Paladin

[worthy oracle]

Do I kinda follow how we skill up on the PC version?

[nova mist]

Everything gets maxed so you’re good

[indigo robin]

If anyone's curious, this is pally V4 google translated

i just chucked a screenshot from a kmsm video into google translate but it mostly makes sense i think

[deft meteor]

Wow so some classes getting +1k lines and Pallys get nothing

[dire hare]

Everyone got buffed. Pally got balanced/nerf

🥲

[quiet herald]

lol are we reading the same patch notes, only nerf was take 1 line taken away from Blast and every other skill was increased

[dire hare]

I see a slight buff for solo content but otherwise I don't see any significant buff dmg wise. If I'm wrong please do correct me

[deft meteor]

Relatively speaking we were nerfed quite strongly

[mellow flame]

Time so switch class🫠

[deft meteor]

I just switched last month for some reason 🫣

[dire hare]

Unless u are whaling and looking to be top dps paladins are still high value in bossing. Most class support skills got nerfed. Solo res seems to remain untouched

[indigo robin]

Definitely not a nerf

I’m super weak f2p and even I notice a huge difference in DPS

[topaz laurel]

3min I got about 23k lines

[uneven trench]

people who say they got nerfed has no idea what they are talking about

[dire hare]

What's your updated boss wheel now? And nice mdc btw

[fallow parcel]

what your preset like?

[blissful sierra]

20 uses, 4.8k lines on V4??

Can someone clarify on V4 for mobbing, the shockwave activates with every attack? So 4 times for each use?

[blissful sierra]

Looking at this that’s what it seems like, each attack triggers a shockwave

[topaz laurel]

just have sacro and 3sec iframe together

the others I don't really use they're random

[shut bison]

What about noble demand?

I know technically we get some extra lines if we start echo with a stack of 3 mjolnir but putting it on a preset with blast seems so much easier and you only miss out on 2 mjolnir

But also who knows how many casts you lose by not paying perfect attention to the cooldown

[uneven trench]

i think it's better to save charges until ds4 activates

then dump your load

[fallow parcel]

i put together with mjolnir as preset

[blissful sierra]

Mjolnir is god tier for mobbing

[scenic warren]

Anyone figure out a good preset for mjolnir or leave it separate?

I have it with blast and weapon aura , feels like theres a delay when it gets to mjolnir and stacks doesnt add up

[iron pilot]

Here's 3 configurations that I tested.

(A) Blast + Mjolnir preset "set and forget"
(B) Separate Blast and Mjolnir. Blast > Mjolnir 1 stack > Blast and spread out 1 stack of Mjolnir
(C) Separate Blast and Mjolnir. Blast > Mjolnir spam 3 stacks > Blast until 3 stacks recovered, then spam Mjolnir again

Results over 1min30sec:

(A) Blast hit count 2067, dmg 45.32B. Mjolnir hit count 1478, dmg 35.61B.
(B) Blast hit count 2192, dmg 48.06B. Mjolnir hit count 1482, dmg 35.64B.
(C) Blast hit count 2203, dmg 48.44B. Mjolnir hit count 1479, dmg 35.75B.

TLDR:

• Adding Mjolnir in your attack preset WILL delay your Blast attacks
• To avoid DPS loss due to leaving Mjolnir at 3 stacks or "attack switching", spam Blast whenever you hit 2 stacks

[shut bison]

This is gas bro thank you

Also

🥲

[uneven trench]

need to account for boss def and ds4 too

[topaz laurel]

idk this shows pally closer to 21k but I've tested and gotten 23k

[shut bison]

This is lines/min right? I was thinking of doing my own test.

[topaz laurel]

for 3 min total

[shut bison]

Copy

[scenic warren]

Prioritize v3 or v4 if both arent maxed?

[dire hare]

Huh surprising to see several classes dps to be so low even with the buffs. ILM and DK in particular

[blissful sierra]

I have the same question, also considering extracting my V3 nodes to dump into V4 for better mobbing

[dire hare]

I'd reckon v4 is better for general f2p or low spenders.

Just keep opening nodes and levelling them as the nodes come in.

[blissful sierra]

Yeah seems like it, I kinda regret dumping everything into v3 but it was an impulse decision lol

[dire hare]

Not necessarily bad though. V3 is our primary dmg source and does come in hand in ab as well

[blissful sierra]

Yeah but V4 is god tier for mobbing which is mainly my focus, my Pala is pretty much a farmer

Although with the recent AF field nerfs I’m reconsidering things

[iron pilot]

I think it shouldn’t matter because both Mjolnir and Blast cap out at 15% ignore def (unless your Mjolnir node is not maxed out)

[iron pilot]

Thanks for testing this, I’ve seen the chart floating around too 😂

We don’t even know if that’s inclusive of echo’s clone damage…

[uneven trench]

What an idiotic statement. Of course it matters, or else people won’t bother to even equip ds4. You do know that ignore def stacks right? And that is why people use their burst skills when ds4 and shade split is active.

The fact that 2-3 stacks of mjolnir has more lines than blast in the same period of time makes it a burst skill as well

[blissful sierra]

Skill description betrays just how powerful mjolnir is

[iron pilot]

Buddy, you need to calm down LOL. Did you have a bad day at work or something? There's 1001 ways you could reply and you chose aggression🤷

I misunderstood your comment - please look back at it and tell me it's not vague...

Sure you could minmax and keep your Mjolnir stacks floating between 2-3 while DS4 is on cooldown, but good luck doing that in the heat of a boss fight while keeping track of divine shield proc + Damien orb duty + blocking duty + single ress. More likely than not it's gonna get parked at 3 stacks, in which case you're actively losing dps not using it

[dire hare]

Just curious do you leave v2 in pet now? With the new v2 buff the activation phase of its dmg is actually pretty strong. Not to mention its skill syncs with ds4 duration

[iron pilot]

Yeah, IIRC Echo (the player) also manuals V2

[dire hare]

I got the idea from him lol. But I don't like putting v2 and v4 together as it toggles a little wonky for me

[iron pilot]

Yeah V4 with anything in a preset is nasty because the delay kicks in when the “Mighty Mjolnir is not ready” message comes up at 0 stacks

I like @fallow parcel’s idea of Noble Demand + Mjolnir in a preset

[dire hare]

I still haven't seen the inherent value of noble demand. Not for some time at least. Is it that important?

[uneven trench]

i mean your post is obviously trying to maximize dps here. And for anyone who wants to maximize dps you will take burst timing windows into consideration.

If you want to be lazy of course you can lose dps by doing (A) Blast + Mjolnir preset "set and forget" as you yourself have shown. So what is the point of your post if you are not trying to maximize dps. It's not that hard to keep mjollnir stacks below 3 at all times, you dont have to line up exactly 3 stacks when ds4 activates, 2 is fine as well. I am saying this with consideration of chaotic boss mechanics + keeping track of res cooldown.

ds4 lasts 14 seconds so you have time for the 3rd/4th stack to come online as well

[iron pilot]

Thank you for elaborating - yes, the intent of the original test was just to see how mjolnir could be integrated into our attack cycle to produce the best possible dps

We are on the same page here. Therefore you could have said.. “(B) is good, use 1 stack of Mjolnir to keep stacks below 3, then to optimise damage output spam all stacks during burst window” and I completely agree!

[iron pilot]

It’s useful especially for Damien, where half the team on “shrine duty” likely have fair trade turned off, so they are less likely to crit (you cannot take the damage ticks from fair trade to complete the altar)

This varies amongst teams of course, some players prefer to toggle fair trade on/off when doing shrine 👌

[dire hare]

Ah I guessed as much. Does this apply for lucid? Atm my preset is v2, v4, noble and v4. Don't know if it is good or not

[uneven trench]

there is now a bug where fair trade turns on automatically even though you turned it off and it annoys me

[iron pilot]

Nah lucid doesn’t have this requirement. I haven’t tested your preset yet, but I’d imagine you’d lose some dps if you let your Mjolnir stacks go to 3 and still need to cycle through noble demand + V2 (if the timing unfortunately lines up for you this way)

[uneven trench]

noble is not needed for lucid unless you have teamates without fairtrade and cannot hit 100% crit

[dire hare]

What about lotus?

[uneven trench]

same

[scenic warren]

V2 manual is new to me lol, always been on pet

[shut bison]

Dude same. I’m out of space on my buff preset. I think I might put echo on pet and every time it procs I’ll use epic adventure, hammers, maple goddess, and weapon aura. Then when ds4 comes up push out all 3 mjolnir and v3

[uneven trench]

i would put epic adventure on pet and put echo in your buff preset

since it's a party buff which you can get from other party members anyway

[shut bison]

Oh good point. Ty

[blissful sierra]

Mjolnir slaps

[blissful sierra]

If you 1 hit with it, 1 hammer can kill about 20 mobs

1 Mjolnir use

[dire hare]

First world problems with pala v2 and v4: not enough mobs

Fr though, my char has been seen standing around cause he ran out of mobs to kill

[topaz laurel]

Our v4 is too fun

[blissful sierra]

Considering switching my main to Paladin cause V4 is so good

[topaz laurel]

do it pally dps go crazy

[sleek wing]

Can anyone show the proper skill wheel now for AB after V4 out thanks 🙌🏻🙏🏻

[uneven trench]

any combination of charge, divine charge, heavens hammer, smite shield, v4

[dire hare]

Smite shield can consider removing if mobs are clearing out too fast. I run out of spinning hammers cause I don't have a chance to use divine charge

[iron pilot]

Fr hidden buff to edge of space

[pastel kettle]

gg

[dire hare]

@topaz laurel said this test isn't 100% conclusive, he tested 23k on pallys

[pastel kettle]

[uneven trench]

new burst windows are in intervals of 2mins anyways no point doing 3min tests

[pastel kettle]

let other ppl do what they wan

we just popcorn

[true current]

just a question, can you target a party member with divine echo or its just target randomly?

