Night Lord

[tidal halo]

I don’t think it works.. and the roadmap ahead from what’s going on in kmsm doesn’t seem good as well.
Think the SP cap at 70% needs a bit of further review

[rustic ether]

worked for the shadowers surely

[eternal panther]

shadow partner should be at 100%

[rustic ether]

up time or damage

[eternal panther]

damage instead of the 70% cap

[rustic ether]

NW has lots of clones and lower cap too not sure how are they still good

or are they still good rn?

[tidal halo]

I think purely cuz of the hit counts and immediate burst, they're still quite good in current bossing phases meta

[covert imp]

NW 434m MDC, I can do the tests on time, but webs at p3 keep getting me

[rustic ether]

thanks Memor, may i know what ied is that with?

[covert imp]

58% IED

[rustic ether]

thankss

[rustic ether]

#msm-feedback-qol message

[tidal halo]

wow that's really solid. Shall go and take a look

[tidal halo]

actually this BM video helped a lot with my P3. Cuz they can hold down their hurricane key and walk around.
On your first few tries you'll probably panic with the eye strikes but then you'll slowly start to realise that you can really walk around with ease like this BM

You only screwup if you get hit by anything twice AND mess up you moonwalk dodging the eye strikes

[tidal halo]

Grats! Was that a kill? Total DMG dealt looks about right

[harsh igloo]

Ye

[iron pond]

Anyone got their origin to lvl 10 yet for the extra ied? How is it? Does it cap?

[tall meadow]

BuffNL

[potent heath]

Yea it did cap

[iron pond]

Thanks! I think I need another month before maxing mine

[iron pond]

Do we have the qs HEXA skill level progression? I’m not seeing it in the pin

I want to know what we get for every 10th level

[rustic ether]

huh aren't they right there on the pinned

[iron pond]

No, missing one for qs

[rustic ether]

oh

theres no special effects for that

[iron pond]

Oh what? No extra FD or ied?

BuffNL

[rustic ether]

nawr

gets ied from V matrix

[iron pond]

That skill needs more ied

Or FD

[eternal panther]

BuffNL

[rustic ether]

buf

[restive lodge]

Well I can assure you guys that after those 24k PA from AU wep NL will be broken cheer up

[iron pond]

Congrats but send me the claw so I can test it out

[restive lodge]

Hahahaha

Congrats on what I didn't even get it

But I know that our clone dmg will look so much better with it

[iron pond]

Oh I assumed you landed one?

I kinda like it being 800 coins so it keeps the value of the stone higher for longer

[restive lodge]

Yeah especially if you landed it on the first attempt

https://tenor.com/view/make-it-rain-money-money-make-it-rain-flick-money-gif-1661833468939292218

[tidal halo]

Hmm, the AU weapon will boost everyone but SP is still capped at 70% though...

[restive lodge]

Everyone else non clone classes are already capping their skills

We are still missing some dmg on QS - NLM and maybe our Origin

Let's see when someone lands it and shows us the difference

[restive lodge]

I mean we cap those but we should look at our minimum and avg dmg

Still sucks

[tidal halo]

This I agree.. the variation is very big and we really suck.
Didn't know other classes are alr capping their skills wow. I was under the impression that recent rebalances made our skill dmg % kind of similar across different classes

[eternal panther]

#BuffNL

[potent heath]

Yups, running outta cd/ba/pd/pattk values to get those figures up. I feel even if we get another 20% boost of each it wont raise it up any much near optimum.

Guess our only hope is the AU weap

[rustic ether]

and other classes with the same weaps still gonna outperform us as per usual anyway

[potent heath]

Ahahhahah.... #BuffNL

[iron pond]

That’s why I think we get a boost with class rebalancing later

[eternal panther]

bring back 400% quad

[tidal halo]

Is it happening? hahaha

[rustic ether]

probs not

[iron pond]

We get a rebalancing each year to match the changes. So I have strong faith

[rustic ether]

we been getting relatively weaker with each "rebalance" sadly

[iron pond]

Last one was good though

[tidal halo]

Yeah they did give some buffs to shurrikane and omen. But yes we are probably due for another one!

[vague shoal]

Nl or nw

[graceful salmon]

#BuffNL

[rustic ether]

#Buff

[eternal panther]

BUFF

[iron pond]

BuffNL

[main sierra]

NerfNL

[iron pond]

Can you ban him?

