#Battle Mage
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Dont know why it is that way though
can you adjust resolution ? obviously thats on the pc client, but anything replacing that ?
Oo don’t ever know if that is there
Or i never looked
Oh yea not there
Got excited for a momeny
😂
lol sorry
Switch your stats around
Isn’t lvl 8 alt stat more mdc than your main stat?
Should be like 67.5m mdc or something
what mdc?
272 but need to learn phase 2 cleansing
62.5, very minimal but I switched since it's 0.1% IED vs 2.5m mdc
Bro how do you see the boss or yourself with animations at 100%


Yellow trumpet every 15-20s essentially
I don’t 😂
Purple when u see the 1-2 purple butterflies
Thank you! I think I wasnt paying attention well enough
I think i’ve got p1 sorted at least..
Are u killing it before dragon? 😮
Oooo I think just under 2 minutes is the cutoff 
What does your dmg chart look like? I cannot cap at all LOL
Yea I’m also miles away
From capping, especially when it’s FB only
🤣
Trying to decide if i start levelling Origin or condemnation
You really far off 😅
You probably need to do some major changes like re-do hyper stat and remove mdc & extra damage lines into boss/CD
Change mdc souls and HP lines to m.a/d
I obviously cappin rn but as soon as I get a better hexa stat I would have to do some changes
Also next week I should be getting will book (via quest cuz rng and me ain't friends) and source of suffering, so I most likely will lose some mdc 🤭
Yea long game ahead
Hyper stats probably my next change out of mdc
i guess thats should be leveled instand of either weakening / darkaura ?
does the -15% def ignore even does anything nowdays?
https://youtu.be/uNsGwPFwHa8 high ping is just unplayable , really doubt i beable to force clears like that on Dnell/bm in the future unless they do somthing on the visual lag (damage done before the attack is shown)
legit brute forced that with overkill stats 😤
i got hit by that for example
got hit by these strings as well
Dam bro you are in the trenches with that!
Having some brain farts with cleansing in p2
Very close though
8s luckily
Getting the 40s full v1 in is tough (maybe not even possible)
But i was getting like every mini game 🤣
Managed to close the cap damage gap?
I think I’m close with some of the skills
Hitting 206m with 270 cap and 44% ied
Yeah seems good I'm doing 165m with 215ish cap and 42.5%ied on hvhila
Prob missing few m's
I rr’d my mdc hypers to CD
And… changed my weapon soul but im stuck with 19% CD currently
Seems to have made a good boost, saving up to level origin now
Yeaaaaa that makes sense. Best bet is to get trumpets after dreamland right before burst comes up, stun, and then burst. During lazers too she's on the map a long time.
@unborn vale randomly went across you Clucid attempt on yt, you dont have DG on your skills wheel? you play well without it, but i promise that 30sec cd mini iframe is such a game changer somtimes
Yea i know need it as a separate icon, its in my ‘iframe’ preset
I decided to wait for next week patch before i change anything now 😅
i have it as a seprate skills so i can have eternal&shield as presets and have that 30sec iframe ready on demend so i dont have to waste big iframes on nonsense
on lucid i would use it for the timer bomb&jumping over goloms
Good idea
I use it in lucid for the second bomb and in p2
I’ve done better since but not quite clearing (cleansing problems)
these 3 skills are such a waste if time lol
wish they revert the DS change and let us deal damage and charge com while telecasting as it originally used to be
Finishing blow so sad recently
Hopefully the mastery improves it a lot in future
guys,does battlemage ok to main for f2p new player?
bishop/shade will let you to squeeze into bossing without meeting the dps requirements (f2p way of thinking) , bam isnt in that spot
Ah so if f2p i cant deal damage using battle mage? What about paladin? Does it same like bishop/shade for bossing?
as f2p you wont be able to catch up to actual bosses for atleast a year , best advice i would say take w.e the event is giving you and roll with it. so go with iel.
Only resistance remaster applies to wild hunter I think right @dire holly ?
Kinesis dk if u count
Demon slayer and avenger no changes , one is early game link skill slave another is really good as a class in early game
switch to blaster if you wish to cast EXPLOSION all the time
That’s completely different than what you had originally responded to. Remaster for us is unknown (no idea if it’s planned or not)
