wiki-chat

[weak coral]

https://gtfo.fandom.com/wiki/GTFO_Wiki:Community_portal

found here

[flint meadow]

Yeah we know

[humble oracle]

AGAIN, ING NOT ED

[weak coral]

then, please, do not spread misinformation

[humble oracle]

ive said it like 10 times

[humble oracle]

???????????????????

how dare you

[flint meadow]

What misinformation?

[young elk]

what is the difference

[humble oracle]

i didn't misspeak once

[weak coral]

this is misinformation

[humble oracle]

THIS IS FACTUAL

ING NOT ED

[flint meadow]

What is happening

[weak coral]

I missed your point

datamining isn't allowed in the discord

[humble oracle]

i said explicitly that it has nothing to do with posting DATAMINED ( P A S T T E N S E ) content

[weak coral]

that is not what the rule says

[flint meadow]

Again it doesn’t matter because I clarified I meant im gonna work on the wiki

[weak coral]

or implies

[humble oracle]

!!??!?!?!?!?

[weak coral]

datamining discussions are not allowed in the discord

they are allowed in the wiki

[flint meadow]

Never said I was gonna do datamining or use data mines info

[humble oracle]

https://tenor.com/view/facepalm-picard-star-trek-the-next-generation-disappointed-gif-23456183

[flint meadow]

You-

You cant chat on the wiki

[humble oracle]

he is just blatantly trying to troll and instill a fight

[flint meadow]

Theres no just wiki chat

[weak coral]

you can still put datamined content on there

[young elk]

but you can still put datamined info on there

[humble oracle]

yes no duh

[flint meadow]

Yeah I know

[humble oracle]

we arent even talking about that

that was never the question

not once

[flint meadow]

I just never admitted id do it out loud

Plus even D0c has sent Datamined data to us in this chat

So it’s fine

D0c helps supply the wiki actually it’s quite useful

[weak coral]

I caught up on the rules

you are allowed to discuss data mined weapon statistics

it's in the gtfo discord rules

[flint meadow]

We know-

[humble oracle]

mods please help us

[weak coral]

so you're able to add it to the wiki

[flint meadow]

Pretty sure thats what Frosty has been trying to tell you since the beginning

[humble oracle]

we've said the same thing 40 times

[weak coral]

and you're able to discuss it in the discord (at least weapon statistics wise)

[flint meadow]

We know-

[weak coral]

elaborate

[humble oracle]

who are you arguing with

[weak coral]

on your point

[humble oracle]

we have

[weak coral]

about it not being allowed

[humble oracle]

what do you meaaaan

............

ING NOT ED

this is... insanity

[young elk]

please explain this

[flint meadow]

He means doing the Data mining yourself isnt allowed to be discussed

[weak coral]

explain the past tense

[flint meadow]

I think

[humble oracle]

you cant data mine

you can talk about mined content

[undone compass]

alright

stop

sheesh

[unkempt osprey]

thats it lets talk about datamining statistics

[flint meadow]

[undone compass]

1. the wiki will not go private as long as i am an admin

2. datamined stats are allowed on the wiki, and by association datamining for those stats is allowed

[flint meadow]

It shouldn’t go private.

[undone compass]

im not against having some sort of "private" wiki chat that you need a role for, so that we can discuss some plans more in depth, cause i know this channel can sometimes get interrupted or other things can happen

but that role would be very publicly available to anyone who asked

[flint meadow]

Well I was thinking of a server?

[undone compass]

nah

[weak coral]

you're bananas

[flint meadow]

Similar to the GTFO modding server

Make it public

[undone compass]

you can make your own server if you want, im not joining or helping with it though

all my wiki stuff is staying in this server

[flint meadow]

Alright then

Your the boss

Idea cut

[undone compass]

i mean not really

i said you can do it if you want

but i want to keep my wiki contributions and discussions to here

[flint meadow]

Well I don’t wanna do it without your surveillance

[undone compass]

and i guess chases dms but thats just cause we are saucy admins

[flint meadow]

ChaseSauce

[undone compass]

you dont need my surveillance

[weak coral]

you mean input

[flint meadow]

^

[undone compass]

right

i mean you dont neeed that either

unless its something like changing the entire layout of the enemies page or something

[flint meadow]

I think it’s fine as is

Lol

[weak coral]

that wasn't the point of what he said

[flint meadow]

Ik

It was an example

[weak coral]

I'm glad things could be clarified

[unkempt osprey]

hows the datamining statistics coming along?

[weak coral]

good luck with wiki editing

[flint meadow]

All tho I did notice that a lot of our pages arent like

Similar

[undone compass]

you mean the discussion or the actual mining?

[flint meadow]

We should decide on a specific look at specific content sections

Certain enemy pages have content sections more then others

[hollow ingot]

You guys are literally arguing over 3 characters

[flint meadow]

All pages should have-

Pffffff

D0c have you just been watching this whole time

[hollow ingot]

You can datamine weapon stats and shit and put it up

[weak coral]

I understand where he got the misconception

[hollow ingot]

you can use already datamined weapons stats and shit and put it up

ther'es no difference between having it already datamined, and doing the datamining yourself

[hollow ingot]

no

[flint meadow]

Makes sense

[weak coral]

I don't see why you got lost before then

[flint meadow]

Well idk Frosty called me out on it

And then it went down hill

[hollow ingot]

Like why would there be a different in how the stats became available, whether someone else did the datamining and gave it to you, or you doing it. it's from the same place and going to the same place

[weak coral]

and he was wrong, I'm glad we could clarify for you

[flint meadow]

Theres no finger pointing yhi

Don’t point people beep

It’s fine

Mistakes happen

[unkempt osprey]

arent u point fingers right now?

[weak coral]

I just dislike the spread of misinformation

I have no other input

[flint meadow]

Ive done that myself by mistake

Kinda like how I put 8 damage instead of 3.51

[hollow ingot]

ditto. i'd rather have the info be accurate

[flint meadow]

Ditto?

[weak coral]

👍

[flint meadow]

The pokemon?

