Mercedes

[hardy hill]

is everyone doing like 2x more dmg during the first minute than the next 2 minutes of boss fights?

[spiral basalt]

Yea. That’s the nature of our burst

[hardy hill]

that suck, we really need some buff/rebalance, people with less gear and mdc are outdpsing me

[spiral basalt]

That’s merc for you

When u full abso60 you’ll be top but I guess anything but full abso60 you’ll be bottom tier. Like c tier.

[keen hearth]

Just take time to be strong

[hardy hill]

only reason that at lv60 abso you're the top is because of the clones that do 20% of main damage

[dry flint]

All we need is for MSM to give us this buff which they gave to our KMSM counterparts, and we will be in a much better place. But yet all we can do is hope...

[hardy hill]

hard to read, but duration increased? Yeah guess that would help a bit

[spiral basalt]

That’d be a nice buff. We just need that slightly better duration so we don’t fall off as hard

[hardy hill]

on 2024/03/06 they got this too

on 2024.01.10

on 2023.12.13

[spiral basalt]

This seems like a global change. I heard they are making most skill including v skill go down to 120s, not just for merc

The changes to v1 could be to compensate for the changes in how clone dmg is calculated

[hardy hill]

another from 2023.12.13

yeah might be global stuff

just looking at everything

2023.08.23

apparently this last one was just after they released hoyoung, maybe we'll get it soon so

and the one xDashx psoted, in clearer, from 2022.09.21

I prefer the iteration from 2023.08.23 lol

dang I shouldn't have checked this, now I want it

120s cd with 80s duration would be perfect

[keen hearth]

Facts

[keen hearth]

Is this with v skills maxed?

[spiral basalt]

That looks solid

[hardy hill]

oh and the last one they got change the power of the clones to 30/50/70 too, seems nice

[spiral basalt]

I’m afraid it’s to compensate for the clone changes that they got

[hardy hill]

kk idk about clone changes

anyway I put a feedback asking them to give us last kmsm mercedes changes

[spiral basalt]

Basically how clone work rn is it’s based off your actual dmg

Let’s say you can hit 20m in lotus

But your mdc is 18m and to account for boss defense, you hit 15m

A 25% clone will be based off the 20m line, hence your clone will hit 5m.

[hardy hill]

oh so clone ignore the mdc? Interesting, so could technically calculate your max mdc with that lol

[spiral basalt]

Clone doesn’t ignore mdc

To my understanding currently clone is based off your original theoretical damage of 20m from the example above

With the new clone changes, it’ll be based off your actual damage

As in it’ll based off the 15m based on the example above

In the example in the Korean patch, their example used a calculation based on you hitting your actual cap. However, in lotus and ark currently you cannot hit your actual cap (ie if you’re 20m mdc , you probably hit around 15m when ds4 is active). Exception is when there’s a shade.

[hardy hill]

oh I see

[spiral basalt]

So idk when the clone changes come here, will the clone damage be based off the 15m or 18m in my example above

hence, they buff the clone dmg ratio to help compensate

That’s my speculation

[hardy hill]

well 75% of 15m > 25% of 18m so seems like a buff

actually they were at 35% first clone somehow in kmsm

before that

[spiral basalt]

If it’s based off the actual damage of 15m, then it’ll greatly change the dynamic of how a lot of people gear and trying to cap clone. Because your clone is cap at 70% of your actual damage. There’s no way to cap your clone line to be the same as your actual damage

[hardy hill]

rip my dream of having the same min and max dmg on my battle report

[spiral basalt]

I think it might be an overall buff for us weaker archer.

[hardy hill]

well it balance the job

it won't affect na scania cause the only op mercedes was frenchie lol

[spiral basalt]

Yea

And you

[hardy hill]

I'm not op

[spiral basalt]

[hardy hill]

I'm getting close to 17m mdc but that's far from top players

with that mdc currently a mythic sia is getting close damage wise to me in a 3min fight (ark)

[spiral basalt]

A sia with 2-3m less mdc than us can probably outdps us

[hardy hill]

my first minute is 60-70b dmg then the next 2 are 20-30b

they catch us in the 2min we're useless

so giving us the adjustment to v skill cd would at least push us back toward the top as we can burst every 2 min instead of 3

so if currently we do 65/25/25 that give 38b dpm, with cd changes it would be maybe like 51b dpm

[spiral basalt]

Rly

I hope so

I don’t need to be rank 1 but def a boost in dps

This must be how Kaiser and marksman player feel

[hardy hill]

well there's duration changes too compared to what we got so might be less or more but yeah, as long as it boost I'd be happy even if I'm not top 1

[spiral basalt]

Same

[dry flint]

Yes I'd assume so. Typically, all the numbers shown in patch notes are values based on max levels.

[silent herald]

Buff mercedes please

V4 is weak 🥲

[halcyon dove]

dont see anymore mercedes pov

[spiral basalt]

It has been awhile since any merc put up content

[hardy hill]

need to be super geared for content to not be disapointing, that's why we see none

[arctic rapids]

actually there is a merc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cl8WbGBbNh4

[hardy hill]

I was sure we could just ignore the laser when on v2 from some other video

was it just freud?

[spiral basalt]

No. It’s mostly because most teams can burst p2 before lightning comes

[hardy hill]

I'm talking about the rotating laser in phase 1

[spiral basalt]

Oh v2

Nah. U still get hit by laser w v2

[dry flint]

Realistically we only have got Freud and Water shield that can dodge laser. But if you are talking about Frenchies's past videos, that's because he has Sacro on him

[hardy hill]

dang, our v2 cd is 2min now

v1 is still 3min

v3 is probably 2min maxed too

they ninja pushed the last balance for merc v2 somehow but not v1

someone with maxed v skill can confirm?

[sullen karma]

Lvl 29

[hardy hill]

yeah so they totally pushed the last kmsm version of v2 and left v1 like they had it 1 and half year+ ago

guess it's better than nothing

so we probably can
v1 > v2 >v3 at min 0
v2 > v3 at min 2
v1 > v2 > v3 at min 4

but yuck I want the v1 rebalance too. 120s cd, 80s duration and percentages are 35/25/15

[spiral basalt]

Wait was there a stealth patch?

[hardy hill]

yup

[spiral basalt]

Oh nice

[hardy hill]

I'm half happy about this I guess

[keen hearth]

Same

[spiral basalt]

So basically just a cooldown lowered for v2 that’s all we got?

