#STHD-Evolution 8.1 suggestion.

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crude creek
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yea

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though, f2p raiders can get a decent loadout with free 3c

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but itā€™s the bare minimum to be able to fight in this game

quiet sedge
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If you're going to speak non-sense then it's better to stay quiet ngl

lone shell
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in exchange for joining aegis, they gain the feeling of control, a facade of emotions to satiate their emotions without breaking their financially responsible bank

dusky lion
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not at all- it's usually bugged and when it isn't, it's annoying to use

crude creek
lone shell
crude creek
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ehhh

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3c isnā€™t that bad at medium range

lone shell
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also aint great

quiet sedge
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rn we're no better than an operative with l11 on patrol

lone shell
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also requires you to basically focus on headshots with 3c because its like tickling someone if ur just doing body shots

quiet sedge
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add heatseeking to our scope or something

lone shell
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yes at this point lets give them aimbot

quiet sedge
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thermal

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and a bullet that bends

crude creek
quiet sedge
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to hit my target for me

heavy knoll
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Atp give the sniper built in hbe

quiet sedge
lone shell
dusky lion
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let's keep it a tad bit serious bro

quiet sedge
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complain about that in an mdf thread

lone shell
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also why are we debating this on the fact of how they compare to an aegis divless with a certain weapon

rustic path
quiet sedge
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and a grappler

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that can be crafted

rustic path
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Grappler is OP

crude creek
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the grappler is key

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I literally suffer when my 2 weeks end

quiet sedge
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no way these guys are real rrn

rustic path
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I'd choose grappler over MDF sensor any day

crude creek
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same

quiet sedge
crude creek
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anyway, in general divisions but pksf need new things

rustic path
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I'd choose SC tablet over grappler

elfin void
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notice how the only working esp that a divisional gets is the mdf censor

lone shell
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as an sc i prefer mdf sensor cuz i cant go outside

crude creek
lone shell
elfin void
crude creek
dusky lion
heavy knoll
crude creek
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this is literally average dod wait time for update

elfin void
crude creek
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itā€™s not the first time shit is broke and people have to wait ages

dusky lion
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1 sec

heavy knoll
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I remember many raiders hiding spots in labs being found out by the tracker

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So it can't be THAT bad

crude creek
dusky lion
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Read this

crude creek
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possibilitiesā€¦ possibilitiesā€¦

elfin void
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how about

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we make disruptor work against mdf censor

crude creek
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make the tracker a tablet

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easy fix

elfin void
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like make it so sthd can put people on the tracker as sthd wing

crude creek
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make it so it can track a single person in a radius with a 5 mins cooldown or something

elfin void
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and then you can accept it on the tablet

elfin void
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or atleast the one that worked

dusky lion
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it is tho

elfin void
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its just the fact that its easier to go manually find them with your eyes

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as i've heard from other sthd

dusky lion
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when it worked, many sthds directly did NOT use it because it was so terrible to use

crude creek
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well, try to find a solution with the devs to make it easier to access

elfin void
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also, i feel like if someone's in a weird place like labs or reactor, you'd have to memorize the entire map THROUGH WALLS

crude creek
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this game is so ass

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itā€™s so ass and I love it

elfin void
dusky lion
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imagine going all the way to STHD wing, tracking the guy, and him dying to a random other guy while you are in the wasteland

having to go back to the sthd wing and repeat the whole damn process

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no wonder none uses it even when it works

crude creek
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problem solved

elfin void
crude creek
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I think it would be a nice fix

elfin void
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or the theater operations or wtv its called

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the design is good for stuff that actually needs a wide ui but like

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i'd prefer something like the aed tablet thing

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and the raider one

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in size

crude creek
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mhm

elfin void
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this is from wiki but like

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would be a fire design

young shell
marsh canyon
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I agree with reworking tracker or anything else like adding new useful gear but I don't agree with the armor part

gaunt ice
marsh canyon
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Y'all aren't a cqc division

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It's like that for a reason

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Don't expect to be like pksf or mdf

magic elm
# marsh canyon Y'all aren't a cqc division

Even if we aren't a cqc, you can't expect us to be long range in all situations. Protecting the facility exists as well. Why do other divisions that aren't even combative get more armor than a combative one? Doesn't matter if we do "long range".

chrome cradle
marsh canyon
magic elm
marsh canyon
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ARD? That gets involved often in combat while doing their duties and those aren't long range, they get rushed most of the times, even if they aren't combative they require so

magic elm
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more

magic elm
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Including facility

marsh canyon
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We both know AIA do things that require so

magic elm
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AIA have the same armor as a combat division?

marsh canyon
magic elm
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How tf are we comparing STHD

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Which even wasteland combat

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includes close range

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and we both know that

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To standard aegis who their max combat is at cliffs.

marsh canyon
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Close range be cause you want

magic elm
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So you get rushed in the facility or rushed on a towere

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its because we want?