What

[undone compass]

I-

[flint meadow]

Whats ditto?

[unkempt osprey]

sunshine and butterfly

[smoky hamlet]

Basically means “agreed”

[flint meadow]

Huh

[smoky hamlet]

Outside of the Pokémon context

[flint meadow]

Never heard that before

[flint meadow]

Ignore my dumb french brain

[flint meadow]

I had never heard that used before interesting to know it’s an actual word

[hollow ingot]

[flint meadow]

Also D0c

Im very happy with this rundown

Like hell happy

It’s great

[uncut bloom]

Ditto is best pokemon

[humble oracle]

the post in #rules says edited

[hollow ingot]

your reactions have been shared with the entire company btw

[flint meadow]

@hollow ingot also im unsure if you are aware but the Overload objective mission in D1 is currently bugged when you enter the zone for it no objective shows up and the only way people figure out how to do it is by checking the terminal in the zone and putting in “COMMANDS”

Double ping oops

[flint meadow]

How so?

[humble oracle]

you can also skip ALL of overload

and just to it after main

[hollow ingot]

wiki has some slightly different rules than on the discord itself

[humble oracle]

just walk in.. grab the key.. and leave

[flint meadow]

Yeah thats what I did

All tho we had like

5 of the new enemies

No ammo

And no other enemies

[undone compass]

btw we are already doing one of these with calle at some point in the future, and probably more after that so yknow

[hollow ingot]

we're aware of d1 overload, it's intended you actually run the command at the start, and we'll be patching that cheese. we hope people have integrity to do it legit

[flint meadow]

Sweet

[humble oracle]

thats not really slight if it's ban-able here but not there.

[undone compass]

?

[flint meadow]

Oops I was unaware but ill redo it eventually if it’s comforting tho I had to melee 5 ||Dogs|| because we where all out of ammo and couldnt get in the scan zone

Lmao

[undone compass]

what do you think the difference between the wiki rules on dataminng and the servers rules on datamining are?

[hollow ingot]

i'd recommend DMing @sacred lodge so the mods and calle can discuss in more details with you since this channel is moving fast and i think there's some serious misunderstanding going on

[undone compass]

or if d0c would prefer do that

[flint meadow]

Could we end the whole mining thing it’s already been clarified?

[flint meadow]

But yeah what did you mean by that?

[undone compass]

oop

wrong rule

[flint meadow]

Also D1 took me 4h35 mins

[flint meadow]

[hollow ingot]

a few comments you made about your excitement at certain things have been shared. be happy, it's a good thing

[flint meadow]

Oh im glad to hear it

[humble oracle]

? sus

[flint meadow]

Im also glad to see the community is happy with a lot of the optimization

All tho there is always going to be complaints thats inevitable

[humble oracle]

wdym? #gtfo-technical-support is a nightmare. i've been having issues with entire levels being impossible to launch with crashing and memory leaks

[flint meadow]

Omg Frosty

Generalization

Thats what im doing

A lot of people not everyone

A lot of the community* is what I shouldve said

[hollow ingot]

we're also looking into those issues, the memory and crashing. it's the weekend and when we get back to the office on monday we'll continue working towards fixing various issues

[flint meadow]

Also the audio bug is still there

It muffles all the sounds after checkpoint reload

[humble oracle]

i think there is a new one too. when the jerry grabs you your audio is forever muffled.

but that one is a bit inconsistant

[flint meadow]

Ive heard about screen being completely covered

[humble oracle]

the black dot?

[flint meadow]

No

Tentacles

[humble oracle]

yeah

jerry is first encountered in c1

he is fucking horrifying

[flint meadow]

Mhm

[humble oracle]

devs did an amazing job

[flint meadow]

IKR

He scared the fuck out of me

Did not expect that

Actually yelled

Took me a solid 5 mins to recover from that lol

Bit sad I got spoilered for E1 tho

But whatever

[tough lynx]

If we have an audio log that has the transcript displayed as a text (and nothing else), would it be better to include a picture of that in game transcript? I left those out for R6 because they don't offer any additional info.
Example is a log from R7A1:
||https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/gtfo_gamepedia_en/images/7/78/R7A1Log3.png/revision/latest?cb=20220618193534||

[flint meadow]

I fixed Machine Gun stats

Same for Navigation Box for tools

put the shotgun sentry instead of auto

Does the shotgun sentry still do back damage?

no right?

[hollow ingot]

no sentries should do more damage from behind

[flint meadow]

kk

also what does DoT mean

||Pouncer damage||

Damage over time nvm

Also when would it be possible to get clean pictures of the new boi from you D0c?

[supple vessel]

im stuck with the Recycle group 7a42 comand

what do i type in to the terminal

[undone compass]

you have to type it on a terminal in another zone

im only 12 hours late to this hope youre still in the game just waiting

[candid isle]

XD i got confused by that one too

[flint meadow]

Lmfao

[crimson lion]

Was gonna tell them last night but I was 2 hours late so I decided they were probs past it

[stable spire]

question

is HEL gun a rifle or a carbine

it has short barrel

._.

[austere heart]

Hunters have a list of aliases a mile long at this point. Snatchers, jerries, grabbers, pouncers, hunters. Do we even have a page for em yet? (Doubt it, but maybe)

[flint meadow]

A page for the enemy?

Or the names

Lol

[austere heart]

The enemy

And the names

[flint meadow]

Yeah thats done already

I also updated all the navigation boxes

The enemy is in the spoiler part but theres 2 spoilers

Could we get pictures of the new weapons for the wiki?

@hollow ingot aren’t the weapon pictures for the wiki pulled off directly from the game files for the ones used by the weapon selection menu?

[hollow ingot]

i think you guys are using the ones in the appdata folder where the game log files are, there's an icons folder

[flint meadow]

Kk

Ill need em for the wiki then

Someone upload it to the wiki

@coral lichen can you do HC Pistol

[coral lichen]

let me finish writing the page for the PDW

[flint meadow]

Kk

Was gonna do that but yeah

[coral lichen]

if you want to do it yourself they are under
C:\Users\<USER>\AppData\LocalLow\10 Chambers Collective\GTFO\GeneratedIcons

[flint meadow]

Not on my pc rn

[flint meadow]

There I did the HC Pistol but the Description could use more juice

Thx

How do you redirect?