[hardy hill]

it's the only thing I saw

I forgot what was my v3 cd before

mine isn't maxed but feel like it's 2min now

[spiral basalt]

V3 at max cooldown I think is 2 min also

[hardy hill]

was it 2min already?

anyway, before in a 10min fight, we could use v1-2-3 4 times each
now, you can use v1 3 times, and v2-3 5 times

unless you don't mind not using v1 along the v2-3

quickly like this it feel like a nerf

[spiral basalt]

Idk if we got longer duration on v1 tho

[hardy hill]

mine isn't maxed but I think it's 90sec

[spiral basalt]

But they def did reduce the cooldown on pony from 180s to 120s

I think v1 supposed to be 75s at max duration lv30

But they probably push the changes to give the 90s burst

[hardy hill]

90s is pre 2022.09.21 patch for kmsm

at this date they got 120s of v1

then later it went to 80s with 120s cd

so they pushed v2 from 2023.08.23 kmsm patch, v1 from something early 2022 or 2021...

nvm v1 didn't change

found this when scrolling

should we post a bug? It's cool that they updated v2 but it wasn't planned. If we play our cards well and it's seen then maybe they could finish the job and adjust v1

[dry flint]

I believe it is an unintended bug from lazy copy-pasting of game codes. Because it is not just merc, but multiple other classes have got the same "issue"

Emergency patch incoming soon I suppose. as usual with every single update. lollol

[hardy hill]

oh you're right

I checked some other class forum and some feel happy, but for us it's totally awkward

[hardy hill]

sad the patch reverted that

[crude crown]

It was a nice trial for what's to come (hopefully)

[hardy hill]

I noticed it after my daily ark too so didn't get to try it

[crude crown]

I read here and learned it was unintentional and didn't bother learning a new burst cycle

[hardy hill]

I did ark and I have the habbit of using v1 to 3 on the start of the fight and never have time to use it a second time since he's dead at this point, but after the fight I noticed v2 was up while it should've been

[hardy hill]

someone know if the debuffs from unicorn and spikes are stacking?

[spiral basalt]

I believe so. You see 2 debuff icons when they’re used

You can also just test in fog to see

If your dmg is higher w 2 debufff ơn

[azure gale]

Any good AB wheels out there for mercedes under lvl150?

[hardy hill]

Something like this should work, you won't have enlil until 170 but should work without #1059994632597028864 message

[hardy hill]

someone know if the debuffs from unicorn and spikes apply just for us or for other too?

[unreal summit]

it was for others too if I remember correctly

[spiral basalt]

Grab a guildie n test it!

[hardy hill]

ohhh v4 update, cross fingers for v1-2 upgrades with it

[keen hearth]

i'm reading up on it from pcms, we get invincible while casting it until it end and for 30 sec when skill is maxed...

[hardy hill]

might need to check kmsm description (or wait for patch note) to see what it does on mobile, but 30sec invincible would be crazy

[keen hearth]

going to be a fun bossing soon

hopefully global msm doesn't messed it up

[hardy hill]

I'm trying to find the kmsm v4 patch note to see exact text but not finding it, guess I'll take that for now

they just need to give us this along with v4 #1059994632597028864 message

if they do then yes it'll be fun

[keen hearth]

With that it would be v1-v3 and last couple sec or so, pop v4 for invincible for 40 sec...

[hardy hill]

it might duplicate by our clones

[keen hearth]

we'll be unkillable for 2 mins

[hardy hill]

it say a short time, so prob 5sec iframe

[keen hearth]

I'm watching the video from start to finished for v4 about 10 sec for invincible but hopefully it's longer

[hardy hill]

we'll see soon I guess

[keen hearth]

Finally got this

[hardy hill]

we could confirm the time if we find the kmsm v4 update patch note but I cannot find it

gratz, I'm still far from mine

[keen hearth]

First time clearing lotus

[hardy hill]

how are your stats in lotus?

I got my 1st one in a couple weeks

[keen hearth]

i forgot some buff (tangy) and didn't use elixir pots but v9 pots instead...

i got 9th in dps,

[hardy hill]

that's what I expect from mine if we don't get v1-2 update

lol

what's your mdc?

[keen hearth]

Currently with this pendant, I'm at 18.2m mdc but got to work on legion... (2999) @hardy hill

[hardy hill]

kk

[dry flint]

The entire skill duration (aka The Knight Summons itself with the colourful background) is for 40s, or whatever duration Nexon decides to give us.
The Iframe is only for the initial cast where the entire screen is "blocked", it is only about 3s or so. Similar to that of NW's Dominion hyper.
You can see here that the Merc takes damage even within the 40s duration of the skill. 40s iframe will be too broken. lollol
https://youtu.be/e3J38Y4DkQw?si=1f97j-uj8eEPJW1O

[keen hearth]

Thanks for the info

[keen hearth]

It's in Korean

[silent herald]

ied so low

sad

[silent herald]

korea version / 1248 hit

global version / 1664 hit

hit increase 33%

[hardy hill]

nice

now let's see if they make v1 and v2 at 120s cd

ah it's lower % that's why

well it'll still cap at 330%

[hardy hill]

there was a mention of some class getting rebalanced

I'll cross fingers while I sleep

[keen hearth]

same

[keen hearth]

so for the order of v skills:
v1,2,4 then v3?

[hardy hill]

v1-2-4, activate DS4 then V3

and repeat every {2} min

[hardy hill]

BUUFFS ARE HERE!

so beautiful

[marsh slate]

Any pre & post 200 bossing wheel available ?

[keen hearth]

They change v3 to 2 mins?

[hardy hill]

v3 was already 2min

[silent herald]

We've slightly adjusted the chain delays of some 4th and lower tier chain skills to make their casting feel more natural than before.

need to test haha

[hardy hill]

I only care about the massive bossing buff with faster v1-2, more lines and higher dmg clone

[hardy hill]

I keep reading new things everytimes I check in the patch notes, massive buffs

our v3 get about 600 more lines with clone

[halcyon dove]

Mercedes will rise again

[unreal summit]

thank god

[keen hearth]

We are going to be broken af

[hardy hill]

yes

[keen hearth]

Did you ss before patch?

[hardy hill]

I have a couple ark report, gonna see difference after tonight ark

[keen hearth]

Same

[hardy hill]

this is nuts

ark died 3x faster

and my dpm doubled

but I'm low on node slot lol

[keen hearth]

[keen hearth]

I need to buy 2k of nodes later

[sullen karma]

i got 26472 lines with lvl 21 v4 on a 3 min fight

[glad crescent]

Nerf

[hardy hill]

I wanted to test longer but my group ark ended in 1m13

[keen hearth]

[keen hearth]

Lotus p1 would be better test

[hardy hill]

tomorrow

on solo we keep gettign stunned by mobs

[keen hearth]

[silent herald]

Anyone die when auto quest or battle?

[hardy hill]

no

I even stack more hp pot than I was before

normally I need to buy some once in a while because I go back around 500 but I stacked 5k in yesterday night HT

[keen hearth]

Somehow I did...

[keen hearth]

Which map are you at?