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Like what are u even saying

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Raider in labs

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because we want?

marsh canyon
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You are a sniper hitman division, you're representing it like if you are special forces or something

magic elm
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So you expect us to snipe all day?

marsh canyon
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Zaw are you hearing yourself

magic elm
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Bro

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ur saying all we do is snipe

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and that if we do close range

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its because we want

marsh canyon
magic elm
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U cant be real

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I mean sure

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give us low armor but at least give us normal buffs in long range

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We cant even identify raiders nowadays they all look the same

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and have the same gamepasses

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so how do you expect us to be long ranging all the time

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wiothout getting rk reported

marsh canyon
magic elm
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if we get those buffs

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go aehad no armor

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ahead

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but give those buffs at least lol

marsh canyon
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I said I agree with giving you new gear and things to help I with that

magic elm
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And ur acting as if we dont do close range

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and as if mdf dont do long range

magic elm
marsh canyon
magic elm
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If we get those buffs

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then we won't ened armor

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But at the moment we don't have any of those buffs.

marsh canyon
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Because we are cqc and our guns aren't that good for long range

magic elm
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Therefore we rarely even do long range

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LRP is basically a 1S which is used a lot in CQC as well

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Just not in spraying

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Now the issue is

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Without stuff to identify or perhaps "buffs", long range isn't realistic

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And even if we got those buffs, there would still be multiple situations where we are required to do close range

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simply when it comes to facility protection

marsh canyon
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Chairman made sthd to be a divisional sniper hitmans you can't be defending with the only argument that as the game as the meta of not aiming and using one taps then you're cqc

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I see good and needed the buffs of gear

magic elm
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Well, as I said. Armor will be required if we don't get any buffs

marsh canyon
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But you aren't mean to have too many armor as the original idea of the division wasn't having snipers rushing

magic elm
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Simply because a standard STHD Agent will encounter way more combat than any ARD.

marsh canyon
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That's why you have that armor as it was intended like that

magic elm
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I stil ldont' get how ard get more armor

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makes 0 sense

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sure make t->ja low armor

marsh canyon
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Main zones of combat are related to ard duties

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Labs, aed, ore zones, bins, inside the facility itself, and other duties they carry out in the wasteland

magic elm
marsh canyon
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They get targeted and chairman gave them an armored hazardous combatics

magic elm
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Thats why SAU MRT and TTS were made

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So ARD can do their duties

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while SAU MRT and TTS

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protect them

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and assist them

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as they are the combative divisions

marsh canyon
magic elm
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U legit said ard get armor because all the combat they have

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when SAU Agents encounter way more combat

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than a normal ARD

marsh canyon
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SAU is not MRT nor TTS, you still don't understand the purpose of sthd creation in this game

magic elm
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But that doesn't mean they dont do shit such as protecting labs

marsh canyon
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That's the reason

magic elm
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cr

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reactor

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?

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How do u do long range at labs cr and reactor

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explain

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Like what bro

marsh canyon
magic elm
marsh canyon
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So as SC also goes to protect cr we give them armor too, I can still give out more examples

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Like I said before

marsh canyon
magic elm
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Another example

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Breaching

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Raiders inside breaching locations

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for example

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Will result in us having to fight close range

marsh canyon
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And you can't be going with that as an argument as chairman already expressed his non acceptance of subdivisions, he doesn't like them

magic elm
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Ur saying its our choice that we encounter cqc

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when thats fully wrong

marsh canyon
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But you aren't a cqc division

magic elm
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OK?

marsh canyon
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That's what you dont understand

magic elm
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But we still encounter cqc in many ways?

marsh canyon
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And?

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You aren't a cqc division

magic elm
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Ur reasoning for ard getting armor

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is because they go to labs and shit

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therefore I said

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that we also do that

marsh canyon
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They go cqc

magic elm
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.