hahah,yeah i want to use EXPLOOOSIOON all the time
So many slots now with new presets
@dire gazelle @dire holly what trio you guys use
Finishing blow/sweeping staff/dark shock
Dark genesis/battle burst/condemnation
Battle burst not really needed but they are the trios
Anyone else done chaos lucid solo yet? Struggling to keep altar charges in p2 when burst is off
im far off 🫠 i need 2 full burst (3min) to clear p1
It’s a tough one for sure!
Me? I just use everything even tho those skills were never used
The lower skills are not even in wheel
But i have nothing to fill the slots so
😂
Wdym nothing to fill? You missing all common and decent skills, ds4 at this point you waste more resources leveling the other random trios than gaining 😬
Ill get them to 25 then extract then repeat
Using only opened nodes
Im.not wasting nothing
🤣
Ok.
Oh
Time left and stats you currently have ?
I felt like I'm around 20% off from clearing
Like 5s left
Haha
Clear p1 in 1min20 now
I’ll get stats 2 sec
Unbuff stats
Lol exactly 20% over me mdc wise 🤭
Early gartz for the real run
Which jewel set you decided running with ?
I'm using SS m.damage for a while now
I actually just changed to SS BA as i dont have Mag dmg SS
I didnt have that in the practice run though, and was missing guild campfire, so a bit extra dmg to use
It was as perfect a run as i can do 🤣
If boost nodes are maxed, how important is maxing v skills? I think I read above that prio is V3 > V4 > V1&2
I’ll try to get one i was too nervous to record 😂
I feel like after the update, they added lag to finishing blows. Now I have to wait for the animation to finish before casting other skills
Before, I could cast instantly
Is it just me? 
havent noticed smthing diffrent , but you can use the charge to minimize the wait if you need to dodge smthing
All good. How much time left?
51s left
Timed well with burst and origin right at the end
I just did a practice run and I should be able to beat it within roughly the same amount of time as you. Being able to burst p1 in under a minute helps so much.
Under a minute is very sexy
Im about 1min 10s now. All the time helps!
Yea! I’m still not used to managing the butterflies, nor do I know the actually mechanics of it
Sometimes I stand on the right one and it doesn’t charge so does it need a certain amount of dps before it can be charged?
In phase 2? Yea the right/purple one only clears the ‘big’ purple butterflies and you only get 4 charges in total for the whole phase
The top left one is the key to try and hit every 20s, so its a lot of clock watching 
Oh only 4 total?
(If you get too many purple butterflies… it ‘speeds up’ the mini game so that can mess you up too
Yea i try to do one quite early, then every 90s or something
Hmm so then we probably want to clear like every 2 mini games?
Ok that’s good knowledge to have because I think I’ve been trying to cleanse them every chance I get lol
I should be able to clear tonight with a bit more practice, but I’m going to need boss rush lol
Yea once you get in the rhythm its alright
I check the clock when i enter and try to hit every 20s (then clear purple when i notice a lot of them)
**also same after a minigame, check the time and aim for another 20s cleanse on left altar etc
Yea I think I figured out the pattern now!
1 minute 20 seconds left with 5% battery
Tyty 
Timing our burst is tricky. Sometimes I use it right as the mini game is about to start
Haha thats the worst when minigame starts, or you get 5s burst off before it
Must be nice to have a DK type burst thats over quickly
Yea. Right now I save Erda Nova (stun) for when my burst is back up so the first rotation in p2 gets played out
Definitely
Who would've thought we will have such a decent mobing at 2026
For BaM I would say around 300m
I was able to clear cLucid solo in about 8:40 minutes with 315m mdc
Big thing is that if you can clear p1 with one burst and one origin you should be good!
According to others, you ideally want to clear p1 in under 2 minutes.
I’m on 275m and clear just in 9min 
Lots of practice needed for timing of skills and altars!
@sonic plank
Clear phase 1 in 40 seconds, and then have fun with finishing blow doing 0 damage in phase 2 for a minute
🤣
Yea it’s rough lol
You’ll get it!
I feel the bam power
I like the current BaM, the Vskills and buffs line up perfectly with party shield and I-frame (120 CD)
I’m still hitting the dmg cap with just a 40 Abso wep 
In contrast, my Iel burst rotation is a mess