[normal vector]

What’s next after lv10 origin?

[high igloo]

Level 11 origin

[tawny inlet]

I don’t understand.. should you level up hexa stats or hexa skill? I can’t cap yet so should I focus on the skill? Hexa quads?

[proud holly]

Anyone notice that max dmg lets say is 100mill or more. But when doing a test in frog I see min dmg or average way lower

But other players or characters are able to have their average or minimum dmg closer to the max dmg any ideas?

[rustic ether]

we have lots of clone lines thats only hitting 70% of our FD or something

[proud holly]

Yah I know but hitting from a max dmg of 105m hitting minimum 29 and 30 is absolute awful

[rustic ether]

awful class

[proud holly]

Seeing 32m in minimum dmg is awful

[rustic ether]

take into account that those minimims are likely be outside of ds4 duration as well,

if ure referring to ur origin as well theyve got lower ied than other skills until you levelled it up to 10

[proud holly]

Understand but for example a shadower with lower gear and lower stat is able to maintain a minimum and average damg close to 85m out of 100mill max dmg

On that character I dont see and awful minimin dmg like this

[rustic ether]

yeah, a shadower was ourdamaging me with 60+m below and lesser ied and weaker stats so i dont blame u for that 😂

[proud holly]

Wao, in my opinion if you have about 120m max dmg or more and you do a test in frog or a boss and your max dmg is capping at about 106 or 109 loke the previous picture, the min dmg or average should bot be that low in the 30s thats awful

[cosmic kestrel]

Oh wow ! I see the new skills update is out
Was away for a bit

Any nl's wanna share their new skill wheel/presets?
Now with the 1quick long all buff lol

Likes whats ur current play style?
Need to re-tinker eith mine abit
(Lvl 243nl)

[harsh igloo]

Any guide for my lung tower?
I’m stuck at lvl 49

[potent heath]

Urgh...me too

[harsh igloo]

Ur stronger than me

What’s ur ied and cap

[potent heath]

57% and 529m

[rustic ether]

time to wash more ieds

[harsh igloo]

Yeah like me
580m 59%

[harsh igloo]

Expensive af
And at 60% each 1% give me only 0.4%

[potent heath]

I feel its more like a skill rotation rather than purely ied. I got lvl50 to ard 30% and I ran outta time

[potent heath]

Yeah....I feel I've more chance in the casino than to roll double mythic flames

[harsh igloo]

For sure

[iron pond]

I can confirm the odds are better at the casino

[fickle bane]

anoyone know if this still a good guide? need to spend some sol erda since its capping out. Wonder if its just better to put in origin or quad since quads DPS is the only one not capping for me

[harsh igloo]

Good but original lvl 10 first

Then you follow the guide

[warped raptor]

How are you guys organizing your bossing skill wheel now?

[lavish hemlock]

Thats the strategy? I lvled origin to 10, then working on getting each boostskill/quad to lvl 10

[harsh igloo]

No no

Original lvl 10
Then Follow the guide

Quad is the main focus

[harsh igloo]

[eternal panther]

show your real cap

[harsh igloo]

[eternal panther]

[rustic ether]

2 strong

[tidal halo]

wow is this the power of HEXA stat main line level 10?

[rustic ether]

now left with weapon

[harsh igloo]

Indeed

[normal vector]

R u guys using origin first before ur burst combo?

Once boss spawns , origin then lay down ur burst?

[iron pond]

I origin first

And ask questions later

[eternal panther]

orgin first

[potent heath]

Is this the boss after black mage?

[harsh igloo]

[harsh igloo]

Sho me yours

[harsh igloo]

Original just make sure ds4 is up

[rustic ether]

2good

[potent heath]

This is mine. After this im allocating more pts to QS.

[harsh igloo]

Wow so strong

How so many points?

[potent heath]

YOU CANT SAY THAT!!! You have lvl10!!!!

Anyways I farm 24H daily duo or solo (with drop rate potion)

[harsh igloo]

Ok

[iron pond]

Wow I’m lucky to have origin lvl 10 by the end of this week

Have you guys been buying frags? Farming nonstop with high drop rate?

I’ve been taking it slow and steady

[tidal halo]

I also just got my origin 10 in the last week. Pretty slow drops rippppp

[iron pond]

A lot of players will be getting their origin to lvl 10 within the next few weeks

[normal vector]

What’s after origin lvl10?

Lvl5 hexa quad?