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GGs

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Holy shit bro

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I cant

marsh canyon
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Holy shit what

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It's you trying to give STHD a definition that they aren't

magic elm
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šŸ‘

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gl

marsh canyon
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Nono gl to you and your suggestion

magic elm
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ty <3

marsh canyon
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If you don't understand basics good luck, I still agree on gears but don't expect me to agree on armor

magic elm
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I said 40 times if we get gears idc about armor but if not we require armor

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lol?

marsh canyon
magic elm
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@marsh canyon Idk if u didn't understand me well. What im trying to say is without these gears, as much as we are a long range division this shit requires us to go CQC as we simply don't have any stuff to assist us in long range other than a sniper which isn't realistic at all (Due to many reasons stated in this suggestion earlier). Therefore, if we do get those gears, then the armor would be fine as we will actually be long ranging all day although if we don't, it will stay the same way where we are required to go CQC and long range will not be realistic therefore more armor will be required.

molten horizon
marsh canyon
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I do understand sometimes we all go cqc but that doesn't convert you to a cqc division that needs an armor buff, STHD is a long range division even stated in your own deadass message in #āž—divisional-information , not even a single word referring to cqc, not even your duties, this what you saying of meeting raiders in close combat are casual game combat as your are between walls like anybody else, your duties as stated in divisional information is to assist and protect in a long range, and with SAU the same and you know so, your whole division is meant to be a stealth, long range, sniper hitman division and has nothing to do about close range combat just because you're between walls in some of the combat zones that are standardized for anyone that goes to the same location, gears would be useful to identification of undercover enemies in long range, what you are meant to be but it's very difficult, we cannot be giving other random thing that has nothing to do or isn't needed just because you want to get something if gears aren't given or just to buff your division and sorry but I do not support the armor part of the suggestion, you have all my support for any gear you need to make your division unique in long range, identifying or whatever has to do with your duties

magic elm
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Again, if we get the gears (Which u approve on) then more armor won't be required. Yet if we don't then we will be stuck at the same position where we try to be a long range division, yet due to many stuff (Stated in the this suggestion) it won't be realistic or possible, therefore sadly we will require more armor.

marsh canyon
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Giving out substitute buffs wont happen as it has no source base of an actual reason, the main argument is because if you don't get gear buffs or new gear then armor as a substitute, using standard zones and casual meta combat as another reason that has nothing to do with the actual purpose of the division, just changing the definition of it just because the meta is to use one taps or snipers however you want to call it in cqc, although those aren't meant for that. Going over that you don't care about the armor simply because you don't need it due to long range auto confronts your own arguments regarding all this nonsense of discussion you are giving, you aren't CQC, this happens inside facility like anybody else, outside where most of your main duties are is long range take downs and assist to CQC divisions that are PKSF and MDF. I can understand and comprehend the frustration or disappointing on not having good gear for long range, but that doesn't build up a solid argument or reason to give STHD an armor buff. And if you really need I will give my opinion on each of the sections of this suggestion marked with separate dots.

magic elm
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Not having sold gear results in us going CQC (As long range is legit impossible when we get reported for RK each minute).

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U can read this suggestion again if you want.

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People stated many ways where not having solid gear results in us going CQC simply because going longe range won't be possible.

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Therefore if we don't solid gear, we will be stuck with the same system where we have many problems going long range, simply because the big amount of risks it brings.

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Just wait for chairman response atp

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Doesn't really matter what were even saying

chrome cradle
marsh canyon
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So first:

  • I do agree STHD as a long range division lacks of some gear or outdated gear that isn't that useful for the actual purpose of the division, therefore I agree and suggest to give STHD a better gear or update the current one.

  • I agree on giving STHD a better NV, or the best as they need it at night to better identification and select their target more precisely, maybe removing a bit of fog for them so they can see better, or just giving a new gear that substitutes this NV purpose and helps them with it.

  • STHD as said above is a long range division, made to assist other combative divisions that are CQC from a high location sniping the enemies or calling out an enemy location, basically a standard sniper division from any of the current IRL military forces. CQC is not meant for STHD and that makes your weak spot for raiders, as well as for example long range combat is the weak spot for MDF and we don't suggest a scope or any gun for long range because we sometimes encounter long range, simple as that, each division envolves their suggestions to their standards and definitions of their division.

