Battle Mage

[dire holly]

So probably just better to use for dark room

[cosmic ice]

it has a short time you can hit, but majority of the laser phase you cannot deal damage no

[frozen zephyr]

Got it bro thanks heaps haha
I guess I can just set whatever and don’t worry too much about it hehe

[robust plinth]

V matrix?

[unborn vale]

Anyone else keep dying in AB since patch? Is it the hp conversion thing?

I havent bought hp pots on my bam for like 2 years

[cosmic ice]

I think it's that, and also (atleast idid) I equipped more decent v skills that might go off at once and consume HP

[unborn vale]

Ah good point it could be that on the skills

I just put 2000 v8 pots this morning and it went through then so quickly

[cosmic ice]

can anyone explain to me how this even possbile ? its will boss BA
75.5 31.X % ied and ds4 on.
how do some skills hits exactly 80.91, but others also "capped" at 68.82 the same time

the only explanation i can think off, that shade's split is shown as extra damage (and not extra lines with reduced damage as it should) and i didnt burst while any of the splits were up?

2nd page for extra refreance

the only "common" ive seen is that the burst skills are the ones with lower cap

while passive & lower cd ones capped on 81m

_

and changing the topic abit-
did yall notice that roughly 70-75% of our damage is from passives/summons lmao??
we can basiccly just offcd all summons and still do majority of the damage ignoring v1 and final blow 💀
what is this

our "main" attack skill is so neglactic and useless, the finle damage hyperstat can sometimes deal more damage/equal it out if you have high enough of overall stats .

i gotta check if my FA skill is lvl 20 or 25. cuz if its lvl 20... damn

[outer crane]

I’ve got 15189

[gilded oriole]

Yeah shades split will chg your max damage data.

[sonic plank]

Love this update, Ethereal and Party Shield both at 120s now, line up perfectly with burst CD. The change to the 150 hyper buff makes burst hit even harder, and the Alter change is nice too, feels like a clean optimization over the old one that sometimes lost DPS. Party Shield is just OP

BaM is T0–T1 overall after the patch, imo

The skill wheel I’m using

[dire holly]

[cosmic ice]

hold your horses , the teem "op" is Abit out of place lol, we finally got something good , don't call for a nerf 😅

Overall, for party bossing we got a qol, and earned back out support spot .
Dps for bosses and ba is basically the same , but we also lost all damage output we had in-between bursts (no more 1 min rotation with our v3).
Which is terrible for dojo, and not that great either for culvert.

Compared to other classes we are still way below average for dps , and honestly the class rn is badly designed , that we legit deal no damage in that 90sec of off burst, to a point that I even tested it today with party Hdamien solo -
I haven't casted a single final blow off burst , for the whole p2 and ended up clearing with 10 sec faster than the timer I had pre-change (most likely cuz I had better damage up time bursting with the new iframes)

[limpid talon]

for the shield hyper skill theres one that says it gives 10% passive mdi, should that be picked? is it 10% all the time or only when shield is on

[gilded oriole]

Only when shield is on

[sonic plank]

Long CD burst actually good for hard bosses, short burst makes timing harder

[sonic plank]

Tier shouldn’t be judged just by DPS imo, BaM’s kit really shines on bosses where you can’t just stand and DPS

10 sec, 120 cd team iframe is undoubtedly OP

[sonic plank]

I believe it’s 10% all the time

[dire holly]

@sonic plank Your skill wheel irks me

[sonic plank]

I’m lazy, so I just dump all my bursts

[dire holly]

It's just....

You have will skill with your buffs

You have infantry with your main attack...

you have part of your burst buffs with v3/v2

I assume you are not a BaM main?

[sonic plank]

I was a Pc BaM main

[dire holly]

Old school BaM was best BaM

But yea, your presets need some work in my opinion

First things first, having infantry on your main attack preset is likely to get you killed in bossing due to the long cast time

[sonic plank]

I cast Will skill and Infantry during Abyssal Lightning’s iframe

[dire holly]

How can you cast ifantry during abyssal i-frame if it's on your main wheel?

It'll just be cast whenever it's off cooldown

[sonic plank]

My full burst rotation is Preset 1 → P2 → P3 → P4. Will Skill’s 120s cd matches Abyssal Lightning, so I’m always casting it during an iframe. Infantry has a 60s cd, so I’m safe about half the time, but yeah there’s still a chance I could get one shot while casting it

[dire holly]

Hmm it kind of makes sense now that you put it that way

But yea, I don't like that you have infantry with main attack preset

Even sweeping could get you killed lol

But sweeping is less risky

[sonic plank]

The downside is the hyper burst is too powerful my MDC is too low to withstand it

But it makes things easier for me, as all the buffs/bursts/iframes are now 120 cds

[dire holly]

Yea it's hard not to lose duration on some of our burst skills

Cannot avoid it sadly

What's your mdc currently?

[sonic plank]

40m

[dire holly]

Lotus territory I think

Not bad

Maybe Damien too if you can find a group

Party Shield quite good now so they'd probably let you in even if you're lacking in dps

[sonic plank]

I’m lucky to have my guildies carrying me in Will

[dire holly]

Wowowo

Very nice!

Now you can save people in p3

[cosmic ice]

xd lotus is like 14m mdc required

40m can prob min.cut solo gloom (and what comes below)

[dire holly]

What in the world

Surely that's for solo content

[cosmic ice]

my 0 mdc (24m base that cant hit over 15m lines) sols lotus in like no time , 0 struggle

[dire holly]

But mdc requirement probably higher for groups

[cosmic ice]

hdam is like 20m-25m~ mdc

lower ^

for team you need to hit 2%

[dire holly]

Sounds like solo content for sure

[cosmic ice]

and now days teams could finish lotus in 30 sec xd

yeah solo content

[dire holly]

True

[cosmic ice]

but solo content is 10% while team is 25%

im pretty sure if i sweat abit and get a ds4 i could taem solo

[dire holly]

If by 25% you mean 25% hp

Then that's only if you duo

[cosmic ice]

nono

if you go team by yourself

[dire holly]

Or solo multi

[cosmic ice]

its 25%

[dire holly]

Duo boss still had 25%

[cosmic ice]

but its also 25% if you duo

[dire holly]

Up to 2 players

Yea

[cosmic ice]

so its kinda make 0 sense unless your duo will suck all your death count

[dire holly]

Depends on the content yea

[cosmic ice]

i started jonining lotus runs on my bam like 2 years ago? had 16m~ mdc (before all the freemdc gains) and it was after i already soloed the solo mode , ibelive it took me 6-7min~

[dire holly]

Solo Lotus was out for 2 years???

[cosmic ice]

ya

[dire holly]

Wow time flies

idk I think back then

Lotus group mdc requirement was like

40m or so

[cosmic ice]

mioght be trippin on time tho

[dire holly]

Or 30m

[cosmic ice]

lemme check

[dire holly]

I don't remember

[cosmic ice]

hell no

when hdam was out

30m mdc was achived only by the top 10

are you talking about lucid?