Got it

[coral lichen]

Yo, I want to add more info for the sentry guns but I can't add more lines to the info box. They just don't show up in the actual info box if I attempt to add them, regardless of if I use source edit or not. Can we add the following to the info boxes for sentries?

• detection range
• detection speed
• lock on speed

[flint meadow]

I think I can do that

[undone compass]

I hope you can cause I don’t think I know how still

[flint meadow]

Soy bad at wiki confirmed?

Soy the ultimate rat

[undone compass]

Cry about it

[flint meadow]

Been lying about being wiki admin all along

[undone compass]

Should have known from day 1 I don’t know what I’m doing

[flint meadow]

Lmfao

Soys just crying in a corner

Unaware of what he as gotten himself into

[undone compass]

Close

[flint meadow]

But still just hitting heads

[undone compass]

I’m on my break and I do happen to be in the corner rn

But not crying

[flint meadow]

Close enough

[undone compass]

Too hot to waste the hydration

[coral lichen]

Can't you just edit the template for all the info boxes and add more fields? Or does that not work

[flint meadow]

Lick them tears back up

Hang on i think I know how

[undone compass]

I think so, problem is fuck knows which info box is which

It’s confusing either because I’m stupid or because when they were made they weren’t properly organised

[flint meadow]

Hang on nnn

[coral lichen]

Probably the latter. It looks like it was just left as the default template
The "Infobox" template doesn't yet have a description, but there might be some information on the template's page.

It just directs here https://gtfo.fandom.com/wiki/Template:Infobox

[flint meadow]

Im figuring shit out

[undone compass]

I’ll check more in depth when I get home

On admin side

[flint meadow]

Think I got it no need

[coral lichen]

Yeah I see now. I think anyone can edit the base template

Probably should lock that down in the future

[flint meadow]

@coral lichen can I just name it Detection

Or do you want detection range

[undone compass]

A lot of stuff should probably be locked

But meh, admins aren’t really active enough to justify all of it

Might do the info box though

[flint meadow]

Bu-

[coral lichen]

I'll just do it cause it will be faster

[undone compass]

I mean you’ve got another 3.5 hours so I’m sure you can add what khepri is asking for lol

Or that

[coral lichen]

Soy can ban me later or smth for breaking a rule

[flint meadow]

There

I got it

@coral lichen i did it

Alright

It’s done

Just like you asked

• Lock on speed
• Detection Range
• Detection Speed

[coral lichen]

ty

[flint meadow]

Np

@undone compass if you plan on locking stuff tho you shouldnt lock any of the codes that can have values added like that one if so you could probably make roles to give to people who know how to add those things so people can just ask them to add that info

[coral lichen]

also @undone compass could I please have the wiki logs role or whatever it is

[flint meadow]

U don’t have it?

@brave citrus would it be possible to integrate the roadmap to the wiki actually?

[quiet thunder]

Gave it to ya since Soy is at work atm

[brave citrus]

In what way?

[flint meadow]

Like integrate a section that would have the GTFO roadmap all tho since the roadmap isnt updated often (sadly) wouldnt make a huge different but I think people would like it?

I do wish the road map gets updated whenever theres some progress so we can known what to expect and when to expect it

[brave citrus]

I don't know how that connection would be made

[flint meadow]

I mean doesn’t have to be automatic I could easily should build some sort of graph that can easily be filled in with a simple value change

To like change the colors of the dots or change the upcoming rundown or whatever

[flint meadow]

@undone compass i made a uh nomenclature for the weapons page so they can all be the same

https://gtfo.fandom.com/wiki/User_talk:Killaxww#How_to_make_Weapons_page_for_the_GTFO_wiki.

Could this be pinned?

Would be useful if we followed this guide so that all the weapon pages all have the same look

Because currently it’s pretty messy

Pretty sure it contains all the info needed

Worse case I can update it

[undone compass]

whyd you put it on your talk page? 🤨

sandbox would make more sense

well i guess there isnt actually any difference

and that is a good idea

[flint meadow]

Yeah

[undone compass]

we should make a single page just with all the "templates" for different pages

[flint meadow]

Agreed

[undone compass]

like enemies, weapons, etc

[flint meadow]

I always wanna like

Make a history section

[undone compass]

yeahh

me and chase also talked about adding change lists to the wiki

[flint meadow]

So like Machine Gun has a whole history of changes

[flint meadow]

That

Literally that lol

History = Changes

Asked mod mail if I could get like all the patch notes to see like the weapon stat changes

What do you think of the nomenclature I made for weapons tho?

[undone compass]

https://gtfo.fandom.com/wiki/Layout_Guides

badabing badaboom

[undone compass]

looks good

[flint meadow]

Your d*ck is now a noodle

[undone compass]

hee hee

oh one thing you missed

is a gallery

[flint meadow]

OH RIGHT

Lmao oops

[undone compass]

easy to forgor

[flint meadow]

Can I like

Add categories

Only in the layout guides

Did you make it a group

[undone compass]

no?

its just a page currently

[undone compass]

also for this im not sure if you pinged calle cause you thought hed know how to or if you wanted his permission, but i dont think he knows much about the wiki and we also dont really need permission to use something that is publicly available

i mean if he wants us not to put it on the wiki then we wont but i dont think hed mind

[undone compass]

also tanks

[flint meadow]

Working on it rq

Done

@undone compass that work?

[undone compass]

for now ye

when we add more to that page we can make each one collapsable and add a table of contents

but thats future stuff

[flint meadow]

True

Ima rework machine gun

@undone compass do you think adding a recommendation section would be too similar to the tip section?