  • Given the example of MDF, The Masked Delta Force, the elite of the elite combat divisions, get this amount of armor due to their very common and main duty in combat, rushing and being the first line of defense and offense of AEGIS, stated in the official wiki of this game managed by a department specifically for this type of information. I agree STHD lacks of the gear and needs some, but armor doesn't solve the issue as being a tank division is not meant to happen and the provided arguments have no solid base for it.

  • As you said it's temporarily, this won't simply be accepted as giving out armor temporarily is just unnecessary, soon hoepfully STHD will have their tracker back and hopefully as well new gear to help you carrying out that spotting targets duty.

  • (HAUT in the next message)

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Im giving out my opinion on the main suggestion on top of this thread

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  • I can agree on making STHD's HAUT silenced or just a bit noisy but near the silence so players a have at least a way of spotting you comming but not as noisy like it is now. About no divisional being able I'm not sure since the quest gives out a slower and louder HAUT so makes a difference, as well as having to farm for it, it indeed is intended for STHD but giving out the posibility of farming it isn't bad, however this can be discussed by ToML or the Chairman and give out an outcome about the usage, at the moment it is allowed.

  • I wouldn't mind giving out STHD access to manage their bounty system and place bounties in STHD wing, I in fact think it should be like that and not depending on AIA too much, I agree on this.

magic elm
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Appreciate it void

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Cuz I actually do thing if we get the njormal gear for long range

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We will be doing it way more

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than the current system

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Also from what I heard the quest Haut is more silent than the one we get

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But im not sure if it's true

marsh canyon
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Not sure

magic elm
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Regardless we should get some helpful gear

marsh canyon
magic elm
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And then also

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The issue with the tracker system

marsh canyon
magic elm
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Is that each time the target dies

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We need to go back and track them

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Which takes like 3 minutes now

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As it's all thej way back in STHD wing

marsh canyon
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Yeah thats why I said giving out new gear, updating the current one or both at the same time

magic elm
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And it's basicaly unrealistic to go track each death as we use them on hits and on hits we will be positioned at the wasteland (Not even talking about the system being broken atm)

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And then theres that one gamepass which blocks it

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But thats not the main issue atm

stiff python
rapid elk
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why do I not see a green reaction from you truck if you agree šŸ‘€

rapid elk
rapid elk
rapid elk
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I don't understand.

marsh canyon
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Do I really have to continue explaining?

chrome cradle
marsh canyon
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Continue reading more below rather than just going straight with the first thing you read

marsh canyon
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Just by telling me that

rapid elk
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Just mentioning the most clear and obvious one's

marsh canyon
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If you really knew to what I am refering to you wouldn't be saything this, and also as an UO you are you should know so

rapid elk
lone shell
rapid elk
marsh canyon
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you can read each of your points while reading so if you need better cohesion

rustic path
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Can SC get an upgrade to teleport around the facility šŸ˜ž

rapid elk
# marsh canyon So first: - I do agree STHD as a long range division lacks of some gear or outd...

Again, the reason I said "zoom out vision" rather than "upgraded NV" is to let STHD identify persons based on their usernames as well.

  • An updated NV with reduced fog would be ideal, but it would not completely eliminate the problem.

  • Fixing and updating the tracker, as well as giving STHD the permission to manage it, will resolve the issue.

Currently, the simplest option for developers is to increase the zoom out % in STHD.

Other suggestions, as stated by AIA OW, may appear to be more advanced; allowing STHD access to the bounty system may prove difficult. But it would be ideal if it were actually implemented.

The armor suggestion is minor in comparison to the other suggestions.

marsh canyon
rustic path
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Why would you get better armor, aren't sniper people supposed to be light and nimble

rapid elk
marsh canyon
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Just as I've said I'm just against the armor suggestion, and as long it is part of the suggestion I won't be fully convinced to mark the approve

rustic path
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If anything you should have less armor trollface_aegis

young shell
marsh canyon
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again seriously

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could you care to go up and read the whole conversation

young shell
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chill iā€™m still reading šŸ˜­

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@marsh canyon u have to be ragebaiting šŸ˜­ šŸ˜­

marsh canyon
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bruh

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All of this non sense because you are giving more attention than necessary to the least important of the suggestions that as said by your own uoc its just a substitute suggestion in case they dont get anything of gear then armor, so it doesn't have a valid solid base of argumentation for it, just random combat facts throws at me that has nothing to do with the actual purpose of the division and not focusing that I agreed with the 99% of the suggestion but the armor part that I see unnecessary

