Mercedes

[worn sigil]

Post level 200 is where bossing really takes off and Mercedes is prefect for that

[spiral basalt]

@hardy hill how does acorn tree work?

I have ds4 on but my score is horrible

[hardy hill]

idk I just do what I do on ark and it gave the result

[spiral basalt]

Do u always start out from p1?

[hardy hill]

I buff, do ishtar for a bit then v3 and keep ishtar for the rest of the time

[spiral basalt]

Yea it’s weird my score seems low

[hardy hill]

idk maybe I got more ignore def than you, or you're not buffed

or both

[spiral basalt]

I’m buffed

Yea but I have 15 ied

And I’m 5k score behind

[hardy hill]

idk then

I do 11k unbuffed

[spiral basalt]

Even my Evan I feel like I got low score

But what’s ur mdc

[hardy hill]

24.2

[spiral basalt]

My Evan is 30m n do 12k unbuff

[shrewd prism]

whats ordermax skill v3/v1/v4/v2?

[hardy hill]

v3 > v1 = v2 > v4

[keen hearth]

anyone ready for 6th job?

[upper basin]

Hey I am planning to burn an archer for the next patch, thinking between Mercedes or Marksman; Is Mercedes horrible to farm with but good at boss?

This is what I understood from reading a bit from here

[keen hearth]

we have like 2 or 3 mobs skills with cd...

[keen hearth]

is a main or alt ?

[upper basin]

alt ..potentially making into a boss mule

[spiral basalt]

Merc isn’t a good bossing mule

Are u looking for a daily boss mule or weekly w bosses like lotus n Damien too?

[upper basin]

just daily for now

why isn';t Merc a good bossing mule? Hard to play I am guessing?

haha just wanna learn

[spiral basalt]

Req a lot of funding to cap

[upper basin]

i see...thanks for info

[keen hearth]

This is true..

[hardy hill]

more than just to cap, req a lot of funding just to survive

[keen hearth]

Any b4 and after photos mdc?

[fleet stone]

Dino >>>> princess

[keen hearth]

Or mercedes version of @fleet stone

[fleet stone]

LOVE IT

[hardy hill]

I got 5m mdc on mine, but forgot to screenshot

[restive junco]

Should i get tjis since i got weopen or wht should i go for first in mercedes

[fringe marsh]

Anyone has the pre-200 bossing and AB skills setup?

[hardy hill]

just scroll up this channel, been psoted many times, didn't change since then

[hardy hill]

overall is last priority because you wanna use top/bottom to level up

[crude crown]

Anyone have a link to a recent Mercedes POV of Lotus and higher bosses?

[keen hearth]

H/nDamien more of calls (blue balls and blink) , I haven't done lucid/will/gloomy yet

[crude crown]

Hmm

I was wondering more how you center V skills around the boss's mechanics

If that matters at all ?

[spiral basalt]

Just line up your v3 with ds4. The rest don’t matter and more about understanding boss mechanic

[crude crown]

Ah okay ! Thank you 🙏

[hardy hill]

Mercedes 6th job

[keen hearth]

If you're +235, archid reflection is good for more dps

Been busy video posted

[hardy hill]

so only ishtar on octopus

[keen hearth]

Basically move octopus as far toward one side, v4 or archid reflection (only +235 lvl can use it and ONLY one skill back ground can be used) then v3 (make sure youre on platform little bit above octupus), wait for animation for v4 or archid reflection is done, then use the other skill until time run out. ALWAYS use Ishtar for attacking

[keen hearth]

I kinda messed up v4 and archid reflection together

[bronze patrol]

does anyone have a decent farming wheel for < 175?

mainly for surviving sf105

alt char

[hardy hill]

that's what I do for opening but from experience it's better to use the combo on cd for more dmg

[spiral basalt]

I concur w this. U honestly can make a specific preset for multi ghb with ishstar, spike, and wrath of enlil. I never try that hard but that’s the optimal one for us.

Perhaps equip your boost nodes for spike n wrath too and sacrifice two decent buff or other skill since it’s extremely easy to cap in ghb

[hardy hill]

I just tried that, got 525

[spiral basalt]

I never got 525 before but also never try that hard before. I just theory craft those things

[hardy hill]

well I got more v slots too so I could put both in and still keep my other useful buffs

[hollow shadow]

Hey im lvl150 anybody have preset to me pls ?🙏🏼

[median walrus]

u have patch notes for other jobs?

[hardy hill]

On kmsm board there's everything

[median walrus]

Mind linking me?

[hardy hill]

Think that's this https://forum.nexon.com/maplestorym/board_list?board=1215&pageNo=1

Now you gotta dig and translate the images that interest you

[hollow shadow]

Ab someone?

[keen hearth]

@hollow shadow

[hollow shadow]

Only this?

[keen hearth]

@hollow shadow

[hollow shadow]

I’m lvl140

Not have hyper

[keen hearth]

Use everything minus the hyper lol

[hollow shadow]

Ok thanks 😅🙏🏼

[balmy glacier]

Hi guys, need an ab wheel for lv200+ along with Vmatrix guidance, any help apprecaited.

[keen hearth]

@balmy glacier +lvl 200 ab wheel doesn't change

[balmy glacier]

thanks

[crimson orchid]

recommended gear set?

muspell hat, eclectic body, grand ipos gloves, noble shoulder, eclectic shoes, and sirius cape (or bloody cape)?

[keen hearth]

lvl 50 necro/absolab

[upper basin]

Full absolab60 ofcz :pepelaugh

[narrow lake]

Guys what are the recommended hyper passive? I took all 3 ishtar, 2 armor break for horse and spike. But feeling like my damage is kinda off. Should I reset the point and get 1 for ignis roar reinforce?

[keen hearth]

3 more lvl 50 pieces to go

[upper basin]

OP. im poor so i am going Inherit-Chaso50

[keen hearth]

you got this 🙏

[upper basin]

haha if I dont get a pass within the first 3 tries then its gg

[ionic heath]

5% 💀

[stark ermine]

just 3 trio for mercs? also can u share the skill wheel for AB pls? my merc is so fragile in ab maps.

[keen hearth]

@stark ermine

2nd perfect trio

[stark ermine]

thank you! can you share the skill wheel too pls?

[keen hearth]

@stark ermine

[stark ermine]

Thank you! that's for AB ya ?>

can see the presets?

[keen hearth]

Yes

[hardy hill]

do you use the lv235 Will skill for bossing too? (I'm reaching 235 real soon so wondering if I need to plan to unlock a new V matrix slot)

[keen hearth]

Yes

[hardy hill]

rip 1b meso I don't have to unlock new slot

[keen hearth]

you can use v4 & will skill together

[hardy hill]

nice

it'll be in my buff bar then

buff macro

I just need to open the 15th slot for it

lol

hmm or maybe use it over DSI

[crude crown]

1 bil damn

[hardy hill]

oh it's 967m now that I leveled

but the one after is probably 1.3b

[keen hearth]

[hardy hill]

I don't think I really need more than 15 slots anyway

or actually maybe 16

[shadow cloak]

Are stunning strikes and elemental knights important for bossing? I focused on Isthar ring, wrath and spike for my perfect trio node.

For AB, Lightning, spike and wraths works for me

[spiral basalt]

Yep , stunning strike , elemental knight, and ishstar are main bossing trio

[shadow cloak]

Okay thanks!

[unique fog]

Does leveling up Sylvidia increase its duration?

[spiral basalt]

Yes

[keen hearth]

Yes^

[fickle tulip]

I already maxed out my job V-Skills, do I still need to get decent skills and erda skills?

[spiral basalt]

Not erda

But I’d open the slot n equip decent combat order n speed infusion

[fickle tulip]

is it also good to max rope lift for passive p. atk?

also, is decent sharp eyes good?

[hardy hill]

that's like what you do end game when all your boost nodes and v skills are lv25 and you got nothing else to do

you need a slot for defense smash 4 too

I'd unlock 3 slots, get a 3rd trio lv10 and put all v skills on lv5 slot, and use the remaining 2 slots for DS4 and decent HB

[stark ermine]

so unicon isnt needed in the trio?