[silent herald]

AF510

and dimension

What wrong with me

[hardy hill]

well I was in 170 because I'm still not high lvl enough

mobs in 510 are probably hitting hard

mercedes always been squishy to begin with

[keen hearth]

I'm dieing as well in af170.... they probably buff us really well but made our def really weak

[hardy hill]

I survive just fine idk

taking even less potion than before in 170

maybe they lowered the level to access but left the mobs as is

so if you're too low level they'll really hurt

[dry flint]

I think there is a bug somewhere but I cannot pinpoint it exactly. I just died randomly a couple of times in AF510, HVellum, even in Chaos Pinkbean (before the Pinkbean even spawn) among those that I have noticed. It cannot be gear-related if I am tombing in Pinkbean, I suspect it has got something to do with pets, or there is a trigger somewhere which requires further observation to determine

[silent herald]

Never die after i take elemental knight out

[hardy hill]

I got the random death too

during hra

we need to bug report this it's bad

I'll report actually

[silent herald]

Good job

[spiral basalt]

Yea I got a few random deaths myself

[hardy hill]

so turn out I just didn't had elemental knight on my ABWheel so that's why I wasn't dying

[silent herald]

I just try to put the elemental knight back on my ABWheel

after 30 mins

death

WTF bug is this

[hardy hill]

yeah it's bad

hopefully devs will fix soon

[wooden lynx]

Skill preset is bug

Dont use

[hardy hill]

it can kill on manual cast too

[silent herald]

cast which skill?

[hardy hill]

probably elemental knight

I died while buffing in hvel

[silent herald]

omg

[wooden lynx]

I have not, im still use elemental knight without problem but skill preset is there 🤡 i cant combo skill

[hardy hill]

I cannot eficiently buff without preset

[wooden lynx]

Your preset skill dont bug?

Its skill job3 Leaf tornado and gust dive cant use together….

[hardy hill]

these aren't in preset

my only death was while buffind just before h.vel

I had a preset with all 3 buff v skills, one with freud and vicious and then used elemental knight. I don't remember at which step I died

[wooden lynx]

Hm…… i still alive while buff elemental knight, and all skill buff i use pet so i dont know how @@ my problem just skill active cant use together

But only hvel or all?

Some people who escaped and then re-entered also died, only mercedes

[hardy hill]

I did other bosses without dying

[silent herald]

found bug

WTF lol

[dry flint]

So the elemental knights decide to rebel and attack merc. lollollol

[wooden lynx]

Hey i seem to be like you :)))) normal zakum and i die when is start🤡

[hardy hill]

nice finding, I'll stop using it until it's fixed

[wooden lynx]

Not usually 🙈

[hardy hill]

I was talking about นาEหัวเปียก getting the bug on video

[hardy hill]

that's kinda funny tbf

[crude crown]

There was that graphical glitch where they attack you after fair trade but now it actually hits

I thought I was seeing things when it happens

[spiral basalt]

Lol

[crude crown]

I find solace in fact my knights are strong enough to one shot me

[spiral basalt]

Well I never had elemental knight on ab so thank god I never die during the night

[hardy hill]

same but it suck that we can't use them

it's like 2-3k lines in 3min

if it happens when we use fair trade, what if we use fair trade before summoning them?

if that work then at least we can use them for bossing

actually probably not just fair trade since it happens during AB

[crude crown]

I haven't really been able to play game with the android error but I think it's only happened at some bosses

[hardy hill]

I died in a simialr way that song in vellum

so maybe

[crude crown]

It's happened to me at Vell and Cygnus so far

Chaos Cyg

[crude crown]

This might explain why I've also been dying more at AF fields

(hopefully)

[hardy hill]

I never died since the update but my wheel doesn't have elemental knight

try removing it, it doesn't do much for us during training anyway

[crude crown]

Alright. I probably should've much longer ago anyways

[hardy hill]

someone did lotus? I'm hoping it's not happening in there

[hardy hill]

they just need to make us imune to elemental knight damage

[sullen karma]

It kills you there also

[hardy hill]

thx for the confirmation, my guild do our first lotus tonight and I didn't want to waste a death

but they need to fix that, it's like 1000 line per minute

I won't use it I guess but that's some big dps loss

[spiral basalt]

I did not die randomly in lotus and I did have elemental knight on. Both.

[crude crown]

I'm actually surviving now

Auto battling

[hardy hill]

Nice

[spiral basalt]

I only do spike , wrath, lightning edge, and stunning strike

[hardy hill]

I was doing that before but added the 2 other for better af170 farming

else you stay at the same spot

I'll reevaluate once I reach lv225

[spiral basalt]

Did u do a mob count test ?

[spiral basalt]

And what’s in your preset there

[hardy hill]

it's the only skill in my preset

someone told me once that putting it in a preset was better so I kinda just left it there

and mob count is a bit higher I think

[spiral basalt]

Those skills are low dmg tho

At least spike n wrath are in my boost nodes

So they hit way harder

[keen hearth]

Knights hit you with the crit

[hardy hill]

I made a boost node for them for training lol

[keen hearth]

So basically avoid avoid using knights until bug is fix? @hardy hill @silent herald

[hardy hill]

yes, for training at least, you can take the chance for bossing if you want

I did ark for 20min yesterday and I don't think my death were due to the elemental knight

[spiral basalt]

Oh nice

Maybe I should do that

[hardy hill]

you only need 2, they cover all 3 skills

[hardy hill]

dang bossing without elemental knight suck

guildies asked me not to use it to save on lives and that's a dps chunk gone

[spiral basalt]

What boss is it

[hardy hill]

lotus and ark

[spiral basalt]

Ah

[hardy hill]

elemental knight is a lot of line

[spiral basalt]

U guys went back to 2 bish for shell or

[hardy hill]

for ark we always used 2 + a sia

[spiral basalt]

Yea. Evan is bugged also. We can’t use one of our v skill

[hardy hill]

I really hope it get fixed soon

plus I forgot to activate FT on lotus so my stats are bad

[spiral basalt]

Gotcha

I think overall a nice buff for merc. Def not S tier yet but much much better

[hardy hill]

ah and I forgot to equip v4 out of habbit too

[spiral basalt]

From c tier to maybe high b to low a tier I feel like

Idk if I wanna equip all v skill on pet or not

I’m used to using them strategically

[hardy hill]

I use them manually

[spiral basalt]

Lotus u dps nonstop so it’s fine but Damien if u are stuck doing orb or altar ud waste it

[hardy hill]

I just forgot to add v4 back to my preset

[keen hearth]

same goes for me

[hardy hill]

but in the end we used like 3 and it was 4min so next time I'm using it

well hopefully it'll be fixed by then

[keen hearth]

also the elemental knight are good if you get 2 reds

[hardy hill]

they removed 2 of the color I think

you only summon red or whatever they left

oh nvm it's the debuff effect that got removed

Removed Frost Spirit Debuff and Fire Spirit Debuff effects

[keen hearth]

[hardy hill]

so color doesn't matter

[keen hearth]

@median whale u still play mercedes? i havent seen u chat in a while

[brittle mirage]

This skill seem change new version? But i dont see infomation in update

Buff duration just 5 seconds

[severe jackal]

after the update i cant survive in af30 😢

[severe jackal]

is it good for training ?

[hardy hill]

I like it for AF170

there's basicly 2 ABwheel. The one I use and one where you remove gust dive and the other orange skill I forgot the name

If one doesn't work, try the other

if none work, use better potion

it that don't work put the potion at 90%

if that still don't work then get better gear and more AF level

[hardy hill]

cd got reduced from 180 to 120s

[brittle mirage]

Buff duration 5s?

[hardy hill]

that make a long time it's 5s

it's our iframe

[brittle mirage]

Bug skill?

