Aran

[gentle apex]

Perma, beyond blade. Thats all. Dont put other skills. If you put other skill, you gonna waste ur time, etc hunter prey which u waste 10 sec standing there doing nothing

Dont need put origin or v4 too. Imo they waste time

Actually, aran is a waste of time now. Just create and reach lvl 220 and move on.

[summer owl]

anni reroll event pepeprayge for you guys

im not a main and it already feels bad to play

[gentle apex]

Nah bro. Imagine you been waiting for a game to come out for years and when it finally came out, you realised the developer probably just spend 10 mins creating the story line. Its like a stab in the back to the supporter. Pretty sure most of the aran main here felt betrayed. But doesnt matter, their focus was never aran anyway. I will try my best to reply whoever who need help. Meanwhile please excuse me. Gotta play other games

[summer owl]

#buffaran

[west bane]

#buffaran

[idle stirrup]

Hi bro, mind to share how ur v4 get 3k hits ? the max i can get is around 2k

[rigid pendant]

v4 now only stacks on beyond blade

compared to pre-patch when it did with origin etc

so whenever you use v4 only spam bb during its 10sec buff duration

[idle stirrup]

thanks for sharing such detailed works! can i know after the 55sec burst done, then jus wait for the overload done cd and repeat?

[tribal atlas]

Yes, in between the burst, just use Beyond..

[wary forge]

So far now I see best choice for passives >>>

Permafrost >FD
Rush
All BB

I tested permafrost with and without FD.

I saw up someone said Finisher > FD. But this not included Vmatrix which is bad 🚶‍♂️

[lilac sierra]

more dmage output overall?

[wary forge]

Well yes, more 500m per 30secs and depends on ur stats. I spends 300 crystal for reset and test

[lilac sierra]

and FD is once per adrenaline?

so the frequency of permafrost occurs more than FD?

[wary forge]

Sorry I confused 🤦‍♂️

No it's not during adrenaline active. Permafrost u can activated anytime and staying 1mins

I just test with 30secs and compare with and without

[full shale]

How are you guys damage in ghb and culvert after remaster? Is it much lower?

[void rune]

200k lower

[lilac stirrup]

Is Aran better to Main than Shade?

[proud quarry]

Ghb lose 100b

[gentle apex]

Can work as well. At the end of the day check if u are capping. if you are not, then choose finisher, else perma frost is nice to add some additional damg.

[hazy lintel]

No

[vast temple]

What's your the pr for ghb

[proud quarry]

5kb

[vast temple]

Being nerfed sucks, but that's neglctic amount..
Tbh playing aran as a boss mule the kit feels very good. You could always be a battle mage before the last change to shield 😂
Awful total DPS, 40 sec long "burst" with one 10 sec iframe and not recognized as support ....

[tranquil apex]

'class feels good as a mule' thanks man

[vast temple]

Class's kit feels good. You won't understand what you have till you play a class with bad kit 🤭 aran isn't one of them

[wary forge]

Still am not capping, but additional dmg yes I need and finisher it's says that not including Vmatrix which useless for me.

[wary forge]

Before update I reached 3.5b now 3.1b

[rigid pendant]

100b?

1000b more likely right?

I went from 5500 to 4600 or so

culvert went 624k to like 520

[graceful furnace]

Any one have a ab wheel yet?

[novel maple]

im using the same one as the bossing wheel that @tribal atlas posted.

@heavy leaf could this be pinned pls.
including the skill rotation use

the bossing wheel is very specific and prob only needed if you wanna min/max bossing dmg

or @night dirge

[short lake]

my culvert only went down 37k

think partly cause so many skills to use now cant get all of it in a 15 second ds4 window

[void rune]

Biggest problem now is, pressing the skills only to realize either the skills are in CD or because I just exited adrenaline (and I need to wait another 10 seconds or more). By said time, DS 4 or the team would’ve alr completed their burst cycle.

Also if we’ve missed turning off adrenal awakening activate buff, it automatically triggers whilst everything else is in cool down. This means you would have flushed your burst cycle down the toilet without even noticing it.