[potent heath]

Id say hexa quad as much as possible till the resources required far exceed the requirement to lvlup barrage/throw blasting...at least thats what id do

[eternal panther]

that's smart ^

[harsh igloo]

Do

Lvl 10 origin

20 hexa

10 barrage and blast

[rustic ether]

and then do lv10 main stat on mdc

like mr trojin here

[harsh igloo]

Hhhh lol

Killed me

[rustic ether]

haha still lucky enough to pull that off! congrats

[harsh igloo]

Ty ty

Happy it’s a NL and not a night walker

[rustic ether]

haha why

[harsh igloo]

Pride of NL

[boreal frost]

Do we got a buff on barrage?

It’s 60sec

It not used to be 30sec plus hexa lvls?

[iron pond]

Barrage gets an additional 15 sec total once maxed

[boreal frost]

Yea but used to be 60secs?

With no hexa?

[iron pond]

Without hexa it’s 60 sec

After maxing you’ll gain an additional 15 secs

[normal vector]

It’s not additional 18 at max?

Is the resources quantity to level up hexa same as origin?

Or will it require less frags?

[harsh igloo]

Lvl 18

Is less than 10 origin

Just saw in my hexa

Original is double I think

Even more

[jade crag]

Are you guys also getting into Mana problem when running vhilla without altars?

Tried to run some multi normal vhilla for the first time with friends without altars and my mana is gone really fast

And it’s only for me other classes are doing just fine

[late wedge]

Katari just posted about this @jade crag

Dont put PE on mp slot

Regular v8/9 pots work

[graceful salmon]

Good info, will pin!

maybe start a faq pin that yall can ping us to build together. Simple questions only, other in-depth stuff will be pinned in their own “guide” post

FAQ

Anyone having mana issues in Normal Verus Hilla?

• Use V8/9 mana pots instead of PE’s

[jade crag]

I don’t get it tho, you can’t use potions in vhilla so why does it matter

But I will try and see if it helps, thank you!

Oh I just read the shadowers thread, makes sense

[prime berry]

Some one can give me the trios ?

[fickle bane]

Anyone know for NLs (since we're squishy), whats a good MDC/HP goal to solo nvhilla and hwill?

[boreal frost]

I have 320K HP and 168M mdc and can clear nvhilla, hwill idk

[harsh igloo]

Interesting question
Around 170m but need solid stats/skills

[rustic ether]

thats quite high

[fickle bane]

Nvhilla is easier than hwill? 😮

[fickle bane]

For both? Damn that's a really high

[rustic ether]

should be way lower than that

[harsh igloo]

I’m pretty sure it’s easier

[rustic ether]

hwill tho, not cwill

[harsh igloo]

Yeah hwill definitely not cwill

[hexed pine]

Anyone know what’s my priority here, I’m about to max out on nodes and want to extract some to craft nodes to level

[iron pond]

Max all the NL main skills. Also the decent skills, max them one at a time, don’t do even levels on each

[boreal frost]

Last resource, Will skill

Then others

[midnight cave]

Hi do you guys do barrage or throw blasting first? Seems like tb will give me more output?

[graceful salmon]

The order for TB doesn’t matter much because all of the hit counts get used up before the duration timer ends in most cases. Use it first if anything

[midnight cave]

Tks

[harsh igloo]

6th job?

[midnight cave]

Yep I meant adding hexa skills

Should you add tb or barrage first

[rustic ether]

none

[midnight cave]

If you past the stage of origin lvl 10, quad star lvl 10m

[rustic ether]

get tb if u aint capping and barrage if u are lol, same as everything else

or whichever u think thatll give u more gains

gotta take into consideration of how funded and geared u are

and how much do you intend to fund to cover those deficits (stats gear etc)

[midnight cave]

Tks!! Though, NL always have issues capping 😭

[eternal panther]

#BuffNL

[midnight cave]

#BuffNL

My Abso50 weapon lose to abso 40 other classes 😓

[harsh igloo]

I consider upgrading quad to 30 but will be happy to hear opinions

[iron pond]

https://tenor.com/view/do-it-get-to-work-gif-21630516

[eternal panther]

do it

[proud holly]

Wao so many sol erdas!

[harsh igloo]

[low acorn]

Why is there a flashing light emote at the top of this thread? It seems very epilepsy unfriendly although it might be too small to cause an attack. IDK, don't have epilepsy just think it's a bit annoying....

