Paladin

[opaque shell]

If u don’t u can use blast

Most of the time we use HH, Smith and Mjolnir anyways

[compact acorn]

Ah I see

Thank you very much

I think I won’t use divine charge I’ll just use blast

[opaque shell]

At this point ur party clears the map quickly anyways

[compact acorn]

That’s true thanks

[stoic shoal]

Hi there! I'm asking on behalf of my bro who just hit level 200. Wondering if this is the setup he should be following?

[opaque shell]

Nah u could do 2x trios and be done for nodes

The last trio in my V Matrix is for AF u don’t need that unless u get higher af maps

[summer rose]

Hey could you tap and let me know the name of the 2 trio nodes?

[opaque shell]

I pressed on it, so you see it on the right side of the picture

Increased Divine

Increased Blast

Final Attack

[summer rose]

The node beside it is having the same effects too?

[opaque shell]

Yes we only need 3 skills x 2

[solemn patio]

i think you doing something wrong with dw

[blissful sierra]

Share your equips

I’ve halfway quit the game, don’t really have time to play anymore

[mortal salmon]

Hi, what's the recommended v skills set up for a fresh lv 200?

[heavy chasm]

V1 - V4, one of your perfect trios. Wait till level 205 to equip another one.

[opaque shell]

@heavy chasm

[heavy chasm]

Fresh 200 mate, 5 slots. I'm just suggesting the basic

[opaque shell]

Yeah I understand I would do like above said but here’s full set for later

[heavy chasm]

Alright cool, have a great day

[mortal salmon]

What are the v1-4? just the first row on the pinned?

[indigo robin]

Heard our echo is getting nerfed..

Anyone got more info by any chance

[opaque shell]

In KMS they nerfed some stuff. Basically sancro goes from 30 seconds to 10 seconds. I only have some screenshots

Translation by ChatGPT not mine

[indigo robin]

Oh interesting - so it’s sacro not echo getting nerfed

AYE YO V4

My pp?!

[opaque shell]

And Pala res goes from 60 seconds to 120 seconds

I hope they don’t copy paste this to us

[indigo robin]

Did they give something back in return??

[opaque shell]

And guess what: they buffed DK

Nothing that I read.. some extra lines and passive 10% dmg buff from that debuff skill

[indigo robin]

Hm….

So we’re not gonna be able to block both popcorns and tornadoes anymore then

Welp I sure hope they don’t nerf it that much

[opaque shell]

Well u can use the shield for 3sec and tank a hit

[mystic kraken]

my pp wth 😂😂😂😂

[mortal salmon]

What are the v skill priority?

[heavy chasm]

burst V3, then Echo, then others. thats what i did

[signal kiln]

ello , im recruiting for a will team , i need determinate player who want to learn will mechanic , we will practice saturday 17:40 to 19:05 ingame time ( just in time for fort ) requierement is 60 MDC with 20% IED we have a shade ( need pally and bishop )

[clever wagon]

Where you found the patch notes?

[opaque shell]

https://mp.weixin.qq.com/s/juCBK4kz63h7H0-7Bef55Q

I just got send the screenshots

[clever wagon]

Appreciate a lot of big changes and pally the only nerf lol

[empty pagoda]

can i know what is the third row third node? the one in purple

[opaque shell]

Spider thingy? That’s the Will node skill for level 235+ , drops from Will and u can buy it in TS

[empty pagoda]

ahh. i see. you only have 1 page of nodes? how about 2nd page? do you open them?

[opaque shell]

I have decent skills on that page

[empty pagoda]

What hyper stats do i add for farming and bossing if i have 2 diff page

[heavy chasm]

refer to this https://discordapp.com/channels/413046906638565395/709573965747847260/1240054647184429127

[empty pagoda]

Thank you!

[empty pagoda]

Anyone has a skill wheel for pala? ab and bossing

[indigo robin]

everyone's bossing wheels are probably different but AB is pretty simple

here's my bossing - but i do switch out certain skills for blink for bosses that needs it..

I probably should remove FT now that its on my pet anyway..

AB

hope it helps

[empty pagoda]

thank you !

[empty pagoda]

Can I ask what are your hyper passives for ab/bossing?

[indigo robin]

hyper skills - all 3 blast - cooldown for Heaven Hammer, and extra strike for divine charge

Heaven's Hammer cooldown is the most important for AB, if you're still new/leveling, get that first

HH, Divine Charge, blast (doesnt matter order really)

[empty pagoda]

Noted. Thank you

[latent fern]

@indigo robin can you show V matrix ? I want to see what the perfect trios are and what order should I max V skills ?

[indigo robin]

AB - heavens hammer, divine charge, the lvl 170 stun skill

Boss - blast, final atk, the skill that cast every 3 attack

Order.. personally V1, V3, V4, V2

[latent fern]

How many trios do you run? One AB and one boss trio?

[indigo robin]

2 ab, 2 boss

I switch them out when I AB/Boss

[latent fern]

Do you mind also sending me a pic of the full matrix you got going on when ever you get the chance for bossing

[latent fern]

Goodlooks brother

[indigo robin]

Only common skill that should be maxed out imo is Imp skin

Good passive stats from it

[latent fern]

Thanks for advice

[wicked flower]

Pala os good as a boss mule? I’m thinking to make a pala

[empty pagoda]

Pala is good as a main xD

[wicked flower]

I have NL and i need a boss mule 🤣

[silver rapids]

Can anyone explain how final attack works and why we get the boost node for it? I have it maxed out and I noticed on bosses about 0.5% of my damage comes from it... Almost seems pointless and I'd be better off getting something else?

Like divine charge for mobbing or something

[tacit sigil]

I know right? I never understood final attack

Unless its like Hero where they have something called advanced final attack

But the guide says so, so i guess it is what it is

[calm egret]

Min maxing I assume

[subtle wind]

What's your thoughts on crit rate emblem secondary weapon for a paladin? Mid - end game

[opaque shell]

If u got necro u don’t need crit rate

BiS would be PD emblem

Or CD imo

[indigo robin]

100% PDI

[indigo robin]

It is pretty garbage, a long time ago I asked one of the top pally what % final dmg contribute to their dmg. It was like 1.5% lmao

But the reason you get it is, it’s the only thing that’s useful for bossing.

You already have 2 boost for AB and 2 for bossing, so no point having AB skill on bossing boost node

HH - you don’t use it in bossing
Smite - you’re already gonna cap that skill so boosting is unnecessary

Final attack - extra lines even tho it’s kinda garbage

Basically nothing else is useful

[silver rapids]

Ohh I didn't realize you change vmatrix for AB, so 2 other boost nodes for HH, smite and divine charge?

Ohh I didn't realize you change vmatrix for AB, so 2 other boost nodes for HH, smite and divine charge?

[opaque shell]

Yeah we use 2 sets (AB & Bossing)

So HH, Smite and Divine Blast for AB

FA, Blast and Increase divine for bossing

[frigid hamlet]

Any sword paladins here?

[empty pagoda]

how do i sancro a party member?

[frigid hamlet]

Select their ign during the boss battle. The list that pops up on the top left hand corner of your screen

[empty pagoda]

just click on their name will do?

[frigid hamlet]

Yup 👍🏽, I like to stay on mount before echo activates. I’ll click on whoever I want to give echo to. Once the battle starts obviously get off mount echo activates and then you can decide when to prompt sancro

[undone crescent]

Do you have the link for this pls

Nvm found it lol had to keep reading

[wicked flower]

Guys can i see the skill wheel pre 200 and the hyper plz

[latent fern]

@indigo robin what order should I level my slots based on the picture you sent me for Vmatrix?

Gonna be 220 soon with this event

[latent fern]

Also what’s skills should I use in what order for the best burst

Is hammer of righteousness used in burst or just for AB

[indigo robin]

For slot I’d go v3, 1, 2, 4

[latent fern]

Thanks bro, can you also lmk which hyper stats to max, I assume final dmg and max dmg

[opaque shell]

Yes mdc and fd first

[vagrant anvil]

Do I just spam Blast during bossing? I don't use Divine Charge?

[opaque shell]

Yeah Blast is bossing

[indigo robin]

fd -> mdc -> pdi -> adi

can switch PDI and MDC depending on whether you are capping easily or not

if you're not capping then just get PDI first

[latent fern]

Bet thank you

[vagrant anvil]

Hello, I wanna ask why do we need trinode for AB? Can't paladins 1 hit mobs during AB without trinode?