[hardy hill]

you use it to clutch survive sure death

[keen hearth]

^

[median whale]

Negative

[keen hearth]

[keen hearth]

Hope you're doing well, what classes are you playing now or just quit msm?

[median whale]

Yah I had quit for a couple months. But then I got bored. I’m a shade now.

[keen hearth]

I friend told me they kinda nerf shade for the dps or something

[median whale]

Yah they screwed us good. Gave us a burst which we needed, then nerfed split. So dumb. Nerfing split hurt us more than the burst helped us.

[shrewd prism]

Hi guys after the update i cant survive in af170, some tips to survive?

[spiral basalt]

Shoulda stay merc. She’s so much better now

You’d be pretty op with your old gear. I’m not outdpsing some people who used to be higher than me in lotus

She’s still maybe a tier now, low s tier if you’re mega whale I feel like. But I def see an improvement against other players that I used to not to be able to outdps

[median whale]

Yah I’d probably be 230+ but it is what it is. Merc was very discouraging for how much money I had invested. But it’s all good. I’m free2play now other than AB.

[spiral basalt]

I hear ya

I honestly was willing to stick it out for 2 years for her

But I’m happy w where she is now.

Another small buff is all she needs to be considered viable

I heard kmsm shade already got fixed to 2min

That’s how it should have been. Fix shade split to 2 min, and compensate with a bigger split bonus. Everyone would have been happy w that. Idk what this 180s bs is

[median whale]

Yah I’m sure they will fix it soon with all the complaints about it. But I’m sitting pretty for now.

[fickle tulip]

am I the only one who dies wheni logout?

only happens to my merc

I was doing well Af 90 map before patch

[keen hearth]

Do you have elemental knight on?@fickle tulip

[shrewd prism]

Same, after update fell like paper

[keen hearth]

What gears are you using atm?

@shrewd prism @fickle tulip

Idk if either of you two seen the video of @silent herald post about the bugged elemental knight.

[fickle tulip]

yes

ill try removing

[fickle tulip]

seems like elem knight is the culprit

[hardy hill]

we've been talking about this for 2 days, sure it is, just scroll up and you'll see video

[keen hearth]

Lol

[silent herald]

we have to focus when elemental knight location is far from target

[silent herald]

our actual hit in 2 minutes

first highlight = Ishtar's Ring (level100)
second = Irkalla's Wrath (v3)

saddddd

🥲

[spiral basalt]

We need clarification. Are the 30% clone caps at that rate

[spiral basalt]

Anddddd confirmed 😦

[shrewd prism]

@keen hearth Worth removing knight now can survive af380

[keen hearth]

👍

[hardy hill]

how do you guys do the lach arcane dungeon? I'm unable to go pass lv 1

[young vigil]

you go into each room and attack and keep the music box yellow. there’s a bar at the top that shows your progress. once you’ve done enough i think it shows all yellow and you pass the stage

someone might be able to explain better than me

[hardy hill]

yeah I know how it work

just how tf is it even possible with mercedes

[young vigil]

use your mobbing skills

[hardy hill]

I managed to get to stage 4 and failed

[young vigil]

like you can one shot with just wrath and spikes

[hardy hill]

our mobbing is bad for this

[young vigil]

yeaaahh it’s rough

i think i got to stage 6 and was done ditto

[dry flint]

It can be done, but I'll say don't bother, it is just not worth the effort

https://youtu.be/Cx7cWunn6kY?si=OYA6rHG_nkwG68BH

[keen hearth]

I would think turning on fair trade, dash and use mobs skills would be the best idea.

I haven't done it yet tho

If your stats are high enough you should be able to 1 hit them

[spiral basalt]

What’s that madness? So we just run wround and kill mob for 1 hour?!

[hardy hill]

I 1 hit the mobs with spike and enlil but it's anoying

[crude crown]

I'm just content getting past the first stage lol

[crude crown]

I actually tried

I think we have great mobility and dropping spikes each room and shooting off any mobs leftover

Tbh I don't think it's worth it .. I had to give up and my hands falling asleep

Never again

[keen hearth]

[hardy hill]

dang all this for 10

[crude crown]

I just realized if I did one more I would've gotten 5 more symbols......

[keen hearth]

@hardy hill @silent herald @dry flint

[silent herald]

we are back haha

[unreal summit]

[hardy hill]

Finally

I did ark with them yesterday and they were 20% of my dmg so glad they won't kill us anymore

[hardy hill]

btw, how do you guys buff at the begining of a boss? We need to do 5 combo so it's kinda time consuming when we teleport and the timer go up soon after

[keen hearth]

What i do is V1, v2, buff, v4 then v3

[hardy hill]

is it faster to get 5 combo once v1 is activated?

[spiral basalt]

No. V3 will activate 5 stacks almost immediately.

[hardy hill]

hmm ok guess I an skip the 5 combo, but it's a few hits witohut 50% buff

[spiral basalt]

Each hit of v3 add 1 stack so the 5 stack is almost instantaneous

I wish they extend the debuff duration of spike n unicorn so it’d be worth to use

But w the new changes it’s not worth anymor

[hardy hill]

didn't they made them 15sec?

[spiral basalt]

Yea but standing still to get more hit in is worth more

We don’t need much help to cap anymore. U cap your main line you cap your clone

[hardy hill]

oh I didn't think it was working like that

if so then yeah totally useless

cause with 3min and 2min on v1-2 we can reset it before it expire

[hardy hill]

our damage graph from battle analysis still look ridiculous but at least it's peaking more often now

[spiral basalt]

How’s yours looking?

[halcyon dove]

good to share some charts

[spiral basalt]

We aren’t as bad for sure

Still not amazing yet tho. That’s my analysis today. I’m 25m

[hardy hill]

I'm only at 20.7m mdc

did you forgot your elemental knights?

mines did 11% of my dmg

I need to get my skills to 25

didn't had time to burst a 3rd time with my group

[spiral basalt]

Hmm. I had it on I’d think

[hardy hill]

feel like only 1 or not, mine did 2x more dmg than yours with less mdc

in ark my elemental knight do 21% of my dmg

[spiral basalt]

Oh yea

I’ve been testing to see if I still need to summon twice

Coz the description said it summons 2 randomly

I used to summon 2 before patch

[hardy hill]

just put back skill opacity to 100%, tap once and count them

I always used the skill twice, never verified if it was summoning 1 or 2

[spiral basalt]

Gotcha

I should test in fog

I did have skill opacity to 80%

That’s why I play merc. I LOVE HER V4 ANIMATION

[hardy hill]

lol

[keen hearth]

I'll post mines later today, got lotus tonight

[hardy hill]

I just tested elemental knight and look like it do summon 2

if I press the skill once a knight show, then if I move and press it again after cd, the first one I summoned disapear and new one appear

interesting, I'll stop trying to use it twice so

[hardy hill]

failed on the 3rd minute burst and buff?

[keen hearth]

Yeah and had very strong party

[keen hearth]

This one was previous last week run

[hardy hill]

kk already looking better

[crude crown]

Also the range has widened. I think maybe once they get a target they stick to it rather than them attacking in proximity of you

[hardy hill]

they used to follow us but when I summon them they seem fixed

well I was in town too

[spiral basalt]

Does it seem like u do more dmg when u use it twice?