[dire holly]

Hmm

Yea I don't recall the exact numbers

But either way

[cosmic ice]

40m mdc was the min. for gloom

[dire holly]

I guess if you're aiming for 2% contribution then lowest mdc possible is fine

[cosmic ice]

oh no , lol im clearing solo on my lynn

and in party she does like 6-9%

[dire holly]

Maybe I'm thinking Lotus release patch

No idea

[cosmic ice]

lotus release patch if you had 20m-25m mdc you were a god

[dire holly]

But I definitely don't recall lotus on release requiring only 16m mdc

[cosmic ice]

equal to 180+ mdc of now days

[dire holly]

I don't know anymore

It's all a blur

It's good that they made solo content like Lotus/Damien give the same amount of coins as group play

Minus the accessory drop

Good for those who cannot find teams

[cosmic ice]

i guess it was more like 1.X years ago https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qhyoYvhazNk

[dire holly]

Hmm

Looks like you had a hard carry

So whatever your mdc was then

They probably already calculated the average mdc needed for the team to clear

So let's say your mdc back then was 16m. Average mdc for Lotus clear could've been closer to 30m

[cosmic ice]

the carry there was the top 1 bam in our server, he was mid-high 2XM mdc, and capping EVERYline, im not even close to cap lines,(lvl 218) limited vmatrix slots & levels, no necro so struggluing with crit % i dont have hyper stat lines , and im not use all bam skills.
also i believe im like 14m here but its w.e
so its not like x2/x3 damage = his

[dire holly]

Yea..

Now people just try to look at average mdc/dps for the team

Especially for harder bosses

[cosmic ice]

ihope you aint asking your guild members for 40m mdc to get carried lotus 😉

[dire holly]

If it weren't for more solo bosses being introduced, players would probably still have a hard time finding groups

[dire holly]

lol don't need to anymore

[cosmic ice]

the soloing option gave us a good benching mark to know if you fit to join a team or not

if you clear= good mechanics, and cal deal 10% by yourself , which is over the req.
anyone that does 80% of solo clearing without dying 3 times before he times out could basiclly join

support / having hard carry? depends on team overall stats, but 4% total damage at the end could also work

[dire holly]

Yea depends on team composition

I can see many alt BaMs joining runs and only getting 2%

[cosmic ice]

since resent update?

or you have many alt bams in your server ?

[dire holly]

Yea recent update

no idea about BaM alts before update

But after update, lots more

[cosmic ice]

yeah i can see why some teams might ask for one now

[dire holly]

BaM alts will get BaM nerfed

[cosmic ice]

^

thats what i a said earlier with the "op" thing

shush, we were useless can weak since release , give us 1 full patch cycle to hf

[dire holly]

Yea we're not op dps at all

Support skill is a really nice change because before we had no i-frame

[cosmic ice]

i love the gensis iframe, some people take it as granted

this thing is 🔥

[dire holly]

I haven't done my bosses yet so cannot test DG iframe yet

How long do you think it is?

[cosmic ice]

its so nice for solo will (30sec sync with the 30 sec leg 1shot attack)

1sec or less

but not hard to time it

[dire holly]

Probably similar to Bishop Genesis iframe then

Theirs is like 0.7 seconds

[cosmic ice]

not familliar but i guess

[dire holly]

It's in the rebalance notes

Bishop is about 0.72 seconds

[cosmic ice]

so they had thier iframe time noted while ours didnt?

[dire holly]

Yup

[cosmic ice]

🤷‍♂️

[dire holly]

Theirs went from 1.4 seconds to 0.72ish

I assume it's about the same though

[cosmic ice]

im taking it , ran all bosses (besides hilla) this week already, and its a game changer

[dire holly]

Thinking about just putting it on main attack preset lol

[cosmic ice]

hell no

[dire holly]

Laziness lol

[cosmic ice]

why would you

and will it help you ? you will just lose dps

[dire holly]

Who knows lol

It's the "lazy" method

[cosmic ice]

and gamble for the stars to align for you to use that 0.X sec iframe randomly just in time?

[dire holly]

I have dg on second page right now

So it'll probably just stay there

[cosmic ice]

i gave it a proper dedicated solo slot on my first page

[dire holly]

Yea can't do that

No room

[cosmic ice]

"wAtcH mE"

xd

[dire holly]

I think

If you're on pc

Having dg on second page but on main attack button is ideal

So when you switch you just hold same key

Then switch back to first page

[cosmic ice]

yeah for pc , you could use a key to quick;y toggle

but i switch alot from pc to phone, dont wanna bother

imade the dg slot work , and it has results

[dire holly]

I mostly play pc for bossing

DG will be very useful for will p3 if timed well

[cosmic ice]

all bosses i do are too easy, i only sit on pc for will (since im relativly new for team)

it is

[dire holly]

Yea all bosses too easy now

Just waiting to get onto vhilla team

[cosmic ice]

in team you have 2 spider legs every min with a 30sec diff

[dire holly]

But mdc a little low still

[cosmic ice]

you will cycle team shields with a bishop, and use dg for the white eyes

[dire holly]

Also ethereal form

[cosmic ice]

have eternal for emrgency iframe too

with a bishop you can cycle shell and bam shield

since they are 2min

[dire holly]

Yea

[cosmic ice]

for yellow eyes*

[dire holly]

Right now I think Bishop skill can last 2 yellow eyes

If timed right

[cosmic ice]

does it?

[dire holly]

Yea

Benediction I think?

[cosmic ice]

pretty sure bene is for damage

and shell is shield

[dire holly]

Bene reduces dmg too I think

Idk I'm not bishop main lol

Shell or bene

[cosmic ice]

and thats my lynn, shes hella weak cuz im foucing in failing upgrades on my bam. (4months no changes 😅 60B~ spent)

im trolling with the accurcy gloves... 9/0 on necro attempts

[dire holly]

Am I crazy or did the look of shield change?

[sharp sable]

Yes ur crazy but no it didn't change

Just kidding it totally changed

Its got a shiny look to it now

[dire holly]

Yea and I think it got larger too

[sharp sable]

And allies can see it no matter what I think

[dire holly]

It’s very feint from my testing of it

If you had the lowest transparency setting active you can just barely see it

But maybe it’s different for anyone other than the bam

[sharp sable]

v

[dire holly]

oops lolol

[sharp sable]

So does V2 last forever now????

[dire holly]

120 seconds

So basically forever

[sharp sable]

I keep instinctually recasting it every 30s

Oh wow every 2 minutes that's amazing

[dire holly]

I'm glad they changed it from 30 to 120

Yea

And the attack range is great

Cooldown is like 1 second

So it's good to recast in lucid/will

[sharp sable]

And fort and culvert and ghb and Damien and harchon

[dire holly]

Pretty much lol

[sharp sable]

How does it work in AB? Only recasts every 120s?

[dire holly]

Yea it only gets recast after alter expires

It's really good in ab

[sharp sable]

That's dooooooope

Bam finally S tier

Jkjkjk

[dire holly]

Whoa whoa whoa

Let's not say that LOL

You gonna get the class nerfed

[sharp sable]

https://tenor.com/view/noob-gif-12347676651502312193

[sonic plank]

2 mins faster post patch https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YnwDg6waXUU

[limpid talon]

is weakening aura better than dark aura ? or is weakening aura more like an indirect mdi buff bcuz its lowering magic dmg reduction? making it better than a boss atk buff ? im not really familiar with how reducing phys/mag dmg reduction stat works

[dawn python]

Could be stat dependent. You can try it out on forest dummy to see what gives you more dmg.