[dry flint]

Unicorn is needed, but not in the bossing trio. Ideally, Ishtar-StunningStrike-ElementalKnight trio for bossing + Unicorn-SpikesRoyale-WrathofEnlil Trio for farming. For people who lacks Matrix slots you can swap between the two using only 2 slots instead of 4. But ultimately you will want them all.

Also, there are Merc who actually use Leaf Tornado as tri-core as well. While it is not mainstream in MSM currently, it might become the meta when Hexa-skills get release eventually as it is in MaplePC.

[shadow cloak]

I use lightning for farming

[keen hearth]

The arm and leg for unlocking

[fickle tulip]

I'm having hard time with Lechelein arcane river, any tip?

[keen hearth]

90% hp pet

[fickle tulip]

The weekly arcane river

dream defender

[dry flint]

This has been brought up before.
Tldr: This dungeon is not worth the time and effort.
But if you really want to give it a try learning the dungeon, you can refer to the video linked here previously.
#1059994632597028864 message

[fickle tulip]

I'll check it out. Thank you

[hardy hill]

the way to do this dungeon:

• Open the Arcane River Dungeon menu
• Look at Dream Defender, then look at left of it
• Do muto

repeat that until you reach lv225

[dense jetty]

Hi all!
is this a good AB wheel pre 170?

[dense jetty]

ok I found one,#1059994632597028864 message

it was close enough.

[fleet breach]

Hello any new ab rotation for post 200? (mobbing)

[keen hearth]

Add v4 to skill for aoe skill if +235 use will skill

@fleet breach

[keen hearth]

You guys ready for the updated? @hardy hill @dry flint @spiral basalt

[hardy hill]

sure, but pretty sure we only get some more lines on training skills

[keen hearth]

[hardy hill]

#1059994632597028864 message
this

[keen hearth]

[hardy hill]

we'll see tomorrow if it merge with more recent balance

[dry flint]

Feels nothing much if it really is just those changes. Our attack speed is still slow and Vskills down-time too long. Skill-chaining is still forever clunky due to long animation and can never work like MaplePC if they don't ever fix it.

Kmsm latest patch has changes to our Hyper Passive from Spike and Unicorn to Roar and Watershield, that might also be what we get in this "rebalance."

[dry flint]

Elemental Knight was also changed from a summon skill to a buff, which means it no longer need to be recast every time we change maps in boss fights since the pet will auto-cast

[hardy hill]

annnnnd we get a nerf

[hardy hill]

I was expecting a buff to our aoe setup, so better job at aoe GHB, but nope

only thing we get is some passive and 25% less dmg on ishtar

[keen hearth]

We are cooked

[nimble mango]

Wait what why they reduce Ishter dmg

[keen hearth]

@nimble mango

[nimble mango]

They want Merc to be "I hit 1 target only" class

[hardy hill]

they should buff ishtar then

[keen hearth]

But reduce summoning spirit atk speed

[hardy hill]

but more hits

oh they were doing 2x 5

now 1x 11

[nimble mango]

Hope its good in overall aftet patch

[hardy hill]

yo

they even nerfed spike

our multi ghb will be worst

passive are only 10% c.dmg

[keen hearth]

We dont even have good mobbing skills but long cd

[hardy hill]

they better bring 6th job fast with 3 line per ishtar then

[left sinew]

Why'd they nerf Ishtar

[hardy hill]

time for some feedbacks in the channel

[left sinew]

New watershield hypers seem good but not sure it's worth the tradeoff on the pts I have already on the ishtar and ignis ones.

[hardy hill]

we would need more passive points to use it

right now the 5 we use are good, the new ignis roar is nice but not enough points to use it

so no points for shield either

we really need to send feedback about this patch on how it's bad

[left sinew]

Is guided arrow still trash after this?

[hardy hill]

will need to test

I'll try it after maintenance in ark to see

technically it's more hits

[spiral basalt]

I’m rr from merc

This is nuts

I guess sit tight n see how 6th job changes ishstar

It could be op by then

I was not expecting a skill dmg % reductkon in ishstar at all. That’s so dumb

[hardy hill]

elemental knight is a buff, 1 more knight and they each hit 11 times at 220%

mercedes = sumonner class!

elemental knight is already doing 16% of my damage, it'll be like 20 now

if not more

[spiral basalt]

Yea

It’ll be a good buff

I hope this is in anticipation of 6th job

Coz don’t forget, these are newest kmsm changes, and kmsm got 6th job

So perhaps the new ishstar bonus is so high they are pre-nerfing ishstat

[hardy hill]

I just wanted the buffs to our aoe skills for GHB

but they totally skipped it

[spiral basalt]

Will see. 6th job mastery core for ishstarI’m pretty sure is it’s own skill right?

[keen hearth]

Do we know the requirements for 6th job?

@spiral basalt @hardy hill what was your current mdc?

[hardy hill]

36.4. Will be 42 after update

[hardy hill]

lv250

[spiral basalt]

45

[hardy hill]

send me some of your gears you don,t need it, you got other characters

[spiral basalt]

[keen hearth]

I'm at 40

[spiral basalt]

U struggling to cap too I’m sure on elemental knight and final attack. It’s such a pain

Final attack I understand. Most classes have them at their lower skill dmg. But geez elemental knight should cap already

[keen hearth]

What your def ignore?

[keen hearth]

Yeah

[spiral basalt]

13%

;)$

[keen hearth]

12%

[spiral basalt]

Yea we low buddy

[keen hearth]

I went up 10mil mdc

[hardy hill]

must be nice, I only got 6.2

[crude crown]

Did anyone get a reset coupon

Hyper passive reset coupon

[left sinew]

Just tested guided arrow and it only did 1.3% of total dmg. Mine's only lvl 12 tho

[hardy hill]

yup it suck

not even 1% in a 30sec ark

[keen hearth]

@spiral basalt how much u got?

[keen hearth]

I'm behind in legion

[hardy hill]

and you got 10m mdc?

I hate you too

[spiral basalt]

For ?

[keen hearth]

Increase of mdc

[dry flint]

In a way they are kinda forcing us to max Guilded Arrow now due to the extra lines per 5 levels when previously it was just skilldmg%.

[keen hearth]

@dry flint how much mdc did u get?

[dry flint]

Elemental knight should be able to cap with 220% + level 60 nodes, no? I have not tried bossing yet but in theory should be ok right i suppose?

[dry flint]

I got 9.2 or 9.3 extra, about there

[keen hearth]

Nice

[dry flint]

If my understanding is right (and if Nexon follows what MaplePC has), our 6th Job Ishtar is basically extra hit-count, extra target-count, extra passive hits (Ishtar mark). Basically imagine Istar turning into Song of Heaven, and it will be both our single target and multi-target skill.

Also, I saw somewhere that we get passive IED party debuff skill which is huge since nobody else has that.

[spiral basalt]

I heard that from pcms. I doubt it’s coming to us

[spiral basalt]

What I mean is does it just automatically upgrade our ishstar ? Or is it a skill we pick out from hexamatrix n put it on the wheel

[dry flint]

It is anybody's guess how Nexon is going to implement Hexa into MSM. But I suppose it would make more sense to have a Hexa-Ishtar button in the skill tab which will be used to replace the original Istar since they have a different icon. So it is probably the latter of what you mentioned.

[hardy hill]

you probably can check kmsm patch notes

or find a mercedes playing kmsm

any of you changed their hyper passive?

I still have 3 ishtar 2 ignis from before

[dry flint]

The last I know, KMSM only released up to Unfading Glory, they have not release Hexa-Ishtar yet, or at least I have not seen it.

And the Hyper skill "remaster" that we got in today's update is basically a copy-&-paste of what they got in their March update. So actually they are not that far ahead in terms of skill progression.