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saying that just shows the lack of care you have to my opinion

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so yeah, proving again about the only thing I disagree, that theres no solid argument behind it

crude creek
chrome cradle
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guys

gaunt ice
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hi

chrome cradle
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ya realize none of all these suggestions will be implemented

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unless dylan reads them and puts his time to work on them

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šŸ˜‚

young shell
# marsh canyon All of this non sense because you are giving more attention than necessary to th...

i understand what you mean and you have your own opinion. yes we are a division thatā€™s mostly focused on long ranged combat and like zaw was saying we donā€™t always get on the game and just snipe people. i get thatā€™s one of the main purposes but we also deal with cqc and help other divs in the wasteland not just through long range combat. (ex mdf dies to raider on tls and an sthd is climbing up as it happened. lets say that sthd is f2p had 0 gamepasses and the raider is mostly p2w. what is that sthd going to do with 89 base armor or 189 with regular kevlar?) we need more armor for it. i didnā€™t even know ARD has more base armor than us. šŸ˜­ you canā€™t just expect a combative div to just focus on 1 central combat type just because thatā€™s what was stated in div info

gaunt ice
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is thus the new aegis chat

crude creek
young shell
chrome cradle
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so like

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all this yapping is pointless

gaunt ice
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I can spam ping him rq

chrome cradle
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unless ur just having fun

gaunt ice
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I can take 8 strikes

young shell
gaunt ice
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It was said somewhere

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By 3dm

marsh canyon
marsh canyon
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and the 7th

gaunt ice
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trust

marsh canyon
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same and not for being officer

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šŸ˜­

gaunt ice
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im pret sure UC & ToML can get % strikes

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infinityte

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tuff fit!

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3DMATX has 14 currently

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he used command on hemself

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the info

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to see hm he got

marsh canyon
young shell
young shell
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regarding the wiki it can be changed as well

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and most of the info from the wiki is from the div info message

clear nest
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The rare chance I have gotten is sniping from jkl to robotics but the scope doesnā€™t even scope enough for that distance and that ainā€™t a huge distance

dusky lion
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the armour thing is just in case the devs aren't going to add proper methods of being an actual hitman...

chrome cradle
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do u mean aiming down sights with the sniper

zinc panther
zinc panther
clear nest
clear nest
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And if we could just have a longer range scope too

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I do recall sniping from jkl to TLS once and they were both the smallest speck with our scope and also you could only barely make out their silhouette, + I only knew they were a target because the killed me beforehand as well as multiple other people

zinc panther
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Breh

tardy sapphire
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Fog reduction on ur end maybe but that could be op very quickly

Low armor is intentional, you can buy light kevlar as well to stack on top of your default

Smthn smthn probably classified answer that I cba to risk

Haut would be op if silent, it's always better then the raider version

late eagle
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AAAAAAAA OF COURSE B6ZERK IS REACTING NO

chrome cradle
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Guys

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Exile that guy NOW

late eagle
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The NON legit player reacts no šŸ™ šŸ’€

chrome cradle
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Im adding a deny for the love of the game

late eagle
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Elit you might be legit but im gonna implant esp into your pc and frame you

chrome cradle
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No pls

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I will call SSP and rikka love 1

late eagle
heavy knoll
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Real ones add an deny

late eagle
heavy knoll
late eagle
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The man above me is sponsored by the big yahu

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Do NOT vote no

amber quiver
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Iā€™m downvoting because im not part of adhd

stiff python
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interesting comment

zinc panther
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swear half of mdf has downvoted this suggestion

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lol

merry dagger
zinc panther
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Still a large demographic of people against the suggestion are MDF, just an observation

merry dagger
royal trellis
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as a member of mdf, i will now downvote this suggestion

gaunt ice
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bro just doesint want to do that extra work

rapid elk
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I mean their opinions don't matter they're not QA members neither they're chairman

magic elm
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just wait for chairman to answer i guess

young shell
magic elm
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he was already pinged about it

stark rover
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Chairman is most likely focused on wisely

heavy knoll
dusky lion
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you guys just don't want us to be happy

quiet sedge
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Youā€™re nothing

heavy knoll
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Agree to disagree šŸ‘

quiet sedge
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This level of ignorance just because youā€™re in a different Lego group has to be studied