[rustic ether]

@glossy delta

[graceful salmon]

Users can mass react to a lesser reaction on the list to bump it off the top 2 display

[potent heath]

Im kinda stuck at this juncture too!!

To upgrade QS lvl20 is the same material usage as Origin lvl10

Origin adds 7% skill dmg x3 times usage over a 10min bossing

QS adds stable 3% across 10mins in bossing but has def ignore

Eventually both is gonna max but...to max QS first despite the cost per increment or to go slow and steady but surely by adding QS and Origin in tandem

Thoughts anyone?

[harsh igloo]

After careful consideration and checking for big bosses
Origin is better

Also qs doesn’t have IED boost

Also original is quick without mistakes

[potent heath]

Actually...they do?

[harsh igloo]

Oh yeah ofc

We know that

All the skills have this

Nothing special

Original is 5% more

Look how lethal is origin

[potent heath]

I guess the skill dmg makes more difference and its a nuke based dmg.

But so what do u think? Keep adding origin till max only add up remaining qs?

[harsh igloo]

7% vs 3%

[harsh igloo]

It’s twice more expensive but twice stronger

[potent heath]

Wow....actually even at 2 usage it contributes to 22% of total dmg

[harsh igloo]

And here specifically it’s a weak boss

Only vhilla normal

[potent heath]

And this is you doing it while having lvl10 origin?

[harsh igloo]

But in example lucid/will

Where there is down time

It’s even bigger the difference

[harsh igloo]

Yes

Lucid and will

[potent heath]

Ok I think....maybe id add more into origin till the min + avg hits a cap...which i dont know at which lvl but eventually it all might hit cap looking at how many more 7% would push the avg dmg to hit max cap

[normal vector]

So what’s the route after lvl 10 origin

[potent heath]

Im in quite a conundrum here too so I dont have a very specific answer to it...but if I must!!!

Yeaaa....origin till min - avg dmg per boss has reach a stalemate.

Or when adding skills like qs is 2-3x lower material consumption than 1x origin? And u are millimeters away from boss completion....the i guess it doesnt hurt to add abit of QS.

My take is...yeaaa...still add origin regardless till it reaches stalemate cause our qs wont magically turn from 9k lines to origin 12k lines (figure varies between players play style) but generally origin does gives more likes and 7% each lines is alot

[iron pond]

Going to take an eternity

[potent heath]

Yupsssssssssss

[tawny inlet]

Do you guys normally take accuracy or crit rate for dreamy belt option?

[potent heath]

@harsh igloo o assume this is after you added more pts to origin?

[harsh igloo]

Nope

It’s darknell

I upgraded from 10 to 11 that’s it
This time was full buff with boss rush

[potent heath]

Icic

[late wedge]

Yeah most choose ACC because of necro, but I choose for droprate.. my opinion is everything else is useless

[midnight cave]

Hi experts,how do you maximize min dmg or reduce the spread for NL? This is for hdam and the max min is a huge diff

[potent heath]

For bosses it is normal due to DS4 proc. Furthermore damien has those orbs when you attack while inside the orb it reduces your dmg. Even 1 hit was ultra low it will be registered as say 10m for instance. What you need to see is the avg dmg too.

But in general if you intend to go min max route. It will require alot of spending. Potentials, flames, jewels, gears etc etc etc. Basically having everything that is BiS (you can refer to @harsh igloo battle analysis)

Even that you wont see equal dmg like max500m min500m avg 500m.

[midnight cave]

Tks man. And when we say cap, do you aim for max cap or avg cap?

[rustic ether]

max duh

[midnight cave]

Aite

[potent heath]

Did a lil test here just now to satisfy my curiosity about frailty curse

Without frailty curse

With frailty curse

With frailty curse

[rustic ether]

oo r u not capping yet

[potent heath]

Without frailty curse

[potent heath]

I didnt buff ahahhaha...only realised half way through and I got lazy to re-do everything.

[rustic ether]

haha true true

good skill

[restive lodge]

Tina is back already ?

[normal vector]

So frat curse reduces damage u take and also increase ur dps?

From ur pics

[potent heath]

It increases the dps...however it doesnt reduce the dmg taken.

I havent test it out with bosses that has minion such as lotus or darknell

[normal vector]

Ooh

Thought I saw 21 and 24 damage taken

[fringe glacier]

Anyone find a good difference once they start leveling hexa quad star?

