Night Lord

[jagged flicker]

tue also thats y im struggling which to burn

[storm verge]

Burn what you want to play

[rustic ether]

ysa

[normal vector]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1278005851143278604/1433306155681321112/IMG_5678.png?ex=690435e1&is=6902e461&hm=a28a4bd9a7f1d2c611392486edb823bc8b67349d4af338138984f2da3fff1fe8&

[eternal panther]

kmsm buff nl again?

[tidal halo]

Shurrikane's changes look insanely good. 30 > 72 hits wow.
Cant quite see the duration though... and whats with the max number of attacks? (dont really understand this)

Also, rejoice for removal of activation chance for NLmark ans all those venom nonsense. All the small dps ticks should be significant

[severe dust]

Any idea when this will drop in other places?

[rustic ether]

what

[keen stag]

probably 2026

[eternal panther]

yea

[iron pond]

I say late summer

[graceful salmon]

Yea

[vapid rivet]

Anyone's NL character jamming when bossing, such like tapping on preset button but nothing happened for a few seconds before continuing to attack?

[rustic ether]

whats on that preset?

[vapid rivet]

quad star, 4season, sudden raid and hilla soul

[vapid rivet]

are you experiencing the same thing?

[stiff current]

NL or NW?

[rustic ether]

i have quad 4s sr 4s as a preset and my guy does stand still for a bit casting those skills, not sure if thats the case for u

[graceful salmon]

I had to press it again on pc client, but noticed it’s simply not triggering the button (to visually change in size when pressed) when it does hang up like that. Thought it was just me tho kek. Kinda annoying but not a big deal. Haven’t bossed on mobile much after patch so can’t say I personally feel it on mobile/iOS yet

[vapid rivet]

it’s not the jam during 4s, sr, then 4s again. during this phase the character actually moves and shadow surge can be used

[rustic ether]

hmm let me experiment later

[icy rune]

#1059991474357424148 message

Is this still valid after 2 years?

[proud holly]

Is up to you if your are pre200 is basically whatever at this point

Since you get to 200 fast right now

[rustic ether]

yeah as long as ur quad star is maxed

[delicate stream]

Is Night lord stronger than DB now? I see the top of my world always being Night Lords.

[rustic ether]

nope, NL players just like their classes more

[delicate stream]

Thanks for your reply. Good to know that.

[eternal panther]

NL needs buff

[rustic ether]

#BuffNL

[delicate stream]

NL are quite strong now

I love my NL

[iron pond]

#BuffNL

Any NL here solo VHilla with 130m MDC?

Or close to that range?

[hexed pine]

Hello, which stat do I pick for necro armor? Not sure if it’s crit att or evade

[earnest wyvern]

Boss att

[keen stag]

negligible difference imo

[icy rune]

Any suggestions on what nodes to max out first as priority to help with bossing and AB?

Also with the last hyper stat passive, what did people put it into?

[graceful salmon]

[keen stag]

https://tenor.com/view/sheep-agreed-affirmative-yes-thumbs-up-gif-4191401080248251995

[normal vector]

@restive lodge what mdc needed to solo chaos lucid

[rustic ether]

i think 4 piece au, from what I've seen from various YouTube videos

[potent heath]

Anyone passed with 3pcs? 😁?

[rustic ether]

ive got a friend that tried with 3pieces, quite far from clearing as i was told

[potent heath]

Same...was wondering if its even possible. Best I've did was like 50%-ish and ran outta time in P2

[rustic ether]

gotta pass and exalt ur 4th piece then

👀

[potent heath]

Urgh!! The grind

[rustic ether]

what mdc are you at with 3pcs

[potent heath]

At 255m

[rustic ether]

almost there! good luck

[cedar wing]

Hey what are the latest tri nodes for NL?

[rustic ether]

still the same

[wet drum]

No crit damage / crit %?

I guess the assumption is that crit % should come from other places?

[rustic ether]

crit% coming from necro/abso/au weapons

[wet drum]

🤔 I need to read the guide about necro weps

But I think that’s still very far off for me

[rustic ether]

whats ur current state of progress like

[wet drum]

I started like five days ago lol

My main (NL) is lv204

I just hit 145 sf

Weapon is legendary 17sf, gear is unique event gear at 16, got lucky with accessory sf rolls

I think my gameplan is to get my 5 alts from 130 to 150, get 120sf, and auto battle for a few weeks to save mesos while waiting in next event

Self scrolling at 17+ sf seems like a massively expensive rng fest

[rustic ether]

i see, you will want to get to sf170 on one character as well, that gives u access to CDD and pharoahs dungeon

they both give u ancient stones that you will need in order to attempt for necro weaps

gl chief

[wet drum]

Yeah am currently funneling resources to the NL

Is my assumption correct that it is probably safer (meal wise)to buy already-SF’d gear then it is to try making it myself, past ~15-16 sf i don’t have event scrolls?

My first goal is 160 for cdd and I think that’s reachable with a bit of luck next event

[graceful salmon]

I’m sorry to hear you’re a NL main, but welcome!

[wet drum]

I was an NL main when I played on computer 15 years ago

It didn’t occur to me that the game may have slightly moved on since then

But that’s where my milo boost went so now I’m committed

[graceful salmon]

Yea I’ve been a NL ever since first playing PCMS long ago. Even if nerfed I’d still be playing it ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[wet drum]

I tried Mercedes and decided I was too old to learn new classes

But 12 year old my would have loved that shii

[graceful salmon]

I feel you on that. Even for my alts, there’s times I genuinely don’t even wanna read the skills or learn how the combos work. I just come in here and copy the recommended ab page and keep it moving

[harsh igloo]

Help plz

[eternal panther]

need 6th job

[rustic ether]

need buff

[storm verge]

Why is one line of shuriken not hitting the boss?

The skill that splits the shuriken into 3 lines

Isnt that losing dmg or does that not matter at all?

[rustic ether]

not close enough, NL is a melee class

[storm verge]

Wait…

So yall just losing dmg if you don’t stick to the boss?

[rustic ether]

yeah

[storm verge]

WTH

[rustic ether]

need to stay real close to the boss to cast shurikane too

[storm verge]

BRO BUFF NL

[rustic ether]

the spinny shuriken thingy

[storm verge]

Bruh

[eternal panther]

buff NL

[rustic ether]

#BuffNL

[graceful salmon]

Odd yea?

They just did a buff to our “melee” problem by tightening the angle of spread. It used to be so bad that we had to stand ON the boss

[rustic ether]

all the other "melee" classes has more effective range than us too

[rustic ether]

but we still gotta get close for shurikane

like there is improvement but

[graceful salmon]

That’s actually so funny because it’s so true. Some warrior classes has skills that have LONG af hitboxes

[storm verge]

Yeah

Also i noticed in the pinned is all sheepy

U used to main Nl?

[rustic ether]

idk about u

[storm verge]

I thought you are a bam enthusiast

[rustic ether]

oh sheepeys NL

restoreazures the bam

[storm verge]

Eh

Typo hehe

[storm verge]

OHHHHHHHH

damn

I confused them both

Lowkey thought they are the same person 😂

[rustic ether]

frfr

BABAH

[storm verge]

Restore went missing

Sheepy is now both

😂

[rustic ether]

is how @graceful salmon sounds like when he laughs

[graceful salmon]

I like azure, I’m happy to be him and me

[graceful salmon]

https://tenor.com/view/lol-minions-movie-laugh-gif-14044341

[rustic ether]

spread the word

[static ether]

for vhilla i guess doesnt hurt to stand pointblank to boss, easier to dodge attacks also

[harsh igloo]

Plz someone guide me I’m lost

[potent heath]

I wouldn't say guide as much since I havent pass too but at 8:10 could've went back to blow the left trumpet. Took u abit of time

[limpid salmon]

hello im newbie. can someone share your farming skill wheel? currently im farming at star force 120

[graceful salmon]

Welcome! Check the pins for SS of a starting point, then you can adjust however you feel suits you better

[rustic ether]

include rope lift too when uve unlocked v matrix at lv200

[limpid salmon]

Ss?