[dry flint]

I am keeping the old 3 Ishtar + 2 Ignis for now. Don't see a need to change yet. But if your mdc increase faster than your stats then actually can consider changing Ignis Maintain to Ignis Enhance for more CD

[crude crown]

Nevermind

[keen hearth]

Same

[spiral basalt]

Well

Ive been running a different hyper

2 in ishstar (no cd), 2 in extra phy dmg reductkon in spike n unicorn, and 1 in extra dmg of ignus

And I refresh ignus buff every 15s by using unicorn n spike

It gives me better dps because even tho u lose a bit of dps w ishstar, your v4, final attack, elemental knight, and ishstar itself hits harder that way

It also refresh ignus cd so I don’t need the point in it

With this update, I will probably stop doing that coz 10% pd reductkon probably not worth it anymore for me. Even tho ignus extra 10% cd seems small comparing to 20% cd to ishstar, it also boosts our other skill to cap better so I think it’ll be better overall.

I will not be putting point in water shield. I find myself w enof survivability w thr current water shield that I’ll be trying to cap better.

If I ever hit abso60 weapon , or anyone who can cap ishstat very well, I’d take the point off ishstat cd first, following by ba, and put it toward water shield cooldown first, then duration.

[dry flint]

To each his own I guess, but I never saw the benefit of the armorbreak since I have been capping fine all along, even more so since they artificially capped clones. and I am still only using Necro weapon. But now that the option has been removed, it no longer is a point for debate. What you are looking to change into is basically what we have been using all along, spliting the 2 points in armorbreak into 1 ishtar and 1 ignis, only difference is whether you go for Ignis-Enhance or Ignis-Maintain. Unless you wanna go 2 Ishtar + 3 Ignis which is also possible

[dry flint]

But in my opinion, it also depends on how far ahead you want to look at. Given the knowledge that future Hexa-Ishtar will increase the duration of Ignis per hit, Ignis-Maintain (which we are used to enjoying now) will become redundant in the future. So, it becomes a question of having the convenience of longer duration Ignis now at the expense of 10%CD, or taking the extra 10%CD now with Ignis-Enhance but needing to refresh Ignis manually.

Of course, can also just forgo the reset coupon now, and self change the Hyper in the future with just 100 crystals. lol

[keen hearth]

I'm going to be duo maining in the future, Lynn if they do come out on msm

[spiral basalt]

Can u show a battle analysis of any boss Damien and above?

If you’re using a necro weapon, you are def not capping. Don’t look at max damag. Everyone can hit that. Look at your average damage. And see how far off from the max damage is it.

[dry flint]

The problem is, you cannot look at the average damage either for Merc, because over 70% of our lines are all artificially capped due to the way clones lines are, which means our average dmg is much lower in comparison to other classes. The reason why I feel that I am capping/near capping my mdc (Granted my mdc isn't at whale level, currently also at 45m after the update which is similar as you) is because I see hardly any difference in damage when I use BRP vs when I don't, goes to show all that extra boss attk doesn't make my damage go much higher due to my mdc.

[spiral basalt]

Theres a way to look at it

But simply look at ur average for elemental knight vs v4 , which isn’t affected by clone

When it comes to merc capping, it’s final attack and elemental knight that we have most problem with.

[spiral basalt]

If you’re ever curious, we get 80s of 70, 50, and 30% clone, plus our real line. Or essentially, with clone , we deal 2.5 line per second for 80s. And then for the other 40s, we deal 1 line.
So how does that affect our average damage? It’ll be 2.5 line / 4 = 0.625 or 62.5% for 80s. When you account for a real 1 line per second for the other 40s and average it out, it’s [(0.625x4) + (0.625x4) + 1] / 9 = 0.66. That’s your average damage theoretically.

So comparing to skill that isn’t affected by clone, we Shiuld deal 66% worth of line and average damage. Let’s use v4 since it’s the easiest skill to cap. 66% of your v4 average is 17.35m.

The above is assuming very low DIR, like before flame patch. So your number is a bit better. I’m gonna take a wild guess and youre at 10-15% dir.

Ishstar is gonna continue to struggle to cap close to v3. With the reduction in skill dmg for now, it’ll be even worse. But the worst part is elemental knight n final attack makes up for 20% of our overall dmg and theyre extremely hard to cap, im speaking from using an abso 50 weapon perspective

That along with let’s look at our recent bosses

Gloom is a 25s burst boss. So we only get 25s out of 80s of v1 and v2 utilize. You’re likely not hitting the next burst timing within the 80s, so we lost 69% of our v1+2 burst not hitting the eye.

Will is a boss that’s heavily bursted within 50s , so we lost 30s of our v1+2 or 37% of our v1+2

Damien flies up every 15s, I haven’t calculated , but it’s 5s per fly up, and 6 fly up per rotation, that’s at least 30s out of 80s wasted, not counting u moving for orb, doing altar, etc

So difficult to cap, and terrible lineup synergy with ds4 (v3 the only skill that can fully even fit from ds4), and bad skill design dor the boss burst meta, she feels very weak

[left sinew]

Thanks for putting this so clearly, I'm still a noob at 27m mdc so I haven't tried bosses beyond Damien

I think it's important we raise this in the feedback channel

@spiral basalt do you want to make a post and we can upvote it?

[spiral basalt]

Oh idk how to do that haha

I honestly don’t think our feedback affect much but small qol update. All these numbers are almost directly and all major gameplay changes are from kmsm, such as the change to water shield n such.

V4 was tbe first big one to finally put merc in a decent place. So im hoping origin skill is another big change that will reset the ranking and I pray we do well.

[left sinew]

Are all our rebals the same as kmsm? I thought there were some differences

[spiral basalt]

Theyre the same in term of like skill changes. It’s the line count and skill dmg % that’s different primarily

[lyric tiger]

How is mercedes here compared to pcms? Im tryna look for 2nd main and i like to get somekind of chain/link/combk skill class, as far as ive watched some yt vids msm merc doesnt actually do combos in bossing unlike pcms?

[spiral basalt]

It’s a one button class here. No chaining at all

[hardy hill]

it need a lot of funding to be good too

so not sure if you want one for second main

[lyric tiger]

Aight thx for the answer guys

[nimble mango]

I play Merc as my 2nd main with lv 30 mythic gears & lv 40 necro weapon (and still working on maxing nodes), it’s good enough to run bosses in party until Lotus imo. But the decision is still depends on funding and it will take a loooong progression if you don’t have enough time for your 2nd main.

[shadow cloak]

What hyper passive skills to up?

[spiral basalt]

.

[keen hearth]

?

[merry shore]

Yeesh does merc mobbing get better at 200?
Takes ages doing daily hunts at 195 compared to my other chars. Even BM seems to clear better :x

[left sinew]

Nope, it's the same

[hardy hill]

mercedes is one of the trashiest mobber class

[crude crown]

Kinda does in my opinion when you have your V skills but still not as good as other classes

[hardy hill]

you get like 3k kill per hour in a group

a sia will get 10k

[quaint owl]

Hey guys, trying to get my merc alt to lvl 200, can’t seem to find an ab wheel for bossing, like for dojo and stuff 😅

Can someone help me pls?

Finding merc really confusing why so many skills 🫠

[hardy hill]

pre 200, your bossing abwheel is ishtar ring

that's it

you can put lightning edge to loot the stuff faster

[quaint owl]

Ohhh ok

Simple hahaha

Thank you 🫶🏽

[keen hearth]

you guys ready for 6th job?

https://youtu.be/58FaTghtO_8?t=271

[lyric tiger]

With the concept of mdc in msm i bet classes with background continuos dmg over time gonna reign supreme

[hardy hill]

nope

mercedes 6th job is kinda mid

anyway 3.4 level left for me

6th job should be july or august so I'll be fine on release

[dry flint]

6th job Skill 2
https://youtu.be/lVjIL6OxyKk?si=gJ0srzIvu28ghQRH&t=148

[hardy hill]

mercedes one look soso

[keen hearth]

@hardy hill @dry flint @spiral basalt what ratio CD:BA are you guys running?

[hardy hill]

6:2

[keen hearth]

I'm at 1:7

[hardy hill]

1cd 7 ba?

Feel extreme

[keen hearth]

Might need to switch to 6:2 or 5:3

[hardy hill]

mines (but I still got some work on emblem levels to do)

[spiral basalt]

I’d suggest 4:4

We are approaching 150m mdc. Your old recommendation of full cd is for lowwr skill damage n clone

That’s very outdated now

We don’t know for sure what’s better now.