[normal vector]

Prolly the minimum damage will go up and average damage

[fringe glacier]

Im 212m mdc and dont cap yet ffs. So I think that'd help me.

[tidal halo]

This is with which frailty curse hyper? The - dmg red one?

[potent heath]

Apparently it doesnt -dmg for bosses attack from both the picture it does same dmg to me

[rustic ether]

i wish

or do i

[harsh igloo]

So rich

We are vs each other in ghb

[harsh igloo]

Origin is king
@potent heath

[potent heath]

Yups I'm on that path too now.

[tidal halo]

waa bro.. any idea what are the stats of the Hayato in your team? How come the gap is so big to Devil the shadower who's already so stronk?

[harsh igloo]

He was aggro

And he has 63% ied 715m cap

Devil got 640m cap

I got 705m cap but I’m missing weapon so I’m 7th
But all the team 7 set except me

[tidal halo]

#buffNL

[harsh igloo]

Wait till I hit weapon

NL are strong

[tidal halo]

hope you pass your weapon soon! Will be a clearer comparison since you've got maxed MDC Hexa..

[iron pond]

Need that ss when you do

[harsh igloo]

Bless me

[iron pond]

https://tenor.com/view/pope-francis-blessing-gif-1481704290608981441

[narrow tapir]

Should thieves be worried about the max and min dmg gap?

[harsh igloo]

No

It’s black mage and I’m without weapon

[eternal panther]

#BuffNL

[normal vector]

Used 7x? This is which boss

[harsh igloo]

What 7x?

[normal vector]

U used origin 7x

[harsh igloo]

Oh

[harsh igloo]

Yeah why?

Black mage

[normal vector]

Oh

It’s 30 min long?

[harsh igloo]

Yeah 830T hp

[iron pond]

Just confirming but we going back to focusing on origin versus qs?

[harsh igloo]

Yeah

Origin does way more lines
Also gain 7% per upgrade vs 3%

[iron pond]

Do you guys let your sol erda max out at 20/20 when you don’t need them?

Mine keeps maxing out before I farm enough frags

[harsh igloo]

Not possible

U waste on hexa stats that’s why

[iron pond]

I only got one page tho

I do sell all my frags from bossing

That’s probably why

[potent heath]

Solo multi h.vhilla...

I just quit all my bossing group to allow more drinking time.

As for c.will and c lucid. Im not powerful enough to solo multi. Or is it even possible?

[rustic ether]

strong liew

[harsh igloo]

Crazy

Show ur stats

[potent heath]

As in character stats? Or battle analysis

[harsh igloo]

Character stats

[potent heath]

I think FD is proc by Adele link skills n some party effect. Its not usually this high but for the rest of it..should be bare bone stock

[iron pond]

Woah!

Is it me or do we just struggle harder in some solo bosses?

I see other classes that can solo clucid or cwill with less MDC. I’m here struggling, maybe it’s a skill issue

#BuffNL #BuffMe

[normal vector]

Can u show skill wheel set up for boss?

[potent heath]

Its abit messy and I intend to change it some time soon but...just habits. Not very optimised but it worked thus far

[potent heath]

With lesser iframe...output duration seems hampered by running/dodging ard. The glass cannon term has definitely shifted from those days vs now compared to other classes. Short quick burst or long burst with iframes.

For some reason I just felt like we are at max glass pistols......thats my take at least. Havent played much classes but somehow had some grasp of what others are slightly better in today's game style

[potent heath]

U have a vdo? Maybe can see whats going on or where error happens

[iron pond]

No video needed, it’s definitely skill issue

I wonder if it’s better for NL to be able to attack on the move like archers

[potent heath]

Long long time ago nl or thieves had superior mobility such as speed or even evasion n etc. Somehow the game mechanics has been blurred. Like everyone feel the same. Every class has speed, mobility and such.

Its not a signature to thieves anymore I guess? Even warriors which is tankier has better movements than thieves.

To answer your question....I guess its not as simple as being another class such as Archer but rather being a traditional class that somehow is being locked while every new class that emerges broke that traditional format while we are still stuck in 2000s with some changes

[iron pond]

Bishop has their HS, Warrior has their HB, and thief has their Haste

[potent heath]

Hehehe that was a game changer back then in the 2000s?