So hard to test coz u gotta wait for the knight to die out

[hardy hill]

idk, but I notice Hellosan knight do little damage too. Do you have knight on your boost node?

anyway entering expedition cancel the knight I think so you prob can use this to reset them

[spiral basalt]

Yea knight on my boost node

I just tested it. One click of knight summon will summon both

I tested in fog with both using once and twice. Line count is the same

[hardy hill]

k

[spiral basalt]

Idk. Could be how we dps?

[hardy hill]

idk, your lotus had 416 line count in 4m30 for knight while mines did 1683 in 4m12

[spiral basalt]

I might have forgotten to summon it

[hardy hill]

lol

do we need to resummon them on each phase?

that might be something

[spiral basalt]

But that sounds about right then. Coz same duration knight should do similar line

Hmm could be that

[hardy hill]

I kinda did it by reflex

after activating FT on each phase

[spiral basalt]

I think I was half asleep in run above. But usually I keep knight n ft on second page, so I get in the habit of turning on ft and summon knight at the same time

[hardy hill]

might be better to check with ark

that gives about 600 lines per min on my last ark

hmm and my best was 1000 per min...

ok idk

[spiral basalt]

Have u ever tested what if we don’t summon all 4 v skill

I’m curious since if you cap , you’re capping all your clone

V1 v2 is 80s while v4 and maple goddess is 40s

What if we only use v1-2-3 together (I believe v3 benefitted from clone too, v2 is to ensure we hit cap on all lines)

I can’t log on merc but @hardy hill can you check, the fd buff from v1 is 30s or something right?

[hardy hill]

from the description?

[spiral basalt]

Yea

[hardy hill]

let me equip it, but it's not maxed

[spiral basalt]

I mean for v2, pony

[hardy hill]

oh

[spiral basalt]

The final dmg buff duration

[hardy hill]

look like as long as the v2 stand

[spiral basalt]

Idk why I remember it was shorter

[spiral basalt]

I see

So yea, what if we do v1-2-3 together. And after 80s, we use v4 maplegodddess and hyper buff, to ensure we still capping for the next 40s

We are waiting 80s before we use v4 tho, which could be lost dps

[hardy hill]

could worth trying

right now I just put goddess on auto buff and use v4 along the rest

[spiral basalt]

I manual cast everything to line up for burst

[hardy hill]

I stay mounted until the countdown

[spiral basalt]

But it’s annoying that I can’t preset and using the command setting with pony.

[spiral basalt]

Yea but w lotus n Damien , your burst won’t always line up, and ds4 might not be up when u pop them

So I just manual them

[hardy hill]

my skills aren't even maxed so I'm not bothering with aligning everything

[spiral basalt]

You gotta! At least w ds4. That was one of my downfall back then.

Coz lining up w ds4 is all about learning timing. Nothing to do w v skill level.

[hardy hill]

well my v3 cd is still too high

[spiral basalt]

Yea need that lv30. Makes a big difference

[hardy hill]

working on it, but node price is too high and I'm only getting a finite amount grinding every day

[spiral basalt]

Yea I need like 300-500 nodes to max everything

And waiting for node price to drop too

[keen hearth]

I do

[keen hearth]

Maybe

Nodes prices are high and waiting as well for price to drop to max them

[dry flint]

Pretty sure resummoning the knights on each phase matters, but I think there is also something else to it, maybe proximity maybe something else, I don't know either. I do double your hit count in less time and there is no shade split no pala echo in my run.

[hardy hill]

I might have forgot it in one phase too

[hardy hill]

and I died a couple time, I think we need tor esummon too and I might not have

[dry flint]

On a side note, Guided Arrow is nerfed to the point of oblivion, might as well remove the skill entirely if you are short on node slots. how sadd. lollol

[hardy hill]

I can see that

I may do for one more decent buff

I'm using decent SE right now so maybe adding SI or the other one I forgot

just checked my ark, 0.24% of the dmg, really sad

1.88% on lotus

[dry flint]

There is combat order or hyperbody, on top of sharp eye and speed infusion, depending on what your party has

[hardy hill]

but if we're actually already capping are more decent skill even useful

[spiral basalt]

Yea. Is yours lv30 there?

[spiral basalt]

Are you capping everything when off burst? Are u capping ADI? Tons of room for stat still

[hardy hill]

idk I never recorded myself to check

[dry flint]

Guided arrow is not lvl30 here, but still the hit count is pathetic. It would still be sad even if they had kept the 3 hit counts instead of the 1 hit count we get in this update

[spiral basalt]

Yea it kinda suck they nerf it but hey, I’ll take it over all the buff duration we got

[hardy hill]

true, small price to pay for the other buffs

[spiral basalt]

Found the bug where u guys said elemental knight wouldn’t target the boss anymore if u kinda out of range or something

[hardy hill]

that explains the knight hit count on reports

nice find

and crazy to do damien at lv209

[spiral basalt]

The struggles of being low level is real

[hardy hill]

lol

[keen hearth]

Holy... you're 209...

[keen hearth]

Ikr... how much %hp gears do you have?

[spiral basalt]

Hp% everywhere except gloves and shoulder. I’m rocking full ancient gear

All my rings have 1 line max hp%, pocket has 1 line max hp%, gold heart is 1 line max hp%

Top bottom are both 2 line max hp%

[keen hearth]

Wait what....

I have to re cube everything

[spiral basalt]

Yea. Lots of hp needed

[hardy hill]

hard take like 250k but I think normal is more around 180?

[spiral basalt]

Yea I’m 185k and I survive just fine

[hardy hill]

I'm getting close

168k here

[keen hearth]

I'm at 150k... going to have to rr all my gears to %hp

[crude crown]

[keen hearth]

Imagine if you have absolab gears

[hardy hill]

I have some hp on 2-3 pieces but that's it

Guild individual skill, necro that gives lot of base hp

[humble aspen]

why is merc considered a high funding class?

[keen hearth]

Rank S in classes, high dps and iframe

[spiral basalt]

It’s not anymore w these clone changes

[keen hearth]

What your stats now after re balancing? @spiral basalt @hardy hill

[spiral basalt]

Just got to 210 last night too

This is with decent skill buff

Was looking at my ADI line in Damien vs lotus, which is the only line I’m struggling to cap at my stat.
For lotus, my average is 15.33. My cap is 18.15m on my main skill. So 15.33 is probably my cap for lotus when you account that ADI line has no built in ied%.

In Damien, my average is 6m. And I can’t even hit cap on elemental knight and advanced final attack. My Evan is lv219 with just slightly better stat and he hit 12m per ADI line on average.

Evan stat for reference

[keen hearth]

Congrats!

[keen hearth]

I'm at 22.6m mdc, getting more stuff soon and need to rr pots

@dry flint are you writing a article? I see you typing for the longest XD

[dry flint]

Cuz merc has relatively low skill dmg which meant it was more difficult for merc to hit cap in comparison to most other classes. On top of that, merc clone lines could be indefinitely improved with better stats since the clone dmg were ridiculously low, meaning our dmg were not strictly limited by mdc. But all of this changed with the recent patch that hard capped our clone lines.