[cosmic ice]

@dire holly better pin any of the aura/hyper skill related answers , that question will repeat itself often 😅

[dire holly]

[outer crane]

I made it

[unborn vale]

Congrats! How was it

[outer crane]

Not bad

Shield made us like Sia🤣🤣🤣

[unborn vale]

Do you know if this is still reset by time leap?

[outer crane]

I think so

But I’ll try it later

[dire holly]

It does if I recall correctly, but it’s maybe not the best value to use solely on our bubble due to the long cooldown (5 minutes) time leap now has

[unborn vale]

Yea fair i couldnt remember if our shield got taken out of Time Leaps remit

Havent tried yet but useful backup

[dire holly]

[unborn vale]

🐳

[unborn vale]

Nice!!

[wispy torrent]

My BaM just reached lvl 200 , is Abyssal Lightning a useful dps vskill?

[unborn vale]

Yes sir

Priority to level up is v1 (aura scythe) and then our other 3 skills are all good dps now

[wispy torrent]

thanks

[unborn vale]

@dire holly

What was your tactics, I think my timing is all wrong

Or did you get some big gains recently xD
I’m at 112mdc / 41% ied 67k matk

Without br this one…

[dire holly]

I had some big gains recently. I also gained a little more ied from the event and from getting the Will accessory.

Tactic... I don't really try to stay on the right side anymore. I just stay middle as much as possible

[grand adder]

Just got my bam to 200 to check out the v skill. Wow u guys have it rough

How do u guys trigger abyssal lightning without having to constantly teleport left n right?

[dire holly]

You don’t (in ab at least)

Our ab farming was wayyyy worse prior to the altar change. It’s much better now thankfully

[grand adder]

Oh how do I trigger it in bossing?

[dire holly]

V2 altar/teleport applies dark brand (2nd job passive from dark shock) so you never really need to worry about triggering abyssal lightning

The teleport effect from abyssal lightning is optional

[grand adder]

Oh so pretty much altar trigger abyssal lightning?

[dire holly]

No

[grand adder]

When I try in fog, I teleport to apply debuff, and auto attack. But it didn’t trigger abyssal lightning

[dire holly]

Altar applies a branding, or debuff mark (dark brand), that when attacked will trigger the lightning

[dire holly]

It should

[grand adder]

Maybe I’m blind. Will try again

[dire holly]

Debuff lasts 5 seconds but constantly gets reapplied

Abyssal Lightning has a short reactivation cooldown of 0.5 seconds (if I’m not mistaken)

Finishing blow or what it described as “blow-type skills” should trigger lightning procs

Now that I think about it, do you even have dark shock toggled on/equipped on pet?

[grand adder]

Yes

I just didn’t have altar summon

It works now

[grand adder]

It seems fast but yea thr altar trigger every 2-3 seconds

So def a lot of line missing

I just tried for fun by presetting finishing blow and teleport together. And hold up and spam that preset so it moves me up, trigger additional abyssal lightning

Like only 50-80 line more on abyssal out of 1000. But lose like 4 casts of finishing blow compared to without presetting so it’s not worth

[dire holly]

Teleport works too for branding but we typically just rely on altars to do it for us. Teleport should really only be used to dodge

On harder bosses, what we call “telecasting” (teleport + finishing blow) is not ideal as it’s more likely to get you killed while you’re in mid air

That and teleport no longer does actual dmg outside of when abyssal lightning is active

[dire holly]

I died in the run but too lazy to try again

[unborn vale]

Dam what the

What are your stats

[dire holly]

Secret

[unborn vale]

😄

[dire holly]

It's uh...

[unborn vale]

Trying to decide if im slacking or weaker

Haha

[dire holly]

about 119.4m mdc nearly 50% ied with event

[unborn vale]

Nice!

https://tenor.com/view/emril-lagasse-bam-chef-cooking-gif-4785353

[dire holly]

Abso wep helped quite a bit

But it's still only level 40 lol

[unborn vale]

Awesome though

I need some ied boost hopefully they do mythic flames in event again soon

[dire holly]

I think pushing ied is a bit of a trap lol

Unless you don't have single lines on some gear

But I was hearing that aiming for ied on some items might not be ideal for late game?

Need more info on that

[unborn vale]

Oh interesting

I’ve got single line legendary on everything so its a gamble to roll now

[echo phoenix]

ied is always good, it directly impacts your damage ceiling. although yes, it's diminishing gains on the stat itself.. but the higher your mdc is the more impactful boss def will be cuz it's % based

especially now that the game is steering into burst meta, being able to hit your cap during burst becomes the main load of your damage

also, the average whale (120m~) are capping with just A50

[cosmic ice]

Rng gated game 😬 6 50% fails in a row.
30+ fails on 3von Leon
Gloom ring 1 4 fails in a row
Eye patch 2* 5 fails

Where's my gainssssss

[dire holly]

Hmmm, if they’re high-ied legendaries it might be hard to roll from.

I think low-end ied on mythic flames is like 3.2%

[dire holly]

I don’t disagree with you, but I think it’s not worth pursuing after having a certain amount of ied. 40% or so, in my opinion, is when it sort of gets more difficult to obtain because you’re then trying to roll for double line legendary, or even mythic, flames.

I’ve also overheard some discussions on which pieces are best to get ied on because gears that provide flat patk/matk might be better for hitting higher cap; I don’t know how true this is on paper, but it’s worth looking into

[unborn vale]

Some good info!

[dire holly]

Ahhh so many typos lol

[sharp sable]

mythic flames ftw

[sharp sable]

holy ur cracked now

[dire holly]

Not at all

[normal jackal]

We have an umbreon

[echo phoenix]

yeah i agree the costs gets exponentially ridiculous, so far from what i've seen for people at 200m~250m they just get more PA on potentials but still greed for as much ied as they can as they're boss def capping during burst

it's hard to tell for now i guess, the game seems to be in a transitional phase rn

[cosmic ice]

I had a long paragraph on this but the automode decided to block it for some reason (no slurs so idk 🤷🏻‍♂️)
But overall it's class and character depended.
For BaMs it safe to say you want IED over magic att

[wise gazelle]

I love how active the BaM community is. Yall always brainstorming and having deep analysis on burst and boss information

[unborn vale]

Lots of similar people searching for pain in the game 🤣

[dire holly]

Think my buffs ended 10 seconds early in this run.

[unborn vale]

🤨🤯🤯🤯

[unborn vale]

We need a gear review

[dire holly]

I prefer to keep that a secret even though it’s a feature that’s coming after the update

[unborn vale]

Oh yea i forgot that is coming

Interesting addition

[dire holly]

Need an option to hide it

People gonna see my 0 cut gears

[unborn vale]

Even v matrix spying

[unborn vale]

I also have some of these

[dire holly]

Vmatrix not as big of an issue I think

[dire holly]

Yea… rough times I tell you

Rough times

Days where you get impatient and try to land necro on alts

[unborn vale]

I’m happy for it, someone can tell me what i need to improve without me screen shotting everything

😂

[dire holly]

I mean

If there’s anything I can tell you

It’s this: I have 0 cd emblems lol

[unborn vale]

Interesting 🤔

I don’t even remember what i have

[dire holly]

Yea..