[opaque shell]

For higher AF u will start to 2 shot with exp gear on. So the nodes help to do extra damage + u got space in your V matrix by that time haha

[vagrant anvil]

Thanks!!

Having fun with my new paladin, already lvl 210 and gonna try to solo ark today

[opaque shell]

Nicee yeah survivability is awesome

In my fixed pt I just walk around with hammers on and mjolnir around the map - so switched to
Blast at AF700

[honest arch]

So this tri node is for bossing, the AB is not show

But my fren using blast and heaven hammer for AB, it work too ?

[indigo robin]

you'll want smite, divine charge, and heaven hammer

blast aint great for AB

[dire finch]

hihi i just started a paladin >< can i ask why mighty mjolnir is on both page 1 and 2 of the bossing wheel ty!!!

trying to setup my pala 🙂

[opaque shell]

Some people use it with blast as preset. It’s better to wait for DS4 and use down button + mjolnir for more dps

U use 3 mjolnirs at once

I have similar as Echo

First page is for burst + iframes and 2nd page for support (res and echo) or blink

[spice jungle]

Hello, what Hyper skills are better?

[indigo robin]

Technically to maximise your dmg, you want to use all 3 charges during DS4, that’s why on my second page I have them seperate, in some bosses tho there’s too much going on, I’m not really tracking DS4 for v4 so I just use it on preset.

It’s more important to time your v3 for those bosses, v4 you just make sure you always stay below 3 stacks

Kinda just gotta do what works for you, everyone plays a bit differently

[dire finch]

thank you for responding! 🙂 trying to familiarize

[vagrant anvil]

Struggled to clear solo ark lol, just realized I need buffs to clear

I cleared using this gear :))

[dire hare]

Is that vhilla soul?

[opaque shell]

Yeah unfortunate it is

[dire hare]

Woah what's the mdc on that? Nice!!

[opaque shell]

Oh no not vhilla, just hilla

[frigid hamlet]

@vagrant anvil arachnid reflection is good for ab as well

[vagrant anvil]

What does arachnid reflection do? I don't even have that on my main yet

[honest arch]

those divide mark/judgement node no require ?

[indigo robin]

Not for AB

[frigid hamlet]

You can buy the red node from ts. It’s just an extra mobbing skill

[spice jungle]

Hey guys, one question, for the 2 first perfect trios, which is better, hammer divine blast or final divine blast?

I'm seeing that final don't do so much damage

[opaque shell]

Scroll up please

[honest arch]

don't we have the prefect trio to replace the Final Attack, im not sure got other more useful to replace it ? After try on stone training, the FA it really like you say "garbage"...hehehe

[indigo robin]

nothing more useful

[frigid hamlet]

It’s definitely minimal compared to the rest of the skills but that’s where you can maximum your dmg output. If you can get as close to capping on the low skill dmg skills

[primal thunder]

Bossing trinode:
Blast
Divine Judgement/Divine Mark
Final Attack

Auto-battle trinode:
Divine Charge
Heaven’s Hammer
Smite Shield

^ Accurate?

[opaque shell]

Yes sir

[primal thunder]

Thanks!

[silent hare]

Hi! I’m a newbie here. Do I have to choose just one trinode? Either bossing or auto-battle?

[opaque shell]

I would advice to focus on bossing (2x trio’s)

U don’t need AB nodes early on

[primal thunder]

I'm new to Paladin too 😄 🤝

It would be good to start hunting for both sets.
But like my man Cars said, the boost they give early on are not very significant.

I would not invest experience nodestones into boost nodes. That's a waste imo

[radiant dust]

I tossed all of my exp nodes into v skills

[opaque shell]

While u open nodes, save the AB ones. Exp nodes onto V skills and then to decent skills

[frigid hamlet]

Failed first wep abso attempt… be back in a month lol

[empty pagoda]

is paladin going to be nerfed? o.O

saw some post that they nerf sancro in some other server. like sancro dropping to 10 seconds

[frigid hamlet]

That’s the speculation. It’ll most likely happen

[opaque shell]

Yeah in KMS that is the case

And Pala res to 2min cooldown

[empty pagoda]

thats sad 🙁

[quick abyss]

Is there a best in slot guide anywhere?

[fiery fractal]

hello can someone help with paladin vmatrix? the pins are not very clear

just reach lv200

is this right?

i should equip these skill nodes first before boost nodes?

also what is the skillset i should use for AB/bossing

[frigid hamlet]

First one shown is for bossing, second is for ab

[frigid hamlet]

Looks like you’re just missing v4 and your perfect trios for abing. Make sure you craft the rope skill too. It’s essential for ab

[fiery fractal]

what first and second are you referring to

im so lost lol

also arent boost nodes priority?

i see all the screenshots in the pins showing the boost nodes are at bottom slots

the first few slots are skill nodes

[frigid hamlet]

The two screen shots

Being that you just achieved level 200 I’d say the most important v skill is v1 (echo). You can slowly focus on leveling your boost nodes. Unless you already have enough funding to max them?

[fiery fractal]

nah this is a new f2p account

so i should use my experience nodes on divine echo first?

[frigid hamlet]

I would yes

[fiery fractal]

im guessing these are the right skills for AB

[frigid hamlet]

Yea that works. I don’t really use GG (v4) for ab but I guess you can

[fiery fractal]

feel like GG is a great AB skill leh haha

[frigid hamlet]

It’s our burst skill so yea it definitely packs a punch.

Just not the best mobbing skill

[fiery fractal]

wait GG is paladin's burst skill like for bossing??

[frigid hamlet]

Correct

[fiery fractal]

damn i didnt know

i suppose this is for bossing? from pin

[frigid hamlet]

Yea, everyone’s set up is a bit different but those are the bossing skills

[bold bison]

for v skills, what's the leveling priority I maxed V1 > V3 > V4 > V2?

[frigid hamlet]

That sounds about right

[vagrant anvil]

Cleared solo lotus with my lvl220 Paladin alt! Possible with buffs and the IED from the event

[opaque shell]

How much mdc and how much time left? Congrats btw!

[vagrant anvil]

Thank you! and thanks to this channel for helping me set this up. Took me a little over 4 minutes, so almost 6 minutes left. My MDC 25M, and 5% IED from the Tangyoon event 🙂

[mystic crypt]

Can i see ur eq thanks

Anyone knows whats the cheapest way to craft emblem i have been trying to look up my server ts only 1 8b emblem mythic jaihin

[opaque shell]

Buying premade is always cheapest

[frigid hamlet]

That’s insane! 😂 I’ve been trying to do this on my DW alt… can’t even get thru phase 1

[vagrant anvil]

sure! here's my equip:

[vagrant anvil]

My CP a litte higher here because ropelife vskill equipped instead of DS4 (for AB)

[vagrant anvil]

I just burst and use all my iframes to survive phase 1.. sacro really unfair 😆Phase 2 I cleared without dying, but had to dodge skills or else will get 1 shot. Phase 3 I really had take my time and focus on surviving instead of dps, can only really dps when stun/burst or sacro was up

[summer rose]

Hi I know this is not the right place to ask this.. but could anyone teach me the full experience equipment for AB?
Like what to equip and what soul and etc..

[vagrant anvil]

You need utgard weapon, and 5 pc ancient or chaos pensalir set. For secondary weapon, exp emblem. For belt I use sailor belt for more exp.. for souls just use +exp souls, I personally use beefy lotus souls bought cheap from TS

[summer rose]

Oh my.. I’m using the sailor set right now

[vagrant anvil]

then of course use exp pendants and rings during AB

[summer rose]

Ok..

[summer rose]

Can I check, if I have 1 chaos and the rest ancient, does the set option still stack ?

Weapon is mythic tho

[vagrant anvil]

must be full 5 set chaos or ancient to get the effect

chaos utgard counts as part of the set though, so you can get the set effect with chaos utgard weapon + 4 chaos pensalir armor

[summer rose]

Okay so I guess the cheaper version would be ancient for all

[frigid hamlet]

Good insight. Pally is top notch when it comes to survival and burst dmg. Just need to get the hang of my dw a bit more thanks bro

[normal axle]

What are the names of the second row first two vmatrix boost nodes

In the pinned screenshot

[opaque shell]

This

@normal axle

[normal axle]

Thanks boss helped a lot

[wicked flower]

@opaque shell for hyper first FD, adicitional hit, MDC and Phy Dmg rigth? In this order?