In a typical bossing environment, the most tiring part is to watch for 4 skills (and cool downs of these skills, Hunter’s, Surge, Last stand, AA (Adrenal Awakening )) + adrenaline rush (AR) + DS4 + boss attacks + survive. There’s just too many criteria to meet before being able to burst.

On top of that, actual output time required for blizzard tempest is actually 13 seconds for the full cycle, instead of 10 seconds.

Don’t mind the nerf actually but the mechanics are really killing me.

[elder chasm]

I’m new to Aran, can I know the finisher - hunter prey. How it actually work, just press and hold the skill toward the boss ? And the skill hit count 192 ?

Or just press and release only ?

[stuck warren]

More and more i try aran and shade, shade seems so much better. Or am i using this aran wrong?..

[wispy magnet]

You are right, dev made Aran more complicated.

If I'm not wrong, BB speed got nerfed as well, it was smooth before remaster

[wooden meteor]

How do I use the hyper finisher skill? I am kinda confused

[restive lichen]

does aran worth investing as meso farmer cos the aoe looks strong

[wary forge]

Totally right, I can't focus on CD for next rotation to activate AA specially in vHilla I have to avoid red line as well sooo many things drive me crazy.

[wary forge]

If u hold it u'll be invisible for short time otherwise u can just press and make dmg

[wary forge]

Refer to pin u'll see how to activate it >> 2 ways

[pastel crystal]

U r not alone, finished them both lvl220 3 days ago and did a lot of boss runs to test, almost same stats on both, Shade is waaaaaay smoother than Aran. Aran need so much effort to just keep up the dmg and even after these can merely catch Shade.

[stuck warren]

ok then, i wasnt too wrong then hahaha

yeah, same gears, but bossing sucks on aran rn

[pastel crystal]

Adrenal Awakening’s mechanism is such a pain to manage

[summer owl]

U need to be on adrenaline, the maxed out version of adrenaline

[frank sage]

Aran is combo class too, so mobbing is more difficult

[proud quarry]

https://youtu.be/yWmBbQANr8I?si=yTZatpwbH3b5zbaW

Guys, it's said that his sc score went from 1.7m down to 1.4m. How come got ppl saying that aran nerf 10%?

Or he just doesn't know how to play in new mechanics?

[tribal atlas]

I think for the 1min battle is about nerf 10%, I tested in Guild Honor Battle. But I agree for the long time battle, it should be nerf more than 10% because of the speed of Beyond I guess..

[rigid pendant]

Yeah losing 2k+ lines from BB in 3min test

its rough

Hard to align cooldowns with ds4 too

Self heal is all gone

idk

They need to buff something at least..

We had fun for a few months now Aran is back to being a joke

Not just in dmg but playstyle is anti-fun

[still bane]

how were you guys AB, which skills did you use. I have about ~50hr of aran ab tickets and don't understand her kit at all

[tranquil apex]

can't farm the map I was farming before update, used to be potion positive now it chugs 1k and dies 😭

[lofty sandal]

The drain nerf is just 😡 used to be able to just eat archon hits, now perma low health. Same with other bosses and guild scramble.

[grizzled vigil]

Yeap, super nerf

[wooden meteor]

So hyper skills are those below?

• Finisher - Reinforce
• Adrenaline Rush - Persist
• Beyond Blade - Reinforce
• Beyond Blade - Extra Strike
• Beyond Blade - Deadly Crits

[undone acorn]

hi new player here is it still worth to do edge of space dungeon post 200?

[worthy stump]

why sell

so many ppl selling aran gears 😂

[summer owl]

The class became doo doo

[worthy stump]

selling 10b is such a joke , i would consider if 4b right now lol

[idle stirrup]

Totally agree on this, its just too many things to take note of, not to mention some bosses mechanics which need to avoid also, it really too many things to monitor on the tiny screen.