I don’t think it matters all too much now with the many ways you can obtain cd%

Although cd% emblem on gears is considered bis

[unborn vale]

This is true

Higher CD base stats on some of the items too (wep/hat etc)

Maybe makes up for it

[dire holly]

A little bit yea

If anything, I think ied matters way more in culvert

[unborn vale]

True you have a good IED right?

I’m at 36% after the event ended

[dire holly]

Yea.. with event I had close to 50%

Without event was around 44%?

[unborn vale]

Like it! Yes much more than me

Need another mythic flame event shop to return

[dire holly]

Since when did battle mage get voice lines????

[fiery basalt]

Hi, Noob bm just hit 200 anyone got a skill wheeel / ideal skill setup for mobbing/bossing? also want take a look V Matrix skills

[unborn vale]

It does? Are they any good

[dire holly]

It’s… kinda annoying to hear lol

You hear the character grunting every time you use fb

[unborn vale]

I have all sound off so i never knew if we had a voice or not

[unborn vale]

Any tips for solo V Hilla?

Or V Hilla in general

Avoid attacks and hold down FB?

[dire holly]

I’ve never committed to trying to solo her, nor have I ran with a group

But I will say that you will want to take off sweeping staff from your preset

It’ll be a dps loss, but it’s more important that you have the ability to freely teleport when necessary

I don’t think I need to say this but timing your bursts + iframes is so important now

You can probably get a solid 25 seconds or so of burst in from shield, ethereal, and the stun vskill (erda something).

I’m not too familiar with the different attack rotations at different phases, but that’s also something to look at when considering when to utilize your burst

[unborn vale]

Good tip on the sweeping staff that’s definitely going to help

[sharp sable]

I think should be fine with sweeping staff, just don't cast it if you see threads spawning

[sharp sable]

Avoid threads at all costs

Stun the skull move, or the lotus/damien summon if you get to p3/p4

[unborn vale]

I didn’t know this until recently

[sharp sable]

Probably the most important thing to dodge

[unborn vale]

I should be able to get close to solo if i practice

[sharp sable]

All cure the blue/stun move

Or might get pushed into theeads

[unborn vale]

Let’s see how i get on now

Thank you bro

[sharp sable]

Not sure if rotation is the same in solo but this is it for multi

Green - stand in front for safe zone
Purple - stand behind for safe zone

P1 is pretty ez
P2 just memorize the whole sequence, because P3 is just P2 + a lotus summon/blue stun/green spikes at the end, and P4 is P3 + a Damien summon at the end

Good luck sir

Oops I sent lotus twice:

[unborn vale]

This is excellent

[unborn vale]

I think I’m not strong enough for it yet

Only just to half hp at 5min

[sharp sable]

Sounds like u just needa boss rush

Jkjk

[unborn vale]

Def ignore too low maybe

[sharp sable]

Apparently minimum is 120m for normal solo, 170m for hard solo

[unborn vale]

I’m close though

121m mdc 36% def ignore

[sharp sable]

O ye def ignore on the lower end

[unborn vale]

Never any mythic flames in event shop

[sharp sable]

Time to buy packages

[unborn vale]

😭

[unborn vale]

120 min is 130 for bam? 😂

[unborn vale]

Getting there..

[dire holly]

What mdc/ied?

[unborn vale]

126/36%

Need more ied

[dire holly]

Do you cap fb without burst?

I think that’s my downfall right now

[unborn vale]

Don’t think so

It seems to be pretty weak

🤣

V6 maybe fixes it

[dire holly]

Hmmm

I have pretty similar mdc to you (slightly lower) but higher ied

Guess I just gotta practice it more

Or wait for 6th job for an easier time lol

You probably need 1-2 more minutes to pass?

[unborn vale]

Yea definitely, when the burst is on the hp is going down nice

[unborn vale]

I think even a minute or so for the next v1 cycle etc

As we can do shield/ethereal/stun for basically 30s non stop burst

Ill have another go today anyway

[pseudo solstice]

Could anyone share their AB skill wheel for pre-200? Asking for an alt with no pets

[dawn python]

Just battle burst

Plus dark genesis I guess for a bit of aoe.

[lean jasper]

how is bam damage wise?

[unborn vale]

Good on certain bosses that are always able to be hit (as our burst is so long)

Worse on moving bosses

[lean jasper]

Compared to the other mages how does it fair?

[unborn vale]

I think mid but the party shield iframe is very useful

And our mobility is the best

Apparently the 6th job skill BaM has is one of the best too

[lean jasper]

I wasnt a fan of kanna, and lynn felt clunky to me

and my guild im in has a bunch of bishops

[unborn vale]

Yea i would say we are definitely not clunky

And animations are very cool (get cooler after the Jan update)

[lean jasper]

Your bossing wheel in pins is still the same?

and can i know what you use for ab

[unborn vale]

I made very minor changes i can send updated one and AB later

[lean jasper]

If you wouldnt mind

[unborn vale]

https://tenor.com/view/i-got-you-thumbs-up-good-great-excellent-gif-12640146

[unborn vale]

First one is my AB, then second is bossing with the presets i’ve got setup

[lean jasper]

Thank you!

[lean jasper]

Whats the skill under the remove? for AB

[unborn vale]

Oh my bad

Thats finishing blow/sweeping staff in preset

[lean jasper]

im not 170 yet sadly i just made mine today

but will swap it in asap

[cosmic ice]

imean, lynn is the best mage byfar msm/ms cant get better than that

[unborn vale]

https://tenor.com/view/the-simpsons-homer-simpson-thats-a-damn-lie-and-you-know-it-gif-7563099348111511780

[paper basalt]

Fun is better than best

[cosmic ice]

playing an self-healing 5 iframes good mobility with ridiculous burst is fun 😉

[lean jasper]

What aura do yall use when auto battling

@unborn vale

[unborn vale]

Ive been using yellow/speed

Get around faster

[lean jasper]

Cuz I’m burning pots like crazy in 147

[unborn vale]

I wanted to try to red recently to see if it uses less hp pots

[lean jasper]

My current gear

I haven’t gotten lucky with boss drops for accessories yet

So that could also be a thing for missing dmg hp etc etc

[unborn vale]

Since the recent rebalance we definitely burn loads of hp pots, before that i always had to sell them after auto battle

If you can get your weapon to mythic with the rank up stones it will help with killing quicker too

[cosmic ice]

Is that a meso farmer or a first/2nd main?

If it's a meso farmer, bam are terrible for that cause. We consuming alot of pots, with not that great of a map clear compared to other classes (got slightly better after v2 change but still)

If you aim for bossing and putting work on this bam- sell these fooders and start worton proper gear.
Muspell hat&gloves jhain/pensalir weapon and aim for neceo'ing it (or buy complete one) .
Look for proper nooby gearup progression guides cuz else you will waste alot of time and mesos/money .

[lean jasper]

What’s the perfect trios for nodes ?

[unborn vale]

Finishing blow / condemnation / sweeping staff / dark genesis / dark shock / battle burst (if you want)

First two are most important

For damage

[lean jasper]

So just find a mixture with those 2 plus a third?