[topaz laurel]

you click on party members name on the left side of the screen once you're in the boss room

if you don't choose then it's random

[true current]

thank you, will try it

[blissful sierra]

When I use mighty mjolnir while echo is active does it also activate at echo persons location like blast and heavens hammer do

[uneven trench]

echo cannot replicate v skills for your partner

no v3 no v2 no v4

[blissful sierra]

Oh damn but still doubles the lines tho right

[uneven trench]

yeah you get double not quadruple

[blissful sierra]

Aight, still crazy OP

V4 is super satisfying to watch

[uneven trench]

and weapon aura got nerfed to not be able to do double lines during echo

[blissful sierra]

Ouch

[dire hare]

So with this slight nerf what's the priority in terms of slot enhancement?

[uneven trench]

still mostly the same you probably wanna prioritise v3 and v1, followed by v4 and v2, then common v4, then common v3 and common v1, then common v2

[fallow parcel]

sorry can you enlighten me what is common V1 to V4? thank you

[blissful sierra]

V4 gains 5% for every level right? Does anyone have maxed V4 stats?

[uneven trench]

Common v1 weapon aura
Common v2 blitz shield
Common v3 impenetrable skin
Common v4 maple world goddess blessing

[sly ocean]

This is your AB wheel?! You don’t use rush also in AB?

[dire hare]

Rush doesn't make sense in ab. If you see your char you move around plenty with v2 and v4 clearing.

[pastel kettle]

rush only make sense in sf194

[astral widget]

Sorry new here

Anyone knows which V to max first? Echo?

[pastel kettle]

v1 v3 v2/4

[blissful sierra]

V4 might be better over V2

[pastel kettle]

whichever that u get first haha

[blissful sierra]

I’m confused myself on if I should main DW or Pala.. which one are you maining

[pastel kettle]

i playing pala

easier to go damien

LOL

whichever brings me to the next boss faster

im only 18.3m mdc now

still exalting other stuff

[uneven trench]

what is your damien team requirement

[pastel kettle]

no requirement first

because it just my ark team ppl going tgt

we practice

[uneven trench]

oh

[pastel kettle]

yeah mdc wise some already hit the requirement

is just the hp 180k not everyone reached

so we just continue to exalt stuff first

and wait probably a 2-3months later we start practicing first

[astral widget]

Mjolnir need to manual press?

Or should be in preset

[pastel kettle]

i manual press not too sure about others

since i can see the counts

[proven arrow]

Manual will be better for higher dps

Preset will lower down your dps significantly.

[uneven sluice]

Hi new pala here. Is there any changes to the recommended perfect trio nodes?

or rather what should be the boost node setup apart from blast, divine mark, final atk. Do i need to also get boost nodes for the other skills?

[wind skiff]

no you do not

[stuck geode]

Hi .. One question pala is better class ? That NL ?

[worthy siren]

Better in terms of ? There are a lot of variables

[stray bane]

if you want a straightforward answer under the context of dmg, no Paladin cannot win a NL. NL >>> Paladin in terms of damage now.

[pastel kettle]

i think the question should be asked with a provided context, if we know your situation instead of a generic what class is better since any class can be OP with absolab lv60 full set

u got money all class = same

[worthy siren]

^

[pastel kettle]

or just make every class to 200

problem solve

thats wad im doing

i just level whoever i wan to play as high as i want lol

now im doing hero class atm

i have 16 lvl200s soon

[languid anvil]

Is there any resource to see all v skills and their stats when leveling?

And other than trash boost nodes after upgrade/special nodes, any skills I should extract instead of use?

[blissful sierra]

Check YouTube for Moonbean videos, there should be a video that covers what you need

[bold bison]

Just wondering with experience node, should I aim to upgrade tri core first, or v skills? 😅

[dire hare]

Don't ever use exp nodes on tri core. It's not even recommended to use it on v skills, keep and store so you can use it on red nodestone. But if u really want to, boost your v1 first.

[bold bison]

Oh? Red node stone?

[dire hare]

From the new boss Will.

[uneven trench]

normal nodes are so cheap now that exp nodes should be reserved for will node

[bold bison]

Ah… okay… haven reach the level for WILL node 😭😭

[tame thunder]

Most of the exp nodes we get have expiry times attached to them, and chances are you won't be Will ready for a looooong time. I would use them on your vskills like others have said.

[uneven trench]

they dont

you just open them and keep them in v skill

[tame thunder]

Aaah I always assumed they expired like the special nodes! Good to know, ty!

[uneven trench]

just keep them like this

[tame thunder]

I'd be so tempted to use those, how do you resist? Hahaha

[uneven trench]

lock them up

[blissful sierra]

Agree on this, just use it on your V skills

[blissful sierra]

Yup with me it’s like gone in 10 seconds, pumped it all on V4 for better mobbing

[tame thunder]

I think if you’re f2p or even a fresh 200 it’s totally fine. You won’t be touching Will for so long and you’d be way better served by pumping your vskills.
Even with node prices so low it’s still not cheap to max stuff out. But if the prices keep falling maybe that changes.

[uneven trench]

exp nodes are 270m, it's even more expensive than normal nodes

oh right event shop has free 3 exp nodes so i guess that's fine to use, but i wouldnt recommend otherwise

[tame thunder]

Yeah we're talking about like the event ones you get for free

I didn't even know you could buy the exp nodes

[uneven trench]

there is an event called surprise shop that you can buy exp nodes for 270m

[elder sable]

Is there a difference between sword and hammer ?

[nova mist]

No but skills are hammer visuals only

[uneven trench]

hammer can share with demon slayer, sword can share with mihile next time

[nova pilot]

Anyone have a burst order list?

[uneven trench]

Echo/aura/hero/v2 -> use v4 once -> blast until ds4 activates -> v3 -> use up all v4 charges -> continue blast

[nova pilot]

Thanks!!

I assume divine charge is mainly for mobbing then?

[shut bison]

Correct

[nova pilot]

Got it thanks for the clarification!

About to hit 200 but enjoying pally so far

[blissful sierra]

You’re gonna love V4

[sudden mantle]

Does this look ok so far? About to reach 210

[uneven trench]

blitz shield is mostly useless, you can drop it if you dont have enough slots

you need rope lift for farming

put all your bonus points into divine echo

perfect trio is blast divine judgement final atk

craft v3 and v2

[sudden mantle]

Isnt blitzshield v2?

Havent been able to get perfect trio yet

[uneven trench]

it's common v2, v2 is Hammer of righteousness

[bold bison]

can I check what's ds4?/

[uneven trench]

defense smash 4, it's under special node

expires every week

so extract it before it expires

[bold bison]

Oh..

thanks for the info

[quiet herald]

anyone have perfect trios for pally? my pally alt is gonna be lv200 soon and would like to have an idea...

Is it blast/final atk/hyper for first trio? is there a second trio?

[shut bison]

Blast, Final attack, Divine Judgement/Mark

For training its divine charge, divine judgement/mark, heavens hammer

[quiet herald]

there is no hyper in the trio?

[uneven trench]

the hyper is a stun, not a dps skill

realistically you dont even need a trio

blast and divine judgement is enough

final attack accounts for less than 2% of your total damage output when maxed out

[quiet herald]

oh ok

[uneven trench]

yeah we only include it since it is free passive damage

[quiet herald]

and u use divine charge for training right? instead of blast?

[shut bison]

Yep

[pastel kettle]

🫰

@steep lion

[steep lion]

another one

https://tenor.com/view/duck-knife-gif-22250364

[kindred smelt]

I am a new paladin main and honestly, any tips or anything you could let me know or give me about paladin would be great I'm still genuinely new to Maplestory m an i only know the basics from youtube and such about how he is a good survivability and he is really good in defense stats but honestly thats really all i know about him so if it isnt to much i really need help

[weak prairie]

Hello everyone! Just hit 200 and came here to seek guidance for v matrix. So much info! Is there anywhere where this info is condensed onto one page?

Or rather, one guide?

[dire hare]

see the pinned messages for the v skills

[weak prairie]

Thank you!

[calm spade]

Yo guys

What is recommended to have of emblems on equip? Like out off all gear and wep, how many should be BA and how many critdmg

[calm spade]

And what is the bis before lionhear? Like gear

[vale oar]

Any tips on ab wheel?