[graceful salmon]

Screenshot

Sorry

[graceful salmon]

Ab auto uses it whether it’s on the wheel or not

#BuffNL

[rustic ether]

they gotta equip it on the vmatrix slot tho

or not

[graceful salmon]

Oh sorry I misunderstood lol

[rustic ether]

nah i wasnt being clear

[eternal panther]

buff nl

[rustic ether]

buff nl

[pine holly]

Ab no need equip its passive

[harsh igloo]

Buff NL

[iron pond]

#BuffNL

[keen stag]

BuffNL

[graceful salmon]

BuffNL

[rustic ether]

#BuffNL

[wraith galleon]

Is anyone using Venom Burst?

[proud holly]

I use everything after the update where they opened all the slots for vmatrix

[eternal panther]

Same

[wraith galleon]

Gotcha! When was that and what did they do? It was in the middle of my break I guess and I just came back to a lot of slots

[potent heath]

NL 6th job feels alot like a DoT than a burst? 😰

[harsh igloo]

NL 6th job is B tier
Considered the worst job
It’s the biggest downgrade and NL will be the weakest again

Not surprising

[boreal frost]

I don’t think so we have a good amount of lines with 6job

[iron pond]

#BuffNL

[boreal frost]

Where did you get this?

[normal vector]

Guild discord

[harsh igloo]

Fake news

[boreal frost]

How do they know if the patch hasn't been released?

[iron pond]

Most likely info from kmsm

[graceful salmon]

Players like to take info from kmsm and think it’ll apply in gmsm

Very common, inevitably makes themselves upset by doing that

[iron pond]

It’s the only info we have though

But we take it with a grain of salt

[pine holly]

That ss. The lines is taken from the tw livestream

[iron pond]

Taken from echo discord

[rustic ether]

30seconds yikes

[iron pond]

For the first time ever I actually want us to have a long cast animation

For the iframe

[rustic ether]

does that mean we have like 3k lines when ds4 is active

[iron pond]

Idk but all I know is that the team will kill the boss by the time I’m half way through bursting

[rustic ether]

need carry #BuffNL

[iron pond]

We’re still trash, #BuffNL

[eternal panther]

Buff NL this is unacceptable

[harsh igloo]

It’s good or bad?
Seems number 4

[rustic ether]

line wise yeah, but idk about burst window since its going for so long, only half of those are gonna be delivered during ds4

sdw, fpm etc does similar lines in way shorter time

not sure tho

[eternal panther]

Still need buff

[rustic ether]

#BNL

[iron pond]

What Tina said, it’s good because of the high line count but 30 sec is a bit long for a boss fight. I think those who has 8 sec burst window will have better advantage

20-30sec would be better for farming

[rustic ether]

#BuffNL

[iron pond]

Did you read the patch? Thoughts?

[rustic ether]

Salt

[rustic ether]

have you

[iron pond]

Not yet, drove to work

Gonna read it after I check my emails

Based on my math I think I’ll gain 43m MDC

25 from armor and 18 from base increase

[rustic ether]

sdw and db got more lines and we got nun

😡

[iron pond]

Ugh db don’t need more lines

[rustic ether]

thinj ill get

67m

like actual

[boreal frost]

What means this?

We will hit double with barrage activate ?

Like double barrage

[rustic ether]

no idea, cant read rn

shall be reading when im at work

[tidal halo]

Nothing to worry about. Just tap Quad star as always. The 4th hit will always be a different animation with a stronger effect

[boreal frost]

But this will be the new quad star?

[iron pond]

Any idea what’s the new duration of barrage? I saw it’s getting an increase

[rustic ether]

where from

[iron pond]

Patch notes let me get it

The FD will be great for those who are struggling with hitting cap….wish I had that problem

[boreal frost]

Did you read the weapond phy increase and hp increase on equipment?

It’s insane

[iron pond]

Not the weapon but I saw some previews on armor

[iron pond]

They really want us to start hitting cap

[rustic ether]

a60 weapon actually matters now

[rustic ether]

think that's the buff from hexa skills

[iron pond]

I’m assuming it’s a change in boosted nodes but I think you’re right if it’s linked with HEXA

[rustic ether]

priority of pcms i think

from reddit

[iron pond]

I don’t understand this yet

But I will

[iron pond]

Wow, the title from Darknell gives 5% ied

[rustic ether]

which would translate to like 2-3% for me or something

still good

[eternal panther]

Why they didn’t buff NL

[rustic ether]

we didnt whine hard enough

[eternal panther]

Guess our v6 is op

[rustic ether]

half of those lines wont even get the ied from ds4 bc it goes on for 30s

[eternal panther]

Only good for training then

[tidal halo]

In the bursting meta it is not good.. hence a lot of ppl from pc client also voiced their concerns when HEXA was first released.
But it is what it is, they decided to chop us up into burst + dpm. No consistency 🤷
I’m still waiting for job transfer ticket 🌚

[rustic ether]

what u changing t9

[tidal halo]

Thinking shadower. They perform very consistently

[rustic ether]

i dont like that playstyle

too old

[eternal panther]

dual blade stronger

[iron pond]

thoughts?

[normal vector]

Not much, u can’t cast quad star immediately after casting origin skill

U have to wait until it burst then be able to spam quad or any other skill

[iron pond]

thats kinda dumb

wonder if this also applies to other classes

[eternal panther]

so wait 30 seconds wth

[tidal halo]

Nono just gotta wait till the Origin skill animation completes. It's an iframe as well I think

[tidal halo]

But wow.. to see Throwblast getting gapped is insane

[normal vector]

This^

Also the 6000 lines is maximum output assuming u make use of all the activation of the giant stars….

And Vhilla u have to move alot, so u will miss some lines to activate giant stars (2.5 sec cooldown?)

[tidal halo]

Any of the pro NLs here got their Hexa quad? How does the stats look?

[lavish hemlock]

Do we follow pc for priority?

[rustic ether]

not sure

[lavish hemlock]

[normal vector]

What’s the 5th skill ? Level up origin skill to 20?

How much mdc needed for solo chaos lucid clear??

[tidal halo]

I think that's Sol Janus

[normal vector]

What that

[normal vector]

R u guys using origin skill during AB?

[eternal panther]

yea worth it

[iron pond]

It’s great for mobbing

[harsh igloo]

Any guide for skills

[lavish hemlock]

I went qs.

[dull stratus]

yea

Blaster nl nw needs more buff not cadena

Pirates idk i only play up to 170

[static ether]

does shadow partner clone lightning star?

[rustic ether]

#Buff

[dull stratus]

NL

[potent heath]

#Buff

[boreal frost]

We will follow this?

[tidal halo]

Probably a good reference. Nobody really knows for now cuz there are no real guides for this mobile version. But I think we don't have Sol Janus (? correct me if someone else discovers it), so those points there can be sent and focused onto HEXA quad (I think?)

[boreal frost]

So maybe the in earlier stages could be good on focus on quad

[potent heath]

Pre patch i manage it with 285m mdc with 52% ied. I think with 6th job its very much possible even with the same numbers

[normal vector]

Took the full duration?

[potent heath]

Best was 1 min spare but thats like perfect run with 3 mini games (could be lesser but thats the best I could do)

[normal vector]

Now ur doing it consistently wit 6 job?