[dry flint]

Hahahaha. My keypad not working properly 😅😅

Also, beyond the hard cap on clones, merc is no longer the class with the most line count. So I will say we are no longer the best class with unlimited funding anymore.

[spiral basalt]

Yep

But much more enjoyable to play now. I’m glad I stuck it out w her

[humble aspen]

ahh ok

what is hard capping clone lines

[dry flint]

It simply means now every clone line has its own mdc which we can no longer go above no matter how high your stats are

[humble aspen]

ohh

whats their mdc?

[dry flint]

Yeah simply love the aesthetics and play style of merc

[spiral basalt]

Same here! When v4 pops tho

[dry flint]

Hahaha when v5 comes, you see full screen unicorns coupled with even better dmg

[dry flint]

70/50/30% of whatever your mdc

[spiral basalt]

[spiral basalt]

What server / stat you at now dash?

Got clips of how you run bosses?

[humble aspen]

wasnt it always 30%?

like the clone damage

oh wait but it had ur mdcs

ok nvm

[dry flint]

Ok correction, it looks more like reindeers than unicorns. Hahahaha. But it is labelled as 6th job skill in maplepc. So I don't know in what form they will come out as in mobile version

https://youtu.be/0sHACHbOnv4?si=ubfZ8AbQGS1jdyoA

Around the 6:30 min mark

[spiral basalt]

It looks so sick. I wonder how op we will be then

[dry flint]

I'm in A2Z. My stats ain't that far from yours. Nearing 47k PA, 25.5mdc

I've got videos pre v4. Have not done any recording post v4 yet

[spiral basalt]

Oh please share

Just curious if I’m doing something wrong

I’ve been debating saving maplegoddess for after v1 and 2 end, so we can maintain the fd buff. With all of our burst buff used, I’m definitely overcapping. With v1 and 2 being 80s and goddess 40s, we can have the extra fd buff maintain for the whole 2 min

[dry flint]

Somebody posted my pre-v4 lotus run in here before

#1059994632597028864 message

[dry flint]

I'm kinda too lazy to micro manage all the different cooldown. So I just put them all on pet such that they rotate through the same cycle, which isn't really optimizing I know. Except for v3 which I time it with ds4 + iframe from Freud if possible.

But 1 clear advantage I have over you is that I'm lvl 237, and that means more hyper stats and more V skills at the very least.

[hasty orbit]

I know this has been asked for a million times b4, but since im having trouble finding it thru my fone, can someone share their bossing/AB skill wheel/presets?

[spiral basalt]

Yea level is crazy important when it comes to Damien

I do so little dmg to him because of that and I don’t have extra slot to equip decent skill

Good thing they nerf guided arrow hard and compensate elsewhere so I have taken guided arrow off my v matrix

[spiral basalt]

Can’t do that in Damien!

But I guess since they buff us it’s not so bad. We’ll be able to squeeze v3 in since we have 80s of v1 and v2. That’s all that matters. V3 caps easily so all we need is v1 active

You should post some new content w v4 and such

[keen hearth]

Clone 1: 70%
Clone 2: 50%
Clone 3: 30%

[keen hearth]

AB skill wheel preset

[hasty orbit]

Thank you!

[keen hearth]

Bossing

[spiral basalt]

I recommend taking vicious shot out

It sucks

And only 40s in 2 min if u have it max.

[keen hearth]

I have all perfect trio, v skills, most of decent skills 🤷‍♂️

[spiral basalt]

B> levels for my merc

I’m penny pinching every slot

[hardy hill]

You missing ds4

Put it over that useless arrow skill

Guided arrow

[hardy hill]

I use a different setup

[keen hearth]

You'll get there, do you have lvl 40 pensilar set?

[keen hearth]

Do you have another set of perfect trio that lvl 25?

[hardy hill]

For training? Yeah I swap my nodes around when training

[keen hearth]

That make more sense now XD

[hardy hill]

Gotta optimize them slots

And your setup run lv56 on skills

[keen hearth]

3 more lvls until max, I can wait

[hardy hill]

Don't you have another trinode

To put lv10 like I did

[spiral basalt]

It’s on the same account as my main. So I only ab during cold time 😄

And I mean you don’t need unicorn n spike boost nodes. So those 2 could be for goddess blessing n blink n whatever skill u need

[keen hearth]

I threw it out for more nodes XD

[hardy hill]

Rip

[dry flint]

Technically you can do away with the preset if you are only using those 4 skills in AB, just arrange them accordingly on the skillwheel, and you will be able to save one more preset slot for bossing rotations.

I use this in AB. No preset needed.

But it hardly matters for me because even at AF510 everything just dies so quickly that I barely do chain-skills anyway

so what I do is just chain the skills 2 by 2

[dry flint]

For bossing, I have different set ups for different bosses. But generally speaking, you can refer to the link to my lotus video above for my bossing set up. But I swap Spike and/or Hero's Will and/or Stun and/or Teleport depending on what content I am doing

[hardy hill]

you don't need to have rope lift on the wheel for your character to use it

[dry flint]

oh yea that is true. but I like having it on as a reminder to whether or not I have done swapping my node skills for before/after bossing

[hardy hill]

oh right good idea. But last time I forgot to swap node I got 10 nodes in 6h

[hasty orbit]

Hit this today

[keen hearth]

Congrats

[hardy hill]

you now lost all your future luck by pulling that 0.03%

[shrewd prism]

Thse flames are good for wep?

[keen hearth]

Any advice for damien?

[spiral basalt]

I don’t have any merc specific advice tbh.

[keen hearth]

Just dodge, corner, dmg and fly?

[spiral basalt]

Pretty much

Merc doesn’t have any specific mechanic that help w any of Damien mechanic. We just squishy class w somewhat decent dps

As long u align v3 and ds4 while v1 and v2 is up, you should be doing optimal damage

[cobalt talon]

Hi, I'm lvl 145 new player. Where I can find stuff on what hyperskills I should level or what AB skills are better for me?

[sullen karma]

https://tenor.com/view/check-the-pins-kowalski-penguin-gif-20219688

#1059994632597028864 message

check this for AB wheel ^

[glad crescent]

🤣

[keen hearth]

First time clearing ndamien this week

[fleet stone]

WOOOHOOOO GRATSSSSS

[spiral basalt]

Nice

[frail spoke]

[spiral basalt]

You coming back frenchie?

[keen hearth]

I'm wondering the same

[fleet stone]

The legend

[unreal summit]

gif us some Merc lessons Frenchie

[keen hearth]

@silent herald I just seen your Sharenian run... damn son

[silent herald]

[keen hearth]

Teach me the ways..