[bold bison]

@vale oar You can follow something like this

[uneven trench]

this was before v4

gotta add in v4

[vale oar]

Ty. Well its a burner for me 🙂

[dire hare]

Anyone else feel ab perfect trio is redundant now? V2 and V4 do much more and HH actually actively hurts V2

[uneven trench]

yeah i extracted my ab trio LMAO

[shut bison]

Wdym it actively hurts V2

If you’re not one shotting then it’s not worth extracting the trio

[dire hare]

I am 1 shoting but the constant HH seems to cause my v2 to time out.

[shut bison]

Ahhhhh I see. What map? That means your character doesn’t use a divine charge in less than 30 second increments which is wild.

[dire hare]

Af510. V2 keeps me constantly moving and v4 makes my clears the map. I only use divine to keep v2 up. Just wondering if I might need ab trio in higher af, otherwise I might extract it like Mushroom

[shut bison]

The higher maps are bigger so I don’t think you’ll be map clearing as easily. I certainly wasn’t.

[uneven trench]

probably happens when you are in a 6 man party with multiple classes which clear the map too well haha

[wicked flower]

Hi!! I need some help, Which one is the skill wheel of the pali and the hypers?

Skill wheel pre 200

[golden stirrup]

Random updates oo

[latent palm]

Why do paladins prefer Divine charge at all? it looks like a wrose version of Blast in every way

Isnt it better to get 3 Blast Hypers, and save the remaining 2 for Heaven Hammer

[tame thunder]

Divine charge is only used for training. It hits more targets than blast does, so if you're one shotting everything anyways then obviously better to use the one that hits more enemies.

For hypers 3 blast is really the important thing, for the other 2 you can do whatever you want tbh.

[uneven trench]

divine charge triggers a passive aoe effect for every 4 hits which kills everything around you too

divine charge always yields more kills than blast

[latent palm]

always? I thought Blast does more damage to fewer targets, so wouldnt it depend on hitting the threshold of damage first? I'm in sf268 and struggle to 1 shot the mobs already as is, would charge still be better there?

[uneven trench]

Well I guess if you have trouble killing mobs maybe blast can help you survive better by killing some mobs before you get surrounded, though you are essentially just leeching anyways

[latent palm]

Not leeching, since I can 2 shot mobs pretty well. The problem with not being able to 1 shot is that I have a small chance of dying, approx once every 20-30 minutes or so.

my hp is only 48k and I dont want to set 90% sicne it guzzles my pots

[opaque shell]

Just use blast until u are strong enough to use divine charge (1shot)

I did the same and u can keep pots at 70% too. My Paladin is currently 198 at 180/194SF

[uneven trench]

Yeah just use blast until you have no problems with survivability

[blissful sierra]

I have a 208 DW and a 211 Pala and I’m unable to decide which one I want to main, I’ve maxed boost nodes on both and have around the same gear on both but still not able to figure out which one I wanna main

[uneven trench]

Well paladin is easier to play

For bossing

[latent palm]

Muspell gloves ok vs Grand agares for pally?

[opaque shell]

Depends on if you’re going necro route or inherit route. I would advice critical damage for inherit. Necro will reset and then u can choose CD

[latent palm]

Cd = muspell?

[opaque shell]

Halpas

[latent palm]

What does “necro will reset and then u will choose cd” mean ?

Like it doesnt matter muspell or halpas , when i necro I can choose the stat?

[uneven trench]

yes it resets upon a successful necro or aboslab

[latent palm]

Ok

So doesnt matter anyways

Long term

Thanks

[opaque shell]

I would buy exp gear and then try necro it

[latent palm]

ooh very smart

so why everyone so focused on jaihin mythic

why not just get utgard mythic weapon

is the thought that mythic 30 -> necro 40 is such a long jounery it would be months where you can benefit from CD?

but then arguably until necro ancient 40 u arent doing much dmg anyways so exp seems good

[uneven trench]

because exp gear doesnt matter below ancients

[latent palm]

it matters

for exp

the thought is, you will get ancient before you get to lvl 250 anyways ? perhaps that exp will matter

also depending on what sort of new level gated features nexon adds

[uneven trench]

ok good luck with your mythic exp set

i am sure it will accelerate you to lvl250 in no time

[latent palm]

Not sure why the sarcasm there, I'm relatively new and tryingto understand the game. You said you can swap to cd for necro anyways, - your power spike is far greater for necro then for cd type vs exp type , and it also comes down to cost too, because a jaihin can be exponentially more expensive then a utgard.

My point wasn't to get to lvl250 first, it was that how much is it worth the extra effort/cost to find the right type vs being more cost/exp effective and rushing to necro

I thought it was a fair question

[uneven trench]

i already told you that exp set is only worth to get if they are inherit utgard and above

[latent palm]

inherit=ancient not necro ?

or u mean like mythic

[uneven trench]

yes

[latent palm]

ok

got it

[opaque shell]

Most top players have an exp set for grinding and then another set for bossing

CD (halpas) is always BiS

Emblems is like a mixture of CD and BA

[latent palm]

I just hit lvl 200 and bought like over 100-200 nodes and getting my arcane matrix

curious if theres any comprehensive guide on order of skills to prioritize, since I can craft a few

I already crafted rope lift, what about any of the other advanced skills / etc

I just go for something like echomsm?

[uneven trench]

perfect trio nodes should be fairly easy to max out

v skill is harder to max, usually you will just level up whatever node you get, you can prioritize divine echo > grand guardian > mighty mjollnir > hammer of the righteous > impenetrable skin > weapon aura > maple world. If you need more node points just extract all the blitz shield nodes you get, it's pretty meh.

[uneven trench]

you can follow him as a guideline but his character is already lvl250+ with all the slots unlocked

[latent palm]

Thanks

Am I safe to fodder everything else ?

Or hold off

For instance any trios without final attack

Or any unneeded epics like the rune buff ones

[uneven trench]

People usually level up the trash boost nodes before extracting them for more value.

You can extract blitz shield and special nodes as soon as you get them, for now.

[latent palm]

why blitz shield so bad?

and ok, i'll extract my special nodes

how am i doin so far

[uneven trench]

Not bad but your trio is wrong

You want at least blast + divine judgement

[latent palm]

Yeah i think you are right, I dont remember finding one or it was just low leveled compared to this. idk if 2/3 at higher lvl (6) is better or worse then 3/3 lvl 2

i would image i take the one that gives me raw Final Atk and Smash, given that is what i use most of the time

also @uneven trench why extract all special nodes. they all trash?

i worry nexon will rebalance those nodes and i'm screwed

maybe best to keep 1 copy?

[uneven trench]

The only ones I keep is defense smash 4 and the party exp ones.

Defense smash 4 is only important for doing bosses that are harder than ark.

The special nodes all expires in one week anyway, remember to extract them right before they expire

[latent palm]

oh I didnt even know that, thanks for the tip

[latent palm]

How are all the paladins doing on this fine evening?

[topaz laurel]

Feeling blessed

[opaque shell]

Just got necro hammer, so blessed as well haha

[latent palm]

Nice , whats the next big project?

[opaque shell]

Getting nodes, hypers and exalting gear. I rerolled almost 2 weeks ago from NW

So starting from scratch, enough to do haha

[uneven trench]

perfect time to roll more ied flames

[topaz laurel]

[signal kiln]

@latent palm

[latent palm]

hi

@signal kiln oh hey u here too

[tight current]

hi guys are my nodes okay? looking for guidance here

[blissful sierra]

Looks good to me so far

[tight current]

would it be better if i moved both the trinodes to the lv 5 slots?

[blissful sierra]

Both ways are fine in my opinion but probably would do a lot more damage with the level 5 slots on the boost nodes

[latent palm]

Swap advanced holy symbol for tri node when farmin

[uneven trench]

V skill is more important once tri nodes are above lvl40

[blissful sierra]

I never bothered leveling it, if your gear is good enough you don’t need to

Also, V4 is just god tier for mobbing

[blissful sierra]

I’m still having such trouble deciding between the two, Pala feels like it’s just so much stronger much easily. Gonna do a DPS test tonight and see which one comes out on top

[uneven trench]

What content are you doing which dps becomes a consideration

[latent palm]

https://tenor.com/view/job-love-sad-gif-5860304

imo i went with pally since all the v skills syngerize together. you can cast ur hammers, divine echo, then GG

Really good burst

for vskills you go Perfect trio (Blast, Divine Mark, Final) to 40 combined (60 ideal) then go V1/V3 max before leveling the others Is whats recommended I think.
That is big damage spike for paly

best to not extract any node before it hits lvl 20/25

[blissful sierra]

The main thing I’m feeling is so awesome with pally is that you’re practically invincible if you time all the iframes right

[latent palm]

i just learned i had 3 iframes lmao

i only knew about sacrosanctity

Then the 2nd one

and then resurraction also just learned an hour ago

op class

[blissful sierra]

Have you played DW

[weak prairie]

Need some advice about where I go from here?

Lvl 204, lvl 38 mythic jaihin with 2 necro fails RIP

7/7 exaltation btw

I also have a ton of left over boost nodes. Do I keep for end game? Or do I extract and sell back on TS?