[potent heath]

We decided to form a team for multi instead since most of us has huge mdc increase post patch along with 6th job. Gonna try out like this weekend.

Prolly not gonna be doin solo anymore.

[normal vector]

Anyone buying the sol erda pack? 50$

[rustic ether]

The pass?

[normal vector]

Yea

Is that worth

[rustic ether]

i know some teammate fhats bought them and maxed out the levels using crystals

[normal vector]

Ooh

Guessed they unlocked all the boost nodes

[rustic ether]

i think so

some has levelled all their hexa stats too

[normal vector]

This is telling us to get lvl5 hexa quadstar first?

[rustic ether]

think im gonna unlock everything once first and decide from there

[lavish hemlock]

Getting mixed reactions…i was ginna follow it.. unless its not recommended

[eternal panther]

Different game so probably wait

[normal vector]

Lvl 30 is only extra 3 seconds?

nevermind, seems its extra 18 seconds... 30*x0.3 + 9

[iron pond]

Is that cumlative?

[normal vector]

yea think so

lvl 1 is 3.3 seconds (0.3 + 3)

[iron pond]

ok I understand the math now

Do you think the boost node would be better than the hexa stats?

[rustic ether]

yeah

[rustic ether]

me thinks yes

[potent heath]

As of now I think id just do this in such order:

Hexa quad>throw blasting or omen > shurikane > barrage

[eternal panther]

So hexa quad first one to get at lvl 1 then

[harsh igloo]

Doesn’t matter what the guides say

I’m going all in on hexa stats

[normal vector]

Which stat u picking

[dull stratus]

Do nl add mdc increase to hyper if they got a cp buff despite not sure if hitting cap?

[rustic ether]

yea

[iron pond]

Same, where is your HEXA stat at?

[harsh igloo]

Mdc gotta be first

[harsh igloo]

The 2/3 skill get half the amount of boost

[rustic ether]

oo thats one lucky roll, first attempt?

[harsh igloo]

250m is better than everything else for sure

[harsh igloo]

Yeah

[iron pond]

I only got 3 in MDC, that’s it

How much frags did you use?

[harsh igloo]

Its first?

[iron pond]

Yeah

[harsh igloo]

Mmm upgraded 11 in total

So like 220?

[rustic ether]

first 5 was 10 iirc

[harsh igloo]

Ya

[iron pond]

Nice, I’m selling all mine and work on it slowly

[harsh igloo]

After all was 20

[harsh igloo]

Obviously if u got patience

U will save a lot of $

[iron pond]

I’ll buy it back in few months

[harsh igloo]

Smart move but I got no patience haha

I’ll max everything

[rustic ether]

trojin gotta max his to uphold the pride of us NL

[iron pond]

Trust me, me too lol

Spent a lot of money already

[eternal panther]

gonna be slow for f2p

[harsh igloo]

Failed 150 flames for 2 lines ied

Trash game

Pulled 400+ treasures

Nothing

[iron pond]

I’m almost convinced that buying 2L items is cheaper rolling for it

[harsh igloo]

100%

[iron pond]

I bought 3 packages and got crap….then I see people doing single pulls or 10-20 pulls and getting msw

[harsh igloo]

Money wise hexa stats is 100% best bang for the bucks

[iron pond]

Salt to the wound

[harsh igloo]

Ppl 1 tap 2L

[harsh igloo]

But hexa stats 250m boost I don’t think something can compare to it

It’s literally 4 whole arcane lvl 70

[iron pond]

I’m betting Nexon will give us more offensive stat down the road for all these MDC

[rustic ether]

i know someone ghat got 2x2l ied in one paxkage

[normal vector]

There’s a success rate for upgrading hexa stat?

[iron pond]

@harsh igloo 437m mdc, of that how much do you hit?

[normal vector]

Ooh nvm I see it

U can get mdc on main stat and secondary stat too

[harsh igloo]

I’ll check

[harsh igloo]

Secondary bad

[iron pond]

It’s random among the 3 chosen stat Suppp

[rustic ether]

gotta go secodnary if ur roll for primary is bad

[normal vector]

So what are the ideal rolls?

[eternal panther]

reroll

[iron pond]

Wait, if you choose MDC as main…you can get it as secondary?

[normal vector]

Mdc fd and ied?

[rustic ether]

u can swap after

[normal vector]

Yea

[rustic ether]

yeah

[iron pond]

So did I got lucky with my pick?

[rustic ether]

u can change them using mesos anyway

but yeah u lucky with 3xmdc main stat

[iron pond]

Oh I guess I would’ve been happy with a little IED

I can get to 50% ied but I’m in no rush

IED and FD are both needed

[harsh igloo]

Not sure I’m capping @iron pond

[rustic ether]

oo ur omen still cappin

[eternal panther]

so do hexa stat first instead of hexa skills

[iron pond]

This tells me few things on what we need to do

We should be leveling our HEXA quad star and origin skills first to help it cap

And level up HEXA stats

[harsh igloo]

Original very very expensive

[iron pond]

I didn’t look at the upgrade cost for those skills yet

HEXA stats tempted me first

But I think when rebalancing comes, our skills will get more CD and FD to compensate for all the MDC they dumped on us

Please bless our NVM

[potent heath]

This is after hexa stats enhancement? Which boss is this?

[rustic ether]

we gon keep getting neglected

[harsh igloo]

Longer one is chaos lucid

Other one is vhilla but I died after 2 min

[potent heath]

Hmm I cant based mine with c.lucid (multi) atm. You have H.will SS post hexa enhance?

Here's mine for h.will

[rustic ether]

did the boss die before your 2nd origin finishes

[potent heath]

No I dont think so...why ya?

[rustic ether]

hit count seem lower

[dull stratus]

yea

[rustic ether]

do they return the partial or full return of the mats if u reset the hexa stat?

[eternal panther]

What stats does hexa quad give

[rustic ether]

extra lines on quad star

every 4th cast of quad star gives an extra 12lines or sum

[eternal panther]

Damn looks good to unlock that first

[rustic ether]

yeah

[fringe glacier]

Anyone have a guide on what order to do hexa? Done quad star for first one.

[harsh igloo]

Indeed big struggle to cap

Not even 1 skill can cap
438m is my cap

[rustic ether]

yeah gotta do up the grid too

[harsh igloo]

Crazy so far from cap

[harsh igloo]

Better have cap and not capping then have lower cap and cap

[rustic ether]

thats true, games not lettig me buy packages

cant experience that

[potent heath]

I cast once in P1 and he died before skill is over. Thats why the hit count seems lower than usual

[rustic ether]

haha i seess

im keen to see how we perform after developing hexa skills for a while

[harsh igloo]

I’m not sure worth to cast it in P1

U can clear without it

[rustic ether]

p2 for hwill downs p quickly anyway

at least he got 2 off haha

[potent heath]

Were trying out diff strat whereby each of us taking turn to try reduce the P1/P2/P3 timing by casting 6th job skill

[harsh igloo]

We talk about chaos will?

Or clucid

[potent heath]

Hard only...its an easy clear but just wondering if we could actually make it abit more efficient in that sense

[rustic ether]

nah that was h will

[harsh igloo]

What’s easier will or Darnell

[potent heath]

No idea man.... still prepping our name lists as everyone is still "evolving" in that sense

After looking at some players that increase hexa matrix vs hexa stats....im still torn apart.

As of now, increasing mdc/fd/ied seems alluring but not really capping is kinda wasted

Versus, having additional skill like hexa quad that will/might cap also seem quite reasonable.

What to do what to do....

