now

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But the hexa mastery at msm is so underwhelming , I I think even at lvl 30 it won't help us cap with it 🤭

unborn vale
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Yea seems like the way forward doesn’t it

unborn vale
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I wish v1 boost added duration

cosmic ice
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That's what I thought, def if it had a boost at 5 multipliers like in PC version, seems like there are none so I moved to v1 to be more efficient frag cost wise

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I'll rethink what I'm doing after v1 is lv10 (these do have bonuses at 10-20-30)
Need to see how the BA looks like after that

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But most likely it will be v2 to atleast lvl 5 or 6 before going back to mastery

unborn vale
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Yes very true

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Mastery may help our off burst damage a tiny bit

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Until we get FB mastery

cosmic ice
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i guess we will get mastery 2 with hexa stat 2 together will defiantly be a game changer

unborn vale
cosmic ice
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All I know is based on PC.
In PC it's the same you just can't have the same exact main stat for the hexa stats 1 & 2

dire holly
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Not sure what I’m gonna do after

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Need to check dmg charts

unborn vale
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V2/3/4 all cap quite good but v2 definitely next in line like you

grim ermine
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whats the difference between dark aura and weakening aura? dark aura gives 10% dmg and weakening remove 10% def

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can use whatever?

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for bossing

unborn vale
sonic plank
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BaM is in NA Scania’s first Black Mage clear

limpid talon
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for v skills should aura scythe be maxed first and then abyssal lightning ? and then the other 2

unborn vale
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Altars are down all the time so the boost in damage is great

Levelling lightning makes sure its on the same cooldown as aura scythe! And its very strong now

limpid talon
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ty its much appreciated

unborn vale
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Do you guys see similar battle analysis in Hilla?

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And other bosses..

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Really low min damage

cosmic ice
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Had it for a while for some specific skills but not like that

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Your avg is also low looks like no fair trade in this case

unborn vale
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Not sure what they are from feelsmushroomman

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This is vhilla

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Also second Q, do you guys hit the buffs before origin? Or origin and then burst buffs

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V1 etc

cosmic ice
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If you can cap v3 and origin w.o buffs

  1. Damn you got alot of stats gg

  2. That's some next level min.maxin

  3. It's even harder to time it cuz it will be like 48 sec of burst , 30/40 sec is already hard enough

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For bosses like vhila it will be good , any other boss I'm not sure about it, unless you will origin completely separately from the normal 2mon burst , missing some of the stin value

unborn vale
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I was watching the god bam Darknell video

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Obviously he has the stats to origin wherever he wants😂

cosmic ice
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yeah dnl has 100% uptime for dps tho

cinder crystal
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Hi battle mage mains, anyone can share what does the party shield buff do ?

outer crane
cosmic ice
cinder crystal
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Thanks! Do the party members need to be in the shield ?

unborn vale
cosmic ice
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When you position yourself right you will see the shield buff and it's timer in the buff section

cinder crystal
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Man that’s pretty good , I think people gotta give more credit to BAM

cosmic ice
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Spread the word 😅

cosmic ice
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this skill is so weak and hard to cap with (off burst) that any bouns will be good, but that 3% skill damage feels really not worth it anymore when it cost 70+ frags for future upgrades... What y'all think about that

unborn vale
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Yea agreed i got it to 10 and notice the difference but such small increases for so many frags now

grim ermine
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Do you need to teleport spam up then whack down finishing blow?

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or just stand still spam dps

unborn vale
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They removed the need to up teleport a while ago i believe

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Although well timed up teleports can dodge lots of attacks

grim ermine
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ooo ok thank you i tht i had to keep tele up

sharp sable
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U clearing chaos will yet? attitude2

unborn vale
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I just about did solo hard azazz today

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11 seconds left

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Are you? I should give practice a go

sharp sable
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Opppppp

sharp sable
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But apparently for solo 380m is the minimum, not sure what ur at

unborn vale
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Feels right that I’m 50m off

frail kestrel
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Y does bam chat have the highest no of comments compared to the other jobs?

paper basalt
unborn vale
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Strongest class needs most comments

dawn python
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What we lacked in arm length (t Rex arms I think coined the term), we made it up in the amt of bars we spit.

dire holly
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Yall funny

dire holly
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Wow we got buffed

frail kestrel
sonic plank
cosmic ice
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finished inherit route ...
Took me like... 4 years ? Spent enough for AU 70 set . Def not recommend

deep flax
dire holly
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Some of us been here since the start of the class

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2188 days

deep flax
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I'm not a fan of BM but just curious how do you guys main the same class for 4 years or more 😱

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And BM is not the top few classes, if I'm not wrong

cosmic ice
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I mean we were in the few top classes (from bottom) for a while. Last big changes to iframes and v2 made us decent in some aspects.

And for the "how" well it's the same for everyone playing MMO games lol grinding and long term is what the game is for

paper basalt
cosmic ice
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i got 170m lynn (Hvhila) and 50m iel (gloom) , gearing aran abit to get to gloom level currently doing hlucid.
bossing muels has no value in current state of msm. they wont return the investment def not create mesos source. unlike pc.
just flowing with the game i guess

but yeah not recommending boss muels unless is free event gear. msm is not built for that. only the latest bosses have value , and to get there you either playing from day1 on a single main or you paying amounts that the "return" is a fraction of the cost

unborn vale
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Mine is because the rr is so hard in this game i cant face swapping

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But I’d love to play another class with my same stats

paper basalt
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Correct me if im wrong

cosmic ice
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nope. commit if you want to play the game that way. it just not "worth it" as boss mule same way as in pc

paper basalt
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Because i thought u do the weekly bosses and then sell the materials

cosmic ice
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what matrials lol. all the boss drops are worthless

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how much does it cost to make will mule ? how much you gain from will per week? you wont cover that

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will stone is like 200m now

paper basalt
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I see

sonic plank
sonic plank
dire holly
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Wow you op