[latent palm]

unlock all the skill nodes , keep leveling your perfect trio, get all the V1/2/3 skills , craft rope lift/ advanced holy symbol for farming,

i would also keep a 3rd Trio with Divine mark primary since you can add it to 60 later

ideally extract nodes only after lvl 25, otherwise can extract at lvl 20 for good boost extraction

[mystic kraken]

yeah i prefer get 3 trios and use my slot enchantment on vskills

[mystic kraken]

.

[mystic kraken]

If you don't have perfect trios, you can use Blast+Divine judgment. The final atk damage is very small, but it's always good to have for a little more damage.

[mystic kraken]

☝🏽☝🏽

I always extract the blitz shield too 🤣

[dire hare]

Old blitz was actually decent. No idea wtf they were thinking making it the way it is now.

[blissful sierra]

What did it used to do

[uneven trench]

now it only last 3 seconds

[mystic kraken]

yeah now it's like the impenetrable skin

🤣

[latent palm]

people were asking for more node fragments, nexon listened

[mystic kraken]

It would stay active until you took damage, then it would absorb the damage and explode.

Now you use the skill and have up to 3s to absorb the damage, in this case after activating you have to receive the damage within 3 seconds to be able to absorb and explode.

[keen seal]

I just hit lv200.
can anyone give some advice what are the important and most prioritize nodes to be focused on?

[blissful sierra]

Blast, divine judgement, and people say final attack but I chose to skip that one

[keen seal]

what about sancro?

[blissful sierra]

Sancro doesn’t have a node..

[latent palm]

Dont skip final attack . Max echo and grand guardian asap

[uneven trench]

divine echo

[keen seal]

so divine echo final atk?

[latent palm]

1. get all your v skills
2. max tri nodes
3. max v1 first then v3

2/3 can be done in order of preference

[keen seal]

what are the tri nodes?

[latent palm]

For us its : final attack, smash, divine mark

The triplet boost nodes

Make sure you have 2-3 copies , each with a different left side (primary skill)

[keen seal]

oh okay, noted

[mystic kraken]

First trio: Blast/final atk/Divine judgment(Mark)
Second trio; Divine judgment(Mark)/Blast/final atk
third trio: final atk/Blast/Divine judgment(Mark)

the order from the 2nd skill onwards can change, for example the first trio can be either Blast/final atk/Divine Judgment or Blast/Divine judgment/final atk

the same for the other trios

actually for some reason the final atk doesn't do much damage, so you can just use Blast/Divine judgment(Mark)/random until you get the perfect trio (Blast/Divine judgment/final atk)

The final atk damage is low, but it's still good damage, it's like ADI hyper status.

[stuck geode]

Hi ,WA vs Pala ..who is win?

[opaque shell]

NW

[latent palm]

paladin by far, once you get later into the game it will be all centered around bossing. Some people will have spent 100s, others 1000s, maybe even more, but as paladin you will always have a vital role in any team comp , as echo/sancro is incredibly powerful. (echo binds yourselft to anyone you choose and gives big damage boost to final damage and clones some skills too, sancro gives you and target 30 second invulnerability)

With some decent funding paladin actually can top the charts in damage too since they have insane burst. Also very bulky.

like wind archer not much support, you'll just be doing DPS, buit most teams will NEED/WANT support like Bishop, Pally, Sia, Phantom

NL is piggie class

[orchid whale]

Sia ftw

[latent palm]

Sia got nerfed a bunch but yeah the hourglass skill is nice

for lotuis

[pine kraken]

There are no winners in this game

[latent palm]

Nexon wins

[arctic swan]

Pala

[bold bison]

can I ask for Echo, when I buff bonded member, how much % it increase?

[latent palm]

you can read the skill it should say it

it depends on the level

iirc like 20-35% final damage?

[balmy swift]

What’s the perfect tri nodes on Paladin?

[blissful sierra]

Blast divine judgment final attack

[balmy swift]

Ty for tagging

[coral prism]

Doesn't this make the skill level 90 instead of 60 when maxed?

[opaque shell]

I believe 60 is max tho

[mystic kraken]

no, lvl 20 each trio. save slot enchantment for vskills

• slot enchancement in skills = more ignore Def

also the Max LV in trio is 25

[sonic gulch]

Hi thr, new to paladin. Just wanna to ask any diff choosing between blunt or sword as weapon?

[rapid ocean]

No difference

[sonic gulch]

The only reason blunt is more expensive is bcz can share among other jobs?

[latent palm]

yes with demon slayer

[novel matrix]

Starting out, should I just auto assign SP or is there a leveling build I could follow?

[opaque shell]

Doesn’t really matter before hyper skills imo

U level fast enough to max everything asap

[novel matrix]

Gotcha! What about skills on the skill bar, does that matter as I’m lvling? I noticed even tho i can auto assign sp it doesn’t automatically add new skills to my bar

[novel matrix]

Just hit 100 on Paladin, should I just work on the main quests now?

[latent palm]

no, do 4/6 dailies and all mini hunts

100-110: Guild CHeckin, Elite Dungeon, Daily Dungeon, Netts + all mini dungeon hunt ticekts
110-120 : replace netts with Evolution system + all mini dungeon hunt ticekts

should only take around 5-8 days worth of checkins

[novel matrix]

I’m guessing for Guild Checkin I’d need to be in a guild? And for the others, I noticed I believe I still have some free entries, guess I should use all free entries everyday?

[latent palm]

u can do explorer guild for now if you want or look for one that might take a while . yes free entries expire anyways

[novel matrix]

Hopping back to this, 4/6 so don’t do the Hunt Monsters in Star Force Field but do Guild Check-in, Daily, Elite, Mini and then I’m guessing there is one more I don’t need to do that’s a daily

[latent palm]

netts if below 110, evolution if above

and then 130 you replace with dimensional invasion

[novel matrix]

Ah gotcha so technically 5/6 then daily

After the daily stuff I guess I could work on the main story then

[opaque shell]

I save the main story quests for when I am higher level, so I get more exp %

[sonic gulch]

Any guide can follow for hyper skills ?

[bold bison]

just wonder which hyper stats should I be pumping

[uneven trench]

exp pexp buff duration

[bold bison]

if it's for bossing?

[worthy siren]

FDI PDI ADI MDC(only if you are capping) in this order

[topaz laurel]

anyone have 6th job description?

[uneven trench]

https://i.redd.it/rwdk4yz1ap7b1.gif

[dire hare]

6th job is not using nodes right?

[sonic gulch]

divine charge Or final attack for trio

Blast + Judgement + Divine Charge
Or

Blast + Judgement + Final Attack

[uneven trench]

divine charge is useless in bossing

[sonic gulch]

AB?

[uneven trench]

Have a bossing trio and a AB trio

[opaque shell]

In have 2x trio’s with Blast, Judgement and FA

Dont use trio’s for AB tbh

[latent palm]

? you only need a single trio :
Blast - Divine Mark - Final attack

No neeed to swap between training and bossing wat, Divine mark and FInal attack benefits both blast and charge (used for farming)

IMO its not worth creating 2 sets of trios just so you can have a divine charge

[uneven trench]

Thanks for the tip!

I am just a lvl 120 paladin

I am struggling to mob in sf80

Anyways AB trios only matters if you are a completionist

[uneven trench]

If you consider FA to benefit farming you have completely lost all credibility

If you use Blast for AB you have completely lost all credibility

[latent palm]

Reading is difficult, I literally mention charge is useful for farming. no one using Blast to AB.
Reading is difficult, FInal attack benefits both BLast and Charge and thats a fact

I'm farming here with no issues and 350% exp and can 1 shot most mobs ?

Pretty rude to call someone out for losing all credibility

[latent palm]

read this

[latent palm]

Lvl 120 paladin with a lvl 220 mouth xd

[uneven trench]

I don’t use trios for AB LOL

[latent palm]

you currently 120 right?

should only take you a few days to 150

gogogo

[uneven trench]

Oh right sorry I am a lvl69 DK

[latent palm]

?

make up your mind

[uneven trench]

I am not a paladin

[latent palm]

xD

[uneven trench]

I am new to the game

[uneven trench]

Can you show me your AB wheel

[latent palm]

Sir you should know this is not the right place for that discussion

[calm egret]

Divine charge is only better if you one shot ? Or just straight better?

For ab

[uneven trench]

better

[turbid gulch]

Hello There!
as a soon to bee lvl 200, Im wondering what would be the top skills and trios for mobbing? since im not into bossing atm due eqioment.
so I need to boost my mobbing so eventually start bossing.

any tips would be much apprecitted 😄 thanks!

[turbid gulch]

why is that?

[latent palm]

Larger hit box

[turbid gulch]

yes, I was using blast.. just did a test looks good, ty

[undone crescent]

Yup I do this. See creating other trios as a waste.

[turbid gulch]

the bottom three are actually the ones needed for mobbing right? thats why you can swap them when bossing.