[rustic ether]

well, if ure impatient just go for the mdc first ngl. i think the limiting factor for hexa skills are availability of sol energy

whereas you could get fragments from TS or something, provided mesos aint a problem

[potent heath]

You're right.... if resources and availability isn't an issue this problem wouldn't really be a problem at all

[harsh igloo]

Exactly like Tony said
No way to upgrade hexa skills atm

Sol energy is very limited

[iron pond]

Do both, unlock the skills and level up HEXA stats

[tidal halo]

It is quite difficult to get 250m.
The % at high level HEXA stats will be quite abysmal. Needs a lot of luck and stars to align

[harsh igloo]

It’s 20% odds right?

[sturdy grotto]

guys i kinda curious about our ORIGIN skill

do we have some tips to get full use of it?

[iron pond]

Someone will eventually work out the odds

[tidal halo]

It might be 10% at some stage, but we probably need you to get there first.
I haven’t had anything good for HEXA stat 😅
Probably need to wait to combo with HEXA stat II and so on…

[iron pond]

Can I see your HEXA stats? And what does HEXA stat II give?

[normal vector]

whats the ideal primary and secondary hexa stat?

[late wedge]

I would assume mdc, def and fd

[iron pond]

That’s what I went with

Mdc as main and rest are secondary

[iron pond]

We should pin the charts and some of the ss shared from the HEXA skills

Not sure how do I pin

[normal vector]

ask admin

[iron pond]

Who is the admin?

[normal vector]

not sure lol

[iron pond]

lol

[tidal halo]

Nono, HEXA stats II is not released yet. It’ll probably be a content in the future…

But I had such a bad run with my main stat (1st line) of HEXA stat I, that I can only hope for one of the secondary lines to reach level 10.
And probably build on my line 1 HEXA stat when future HEXA stat gets released when the rng is a bit better 😅

[potent heath]

@harsh igloo I just passed my c.lucid. here's my battle analysis. Im at 414mdc....also! I just added lvl1 hexa quad. I think if compare to yours. Yeaaaaa, seems like hexa stats is the way atm

[normal vector]

how does hexa stat work? u pick ur main and 2ndary, and it randomly rolls you a level?

[potent heath]

This im not sure yet but as according to patch note thats what it meant....from my own interpretation at least

[normal vector]

but u can upgrade the level afterwards right? instead of keep trying to reroll?

[potent heath]

For comparison sake since we have lil data on it.

Despite h.will vs c.lucid having 10% diff in def ignore. The numbers doesn't seem quite encouraging vs hexa stats enhancement...like mdc.

If you have the resource and wanna go for quick upgrade. I feel like hexa stats is the way to go (provided luck is on your side)

Im still middle of the fence...what yall think?

[potent heath]

It seems like its reroll after reroll but let's wait for those guys that has been through hexa stats...I havent and im interested to know more too

[normal vector]

ok

[tidal halo]

No, its a random % success of either adding to Hexa stat line 1, 2 or 3 at each point you press enhance.
Best case scenario: 10/x/x, with 10 being the stat you want most. Which is MDC in this case (until further proven otherwise)

The rates starts with smth like 35%/32.5%/32.5%. and each point you enhance, it can go to either of the 3.
Total you can press is 20 times per hexa stat (any combi can happen, with 4/8/8 being the most common)

You guys can see from Trojin's lucky run that he already got 5/x/x into main line MDC. And for his 6th/x/x roll, he already requires 20 fragments and only has a 20% chance of it going into the 1st line.
In summary, the main line success rates gets increasingly abysmal and it is very highly unlikely that someone can reach 10/x/x at this juncture of the game

[iron pond]

It takes soul and frags to unlock then it’s takes frag to upgrade. I believe each upgrade is random between the main and two secondary. First 1-5 it takes 10 then 20 afterwards. HEXA stat is supposedly the easier between HEXA skills

@rustic ether can explain better than I can

[tidal halo]

For min-maxing, it's probably desirable to aim for 10/x/x.
But at this point of the game where the sol fragments are so scarce + there are so many other things like HEXA skills to enhance as well... It is highly unadvisable to reroll the lines now until perhaps all Hexa skills are maxed too

[tidal halo]

The dilemma currently is whether to pump resources into Hexa skills or Hexa stat..
This is because with our current weak HEXA quad at bare min level, our max damage can't quite high cap.
So we gotta pace appropriately and make slow but balanced progress

[iron pond]

I think HEXA skill will be time gated as you said. HEXA stat will be just rng

I think it’s depends on your mdc

[tidal halo]

Pretty much.. currently skills are limited by the big sol erda. Which are only dropped from weakly bosses or NY draw gacha.
Whereas Hexa stat is time gated/resources limited by fragments which Sacred Power maps have poor drop rates as well

[iron pond]

If you have over 350m, I think you can do skills but if you’re lower than pump up HEXA stats

[iron pond]

lol Nexon will milk this with gacha and packages for the next 2 years

But I don’t think this would be too much stress short term. Just do both

[tidal halo]

Eventually cap will be easier to reach once more contents are released, such as Hexa stat II. You can alr see there are a lot more slots on the HEXA UI.

But we should hopefully get a nice rebalance? Although roadmap doesn't seem to be suggestive of it

[iron pond]

I’m expecting it, we’re going to get higher skill CD and FD. This typical Nexon strategy like give us all these hard bosses months in advance then give us the means to defeat them at the end. Same thing now, give us all this MDC and give us offensive stats updates months later

[potent heath]

Frankly speaking im over 400 and I still think hexa stats is the way to go for now (for nl at least) judging from the low skill % of hexa quad.I feel regular quad star with H.stats might/will fare better

[iron pond]

Yeah I don’t disagree. That’s why I’m doing both

Just disappointed that the origin and HEXA Quad has low stat and cost a lot to level up

[harsh igloo]

Solid

@potent heath it was unbuffed my run

Like only chick and buckwheat

What lvl is ur hexa quad?
@potent heath

[iron pond]

HEXA QS should be the first skill to unlock right?

[tidal halo]

^ 2nd this… that lightning crap on HEXA quad’s 4th hit also feels bad. Plus it even spoils the buttery smoothness of QS zzz

[iron pond]

But does it improve dps…even a little at lvl 1?

[iron pond]

Need admin to pin this somehow

[potent heath]

Agreed!!!

[potent heath]

Can only afford lvl1 man.

[iron pond]

It’s ok, I think it gives all of us a new purpose to grind rather than just exalt and chase IED

I welcome it

[potent heath]

But what if we grind + exalt + chase ied hehehehe

[iron pond]

You can, no shame

But man, HEXA stat mdc and all this new mdc makes chasing lvl 70 AU a little less stressful

New priority is HEXA

[eternal panther]

So worth to unlock hexa quad at lvl 1 first before doing hexa stat?

[normal vector]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w9_TKWWC3HI

[normal vector]

oooh i see, make sense now

is it possible to get 10/10/10?

[tidal halo]

No, total level can only be 20.
So 10/2/8, 10/1/9 etc any other combinations are possible

[normal vector]

interesting

[tidal halo]

It works in a similar fashion to V matrix. I.e. Main stat cannot be repeated for Hexa stat II in the future

[harsh igloo]

Ah ok
I unlocked everything did stats only after

[harsh igloo]

On point

[normal vector]

so in hexa stat II, we would put FD or IED instead of MDC on main stat?

since we have MDC on hexa stat I

[tidal halo]

Yes.. unless meta changes.
And that will be story for another day when the actual update comes haha

[iron pond]

That’s what it sounds like

[normal vector]

i see

[iron pond]

Most likely IED

[normal vector]

so there is no optimal roll at the moment for hexa stat1? just stick with what u rolled?