[unborn vale]

Probably would try to get a combo of the first 3 initially

[lean jasper]

Okay bet

[unborn vale]

Then the other 3 as second priority

Depending how lucky you are pulling nodes

[lean jasper]

How many trios should I have? Some classes I seen use 3 others use 6

[unborn vale]

4 for us (2 lots of each 3)

Not as bad as some like FP mage

🤣

[lean jasper]

Initially want the first 3 then mix it up for the other 3?

[cosmic ice]

did they recently disable our v4 from being able to be triggred by commanmd chain? i just realized ihavent been casting v4 in bosses the whole day cuz of that

this

[unborn vale]

Yes it must be, i had to fiddle my preset and put v4 alone in the skill wheel

[dire holly]

Works fine for me

[unborn vale]

Sorry mine only doesn’t work in the auto casting preset, it feels a bit quicker to get all the buffs on that way than to hold down

[cosmic ice]

Yeah the auto cast isn't working for v4. It's also says that when you try to-reconfigure it

Used to work for few months no idea what made them change this.

[dire holly]

Was there something I didn’t know about? I have all of mine in a preset and it casts one by one just fine

[unborn vale]

I think it works on preset of you have the hold down button one, but weirdly it doesn’t work in the single tap multi cast preset

V4 that is

I was doing some testing to see what casts everything fastest and realised the other day

[dire holly]

So toggle on doesn't work right?

[unborn vale]

Will check again

[dawn python]

Anyone notice a major dps loss in ark multi and mu lung today? I used to be able to clear ark multi unbuffed solo around 40s but now can’t. And mu lung fl40 is taking 2x as long. I checked skills nodes and ds4. No change from yesterday. Nor gear change.

[dawn python]

I want to say it’s ied related since easier bosses or ghb doesn’t seem to have been affected.

But my ied didn’t change from before either.

[unborn vale]

Haven’t done these yet actually!

[dire holly]

Event buffs maybe

I can clear floor 44 now

[unborn vale]

🐳

[dire holly]

Not consistently yet

[dire holly]

Probably due to that bug or whatever that’s been discussed recently in regards to how v4 and other buffs on a preset are used

[dawn python]

I don’t use command setting. In the preset I press through them one by one. Are you saying that v4 isn’t even being triggered when I have it in a preset?

[unborn vale]

I want to see the vhilla solo

I did a video of my recent attempt

LF tips

https://youtu.be/2tzGY8K4e70?feature=shared

[dire holly]

It’s only if you have that command toggle thing on I think.

[dire holly]

Haven’t even tried to solo. I think my off burst dmg is too weak to solo

[unborn vale]

Yea man the off burst really shows here

On burst we are great but as soon as v1/4 go off its like slapping the boss with a wet pasta

Hoping 6th job might help?

[dire holly]

Yea it kind of turns me off from wanting to attempt vhilla before 6th job just because it’ll probably be a time crunch given my stats

6th will definitely help

[unborn vale]

At least will be easy with 6th

This was my best run

Got unlucky with some skulls timing..

[dire holly]

Yea will solo shouldn’t be too bad

Yea.. I think we have somewhat similar stats so I don’t dare to attempt it

Although I probably should get the practice in because I don’t know the attack patterns lol

I think if you had a near perfect run you’d probably be able to beat it given the lives you’ve burned through

[unborn vale]

I lost 3 skulls from bad timing 🤣

One death

Didnt get altar in time

[dire holly]

Oof

Altar is optional isn’t it?

Only to be used at low hp right?

[unborn vale]

Yea basically, i thought i had time to clear all red skulls by eating 3/5 lines

Timed wrong but oh well

Need some mythic flames in event shop

[dire holly]

I guess you gotta take advantage of the event buffs while it’s here

[unborn vale]

Yea I’ll try again this week

[dire holly]

You got this!

[dawn python]

Still dps loss for me and doesn’t seem like v4 related.

In mu lung and ark multi

[cosmic ice]

its you ,nothing chaged dps wise

prob missing smthing in your gear.

[dawn python]

I might have stumbled on the reason. Will confirm tomorrow. Seems like fair trade might have been off the last two days.

[dawn python]

Confirmed. My ft wasn’t on. Now back to normal.

[unborn vale]

Oh no 😂

That’s so annoying

[lean jasper]

whats fair trade?

im not 200 yet srry

[lean jasper]

Do y’all use the command on any presets?

[unborn vale]

Its a buff you get with a necro weapon that gives 100% crit rate

[unborn vale]

I do for our buffs after 200

Recent change so im still testing it

[lean jasper]

Gotcha

[unborn vale]

@outer crane

Do you cap when v1 is off?

[outer crane]

Let me check

[unborn vale]

My ‘off burst’ is so weak for finishing blow

Struggling to finish normal vhilla solo for dps

[outer crane]

With hyper skill yes
After hyper skill is over it’s a disaster

🥲

[unborn vale]

Oh dam ok

Similar problem then

[unborn vale]

Dam 203, you are 220+ mdc?

Finishing blow is a problem 😭

[outer crane]

You mean cap?

[unborn vale]

Dam nice

[cosmic ice]

You cast them off "burst"?
Was thinking about it , didn't have time to check

[unborn vale]

Did it

[dawn python]

Damn you have >100k hp on me.

[unborn vale]

My hat gives a lot!

[cosmic ice]

damn she has "only" 5.5b?

[unborn vale]

It felt like a lot more with finishing blow so weak 🤣

[unborn vale]

But i have noticed from my vhilla troubles.. other class can clear solo normal with 105/106m cap and i just managed with 130m

The dps when v1 is down is so low

[dire holly]

Video coming up?

I tried just now and was able to get it down to about 1/4 with roughly 3 minutes left. If I was more familiar with the attack rotation I might be able to clear it as well

[unborn vale]

Luckily first try yesterday i did get on video

https://youtu.be/RN2H8iw32Hk?feature=shared

Very chaotic ending 🤣

[cosmic ice]

yeah these ratios are pretty much the same towards all the bosses

[lean jasper]

@unborn vale Can i see your post 200 skill wheels for ab and bossing?

Also can i see your vmatrix?

or @dire holly @cosmic ice either of yall

for the above

[unborn vale]

I can in a bit sure

[lean jasper]

I ended up pulling this one

[lean jasper]

Also what decent skills do i need

[lean jasper]

Also i don't understand... Why do you put the buff preset on your AB bar if they cant be used in AB?

[unborn vale]

Lazy with my wheel

They are all on pets for AB

[lean jasper]

So no point in having it on the bar right?

[unborn vale]

No not for AB for sure

[lean jasper]

I threw them on pet as well for my AB preset

[unborn vale]

But cant have multiple presets in the skill section so dont want to change them around 😅

[lean jasper]

gotchu lol

if you can tho send me your AB and bossing preset post 200 if its updated from the last one you sent

@unborn vale

[lean jasper]

Do yall put the auras on your pet as well or auto set them before going on AB?

[unborn vale]

Same as the last one still

[unborn vale]

I’ve got red aura and v1 on pets for AB, and then weakening aura on pet for bossing when we manually do v1

[lean jasper]

Whats "v1" and so on

I never really understrood that

and red aura over the dmg aura ?