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Incredibly special behavior

heavy knoll
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If i say anything Ur OW will cry to my OW

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So ima just be quiet

rapid elk
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If I was you I'd quit speaking off topic in this channel.

magic elm
heavy knoll
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šŸŒ½āš½

quiet sedge
quiet sedge
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I wonā€™t entertain this guy more than that

heavy knoll
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Please keep this discussion on-topic.

quiet sedge
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Okay

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You already denied this suggestion so just stop speaking further because you look stupid

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You neither speak for or as STHD

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Pack it up

heavy knoll
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You shouldn't attack people for disagreeing with you.

dusky lion
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just leave it you two if you are only going to beef with eachother

quiet crater
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Increased vision, yes
Armor no, stealthy tanky guys dont fit the lore, mdf should have more as its cqc
Identifying yes
Grappler yes
Bounty system and tracking integrated with hits, yes but many restrictions

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Armor could be buffed though but not above mdf's

rapid elk
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Never mentioned it will be above MDF's.

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šŸ‘

quiet crater
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I wish sthd could have the ability to just lay flat on the ground šŸ„ŗ

gaunt ice
quiet crater
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And decrease lrp bullet visibility by like 50% cuz when you fire 1 shot they know where its from

gaunt ice
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Also give sthd a silent pistol

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we hitmen

quiet crater
gaunt ice
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Give sthd grenade launch3r

quiet crater
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Better to finish downed people than a pistol

gaunt ice
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Boozoka

quiet crater
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Aia has the pistol

gaunt ice
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Aia should get a taser instead

rapid elk
marsh canyon
marsh canyon
# zinc panther swear half of mdf has downvoted this suggestion

I can assure you it's not a prejudice on sthd from MDF, so please I'll ask you kindly to not think that of my division, each one of us has a personal opinion and if they agree on one thing that doesn't mean anything. I'd downvote this suggestion if it was more about the armor but as I spoke and argumented with zaw and yone it is a minor issue, so based on that, I remarked several times I agree in many things about this suggestion except one, and if you consider to take my opinion seriously, I want to say I didn't upvoted it as still contains the part I don't agree with, so, so far now I'm not fully against it but unless the part I don't agree with gets removed, my vote won't be counted.

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Also please for both mdf and sthd, stop hating eachother based off prejudices, outside the divisions we are players of the same game and we all enjoy it, we don't have to hate eachother for being in a different division that is kind of similar one to the other one, I'd ask to stop this stupid competition on which division is the best and focus on working as a team of combative divisional members completely for the first time.

heavy knoll
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Yessir šŸ«”

clear nest
marsh canyon
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I wish hopefully someday soon our divisions finally forgive eachother for the hate and contempt both have expressed to eachother and not having members of each division targeting the opposite divisional members on anything, instead being happy to having a brother-kind of division very united in duties and purpose in this game, finally uniting forces and demonstrating how efficient we can be together, it's been so long this haven't happened and as I said I wish it does soon, I think each one of you are magnificent persons but consumed by a hate without an actual reason shared from generation to generation of MDFs and STHDs and I think we should finally put an end to it, said this, I want you to understand all the arguments I've said here is not to provoke hate or contempt to STHD I was just giving my personal opinion based off the actual game definitions and the usage I've thought and seen of. Still I agreed to 99% of this suggestion as I agree my STHD guys need new upgrades and new gear as I see it unfair to have these disadvantages, but there's only one point I don't agree with and I've shared my reasons, if someone got offended, I just want to apologize, I wasn't intending to disrespect any of you, just sharing my point of view, good luck with this suggestion STHD.

clear nest
crude creek
heavy knoll
marsh canyon
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I want to also remark, I'm not an angel, I've also fallen into the same hate and contempt to the opposite division in the past, but I've recently opened my eyes and just noticed each one of us are players of Day of Dusk, that enjoy it and having on our hands that we are a brother-kind divisions is just a blessing, this is why I wanted to make the first step into the forgiveness, if I want to be forgiven for the hate I might have spread in the past I must first forgive the other people that hated on me or my division, as it's not their fault, they just were consumed by an unreasonable hate that was shared to them generation to generation. With these messages I want to invite all of you MDF and STHD members to open your eyes as I did and make your own steps alongside me into the forgiveness and creating a new generation different to the previous ones we've had, filling this one with acceptance and teamwork, I purely think we have plenty of potential, it is just buried with the dust of hate and contempt accumulated through these years, I wish we could uncover it together.