[iron pond]

I can see future bosses have more than 100%+ dmg ignore

[iron pond]

Yeah, depending on how much you want in each of your 3 stats

[tidal halo]

The best roll is 10/x/x.
But it is rng dependent and it uses a lot of fragments. So even if it isn't perfect, just stick with it.
Perfectionist optimisation can come after all other Hexa skills are maxed (which will be a long time as the sol erda big balls are time gated by boss drops)

Essentially just roll and keep what you get for the time being.. it's will be a good power spike nonetheless

[normal vector]

i assume we dont need a 2nd page of hexa stat for training?

[iron pond]

https://tenor.com/view/patrick-star-posing-flexing-muscles-patrick-gif-4597271749464047578

[iron pond]

I think this maybe a future concern but yes, when the time comes and potentially if Nexon introduces more stats like exp or pexp into HEXA stats

But right now, sol era and frags are hot and limited commodity and we just need to be efficient on how we allocate

[iron pond]

Also should mention that it might be a better idea to start wearing kernning ring again for drop rate and PD. MDC gain from SF is minor now

[normal vector]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fNc8jtsQ_zI

this is the next 6th job skill?

ascent skill

[eternal panther]

Yeah

[rustic ether]

@graceful salmon

[boreal frost]

Guys idk if I can explain but is there a way to see if I’m capping my mdc I mean I want to know if I’m capping on any boss, idk a excel calculator or something

Where I a can put my stars and boss stats and see if I’m capping or not

[rustic ether]

#bot-commands message

[boreal frost]

Ty

[graceful salmon]

Lmk when yall have MSM made charts and stuff to pin and ping/link me to them

[graceful salmon]

Same with the other class forums if yall are active in any others! Tyty

[rustic ether]

#1059991474357424148 message

Suppp posted a few screenshots too

[iron pond]

@graceful salmon Ty! Hope you’re ready to pull MSW….ROUND 2!

[rustic ether]

or even 3!

[lavish hemlock]

Since barrage gets a duration increase, anyone unlock it first then work on hexa stat?

[iron pond]

When it’s max it will only give 18 secs. So I don’t think it’s worth it

[lavish hemlock]

Oh

Lol okay

[graceful salmon]

What’s MSW

[rustic ether]

but its 18more seconds that we could get +2lines on our lightning, could be good

[iron pond]

Could be🤷‍♂️

[rustic ether]

and also the usual 2x barrage lines too, i think ill prioritise that when i get to it

[iron pond]

@rustic ether where’s the skill priority chart so @graceful salmon can pin it also?

[iron pond]

Any idea what’s the highest sol erda you can farm in the new map?

I found the 200, not sure if they drop the 500 or 1000 ones

[harsh igloo]

Worth

It’s 78 sec up and reducing the cooldown time

To 42 sec

[iron pond]

Oh it reduced the cooldown!?

Ok I take back my comment

Just curious why they can’t make it 100% up time once maxed?

[rustic ether]

think 2min cd starts going down when u casted it, so more uptime = less cd

[iron pond]

Ahh ok lol

[rustic ether]

ive sent that to him before haha, unsure if its applicable for msm bc thats based on pc

[eternal panther]

Buff NL

[rustic ether]

#BuffNL

[tidal halo]

This will be quite broken hahaha. But it will definitely help with offburst dps

[eternal panther]

offburst is our weakness

[rustic ether]

barrage helps

[finite anvil]

Anyone can help confirm that origin skill is not pre cast stun?

If using before boss appears then it won't get the stun?

[normal vector]

What’s your guys burst rotation now with origin skill? I’m using all my V skills and then origin and then I spam quad

[tidal halo]

I've run out of skill slots and am just fumbling every time LOL

[rustic ether]

im thinking to use origin before V skills to maximize origin lines during ds4

[eternal panther]

same

[rustic ether]

what else u got on the wheel lool

[tidal halo]

I have a dash, both dark sight and the other iframe.
Stun and will skill also included as well but page 2 😂 at the moment my origin is on page 2 cuz of the long cooldown

[harsh igloo]

Last test fully buffed 1 min burst

[dull stratus]

Laughing at xenon as quietest thief

[normal vector]

https://m.blog.naver.com/x_dotori_x/223734378140?recommendTrackingCode=2

[rustic ether]

hm hes maximg origin first

[normal vector]

Any idea what’s pungma?

[rustic ether]

i dont understand this part at all

[normal vector]

From Google Translate

[rustic ether]

surely weve got some koreans here

[normal vector]

Pin ^

[harsh igloo]

I don’t agree

HEXA quad more important than origin

[potent heath]

I kinda agree too. Hexa quad is our main utility. Other than the uptime during non burst time we do need to deal dmg too

[eternal panther]

only thing bad about hexa quad is that it slows down the animation a little bit when spamming quad

[rustic ether]

should give decent amount of extra lines especially with barrage active

[iron pond]

Are you guys pouring it all until max?

[eternal panther]

hexa stat first

[keen spruce]

Yes it is, but its not in the next hexa update. KMSM got M2, Sol Janus skill and a Constellation stat system the following year after 6th job released.

[normal vector]

What’s sol Janus skill do? M2 is mastery 2?

Anyone test out if hexa quad applies to clone?

Instead of 12 lines, it’ll do 24?

[keen spruce]

Sol janus is part of the skills on the btm right of hexa matrix meant for general purpose. Its a mobbing skill you can youtube it.

M2 is mastery 2 yes for NL its hexa Assassin Mark.

[normal vector]

What do u think is M3 and M4? Showdown and four seasons?

[rustic ether]

i think pc only has 3 now right

[normal vector]

Ooh sol Janus is a common skill

[keen spruce]

M3 is hexa dark flare and showdown, plus a new passive

M4 is hexa sudden raid and death star

You can view some details on grandislibrary

[keen spruce]

Pc is done wif masteries. They did m1>m2>m3+m4>ascent skill

[eternal panther]

so pc is going to add more 6th job skill and common skill next then

[dull stratus]

yea

[tidal halo]

Actually does anyone have any idea where is kmsm at currently? m2 or m3?

[keen spruce]

they just got m2 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ITjugeoz4LI

[runic oriole]

Can someone help me out, my damage so low i dont know why

I just saw my throw blasting damage was the highest, now its all the way below

[normal vector]

so u guys r using V1 + V4 then activate origin and follow by ur rest of V skills? is that the optimal burst route?

[normal vector]

What’s ur mdc for solo chaos will? @restive lodge

[rustic ether]

pls enlighthen us @restive lodge

[restive lodge]

447m only

[harsh igloo]

Should land lvl 10 first row 630m cap incoming

🐳

[rustic ether]

ur turn to clear cwill

[harsh igloo]

I’m strong but bad mechanic
Swords is pro

[rustic ether]

swords is role model

[restive lodge]

😂😂😂

[iron pond]

same, I can't even solo normal vhilla

[potent heath]

Only

[iron pond]

btw, is everyone farming with drop rate gear now?

[rustic ether]

yeah

but i didnt really rr to dr pots

[iron pond]

i just added 10% DR souls and switch one of my ring out for DR ring

its added a little more drop

[tidal halo]

Sword where's the solo guide at?!

[rustic ether]

#Buff

[harsh igloo]

What’s Deb

Dr

[iron pond]

Drop rate for farming frags

[rustic ether]

divine rapier

[iron pond]

Going to sacrifice some exp for drop rate for the next several months

[harsh igloo]

Oh ok

[severe dust]

Do we already have some new inside information? What is the experience like. Is this still the best way after tests? Would appri it if you could share your information. 🙂

[harsh igloo]

The origin skill

Is very very very expensive

So focus is according to the order from what I understand

[keen spruce]

no need to follow PC charts, they have no MDC cap, so theirs is based off optimal dps% increase per investment.
For MSM IMO unlock hexa stat first, then increase whatever skill that isnt capping if you have spare energy. If no energy then pump hexa stat

[harsh igloo]

Bruh

Maxing HEXA stats is literally at the beginning

5th icon

[keen spruce]

ik just saying in general and probably gonna spend on rerolling hexa stat too

we are energy limited its crazy

[harsh igloo]

Ya energy is limited

But I follow this for now

[harsh igloo]

Considering doing 2nd HEXA page mine is horrible

[keen spruce]

will say 7/20 is somewhat decent, avg is actually lvl5 or so. go ham when you have excess frags!