Just looking to clear lotus rigth now

[primal thunder]

Probably not

Don’t need MDC hyper unless you’re capping

[split sparrow]

I've seen the pinned posts, I don't see anyone having mighty mjionir in their V skills, is it bad? I use it currently

[sacred sparrow]

it’s good, use it

don’t put it in a preset though, there’s slight delay when used in preset (if grinding preset it’s whatever, just not when u are manual bossing)

[solemn iron]

Do you guys use divine charge for training or just blast?

[sacred sparrow]

i use divine charge with trinodes

quite personal preference if anything

[split sparrow]

I put it on my skill wheel so I can activate as 3 hammers when bossing

[opaque shell]

Depends on if u are capping bro. Otherwise FD and ADI first

[opaque shell]

Beside our burst, one of the highest dps skills we have. If u time 3 charges with DS4 = insane

[opaque shell]

I have been using divine since 220+ but I have 2x AB trios for it. Imo it’s good for late game AF maps, but also depends on your party. I have fixed AF770 and I just walk around a throw mjolnir.

So for me it doesn’t really matter.

For Erda forest I would recommend bossing gear and blast

@wicked flower I can show u how to run Lotus. U could just buff, burst and then activate sancro to get easy p1

[mystic crypt]

Sorry can someone help out

Weapon aura or impe skin first ?

Just unlocked another slot

Tia

[opaque shell]

Weapon aura for dps

Skin if u need iframes for bossing already

[mystic crypt]

Thanks

I want to boss but i still cant get the iframe down

[dire nova]

mind sharing how you setting the "P" set in this photo?

[opaque shell]

It’s preset settings below your skill wheel

[dire nova]

Any reason you are not putting the judgmental Final Attack Boost node on the V Matrix?

[sacred sparrow]

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[stark fractal]

What's the last vskill cuz im not seeing it.

Also I only see 1 setup for vskills so which is for Ab and which is for bossing

Or are you trying to say the judgmental explosives final attack is for bossing and the striking heaven holy hammer is for AB?

[sacred sparrow]

bossing

[stark fractal]

Oh so the difference is just that 1 vskill?

[sacred sparrow]

this is my mobbing but its up to u, some don't bother, some boost smite

[stark fractal]

Also what is the purple skill. Im not seeing it anywhere

[calm spade]

Hey guys for hyper passive, i saw you guys talk about it, but i was just wondering. What is ADI?

[frigid hamlet]

That’s honestly a really good point. I went with smite but I might reconsider replacing it.

[frigid hamlet]

@sacred sparrow made a great point. Even tho I went with smite it could be a better option to go with divine judgement.

[opaque shell]

Better to have divine judgment on your bossing set. FA does little dps.

[opaque shell]

It’s a hyper skill called ‘additional damage increase’. Gives some extra dps.

[opaque shell]

In addition to this: it’s the Will node skill for level 235+. Does 35-50b damage or so

[calm spade]

Ok! Thank you. I have for now put my hyper passives on final dmg, ADI and also phy dmg increase. I just use the meso boost items and do it for free when i get them. are these 3 the ones to go for right?

[opaque shell]

Yeah if u don’t cap yet: FD, PD, ADI and MDC

[calm spade]

Ok! Thank you!

[sacred sparrow]

huh? i have both on my bossing trio

[sacred sparrow]

tbh both will work either way until mobs get way tankier, it's divine charge that's poopy 🥲

[sacred sparrow]

just to clarify here, ADI is additional line count. i do not recommend you to add that until much later as it does not directly increase your damage to your MDC

focus on FD and PDI, add MDC whenever you are close to capping, then look at ADI after those 3 are maxed or at least 20 (20-25 is really expensive so you can take your time with that)

ADI is only useful when maxed (25)

[calm spade]

Mdc meaning maximum dmg increae right?

I will focus on that. Thank you

[sacred sparrow]

yup! it means the maximum damage you can do per line

[calm spade]

Okay i will focus on the stats you told me! Thank you

[solemn iron]

I wonder how much FD we will be getting once our sancro is nerfed to 10s

[split sparrow]

Hopefully alot

[calm spade]

Hey guys, what are the nerfs coming to pala?

[sacred sparrow]

sacro 30s -> 10s
res 60s -> 2mins

[elder pond]

Guys Hi

Need a guide on Pally Trio

[sacred sparrow]

scroll up a lil bud

[split sparrow]

Hi guys is there any way to activate 3 mighty mjonirs at the same time while auto battling? Like while auto battling it waits till it gets to 3 charges than uses it

[sacred sparrow]

nope

[tame thunder]

If you set up a preset like this it'll use it three times in a row and then whenever it has charges

[limber smelt]

guys, whats a good emblem ratio for paladin? is the good old 100% ba 400% cd still reliable?

[sacred sparrow]

full cd, but 1-2 BA is acceptable

[vagrant anvil]

awesome!!

[primal thunder]

Congrats on Lotus drop bruhhhh

[solemn iron]

Paladins getting huge nerf to res and sancro

[vagrant anvil]

I feel that it is fair though

[solemn iron]

When Echo expires, it will also remove sancro.

[dark hornet]

Yep

I hope they dont bring that over yet

[vagrant anvil]

So now sancro will just serve as an iframe during echo burst I guess

[dire hare]

Not really fair when you see the DPS increase vs other classes. Paladins definitely took a hit this patch

[vagrant anvil]

Paladins are honestly broken.. that's why I say it is fair that they do take a hit and get nerfed

[dire hare]

Not complaining about the sacro nerf cause it was obviously op, but dps was never the most broken compared to other classes.

Honestly with the nerfs to all support classes and the addition of dps to replace the support function, I'd imagine many people will be upset

[vagrant anvil]

If we are talking about balancing the game, why should support classes do the same amount of dps as damage classes? And yea, understandably many people will do get upset..

[dire hare]

No arguments about this here. Only that maybe its fairer if they allowed the equipment re-roll after the re-balance patch.

[sullen sigil]

I mean pally has some small dmg buffs, only big L is sancro and Guardian which is huge but still nexon is nerfing every existing survival or iframe skill

[wispy cave]

Prolly their endgame is to ensure that every class has a levelled playing field in terms of survivability with iframes

But of course when you are so used with Sancro being such a reliable iframe for both self and party

For over 6 years

It’s a weird and tough pill to swallow

[charred yoke]

nah, they nerfed sancro so people gotta whale harder for vh

sancro isn't touched in pc

[dire hare]

Is no one else salty that we got literally 3 lines additional for v3 as a buff? With support dead and dps essentially not buff compared to others pala value is gone. Let me have my class change event now so i can rr 🤣

[charred yoke]

everyone will just say pala op deserved etc etc

[worthy siren]

Historically some jobs do cry more than others on these forums and us paladins haven't been one to cry about nerfs

[charred yoke]

sad for palas tbh they literally lost their class identity

[dire hare]

Tbf so did a few other classes like lumi

[charred yoke]

true

[worthy siren]

I wouldn't be too hung up on sacro being nerfed because it doesn't affect you as long as you're mechanically strong then sacro is nothing.

Secondly, the echo target/aggro takes the sacro nerf hit too.

The biggest buff is the removal of hp reduction for grand guardian.

[charred yoke]

yeah u're right too, some classes really got nexoned hard and never had anything decent for a long time

[worthy siren]

Being instantly HP handicapped after a burst window in vhilla has been a disadvantage to us.

Over reliance on skills like hourglass/door to force suicide to regain hp requires unintentional positioning and intentional timing accuracy.

But now we can play with full HP like everyone else fairly.

[dire hare]

Honestly the sacro nerf isnt huge to whales, seeing as anything ark and below probably doesn't need it. Its more so the mid tier players

I personally would have preferred if they made echo fd buff a passive so we can cap even without using it and the double lines and bond as an active

[wispy cave]

The nerf does affect whales in terms of mechanics adjustment

Since 30 to 10 secs is huge

Especially in bossing such as VHilla

Those pinners who are very dependent on Sancro in VHilla will need to adjust

[worthy siren]

It definitely affects in vhilla, I can't take a big gulp of water anymore in between sacro, maybe a quick sip

[worthy siren]

You are right, that's why I said the sacro nerf affects the team and the echo target more than the paladins. It's essentially a team nerf.