Yes we are in a good place for sure!
The buff preset was a nice addition too to speed up our attack on burst
share stats 🤔
im at the 230's with 50 abso and scrapping the cap (def not for the passives and FB)
mind sharing full burst (1min) BA? ithink its a better way to compare damage since cap is abit tricky for comparison now
thats my 1min
I’ll get this tomorrow quick just out now
actually i might be closer than i thought need to learn when to use the chargers tho

How many deaths?
Problem with solo is that you’re only allowed 3 deaths so managing the butterflies is very important
They say that you should aim to cleanse the left side every 20 or so seconds
And the right side every 90 or so, or when you cannot tolerate them any longer. The right side is also limited to like 3-4 uses from what I’m told
Also in p2 if you cannot cleanse the left side in a timely manner you’re going to go into the mini game more often which isn’t ideal for dps
So timing your burst is key to being able to deal dmg as well as generating the dps needed to be allowed to cleanse the left side (left side build charges based on dps)
Does bind delay / stop a mini game from happening? Or she can get immunity whole binded
It can delay the start of the minigame but not stop it 
In a way it's possible to origin bind and Erda bind right after or it's instant mini game as soon as the bind is over
Tried it on that 1 attempt I had and kinda failed it 🤭 lost some of the origin hits
It feels pretty quick doesn’t it
👀
What hyper skill do you guys choose after V skill showed up
I gave up 3 auras, instead I put 1 3 7 8 9
I have the same as you, 1 3 7 8 9

Nice
Not sure actually
Its only extra 5% now isnt it?
The shield and finishing blow crits seem more useful for me
Yes but the shield passive dmg is only for the bam and not the group so it may be better in solo content but not for group
It’s also mag dmg compared to def reduction so one is slightly more valuable than the other
On paper, the dmg difference is probably comparable
Alternatively, wouldn’t going 1, 2, 3, 7, and 8 make more sense?
Our fb is lacking damage so getting an extra 20% cd, despite having diminishing returns (the calculations might be different but I’m not sure), may just be better than 10% mag on everything (assuming you cap on most other skills)
For sure
Maybe they not here
I’ll dm !
i dont think weakenng does anything to nowdays bosses
its regular def, like for sf maps
should be relativly "easy" to check, go to mulung , and toggle yellow and pink auras if you hit the same its useless
^FB attacks only
From a mathematical perspective I still think weakening is better, due to diminishing returns on overinflated stats.
Ex. Let's say you have 500% CD and 500% BA and 100% MDMG. If you were choosing between +10% CD/BA/MDMG, choosing +10% MDMG will increase your overall damage by a lot more.
This is further exacerbated when the stat is rare (ex. the weakness hyper). Think of how effective the def ignore stat was when it first came out. Same logic applies here. Even more effective in solo settings since in party settings more classes also have enemy defense reduction abilities.
Not to mention that 20% CD ain't that much especially when final blow is only like 3% of total damage
(not counting aura scythe). Whereas the enemy defense reduction hyper would increase all other abilities' damage as well as finishing blow/aura scythe (including origin and other vskills).
This is just my theory. As with everything you should always test to confirm 
Very good point! I will have a go with it and see what happens
Is this weakening hyper vs FB CD hyper?
This response sounds kinda vague bro 
I mean change over to weakening hyper again instead of FB crit damage
Your point super valid i hadn’t really looked into it
If @cosmic ice's screenshots are the difference then we have our answer already 
150b vs 157b total damage
And that's without v skills, origin only
Yea big difference even there
Jk he used an extra sweeping staff in the 2nd screenshot
But you can see origin alone 15b vs 16.1b
Wait I'm lost
Need more controlled tests 
The max and avg damages higher though
Someone test with vskills too 
lol got a mad phonecall while trying to share the results 😂
so obviusly the lower damage one is with yellow aura.
i dont have the extra point in hyper on pink
stats on the dummy
with purple aura (boss) i do have hyper point in it
Need someone to sacrifice 100 crystals to test for us 
ignore the other skills, look at the damage min,max and avg for FB only
Oh so that test is between weakening and purple?
tested with yellow (since it has no stats that effect damage output) , weakinng and boss
so weakening and boss had the same result on the dot, but i do have the hyper on boss aura while 0 on weakening
so superisingly weakining might be useful
Yes exactly
We're just debating between the FB 20% CD hyper vs the extra -5% weakening hyper
well,
Especially when you die and lucid gets that +100% pdmg/mdmg buff 
you have over 600% cd base that 20% is not even 3% of that overall cd.. i would assume it will be very minimal.
try using a cd% buff and mimic the change
3rd attempt (2nd after actually reading what each trumpet does) might even be possible if i learn how to min.max ? 231m mdc
ofc theres a whole p3 ahead
1 death was completly random instant death in the butterfly mini game, the other one was while i was taking SS lol
the bad mechanics makes me lose so much dps... my vhila 40sec ori burst is like 2.8T ... 2nd ori i done 1.5T 😂 that burst alone will have been the clear diff
@unborn vale will be awesome if you could record you next solo run so i could take some notes
Yes dude i can do that
Hopefully i can get a clean clear, my one the other day was a mess 🤣
lv.10 origin makes it also the hardest hitting skill cap wise
Lvl 10 origin is a must
It makes clearing cLucid p1 much much easier
I can clear p1 in about 25-30 seconds solo but now I run with a group
1 3 7 8 9
But if you’re looking for a team
They only look your personal boss DPM
and there’s solo ver. for most of the boss now
I still recommend shield 10% magic damage than weakening aura
Lol I wish we could have cross region bossings...
Imagine a party of the top 10 battlemages...
100/120 sec party iframe cycles , 10 blink fly + dg iframe +10 sec eternal iframe = 100% invincibility 🤭
No skill required for darknell/BM
I thought this before, it would be amazing
Permanent iframe
meanwhile i cant even get a multi hvhila clear 🤭