[uneven trench]

They are not “needed” but yes you will swap them out during bossing

If you already one shot everything with divine charge without the mobbing nodes you can just take them out and extract

[wooden tiger]

Hey all, new to the game, have a 153 paladin and I'm pretty overwhelmed with all the things. Anyone have a newbie friendly build guide for both bossing and mobbing that they use? not super sure about the best way to allocate my hyper skill passives and which skills to be using. thanks 🤙

[empty lark]

Currently lvl 153 which skills should I learn for the hyper sp

[heavy chasm]

focus on getting to level 200 first. nothing matters at 153. alot of core skills and v skills are unlocked at 200

as for Hyperskill, https://discordapp.com/channels/413046906638565395/709573965747847260/1240054647184429127

[heavy chasm]

@wooden tiger @empty lark

[wooden tiger]

@heavy chasm thank you 🙂

[balmy frigate]

👀

dennab

[empty lark]

What hyper stats should I focus on? Currently lvl 187

[dire hare]

Now that legend/mythic flames have def ignore, is it safe to say purple jewel set isn't optimal for bossing?

[balmy frigate]

@shadow wadi

[uneven trench]

Always Blue

[balmy frigate]

aey

[dire hare]

Ty

[blissful sierra]

https://tenor.com/view/silicon-valley-silicon-valley-always-blue-always-gif-25731975

[gilded kindle]

Anyone have a screen shot of ab skill wheel?

[empty lark]

What should I focus on for my hyper stats?

[empty lark]

@uneven trench

[uneven trench]

Final dmg, additional damage, max damage, phy dmg

[empty lark]

Can I see the V1-V4 nodes I just hit lvl 200

[empty lark]

@uneven trench

[opaque shell]

@empty lark

[empty lark]

Thank you!

[opaque shell]

Prioritise V1 (Echo) first, then I would level up V3 (Grand Guardian) then V4 (Mighty Mjolnir). At last V2 (Hammer or Righteous)

It’s V1 - V4 in order from left to right btw

[empty lark]

Oh everything already in order in the ss

@opaque shell

[opaque shell]

Yes! I had a hard time remembering the order when I rerolled from NW haha.

[empty lark]

The rest of the slots I can put whatever right

@opaque shell

Can I see your ab wheel also

Does it matter the order of the trio nodes? Or as long as all three skills are there?

[opaque shell]

This is the perfect trio

I don’t use trio’s for AF/SF

This I use for bossing

And below for AF/SF

Don’t use charge for AB btw. And if u are not strong then use Blast for AF/SF. @empty lark

[glass sluice]

is there a pre 200 auto battle skill set up?

[balmy frigate]

yes

spam hammer skill

[heavy chasm]

preset a Divine Charge + Heavens Hammer and you're golden

oh and the level 1 Leap attack, that is needed as Paladin can't jump

[glass sluice]

i dont think ive seen the ab ai use that jump skill

[royal harness]

@glass sluice what is your current level?

[glass sluice]

i just started playing msm im only like 112

[royal harness]

Ahh

I can teach u

I lil bit

A lil bit

So since U don't have level 170 yet

[uneven trench]

Doesn’t work in AB

[royal harness]

Ye

I recommend U just use blast and heaven hammer for ab

[uneven trench]

Divine charge if you have the damage

[royal harness]

It's good enough until U get to level 200 where you unlock v skills which will massively help U

[glass sluice]

i see

i have to do so much research about jewel and what not

[royal harness]

Tbh they prob have the DPS until like post 170 since this event makes it so easy to level up till U hit 200

[glass sluice]

[royal harness]

Jewel very easy tbh

Just invest in the blue gem

Phy dmg increase%

Go for s tier

All 5

For dmg

After that invest in the yellow jewel

Get 5 s tier exp increase jewels

[glass sluice]

oh liddat only?

[royal harness]

Ye

Once U hit 210

Or maybe earlier I'm not too sure

[glass sluice]

eq leh?

[royal harness]

Start to focus on ss and sss tier gems

[royal harness]

Eq?

[glass sluice]

equipments

just max level ?

[royal harness]

Hmm

[glass sluice]

do i have to touch the sf

[royal harness]

Max level it

[royal harness]

Absolutely

Sf helps U afk in better areas

Strive for sf 17 (best if 18) without using your shield scrolls

Only use meso reduction

[glass sluice]

on the event gear?

[royal harness]

Ye

Because the event gear is meant to be your main stuff

For a while

Even I'm still using them and I hit level 200

If U play the game well even as a f2p with this event U can hit 200 very fast

[heavy chasm]

ah ye my bad i didn't see the "auto battle", was thinking generic skill wheel to progress

[heavy chasm]

you can fuse the gears to get rid of the (E). also a chance of getting emblem

[royal harness]

Would it be more worth to rank up? I mean emblem u can get over time

I am an f2p and this is my progress after 10 days of playing only

Also all the nodestones they give via progression is so good 🙂

[heavy chasm]

personally i fuse first then rank up, so i can try to get to SF18 again at Legendary rank

[royal harness]

The only bad thing is my goofy ahh secondary weapon

[heavy chasm]

also, slightly cheaper to fix if it breaks

ranking up a event equipment does not make it tradable iirc, it only removed the E, but still 0 cuts

[royal harness]

I mean for me at least I ranked up most of my equipment once they hit sf 17

[royal harness]

Ye

I feel like ranking up removes randomness and adds consistency

[heavy chasm]

yea thats why i fuse first, on the off chance nexon bless an emblem, can sell it

[royal harness]

But then again totally up to each person because if they want to fuse them fuse

Then

[royal harness]

So true lol

[glass sluice]

im hearing all of this

[royal harness]

Lol

[glass sluice]

and im confused

[royal harness]

It's totally up to you

U can choose to get one unique equipment to SF 18

[heavy chasm]

don't worry, just level everything to max level

then slowly increase SF

[royal harness]

Then choose to fuse (more luck less consistency) or rank up (less luck more consistency)

[heavy chasm]

once at 17 or 18

come back and ask around

[royal harness]

Ye

I'm lucky enough to get tips from echo msm ngl XD

Now my only problem is my defence and hp

[heavy chasm]

that emblem looking mighty delicious

[royal harness]

Why am I taking 20k dmg from one mob in af 30:((((((

[royal harness]

That was from the 8% one lol

The free one

[heavy chasm]

but this convo should be in https://discordapp.com/channels/413046906638565395/709573965747847260 or https://discordapp.com/channels/413046906638565395/413046906638565397

[royal harness]

Fair fair

But he also paly so maybe he thought about chatting here who knows lol

[blissful sierra]

??? That move can’t be used during AB

[heavy chasm]

yes, i realised my mistake. https://discordapp.com/channels/413046906638565395/1059990734981308436/1325107478194557008

[glass sluice]

what is the skill wheel for bossing pre 200

[quick lion]

Basically the same thing as AB, but add on Sancro, res and heal, and replace Charge with Blast.

None of the big difference makers that really complicate things come in until V-skills.

I believe the most “complicated” thing that I had was a preset for hammer, crit break and Blast. Only time I had to let go of that was to stun or Sancro if it was a slow kill. Most of the bosses just get ripped in groups before you get more than a couple of blasts off anyway.

[royal harness]

Would stun be good for pre 200 since paladin without all the vskills quite weak due to lack of buffs to first

[glass sluice]

what are the link skills to use?

[royal harness]

Get everything but magic attack

Basically every character but mages lol

[glass sluice]

oki

[upbeat sphinx]

I believe sia has final dmg for link skill

[royal harness]

And what worked for me is that the first 5 slots of nodestones i only used the skills no boost no special nodes

[quick lion]

I kept Smite on wheel for both boss and AB pretty much as soon as I got it.
While it’s not much of a dps skill, it’s a solid screen wiper in SF and EoS, and it was the difference maker more than once in my lowbie groups, stunning all of Horntail’s parts out for a while when we didn’t have a carry.

[balmy frigate]

pala ab skill wheel pls

[opaque shell]

Scroll up and u will find it. Just above the spam/chat.

[balmy frigate]

k

ty

[rapid crow]

does anyone know what the perf trios are

[heavy chasm]

Check the pinned comments

[balmy frigate]

op

pala needs has so many trios

[heavy chasm]

6 skills is all you need

[dire hare]

Not really. Ab trios isn't really needed anymore once you have v2 and v4.

[balmy frigate]

ty

[glass sluice]

minimum gear for pally in 144?

[royal harness]

Full unique works fine ngl

[heavy chasm]

full uniques work even in AF30, although abit scuffed in the meso rates

[glass sluice]

ill be sitting in 144 for awhile its ok

wanna move on to erel

[heavy chasm]

you'll hit 200 by the end of tera burning right?

[glass sluice]

6 days im at 168 74%

and im not even at 144 yet

[heavy chasm]

thats 6 days of daily exp, daily quest exp, daily hunt exp

if you can push to 194, you should have enough exp potion to get to 200

[glass sluice]

er what exp potion

[heavy chasm]

1 from the bugcat event stamp, 1 from thelight2025 coupon

unless you missed both

[glass sluice]

i did miss the light2025 coupon

[heavy chasm]

what about bugcat stamp?