[harsh igloo]

Bruh

Lvl 10 2nd row is 30m more cap

Gotta get that

[severe dust]

Thanks for sharing. 💪🏻

[potent heath]

What happen if you change stats in the middle to MDC. How much would u be getting?

[rustic ether]

90

[harsh igloo]

90

[severe dust]

Status: Cap 49m. Weapon: abso 44. Lvl 253.

Im not capping on bosses higher then lotus.

Question: do i go for the 6th job V5skill buffs (FD) or do I go for THE hexa page?

can share more information incase that’s needed.

Edit: Ofcours all hyper, and nodes are maxed.

[rustic ether]

you can't cap on those bosses

[severe dust]

Wait what? Really?🤔

[rustic ether]

those bosses got damage ignore, which limits ur effective mdc when ure doimg thkse bosses. find out ur actual effective cap by plugging ur numbers below

#bot-commands message

[severe dust]

Thanks a lot

[iron pond]

What’s the MDC requirement for the following bosses: hard vhilla, Clucid, and Cwill

[harsh igloo]

Lucid probably 270

Will around 400

Raw estimates

From friends that passed

[iron pond]

Thanks! Is there a HP requirement at all?

[eternal panther]

Probably over 300k

[restive lodge]

Will is +320m I would say

[iron pond]

I think I can gain another 80-100m by the end of this event. Going to sit around 350m

[restive lodge]

320 is an avg for a team not to go solo

350m might work for solo mode

[iron pond]

Probably won’t work for me, I suck at bossing

[restive lodge]

Let Tina be the Pilot

Or Liew

[iron pond]

Just brute force everything with higher MDC

[restive lodge]

Mdc won't cover the mechanics

[eternal panther]

Mechanic beats mdc

Unless you one shot the boss when 10th job comes out lol

[iron pond]

Not unless you have overwhelming MDC….which I don’t

Maybe in 4 years when things shift again

[restive lodge]

Even that won't work for a boss like Will

[eternal panther]

Stun

[restive lodge]

Tests

[rustic ether]

let me hit my cap first

[tidal halo]

Do you need at least 3 or 4 set Umbra for solo CWill then? For the set effect stat boosts?

[potent heath]

and I havent even went to c.will solo 2 weeks counting down

[rustic ether]

why havent u

[potent heath]

I never did solo Hard mode (only multi)

Now that they've solo chaos mode. I will need to pass hard mode (this week) In order to attempt chaos mode (next week) urghhhhhh!!!!!

[rustic ether]

i just passed solo hard mode this week, for you its just gonna be 5seconds in each phase kekw

[iron pond]

Pulled this from Echo discord. @graceful salmon can you pin this?

[eternal panther]

Damn wonder how he got all those information

Kmsm maybe?

[harsh igloo]

1

Xenon did lucid with lvl 70 one item

And like 60m from hexa

All gear 60 I think or most of it

[rustic ether]

oo

[harsh igloo]

Like obviously full abso

[rustic ether]

thats like 300+ too right

[harsh igloo]

How much ho he got?

[harsh igloo]

Nooo

Less 100%

I’ll check

[harsh igloo]

265 I think

[rustic ether]

looks like cwill is out of the picture with this roll

[harsh igloo]

[rustic ether]

360m im stucked in between 2 bosses

[iron pond]

What’s the MDC for hard hilla again?

[rustic ether]

it was 170m before 6th job

ish

[iron pond]

Ok I should start working on hard hilla and lucid then

Are you close to soloing it?

[rustic ether]

lucid?

[iron pond]

Yeah

[harsh igloo]

370m pass will

Mmxix did

[rustic ether]

oo is there a vid pls

[rustic ether]

i could solo it

[harsh igloo]

Lucid and hilla easy

100% clear

Will gonna be hard

[rustic ether]

yeah, have u done your will

[iron pond]

I have 257m mdc so I should be able to do it

Lucid that is

[rustic ether]

yeah possibly

[harsh igloo]

Yes

Ofc

Pre patch 285m cleared

New skill now

[rustic ether]

May i know what class is he

[harsh igloo]

Phantom

[rustic ether]

oo, 370m is the lowest ive heard so far

[harsh igloo]

https://youtu.be/qtUnwP_lXr8?si=GQrfs_na16eedisw

250m lucid

[rustic ether]

@iron pond

[iron pond]

Yeah I watch that earlier

[tidal halo]

Wait.. for CWill? I went to try the patterns with 2 set and it was very painful dealing low DMG and having to juggle the mechanics LOL.
Went back to soloing HWill multi mode rofl

[rustic ether]

what mdc are u at, cwill seem tuff

[tidal halo]

370m. The problem with CWill is I think I only saw 100+m damage drops 🥲
Definitely need more set bonuses before attempting

[rustic ether]

are you able to hit cap

[tidal halo]

nope.. I think the issue is really low skill dmg% that the game kept rebalancing and reducing.
I'm kinda doubtful even most people can reach the max of max cap even wiith Hexa skills maxed out with all the extra FD

[iron pond]

thats why I think this will come with the rebalacing

[rustic ether]

i had to get my weapon to 60 in order to start hitting cap again

[iron pond]

whats the gain between lvl 50-60?

[rustic ether]

52-60 was just under 7k pa and 20% CD? somewhere around there

[iron pond]

not sure if I should upgrade to lvl 60

[rustic ether]

made lots of difference for me, cap means nothing if we cant hit it

[iron pond]

maybe the new meta is upgrade weapon once you reach a certain MDC

[eternal panther]

Op

[tidal halo]

Yeah you're probably right. They need to do a major overhaul of all the skills % rather than editing a few jobs half-heartedly. Anw we playing the long game... It'll probably be some time in the next year or 2 🤷

[tidal halo]

To cap on bosses with strong IED?
I don't think I remember capping on VHilla or CLucid. I have a L60 weapon too. Maybe my IED is insufficient but that part of the game is diminishing returns in terms of cost and the minute value we get in return

[rustic ether]

i think ied helps with increasing the effective cap on those bosses but doesnt actualt affect ur ability to hit cap?

[iron pond]

from what I've been seeing, the next 3 years will all be about Hexa along with a new group of bosses coming

MDC will continue to come, I have high hopes for base stats or skill dmg increasing

[eternal panther]

More lines too

[tidal halo]

😂 this is usually kind of a fat hope for NLs.. cuz "quad" star. Can't shoot anything more than 4 stars.. and it's consistent for all versions of this game. Never had quad star been more than 4 lines

[tidal halo]

Is that the case?
I see it as e.g. base MDC 400m, but without sufficient IED you end up hitting e.g. 250m.. which is not hitting cap

[eternal panther]

Quinstar after quad

[iron pond]

I'm curious if Nexon will give out another source for IED other than from hexa stats

[rustic ether]

we cant hit cap on bosses with dmg ignore bc dmg ignore reduces ur effective cap for that boss, say if ure 40% dmg ignore boss at 100mdc will result u to cap at 60m with no ied

[iron pond]

100% ied when?

[rustic ether]

#bot-commands message

could plug ur numbers in here to estimate ur effective cap on different bosses ig

[tidal halo]

Is this accurate? I’ve just punched in the numbers and I’m like 80m off max cap on CLucid

[rustic ether]

used to be, idk about now

[static ether]

anybody knows the priority for which to upgrade after hexa stat? i cant rly cap. do mastery or boosters?