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@magic elm @rapid elk I wish you could forgive me and my MDF members someday for the hate spread these years

heavy knoll
merry dagger
# marsh canyon I want to also remark, I'm not an angel, I've also fallen into the same hate and...

i dont think most of us held contempt for sthd in the first place but i would encourage those who do to drop it and be more accepting of those who took a different path within aegis. i think the argument derived from the fact that both divisions still want to have a place and not feel overshadowed by another divisionā€™s changes. of course we both have our own quirks, we just dont want too much overlap between mdf and sthd as theyā€™re the main combatic divisions and we want to seperate our options and make our own divisions more appealing.

crude creek
merry dagger
marsh canyon
# merry dagger i dont think most of us held contempt for sthd in the first place but i would en...

Still there has been plenty of hate through these years by so many people from both of the divisions and this cannon't be ignored, I want the remaining hate to disappear, we can be independent divisions with our own inquires and without overlapping eachother. Accepting and making a step forward those who didn't isn't harmful in any way and doesn't overlap anything, my point is to end this unreasonable hate and yes there might be that ''fear'' of getting overshadowed for the other division's changes, but I think we must have to focus on our own divisions and not feel jealous because the other division got an update, by today, sthd is in disadvantage and they clearly stated it in this channel, with some of their gear not working and lacking of ways and tools to fully perform their duties efficiently, it's not a matter of development superiority competition, it's about efficiency of each of the divisions, we shouldn't worry about these type of things and instead focus on our own division and give all of our attention to it, using our ways of collecting feedback from both external users and MDF members to find lacks of efficiency within our division and then finding and suggesting to the development department an update to fix those gaps of efficiency.

heavy knoll
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@gaunt ice

gaunt ice
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tbh

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i aint reading all of this

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but i upvote

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with the sthd

merry dagger
# marsh canyon Still there has been plenty of hate through these years by so many people from b...

iā€™m not saying that sthd doesnā€™t deserve an update because it threatens our divisions duties and purpose, i was simply stating where the. argument likely originated from. of course we need to focus on our own divisions but something to note is that we donā€™t have the capability of deciding what development ultimately decides to do to each. people were simply trying to ensure that their concerns were voiced and personally i see nothing wrong with that until the argument turns from constructive to name-calling. id like for everyone to stop assuming malice from others criticism and instead consider others opinions. that doesnā€™t mean you necessarily have to agree with them, however it definitely encourages constructive conversation without immediately reacting with blame and contempt. of course i agree that hatred between sthd and mdf should stop, im simply iterating that people are allowed to voice their concerns even if it disagrees with the original poster suggesting a change, it just shouldnt get ugly like it did.

marsh canyon
# gaunt ice i aint reading all of this

i'd be glad if you did, I want STHD members to comprehend my position and the future I dream of, I agree with the suggestion except one point of it, but that doesn't mean Im against it, it's under your consideration to have a chance of reading my words

heavy knoll
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Yes we should stop hating on people just because they disagree with us on something.

gaunt ice
marsh canyon
gaunt ice
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i rather not say what im thinkinga bout saying rn

marsh canyon
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I'll be happy if people actually used this channel to suggest more interesting additions to STHD instead of fighting eachother with hate and contempt

gaunt ice
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like us sthd didnt get a update in 4 years mdf kept getting those daily updates

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ykyk

merry dagger
marsh canyon
gaunt ice
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probrly just the feeling ur getting

marsh canyon
gaunt ice
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tbh i dont rly give a shit if STHD gets a update I already still enjoy it the way it is im not trying to hate on anyone

marsh canyon
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I really want you guys to get this new stuff suggested in this channel

merry dagger
marsh canyon
merry dagger
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of course i enjoy the current state of my division but that doesnt mean i cant strive to make it even better

marsh canyon
marsh canyon
merry dagger
marsh canyon
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we just should forget the ideal of development superiority amongst divisions, of course each one of us want our division to have many updates and I encourage each one of you to defend that, but that doesn't mean it should lead to divisional hate

merry dagger
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no one wants to be an advocate for hatred