But general 4:4 or up to 6cd and 2ba Shiuld allow u to fully cap your v skill.

Ba is way more important at higher cap than cd. It’s worth a lot more.

[hardy hill]

the we there exclude probably everyone in this section

[keen hearth]

I switch my gears to 4:4

[hardy hill]

and lost 10m mdc

[keen hearth]

Yeah but gain 60% CD

[hardy hill]

I'd take 9m mdc over 60% cd

unless you were super far from capping

are you the highest level mercedes on your server?

[spiral basalt]

Oh what?! U rr mdc?

[hardy hill]

probably changed gear for some with lower level

[keen hearth]

I wish, there a mercedes that 258 in my server

[hardy hill]

highest in mine is 246 lol

247 tonight

[keen hearth]

I have one set of hat, cape, belt should but lvl 40 and another set of hat, cape, belt lvl 50 lol

[spiral basalt]

I’m confused

I thought we talking about armor emblem

[keen hearth]

Option 1: @spiral basalt

[keen hearth]

Or go to option 2:

@spiral basalt @hardy hill should I lose mdc for more CD or stay with higher mdc but low CD?

[hardy hill]

I'd keep the higher mdc. And if you really want to have more cd, work on your cd gear before swapping

[spiral basalt]

Mdc til u at least 130m

[dry flint]

Me 6CD:3BA including SW, 6:2 if without.

Mdc is king in my opinion. No amount of min-maxing outweighs raw Mdc unless you are already nearing max Mdc

[hardy hill]

3ba?

how

oh nvm secondary wep, guess you don't have pdi

[keen hearth]

I forgot to mention, I'm using damien bossing soul...

[nimble mango]

I have a question
Do you guys manually proc Spirit of Elluel and Unicorn riding (sorry, the skill name is hard to remember ..) when bossing or just put those skills on pet's slots to cast them automatically?

[spiral basalt]

I pet them.

Coz I’m lazy

But if u wanna min max those extra seconds, manual them

[nimble mango]

Thank you. I sometimes confuse myself taking times to switch wheel for tapping them, but when I put them to pets-I mostly miss using V3 while those 2 skills are active bc of bad timing and lower V3 lv.

[spiral basalt]

Yea u need max level on everything to be optimized

[keen hearth]

Manual when I boss

[ripe flume]

Hi guys is anyone else not able to chain rolling moonsault with aerial barrage or leaf tornado? I keep trying to do the rising rush-aerial barrage-rolling moonsault-leaf tornado but it keeps saying you do not meet requirements for rolling moonsault?

[dry flint]

You can call it a bug, but it is more an error in cast timing misfit due to skill animation. Add Spike Royale into the combo and it will work just fine. Though we hardly actually use the combos

[ripe flume]

Oh ok thank you hopefully they fix the bug cause I used the combo often before the recent update

[unkempt heron]

What's the current AB wheel if I don't have any level 141+ Hyper skills unlocked yet? lmk if I need to make any presets or just put the individual skills in the wheel. thx

[hardy hill]

it's the same, just replace enlil for gust dive

scroll up for the wheel

mercedes hyper passive are all for bossing

[keen hearth]

Also if you have mpets, put your vskills on them

[hardy hill]

He's not even lv.141

[keen hearth]

Nvm then

[dense jetty]

the same as what actually? 😅

[hardy hill]

it got posted a lot, just scroll up

I'm not in game but found an old screenshot

elemental knight doesn't need to be there anymore

[shadow cloak]

Can someone help to confirm if I have all the key V Matrix skills to level 60?

[keen hearth]

Those are your hyper skills and they are max; 4 x 25 (max level) + 5 = 219

[shadow cloak]

Thanks! Are there any skills (Trios) that I missed that need to be maxed for Merc?

[keen hearth]

Those are your main trio skills used. Are your v skills max?

Those 4 skills

[shadow cloak]

Still WIP, this is my V matrix currently

[keen hearth]

You need these skills have to re do those other 3 trio

2x

2x

[shadow cloak]

Is unicorn crucial? Cause I don’t really use it

[keen hearth]

Those are your mobbing skills used for training

[shadow cloak]

I have everything, only thing is I swapped unicorn with lightning

Mobbing I use lightning, spike royal and wrath.

[keen hearth]

I mean, if it work... it work

[shadow cloak]

Ah okay, but I guess bossing I have the keys ones

Thanks so much! @keen hearth

[keen hearth]

Bossing a different since you mainly use 2 skills

I would highly suggest find those two combo first b4 bossing:

Elemental knight, ishtar ring & stun stroke (another mixture in any order)

Spike royal, unicorn spike & wraith of enill (any order)

[shadow cloak]

@keen hearth Yup! Got Ishtar, stun stroke, elemental knight, spike royal, wraith and lightning (instead of unicorn) done

[keen hearth]

The other 3 nodes trio aren't perfect

[keen hearth]

You need these three of mixture

[shadow cloak]

But it gives me these results

I just ensure 2 replicates of the skill are present among the 4 nodes

[keen hearth]

When you boss, you only need elemental knight and ishtar ring only

Which should up take up 2 nodes slot (max at lvl 60; 2 x 25 + 5)

Is this a alt or main? @shadow cloak

[shadow cloak]

Oh I guess you have bossing and farming page. I currently use 1 page for both bossing and farming

[shadow cloak]

It’s my main

This is my bossing wheel

[keen hearth]

You wont be using wraith of enlil and spike royal when bossing since ishtar ring is our main skill

[shadow cloak]

So instead of getting 2 x 2 x perfect trios. I spread the skills across 4 nodes.

[keen hearth]

That is incorrect perfect trio like I mention b4

Eventually when you get to stronger bosses you need more node slots for skills

[shadow cloak]

Ah okay, let me relook into the trios. Thanks!

[keen hearth]

This is what your idea nodes slots should look like for bossing, I'm currently at lvl 250

[shadow cloak]

Great this is super helpful! Thank you.

[shadow cloak]

@keen hearth Spent some mesos to get the perfect trios

[keen hearth]

Looking good

[hardy hill]

lol you use guided arrow? Do you really see a ounce of usefulness with it?

get true anarchid to lv25 asap, it's big dps

even lv30 on a lv5 slot

[spiral basalt]

Huh u don’t use guided arrow?!

[hardy hill]

it do like 0.2% when I try it

so I don't bother anymore

[hardy hill]

what percentage of damage you're getting with it?

[spiral basalt]

Wth

U crazy

It’s 3% at least

[hardy hill]

last few times I tried was under 1%

[spiral basalt]

From Will

[hardy hill]

kay I'll try it again tomorrow

but that was nowhere near 4% for me last time, it wasn't even worth using the slot

[spiral basalt]

[dry flint]

Guided arrow got nerfed big time in the past, but it got rebuffed again in a more recent patch, though it still doesn't compare to back before the nerf

[keen hearth]

^

[hardy hill]

hmm forgot when I last tested, maybe before that last buff

now I need 400m for another slot

[keen hearth]

Those skills slots are way too expensive

[hardy hill]

well it's better than when I was lv240 for sure

[inner cedar]

How is merc these days? Thinking of rerolling with the next update

[keen hearth]

Need a lot of funds, recommendations 6 cd and 2 ba

[hardy hill]

actually betwen 4/4 and 6/2 work

but yeah super single target class, not the best but not the worst, need lots of funding

gears are rare too because archer are a dead class

[keen hearth]

[hardy hill]

lol I made everything myself

[west schooner]

Do u guys find Mercedes down time to be bad? No extra lines and no unicorn. Haven’t played much other classes so wanna hear what u guys think.

[keen hearth]

6th job, we got nerf 50%

[hardy hill]

doubt that's a 50% nerf

any better quality screenshot?

we get v2 removed and transformed as a 60sec burst skill

so we get a burst

while we lose about half the damage of elemental knight

the burst is 352 x 4 hit and 84 more hits overtime after

so it's probably a buff in the end

it even gives 15% fd passive (while v2 was a 20% buff)

[spiral basalt]

I pray v1 change come next patch

Will be nice

[hardy hill]

what's the changes to v1?