[glass sluice]

and bugcat

i joined when the stamps were closed already

the trade market isnt even open to me yet

[heavy chasm]

unfortunate

[glass sluice]

its okay

i dont really care since i plan on moving to erel anyways

it will 200 eventually

i mean liek it sucks its practically a free 200 but i joined late

so cant do anything

gonna make the best out of it

hold awn

technically

if i swipe

wait nvm

[rapid crow]

what v skills should I use the exp nodes on

[balmy frigate]

check pinned

@rapid crow

[blissful sierra]

Even after all this time pumping resources into DW I can’t shake the feeling maybe I should’ve gone with Pala as main

[opaque shell]

Make Erel 😂

[blissful sierra]

I will but Erel will always be alt I don’t really enjoy the skills much

[sour rock]

Hey guys! I just started a paladin about slightly more than a week ago and love the big hammer 🙃

Any tips on how i should allocate my hyper stats? I need 20 to complete my chapter

[balmy frigate]

FD>PD>ADI>MDC(if capping line)

[sour rock]

It's getting super expensive though if i add all into fd 😅

[dire hare]

Don't rush your hyper stats u less you are whaling. Level them when you get discount coupons and such. If you are whaling. Prioritise MDC first

[sour rock]

I see, i shall take my time then 🙂

[indigo robin]

Personally wouldn’t go ADI first before MDC either

MDC will make a much bigger impact

Providing to cap

But honestly if you’re not capping, ADI probably won’t make much diff either

[latent palm]

MDC > FD > ADI/(P/M)D > BA?

[oak lichen]

Hi all, Paladin hyper skill Sancro , how to give it to party member?

[opaque shell]

U select them in the party screen on the left when bossing

Just click on the name

And I think u mean Echo instead of Sancro?

[quick lion]

You need the V1 (Echo) cast on a party member before using Sancro will also mirror to them.

[oak lichen]

Thanks guys..: I will try it out later

[heavy chasm]

my phat fingers will never be able to click the correct name

[latent palm]

I think you mean sacro not sancro 😉

[opaque shell]

What u mean bro?

Edit: U were grammatically nazi’ing me

[opaque shell]

I was just helping the dude, u flaming people who help get lost

[latent palm]

Well, i actually thought it was sancro too before someone corrected me and I’m glad they did ^^

Don’t take it too personally

[dreamy vine]

Guy

What is paladin AB skill

Paladin can choose to play full support or dps is it

[dreamy vine]

Any strong paladin here can guide some in AB and bossing skikl

Skill

[heavy chasm]

Have you checked the pinned comments?

[dreamy vine]

Where to click sorry

Can't find

Weapon use necro armor all ancient can ?

[dreamy vine]

I saw the top chat how come AB never use blast lol

[glass sluice]

u try using blast

vs the 3rd job skill

see the difference

[quick lion]

Lower target count, smaller area and the Divine aspect of Blast is less suited for the quick death nature of farming (a 3 hit stack is useless when things die in 2 hits).
The only time Blast should be used for AB is if your damage is too low with Charge to 1-2 shot and you need the higher damage from Blast.

[dreamy vine]

Haha sound like I only can play WA those easy job haha

Not a expert player to use many skill lol

[quick lion]

Ehh, we kinda like Erel. Lots of stuff happening in the background, but still only really need two buttons for AB. 😉

Realistically, 95% of my AB kills now come from V2 which is passively procced from Charge/Blast, and V4.

[dreamy vine]

Hard to choose a main as maple many Jon

Job

I pump 5-10n per month need time to pump, if low dps those pt won’t let us join to hunt haha

I need time to get strong if play wa

Paladin then may have higher chance to join boss pt

Haha

[quick lion]

Yeah, Paladin, Phantom and Bishop will almost always be accepted at lower power levels than many other classes, just because of what they can bring besides just damage.

[dreamy vine]

Hi bro may I ask u ice lightning mage , wind archer which one more balance in bossing and farming ? For u u choose which

[opaque shell]

Then I am sorry, thought u were flaming. My sincere apology

[rapid crow]

what's up with running out of mp during boss fights (with potion CDs)

[quick lion]

I only have a 191 ILM and 145 WA so far.

They both do pretty well on mobbing, no clue on bossing.
That said, because of how both of them move and are able to constantly kill stuff on multiple levels above, they feel like they really need mpets to get the most out of farming.

[blissful sierra]

Mpets for sub 200…

[quick lion]

Oh, I don’t use mpets on them, just stating how they come across.
I don’t even have mpets on my main, because the return is just garbage compared to the other things I need to work on still (less than two months played).

As has been shown and mathed out, they pay for themselves in about a year of constant HT farming, most likely assuming AF170 or better.
Yeeeah, using the billions I pulled and sold to get myself up to 194 and ready for 170 as soon as I hit 210 was a far better investment.

[glass sluice]

do i need to revive mpets

[quick lion]

Yeah, every 30 days takes 1 wonder black water per pet.

[sonic gulch]

For Pala, What emblem should i go for my legendary secondary weapon?

[opaque shell]

Phy dm is BiS

If u don’t have phy damage, you could go with CD

[vagrant saffron]

What are the perfect trios to aim?

Are these good to use? Or should I keep looking for better ones

[digital maple]

I thought cd was the way to go, glad I waited and didn’t buy a cd emblem hammer 😆

[quick lion]

That question and answer was specifically about secondary weapon. They have different emblems, some of which don’t exist on other pieces.

For main weapon, armors, etc., the old 5/4 or whatever split between BA/CD still likely works best.

[blissful sierra]

What’s wrong with cd emblem hammer

[heavy chasm]

they talking about secondary weapon

[digital maple]

Thanks, I realized that after some time, at the time of writing I did not notice, my bad

[digital maple]

Nothing wrong, just misread

[digital maple]

Yes, noticed too late, thank you 🙏

[quick lion]

@vagrant saffron since I saw you asking about this in the help channel and the images were messing with you.
Text version:

[vagrant saffron]

Awesome, thank you so much!! 😊😊

[quick lion]

Quite welcome. I know using the search function for these class channels (since they’re actually discussions under one header) is a total nightmare unless you know what you’re looking for.

You CAN make a set for farming if you really want to that utilizes Divine Charge and Smite Shield with Judgement, but honestly, I wouldn’t bother.
Once you’re running your V2 and V4 at a decent upgrade level (10+), you steamroll pretty much anything you have any business farming in a given gear set.

[blissful sierra]

Amen

[royal harness]

Uh what is the trios I need for paly?

[quick lion]

#1059990734981308436 message

[royal harness]

K ty

[sour rock]

Why blast over heaven hammer?

[quick lion]

Blast is your boss spam skill and has synergy with Divine, and also keeps you V2 maxed.
HH is on a CD and has no such synergies. Using it at all instead of a Blast tends to result in a net dps loss.

Interestingly, even in later farming, I have had to drop HH from my skillwheel, because otherwise I don’t cast Charge enough and my V2 keeps falling off.

[frigid swan]

Hi pros, What is the priority for levelling my nodes? I do not have the perfect trio yet, so wasn’t sure if I should be focusing on the boost nodes that I am currently using or V2 or V4 nodes. Thank you in advance !

[elder sable]

Does no one use Mjolnir ?

[blissful sierra]

Wdym

It’s one of the strongest skills

[quick lion]

Everyone uses it.
The pins and stuff just haven’t been updated since V4 was introduced.

[blissful sierra]

If you’re using experience nodestones, don’t use them on boost skills

[elder sable]

Which nodes should i prioritise leveling

[mystic kraken]

uhh i wouldn't care much about it, but if you rlly want it so i think Divine charge, the stun that i forget name (hyper 170), and hmmm not sure about 3rd

Farm node really doesn't make much difference, in the end your character will just walk from one side to the other while several people clear the map with bigger skills, from time to time cast v3 and v4

so I would only use 3 trios for Pally (the most important ones are Blast, Divine judgment) but the perfect trio is Blast, Divine judgment, final atk (even though the final atk only gives minimal damage)

lvl 20 each so u can use more slot enchancement in vskills for get more ied% in vskills and more buffs (FD, hp) from other skills like impenetrable skin, weapon aura, maple blessing? I think that's the name

[vagrant saffron]

Is this a good hammer for 1.7B on NA Scania server? I have Legendary Weapon Stones to upgrade to Mythic and the powder.

[quick lion]

Not bad for a Leg with 18 SF already plugged in, and having unique pot to start (easy to bump to L with EDD scrolls). Would obviously prefer if CD, but with how the market’s been the past couple of weeks, it would likely be a full billion higher if it were CD.

I actually ended up going with a sword for this very reason. Couldn’t find a CD hammer to save my life to start my project.
Started with a blank CD unique, ended up here so far:

[indigo robin]

you could probably pretty easily get a clean unique BA one for ~500m, and spend like 200m getting it to 18sf

really just depends, there's been times where i've seen CD uniques for less than ~1.5b

[indigo robin]

Actually here you go lol

[vagrant saffron]

TY! Will try and snatch this one, if available, or look for CD emblem

[indigo robin]

with the last few big updates, you dont really need to have that many pieces be CD

so even if your wep is not CD, its not really a big deal

[indigo robin]

should still be up, was there 5mins ago

[quick lion]

Yeah, I have noticed more and more of the necros coming around have been BAs.
Given how little the emblem cost difference is in the grand scheme of starting a necro, my suspicion has been that people are hitting a big point of diminishing returns on the CD multiplier later. In that case, BA starts to make a lot more sense.