1. Hunter pery from no cd to 30s cd, already reduced our hitcount
2. The extra BB hitcount during adrenaline rush has been replaced with ice flow and golden burst, not to mention, its with CD also, which the damage and lines are not significant enough to compare with the old days
3. Too much skill dependent on the adrenaline rush activation time and overload, 2min cd on overload is just too long, which makes the hyper skill useless indirectly. Not to mention when the hyper skill cant activate due to overload is having cd, which also wastes a few seconds during boss, meaning wasted few hits on BB as well, which leads to short of damage.
4. The V4 (Blizzard Tempest) removed the stun, which is a good move, but now only takes count from BB itself, which makes our damage also drop a lot compared to the old days.
5. This is from my own findings of BB comparison in 1 min:
   Pre-patch vs Post-patch
   •⁠ ⁠No. of times hits: 88 vs 115+-
   •⁠ ⁠⁠No.of lines 1950 vs 1543
   •⁠ ⁠⁠Avg line per hit: 22 vs 13
   If V4 is solely dependent on BB only, it means the over damage also dropped based on this comparison.
6. Aran wasn't the top DPS class in old days, now the remaster makes it even worse, I see the majority also feedback that the overall damage dropped at least 10%.

I have been playing Aran during PC, and since day one playing on MSM, of all the Aran remasters, this is the most disappointed from my opinion. The only things i love about it was the animation (which makes my phone more laggy too, even tho already turned off all the animations during bossing)
This really makes me feel like giving up this game after 8 years

Need everyone feedback so that Nexon can do something on it.
#revertaran #1059994472890515546remasterfailer #buffaran

[wispy magnet]

To fund my shade😂

[wispy magnet]

Sold at 6b

[worthy stump]

not bad bro

[worthy stump]

lol i'm selling my shade to fund my DS 😂

[wary forge]

I make decision to change another worrier. But have anyone heard about rebalance from kmsm for Aran? If something good news I'll wait if not, recommend for me who I should pick? Atm paladin in my mind

[worthy stump]

even there's rebalance you will have to wait for years lol

[stuck warren]

U know thats the answer

Aran is dead

[worthy stump]

paladin no doubt the best

[stuck warren]

Pala is always alive

[wary forge]

Imagine before I pick Aran I was comparing with Paladin 🚶‍♂️

[stuck warren]

LOL

[rigid pendant]

Finally someone other than me writes a feedback!

If it’s true that kmsm got some update with improvements then yeah we’re probably gonna have to wait a year for it or so

Almost nobody plays Aran and now most of those will quit lol

Just buff the bb hit count and we’ll be fine damage wise even though gameplay sucks at least it would bandaid the pain a little bit

[summer owl]

i think the class will get buffed in the future but the problem is can yall wait for that to happen

but what if the buff is dissapointing

i think if u like aran u will stick to it

problem is now the class feels like a new class

im not an aran main on mobile im just playing for the event but i mained aran on pc before, this feels like shii

[wary forge]

Buff!!! If so they should buff aran from kmsm ver. 1sr as they got remaster last year, am sure they complained as well. But no one speak about buff even original MS same issue. If we didn't got any respond from developer, it's time to move on

[proud quarry]

I've decided quit everything.

This version of aran is same as korea version now.

Kmsm after aran remaster they buffed two times, and the stats now are the same with gmsm.

Only if in the future kmsm buff aran will gmsm keep up with

The original remastered aran in kmsm was even worst than now of gmsm one.

[summer owl]

Yeah problem is barely anyone plays aran

Aran on all platforms

Are really bad

Even in pc is the same

They killed the entire class and made a new one

And the reason being “no one plays the class”

This is what the pc director said

Last year

[wary forge]

Well it's means no hope.

[proud quarry]

Let's quit and sell everything, there's no point wasting time and money on this 💩

[summer owl]

Either quit or reroll

O7

[wary forge]

Am thinking reroll to either pal or demon slayer if sthing happend in future I'll quit for sure

[summer owl]

Safe option is pal

Pally is future proof

Sacro and echo is needed

[meager dragon]

What skill to focus? (V1-V4) got loads of Exp nodes

[weak vault]

anyone has the ab wheel pre and post 200?

only saw bossing in pineed

[weak vault]

thank u

[tribal atlas]

I have a lv259 Paladin in my Aran account, so I just wanna wait for another 2 patches to see any good news for Aran, if no good news like increasing the speed of BB, then I will move everything to my Paladin.