Not even DPM sometimes. Most recently I’ve been asked about my mdc/ied only

I do, however, still think that weakening aura hyper, despite it only being 5%, is better for group content compared to 10% mdmg just for us only
Off burst dps is a problem so that 5% may be better overall for a group, but solo play the 10% mdmg will be better

For the mastery skills, any added skill damage increase on lv10?
If not I think I'll just start adding to alter if it's the same +3% for all levels
Good question I’m actually not sure 🤔
I was thinking i need to level v1 next as thats my lowest avg damage of the 4 v skills
Re doing my stats first
it might be the lowest, but you should remember its being used while you maxed buffed and nearly half is timied with DS4.
and v2 has 100% up time with similar damage %'s to the other skills
atleast these are my conclusions after going through my BA looking at min,max and avg damage of skill
but com & DG are by far weaker than all vmatrix skills so i immideatly dropped 5 levels into it since its a no brainer lol
lv 6>7 requires 45 frags so i thought 1% FD on v2 might be a decent vlaue for the 30frags requirement for lv 1>2
Hvhila ba
i also dont understand the random 1-100M lines i get on some of the vskills like whats up with that
iwas sure it was somkind of a bug but its consistent for few months now
cuz there no chance i hit min.damage of 94M with FB but done few lines of 59M with V1 activited ...
cleard practrice 🥳
Nice!
Hey, I main bishop, I really love our v4 burst, does bam have something similar? Looking for a mage to transfer my old gear to
Unfortunately origin is our only ‘burst’
Next best is our v3 which is a 20s duration summon
But over 40-60s on a stationary boss i think we put out pretty good dps now
@dire holly @cosmic ice what you two doing with hexa?
I’ve got origin 10 and mastery 5, now saving to try (again) on stat page 2…
V1 doesnt cap for me at the moment though so think that may need some help soon
Terrible lucid run but my scores on here for ref
i went back gambling to get 125m mdc from hexa stat. being shafted so far, but it will happen sooner or later
Haha yea same for me
mdc is too low to have fun 😅 (ignore the ied, ds4 proced while i ab)
I needed 1 hit from last 2 and didnt get it
Oh nice your v1 hits same as your other v skills
low mdc perks ya
My max seems to be like 14m below for some reason - maybe needs that fd bump
im also still having backlashes from the inherit life
stoped counting, every single item was and still is over 20 chaos scroll resets
at this point its a matter of principal rather than price worthiness lol
AbsoLab Mage Suit [Chaos] - Attempts: 19 Failed: 18, Success: 1
90days, pretty sure its 1/22
all with scrolls 3-5% 's 🥹 overall im around x2.5 tries above averge on all my gear
but ayyy the automation on the ticket system said that all odds applied normally even tho we talking over 300 mastercraft attempts account wise with single didget of passes + extra odds from scrolls
so who am i to judge 🫥
Dam that’s awful stats isn’t it!
I need to figure out best way to get the reduce scrolls
I’m doing v1 to lvl 10 and then maybe condemnation next
Or maybe v2 since it’s always up
I really want the extra mdc from stats 
But v1 makes sense based on my stats
tbh thought it will be harder mech wise with my ping 5 practices over all with 2 clears and a real run 1/1
now... how far am i from cwill
I haven’t even tried that yet
changed my prrire weapon 1.6m shoulder+cape 180kx2 mdc souls to
ark 19%fd 3.8x2 boss on cape&shoulder
results look hella nice
hvhila dying on 2nd origin 4:30min run now compared to 5-close to 6min run earlier
would be awesome when i get some more mesos for more soul effects and rerolls
Oof nice! Feels definitely worth the FD boost compared to (now) relatively low mdc gains
19% awesome too
Hi guys! Im looking to comeback to the game and I have a 211 BaM. Is the class still viable to use as main?
Yea i think we’re in a pretty good place now
More than ever before
Niceee imma start back rn
maybe this is the one ?🥹
Gosh damn. So lucky. Really good outcome.
All three of my chars ended up with about 90m cap. Bah
if you have 3 chars that actully needs the 90>120 cap thats a pretty good spot ngl
my 2nd main has lv 9 sub 17/20 and tbh its no where close to actully needing it
I didnt say I was capping on any of my chars. Just that hexa stat was probably the easiest/cheapest source of cap. Wanted to end with at least a sub 10. Since rest of my gears are complete blah besides a necro weapon.