[hardy hill]

I hate that pointless thing

last phase fire is just too random of a thing

[spiral basalt]

Little flex this week w new outfit

[humble aspen]

is that a cape or effect

is it rank 1 of the class?

or out of everyone

or is it a set of gloves

[spiral basalt]

It’s an effect for getting rank 1 mulung title for the class

[hardy hill]

kmsm latest merc changes

[spiral basalt]

Meh nothing too crazy

[hardy hill]

yeah only thing is more line on v4

more range on mobbing

and look like elemental knight become more flexible too

[keen hearth]

More lines but less dmg

[hardy hill]

for v1 it's a buff, v2 v4 too

lightning edge end up buffed too

doing about 1000% more dmg

[spiral basalt]

V1 thats roughly 300 more lines

V4 roughly 100 more lines

So adding another 400 lines over 2 min. Not bad.

[hardy hill]

I did count the total %

when saying it was buff

[opal estuary]

Is Mercedes have double jump up?

I mean while jumping, tap up arrow and jump up again.

[spiral basalt]

Yes

[opal estuary]

Just like this skill of Adele?

[spiral basalt]

Yea it’s a double up jump

[opal estuary]

Thx you

Im interest in Mercedes cause of the Unicorn riding one lol

This class need a lot of finding?

*fund

[spiral basalt]

Average funding now id say

Much easier than before

You in na scania?

[keen hearth]

Yes- If you want to do end game stuff (damien, Lotus, Will and etc )
No- just to play around and do some of the bosses

[opal estuary]

Yea I am

[opal estuary]

Noted

Im just need my second character for lotus and bore of my main , way on finding my 2nd main tho

[hardy hill]

any of you in AF380 and getting good nodes drops? I've been getting really low amount of node since going to 380 so wonderign what's up

[keen hearth]

I got a lot in AF380, do you have mpets?

[hardy hill]

yes

averaging at like 0.6/h

[hardy hill]

what skills do you run and what's your team?

[keen hearth]

Team is evan, battle mage and shade, the training skills + v4

[hardy hill]

a team of 4 too... Been running with 1 other people because 4 was bad and been getting really low amount of nodes

actually so far in 380 I got one time 8 nodes, few times 5-6, rest were 3 minus

per hot time

[keen hearth]

Are you running 19/7?

[hardy hill]

no

[keen hearth]

That might be y I'm getting a lot lol

[shrewd prism]

Party debuff work on maplestory m?

[hardy hill]

before clone change, more cd gears was better for merc, but wonder what's the cd/ba ratio should look like now

[spiral basalt]

Still same

I’m still struggling to cap n I need more cd

Beside cd having more effect on skill dmg %

When we full buff, we get campdire, shrimp, tangyoon, boss rush, all increase your ba by a lot. Meanwhile cd can only be increased thru chestnut

Hence having more cd is more beneficial

[keen hearth]

What your current CD %

[spiral basalt]

I think 440 unbuff. It’s pretty low

I’m struggling to cap final advanced attack in ndamien at 26m

[keen hearth]

I'm about the same 5:1 and 25m
Missing belt and weapon soul

[spiral basalt]

Yea capping in lotus is easy now. Damien is rough when you’re low level

[keen hearth]

What your bossing % unbuff

I have to start getting ready for lucid

[spiral basalt]

This is unbuff stat

I’m full ancient gear so missing out on necro and abso set effect

[hardy hill]

I'm 5:3 on cd:ba ratio, wondering if I should try to swap an item for cd

[spiral basalt]

If you have the resources

Or maybe I’m playing on hard mode coz as a lv211 it’s rly hard to cap in Damien unless insane gear

Most players who do Damien are 220 and 230+

[hardy hill]

I'm at 395% cd and not doing damien so can't say

401*

well my emblems are kinda low level too cuz I never had time to work on them

can get 40% cd from there

[spiral basalt]

You def want at least 450%

[hardy hill]

how do you even have so much pdi

and fd

and everything

[spiral basalt]

we get a lot of pdi from passive

3+3 mset.

Lsw

[hardy hill]

never checked if the 50% from ignis was appearing in there, might explains if so

well for pdi at least

my lsw is maxed

not sure where that 50% cd come from suddently

oh was missing some of the buffs I guess

I might be ok, once I max emblem that'd be 500

[spiral basalt]

Nice u def have better cd than me

[hardy hill]

I'm surprised you do hard damien with this low hp too

make me feel like I could stand on damien and laugh when compared to yours

[spiral basalt]

I do normal

I don’t use hyper body for normal anymore. I’m rocking 155 or 160k in normal

[hardy hill]

ah ok

[spiral basalt]

Opt for more dmg now

Normal is forgiving enof, esp with the new changes to PE cooldown

[hardy hill]

I opened a slot by error so had to fill it with something

so put decent hb in

[spiral basalt]

I wish I’m high level like u guys

[hardy hill]

only advantage is more node slot

and AF I guess

[spiral basalt]

Af is better attack n node slot means u can equip decent skill

I can’t equip any decent skill in Damien rn

[hardy hill]

I have 14 node slot

and even with more AF you got more atk than me

guess the lv50 weapon have something to do with it but welp

[keen hearth]

Working my way to lvl 50

[spiral basalt]

I do have pretty decent attack scaling on my gear and the lv50 helps a ton

Damn your abso gear looks sexy n necros too

[keen hearth]

Thanks and getting lvl 50 stuff next month

[spiral basalt]

Surprisingly only 25m mdc w those. I’d think u have more

[keen hearth]

If I get the gears I need next month and rr soul, I should be at 31m ish

[hardy hill]

I hate radian exalt

failed 3 recently

if they worked my armor would've been lv48 QQ

[spiral basalt]

Urgh

[hardy hill]

turn out my cd was higher because I was in eos with exp buff and my flame scale mostly to exp

[spiral basalt]

But you’ll struggle to bring that ba up

[hardy hill]

higher by only 20% or so

[hardy hill]

actually nvm might have been something else

[hardy hill]

turn out my stats were low because I was on my hyper stat second page

[spiral basalt]

[hardy hill]

I was wondering why my damage was bad in ark and guild stuff

[spiral basalt]

Happened to me before too

[keen hearth]

Use 1st & 3rd row

[hardy hill]

3rd is totally useless for ABing

[visual perch]

If u guys had 1 slot on pet, what buff u using for ab?

Ancient warden?

[keen hearth]

HS

Always going to need more exp

[visual perch]

Sorry, meant to say node farmer

[hardy hill]

we have like 2 buffs, just pick the one that give the most

ignis roar

it gives 40% p.dmg

ancient warding have 15% evd that maybe could be useful if you die a lot, but idk how efficient it is

[crude crown]

What's the 5th hyper stat we should do?

After MDC, PD, ADI, FD

[crude crown]

Sick thank you!

[hardy hill]

I was told to keep your points for future update where the max lvl go up

well guess there's always the reset

[spiral basalt]

What do u mean

[hardy hill]

I was told that the max lvl go over 20 on kmsm

[crude crown]

Dang

Well I had use some discount tickets for something

[unreal summit]

Dam and of u reset u have to pay again for it ?