[worthy siren]

For ark if you are mechanically strong as a paladin, you can go in with 1hp and still clear it using the full 10mins... theoretically~

[tame thunder]

We got more than 3 lines. It'll be more like 120-240 on grand guardian (the way the skill is worded makes it confusing) and ~72 lines on mjolnir (per hammer).

Would rather have the support skills stay the same and not get any dps buffs tbh but looks like the game is more heading in the direction of less party play more solo, sad.

[solemn iron]

Overall survivability/utility is decreased. A little damage buff

[limber smelt]

Now that we have sooooo many v matrix slots do we craft all the decent/erda skills?

[sacred sparrow]

decent yes, erda up to u

i moved my matrix sp from perfect trios to decent skills, and slot in more skill boosts (unoptimized cus laze) to compensate the missing levels

[split sparrow]

Dps is slightly better and technically because of the vmatrix skill slots expansion we have 20 secs of Iframe(sacro and inpenetrable body) which is still not bad but we have to time it better now

[summer rose]

Anybody can ss V matrix here ?

Wanna re-do my v matrix to see what I’m missing out

[opaque shell]

U can do 3x trios for blast, divine and final attack

Then put +5 skill points in decent skills

I still need to make extra trio’s, but I got this (bottom trio’s are AB skills)

[remote tinsel]

Is this a decent beginner class?

[quick abyss]

Yes

[vagrant anvil]

this was sweaty but my paladin alt cleared solo ndam finally

[quick abyss]

What decent skills do you guys take and what level is worth it to bring it to?

Or actually the goal is prob everything and max isn’t it lmao

So I guess the better question is what’s the order to max decent skills?

[opaque shell]

Doesn’t really matter if u have the space

Most give PA/MA % increase

U only level the passive

I did rope, hyperbody, blink, speed infusion and then I think sharp eyes

[remote tinsel]

does pally need crit damage on weapon?

[quick abyss]

Is there a particular reason you decided on that order? I feel like rope being maxed first isn’t that useful versus hyperbody

[opaque shell]

Oh I used rope for getting more PA on my exp set for AF

In that time I switched between those

But the passives are all the same

[remote tinsel]

Does it matter if my helm is agares?

[primal thunder]

If you Necro it, it does not matter.

[calm spade]

Nice! How did you clear it? I seem to fail being that i cant clear it. Is it something i’m doing wrong? Got like decent gear, necro sword, outfit and cape

And btw guys, should i make abso from necro at lvl 40 or should i try making it lvl 50 before i try to abso it?

[flint tangle]

Newly made pali here, was wondering what the difference is between main hand weapons. Looking to invest into at least a necro weap so didnt wanna make a big decision before figuring out exactly what's the difference if any? Newer to the game only a couple months old and already made some costly decisions that are regretted to say the least lmao. So any and all info is greatly appreciated!

[calm spade]

There is no difference in hammer or sword if that is your question. But i would recommend you to go for hammer because there are more hammers for sale and more easily and cheap to exalt the hammer than the sword. And also demon slayer uses the hammer also making it again more easy to get and also sell later on.

[trail pier]

Ye, go for the hammer. I went for a sword before thinking and I regret my decision

[indigo robin]

Anyone every have issue with casting echo but not getting the buff?

Happens to me pretty often, not sure what causes it and can’t seem to find other pallies with same issue

[opaque shell]

How do u cast it?

Take me with your steps

[uneven bramble]

Pala for solo use, mihile for support

Does this skill kill monsters in sf more or aggro and threaten pala survivability more with lets say lv 3 node

Average mythic hammer

[dire nova]

damn, been watching the trade station for almost a month. Haven't seen anyone selling a lv40 Necro Paladin weapon.

[remote tinsel]

What is a better Jewel set for paladins?

[vagrant anvil]

It is hard, I have Necro weap, good gloves and shoes. All other equips are trash. It takes me maybe 3-4 burst cycles to clear N Dam, and in between cooldowns I focus on surviving and clearing the brand. Really need to time the iframes wisely because you won't be able to use the altar when your iframe is on

I have been clearing it weekly now and what I realized is that if you know that you already have dps to clear, all you need to do is to focus on surviving so really need to learn boss mechanics

[calm spade]

Yeah i cleared it about 4 days after that message but it was very difficult and i almost ran out of time

[opaque shell]

Still running blue jewels since forever here

[calm spade]

I feel like i have good gear, but not good enough it seems like

Same^ need 2 more ss for full ss set xD

But i still see people rocking the boss attack one, but i think it depends on your stat and what you need the most i guess

[remote tinsel]

What belt do we use? Green buckle?

[primal thunder]

Hi, just to confirm, if my Paladin is just an alt soloing minor bosses for now, V1 Divine Echo isn't as much of a priority to max? Only benefit is 60s buff duration looks like.

Seems to me maxing V3 Grand Guardian would be a bigger help

[vagrant anvil]

My alt has Guardian and Mjolnir maxed and I only use it for solo boss content

[primal thunder]

Hehehe exactly what I'm thinking. Thanks bruv!

[novel matrix]

So how is Pally these days? Coming back after a long break and since I never made it far in general I am just going to start fresh. Juggling between Pally and Shadower but I like to tank and I feel Pally would fit that more so if there is such a thing as tanking in this game

[primal thunder]

Paladin has more i frames I believe

Being the tank/aggro is a privilege for the top DPS in this game anyway

[novel matrix]

Gotcha! Well i made me a Pally

[novel matrix]

There any decent guides? Skill bar setup and what skills to mainly put points into and so on?

[opaque shell]

Pins or checkout EchoMSM videos

[novel matrix]

Guess vids it is, don’t much understand them screenshots yet 😅

[opaque shell]

Pre-200 doesn’t really matter aye

3 in Blast

1 in Heaven’s Hammer cooldown

1 in divine fd

[novel matrix]

Gotcha

[remote tinsel]

What’s a good bossing set and weapon and training set and weapon?

[novel matrix]

So for my skill wheel, what would be the recommended skills for mobbing/bossing? Currently lvl 165

[opaque shell]

Well just divine or blast depending on damage and survival

Game really starts at 200+

[novel matrix]

Gotcha

[novel matrix]

Did I waste mesos buying this? 9m-ish

[opaque shell]

Nah 9m is dead cheap

Good for starting with and flame too

[novel matrix]

Sweet

[remote tinsel]

Just leveled to 200. Whats the important trio boss nodes?

[primal thunder]

@remote tinsel

[remote tinsel]

Why i cant click it xD

[remote tinsel]

do i just prioritize all these 6 for now? And add things later?

[remote tinsel]

Are those the perfect trios?

[sick frigate]

😁👍

[novel matrix]

Would love a dummying down of the V Matrix if possible. I’m lvl 204 now and haven’t touched it yet.

[tacit sigil]

Trios

Replace the third trio on the primary with Final Attack (the trio that has a F on the pic) if its possible

Otherwise as long as you have these 6 its good to go

As for your V skills Im pretty sure you focus on maxing Grand Guardian first which is your burst skill

[novel matrix]

Appreciate the info!

[vagrant anvil]

cleared hdam with normal buffs in practice mode, 2 deaths. Will go for it this week when reset, though no more 7% IED event buff

[frigid hamlet]

I’ve really been considering rr my weps mdc soul. However, none of my other equipment have mdc on them yet. Which would y’all say is the most bang for your buck? I’m not F2P. (Most of my meso income is from farming tho)

[dire hare]

What's your wep soul atm?

[frigid hamlet]

Pierre

[dire hare]

And you plan to rr the soul to which? 1.6m mdc isnt much if you fail, but the cost to buy a chance to rr could be very expensive. Might be more worth to find other more efficient ways to spend your mesos. Just my 2 cents

[opaque shell]

I would try your luck when MDC souls are in Golden Apple

I was aiming for FD% too, but got 4.2m mdc and I am happy about it

I cap anyways

[frigid hamlet]

Yea, I’m saving up to buy primals for the signet. Hopefully slap a mdc soul on that first.

[frigid hamlet]

I was probably going to try ark souls. They’re relatively cheap. When I was rolling my Pierre soul it was 2.5-3b back then. Now Ark souls are around 1.2-1.5bil I can probably justify that.