[unborn vale]

Depends if you need the damage for AB, but red aura stops me having to buy potions 🤣

[unborn vale]

V1 - Aura scythe
V2 - altar of annihilation
V3 - grim harvest
V4 - abyssal lightning

[lean jasper]

ty

[lean jasper]

1 last question.... Do you put any of the other preset buffs on pets when auto battling or just V1?

[cosmic ice]

Won't help you seeing maxed vmatrix. You got 2 sets of nodes you will be maxing to 60 in 4 slots.
What decent skills? All of them.
Ab? Won't help you since we prob maxing out damage and mobility while you prob need survivability.

Hypers- all skill damage/lines related, w.e you choose for auras/shield is personal preference depending on what you bossing behavior

[lean jasper]

What 2 sets?

[cosmic ice]

Probably pinned here

But regardless of classes , you max out all the skills and buffs you use of it make sense

TBH, we got so many empty vmatrix slots right now, you could even max out all skills and still have extra slots 😂. Just prio the main skills

[lean jasper]

So how many total trios will i need?

[cosmic ice]

.

[lean jasper]

so 4 slots which means 4 trios

How many of said sets are going to be the main 3 (finishing,sweeping,condemn)

Sorry im trying to get a better understanding of how it works so if it seems simple you to i apologize

these are the 2 trios i have now

[cosmic ice]

There's no path of "right way" your goal is to get the main 2 trios to lvl 40. Wether you can buy nodes and do it on same day or if it's a f2p no meso game play that might require you have 4 slots per trio to do so.
I would recommend looking for non-bam related vmatrix guides to understand the system.
And than read the skills description to understand the class you playing

[lean jasper]

So after i level both of these to 40 I should look for different combos for the other 2

[dawn python]

Can someone do us a favor and test out unbuffed but ft on dps comparison between v1 and fb? I have a feeling our fb is doing way less dmg than what the skill description is saying.

[dawn python]

What clue me into this is that before I can do 300b in ghb unbuffed but now I can barely do 230b unbuffed. Very strange and nothing really changed.

[unborn vale]

I will check too. Definitely agree FB (off v1) is incredibly weak

I think this skill alone stopped me beating v hilla for so long 😂

[cosmic ice]

If I remember last patch that gave us the 10 sec shield iframe also made us lose fd% gain from one of the passives

But in ghb ? Really? Really hard to not cap fully buffed there. That dummy has no def

Look at the fd% now (first ) to exactly 1 year ago, even tho we been through multiple PN's that's still a significant change (including the fact that we got more fd% from new flames and lv25 hyper stats which are new)

[dawn python]

The change I noticed is from relatively recent past like from 1 week ago vs now. I am sorta hoping that our fb is affected by a bug that’s artificially depressing our dps.

[pseudo solstice]

what skill should I use for AB pre-200? for an alt?

[cosmic ice]

Nah nothing changed in the past month

[unborn vale]

Finishing blow, sweeping staff hyper and battle burst is enough, with either red aura to stay alive or weakening aura for damage

Or yellow speed aura for farming..

[pseudo solstice]

Thank you!

[dawn python]

Yea. From the patch notes for sure. Nothing changed. I was only speaking from what I experienced. Or maybe previously I always buffed for ghb. But seemed unlikely. I did a fog forest run. Nothing jumped out at me as well.

[cosmic ice]

I'm scoring the same for like 2months (the past 50b meso gave me 0 progress sadly) between 740 to 760b .
Check your presets pets and linkskills

[viral gyro]

I want play bam if not for no free char slots this 2 months

[sonic plank]

Loving the new BaM, soloed H Archon with just 48m Mdc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fyHcb24Sf-Y

[unborn vale]

Things we like to see!

[sharp sable]

Let's goooooooo

[dawn python]

Finally figured out what my issue was with ghb recently. I’m now back at 340+b vs 220b unbuffed. Basically I started using command function on two presets that were doing the summons and other short term buffs. However command function sometimes(often) skip skills so I was missing v3 (among other things)in the run. Now solo ark multi again easily doable unbuffed vs before. What clued me in was looking at my recent ark battle analysis vs my best records.

[sharp sable]

https://tenor.com/view/tryan-trying-blocks-block-head-tryan-blocks-gif-13157134546106029566

[dire holly]

Command function was recently discussed here actually. Is that actually quicker than if it was off?

[dawn python]

I put the command on based on that discussion. It does feel a bit quicker than holding down the button. But the inconsistency in preset trigger made it worse for my own bossing efforts. So I took them off again and back to button holding.

[dire holly]

I think if you read through it more they said that it, v4, wasn’t working properly with it on

It does feel quicker, but the so-called inconsistency that you stated makes it not worth using

[dawn python]

My issue was actually v3 not triggering in the preset with command on. Anyway it was definitely buggy.

[dire holly]

What other skills do you have it with?

[dawn python]

The summons preset had v2, v3, 5% fd buff, militia. The buff preset was v1, 170 buff, v4 and some other buff that I can’t remember atm.

[cosmic ice]

when it worked, it used to be slightly quicker yeah

[dire holly]

Yea I don’t think those would technically work with command toggle on because a few of those skills (v3 and v4) have a secondary effect

Also, I find it kinda weird that you have v2 on a preset with other skills; I have it by itself

[dawn python]

V2 is first in the preset. So it will refresh first. Or I should say most of the time it is v2 in that button. Rest of the time I’m cycling through that preset. This way it saves a button space since I’m very bad at switch to next page.

I try to keep everything on same page.

[dire holly]

This seems rather inefficient for dps

Because you’re probably constantly recasting v2 and potentially missing out on dps because it hasn’t loaded an attack

[dawn python]

I only recast v2 if I need it relocated. Usually I press it once to place v2. Then when I’m bursting I will cycle through the preset. Since others in the preset have much longer cd, v2 will on the button again for relocation if needed.

[dire holly]

The problem is that v2 will always be first to cast, so when you have other skills ready to go you have to recast v2 before the others

It’s technically not a bad thing as most of your skills have a 2 minute cooldown, but militia is kind of the odd one

…. And you’re also recasting v3 from time to time too (rarely actually)

[dawn python]

Guess I haven’t really gone into long solo boss fights where I will cycle through burst multiple times. The issue you are describing would come up in those scenarios

[dire holly]

For sure yea

[cosmic ice]

you guys are ready to change from being 2min class into a 6min class :)?

[dire holly]

Huh? What happened?

[unborn vale]

The origin skill

6min cd

Assuming its same as pc and kms

[cosmic ice]

well post 6th job on pc version, some classes with low dpm and mid-low burst gotten ridiculously good origin , so people refer them to 6min classes

bam is one of them

really hope it will be this way. waiting for too long to get once again heart broken 😂

[unborn vale]

I think it’s like that for kmsm anyway

We have one of the best origin

Hopefully!

[dire holly]

So you’re saying we suck?

The only thing I’ve heard about pc bam’s 6th job is that the animation for the origin skill is quite short which allows us to get back using our main skills

But with that said, I think they were quick to nerf it?