Because right now for tips Ive got,

-coordinate with your team when to reload
-have a reliable backup weapon to defend yourself when caught off guard
-do small burst fires to counter the recoil and not waste ammo

Thinking of some other stuff

[undone compass]

what things do you have im mind for recommendations

[flint meadow]

Stuff like optimal maps since certain maps have good spots like high up shooting down at a bridge

Thats when mg works great since they are decently far leaving u time to reload and ur free to cut down the wave

Im just wondering whether calling it tips or recommendations at that point

[undone compass]

i think id just put that in tips

a recommendation is kinda just a tip

[flint meadow]

Yeah

But a tip is small

Compared to a recommendation

[undone compass]

i guess

but eh tips section sounds better than recommendation section

and we shouldnt make pages too long

[flint meadow]

True

[hushed plume]

which one do we like better

[autumn oxide]

well 1 won by a landslide

[stable spire]

am I the only one think 2 is better?

🤔

[hasty matrix]

I feel like you could combine both aspects of 1 and 2.
1 has deeper colours when compared to 2 for example.

[opaque mortar]

Great job on wiki do far. But I cant see Hel shotgun

[flint meadow]

It’s dine

Done

It’s not on the main page yet

I think

But if you click any weapon and scroll down it ahould be there

[opaque mortar]

Consider adding info about Heavy assault recoil. Players should use single fire or 3 round bursts to earn best resoults. I know this is obvious for us, but not for newbies

[lyric cedar]

Just finished the weapons data sheet for R7, sorry if this isn't the right place but figured it could be handy: https://www.reddit.com/r/GTFO/comments/vh3t14/rundown_7_weapon_stats_spreadsheet/?

[coral lichen]

Is there anyway to automate updating some of the pages? Updating things like the precision multi page as well as the actual gun pages every time there is a change seems inefficient

Is it possible to pull info to auto fill from the info boxes?

[undone compass]

@hushed plume weren’t you thinking of something like that at some point

Or am I projecting

[flint meadow]

Thank you

[flint meadow]

Yeah I was wondering that im pretty sure it would be possible. You could probably make it so the wiki pulls it’s data off of something like that GTFO spread sheet using some coding but im not sure if it’s worth figuring all that out it’s not too hard to change all the values and they change every couple months when they release a new rundown

@hushed plume also THANK you for updating all the pictures I noticed they had changed all the weapon looks for Rundown 7 and I forgot to do it so thx

I love the new metallic polish for the guns now

But yeah I think automating it might be possible but it’s probably not worth the troubles

[hushed plume]

i’ll figure it out

[flint meadow]

o7

Good luck

Wait so

Why do we wanna automate it?

[flint meadow]

Wdym by precision multiplier change?

[coral lichen]

it's just an example of something. There is a page for precision multipliers, where it lists weapons below, at, or above 1.0 precision. It would be far easier to just pull data from infoboxes to auto categorize the weapons. This way if a precision multi changes, like how the carbine did this rundown, we don't have to manually update the weapon and also manually update every page where that weapons precision multi is referenced

[flint meadow]

OH

Yeah thats total possible I think

Im sure there is a way

[candid isle]

we gonna do a poll for the monster names once the 2 week spoiler period is done?

just curious, I kinda liked snatcher

no offense killa :3

[flint meadow]

It’s obviously gonna be snatcher

Sadly

[candid isle]

well, knowing the community, I hope "Jerry" doesn't actually show up on the poll

[keen flame]

tagger

[flint meadow]

Well it has way too many names

It won’t be called Pouncer

So it’s probably gonna be Snatcher

I just call them dogs or crawlers

I just updated the pictures also

Ah oops

Infobox image sizes are fucked

Let me fix that rq

[undone compass]

who knows what we'll call it

[flint meadow]

Fixed all infobox sizes

[candid isle]

i'm just running thru the pages and doing general grammar cleanups (not on logs obviously)

[flint meadow]

Since when u work on wiki

[candid isle]

since i saw a bunch of grammar errors and got triggered by them

[flint meadow]

Lol

Im gonna have to redo all the weapon pages to have the same nomenclature

[candid isle]

should I just tick the "minor edit" box?

[flint meadow]

For grammer fixes?

[candid isle]

ye

grammar and clarity (e.g. Rundown 3 => Rundown 003)

[flint meadow]

Also don’t bother changing anything rn

[candid isle]

oh ok 👍

[flint meadow]

Planning on redoing all enemy, weapon, tools and etc pages

Gonna set a set in stone page nomenclature so everything fits

[candid isle]

;-; oh, well then

[flint meadow]

Lol

Just look at the disinfection station page

I redid that a while back

But it’s ancient

[undone compass]

i mean there is no reason to not correct grammar

even if the pages are gonna be redone

they arent redone yet

[candid isle]

I must go, the grammar needs me

[flint meadow]

Well im literally gonna delete the whole weapon pages and redo all the info in them

Not delete the actual page delete the info on the page

And redo it

[undone compass]

are you doing it right now?

or are you like gonna do it very soon

[flint meadow]

Yeah soon

Like tmr or after tmr

[flint meadow]

@lyric cedar thx for the sheet but also ive one shot with HEL Shotgun before

Pretty sure at least

You gotta like get it in the back

Who added that Assault Rifle trivia?

[undone compass]

Who knows

[flint meadow]

It’s too long

[undone compass]

I don’t think that’s the only issue lol

[flint meadow]

Whats the issue then

[undone compass]

It’s pretty much just speculation

[flint meadow]

Lol

Agreed

Yeah ima remove that

Hey wh-

It saved without me doing anything bruh

[undone compass]

I see their point but unless a dev confirmed it I wouldn’t put it there

[flint meadow]

Funny R

The Funny R

Was gonna put a reason for removing it

[undone compass]

R

[flint meadow]

But PC decided R would do

[undone compass]

[flint meadow]

Could we change Rundown names from like Rundown 002 to Rundown 2.0?

Well ehhh

Cuz until rundown 6 it was always 00X a now it’s X.0

X being a random number

[tough lynx]

I just have this screenshot for Glp-2 for now ^^

[flint meadow]

Well I was thinking

Fuck the number

Just call em GLP Canisters

Since it’s the exact same thing but with a different name

Keep the part where it’s like

Added GLP-2 caninsters but just redirect to a page called GLP Canisters

No yes no?