[spiral basalt]

V2*

[hardy hill]

kk

[spiral basalt]

I keep saying v1 lol

[hardy hill]

yeah v1 is our clones

it's just sad to lose the mount

[spiral basalt]

I’m excited for it

The mount sometimes is annoying tbh

[hardy hill]

but well it'll make it easier to fly in gloom

I'm getting annoyed when v2 expire while mid air, need to change setup to keep flying and I always end up falling

I'll miss the tripple jump though

anyway we'll probably get these changes (minus 6th job skill one) in august/september patch

(lf > 6th job right away)

[west schooner]

The translations are hard to understand but thanks for posting

We only have one clone going forward?

[hardy hill]

still 3

v2 become an active skill

with 1min cd

and overtime damage after the hit

elemental knight damage get reduced

and I think v3 doesn't give ignis roar stacks anymore

that last one is the most anoying one

if it's correct

[shadow cloak]

Is Merc still one of the better DPS after patch? Hahaha

[hardy hill]

the patch change nothing

mercedes isn't the best but isn't the worst

but if you factor the investment needed it go down in rank

[ripe flume]

So I finally submitted a bug report because it’s been like this for the past two patches I like to use this combo cause I like combos on a combo class otherwise I would just play wind archer prior to the July update there was no issue casting rising rush-aerial barrage - rolling moonsault - leaf tornado.

[unreal flint]

Does Mercedes even have heal skill?

The damage from enemies in arcane power field is bit too fast before using potions to heal

[keen hearth]

Set it to 90% hp

[hardy hill]

nope

mercedes got zero utilities

all our buffs are selfish

[unreal flint]

[hardy hill]

any known abso DBG in other server? Pretty sure mine only got 2 with the one I made today, wondering what's the state of other servers

[unreal summit]

@fallen frigate u have one right ?!

[nimble mango]

In my server I saw one at least.

Wishing for mine but after 20 attempts, it seems too far for me

[hardy hill]

Oof

Took me 5

First one from na Scania took like 2...

[nimble mango]

Oh Sooo lucky

[hardy hill]

Welp guess there's max a couple per server that are really maining Mercedes

[nimble mango]

Tbh this class is fun to play but need a lot of funding

[hardy hill]

Well at a high level at least

[nimble mango]

Yeah

[storm bramble]

Im f2p and think they perform well, lvl 230 and can do solo lotus and archone without problems 22m mdc.

The hardest part is when you get stuck when the pony buff comes along. I often die then.

[hardy hill]

our main attack have low % so next to other class, we need more mdc and so investment before we start seeing real gains

lotus and n.archon are kinda alt class boss now

[keen hearth]

Small achievement

[hardy hill]

nice

I still need to get a 3rd line on my book

[heavy hare]

Anyone in A2S interested to buy Archer gears?

[keen bear]

Any tips on finishing enemies with multiple attack points quicker?

Like horntail I'm taking like 3-4mins to finish. And guild honor battle octopus my dmg is trash. I feel like I'm doing it all wrong

[keen hearth]

We dont have good mob skills....

[keen hearth]

For octopus, v1, v2, make sure octopus is far left or right, v4, IF you are +235 use arachnid skill and burst with v3 then back to our regular attack skill until end

[hardy hill]

actually, combo for octopus

[hallow prairie]

Shall I try exhalt/mastercraft on this?
(First emblem)

[hardy hill]

exalt then mastercraft

[shadow cloak]

What hyper stats do yall pump after maxing FD, MDC, PDI and ADI?

[dry flint]

CD or BA depends on what you lack, though BA is better "value for money" per point.
This is assuming you already have a separate page for Exp and Party Exp.
Buff Item Duration Increase is also worth a shout out

[hallow prairie]

Why a page for exp and party exp?

[dry flint]

Because there aren't enough hyper points to max everything in one page. You need to be at least lvl 240 just to max any 4 of the 8 hyper stats mentioned above.
Typically, people have one page for farming one page for bossing. Much easier to manage and efficient for both dps and leveling, as long you have the mesos to support the expense.

[hallow prairie]

but how does that relate to the 'Ba is better bvalue for money per point'?

[dry flint]

I am giving my opinion on the assumption that OP is only at about lvl 240 thereabout. If he/she has not already max out Exp and Party Exp, then it is way more important to invest the mesos (or more rather than not the Meso Boost Reward Points which is given out in plenty in the current event) into EXP/PartyExp first before CD/BA since 6th-Job is coming. OP should prioritize getting to lvl 250 first instead of trying to min-max dps.

[hallow prairie]

My mercedes is currently lvl 190

[hallow prairie]

Why not both exp and party exp on the same page?
I thought it was 1 page for farming and another for bossing?

[dry flint]

lol. What I meant was one new second page for Exp + Party Exp. The first page is for FD, MDC, PDI, ADI which is what OP already had. Plus whatever he/she wants to add next, be it CD or BA, or something else

[hallow prairie]

Ohhhh, okok

[hallow prairie]

Is FD, MDC, PDI, ADI recommendes to all class?

[keen hearth]

Yes

[hallow prairie]

Wait

you are talking here about hyper skills?
I thought you were talking about my weapon question

[dry flint]

Did you only just realized what this entire convo is about? lmao. Anyway this is Hyper stats. Hyper skills is something else.

With regards to your weapon, whether CD emblem or BA emblem it does not matter. As long you have a balance of both CD and BA in your other 7 emblems.

What is a MUST, is the CD JAIHIN WEAPON itself which is what you got. And you continue to choose CD after each mastercraft on the weapon

[hallow prairie]

Yeah, hyper stats, my bad there

I got confused because i thought with BA/CD you meant to the emblem, not answering gong question
Still, thanks for the info

[austere helm]

With same gear any know Who its better ? Wh or Mercedes xd

[keen hearth]

Mercedes doesn't have a lot mobbing skills, but 1 main skill for bossing

[hardy hill]

no clue, never player WH actively

[austere helm]

Oh ok bro , the next balance will good for Mercedes or its nerf ?

Any know?

[hardy hill]

a slight buff I think

depdnding if they give us everything we think of

[shadow cloak]

What should I level up to 25 after all these skills and true archanid?

[hardy hill]

put v4 on a lv5 slot

and yes everything

then decent skill too

you don't need the training nodes for bossing, replace them by decent skill

and swap the bossing node when training

have arachnid on a lv5 slot too while at it

[unreal summit]

Using the same setup but almost hitting 240 where should we focus on next afther all those nodes ?

[hardy hill]

focus for node or for everything else

cause I got a second page with more nodes

[austere helm]

Any have necro weapon to sell in scania ? Xd

Na

[hardy hill]

mercedes (and archer in general) are dead class, you gotta make most of your stuff

[austere helm]

Oh sht xx thx

[unreal summit]

The second page yea haha the rest is clear Abso abso abso 😂

[unreal summit]

I have a spare one in Scania Eu 😂

[austere helm]

U.u im NA xd

[hallow prairie]

Why's that?

[hardy hill]

because it's life

[keen hearth]

Are you +235?

[shadow cloak]

You mean above level 235? Yeah am at 243 now

[keen hearth]

Max it out, extra damage for bossing

[hardy hill]

he mean what to max after

just max them all, we get 5 more slot for free, gotta max em all

[keen hearth]

Wait for 6th job now....

[hardy hill]

there's gear

souls

legion

[unreal summit]

Whats the best soul types to choice now ?! Its not max dmg right ?!

[shadow cloak]

MDC top, followed by FD

[keen hearth]

If your gears are max out to lvl 70's and 60's, legion +10k, hyper stats, guild individual skills and max sf gears. Focus on FD as souls

[unreal summit]

Check before that is just going for max dmg than ?!

[hardy hill]

don't bother on other than weapon, mag soul on the rest is for later in the progression

[unreal summit]

Check thanks 🫶🏻

[shadow cloak]

Seems like from the latest patch we got buffed, except for elemental knights I guess. Got nerfed twice in a row

Is the change in sylvidia flight a buff or nerf? Hahahha

[hallow prairie]

Elemental knights made 20% of my damage in a 1 min rotation, so idk how to feel about this

[nimble mango]

Llittle knights got nerfed and no more alicorn riding?