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i think

marsh canyon
# merry dagger yes

I might be a pain on the back sometimes and yall know it, specially mdf but I don't do it in a malicious way, the way I'm talking now, it's still me that annoying guy that some refer as to. I actually just want to take out some smiles for yall

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anyways, hope my words made a change, lets return to the actual topic of this

merry dagger
young shell
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what are these ai paragraphs

dusky lion
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sthd JAs need a manners check what am i reading...

rain magnet
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Holy yap.

quiet crater
young shell
young shell
stark rover
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People can have different opinions

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It is inevitable for we are not a hivemind

zinc panther
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I never understood MDF and STHD beef I always thought it was pretty childish

rapid elk
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But understandable.

heavy knoll
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I agree.

dusky lion
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on a side note

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101 upvotes

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yay

marsh canyon
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Nothing is impossible and less with these type of things

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Well, you understanding my objectives feels like a start, I'm very happy, even if that doesn't even mean that you have forgiven me

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I did forgive all of you, this is only the start

gaunt ice
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cloned only did āŒ because he don wanna do that extra work

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trust

rapid elk
gaunt ice
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šŸ˜­

royal trellis
eager meadow
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@hard lodge wyd bro why āŒ?

royal trellis
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w speed

undone torrent
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  1. Besides the sniper none of our tools serve this purpose, other than the tracker which is bugged 24/7 and no one's fixing it. + anyone can buy an AWP and be a DIY STHD.
  2. I fail to see how this unbalances the game. You already have weapons that 1 tap people, why is this the thing you complain about?
  3. I agree with the armor, I don't believe having more armor for STHD is that necessary, and there are always additional armors/plates they can equip.
  4. If you really believe we only exist to help other division you are incredibly delusional.
  5. Patience can go so far, if it's been unusable for years.
  6. Faster or slower makes little difference, both make a loud noise and that alone is enough to stop anyone using the grappler, since they move in a diagonal line.
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That's how I see it

zinc panther
marsh canyon
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like 100%

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nice pov

hard lodge
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i agree with most of it

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but i dont agree with being able to see names from across the map

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thatā€™s hacking but allowed

rain magnet
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Via a scope or binoculars.

hard lodge
rain magnet
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Dude this is a game, people can have vantablack skins.

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Irl? No.

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Also it can be balanced.

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Can be worked out.

zinc panther
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whatā€™s the point of being a long range reconnaissance division if we canā€™t even identify identical enemies from afar

hard lodge
zinc panther
hard lodge
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what your asking for is basically hacks

rain magnet
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Jesus Christ.

zinc panther
rain magnet
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Mate, ESP is different.

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Do your own research please and ty.

hard lodge
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I just think itā€™s too Op

rain magnet
young shell
rain magnet
brisk isle
hard lodge
brisk isle
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then you know its absolute pain

hard lodge
brisk isle
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i suppose.

dusky lion
quiet crater
elfin void
quiet crater
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Otherwise dont kill šŸ˜­

quiet crater
elfin void
quiet crater
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Oh

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Before 8.0 it was broken too but it was somewhat useable

elfin void
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it's still 8.0

gaunt ice
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its 8.0.42 nub

young shell
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son šŸ˜­ āœŒļø

undone torrent
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Now you can't get anyone on the tracker to begin with

quiet crater
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Tracker is the top reason sthd is good

undone torrent
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Fr

candid vault
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This includes the STHD tracker/bounty system, which is temporarily unavailable due to development issues. STHD has no other bonuses for spotting targets from a long distance than that tracker.

There is no bug report I can see relating to your bounty system being broken and if there is it hasn't been bumped in months

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This is exactly the shit I talk about when people complain about things being broken

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It's like a circle jerk

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ARD has been the worst for it

candid vault
elfin void
magic elm
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From what bran told me

candid vault
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Again, a fucking circle jerk of you all thinking one of you has reported it when in reality you all just complain amongst eachother about features not working instead of taking the initative of going "fuck it, I'll just report it anyways"

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Nobody's going to get punished for reporting a bug that actually exists

magic elm
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But if qa didnā€™t report it , even tho they claim they did then I will try make a bug report . I can send u the issues as I sent them to blout already

candid vault
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I need a detailed feedback report

magic elm
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It simply looks like this without any target even if you try refreshing it

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chrome cradle
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nice tracker leak

young shell
quiet crater
rapid elk
rapid elk