Verdict?

[tough lynx]

hm, yeah that works

[flint meadow]

Done

It’s cleaner but it would also work well if we just added GLP-2

[undone compass]

eh

i think we should have separate pages personally

[flint meadow]

You think?

[undone compass]

yeahh?

i just dont really see a reason to combine them

[flint meadow]

Laziness

[undone compass]

fair reason

but still i think we should make a seperate page

[coral lichen]

If we are going to make one page I’d rather put all gathering objects there too cause they are essentially all the same objective

Otherwise split it for consistency’s sake

[flint meadow]

Fair point

[lyric cedar]

Yeah, from behind I definitely believe it, but practically, it’s pretty rare. I just feel like putting 1 there would be misleading.

[flint meadow]

But wait the HEL shotgun in no circumstance should be able to get one shot from the front unless it’s in the head

[weak coral]

what's the reason for not using the name pouncer?

also, to clarify, the pouncer has a damage resistance when shot at the head

the only other damage modifier is the global back damage multiplier

[coral lichen]

the wider community calls it the snatcher

[weak coral]

that's an entirely different enemy

[coral lichen]

it simply isn't

[weak coral]

it simply is

[tough lynx]

There are plans to have a vote on new enemy names anyway so its not super important rn

[undone compass]

Even if more people call it snatcher, people shouldn’t just change the name of an enemy on the whole wiki

At least not without asking about it first

[weak coral]

the original name was the pouncer

we can leave it at that until the community vote

[undone compass]

hmm

do we want to start having aliases for things which are not enemies?

[sacred lodge]

A vote has been requested by Soy#8008

Hello <@&966836304581132309>

[flint meadow]

It’s unoriginal because it’s it’s name in the game files

D0c gonna be angy

[flint meadow]

Like medipacks are meds?

[flint meadow]

Thatsssss a huge debate

It’s very unclear if it is or isnt

Id say best action would just be to name it something else justttttt in case the “real snatcher” comes along

Notice my quotes

[coral lichen]

better rename the immortal then just incase the "real immortal" comes along

[undone compass]

well the reason i ask is cause someone added an alias to the trip mine consumable page

so i guess anything other than enemies

i wouldnt have too much of a debate about names for now

[flint meadow]

I swear Soy you just emit your own energy

The Soy energy

[undone compass]

we are gonna be doing the form with calle soonish so depending on how that goes we'll go from there

thanks i try having fun

[flint meadow]

Thats different

Snatcher was a taken name for years

[coral lichen]

so was immortal

both were in the files for many rundowns

[flint meadow]

No…?

Well it was never really mentionned

Snatcher was that one long tentacle that grabbed you in the face

I have never heard any mentions of the immortal until this very rundown

[coral lichen]

ah yes, the one in the pre alpha game awards trailer

[flint meadow]

Snatcher I have

Yeah

That one

[coral lichen]

where literally nothing from the game looks the same

[undone compass]

we actually have a page for that

[flint meadow]

^

Thats the thing

[undone compass]

https://gtfo.fandom.com/wiki/Tentacle

its called tentacle

not snatcher

[flint meadow]

It’s just cuz the name Snatcher is like the OG name

[flint meadow]

Wasnt it named Snatcher at some point?

[undone compass]

i know schaeffer refers to a snatcher at some point

[flint meadow]

Yeah

Also Kephri why you aggressive with everything

[undone compass]

but some of his other dialogue insinuates that this enemy is not the snatcher

as far as i know

[weak coral]

this is true

[undone compass]

ive not dug too deep into the lore

[coral lichen]

because I hate this game

[flint meadow]

I think everybody knows at this point

[undone compass]

i respect the hustle of editing the wiki of a game you hate

[flint meadow]

Lol

[undone compass]

but why?

[flint meadow]

^

It’s a love hate relationship

Clearly

[coral lichen]

its like tyler one. "I hate the game, but I'm fucking addicted"

[flint meadow]

Pfffffff

Kephri as Tyler one confirmed

[undone compass]

thats fair

[weak coral]

Lore-wise, it'd be weird if Schaeffer knew what the Snatcher was but couldn't identify what grabbed Maddox

[flint meadow]

Pretty sure Schaeffer-

Actually yk what

duck is here

Lmfao

Ill let him talk about lore

[tough lynx]

Soy, do you have the logo of HeliForm lying around already like the tool-pack gears symbol?

[flint meadow]

The what now

[undone compass]

one sec

[flint meadow]

HeliForm?

[tough lynx]

"new" company in R7

[flint meadow]

Oh I havent heard that

[undone compass]

nah dont think i do

only have the map symbols pretty much

[flint meadow]

Ive been super busy lately havent actually had time to play GTFO

[undone compass]

curtesy of chase

[flint meadow]

But im mostly done with all my stuff

[undone compass]

what is the logo?

[tough lynx]

https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/gtfo_gamepedia_en/images/a/aa/CollectionCase_Carried.png/revision/latest?cb=20220622145909
the flower like thingy next to the name

[undone compass]

ahh

nah i aint got that

[tough lynx]

bit bigger in the bottom left

[undone compass]

i can see if my "connections" can get me it though

[flint meadow]

I swear

Soy is the rat king

Soy the rat king

[undone compass]

why rat king

[flint meadow]

Because you have a bunch of rats

Working for you

And you are a rat

[undone compass]

bit harsh

but aight

[flint meadow]

Rat is just a term I use

Goblin creatures

Little demons

Idk

It’s a term I got hooked on watching a certain youtuber

And playing certain games

Rat

Pretty much Rat is my equivalent of D0c’s bucket

Put the rat in the bucket

[hasty matrix]

Drifter moment.

[flint meadow]

Hm?