[hallow prairie]

Are royal guards an upgraded version of elemental knights? Haven't unlocked all nodes yet

[shadow cloak]

It’s an iframe

[hallow prairie]

[dry flint]

Royal knight is similar to Elemental knight in the sense they are both cast-once-to-summon-knights and then let it do its own thing/damage kind of skills. But the two skills are unrelated as in you do not need to have one to have the other. Royal knight is an additional summon. The iframe is only just within the short cast animation

[hallow prairie]

so i guess royal knights buff compensates elemental knights nerf in a way?

[dry flint]

Not really. The nerf to Elemental knight is on hit count, but the buff to Royal knight is on skill damage which is restricted by its existing number of lines when capped. So, in theory we lose out on some lines if we are only talking about the two. This is also subjected to how high your MDC is, the impact of skill damage vs lines will be different at say 50mdc vs 200mdc.

But looking at the bigger picture, we probably gain more lines overall due to the AOE + Echo of Sylvidia's Flight, and also the reduced duration + additional lines to Irkalla's Wrath.

But one thing to note is that there is also a change from 80s of 25% FD to perma 15% FD passive.

So all in all, I think this update benefit the better-geared Merc more than the lesser-geared Merc. At least on paper it seems to be

[hallow prairie]

So if your MDC is low, it will be a nerf because better lines is better since you may be capping damage with royal knights?

[dry flint]

If you are talking strictly only on the two knight skills, yes. You should be able to cap royal knights whether at 330% or 370% if your mdc is relatively low. Assuming you have decent enough gears/stats of course.

But regardless of gears/stats/mdc, you will still gain more than enough lines through Sylvidia's Flight and Irkalla's Wrath to compensate for the loss in Elemental knight. Just that Merc with higher mdc will benefit more on the skill damage increase

[hallow prairie]

Just checked sylvidia's flight on youtube. She looked like an wild hunter

But could you do combos on flight? Or only ring?

[dry flint]

You could have combo Spike Royale with Wrath hyper while sitting on Unicorn. But realistically I believe most Merc will only use Irkalla's Wrath + Ishtar Ring when mounted and then use combo to reset Ignis after the unicorn duration ended

Post update, there is no more sitting on unicorn. So technically you can do whatever combo you want, just whether it is useful/efficient or not

[hallow prairie]

Are there v skills combo oriented? Or from lvl 200 mercedes just turns into a glorified bowmaster?

[hallow prairie]

Jumping mercedes on unicorn would have been fun and cursed to play

[dry flint]

Merc V skills are just Clones, Unicorn, Knights Summon, Deer summon (V6 to come), passive buffs and iframe. There is nothing to combo in V skills, unless you are talking about Boost node which are based on combo skills of lower levels. But Merc in MSM are not built around doing combo in the first place I feel, unlike in MaplePC where combos are a must.

[hallow prairie]

I understand
Thanks for the info

[dry flint]

Sylvidia's flight as written in patch notes appears to be different from what it is in other versions of Maplestory. Guess we will only know when it comes out officially after the update. What you saw dashing on unicorn like wild hunter is what we currently have. There was another version where Unicorn became a toggle skill which we probably skipped over. The new one post update that we will get will probably look more similar to Windarcher's Monsoon.

You're welcome (:

[keen hearth]

Dont like this patch

[dry flint]

Well we lost our pet unicorn, but always better a buff than the alternative. At least we get a proper map clearing skill now every 30s + V3 will no longer be cancelled by boss anymore. And we get way more active and passive lines which are easier to hit.

If there is one thing I can complain about, is that they did not give Merc more iframe which could have easily been attached onto the new Sylvidia's flight.
Thieves which already have iframes got an additional iframe but archers which lacked iframes to begin with did not get one

[hardy hill]

our replacement for unicorn is a skill we can use every 30sec

that's a buff

now we just need used to click that button every 30sec after all this time of only acting every 2min

lol

[hallow prairie]

~~Iframes CD skill reduction when doing chain combo ~~

Now that I think about it, how safe is performing mercedes combos against bosses on PC?

[hardy hill]

is you want low dpm, sure, you're free to combo on boss

msm isn't pcms. if you wanna combo as a mercedes, play pc

[hallow prairie]

With safe I meant what are the chances of the boss killing you because you are jumping around the map

It was a random question, I understand that doing combos is dps loss on msm

[hardy hill]

nothing changed in combo skills

so if you die now you'll die after patch

[left sinew]

No more unicorn riding 🥲

RIP

[hardy hill]

that was a cool skill but tbf it was a pain to use

low jump height

blocking some skills

[left sinew]

• buff

• style

Neg points for style

[hallow prairie]

I know that xD
I meant on PC, like, if she gets some def buff because she gets closer to the boss (or probably skill issue from my part because i am playing the class incorrectly)
Or the option is study positioning/range and cancel animation when neccesary?

[dry flint]

In maplePC, skills animations are way shorter and much more fluid + agile. Animation cancelling is also possible to not only increase efficiency in casting different skills consecutively but also allow for better positioning/dodging in boss fights as the maps are "wider". In MSM skill animation is slow af and chaining more often than not gets you killed before one combo is even completed.

But more importantly, characters in MaplePC have wayyyyy more HP which allows tanking multiple hits/ touch damage, whereas in MSM you can get 1HKO in pretty much every mid-game to end-game boss.

[hardy hill]

idk for vhillia but I don't remember boss strong enough to 1hko (except dojo I guess)

[spiral basalt]

Any merc got their elemental knight line count in hilla or fog?

It’s bugged for me so element knight doesnt show up in fog

[left sinew]

~1200 lines per min in fog

[west schooner]

u guys feel stronger?

the new skill seems good

[hardy hill]

the new skill doesn't have clone lines

that's dumb

[narrow lake]

They took our unicorn? 😭

Guys protest 🤣

[keen hearth]

Just feel really weird without her

[narrow lake]

When I reach 200 I was so excited for that experience lol

[west schooner]

the duration for Irkalla's wrath is less now?

[keen hearth]

Mercedes patch note:

[nimble mango]

She's still with us in the skill animation at least

[fickle tulip]

Sylvida charge can hit against damage reflect now it's gone 😭

I used to take no damage while riding unicorn in magnus also gone 😭

[nimble mango]

Found that a rework pony skill is pretty good for clearing mobs in Lotus P1 Finally can solo Lotus lol

[shadow cloak]

What are yall adding for hyper skill?

[hardy hill]

12345

[shadow cloak]

Is water shield good? I’m at 12349 right now

[hardy hill]

you don't need more

5sec is plenty enough

we got 2 iframe too

[hallow prairie]

Everything but the shield

[dry flint]

Watershield Cooldown Cutter would be more useful than Watershield Persist if your focus is on surviving with iframe

Otherwise go 12345 or 12346 to maximize damage as mentioned above

[ripe flume]

Did they explain why they changed Sylvidias flight in any of the patch videos? I have a feeling they’re gonna rework Mercedes on PC MapleStory and they’re testing it out on us.

[shadow cloak]

With unicorn now 30s cd, do we still need 5? Or 12346 would be better?

[dry flint]

You can still go with 5 if you wanna do away with the micromanaging since it is basically perma up with Persist.
Personally I go with 12346, but you have to get use to monitoring the ignis timer in boss fights.

[shadow cloak]

Thanks! Will do with 12346 for myself

[dry flint]

This new Sylvidias flight was already implented in MaplePC and now brought into MSM. We are almost always the last in terms of rework actually since MSM developers only copy-&-paste from other versions. lol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hN9PeY2mE5w

[ripe flume]

I see thanks. I haven’t played pc version in a long time cause it isn’t compatible with MacBooks unfortunately.