[indigo robin]

At a certain point, you actually need BA to do more damage. Had a friend who had full CD emblems (lv4-5) and he actually did more damage after switching out 2 of them to BA.

[quick lion]

Makes perfect sense when you consider how multipliers work.
Gaining an extra 20% on top of 400% is a much smaller increase than gaining 10% on top of 100%.

[indigo robin]

For reference, Im not full emblem, hell I’m still using PB belt. I’ve got 4 CD and 1 BA piece, all my gears are HP potted and I still hard cap Ark with just Tangyoons

Though tbf my cap is pretty low at around 25m

We’ve been given so much free stats with the last few updates that I think the importance of CD emb is significantly diminished

In saying that though you still need them

[quick lion]

Oh, most definitely, they’re just not the “if it doesn’t have this it’s trash” reach that it was before.

I’m still not to the point of really having to worry about my MDC just yet, even with necro weapon. But this has a lot to do with the fact that nodes aren’t finished, flames need work, I am still entirely a farming Hyper, just waiting to buy and fill a second page for bossing, and my cap is around 21.6m as of right now.
That December update to Legion and base MDC made sure a newbie like me didn’t have to worry about it for a little while longer.

[indigo robin]

Dw you’ll reach MDC way faster than you expect

I was doing 5-6m on ark and then all of a sudden I couldn’t get enough MDC

[quick lion]

That’s exactly what Vera told me.
Granted, I didn’t buff for it, but running up Kerning to 50 a little while ago, I still wasn’t anywhere near hitting my mdc.
We’ll see what the hits look like in Ark tonight with all of my cheapo food buffs and party stuff running.

[blissful sierra]

What level are you

[quick lion]

213 as of right now. Hitting a level every 2.5-3 days currently.

[quick lion]

Still so much work to do, but it’s going.

[blissful sierra]

You’re going really fast

214 already, here it took me ages just to hit 220

[quick lion]

Well, I do have the benefit of the new curve and SF xp bump from December.

I’ve been calculating and tracking the XP per level since I was 197 or so, and comparing this to the last full table I have seen is nuts.

Literally cut in half or more at the low end.

It obviously diminishes a bit as I am getting higher, but comparing 197 and 214, since that’s my two further points right now.

197 old: 296.67B
197 now: 155.39B

214 old: 3.056T
214 now: 1.725T

[blissful sierra]

The grind is insanely slow at this point that it feels like I wanna wait for another exp curve

[blissful sierra]

Wow

Where are the exp values

I don’t think the sheet is updated

[quick lion]

The old ones are from the Data sheet.

The new ones are literally just scratched on a notepad on my desk currently as I calc each level. XD

[blissful sierra]

Oh lol

[quick lion]

They REALLY should just have this data available on the character sheet somewhere as you level.
It’s not hard to figure it out, but it is tedious.

[blissful sierra]

imagine 220 its like 30+B exp per %

[quick lion]

Black Desert does the same crap. I don’t get it.
I’m used to old school RPGs where XP bars often had offsets or overlays showing current exp, and amount needed to level.

[blissful sierra]

I already have maxed PEXP and close to maxed exp, I’m going to get nowhere without 24/7 AB now

[blissful sierra]

Yeah I miss that, they have space on the exp bar down there anyway, they could do like PC maple showing the total needed

[quick lion]

Yeah, nearly perma AB in a constant party is what’s helped me immensely.
This was from whatever time last night we finished bosses, until right after hot time today. Only two of us running full time with a parked Bishop.

We’ll probably go ahead and pop for the kinship rings soon as well to help ease the 220+ tedium as much as possible.

[blissful sierra]

You’ll be hitting 215 soon, at that point it’s better to go with AF170

[quick lion]

I’ll be splitting my time until 225.
On a pure exp/hr basis, 194 still wins, and my main party member just hit 210 tonight with his new main.
When he runs his old main in 170 to burn that AB, I’ll go in there with him.

The main benefit to 170 is somewhat lost to me for the time being, because no mpets just yet.

[blissful sierra]

SF194 was buffed to the extreme

No point of AF anymore

[quick lion]

The mesos/hr in 194 are absolutely garbage compared to AF160+, even ignoring nodes, but that’s not my focus right now, so I don’t mind.

[quiet ether]

I always look at it as id rather get more out of my ab in exp than mesos. Sf194 till 220. Then go af.

[quick lion]

I’m not even convinced that 220 is worth shifting yet. I’ll see when I get there.
Making it to 225 and jumping straight to 380 is where the increase becomes far too obvious to ignore.

[quiet ether]

It was about 2%gain over night compared to sf194

When I say over night I mean 1800igt to about 0600igt

[quick lion]

Ahh, okay. That’s definitely tangible then. Will largely depend on how my primary party members are scaling.

Unfortunately, I know at least two of them didn’t go in on the Mag pot gift shop, so as soon as I hit 217 and jump right to 220, the gap will widen.

Honestly, that’s been my biggest issue with trying to move anywhere else, is the lack of consistent groups, and dear god the pubs tend to have absolutely awful pexp.
It’s been more efficient for just two of us with no Bishop to password 194.
As soon as we’re in a public group, our exp/hr drops off notably.

[sonic gulch]

What is the min damage need to hit to get rewards in Hard Magnus?

[quick lion]

So 7.29B, or a sub-30 clear and you’re golden.

[sonic gulch]

What is a sub 30 clear?

[exotic hill]

Clear under 30 seconds

[quick lion]

If any boss dies in under 30 sec, the % requirements are waived for the whole party.
This is to prevent people from losing rewards in cases where 1-2 high ends blast a boss down before anyone else can register a hit, let alone meet % requirements.

[blissful sierra]

Sorry but I read igt as iguana time at first 😂😂 in game time

[blissful sierra]

When did this mag pot gift shop open

[quick lion]

It was like three weeks ago, last for two.
Was 50 total pulls with 3 resets, 15k crystals to clear each reset.

[blissful sierra]

You spent 45k crystals?

[quick lion]

Mmhmm.
The potions were the main target, but also ended up selling a bunch of the stuff for about 12B so far, with some of the higher value things still waiting around for the flood to subside.

[blissful sierra]

Nuts

[quick lion]

Thought it was gonna be a lot longer before I had to worry about my 21.5 MDC. Welp, so much for that. V-skills aren’t even maxed yet.
Guess it’s time to start looking into necro armors.

[blissful sierra]

That’s the issue with Pala

Need as much cap as you can get

Pala is kinda my sub-main

Main is DW

Pala is almost at 213 though

[quick lion]

Yeah, I am seeing that now. I was told once I went from my M40 Jaihin to Necro things were gonna change a lot.
I didn’t quite believe it.
I was wrong.

Went from 6-7m lines to that, just from the weapon, Chu Chu symbol leveling, 1-2 v-skill levels, and a couple of link skill changes.

[blissful sierra]

I’m hoping things change for my DW similarly once I land that necro weapon

[quick lion]

I’m sure they will. I seriously underestimated just how important FT is, especially in the face of higher boss crit resistances.

[blissful sierra]

I’m not even close to cap right now though

[coral prism]

Hello anyone got pally v1-v4 skill description?

[quiet ether]

Everyone always does lol. People that go the chaos route just don’t know lol.

[coral prism]

Shade or pala?

[quiet ether]

Play what you like

[elder sable]

How are u guys hitting cap
I have a lvl 50 necro but im hitting 4m per line max

[quick lion]

What are your nodes, etc. looking like?
Gear is important, but without the V-skills and boost nodes to back it up, it’s gonna be an issue.

Also, food and party buffs have a lot to do with this.
I’m obviously not capping when I am derping around ABing for farm, barely hitting 5m lines there.

I once saw a post from a guy who had whaled hard, got full necro and seemed thoroughly disappointed at his damage. Asked for a screen of his stats and ended up like “bruh, you’re level 150, you’re gonna hit like a wet noodle no matter what you buy.”

[quiet ether]

Yah nodes are critical.

[blissful sierra]

What in the name of

No chance you’re hitting 4m with lvl 50 necro

My alt Pala with inherit weapon hits more than that

[elder sable]

Probably my gear too
Only my weapon is ancient and root abyss top bottom without emblem😭

[quick lion]

Okay yeah, just for comparison’s sake, you’ll see the difference here. This is my farm setup, but the only real difference to bossing is boost nodes replace rope lift and exp rune node and points get moved a bit (V3 gets max 5 for example).

Also, not having CD emblems and ideal pieces for head and gloves will definitely hamper you a bit.
Fair Trade gives 100% crit rate, but if your crit dmg is exceedingly low, it doesn’t help anywhere near as much.

Also legion grid and link skills plays a notable part as well.

But no, it doesn’t need to all be ancient.
Myth CD/BA emblem>ancient non-emblem when it comes to damage output.

This game has a LOT of places that all play together to make the big damage lines you see people capable of.
It’s not as simple as “get Abso weapon, smash everything”.

[quiet ether]

Lv50 chaos exp hammer incoming 🫣

[royal harness]

Is this ok for a full buffed level 207 f2p?