[vast patrol]

Has anyone ever documented all of the weapon manufacturers and what weapons/tools they produce

[undone compass]

i actually spoke to chase about that

idea was just add them to the minor companies page

since some of them made other stuff too

[tough lynx]

Ray put them in a neat list on the database
https://www.notion.so/5ea1e16ac89f420f9347e385d5d66c07?v=b21b541d545c47759588a1656292db13
But yeah maybe a good idea to add them to the other companies

[vast patrol]

Oh neat

I find myself looking through the wiki to see what companies make what guns surprisingly often

But it’s annoying to do so without a page specifically for it since you need to bounce all over the place

So this will be handy

[undone compass]

how would we like to organise it

just like the weapons page? but organised by company

or maybe just a table

[vast patrol]

I was basically thinking a list of companies that shows what weapons/gear they made underneath it and some sort of summary of the kind of gear they seem to specialize in

At least, that’s the sort of info I usually look for but I’m probably an edge case

[undone compass]

you know any examples of a wiki with that kinda format?

cause i kinda get what youre saying but i might be thinking something different actually

[flint meadow]

Im pretty sure the biggest manufacturer is buckland

[undone compass]

allow me to check

Shelling 2
Van auken 2
Hanaway 2
Malatack 3
Accrat 3
Bataldo 2
buckland 4
mastaba 2
koning 1
techman 3
drekker 3
sanmtonian 1
kovac 1
maco 1
raptus 2
omneco 2

you were correct

[flint meadow]

Fuck im cool

Goddddd I love myself

This is what makes me sleep well at night

/j

[flint meadow]

Surprised I memorized that so well lmao

I can actually name you any weapon just by having a couple of it’s stats

[undone compass]

Shelling 2: Shelling S49 Pistol Shelling Arid 5 High Caliber Pistol
Van auken 2: Van Auken LTC 5 SMG Van Auken CAB F4 Carbine
Hanaway 2: TR22 Hanaway DMR Hanaway PSB Double Tap Rifle
Malatack 3: Malatack LX Assault Rifle Malatack HXC Heavy Assault Rifle Malatack CH 4 Burst Rifle
Accrat 3: Accrat Golok DA Bullpup Rifle Accrat STB PDW Accrat ND6 Heavy SMG
Bataldo 2: Bataldo 3RB HEL Revolver Bataldo J 300 Hel Shotgun
buckland 4: Buckland S870 Shotgun Buckland XDIST2 Choke Mod Shotgun Buckland SBS III Sawed-off Shotgun Buckland AF6 Combat Shotgun
mastaba 2: Mastaba R66 Revolver Mastaba Fixed Blade Knife
koning 1: Köning PR 11 Sniper
techman 3: Techman Veruta XII Machine Gun Techman Klust 6 Burst Cannon Techman Arbalist V Machine Gun
drekker 3: Drekker Del P1 Precision Rifle Drekker Pres MOD 556 Rifle Drekker INEX Drei Scattergun
santonian 1: Santonian HDH Sledgehammer
kovac 1: Kovac Peacekeeper Bat
maco 1: Maco Drillhead Spear
raptus 2: Raptus Steigro Autopistol Raptus Treffen 2 Machine Pistol
omneco 2: Omneco LRG HEL Rifle Omneco EXP1 HEL Gun
D-tek 1: D-tek Optron IV Bio Tracker
Stalwart 1: Stalwart Flow G2 C-Foam Launcher
Krieger 1: Krieger 04 Mine Deployer
Mechatronic 2: Mechatronic SGB3 Burst Sentry Mechatronic B5 LFR Shotgun Sentry
RAD 1: RAD Labs Meduza Auto Sentry
Autotek 1: Autotek 51 RSG Sniper Sentry

full list

ew

[flint meadow]

Messy huh

[undone compass]

slightly cleaner

[flint meadow]

Wait

Nvm im stupid

[vast patrol]

Fwiw the hel revolver’s name got changed to Bataldo 3RB at some point

Most likely when rundown 6 released

I think this might have been by mistake

[undone compass]

funky

just realised i forgot tools

im less sure about the company names for them but meh

[flint meadow]

I don’t recall ever seeing any of the tools in any minor companies

[undone compass]

huh?

[undone compass]

alright well theyre added

kinda ugly but it works

also gtfo lore chat dont kill me if i said something that is wrong

[hushed plume]

the cold never bothered me anyway

[tough lynx]

@undone compass 😡

jk btw

[undone compass]

ewps

dont mind my illiteracy

[tough lynx]

I'll forgive you

[undone compass]

i knew i shouldnt have used my own spelling when i knew that i just bashed the keyboard while typing the spreadsheet

[tough lynx]

Tbf the devs still use Kovak in game so maybe you aren't even wrong 😄

[flint meadow]

Mans obsessed with speculations

@acoustic wing relax on the speculations please

Speculations arent meant to be on a wiki

@undone compass

“tungston”

[tough lynx]

Now I feel bad for Soy 😦

[flint meadow]

Rad Labs section

[hushed plume]

@undone compass

you need to

do

um

[flint meadow]

Rats

[hushed plume]

apparel manufacturers

[flint meadow]

Oh damn ur right

[tough lynx]

oh god

[hushed plume]

just do a devious lick

[tough lynx]

Are there even any new companies who made the apparel? I don't know the new apparel names but the old ones are either Santonian, Kovac, Insight or some random word in the front.

[flint meadow]

Covarex

No?

[tough lynx]

Convex Falcon Mark I
always thought thats just the name of the actual helmet, not a company called "Convex" that build them

[flint meadow]

Yooo what company made the Oblique Tigris

[tough lynx]

Oblique

[flint meadow]

Isnt it written like that?

[tough lynx]

Yeah was just a joke that the company has to be named "Oblique" then ^^

[flint meadow]

Ohhhhhh

Lmao

I wonder if they gonna make more limited time masks

Halloween would be cool

Straight up

Would pay like 40$

For a GTFO golden cosmetic palette

Ill buy the game again just to get a golden palette

Honest to god

Also I find it funny that the gamer pink is like the default color almost now

Other palettes arent as flashy

It’s all way too tactical being like camo shit

I have noticed the piss palette tho

[undone compass]

i mean when there is nothing concrete about something its alright to do a little speculation with common sense based on real life parallels

as long as you specify it is only speculation

[undone compass]

😃

what did i do wrong

or was it just the tongue stone spelling

[humble oracle]

can some one ping me when the wiki name poll for Jerry is? ty

[tough lynx]

What would be a good category name for the Floodways and Gardens environments? Storage, Refinery and Digsite have "Mining Environments" and Datacenter + Lab have "Research Environments".
I was thinking about "Overgrown Environments" but that's not really descriptive for their functions.