[hardy hill]

you only reset the category, so if you add in BA you can reset BA only, but yeah you lose the meso

[spiral basalt]

It’s dumb. Thế meso should be refunded. It’s so much

They refund gp for resetting individual guild skill. They should for this too

[unreal summit]

Yea so if i have phy dmg, max dmg, Final dmg And boss att and u reset u can only reset one category ?! Ore will there be reset all of them ?! And yea that sucks from the messos

[hardy hill]

it'll reset only the line ou want. I had some points in sf from earlier, resetted just sf and that's it

[unreal summit]

Aaah oke thats not that wure than just some messos lose would be wurse if it reset all and u have to pay for all of them again haha

[hardy hill]

you did it wrong going for BA over ADI too btw

ADI is like 4-5% of my damage on boss

[crude crown]

I have some put into CD I'll need to reset at some point

Burnt mesos

[jovial brook]

i need skill wheel lvl200 for bossing guys

[hardy hill]

ishtar ring, your v skills, the dash, the fairy summon and your iframes/v skills utility

[keen hearth]

^

[hardy hill]

Mercedes bossing is super easy, you start with summoning your fairy, then v1, v2, use v4 when boss is there, use v3 and then hold ishtar ring until you can reproc your v skills

[median walrus]

hi anyone have an autobattle skill wheel for pre-200? this is for alt/legion

[hardy hill]

it's been posted a lot, scroll up, it's the same from 170 to 300

[manic bobcat]

I have mer 200 but I don’t know perfect trio, v matrix setup and skill wheel. I need help. Many tks

[hardy hill]

scroll up they've been posted before and didn't change

[lusty solar]

Hi, sorry i cant seem to find any post about hyper passive skills. The best should be for end game dps should be the 3 ishtar ring, ignis roar reinforce and ?

[manic bobcat]

3 isha 2 ignis

[lusty solar]

For the last ignis which is to prolong the buff duration, i wonder if it can make a good difference? Normally if i keep chaining the combos, the buff duration will not run down? Or is it because post 200 you will not do as frequent combos to keep that duration active?

[keen hearth]

If you have mpet put the skill on it

[storm bramble]

when you do your combo you will be stuck in animation, and do less dps. you only wanna do combo to maintain buff. if not multi target. so if you want to minmax buff duration is the way to go

[lusty solar]

Got it, thanks!

[hardy hill]

you only combo during grinding

during bossing you get the stack from v1

I never do a single combo during bossing

losing too much dps

and with the 3min duration doesn't need anymore too

[shrewd prism]

pony and spears debuff?

[spiral basalt]

Woulda use it if they make pony n spike debuff 30s long. 10s is just bad

[lusty solar]

Im curious how about guild honor battle when the boss is the octopus? I am reaching 170 soon but will comboing still be better now? I hate the constant jumping which brings my merc above the octopus

[keen hearth]

Make the octopus move the further of the left or right side. Use the skill wheel of lightening edge, wrath and spike repeatedly until time run out

[hardy hill]

v1, v2, v4, move the boss to the side then v3 and finally the combo, and you lose the GHB anyway because it's still bad aoe

you just gotta hope to get single target more often

[keen hearth]

They are soon to be 170 lol @hardy hill

[hardy hill]

they'll know for later then

[lusty solar]

😄

Thanks for the cool tips here!

[manic bobcat]

Should I upgrade priority V skills or upgrade PerTrio first?

[keen hearth]

Trio then v skills

[manic bobcat]

tks u

[coral ice]

anyone got combo for mercedes below level 170?

im new to her and idk what to do

[coral ice]

Ok tysm

[coral ice]

Then for the skill wheel is it just this preset or do I need to add others?

Only for ab since below level 200 building a boss wheel is not worth

[keen hearth]

This should be fine for preset for abing below 200

Even now, I'm still using it (232 atm)

[coral ice]

I just realised I don't have the level 170 skill yet lol

I'm cooked

[manic bobcat]

So what is the preset above 200?

[keen hearth]

Sorry meant to say is this is the same for abing until 250 @manic bobcat @coral ice

What change is the skill wheel for bossing after 200

[hardy hill]

there's a second wheel for more height

it was working well for AF170

[coral ice]

ok ty

can i use that wheel in bossing?

or is there a diff wheel?

[keen hearth]

Bossing different

2nd, 3rd and 4th

[crude crown]

Why sharp eyes twice?

[keen hearth]

I don't know what other skills to use after

[coral ice]

Ok ty

[keen hearth]

Put the skills any way you want.
Ex:

[worn sigil]

I can’t find a video on Mercedes hyper skill

[hardy hill]

what are you doing for octopus GHB? You don't have the combo on your boss wheel

[spiral basalt]

Dashing around on unicorn is too much repositioning imo. I gót horrible score w it.

For me, I’ve had best result w using ishar and have a preset of unicorn spike wrath. Use preset off cooldown and ishstar in between.

[hardy hill]

this is what I'm doing too but yeah was wondering since he doesn't have that preset on

[worn sigil]

Why can’t I find a video on Mercedes hyper skill wraith of enlil

People only post up to 4th job and don’t show hyper skill

[crude crown]

Imagine your character at bottom left

It's forgettable unless in leveling and mobbing

[worn sigil]

Oh ok

[hardy hill]

people are making video of bossing and mercedes bossing is 1 skill + v skills so yeah, not much to shjow of other skills

[worn sigil]

Is this class better than Adele

[spiral basalt]

Adele n merc are similar in the sense of it’s a buff n dps class. Your boss knowledge n good burst timing and lining up your burst w ds4 is what makes the difference between different merc players.

[hardy hill]

I never tried bossing on adele on msm but on pc adele was more work than mercedes

[nimble mango]

Hello. My Mercedes has just hit 200 today, may I ask which V skills should I prioritise first and what are Merc's perfect trios to look for.

[worn sigil]

Isn’t Mercedes a good mobber since they move across the map pretty well

[hardy hill]

worst mobber ever

it's almost a pure bossing class

for v skills, v3 is the most important, and the rest are equal

for trio scroll this chat

[nimble mango]

Thank you so much

[spiral basalt]

I don’t think we are thattttt bad

[hardy hill]

the kill count per hour is really low compared to other class

a sia do like 12k mob in 1h EoS, mercedes will do like 5k

[spiral basalt]

Eos isn’t a good comparison tho

[hardy hill]

it gives similar result in a map

[spiral basalt]

But we def nowhere s tier

I’d say we are low a tier for mobbing

[hardy hill]

I get even less kill per hour with people actually

last time I checked it was in 170, I was at like 3k/h and my partner was doing 9k+

[spiral basalt]

But getting less kill per hour doesn’t necessarily mean your weak. It’s coz u have a lot of lumi n ilm and whatnot who is really good at map clearing

Pally is a worse mobber class for sure

[hardy hill]

well even if we're not the worst we're at the bottom of the list

[spiral basalt]

Lucky for us mobbing don’t matter that much. Just make sure we in a premade party w good mập clearer

[hardy hill]

yeah

but I'd still consider mercedes as a pure bossing class

[spiral basalt]

Waiting for the day when classes w short burst get weaker n classes w long buff duration like us get stronger

[worn sigil]

I mean mobbing is for mesos farmers anyway

Usually see the same in sf

Cadena, sia, phantom, kaiser