[weak vault]

wait for july, there is rebalance

[wary forge]

I'll do same, will see after rebalance

[rigid pendant]

Tbh ill just rather quit than swapping to another character

There's a reason for me playing Aran for 6 years or so

[proud quarry]

Aran or nothing

[summer owl]

Just stick to it then

Theres still mastery core 234

Im positive they will buff aran for sure

Problem is do you feel like this class is still the aran you played or not

Dmg can buff but class identity cannot

[rigid pendant]

It's mainly the class identity in my case, I would be fine with a nerf in dmg as long as I still enjoyed playing it but now with both damage reduced and playstyle changed completely it just does not feel like Aran anymore which is my main issue with this remaster.

I just can't force myself to enjoy it

[worthy stump]

hey my marksman deal way a lot more dmg than aran 😂

[summer owl]

Mm is super underrated tbh

But ahhran

[worthy stump]

yea , not sure why many ppl anti MM , my MM one shot in af130 but still get kicked out party like twice 😂 but nvm she just alt , i used to make her my main damn

and her burst power is huge af

[summer owl]

Yeah mm my fav archer

Strong burst strong early game

Cuz the snipe is 100% cr

Basically half a necro

If u get necro its even better

[manic shadow]

Does necro even do anything for snipe, though??

[summer owl]

Yes

Extra cr

[manic shadow]

But does 200%+ cr do anything?? I know the one skill increases cd with excess cr, but that skill caps out pretty fast, no?

[summer owl]

Don’t have to worry too much about higher boss

Higher boss more crit res

U deal less dmg

[manic shadow]

Oh, boss crit res means it subtracts your crit rate, not crit damage??? Didn't know that, I assumed they just decreased your cd. Weird

[tribal atlas]

I forgot to record my boss run before remaster, but I just record what I did yesterday for vHilla, Chaos Lucid and azazelle. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LtvMQldpikw&t=186s

[frank laurel]

what skill is this? or can i only unlock it at 250

[fluid heron]

Hey guys any one can send me ab prest skill and boss skill prest

[agile goblet]

is mahas carnage not worth on skill wheel for AB? feel like it shreds

[wary forge]

Yes add it 🤦‍♂️

[full shale]

This is mine, i copied rank 1 aran inosys server from above video. Bossing skill wheel

[full shale]

Yes unlock at 250

[rare summit]

Fug

[fluid heron]

You got ab also ?

[soft plover]

Hello, just finished hyper burning aran, what are the first 6 skills I should go for with my boost nodes ?

[rigid pendant]

Make a second beyond blade preset

Otherwise you lose about 500 lines on v4

Because during v4 you only want to spam bb

not the other ones

[wicked rain]

perfect trio for aran now?

[manic shadow]

Scroll-less sfing legendaries = f around and find out

[grizzled vigil]

IMO all they need to do to fix the class is remove the drain nerf

Aran is the best it ever was pre-demaster and it’s sad they had to ruin the perfect class like this but I can take it all if drain wasn’t nerfed

[trim sable]

Is there a reason why endgame whales don’t fully invest on mythic accessory star forcing?

I noticed alot of whales recently don’t really touch on that accessory

[void rune]

Anybody has the KMSM 2nd mastery core description for Aran? Think it’s Hunter’s prey but not sure if it improves anything

[shadow radish]

https://m.cafe.naver.com/ca-fe/web/cafes/31347475/articles/1860?fromList=true&menuId=8&tc=cafe_article_list

[void rune]

Thank you big bro Rubedo!

[proud quarry]

Actually it improves nothing

Remove 30secs cd, or it still the same.

[wary forge]

I see nothing improved I mean hit count or dmg ??

[rigid pendant]

50k under my pre-demaster record, I used 200% of my brain capacity to achieve this.

[tribal atlas]

The only reason is I am not real whale.. 🙂

[full shale]

Ye right you full 70s

[manic shadow]

So is the verdict that, even when using all the new mechanics as optimally as possible, there's still a dps decrease after remaster?

[marsh solstice]

So nexon

I think nexon make classes so weak so they can supplement the game with more resources/content or customers to keep it running

[runic path]

what is the aran ab skill wheel? havent seen one in this forum