What are you guys doing on hexa?
After originally to 10.. I’ve got mastery to 5 and doing v1 to 10 as it doesn’t cap always (lower max dmg but maybe as no ied in the skill..)
I'm at 10 ori , 9 mastery 4 v1 2v2
Upgrading v1 now
But the hexa mastery at msm is so underwhelming , I I think even at lvl 30 it won't help us cap with it 🤭
Yea seems like the way forward doesn’t it
I guess mastery maybe more important to 10 before v1 as it is always on too?
I wish v1 boost added duration
That's what I thought, def if it had a boost at 5 multipliers like in PC version, seems like there are none so I moved to v1 to be more efficient frag cost wise
I'll rethink what I'm doing after v1 is lv10 (these do have bonuses at 10-20-30)
Need to see how the BA looks like after that
But most likely it will be v2 to atleast lvl 5 or 6 before going back to mastery
Yes very true
Mastery may help our off burst damage a tiny bit
Until we get FB mastery
i guess we will get mastery 2 with hexa stat 2 together will defiantly be a game changer
Is hexa stat 2 just more mdc etc ?
All I know is based on PC.
In PC it's the same you just can't have the same exact main stat for the hexa stats 1 & 2
Ah i see makes sense
I have 10 in v1 and currently working on v2 to 10
Not sure what I’m gonna do after
Need to check dmg charts
V1 seemed to be in need of the most damage boost from mine
V2/3/4 all cap quite good but v2 definitely next in line like you
whats the difference between dark aura and weakening aura? dark aura gives 10% dmg and weakening remove 10% def
can use whatever?
for bossing
Yes can use either, usually weakening aura is preferred but i think it’s pretty equal now
for v skills should aura scythe be maxed first and then abyssal lightning ? and then the other 2
Yea i would say Aura scythe definitely first, then either Lightning or Altars
Altars are down all the time so the boost in damage is great
Levelling lightning makes sure its on the same cooldown as aura scythe! And its very strong now
ty its much appreciated
Do you guys see similar battle analysis in Hilla?
And other bosses..
Really low min damage
Had it for a while for some specific skills but not like that
Your avg is also low looks like no fair trade in this case
These super low hits skewing it
Not sure what they are from 
This is vhilla
Also second Q, do you guys hit the buffs before origin? Or origin and then burst buffs
V1 etc
If you can cap v3 and origin w.o buffs
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Damn you got alot of stats gg
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That's some next level min.maxin
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It's even harder to time it cuz it will be like 48 sec of burst , 30/40 sec is already hard enough
For bosses like vhila it will be good , any other boss I'm not sure about it, unless you will origin completely separately from the normal 2mon burst , missing some of the stin value
I was watching the god bam Darknell video
Obviously he has the stats to origin wherever he wants😂
yeah dnl has 100% uptime for dps tho
Hi battle mage mains, anyone can share what does the party shield buff do ?
Do you mean hyper skill passive?
When taking the right hypers
10 sec iframe for everyone under shield every 2min , leapable
Thanks! Do the party members need to be in the shield ?
Unfortunately yes, or just touching it
When you position yourself right you will see the shield buff and it's timer in the buff section
Man that’s pretty good , I think people gotta give more credit to BAM
Spread the word 😅
this skill is so weak and hard to cap with (off burst) that any bouns will be good, but that 3% skill damage feels really not worth it anymore when it cost 70+ frags for future upgrades... What y'all think about that
Yea agreed i got it to 10 and notice the difference but such small increases for so many frags now
Do you need to teleport spam up then whack down finishing blow?
or just stand still spam dps
This one
They removed the need to up teleport a while ago i believe
Although well timed up teleports can dodge lots of attacks
ooo ok thank you i tht i had to keep tele up
Should definitely hit buffs before origin so origin does the most damage since it quite literally does 1/4th of your total dps 
U clearing chaos will yet? 
No haven’t tried actually
I just about did solo hard azazz today
11 seconds left