[dire hare]

Id suggest you weigh out how many souls you are willing to buy and how much 1.6m affects you if you arent able to get another mdc to replace, such as qualifying for certain boss runs. If you have fixed runs its less risky

[solemn iron]

End game is FD now. Since mdc is so plentiful from gear / other sources

You also want your souls to be matched, so you get phy attack bonus and its pretty substantial

[frigid hamlet]

I see, I always thought mdc was top priority. I’m only at 60mil cap currently.

[solemn iron]

Probably still is because hitting cap at 60m is easy now whereas if your cap is 200 it isnt so easy

[signal spoke]

This is probably a dumb question but how do people sell soul in ts? Can I just sell the soul i get bossing?

[opaque shell]

The one u craft is for self use only

Im not sure about mdc souls

Most people get them from Golden Apple

[vagrant anvil]

Sweaty, but cleared hdam

[frigid hamlet]

I don’t see getting anywhere close to 200mil anytime soon

[vagrant anvil]

Crafted magnificent souls are tradeable in TS. Normal souls are not

magnificent souls from golden apple have "exchange ticket" at the end

[burnt zephyr]

Is there a reason why most pallys use hammer instead of 1H sword? Is it weapon speed or base attack difference?

[tacit sigil]

More supply

Hammer can also be used for demon slayer

Also aesthetic purposes

[burnt zephyr]

Ahh okay thank you! 🙂

[frigid hamlet]

Before the revamp paladins had sword animation in their skills. Even before that back in old school gms days we had sword/hammer and shield options. I always loved that aesthetic. Hence, why I’m a sword pally to this day.

[turbid palm]

Used an event emblem scroll and landed this - good base to upgrade to replace my event weapon right? Seems like the right base and emblem, next steps would be star force up then rank up to legend/mythic?

[tacit sigil]

Sf to 18

If it breaks craft unqiue restoration scroll

Using other unique items

Rank up to mythic

Exalt to 40 and refine it

Attempt necro

[turbid palm]

Awesome okay will do, thank you!

[jagged elk]

any paladin bossing rotation ? And farming rotation

[frigid hamlet]

@jagged elk

[jagged elk]

paladin secondary go for CD or Exp or BA ?

[opaque shell]

PD for bossing (alternative: CD)

Exp for ab

[limber smelt]

what does magic crash and noble demand do?

[carmine osprey]

Why is this class so popular?

[opaque shell]

We had 30 sec iframe and were able to give it to others

Also with a clone damage

Solo res someone

Good for tankers/agro during bosses

Our burst is also strong with mjolnir

[summer rose]

But I think the only downside of a pala
The skill animation, blast makes a pala keep jumping and feels like dmg is out slower
The burst is also lagging behind 1 second before it actually does dmg

[random slate]

A lot of other classes has fewer lines - the jumping animation doesn’t matter, and other classes bursts can take longer to start up and even longer to end

[summer rose]

Agree to this. I’m not fighting. I’m just laying out the pains of a pala

[solemn iron]

Paladins are trash off burst.

I main paladin.

We are primarily a support class, our only claim to fame is being able to echo (damage buff) to someone who is stronger

[summer rose]

Sadly ya that’s what we are recognise for

[turbid palm]

That's exactly why I liked it for a first main though - great utility even if the damage isn't all there

[dire hare]

Pala were great before the support nerfs. New bosses like vhilla also require more mobility which further reduce our dps as we dont have a skill we can use while moving outside our burst. You only see tons of paladins because the nerfs were relatively recent and prior to that we were among the top classes

[blissful sierra]

Sancro was destroyed right? From 30s to 10s I believe

[frigid hamlet]

Yea, however they did increase impenetrable skin to 10s

[calm spade]

Thats crazy. I cant seem to avoid hos dashes that 1 shots me, how do you counter that?

[vagrant anvil]

You can't counter it, you got to anticipate it and dash to the other side so you don't get one shot

[vagrant anvil]

or time an iframe when your damien brand count is low so that you can still clear it later on. (this is more complicated because I found that altars won't work if you have an iframe on - so if you can't work around that I just recommend really dodging it)

[calm spade]

Okay so just dodge it and anticipatw it

[calm spade]

Anyone can help me w lotus run in scania eu?

[solemn iron]

Buff Paladins.

[solemn iron]

Wth they buffed every class aside from paladin.

[tame thunder]

How do the hexa stats fit in to that? Would we max it first?

[frigid hamlet]

Found this on a Reddit post.

Seems that hexa stats are last priority.

[tame thunder]

Interesting..

[frigid hamlet]

Haven’t found any maple m info regarding hexa matrix. It’s all ms global data

[sacred sparrow]

i dont think you should be following pc hexa priority

[opaque shell]

Anyone care to share the hexa skill increase for level 1 on Guardian?

This is hexa blast lv1

[frigid hamlet]

I went with blast first as well.

I’ll probably just end up following the pc version until we get something for msm that states otherwise

[tame thunder]

It looks like prioritizing the hexa stat is the way to go, especially if you’re capping at your current mdc. That’s what I’m hearing from others at least.

It’s a little rng but even with bad luck you’re still gonna get a pretty significant mdc boost and some ied/fd to boot. Which is gonna push your damage a lot more than the hexa skill points would.

[opaque shell]

Yeah I am putting 1 in blast and 1 in echo (3 extra seconds) then going hexa stats

[tame thunder]

If it's the same as other classes it'll be 11% fd

This is for DB, but I imagine it

's similar

[frigid hamlet]

Is it one stat per skill?

[tame thunder]

It costs 5 energy to unlock (and I think 20 frags?), and then after that it only costs fragments to level up the stats

So you can use energy you get after towards skills. But probably still better to prioritize the stats for your fragments.

[solemn iron]

Highly recommended echo hexa skill, gives more DMG and more duration to echo.

[sacred sparrow]

yep hexa stat is bonkers, every stat is valuable there so nothing can go wrong

[opaque shell]

Yeah 3 seconds more DPS I agree

[umbral jasper]

Hey c I am new to paladin class, is there any good guide for the v skills? And good presets for bossing.
Thank you 🙏

[calm spade]

I think there is pinnee guides @umbral jasper

[umbral jasper]

Thanks I will check

[valid jacinth]

new to the game, should I level an iel or a paladin?

[mossy canyon]

Do an iel while the event is going so you can benefit from all the bonuses. You can work on a paladin later.

[valid jacinth]

thanks

[errant oxide]

Hi guys, just wondering which skill that you guys use for training after the update? Divine Charge or the new update Hexa Blast?

[opaque shell]

I did origin skill, then Hexa Blast and then 1 in Echo for 3.3 seconds extra buff.

Then I went to Hexa stats for some extra juicy mdc.

Oh sorry for AB! I still use Divine charge - didn’t change it.

U think it might be better because of new hitcount @errant oxide ?

[tame thunder]

I did a little testing with both, solo party in spf30, basically same kill count. But I am using my bossing weapon so I was one shotting with both skills. Probably need to do individual testing to see for yourself.

[opaque shell]

Im making a belt so I can wear 2 set umbra and rest exp set - then I can probably one shot with divine, now il just use hexa blast

Using 40 necro exp btw

[frigid hamlet]

I’ve been using hexa blast during ab and one shotting with exp wep

[signal surge]

Can I see your preset skill pls?

[indigo robin]

whats everyone AB setup for duo SP30?

I was in full party and was getting ~1/hr but switched to duo and somehow getting almost nothing

[mystic crypt]

it's just rng

the easiest way is to up drop rate

proven for sure

[tame thunder]

This is from solo spf20, biggest haul I’ve had so far

[mossy canyon]

Is your drop rate like 500%?