[rustic ether]

what are you not capping

[static ether]

everything i think

[severe dust]

Question. I’m not capping on the higher bosses with IED.

The calc doc tells me if I increase my MDC. I will hit harder on the bosses.

Is that correct? So do I need to focus on the hexa stats with max MDC?

[static ether]

i did hexa stat with lv10 add. stat as mdc, im not hitting much harder 🤣

will look to exalt my weapon to 60 this weekend and see if it changes anything

and probably open up the v1-4 hexa boosts

[glossy delta]

Brother if U not hitting cap you add cap for what

[rustic ether]

at least ure lucky with lv10 add stat haha

[severe dust]

Probably had a high MDC already?

[potent heath]

Thats a problem that everyone's gonna be jealous about

Anyways, try increasing everything else too to hit max cap. Say, potentials, bonus potential, maxed decent nodes, etc etc etc etc....its easier to hit those than a lvl10 hexa stats on mdc

[severe dust]

I mean i see what u mean, but let me ask u yout opinin if i bring it to you this way. Dont get me wrong i can hit my cap (around 50m, i have a abso weapon lvl44, all ther stats are max increased), just not on the bosses with IED, and thats logical because its designed for that. So i think, if my MDC is higher, i can in theory hit my MDC but with the IED still in place, that makes me hit the bosses with IED with higher damage. Or is that a wrong way of thinking?

and hexa stat is a very "easy". way to get from 50m to 60m MDC

[glossy delta]

If the boss has Defense, you will never hit the cap in your stat window

If you have 100m cap and boss has 20% Def you're gonna hit 80m as your cap.

You won't ever hit 100m

[severe dust]

i know that, but that implies that if i reach my MDC my damage will go up on the bosses.

[glossy delta]

Even if you go from 100m to 120m you're still gonna hit 80% of 120m

[rustic ether]

if you already are hitting your effective cap on those bosses then yes

[iron pond]

I wonder if it’s worth it now to sacrifice a few mdc for FD souls

[proud holly]

Lot of people doing that

[iron pond]

I’m behind the curve

[proud holly]

Me too im not going to spend for now all the billions I did to get mdc souls lol

[harsh igloo]

First row???

[severe dust]

I can confirm. MDC went up with 30m for now with the hexa stat. Great increase in boss damage overal.

[eternal panther]

I don’t even have hexa stat unlock

[static ether]

additional stat

[static ether]

will try working on bonus pots, decent nodes nearly all maxed already 🙏🏻

[empty harness]

@eternal panther @iron pond Can either of yall send me your bossing wheel and presets

[rustic ether]

it would still be the same thing as pinned + origin skill

[dull stratus]

yea

[empty harness]

where does the origin come in at? or you just put it on 2nd page?

[rustic ether]

wherevers convenient for urself, some put it on a 2nd page some 1st

[empty harness]

thanks

[iron pond]

yeah just use whatever your comfortable with. Just know theres a farming wheel and a bossing wheel

[eternal panther]

Origin 2nd page since cooldown is long af

[empty harness]

thanks yall

[lone berry]

Can someone help me, is this okay?

[tidal halo]

It is good to go, but since we have so many V slots now.. you may as well get 2 more slots for sudden raid and the rest of the skills. So 6 mastery skills to be maxed in total

[lone berry]

What is the core i should find?

[hexed pine]

Quick question, which is the better option to unlock first or best to unlock ?

[iron pond]

did you unlock hexa qs yet?

[hexed pine]

Yessir

Though it’s level 1

What’s the next step?

[iron pond]

hexa stat for a mdc boost

[hexed pine]

How do I select that one?

@iron pond

[iron pond]

you need to unlock it first, your short on sol

[hexed pine]

So it can be selected?

Yea I’m about to have enough soon

That’s why I’m asking now

Thanks for the info

[iron pond]

yeah you can select

[hexed pine]

Select msdc?

[iron pond]

you pick one MAIN and two secondary stats

it all depends honestly, there are two paths

MAIN stat people been picking is either MDC or IED

you'll get 20 points to use (random) and it cost frags

check the pins for ss of the stat info

[hexed pine]

It’s random or I have full control if I have the resource?

[iron pond]

random

[hexed pine]

[iron pond]

the higher the points the more rng it cost to get it to higher level

[hexed pine]

That’s a disappointment

[iron pond]

rn everyone over lvl 250 is focusing farming for frags

sol is easy to come by

[hexed pine]

Frag easier than sol, I have frag but no sol

Just grind and frags are free

[iron pond]

lol you find out soon that frags is more important than sol

[hexed pine]

I’m gunna have 1000 frag soon just from grinding

But still not sufficient sol

[eternal panther]

Need more energy

[potent heath]

Does anyone have a chart or reference that shows the upgrade progression for hexa origin and mastery (hexa quad)

Like how much stats increase at each level or do they have like additional boosts upon reaching certain lvl?

[rustic ether]

nope, but theres some screenshots on this threads that shows the additional boosts upon reachin certain levels

[potent heath]

Yeah that much i know of too.

Guess we have to assume every upgrade for origin gives 7% skill dmg whilst hexa quad gives 3% skill dmg at every upgrade till lvl30 for now

[eternal panther]

get lvl 1 for everything now since it give alot of FD boost

[potent heath]

My bad, I overlooked. At lvl10 enhancement of origin it gives 20% ied

[tidal halo]

wow ok that is 10% more than all the other skills at level 10 right?
Cuz the rest of the boost skills seem to be 10% IED at level 10

[rustic ether]

u dont get extra ied on boost skills on hexa

i think its only FDs

[potent heath]

I think other job only adds % FD

[rustic ether]

but boost skills already got ied from V matrix anyway

[tidal halo]

Oh you're right. It's just the main skill for Hexa quad

[dull stratus]

Hexa skills

[lone berry]

So… which hexa should i go for first?

[rustic ether]

like the skills? or did u mean to prioritise hexa skill or stat?

[lone berry]

Both… ? i’m not sure, i just got to lv 250

[lone berry]

I’m lost hahah

[tidal halo]

Most ppl are currently going for Hexa stat first cuz it boosts MDC fairly easily. You can try adding a few points to see if you're able to luck out with the main line MDC on Hexa stat.
But there'll also be an issue of mdc being too high and you can't hit your new cap. So when that happens, adding to your Hexa skills is the next best step

Anw, sol erda and sol fragment farms very very slowly. So just take your time and distribute it accordingly

[lone berry]

So… i add stat first…?

[tidal halo]

Would suggest you put 1 into HEXA quad (and also the rest of the Hexa mastery boosts). Or at least that was what I did immediately when 6th was released

[lone berry]

hmm

okay

[eternal panther]

Gonna need over 100m cap

[empty harness]

can i see your presets

[runic oriole]

F2p here, concentrate on hexa stats first or unlock all hexa skills first?

[iron pond]

Unlock hexa quad star first then work on hexa stats

Looks like your already did qs so work on hexa stat

[normal vector]

Anyone kno how much mdc for solo cwill? Is it 300?

[rustic ether]

probably closer to 450

[rustic ether]

depending on ur ied ofc

[normal vector]

dang

[tidal halo]

Can be done by Evan with 2set Umbra, but still kinda tough for NL cuz of the poor off burst.
Think high 300m+ and CWill should be downable by some classes

[iron pond]

BuffNL

[eternal panther]

Buff NL to let shadow partner use our 5th and 6th job skills

[rustic ether]

400 ~53ied is still the lowest ive seen so far

[tidal halo]

These stats for NL?