Are you? I should give practice a go
Nah I'm getting carried in team

But apparently for solo 380m is the minimum, not sure what ur at
336 currently 
Feels right that I’m 50m off
Y does bam chat have the highest no of comments compared to the other jobs?
Because we bad

Ive been wondering that as well for a long time
Strongest class needs most comments
What we lacked in arm length (t Rex arms I think coined the term), we made it up in the amt of bars we spit.
visual buff 🤣

finished inherit route ...
Took me like... 4 years ? Spent enough for AU 70 set . Def not recommend
Gratz
Nice bro very sexy gears!
How do you keep the passion in a single class for 4 years
I'm not a fan of BM but just curious how do you guys main the same class for 4 years or more 😱
And BM is not the top few classes, if I'm not wrong
I mean we were in the few top classes (from bottom) for a while. Last big changes to iframes and v2 made us decent in some aspects.
And for the "how" well it's the same for everyone playing MMO games lol grinding and long term is what the game is for
Do you have other classes you are interested in? If so how do you deal with that? Boss mules?
i got 170m lynn (Hvhila) and 50m iel (gloom) , gearing aran abit to get to gloom level currently doing hlucid.
bossing muels has no value in current state of msm. they wont return the investment def not create mesos source. unlike pc.
just flowing with the game i guess
but yeah not recommending boss muels unless is free event gear. msm is not built for that. only the latest bosses have value , and to get there you either playing from day1 on a single main or you paying amounts that the "return" is a fraction of the cost
Mine is because the rr is so hard in this game i cant face swapping
But I’d love to play another class with my same stats
So in other words only make commit to those mules if there a burning event
Correct me if im wrong
nope. commit if you want to play the game that way. it just not "worth it" as boss mule same way as in pc
Wdym by not worth it
Because i thought u do the weekly bosses and then sell the materials
what matrials lol. all the boss drops are worthless
how much does it cost to make will mule ? how much you gain from will per week? you wont cover that
will stone is like 200m now




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