[hardy hill]

lemental knight is so sad now

used to be 20% of the damage

now it's 8

[ripe flume]

Yeah and the hit count is down 🥲

[rocky goblet]

I'm lvl 157, can anyone give me a good preset for manual bossing? couldn't find it in pinned messages

[hardy hill]

ishtar ring

done

[hallow prairie]

Sorry for slander, I just wanted to ride the unicorn
~~Done, I got it off my chest ~~
Also, If it's not appropiate to put this kind of things here, let me know ><

[storm bramble]

Wait why use spikes befor burst ?

[spiral basalt]

Debuff to make sure v3 hit caps

But arguable u lose some lines also

[median whale]

Why are you sorry for me

[storm bramble]

The debuff just make the boss deal less damage?

[spiral basalt]

It makes us of more dmg

But the animation is so long

[nimble mango]

Tbh spike usually made me ded in Lotus P1 a hit box went up a bit and then got buzzed at the laser core like a mosquito

[dry flint]

hahaha! You forgot the part where Elemental Knights tried to kill Mercedes! 😅 😅 😅

That has got to be one of, if not the most epic fail

[hallow prairie]

Forgot that you mentioned before xD

[hardy hill]

anyone got an idea of a nice 4 skill combo to use in multi ghb now that we're not blocked by unicorn?

[spare crest]

Does Mercedes really need stunning strike for trio nodes? o.O

[hallow prairie]

I use Wrath > spikes > moonsault > unicorn/strikes

Not sure if best, but I'm comfortable with it

[hardy hill]

anyone noticed some abnormally low damage today? normally I do my daily dojo in a couple min, stopping at the green worm, but today it took 6, something was feeling wrong

felt like ishtar wasn't working or something

got the same feeling in lotus

[hardy hill]

nvm, it was my FT. For some reason it was gone from my pet

[hallow prairie]

BIS node trio for merc?

[hardy hill]

just scroll up, should have been posted many times

[unreal summit]

What would be our next one ?! Dmg ignore rate ore boss att ?!

[left sinew]

Boss atk, dmg ignore is not def ignore and is pretty useless

[unreal summit]

Aaah oke check so next one wil be than boss att ore is there a better one ?

[keen hearth]

What your currents? @unreal summit

If you boss a lot (vl to will), get buff item duration

[hardy hill]

that's for the second page the buff duration

[unreal summit]

The picture above is my current

[unreal summit]

Also working with exp buffs ?!

[hardy hill]

yup

[unreal summit]

Thats good to know 😉

[gaunt moon]

How many hit count does the Mercedes currently make in 2 minutes and 3 minutes?

[storm bramble]

18129 and 30960

[white fossil]

any AB wheel ? I don't see any in pinned

preferably got pre lv 200 and post lv 200 🙏🏻

[white fossil]

is her AB for under lv 170 just ishtar ring ? i'm not sure how the combos worked tgt

[unreal summit]

I use this one u can use it pre and post lvl 200

[white fossil]

thank youuu

[gaunt moon]

Wow thanks

Pasive Mercedes plz mode BOSS ?

[hardy hill]

1 2 3 4 5

[shadow cloak]

I do 1 2 3 4 6

[hardy hill]

forgot what 6 is, but I prefer ignis maintain

was it a small 10% c.dmg for 6?

[shadow cloak]

Yup, something like that

[hardy hill]

It would be useful if you're not capping

Else this small amount is kinda nothing, so better going for better utility

[hardy hill]

finally, our time has come to shine in GHB

[hallow prairie]

I deal more damage on multiple target GHB

[hardy hill]

a normal class with all important bossing skill multi would do 3x their single target damage. We do about 2x max

I do 760b single and about 1.5t multi

[hallow prairie]

I haven't see it that way

thanks

[gaunt moon]

Mercedez is OP archers ?

[fleet stone]

Wh

[hallow prairie]

Glorified bowmaster

Still fun

[loud birch]

Doing this build (from video) I had ~100k damage on papalatus guild boss

Switching to the one in the screenshot (somebody's comment up there) I upped to 147k

Lv 135

Both still seem like booty though 💀 My shadower, holong, and phantom are only 12X... and they do 500-600k damage, with only 86 sf vs 106 sf

[hallow prairie]

That's why

[hallow prairie]

Actually, mercedes main damage comes from ring, a skill from lvl 140 I think

[loud birch]

🤔

i love the combos and stuff of merc

but yeah

dmg is rough 😭

[hallow prairie]

X2

Thing is, combos are more fluid on pc
On msm some have a bit of lag

[hallow prairie]

Or that's how I feel like

Also, wrath comes at lvl 170

[hardy hill]

bossing damage is from ishtar ring, elemental knight and v skills, the combo is for training

in fact we do better than many other class on boss/single target content

I do 6.3b on immortal guild dungeon

[hallow prairie]

[hardy hill]

you're really biased. Only place where merc is bad is mobbing. Mercedes is still in the top of the dps chart on equal funding on boss

[hallow prairie]

I was joking, I love mercedes

That's a picture of the mercedes discord lol

[hardy hill]

it's just that it need a lot of funding before you start seeing it good

[hallow prairie]

Just learned that that stunning strikes reduces cd by 1 second on maplePC

Wheel:

Now this combo makes sense

[gaunt moon]

Are those combos effective against bosses?

or what is it for?

[hallow prairie]

For bossing on pc

Doesn't work on mapleM properly because stunning strike doesn't reduce CD (it does on PC)

I tested it, and by the time you reach unicorn after first rotation finishes, it has 2 sec CD

[hardy hill]

forget combo, they are only for training

mercedes is a single target class in msm

the only useful combo is a combo to stay mid air a long time for gloom

[loud birch]

Could you give me an example bossing ring? 🙏

[loud birch]

👀 is… is it this

[hallow prairie]

The crossed one or the "correct" one?

In msm the correct one is the right (spam ring)
But you can try combo wheels like the one I showed above

[slate badge]

Should i fund a iel or mercedes to lv 200?

[ionic jolt]

can mercedes craft rope lift ?

[hallow prairie]

Yes

I think every class can craft it?

[keen hearth]

Every class can

[hardy hill]

hexa ishtar ring make it 5 target, wonder if we should use it for ab now

[keen hearth]

I would rather focus on vi skill first

[hardy hill]

nope, you want ishtar asap for the DoT it add

and first goal is to unlock them all

we spend like 95% of our time using ishtar ring so priority to it on hexa

to at least lv1

unlock order, I'd probably say ishtar > v3 > v2 > v1 > v4

actually depending on the minion additional dmg increase on v1 hexa it might be good to put it earlier

[keen hearth]

What your new mdc cap now?

I went from 80 to 110

[hardy hill]

80 to 114

well I'm 116 now since I got to 12k legion with iel

[shadow cloak]

Good enough to keep? I don’t have MSW hahaha

Was previously leg flame - 4% FD and 700+ PA

[hardy hill]

4% fd was better

[shadow cloak]

Wa okay, never mind I keep for now. I feel end game flame on leg secondary item not worth hahaha

[kindred phoenix]

What's your hyper skill distribution @unreal flint

[unreal flint]

I focused on water shield as another I-frame

So I use 4,6,7,8,9

[unreal flint]

This should last for good while (page 2)

[kindred phoenix]

Rope lift last, the jump is similar to wild hunter jaguar leap/kain rope lift/iel jump

[keen hearth]

U only need like 6 skills... max skills is 60

[hardy hill]

water shield hyper is useless

we get a 3rd iframe next month with the new decent skill

[hardy hill]

you want 1 2 3 4 5

5 can be swapped to 6

you waste at least 2 slots in this matrix too

we need these 2 slots next month update

[hardy hill]

get rope lift asap

[dry flint]

Have you unlocked any of the Hexa-V skills? How are the buffs like?

[hardy hill]

only ishtar

[dry flint]

Is this minion damage on the clones or the tree?

[hardy hill]

others are only fd and I'm still capping at 157 so waiting on those

hexa stat is too good to not go right away

I'll max my hexa stat page 1 then go with the other v skills

[dry flint]

ahh icic. Yeah Hexa stats too op if you have rng on your side with the insane mdc boost

[hardy hill]

even with bad rng

I got kinda bad rng yet still get 30m mdc

[dry flint]

haha oh wells. I saw one guy got 125mil on hexa stats alone. Crazy luck. lol

[hardy hill]

lv10 secondary

many people in my guild got that

or lv8 main

that's my aim

[shadow cloak]

Is this considered bad?