[tame thunder]

Lool no, 66%. 76 with mu lung star candy

I think I just got stupidly lucky. That was my first time over night at spf20 though, so maybe it’s the map? I’m gonna try it again today and see

[mossy canyon]

Still pretty nutty. Let me know how that goes. Maybe solo is worth the pexp loss

[opaque shell]

Around 10k kills per hour

Try to get more speed %

and if u dont one shot try Hexa Blast

[tame thunder]

Solo is definitely the way imo. Maybe duo if your partner has high dr

[opaque shell]

Drops are good, kills is possible to get 11.5-12k

[tame thunder]

I was getting 11k/hr at spf30 but it dropped in spf20

[opaque shell]

Aaah I see

[tame thunder]

Not that I'm complaining cause I got twice as many drops as I did in 30

But it was just one night, so maybe I just got insanely lucky

[opaque shell]

Ah sweet I read over SP20 sorry

Il try it overnight too

[tame thunder]

Needs more testing for sure

It's worth it to do at least for one night anyways just for the monster collection, that's what I was doing there in the first place

[frigid hamlet]

Dang dude! I need to try this too

[tame thunder]

Unfortunately I think I just had a stupidly lucky night, this was from last night testing in the same map:

Still decent drops, but not quite as crazy.

Was getting a lot more energy in sp30 as well, so I'll probably go back there for now

[frigid hamlet]

Copy, thanks for sharing

I’m getting close… looking forward to the boost. I’ve noticed that I’m going to have to start working a lot more on FD as well.

[tame thunder]

So close! The mdc boost feels so good

[frigid hamlet]

Would you agree? I’m not capping consistently. Not to mention, my ied is really low which probably factors in a lot

[tame thunder]

Yep I would probably try for more fd and ied wherever you can get it. Flames probably your best bet if you haven't gone down that route, just really expensive : (

[frigid hamlet]

Sounds good thanks! Yea, figures. I’m not F2P but pretty much only spend on getting crystals to keep m pets alive. I only do flames from events…

[tame thunder]

At least we're getting a lot of leg flames from events lately! Hopefully it keeps up that way

[solemn iron]

Go whichever map you can kill more per min/hr.

My avg in ss30 is around 11.6k mob an hour

[opaque shell]

My friend and I too - do u use rush in ab skill wheel?

[solemn iron]

Yea, you wanna move around the map and while proccing fever.

[rich ether]

can you show hexa divine judgement? tia

[dire hare]

In case you need the others as well.

[rich ether]

Thanks! Additional 18s of echo at max level?

[dire hare]

Thats my understanding as well.

[rich ether]

siiiick

[dire hare]

Helps with v2, v4 and hexa blast but doesnt benefit our origin and v3 which are our major bursts

[opaque shell]

I thought 30 > 33,3 after level 1 and then u go to 40 sec

[rich ether]

Oh I counted 3s on each 10 levels + 30*0.3/

[dire hare]

I also count the same as you. Need a whale to confirm it

[opaque shell]

It goes to 39.9seconds

So 10sec more dps is huge

Although origin level 10 gives 10% def ignore

[dire hare]

Damn the additional 1.5s at 10 and 20 looks misleading then

[spiral spoke]

hi is there any updated ab wheel and bossing ? the pinned was 2 years ago. unless it’s still similar now ?

[solemn iron]

@spiral spoke

[spiral spoke]

thanks!

[calm spade]

Hey, any tips on fighting gloom?

[opaque shell]

Save iframes for darkroom

Fly fly fly

[frigid hamlet]

Wait the for the eye to open then burst

[dense galleon]

Does any paladin mains know if you need to manually select the character on the party list before pressing the single ressurection skill, or you can just press it and the skill will automatically revive any dead individual in the party?

[chilly tangle]

Omg bump. Would make sense, ngl. Here I thought It was only for divine intervention and the res was random (when dead ppl res it doesn't consume a res count). But I am intrigued to see what the answer is too 👀

[uneven trench]

Random

[opaque shell]

Pala res is random

[chilly tangle]

Hey guys, I'm either very dumb or I'm missing something here haha. I just got carried in hard Ark. But before the person left, they said "sr cd skill." I'm a pally. Does anyone know what this person meant?? Just want to know if it's something for me to fix/do better for future reference.

Oh the person did die once to back-to-back screen cracks even when I had divine echo on him and used sancro. I may have overlapped with his ethereal form

And I died once too

[oblique eagle]

Where bonk uniform???

I want bonk uniform

[dire hare]

Its probably sacro skill on cd, to inform that there is no frame. Sacro now only has 10s so if you casted it too early its possible you die at the second crack

[chilly tangle]

Ah ok. I thought that's what he meant but I wanted to make sure it wasn't anything else haha. Thanks

[twin dune]

am i using the right skills on my pets for boss damage ? at any point should i swap out my starting buffs ?

[opaque shell]

I would advice to manual buff

So echo the person with most dps, then manual buff and then burst

[twin dune]

yeah iv seen he manually does his hammers aswell, is the your burst buff skill preset in 3rd collum ?

[opaque shell]

Yess

[twin dune]

Im struggling to hit my MDC on 42m. Am i doing something wrong here or am i asking to much

[opaque shell]

If u want to cap u need to increase FD and PA with a combination of DEF ignore Rate + CD%

Can u show me your hyper stats?

Legion + Link skills

[twin dune]

sorry that was without my bossing legion preset will send through again

does this mean im capping the 32M hit ?

i guess i cap when all my buffs line up on the first burst, again another reason for me to manual all my buffs so the ied lines up again. Is that correct ?

[opaque shell]

Yeah always manual buff or keep an eye on when buffs are up, then burst

Mjolnir x3 when DS4 is up

Always check if DS4 is up before burst

Your Legion is a bit low I think for extra PD

Probably same for Link skills

So level some alts

You can do 3x trio instead of 2 so u can use the +5 skill points on other skills

[twin dune]

my jaw dropped when i saw that leigon xD

ok noted more legion and stop being lazy and time my bursts

[opaque shell]

If u get burning event make sure to level some alts haha

Good luck mate!

[twin dune]

Whats the best way to increase my max damage cap ?

[plain raptor]

hexa stat

[twin dune]

Im currently saving my sol erda, how much does it increase mdc by ?

Sol erda farm is going to be a slow farm i can only clear lotus atm, close to clearing damien

[uneven trench]

Best case 250m

It’s luck based

[twin dune]

God dam ok sol erda it is

[opaque shell]

125m cap if u get middle or bottom row

Which is more then enough

[twin dune]

Thats massive here i am looking for a mill here and there

Guess im saving my sol erda

[lethal solstice]

@solemn iron hi sir,would u share ur item drop rate%? hw are u able to get that much..i only ableh to get 12 with 50%

[solemn iron]

85%

[solemn iron]

Mostly RNG.

[lethal solstice]

what ur usual drop? hw many per day

[solemn iron]

Around 2 per hour on average.

[lethal solstice]

thats still alot actually,probably ur using Mpet?

[solemn iron]

Yep

[oblique eagle]

how to get lv194-198 without throwing it all away

[opaque shell]

EoS and KT?

[oblique eagle]

Oh yeah its all done lmao

[solemn iron]

If your kill count is high, you get more drops too

[tight current]

What are we aimingfor here as paladins?

[lethal solstice]

i also kill around 9.5k perhour,but i only get around 5pcs per day ,highest is 9 ..now i using ur skill preset also the same bro..probably bcuz i use normal blue pet

also my drop rates is 52%

[indigo robin]

same for every class MDC IED FD

[faint vale]

Dr%?

[opaque shell]

So no more 5 stacks?

I didn’t check old value versus new value is it just changed to passive or did we got a small buff/nerf?

[faint vale]

Same total value before and after patch. Difference is dont need to stack anymore.

[opaque shell]

Alright thanks

[uneven trench]

Good QoL change

Always 5 stacks

[oblique eagle]

Do yall have an opener you useually do or just throw the kitchen sink

[uneven trench]

Dps buff and throw down all your mighty mjollnir right before boss spawns

Then origin and will node and v3

Don’t have to build up hammer stacks for opening burst now

[lethal solstice]

small nerf

i did dps test before and after patch

but juz a bit

[oblique eagle]

I only have the first 10 unlocked of the v matrix what should I put in?

[undone crescent]

Crit dmg is low and FD is low. IED flames would be a good thing.