Nowadays when its all boss centric battles. Shared buffs n all. We became the most selfish and somewhat class that doesnt contribute much if any at all in terms of buff and even dps

[iron pond]

It was original game plan until they started introducing equipment that lets you use those skills. It was gacha base and cost lots of money

[harsh igloo]

Fd is extremely low
Why?

[potent heath]

Erm.....luck depends on how much we spend? Hehehehe

[potent heath]

Sounds pretty much the same now

[potent heath]

This boss can skip straight to hard mode. No need to pass normal mode

[tidal halo]

Easy boss mechanics?

[potent heath]

Quite easy. Try practice mode. Its quite intuitive.

[iron pond]

https://youtu.be/BajmWqP3wkA?si=UTQmkypLdx4x0blH

[tacit estuary]

what’s your MDC?

i soloed Clucid at 2.25, and i saw one solo Cwill at 3.2

[glossy delta]

3.2 as a night lord?

[rustic ether]

thats after they started getting higher levels on origin lool

[tacit estuary]

yes

[tacit estuary]

lv10 origin

https://youtu.be/yU4y2ztL6nE?si=yOIJUDqcXz_SOt5x

[red estuary]

Anyone tried new boss and some of yr dmg line shown as "RESIST"?

[late wedge]

U can only do damage if you're marked I thought

[red estuary]

Am not sure. Most of the youtube players are having clean dmg throughout all phases, whether you're marked or not

[iron pond]

333m

[tacit estuary]

should be doing CWill already

[rustic ether]

too good

need to see peak dark mage rankinh

[harsh igloo]

[tired schooner]

Anyone below 250 can share ur skill wheel and pets buff slot. My setup is not that effective

[normal vector]

Rich

[runic oriole]

Is this good?

[graceful salmon]

Better than mine

[eternal panther]

Yea

[rustic ether]

ye

[potent heath]

Its part of the game mechanics.

[potent heath]

Try watching this

[harsh igloo]

Need lvl 10 not 9

[rustic ether]

need first line lv10 not 2nd or 3rd

[tawny inlet]

I have 2nd line level 10.. and first line level 3

And I doomed

[harsh igloo]

Too hard

[harsh igloo]

Lvl 8+ first line
Or lvl 10 2nd/3rd line

[harsh igloo]

https://tenor.com/view/shhh-shush-quiet-gif-8316632

[tawny inlet]

XD

With how much MDC and attack u guys need to do Will solo hard mode?

Cant seem to pass phase 3

[harsh igloo]

@restive lodge

[restive lodge]

Did it already like 5 days ago

[harsh igloo]

I’m so bad

I barely beat u

U gotta teach me

When u upload a video?

[restive lodge]

You are so strong you don't need a teacher

[harsh igloo]

I’m strong but your mechanics perfect
I wanna learn

[harsh igloo]

Can u send analysis plz

[prisma crow]

any top NL can share skill wheel for farming? is it normal to kill like 3.5k monster per hour at map 20?

[tacit estuary]

Average kill should be 10.5k

[graceful salmon]

1. Check the pins, adjust as needed for any lv200+ required skills that you may or may not have
2. Kph depends on the amount of hits it takes you to kill with varying skills, map platform layout, party size, and party comp. There’s no meaningful number to give to compare to except for same map+similar party situation+roughly same amount of hits to kill mobs.
   With that being said 3.5k kph is on the lower side in general

[prisma crow]

id see any pin about farming sol?

[rustic ether]

lol

[graceful salmon]

No. But farm in sp20 in a 1-2 player party for ideal rates, as a general tip

[prisma crow]

i juz want skill rotation for farming sol assuming i can one hit kill monster using any skill

[potent heath]

Better than sp30 even if can 1 hit ko?

[eternal panther]

yea

[potent heath]

Ok trying it today

[fringe glacier]

For an NL that dont cap, just got Origin10.. should I get all mastery/boosts to 10, then start on origin again?

[harsh igloo]

U should get origin to 30

50% ied at lvl 30

U can do Lv 10 barrage and some quad if u wish

[potent heath]

Double this

[normal vector]

The ied stack? From lvl10 and lvl30?

[harsh igloo]

Yes

Confirmed

[marsh tree]

603m cap i wish i had 640m cap

[harsh igloo]

🐳

[potent heath]

533m cap. I wish I had 603m cap

[graceful salmon]

I wish I had even half of that

[eternal panther]

some people have 700m+ cap

[rustic ether]

@harsh igloo

[harsh igloo]

?