[rustic ether]

nah thats phantom, i tried when i was 400m 55ied and couldnt clear p1 in time 🤣 but ive also got 4x non-FD souls

[rustic ether]

and also BW i think

[tidal halo]

Evans can do it at 384m MDC with 55% IED.. pretty dope!

[rustic ether]

have u attempted?

[tidal halo]

Yes but still very unfamiliar with P2 patterns so I'm pretty much stuck LOLOL.
P1 also feels quite tedious during the off burst but just gotta push through

Think imma wait for team CWill to be attempted to get carried xD

[normal vector]

Is cwill test pattern same as hard?

[rustic ether]

nop

[normal vector]

U cleared?

[rustic ether]

not enf damage

[normal vector]

@restive lodge wat mdc u clear cwill at

[rustic ether]

hes full 2l ied

[normal vector]

[tidal halo]

There's no NL CWill clear vids around right? Can't quite find any on YouTube

[rustic ether]

no

havent even seen dubbi

[iron pond]

Is me or does being immobilize while casting quad star super annoying? I noticed a lot of classes can attack on the move. Its been annoying for me during bossing

[tidal halo]

Dubbi is my guildie. He's just hit 5 set AU so even if he clears CWill, it wouldn't be a good reflection as that's just bashing through with pure DPS haha

[rustic ether]

is he a full 2l ied guy as well

[tidal halo]

actually this I'm not too sure... But I think Sword is likely stronger

[rustic ether]

he defo is, just find it bit strange that dubbi hasnt posted any clears

hes usually one of the first ones to clear haha

[eternal panther]

Buff NL

[rustic ether]

BuffNL

[restive lodge]

420-430m mdc

[restive lodge]

Uploading right now

[rustic ether]

u r so goated

[restive lodge]

https://youtu.be/eB256ArzdNg?si=roaQftcABDCpb8Al

[tidal halo]

Wow, truly solid stuff. Pretty clean

[rustic ether]

@potent heath congrats on the clear

[daring lava]

Can anyone show me boss and farming wheel for NL, too many skill and I am confused on which skill can be linked thank you

[proud holly]

Is on pin section 📌

[rustic ether]

and insert ur origin skill wherever u deem suitable for ur own playstyle

[daring lava]

Thank you

[runic oriole]

Hi i can unlock hexa stat, is there any guide to choose the 3 stats?

[rustic ether]

choose mdc for whichever stat thst gives u the most mdc

then ied then fd

[runic oriole]

Phy dmg, att and cd useless?

[rustic ether]

not as good

[runic oriole]

Okok tq

[haughty hare]

Any idea how the presets look like? I’m going to copy load out from @normal vector . Also; start from bottom right, towards upper left when tapping skills?

[iron pond]

Scroll up and look at Swordz skill wheel in his video. I like that one

[haughty hare]

I will thanks

[severe dust]

Anyone hit 10 MDC on hexa stats yet?

[rustic ether]

probably out there somewhere

[static ether]

over the rainbow

[lavish hemlock]

Additional stat pretty easy, main not so much

[fringe glacier]

Anyone know additional stats from 6th for boosting throw blast, barrage, omen, shurrikane

[iron pond]

Check the pins

[fringe glacier]

[tardy osprey]

Hi guys, the pinned skill wheel do not have the latest new skills right? Like throw blasting? Or maple goddess? Can anyone share their recent skill wheel for both ab and bossing:)? (Incl presets?)

It feels like there are too many skills for preset..

[rustic ether]

skill wheels are still relevant, just need to place the origin skill somewhere convenient for u on top of whats on the pinned

[normal vector]

More preskill slots yay

Can probabaly fit everything in the front wheel without flipping it lol

[rustic ether]

Nice

[eternal panther]

yea

assassin mark mastery i think for hexa

[rustic ether]

whats that thing in the middle

blue skill

[eternal panther]

some new common skill from their new system

part of this i think with Sia and erel class

[normal vector]

whats the top left skill?

the assasin mark looks interesting

[eternal panther]

buff presets

[dull stratus]

Or we will take the MRT and leave

[normal vector]

whats mrt

[dull stratus]

Mass rapid transit

Or metro rail transit

[rustic ether]

mostly random threads

[tidal halo]

Can we? I’m still struggling lol, not too sure how to fit the new common decent skills x2

Too few buttons, too many skills 🥲

[normal vector]

Haven’t played around yet lol maybe this weekend lol

[dull stratus]

But still if they dun buff those weaker class, the game feels random too depending on the player

Def something must be done if the node buff to every char help a bit only

[rustic ether]

#BuffNL

[tidal halo]

Are we the weakest thief now?

[rustic ether]

pretty sure we are

[alpine igloo]

Even DB?

[rustic ether]

db is so strong

[tidal halo]

Db and shadowers are top now. But I can't tell which one is better

[rustic ether]

phantoms up there too

[alpine igloo]

https://tenor.com/view/dying-dead-monkey-gif-14754959

Thank God I'm dual levelling a paladin

[boreal frost]

Anyone already tested the new slots for presets? I mean what are the best combinations?

[normal vector]

Hexa mark is next?

[eternal panther]

Yea

[normal vector]

strugglin wit 414 for p1 2nd part lol

[rustic ether]

he had 67% ied that numbers not representative for us plebs haha

[normal vector]

lol

[tidal halo]

Yeah not very easy...
You can see Sword's off burst damage is still very good and well timed, good enough to get him between each parts of P1 without having for wait for the subsequent saferoom checks. He's really goated

[rustic ether]

hes 470m in that video or something

had a 485m 60ied NL friend try and its not easy too

[tidal halo]

but I have MDC souls, all souped up before the recent meta change zzz.
Gonna have to see if I can get some FD in instead

[tidal halo]

I am 60 IED zzzz it was really hard.
Especially seeing those <100m drops, truly tilting seeing such low dmg counters

[rustic ether]

what mdc r u at now

[tidal halo]

Am also close to 500m soon. Just got my 4 set recently 1 tap back to back @.@ (but it was my 6th and 5th tries on shoulder and cape respectively, not 1/1)

[rustic ether]

lucky man

[tidal halo]

bruhhh... my outfit took 52 tries when the stones first came out.

I was very very tilted. But nvm, all that in the past. We look forward instead

[harsh igloo]

🐳

[harsh igloo]

It’s hard
I’m very weak compared to swordzz
Only 520m 59% ied
But indeed it’s hard

[rustic ether]

how much time do u have left

[harsh igloo]

I’m too weak I’ll try with 600m cap

[eternal panther]

Buff NL

[tidal halo]

actually do you guys have origin at level 10 or close to 10 already?
apparently it’s a bit of a power spike at L10, so should help in clearing any of your next tier bosses

[rustic ether]

origin couldnt solve my p1 problems haha, but im close to lv10 now

[tidal halo]

mine’s not 10 yet lmao I added wrong skills. Wrongly went for HEXA quad. Bad skill 🌚 doesn’t really help with anything

[rustic ether]

NL is in a pretty bad spot rn imo

[tidal halo]

The problem with CWill is p3. LOL the number of webs is pretty shag

[rustic ether]

haha u gotta focus on clearing web rather than dps

[tidal halo]

but yes the off burst dps is a bit difficult to get used to for p1.
It took me awhile, but I guess we got practice mode to waste time + free buffs for trial and error

[rustic ether]

other classes are clearing at 360-400m at 50ied and i think it wouldve taken us about 450

[tidal halo]

hence I’m really hoping they release some sort of job change. Want to get out of this class 🥲 I don’t recall NL getting any more love further down the line from HEXA onwards

[tidal halo]

Yeah, i watched Evans’ clear with 2 set AU.
felt like the off burst and burst damage were quite comparable. Was so smooth!

[rustic ether]

we need to start whining on feedback channel fr