[twin dune]

Whats a good baseline i should be aiming for with these stats ? 400% CD 100% FD and 10% IED ? I get that i get ied from my skills etc just wondering on what my stats should look like without buff and skills

[undone crescent]

I think you could get 20% IED no problem make sure all your flames in gear have at least one IED flame. Maybe use some mag final dmg Cygnus souls. Make sure your emblems are all lvl 4-5 the CD ones

[onyx badge]

Im new to pala. Can ask after first burst rotation doing buff, noble demand, mjol then grand guardian. Do you use still use mjol even 1 stack or wait for 3 stacks or just use it whenever echo and other buff still up then wait for 3 stack again? Cause it seems the skill animation kinda slow doing divine and blast + applying noble demand then mjol

Please correct me if theres wrong also in my rotation

Cause i tried attacking ark before it seems needs to apply Noble demand all the time since i only have 113 cr although i cant finsh it yet alone cause i remember with my main before it has kinda need more cr res

[opaque shell]

If u wanna have some pro tips; watch EchoMSM on YouTube

One of his latest videos he is showing how to manual buff en burst

[onyx badge]

Right i just remember i watched his YT way before. Forgot his pala main. I just go here suddenly to ask. Alright I'll just find that content. Thanks!!

[opaque shell]

If u have questions left u can always ask here, but his videos are quite complete

I use 3 stacks mjolnir on DS4

Manual buff too

Origin > 3 stack mjolnir > grand gardian > will skill

[onyx badge]

Yeah seems manual buff is the way. Especially the echo is way too big of a buff and when its down only spam blast is the dmg. I came from DA that off burst is kinda nice. But pala has incredible good buffs and fast burst

[onyx badge]

Thanks for this!

[novel matrix]

Any good guides for skill preset, auto battling skill bar setup and bossing skill bar setup along with hypers and vmatrix stuff?

[opaque shell]

If u scroll up aye or check pins

[uneven trench]

Anyone tried taking out divine charge from farming wheel now that we are at 5 stacks permanently

[faint vale]

Without divine charge
Just rush and the rest aoe

With divine charge part of skill wheel

Not that big of a difference

[uneven trench]

Ah I guess no difference at all

Gotta wait till we get hexa divine charge

[novel matrix]

So I checked pins and I see some pics of some skill presets but are they bossing or ab-ing? Even clicked to go to the original message and it doesn’t state 😅

[opaque shell]

For AB this:

For bossing I use this:

[blissful sierra]

How’s the hexa blast skill?

My Pala is pretty much on standby, with 6th job I was wondering if I should revive it

[opaque shell]

Different animation and 3% more dmg per level that’s it

[blissful sierra]

Ah alright

Doesn’t change target count?

[uneven trench]

5

[blissful sierra]

Interesting

[twin dune]

does anyone know how to clear this quest ?

[twin dune]

solved - it will stay there untill i clear BM

[oblique eagle]

all hail the updated boon skill wheel

[uneven trench]

Do any of y’all divine blessing your echo target

Too bad we can’t put divine blessing in buff preset

[dire hare]

Used to do it but stopped when I saw no one else bothering to

[toxic rain]

So just hit 200. Is there a trio for pally?

[opaque shell]

https://tenor.com/view/check-the-pins-kowalski-penguin-gif-20219688

Blast, FA en Divine = main trio

[toxic rain]

Sorry they are 2yrs old didn't know if relevant.

Thank you for info and quick response

[toxic rain]

Divine charge?

[quick abyss]

Is there a HEXA Matrix level up guide? Are we supposed to focus on skill node? Mastery node? Boost node? A little in each?

[uneven trench]

Back then everyone was capping so just wondering if it is worth now when everyone trying to reroll FD souls

[dire hare]

Nah divine charge isnt so relevant if you have v2 and can kill mobs now

[dire hare]

Everyone is still figuring but baseline i believe is to unlock everything then get lvl 10 on origin first

[opaque shell]

No the increase for blast and divine

Second il log and show you

[opaque shell]

I would advise unlocking hexa blast, echo and origin. Then go origin level 10

After that it depends on what u cap.. still debating between hexa blast or echo (for extra uptime)

[toxic rain]

Is divine charge used at all after level 200?

[onyx badge]

Personally after 200 im using blast cause we have extra aoe from v skills. Maybe im not using hyper and node from divine charge. Since bossing is blast anyway and difference is small when using divine charge for farming

Im using also leap dash in node instead of divine charge so its pretty neat for farming

[toxic rain]

Sorry do you use any nodes for 3x a skill or do skills nodes only work for 2x each?

[onyx badge]

My set up is this, do take note its personal node. Only change was divine charge changed to leap since i don't use divine charge.
Leap/divine judgment/smite x2
Blast/final attack/heavens hammer x2
Total of 4 slot.

Can always check the recommended from the pin.

Also divine judgment is for blast in case it might cause a confusion

Also as mention above v skills is pretty much do the job specifically mjolnir and hammers of the righteous since this skill dont need to stack anymore its always up

[twin dune]

is it not worth doing a 3rd node at lvl 25 for the phy atk increase ?

[dire hare]

nodes max at 60 even if you have 3 lvl 25 nodes

[frigid hamlet]

I need some advice guys.
What should I work on next? Fixing hexa stats or just level up hexa skills?

[opaque shell]

Hmm I think u need some more def ignore on flames, aim for 125m mdc on hexa page and please level origin to 10 first before doing blast

Aren’t u already capping?

[frigid hamlet]

Doing flames F2P waiting on event flames. I’ll work on origin next thanks. I only cap on blast when echo is up

[uneven trench]

You are overspending your sol erda on blast

Divine echo gives more damage overall (after origin 10)

[clever quartz]

Hi guys,

I’m erel main but wondering if it’s worth moving to pally?

[dire hare]

Depends what you are looking for in a switch. If you want dps, stick to erel

[clever quartz]

Thanks.

[harsh mantle]

The timeline if a time traveler moved a chair:

(secondary weapon slot)

[dire hare]

How are you planning to build your hexa matrix? Lvl 10 origin and then all into divine echo?

[uneven trench]

Lvl 10 origin then lvl 10 echo first and see how it is

Maybe a few extra points into blast if it is cheap enough

[dire hare]

if this is done what do you think of going for next?

This is mine atm

[uneven trench]

Echo

Assuming you already cap v3 and mjollnir during burst

[dire hare]

thank you boss

[quick abyss]

When do you go for HEXA Stat?

[opaque shell]

250

[slate bone]

hi, can ask for advice for bossing sub please. if i only have full emblem eqp for one warrior char, should i put it to make pally or DS? (so happens that i only have hammer)

[woven peak]

only can cut over armors. weapons no.

[quick abyss]

What are the optimal HEXA stats?

[opaque shell]

U mean the hexa page? I would aim for middle or bottom with 90-125m mdc.

If u mean skills: Origin 1, Blast 1 then go origin 10. Then I went blast to 10.

After that it’s checking your stats if u cap or not and adjust accordingly

Im planning on 10 on echo then back to Origin I guess

[novel matrix]

So I see the pins for skill wheels but which is for auto battling? And are they still good for now since those are from over 2 years ago

[opaque shell]

Depends were u auto battle

In SP we don’t use blast or divine, in SF/AF we do

[novel matrix]

Don’t think my gear is good enuf for AF atm but my Paladin is like lvl 215 I think

[opaque shell]

Divine then in SF

[brittle gull]

what hyper skill paladin best focus on>

[woven peak]

#1059990734981308436 message

[indigo robin]

wait you dont use divine charge on SP?? what do you use?

[opaque shell]

Everything else haha

Erda shower etc

Rush/leap

[uneven trench]

Honestly just mjolnir and heavens hammer is good enough

[indigo robin]

what the.. leap, erda shower??

[indigo robin]

oh ok i'll give that a go and see how much diff it makes

whats everyone kill/hr at SP30?

[opaque shell]

Around 10-11k I believe

[indigo robin]

yeah same, solo i'm always just slightly above 11k

let me test without divine

hm weird, my character is super buggy without divine lmao

[opaque shell]

mjolnir is a beast in sp

[mystic crypt]

havent even use d charge since 200. SPF 20/30 also ard 10-11k with crappiest gear only 1 necro weapon so I believe that's the norm

i am sure if you got better speed etc can do way higher seen some pala do 12-13k as well.

[indigo robin]

dunno why but when i removed dcharge my character got real buggy and just walked back and forth without casting anything

i am using chaos utgard but I'm 85-95% crit so not sure that my abso wep would be any diff

maybe its my skill wheel

[opaque shell]

I use my abso and no problems

[mystic crypt]

my skill wheel

is the crappiest skill wheel possible

and seems fine

The

i use the same skill wheel for boss/ab

no preset the middle one is just all the buffs lump together

got all the erda/will blink etc all on page 2 with my origin

maybe if it persist you maybe take a 1min vid for the experts in here they can tell you whats the issue maybe

[trail crane]

hyper passive guide?