[tacit estuary]

man i hate this boss

[harsh igloo]

Ez still had 9s left

[tacit estuary]

blessed by the world guild buff for additional damage, don’t think i can make it without it

god bless for next week

[harsh igloo]

What it even gives?
U had buffs on you?

[tacit estuary]

yeah, 10 or 15% Pdmg & Mdmg

[normal vector]

What option did u guys pick for arcane umbra cape? EVD? Crit? Exp?

[tacit estuary]

Mesos

[fringe glacier]

Whats the best boost hexa to do first? Throwing Blast?

[potent heath]

I took crit

[normal vector]

Is your SOL erda maxed? For when your leveling up origin from 10 to 20?

[potent heath]

Don't quite understand

[normal vector]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1278005851143278604/1505429923324629168/image0.jpg?ex=6a0a985f&is=6a0946df&hm=08af926f168597e5c18f4c388fc131e28b34c26e3d8d35d8b74448c6be0add05&

Sol erda full when tryna save up for origin

[harsh igloo]

Buy fragments
U probably wasted on stats so stacked some
My energy is slower than fragments

[rustic ether]

too op

[normal vector]

Ya I didn’t buy frags

[eternal panther]

need mesos

[potent heath]

Ahhh it happens. Need to buy fragments

[tacit estuary]

it’s never enough

[harsh igloo]

Step by step

[eternal panther]

strongest NL

[graceful salmon]

Trojin was always OP, even round the time of his wedding he was still OP even if he says he wasn’t

[harsh igloo]

4 years ago wasn’t op

[iron pond]

Dang look at that CP! OP OP OP

[marsh tree]

WOW #1 MSM

[normal vector]

https://youtu.be/k8gqQa8LAmY?si=f0aIt9IYd4PrtKxI

Skip to NL showcase

Looks like they have the 2nd Hexa skill

Along with new assassin mark and four seasons

[tacit estuary]

every class has it, just the matter of time

[boreal frost]

Guys after origin lvl 10 what should we prior? Quad?

[potent heath]

Still origin...

[boreal frost]

Ok

Ty

[sturdy grotto]

guys i have a question. What skill should i go next after Origin(10) & Hexa Quad(10) ?

[rustic ether]

30 origin

[sturdy grotto]

OMG

it veryveryveryveryveryveryveryvery long journy

Ty

[eternal panther]

yea

[harsh igloo]

Boom we made it!

[rustic ether]

damn

since when is emblem >lv5 a thing

[glossy delta]

since yesterday

[late wedge]

Extract chaos emblem items for traces

[restive lodge]

It's till 15 tho

[ebon arrow]

So bare minimum gain

[harsh igloo]

So rich how?

[tidal halo]

True beast! Grats!

[tacit estuary]

wonder what will a whale sell

sold

[normal vector]

Rich

[potent heath]

I know a lvl7-8 is 100% pass but roughly what are the progression like? 100 > 80 > 60?

[harsh igloo]

8_9

100% too

9-10 50% per shard can do 100%

I forgot after

[iron pond]

oh wow, those rates aint bad

[normal vector]

1 chaos trace for7-8?

is ther a table somewhere

to see how many trace needed for max succes

[polar sinew]

here

[potent heath]

Ohhh that's not too baaaaad

[rustic ether]

what does the max mean

[restive lodge]

You can put more traces for more %

[rustic ether]

oh wow

[potent heath]

@fresh widget

[tacit estuary]

wait what? frailty curse add damage to skills?

[eternal panther]

Yea

[rustic ether]

yes

op

[potent heath]

@eternal panther @rustic ether is the buff only for individual or extends to party?

[eternal panther]

Should be both I believe

[tacit estuary]

so i’ve been ignoring this skill all the time

[rustic ether]

its like 10% pdi if the bosses are under its effect or something i thinn

[tacit estuary]

i improved from solo HAz 9:57 to 9:15

syeeesh

[rustic ether]

u r so goated

[tacit estuary]

naahh, i’m a fish compare to whales here

[glossy delta]

Has hypers too

[tacit estuary]

which hypers? as i read the description it didn’t really help on boosting tho

[glossy delta]

Iirc there's a hyper that gives 10% more dmg 20% more cdmg

[tacit estuary]

guess i’ll have to reset?

[tidal halo]

wow lol Ive been ignoring it as well.
Which hyper skills do we add for frailty curse then? 🥲

[glossy delta]

From what people tell me nl don't even use frailty curse