[quick lion]

I’d suggest watching this video and seeing what he does. Important part about skills and presets starts around 4:30 or so, and the video ends with GHB and GD, showing you how to get more out of what you have to work with. Echo’s obviously not f2p, but the play mechanics and principles are the same, just different values.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3iphRSR2UGc

[royal harness]

i do

i always have private chats with echo to find ways to improve

but i had to change a few things due to stuff like no necro, no 100% crit chance and stuff like that

[quick lion]

Ahhh, gotcha.
You’re on the best path you can be given your resources then, so I wouldn’t stress it too much.
I just noticed the AB wheel and didn’t know if you were flat out missing some things, or they were just on the flip side of your wheel.

[royal harness]

ye

i replaced my necro skill for the shield break

and buffs i just use pets instead of manual thats the part i am still trying to time well with v4, debuff and stuff like that

[quick lion]

It can be a pain until you have all of the V-skills leveled to the point where the cooldowns sync up properly.
I got in the habit early on of putting V3 in the center of my wheel, and holding CDs until that was ready again. It was always the last to come back up, so if I waited on that, I knew my full burst was ready again.

Obviously irrelevant in GHB or GD, since you only have time for one burst cycle in 1 minute anyway.

[violet lichen]

Hi guys, any pros can share their skill rotation during gloom darkness?

[copper bone]

-sancro every 2 darkness
-stun mobs -> fly left to right if not in iframe

if im not wrong

[tight current]

hi guys have a question

How do you guys pick people in your party to buff (ie echo)

[quiet ether]

Click their name in the party line up on the left of the screen under your HP/Mp bar

[tight current]

sorry im confused, click their name into their profile?

[quiet ether]

When you are in a boss run. All the party members are in the top left of the screen in a drop down. You click on the party member you want to echo

[tight current]

just click the name thats all? dont have to do anything else/

ill give it a try later the dayy

tyty!

[quick lion]

Correct. You’ll see the name you selected outlined in a thin flashing purple outline.

[tropic parcel]

What hyper skills do I put on for paladin? Is it just all the blast ones? I tired searching and someone told me to put it on heavens hammer but then others said they don't use heavens hammer anymore

[quiet ether]

Yah no heavens hammer

[blissful sierra]

Can put 1 point on heavens hammer cooldown reduction

It halves the cooldown which is a big difference for mobbing

[onyx mural]

Are there skill to focus on while level?
I'm currently lv 100 just started the game

[heavy chasm]

Just go with recommended ones. It doesn't matter until you reach level 200 and unlock Vskills

[blissful sierra]

Feel like I wanna get back to Paladin after being DW main

[blissful sierra]

My DW Vs my pala, my pala has much worse equips though and I just realized I forgot to equip the link skills on Pala

[kind pivot]

Afser seems to be quite active for some time

[earnest kraken]

What’s the optimal hyper stat order for bossing on this class? Not the skills but the actual stats such as FD inc, phys dmg inc, etc

[quiet ether]

That depends on funding and stats.

[indigo robin]

The standard affair

FD, PDI, MDC, ADI, BA

In that order but move MDC around depending on gears

[golden acorn]

Hi all, I just reached lvl 200. Am I doing this correctly? And what should I be focusing on? And what's the perfect trio? TIA!

[heavy chasm]

https://discordapp.com/channels/413046906638565395/1059990734981308436/1215455582312468480

[bold bison]

which skill should I max after I max V1 and V3?

[simple slate]

Any one can show me pala perfect node? Thanks

[heavy chasm]

checked pinned comments

[opaque shell]

Blast, Final Attack and Divine

U only need 2x level 25/30 nodes

[graceful verge]

According to my pleb pala battle record the final atk does little to no dmg meanwhile heaven hammer can top 7% of total dmg

Why final atk boost still prior to heaven hammer tho

[opaque shell]

I only use HH for ab

So I have a different node set for AF/SF: divine charge, hammer smithe and heavens hammer

[graceful verge]

I see, thx

[quiet ether]

More or less what you are looking for. FA is passive damage, where as Heavens hammer you have to stop spamming Blast to cast. So you lose out on dps to cast a skill that isn’t worth much of anything at all.

[opaque shell]

We are all wearing exp gear and some leech in our AF510 so it’s to ensure better clearing for all of us.

[graceful verge]

It seems like the guardian skill doesnt revive allies for me, tried in exped and kerning tower, i couldnt revive any1

Any1 have any idea?

[heavy chasm]

it requires them to actually click on "Revive"
Usually when a player dies, they need to use a revive count to revive.
Your guardian skill gives them a free revive, meaning when they click on the revive button, they do not consume the revive count.
If they do not click on the button, then obviously its not gonna work.

its not a Revive upon skill use

its more like a free revive count.

[graceful verge]

Ooh thx, on 2nd thought if it work that way its actually better, instead of passively revive by pally the teamate can do on their own

[heavy chasm]

yea, you don't have to "time" their deaths, no need to keep looking at their healthbars

[opaque shell]

My character x ChatGPT

[kind pivot]

Same

[mystic kraken]

only in Boss Dungeon like idk, ark, CRA, lótus, hra etc

and you need these close to the person

[graceful verge]

Oh okay, ty

[opaque shell]

Or same platform

[quiet herald]

.

[blissful sierra]

No nerf

I’m disappointed

[quiet ether]

Skill dmg decrease seems like a mild nerf to me

[limber yarrow]

Mild nerf

They know pally is broken but they can’t just reduce everything at once so they buff other clssses and decreased little by little pally

So long run its well rounded balanced

[dire hare]

Most classes got nerfed skill dmg wise as well

Probably to make mdc capping tougher

[mystic kraken]

🤣🤣🤣🤣

[south ruin]

does pally need to reset hyper skills?

[indigo robin]

No, unless your hyper skill was wrong in the first place

[finite hinge]

Do you use 3 blast and 2 divine charge FD + additional line or change additional line to HH cool down 5 sec?

[graceful verge]

Me i personally switch divine charge FD for HH cd cutter

[finite hinge]

Nice! must be 1hit KO AF mobs

[opaque shell]

I also use 3 blast, 1 HH cooldown and 1 increase hit count for divine

[graceful verge]

Haha im far from doing that, just a new player. But i want to "once-and-done" with hyper passives, not resetting here and there min maxing at each stage of the game so ye i went with mine like that

[opaque shell]

To be honest just go with what I have

U don’t need hypers for AF/SF nor u need node skills for it

[indigo robin]

I've got 3 blast, extra strike for divine, HH cooldown

HH cooldown is super duper important for AB

extra strike is better than FD for divine

[finite hinge]

Ok guess I'll do the same for the free reset scroll

[indigo robin]

blast, divine judgement, final attack

x2

[graceful verge]

How does divine echo additional dmg work?
It gives 90% additional dmg and lets say blast does 100k each line for 10 lines
With echo on will my blast does 1.9m or 1m+(my atk stat)*90%

[mystic kraken]

uhh in short, it greatly increases the damage of your skill, and doubles the lines of most skills

[graceful verge]

Ya it is in short haha, i just wanted some more clarification, but ty btw

[mystic kraken]

np, either way you're gonna hit cap

[graceful verge]

Idk im still nee haha

[blissful sierra]

Yeah definitely way easier to hit cap with Pala. I’ve been trying to hit my cap with DW and it’s been a struggle so far

[graceful verge]

Isnt more lines without capping better tho, ya dont need to worry about ways to increase your cap and can just fully investing into more dmg

[opaque shell]

More lines always better

[blissful sierra]

I don’t think DW has more lines than Pala

Does it?

[blissful sierra]

It does not

[rapid crow]

what buffs are the most important to put on pets if I get silver pets (2 buff slots)

[opaque shell]

For bossing?

Echo for sure

[dire hare]

You are measuring within a 1 min window. With echo pala do more dmg but the downtime without echo has a huge drop in DPS.

[blissful sierra]

Same for DW, main damage comes from V skills for DW

[dark hornet]

.

[indigo robin]

.

[blissful sierra]

.

[mystic kraken]

.

[quiet herald]

.

[undone crescent]

Only when you use echo tho 😭

[mystic kraken]

[devout solar]

how do you sancro someone? can you do it before lvl 200?

[heavy chasm]

you use divine echo on a party member, by pressing their name during bossing and casting divine echo, then cast sancro, so both of yall will get it
you unlock divine echo post 200, so unfortunately you can't sancro someone else before 200

[graceful verge]

Oh right, about echo it also give your linked teamate a pd or fd buff at 3rd or 4th job smth too right, with my pets option auto buff teamates without having the buff yet can they buff automatically

Or i still need to manual that buff

[heavy chasm]

3rd job buff is party wide

4th job buff is self target

it lasts for 5 mins, so if during divine echo, your buff expires, and your pet auto renews it, then your linked teammate should get it

else you'll have to buff them manually after u link with them

[graceful verge]

Ah thx, ig i have to put that buff in the macro after echo then

[compact acorn]

Hello end game paladin still use divine charge?

[opaque shell]

For AF why?

[compact acorn]

I want to set a simple skill wheel for bossing and farming I was thinking of taking divine charge out

Is it possible to live without divine charge?

[opaque shell]

If u have SF/AF nodes I would use DC