[cosmic ice]

Nah it ain't that short . Playing bam since hexa released

BaM in both versions aren't popular for a reason 🤭

[dire holly]

[cosmic ice]

atleast its not a nerf , but kinda disapointing

[unborn vale]

Yea i thought the same, bit disappointed the finishing blow (off burst) didnt get a small buff

Excited to see the hexa condemnation, that looks sick

Huge blue flash

[cosmic ice]

tbh, i thought they would buff darkshock , thats kinda our whole origin damage??

[unborn vale]

I’m hoping it triggers v4 while hitting, as it technically should right?

We also get quite big matk uplift from weapon etc which should help us

[cosmic ice]

Either m2 or 3 will upgrade dark shock, but that alooong time from now , really doubt we could consistently cap dark shock rn with out fully buffing

[unborn vale]

I bet it will be FB then sweeping staff then shock

Or even genesis before

😭😅

[cosmic ice]

m2 is sweeping+fb m3 is dark shock m4 is gensis

[unborn vale]

Oh i see!

I guess they gonna be the next ‘big’ releases each 6 months

[dawn python]

My other chars da and phantom got absolute zilch from the rebalance. Phantom I sorta understand but da ain’t strong and pretty much a dead class.

[unborn vale]

Yea DA really gets nothing doesnt it!

We dont even have any active players in EU server

I think

[dawn python]

The only upside in playing a da is that you can get the mu lung medal since you got no competition. lol.

[unborn vale]

That’s same for me as bam in EU

Only two of us 😂

[cosmic ice]

Pff what is a competition 😂

I got the last punching king event with like 60m mdc if not less

[dawn python]

lol same. My <40m cap bam got the punching king effect too.

[snow thistle]

Are u serius?

🤡

How mucho max dmg do You think will increase with all abso lvl 40?

[dire holly]

[dire holly]

[cosmic ice]

How close were you before/how easy is it now

One unbuffed full burst

[dire holly]

Before I think I got it down to about 10-20% before timing out

After I believe I finished with roughly 5 minutes left?

One set of burst and I can get it down to nearly half

[cosmic ice]

Op

What's your stats IED/mdc rn/before

[dire holly]

Before was around 125m/46%

After was 175m/46%

mdc now is a bit higher now

[cosmic ice]

Capping majority of the lines ?

[dire holly]

Heck no lol

Off burst dmg is bad

[cosmic ice]

Fair

[dire holly]

Pretty sure with burst I can cap main skills but that's it

[cosmic ice]

Should be min.cut ish clear for me than

Does solo nvhila enough for attempting multi hard?

[dire holly]

Uhhh

I think the biggest thing is knowing the mechanics and limiting the dmg you take

So you COULD get in with the least mdc on the team as long as you know how to survive

Plus BaM shield is so good now

[unborn vale]

Dam nice

It looks like they have forgotten the accessories mdc update?

Or just me

[dire holly]

It went up a little bit

Ark pendant mdc from 8-9 goes up by like 1.5m whereas before it was 1.2m?

[unborn vale]

Oh maybe i read it wrong

I swear 6* item said like 6 or 8m mdc

I’ll re read

[dire holly]

Yea I saw something like that too

10* was suppose to be around 15m?

[unborn vale]

We are basically the same mdc now! You have more ied still

[dire holly]

What's your mdc now?

[unborn vale]

177 i think

Calculated it would be more but maybe missed something

[dire holly]

I'm around 186m now

And I still have 16 armor exalts to go until they're all lvl 50+

[unborn vale]

Dam nice

I was 134 before update

[dire holly]

Roughly the same for me

I was...

125m and jumped to around 170m

[unborn vale]

I just got another 5 my free exalt worked

[dire holly]

NICE!

All the changes to exalting is quite nice

[unborn vale]

One more and this hat will be level 70

[dire holly]

Pull out the wallet!

[cosmic ice]

MB, worded it badly
Is clearing solo normal vhila will be enough to unlocked multi hard vhila (to get carried)?

[dire holly]

No

You have to do multi normal to unlock multi hard

[cosmic ice]

Sadge so no point attempting it I guess

[unborn vale]

Hard solo Hilla incoming

Give me an hour

[dire holly]

Glgl

[dire holly]

Not true. If you are good with the mechanics you can probably get into a normal multi run

[cosmic ice]

Yeah I meant theres no point in doing normal solo runs

[unborn vale]

Anyone unlocked their mastery node yet?

It doesnt look any different

[cosmic ice]

Erda energy is the issue

[unborn vale]

Our reaper meant to do this with mastery no?

[dire holly]

It was a weird issue I was dealing with last night

So try unequiping your condemnation off of the pet bar and then adding it back in

Cc’ing may help also

If that doesn’t work then there’s a buff skill in the lvl 1 tab that, when used manually, should fix the issue

[unborn vale]

Yes!!

Amazing it look sick

[dire holly]

It does!

[unborn vale]

Thank you

Ready for after work now

[dire holly]

You got this!

[unborn vale]

Classic first try in practice mode

After flailing around wasting buffs a few times

[dire holly]

How much time was left?

[unborn vale]

Like 3mins or so

[dire holly]

Oh not bad!

[unborn vale]

I was being cautious too

[dire holly]

So I could do it too

[unborn vale]

Definitely

[dire holly]

Yea I think playing cautious is the way to go

[unborn vale]

Basically wait for the 2min reset

Get that 20s iframe back

[dire holly]

I had like 5 minutes left on normal but only had 3 lives left

Yea

The iframes are so good

On top of the two stuns we now have

[unborn vale]

The hard took a while to get used to with the extra speed

[dire holly]

Is there an attack rotation or is it all just random?

[unborn vale]

Same as normal

Just hits harder

[dire holly]

I don’t even know what normal is and I passed LOL

[unborn vale]

To be honest as we can teleport while attacking it feels less important

Nice to knows when that little tornado thing is happening as thats a pain

[dire holly]

The blue stun attack always gets me also

[cosmic ice]

Gartz

First clear or already cleared multi earlier ?

[unborn vale]

Havent done multi before only normal solo

[cosmic ice]

Time to get the pendant 🤩

[unborn vale]

3 weeks to go hopefully

[unborn vale]

Later than lunch time but got it

[dire holly]

Grats! Now go get your role!

[sharp sable]

https://tenor.com/view/all-that-is-meaningless-now-jimmy-elvis-the-alien-none-of-it-matters-anymore-it's-all-rendered-meaningless-gif-7120359863057988750

[dire holly]

🤣

[cosmic ice]

9min~

[cosmic ice]

i dont understand how the DG and alter hit that much above all other skills , and how the min dmage of abysall lightining gets that low..

finishimh blow also got 103... ???????

[unborn vale]

Good work!!