[hardy hill]

rip

yup

better luck page 2

would've been great if hitting 100% on 2nd line

[shadow cloak]

Yeah, bad RNG. I think the worst is 4/8/8 or 6/7/7 ?

Which gives 62.5m and 75m MDC max?

[hardy hill]

lots of bad options

mine rn is 4/5/4

still some chance but will probably be trash

[shadow cloak]

Okay, but I guess it’s usable for now

Will start levelling skill nodes and origin first

[hardy hill]

guess so

[grave sigil]

Where is pin for autobattle lv 200 skill wheel and preset / bossing/ perfect trio- boss focus trio. So much to scroll thru

[hardy hill]

if anyone unlock the 4 v skills hexa, plz share a screenshot of the new effects

[shadow cloak]

For the rest, it’s the same as sylvidia flight enhancement

[hardy hill]

ok thx

[ionic jolt]

Isn't someone said ring become 5 target?

[shadow cloak]

The 4 v skills are the bottom left

Ring is the top right

And yes, ring will be 5 targets

[ionic jolt]

Great , no longer have to deal with those bosses' summons with other chain skills

Maybe ring for mobbing is a thing now?

[shadow cloak]

I don’t use it for now hahah

My mobbing wheel is very simple, spike royal, wrath, origin, dash and Sylvia flight.

I don’t use unicorn or tornado

[ionic jolt]

great one haha , i dont use unicorn as well , long cd and only a small aoe , btw what is origin ? dash means lightning ?

i dont use lightning because she always dash too far and have to come back to the mob that she hit earlier if not yet kill 😂

[shadow cloak]

Ya dash is lightning. Origin is the hexa skill on the top left

[hardy hill]

that's a waste to not use unicorn and lightning

ring for mobbing isn't good

stunning strike is better

you need it to reduce the other skill cd

[sage hearth]

Does royal knight also add final DMG only?
Thanks

[shadow cloak]

Yes

For mobbing, yall can test it out. For my current mobbing wheel, it works best comparing the rest on how many monsters it can kill per minute

[hardy hill]

and what's your kill/h with this?

cause unicorn isn't a slow skill at all

[shadow cloak]

About 11k/h

[hardy hill]

solo? what map?

[shadow cloak]

Yup solo

Map 30

Wait I show you

@hardy hill

10.6k/h here

[hardy hill]

took me a while finding a screenshot from sp30 solo I had

mine was 10k on that screenshot, but I had lower sp

[shadow cloak]

My quite standard ranging 10.5-11k

Also my tri node, I put lightning

I didn’t include unicorn

[hardy hill]

you got space for all nodes

all skills

[shadow cloak]

That’s true hahah

This is mine

[hardy hill]

full version

erda shower is useless so it'll be gone, and last slot will get the second new decent skill

[shadow cloak]

Are you planning to level origin or ring mastery for hexa first?

[hardy hill]

finishing my 1st stat page, then 4 v skill lv1 then origin lv10

[shadow cloak]

Okay 👌🏻

[ionic jolt]

Iam using stunning strike as well , but does it reduce cd ? I thought there's a bug withthis skill

[hallow prairie]

X2, i thought it was not working?

[kindred phoenix]

Archer consultant @fleet stone I gonna make wh next but it depends on Nexon changes, I prev burned pathfinder. Bm and mm was left but mm prob still outclassed by kain while wh dk make or wait remaster and iel came to dethrone bm(bm and mm exist in my other worlds and contributed to monster collection if that counts)

[kindred phoenix]

Wil reflection can replace erda shower in mobbing too aft I tried the skill on iel

[hardy hill]

I'm not using erda shower, it's there cause I had slots

[kindred phoenix]

Yea they gave plenty of slots

[hardy hill]

well erda shower get yeeted for the new 2 decent skills

[kindred phoenix]

Will reflection was alright for mobbing and bossing alr so yea might as well get the 2 decent skills

[fleet stone]

U R NOT WRONG BUDDY

[kindred phoenix]

Perks to Mercedes, easier to get mu lung exp medal

Server dependant

[hardy hill]

wrong medal color

[kindred phoenix]

Yea

[left sinew]

Anyone wanna share how many frags they're getting. I have 60% drop rate and soloing SPF30 with mpets. Frags I'm getting seem really low

[shadow cloak]

Im getting at least 1-2 every hour. The worst was 12 frags after 9 hours.

I think your drop rate is decent, I’m at 80+ %. Probably the amount of mobs you’re killing per hour is the problem. I’m between 10.5-11k mobs per hour

I’m also soloing map 30 with m pets

[left sinew]

Can you share your AB wheel?

[shadow cloak]

P1 is stack with spike and wrath

[left sinew]

Interesting so no unicorn or stunning strikes?

[shadow cloak]

Not for me hahaha

Probably have to look at your CP/attack also to see if you can one hit kill the mob

[left sinew]

Thanks worth a try at least!

[shadow cloak]

Let me know if you tried a new AB wheel and it works better

[hardy hill]

the total of rare loot is constant, the composition of that total of rare loot vary from session to session

[shadow cloak]

Third attempt, thank god 😮‍💨

[hardy hill]

lucky

[shadow cloak]

Really expensive, I got some guild mates who gotten sec 10 in 1st attempt hahah

[hardy hill]

yeah my guild got many of these

I'm on my second, 7/20

hopefully it go well

[shadow cloak]

All the best!

These were my attempts

Page 1: 4/9/7
Page 2: 5/6/9
Page 3 (after resetting page 1): 5/10/5

[hardy hill]

my 1st one ended 6/7/7
my second one is now 5/0/5
halfway done, crossing finger so it stay this good

[shadow cloak]

All the best!

[hardy hill]

success! (with 1 bonus roll left to do)

[shadow cloak]

Congrats!! Hope you get level 9 main stats

[hardy hill]

would be nice but I'll be happy with everything

[hardy hill]

Last one ended in 2nd row

Welp, 125m mdc is plenty

[shadow cloak]

Main 8 is still good

[hardy hill]

yeah

[fluid latch]

Hello guys, can anyone advise me on what to build during my leveling ?
I'm new I don't know anything about the game

[shadow cloak]

Which server you at? And what level now?

[fluid latch]

I just installed the game, I haven't done anything yet x)

[shadow cloak]

Oh and you want to play Mercedes? Probably go look out what class and character you want to main first

[fluid latch]

i want to play archer for sure

[shadow cloak]

In my server A2Z, not many Mercedes

Probably more bowmaster and wind archer

[fluid latch]

what is the best archer class for you ?

[shadow cloak]

I like Mercedes, cause I played it on the PC version previously

[fluid latch]

Ok im trying Mercedes so thank you

[shadow cloak]

There a lot to do, the real game starts once you’re 250. It takes a couple of days to reach 200 on an average.

That also depends if you are F2P, or you want to spend on the game

[fluid latch]

Only F2P for the moment but if i love hard the game i can spend some money

[shrewd prism]

Any tip for mercedes vhila? run out mp too fast

[dry flint]

It is only Hp potion and Power Elixer that is locked, Mp potion is not locked in vHilla. So how can you possibly run out of Mp?
Unless you try to put PE on Mp slot to try heal your Hp, but it wouldn't work that way in vHilla cuz it is not meant to.

[shadow cloak]

Never had this issue

[nimble mango]

Used to ba a bug that MP pot is locked in practice mode, and the issue was fixed in the latest patch.

Can't remember it's auto update or not, you may check on appstore/play store for the small patch update.

[hardy hill]

vhilla is pretty good for us mercedes

we can move fast and can dodge stuff while attacking

[mint sluice]

anyone got an autobattle skill wheel?

[narrow kernel]

Does gust dive not work in auto battle?

[hardy hill]

it works, you just need to put it after a skill that make you jump

[narrow kernel]

Hm, I tried setting a preset with rising rush > leap tornado > gust dive and pretty sure it wasn't working

Suppose I'll mess with it after maintenance

[hardy hill]

if there's no mob it won't be used