[formal mason]

Overgrown sounds good to me. I think it will be difficult to group those two by a common function

[coral lichen]

Greenhouse environments or botanical environments

Pretty much anything relating to plants will work I think

[tough lynx]

Plant Environments

[coral lichen]

🤯

[tough lynx]

I'm just gonna go with Overgrown for now, would be a 20 sec change anyway ^^

[weak coral]

Don't forgot about the destroyed environment

Unless you also just want to categorize that as data center

[tough lynx]

Is that something new in R7? Haven't seen all levels yet, so I wouldn't know

[weak coral]

Overgrown seemingly only describes gardens more than floodways

[tough lynx]

Good point but I would argue that floodways definitely has more plants/moss on the walls than other ones.

(although labs also has a bunch of plants 😅 )

[weak coral]

That's how finicky trying to give a general name to environments that share tile sets is

[tough lynx]

Concrete Walls Environments, there found the perfect name

[weak coral]

The dry, tech, and wet environments

[undone compass]

Where did the other names of environment categories come from?

[tough lynx]

Seems like somebody just wrote them down

[undone compass]

Hmm

I know of a name for floodways and garden but I’m not sure if it’s just chases own name for it or if it’s somin else

Oh well, cant change it for another few days anyway

Overgrown is good though

[hushed plume]

wot

ohhh

[undone compass]

yea

[weak coral]

updated everyone's model on their character page and gave their gallery images captions

edit as anyone sees fit

[acoustic wing]

im getting a pic for glp-2 canisters

[weak coral]

does anyone know if the cosmetics that formerly dropped on an 6 criteria completion (i.e. complete overload get lugubrious) still drop this rundown?

[undone compass]

I think i remember seeing somewhere that only the tiger whatjamacallit mask is the only exclusive but that might be wrong

[weak coral]

tiger and double blade are the technical exclusives

but I'm wondering if those dedicated drops are still dedicated

[acoustic wing]

I may be mistaken but has the glow stick proximity condition returned? saw a booster with it the other day.

[flint meadow]

who tf is removing our trivia

[cold storm]

Which one, the outright false trivia regarding the big mom not being found sleeping in levels, or the non-informative bit about a Discord role on an enemy page?

[acoustic wing]

@cold storm Trivia doesn’t have to be useful. Hence the name “Trivia”

But the false trivia about the big mom should be removed

The trivia for the hybrid quite literally compares it to rabbits.

[cold storm]

I did remove it, and trivia sections still need to be relevant to the page, they're only there to present information that doesn't fit in any other section of the article.

[flint meadow]

what

I fixed the issue

Trivia is meant for just fun little facts

not usual information

if u wanna add useful information either shove it in Strategies or in Tips like I just did

no need to get fighting cuz of it since thats never gonna end well

[cold storm]

I suggest you familiarize yourself on what "trivia" actually means and consider revising it, but I'm not going to get into an editing war with you.

[flint meadow]

"details, considerations, or pieces of information of little importance or value."

not gonna add anything else but all im saying is we meant to use Trivia as outside information from the game

For example

for the pistol page

we added that its Simon's favorite weapon

which isnt relevant to the game

it doesnt really matter anyways we are discussing about redoing all the pages soon to use a nomenclature

well ive been discussing it and im working on that currently and will probably be done with most if not all by next week

[cold storm]

If you go by the first definition you see on Google sure, lmao. If you're actually going by Fandomwiki or Mediawiki standards, trivia should pertain to information that cannot be neatly categorized within the scope of the page.

[flint meadow]

sighhhhhhh yk I often come off as rude when im not using any aggression or am not tryna be rude so im just gonna cut the convo here and go back to playing the game

[cold storm]

and it's good you're considering redoing all of the pages, because there's a ton of em' with poor formatting, I notice a lot of enemy pages tend to overuse hyperlinks

[flint meadow]

yeah thats why ive been discussing it

nvm

dw about it

not worth it

[cold storm]

I've been editing the wiki since 2020, and I believe I provided a sufficient explanation, but that's why we have this chat to discuss the changes 😄

[acoustic wing]

Wait, is the scout page for everything pertaining to scouts, or just what's mentioned in-game?

[limpid ravine]

@flint meadow what are the health of shadow scouts

cause it isnt 42

[flint meadow]

no

[flint meadow]

uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

pretty sure its 42

same as scout

[limpid ravine]

Precision Rifle To the back of the SScout head did not kill it

PR back of head dmg is 44

[coral lichen]

pr back of head damage is higher than that

[flint meadow]

probably missed

[limpid ravine]

we didnt miss

it's head blew up

[flint meadow]

well ya did smt wrong

[coral lichen]

they have 42 hp

[flint meadow]

if its head blew up it should be dead

llmao

[coral lichen]

they pull from the same stats that a normal scout does

[limpid ravine]

nope

SScouts can live without their head

[flint meadow]

a scout cant live without a head

[limpid ravine]

wrong

Sscouts can

[coral lichen]

then you desynced to hell

[limpid ravine]

ONLY shadow scouts

[flint meadow]

reconsiders life

that

[limpid ravine]

brother, i have done 10 C3 runs with sscouts living without head

TEN

[flint meadow]

doesnt sound quite right tbh

[limpid ravine]

it uses a Striker model

is why

SScouts do not use scout model

[flint meadow]

i mean still

[limpid ravine]

I SAID THE SAME SHIT

it should die on head loss

but it doesnt

[flint meadow]

i was about to do C3

ill check it out

[limpid ravine]

Also, is the Back of a Charger scout Precision?