[unborn vale]

I think this gets like a shade split effect with the summons

[cosmic ice]

wdym

[unborn vale]

Like it adds the damage dealt to the summon to your main damage

Maybe i dont know for sure

[cosmic ice]

im wondering if maybe not casting v1 with origin could be better

but dealing with non matching cd's could be annoying

[unborn vale]

Oh you def need v1 on for origin

The extra stat boost from v1

It made about a 40k difference in Culvert when i casted origin before v1

[cosmic ice]

when you casted it ":before" it was before advanced maplewarrior & hyper as well ?

i speaking only about v1, since we will miss close to 7 sec of not using the extra lines out of it

[unborn vale]

Yea this too

[cosmic ice]

yeah thats alot more

[unborn vale]

Good point actually need to test that

[cosmic ice]

advanced MW is 40% FD

[dire holly]

My v4 min dmg got pretty low as well

Could be when she spawn ads but not sure

Your min dmg is quite good

[cosmic ice]

i got a 1.6m mdc soul on my weapon, really considering swaping it to a will magic atk% one as soon as i unlock the mdc from hexa stat.. i think its the end of an era for the mdc soul meta

im not really sure how its really calculated in the damage formula ,
but 1.6m mdc now is really minimal. and 22% m.att is like 10% of my total m.atk% i got rn , feels like its more gains + the extra flat m.att from the soul set effect

[unborn vale]

Definitely worth considering now - like you said 1-2m is pretty small gain for mdc especially if we gonna get 10-20+ m mdc from hexa stat

Will help more with our finishing blow weakness

[cosmic ice]

a chill attempt on practice mode hard vhila actully feels like i can do it even before hexa stat

[unborn vale]

Nice! Thats looking good and before the second origin hit right?

[cosmic ice]

yeah 1 min cd for the big burst

prob will get it close to the 50%

i might be able to clear her now if i rock a perfect 10min and be greedy on dpm, but def will be doable as soon as i open the hexa stat

[unborn vale]

Yea for sure , it’s a satisfying boss to clear!

Bam has the power (for 40 seconds) 🤣

[cosmic ice]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4LUXsrrMFug got hella tilted by this run ngl,
also look how terrible the high ping delay is ... the way its work on this game only the animation is displayed in delay , the actual damage is already dealt before the animation is done 😤

they have systems to fix that issue in pc version but prob didnt bother on mobile.. yikes.

last time i uploaded the insta death on will p3 video they added mini iframe after reviving a week after 🤭 maybe time to complain again

[unborn vale]

Frustrating! I sometimes get this at certain times in evenings

[cosmic ice]

Yeah.. that extra candel f'ed a pretty decent run

[cosmic ice]

You guys decided to upgrade any of the bottom left side of the hexa skills ?
Unless there's some added lines or smithing I cap with all the vmatrix skills

[unborn vale]

I opened v1 just to see in case it was duration

But i think they are all just final damage

[cosmic ice]

where do yall grind and whats your unbuffed kill/h ?
mine is roughly 12-12.5k/h and abit higher if i buff

[unborn vale]

You solo’ing?

I havent done solo yet

About 8.5/hour in duo

[cosmic ice]

yeah much more efficent hexa wise

also saw somwere people saying other's kills wont get you drops

[unborn vale]

[cosmic ice]

not sure how true that is, but thats enoiugh for me to full solo in drop gear

[dawn python]

You probably need a long run to smooth out the drop rng. Something like 10hrs straight.

So far I have been doing duo.

But only 4/hr without mpets and 45 dr. 75 dr gets me around 5/hr. but that’s only half of what you are showing there. I think mpet should net you 33% higher than me all else being equal.

[viral gyro]

@dire holly @dire gazelle what's your ver of hyper skill distribution for your bam

[dire gazelle]

Non shield

And minus blue aura

[sonic plank]

[unborn vale]

https://tenor.com/view/e-boy-gif-112987497394211353

[sonic plank]

best class https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-vVJ39WCols

[dire holly]

[unborn vale]

Nicely done!

I was stressing at the end until you dropped the shield down

[cosmic ice]

Ayo chill you will get us nerfed

Gartz🔥

[cosmic ice]

I just did 15k/h kills in sf 20 soloing buffed , wonder how much more we can reach fully buffed 🤔
But F yeah well deserved, we waited for this for too long

[unborn vale]

Do we have any wisdom on what to upgrade after finishing hexa stats?

Condemnation or origin?

[cosmic ice]

Depends if you cap or not

I would add to v1 v3 v2 v4 in that order if I'm not capping

Sadly got shafted 🥲 so still easly capping

[unborn vale]

Ah nightmare, i’m only one higher than this at 90m

275 total i need to do some testing

[cosmic ice]

90 was my settle goal
if you 275m mdc im pretty sure you should be atleast unlocking all booster nodes first (bottom left)

need to really drill down and make an efficiency table for frags/energy > gain ratios.
kinda harder when you need to take in mind damage cap unlike in pc . prob wont be able to make a proper global "guide"

[unborn vale]

Yea nothing clear yet

Need to save a chunk up and upgrade in one go to feel the benefit

[cosmic ice]

oh i mean you def can forsee the upgrade of each its pretty clear, but making a whole path is a on a diff level

i dont see that big of a vlue of leveling condemation early, the scaling isnt great and its base value is 6-8% after unlocking at lv 1

biggest hitting vmatrix skill is v2

[unborn vale]

Only 3% per level up too

[cosmic ice]

so if you aint capping v2 you prio that till you do

talking about long 5+ min bossing runs + mobbing

[unborn vale]

Yea i think try to push origin to level 10 is the biggest gain

But huge resource

[cosmic ice]

the thing is you need to see the gain and how much time/resources it cost

[unborn vale]

It’s a ton 🤣 like done at Christmas type

Unless they do some event

[cosmic ice]

unlockking boosters will def have much more value than slowly upgrading origin to 10 (will be energy capped anyways)

based on pc, the only events are on hexa stats

now i gotta redo on page 2 of hexa stats 🥲
but anyway is a luxury on my side, im already clearing vhila and the next boss is too far to be considered till i get proper hexa stats

[unborn vale]

Yea feel like 2nd page is a future thing when we have ‘spare’ frags

I won’t be touching for a while

[cosmic ice]

depends on charcther. i need more mdc , you dont

[unborn vale]

I need more power now🤣

[cosmic ice]

im capping so it make no sense if i add more damage

[unborn vale]

Yea fair, what are you at now?

Hvilla is still nails i think

[cosmic ice]

180? mayybe slightly higher

hvhila is a reliable clear now so thats why im not worried

[unborn vale]

Awesome

I got my necklace last night

3rd clear

R pot 😅 but triple line

[cosmic ice]

i should be getting mine this week if we able to clear with our new pt

[unborn vale]

Awesome

[cosmic ice]

last 20b i sent over my lynn tho, time to get her nvhila ready. seems doable now

[unborn vale]

Respect, having hilla alt would be mega

[cosmic ice]

will be an HARD carry lol , but the FD% and iframes she provides are pretty decent for parties so it aint like 100% leeching

rng aint on my side regadless of what i play tho 😂

[unborn vale]

Respect though 1.4tn nothing to be sniffed at!

I don’t think EU server has any strong Lynns

Haven’t seen the party power yet

[cosmic ice]

She's does more, but the party was hella strong couldn't fit the bursts in 😂

In A2 we got a bunch , that's a pretty good class rn.
Aparty HP shield, 2 party heals , party cleanse , 2 party iframes and FD% for carry

And a heavy burst all fitting in the ds4 timer

[unborn vale]

Giving c lucid a go

Messing up p2 with cleanses

[cosmic ice]

you know you can "zoom out" with the screen view

to be able to see more of the map

[unborn vale]

This is mac out