[mystic crypt]

All 3 in blast

Everything else doesnt matter

But most people go double divine charge

[opaque shell]

My skillwheel for SP30:
No blast or divine charge. On 2nd page only ropelift (to be sure it activates)

[mystic crypt]

presume u got cd cutter ?

how much u doing per hour ?

[opaque shell]

10-11k an hour

My droprate is low so sadly 1-2 per hour

And yes CD

[mystic crypt]

but that's normal no ? 1-2/hr

[opaque shell]

Yeah

[quick abyss]

For the HEXA matrix, what is the most optimal route to go? I currently have lvl 1 of all the Skills and started to put points into the HEXA Stat page

[opaque shell]

Origin to 10 first for extra DEF ignore on it, then I would go 10 hexa blast, then just add to the skills that are not capping.

I am just putting everything on 10 first, because of the maxed out sol erda otherwise

[quick abyss]

So you don't have anything in your HEXA stat page yet?

[opaque shell]

oh sorry I misread that, sorry. I did origin 10 first then got my page to 125m MDC and then went back to skills.

Didn't want to waste to much frags on hexa page, it mostly gamble anyways

[quick abyss]

Welp, guess I'll work on getting my origin to 10 then

Rn, I can solo multi Ark, single Lotus, single nDam, single nArchon. If I hit lvl 10 origin, would I be able to participate in Multi Lotus, multi HDam, and multi HArchon and actually get something

[opaque shell]

How much MDC u got?

[quick abyss]

How do I know what my MDC is

[opaque shell]

Stats > Maximum Damage cap

[quick abyss]

Which stat is MDC? None of the stats are labled MDC

[opaque shell]

This is from my alt:

[quick abyss]

69mil is my MDC

[opaque shell]

Yea should be possible, although hard archon might be PE drainer

[coarse badger]

Bro do u use ppet tho? ^^ coz im running on normal pet and on sp20 so wondering if this skill wheel works as well.. ^^

[lethal solstice]

@solemn iron thanks,seem map20 is better for pala..using ur skill rotation while having mpet is like double the drop

[opaque shell]

I use mpets yes in SP30

[opaque shell]

Im now trying SP20

[random slate]

I tried using this build but somehow it seems like my character doesn’t even use rope lift.. despite having rope lift on page 2. My pala just charges left and right the whole time 🤣

[mystic crypt]

doesnt matter

when u use this build vs your normal whats the kph

[random slate]

KPH increases maybe 1-1.5k to around 10k+ vs with blast. But somehow my char doesn’t go upstairs at all anymore . And I can see drops on upper floors aren’t being picked up even with vac pets. Would presume if the mobs at upper floors drop fragments I wouldn’t pick it up

[opaque shell]

I also don’t go to top floors, but mpets are needed to loot thre

[unreal yacht]

the character will use ropelift regardless

once you have it in your V matrix

i recalled no ropelift inone of my alts in auto tho

lemt me test it again

oh LOL i have ropelift in skill preset..

but pala technically dont need. IF you have mpets. dont need.

[surreal token]

what does V1, V2, V3, V4 means?

[primal thunder]

Your V Skills in order from left to right on the crafting page

[surreal token]

thanks David

[hidden furnace]

does ayone have paladin node and skill wheel?

[surreal token]

Im a noob xD

I use gold leaves and powders from my other alts to rank up my main weapons so i end up like this xD

then after getting to Mythic, I suddenly noticed that I cant transfer it via storage anymore, it became solo self found xD I mean it became bound to the last character that upgrade it.

[opaque shell]

Skillwheel for AB, frag farm or bossing?

3rd page is just another skill node for useless skills

[hidden furnace]

have for bossing?

[opaque shell]

I use a different setup while I play on PC Client, but I use this on Mobile:

Revive + Stun on 2nd page. Manual buffing for DS4

[hidden furnace]

ty

[harsh mantle]

Yeah. If you're building sf gear for alts, fuse them so they're tradeable/swappable to that char

If you bought an emblem, that's when you use rank up stones, but you need to cut if you wanna give it to another char after ranking to mythic

And if you want to use cdd alts for necro attempts, it has to be a fused mythic, since each storage swap needs a cut if you wanna swap ranked-up mythics

[unreal yacht]

this is nearly identical to my setup

[surreal token]

thanks master

[surreal token]

dang i should aim for emblem mythic for that necro attempt

[harsh mantle]

Yeah, that either means locking it to one char with rank-up stones and funneling ancient crystal shards from events to them, or getting very lucky with emblem scrolls / the 1% fuse emblem chance once you hit mythic to be able to pass it around (very hard to get the correct emblem this way)

[surreal token]

Thanks Sho ill keep that in mind

[undone crescent]

#msm-feedback-qol message

[stiff bramble]

i understand where your thinking is at, but the echo bonded lines are very small % (15% and 13.5% of cap lines). our line count for solo is quite good and we're arguably the best solo class in the game.

[undone crescent]

Yeah that’s fair. If Echo is 60s duration / 120s cooldown, that’s around 50% uptime in a 10 minute boss.

So if the bonded effect is roughly 15% / 13.5% of cap lines during Echo, that averages closer to about 6–7% total damage difference, depending on skill uptime and what actually benefits.

So I agree it probably shouldn’t be framed as “Paladin is weak solo.” Paladin is strong. My point is more that Echo’s bond mechanic feels awkward in solo because part of the skill’s design doesn’t really exist without another player. A solo-mode bond would feel more like QOL than a major buff.

[uneven trench]

Just accept that paladin will be weaker in solo play as part of their class identity, it has been designed that way in maple pc too

[hidden furnace]

paladin legit has like 40 seconds of iframes for 1 min 👀

looks cool 👀

hella tuff👀

good lines and dps (not compared to archers )👀

is a good class that has remained at the top since beginning of the game 👀

while other classes rotate meta a lot

[uneven trench]

??? They were the lowest dps before their rework in 2022

[uneven trench]

20 seconds

For 2mins

[hidden furnace]

👀

[novel matrix]

In need of a skill wheel for AB, Bossing and whatever I should use for Dungeons menu. Maybe a node page setup as well and whatever else is good to know for Paladin

[opaque shell]

If u scroll up you find it

[novel matrix]

I see a post from you but it’s the node wheel not the skill wheel. Is it further than that?

[opaque shell]

this is for bossing

[opaque shell]

this is for farming frags in SP30

[reef prawn]

Do we also have ab page?😅

[reef prawn]

Nvm I found it scrolling up a little more. Ty

Assuming hyper passives are still good in pins?

[opaque shell]

Yeah we can equip everything now! Hyper still the same aye

[unreal yacht]

where did you get this info from?

Sacro is now 10 sec
The V skill is 10 sec
Guardian (IF YOU ARE SELFISH) is 5 sec

Origin = 10 sec (but heavy / long cooldown) so i am not going to include this in the standard rotation

[undone crescent]

Anyone else having issues echo/sacro ppl specifically in will/azazelle?

[unreal yacht]

no?

[undone crescent]

🤔 times I select and have to reselect a few times for user to get echo/sacro

[unreal yacht]

perhaps send the video to customer service and let them verify the issue. but they at times do not get the full picture T^T

[primal thunder]

O ya a while back my carry still died to CRA Vellum ground attack even tho I Echo+Sacro

Never bothered again after that

[uneven trench]

he is barely lvl200 he knows nothing about the class 😂

[static gazelle]

Hello 👋, I need honest reply, atm I main "blsh*t" Aran lvl 261. So am thinking now to main paladin is it good moves? Or maybe pick other worrier??

[unreal yacht]

up to you. recent update, Aran is still decent

[undone crescent]

I think it’s worth it, but I am biased. Not sure how much stronger pali is than Aran. But pali def has more support in runs. Depends on what you’re looking for.

[static gazelle]

Dps + more iframe 😅
Aran forget about it became worst now

[unreal yacht]

ok. then proceed with Paladin.

however, we can also pique your interest with Dark Knight

if you time his skills correctly. u get tons of iframe

[solemn patio]

Anyone having issue blast and ori have low dmg

[dire hare]

Hard to tell without seeing your gear and hexa mastery. This is training ground?