[coral lichen]

no

[limpid ravine]

What is considered Precision

[coral lichen]

only headshots and tumors on bosses are precision

but shadow scouts cannot live without their head, if it happens it is a bug, likely caused by desync. I have no idea what could possibly be causing it with such consistency for you

[limpid ravine]

it isnt a Desync

trust me

if it happens on 5 different hosts, it is just statistically improbable

[acoustic wing]

Maybe it's your internet

hosting is only half the trvael for inputs

Because yes, it happening on five hosts is almost impossible. But it happening to one person isn't.

[autumn oxide]

oh yeah they have the striker box

i swear he’s right

[weak coral]

yes, shadow scouts are just the shadow striker with enlarged proportions

yes, in the past you could decap them without actually killing them

though I'm unsure if it's still a thing since they changed how hammer damage scales

[flint meadow]

yeah he right

i saw that

couldnt really see it until they adde Thermal Scopes

[limpid ravine]

ha!

[flint meadow]

welp it’s officially Snatcher now

[tough lynx]

Doesn't really matter too much, desert place is called a Dimension in the patch notes because that's just something they use for it and everybody will know what they mean.

[flint meadow]

Yeah fair

[weak coral]

Snatcher still doesn't make sense lore wise

[humble oracle]

what are the stats differences exactly between the r66 revolver and the HiCal

[rocky wolf]

Does the wiki have enemies stagger hp listed anywhere? Or is it just equal to their normal hp?

[tough lynx]

HiCal vs R66
-Dmg (30.1 vs 14.21)
-ammo (29 vs 52 max ammo)
-range (8 meters vs 12 meters).
So HiCal is more dmg with less ammo and shorter range.

[tough lynx]

We don't have those atm and they are not the same as their normal hp.
You can check out this table and scroll down to the enemy stats for their stagger hp values.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Br_2A3n3YDO1v0Kld27KCLvwRYKJqjliyhntoT2NTp4/edit#gid=381478729

And on that note: Should we add the stagger hp to the infobox of enemies? Never thought about that stat too much ^^

[humble oracle]

i think something along the lines of "shots to stagger" would suffice with the non-rundown specific weapons

then they can compare from that with the ones that are new/get rotated

[humble oracle]

ty

[undone compass]

How does stagger go work?

Is it like you need to do that much “stagger damage” and then the enemy will stagger and the hp resets or sumin?

[tough lynx]

That's how I think it works yeah

[weak coral]

That's why some weapons have a stagger multiplier that basically just increases the damage the gun does but only to an enemies stagger hp

It is also why only weapons with a stagger multi are able to stagger birthers (despite it not being intended)

[undone compass]

i assume enemy stagger HP is different to their regular HP?

[humble oracle]

does anybody know at all what cosmetics are still obtainable and what are not? (aside from destination, tigris, early adopter, and twin blade)

[tough lynx]

Yeah Strikers have 5 stagger hp and 20 "regular" hp for example.

[limpid ravine]

This is the shit i want

[ember jasper]

HOW TO KILL CHARGER SCOUT>

?

[limpid ravine]

foam it, smack it

or bring at least 50% melee dmg booster and use hammer on his back, full charge

i used 50+% melee dmg booster on C3 for splendid results

[undone compass]

I’d say ye it should be added then

[crude steeple]

choke mod or high caliber to the back, foam, a friend.

[weak coral]

There are a couple non implemented cosmetics and two bugged ones that either don't work or don't have a drop ID

[weak coral]

you are in luck because I have this useless information as I used some of my free time to make a showcase video on it

Bugged Cosmetics
Chem Wader Hyperseal - id 87 - No drop id
Azul Tinto - id 99 - Bugged/Is supposed to drop on story completion but it does not

[weak coral]

sort of, stagger hp is less of a separate health pool and more of a breakpoint

the only other actual separate health pool is limb health

if stagger hp was a separate health pool, you wouldn't be able to stagger more than once

[tough lynx]

Ok yeah, thats what I meant ^^

[formal mason]

Does a limb break stagger reset the progress towards a normal "stagger"?

[undone compass]

I’m not sure if those are against the “no unreleased data mining” rule, so would you mind getting rid of the unreleased part while I check?

[weak coral]

sure

[weak coral]

that's a good question

in theory it shouldn't since they both take damage differently

but there is a limit to limb stagger

[undone compass]

Do limbs have their own health pool?

[formal mason]

What limit do you mean?

[formal mason]

Yep

[weak coral]

iirc, you can only limb stagger a total of four times

any other limb breakage after that will not stagger

[formal mason]

its kinda noticeable that shadow strikers have more limb hp than regular strikers for example

[weak coral]

so it's either 4 limbs, or 3 limbs and a head

I'd have to reverify this, so take it with a grain until then

but I recall the limit being a thing

[formal mason]

it sounds familiar

[undone compass]

Maybe we should add a limbs section to enemy pages then

[weak coral]

you could probably save everyone time by doing an accumulative damage/health page

there you could dump a damage and health spreadsheet and descriptives on how they work together

[formal mason]

are you familiar with Ereggia's spreadsheet with gun and enemy information?

[undone compass]

I am not

[formal mason]

#guides-and-reviews message

If you're looking for numbers to put on the wiki then this seems like the ideal source of them

[quasi night]

more specifically you can't break more limbs after that

yes limbs have hp, but it's the same for all limbs (sacks included)

limb stagger and hp stagger are different and limb doesn't reset hp afaik

however, hp stagger won't happen if the enemy is already in a stagger animation from either

so you can reset it that way without staggering

meanwhile any stagger can be cancelled into limb stagger

[quasi night]

nope, limb stagger does reset hp stagger

also note that limb stagger is usually more severe and longer in animation

as for limb limit, i believe it varies

4 is probably max for anything except sack enemies

but sometimes it may not be possible to get even 4, can't really check that accurately in code

[weak coral]

usually isn't too big an issue as it really only affects big strikers

and I guess tanks?

[quasi night]

🤔 no?

[weak coral]

4 limbs + head

[quasi night]

tanks only take damage to sacks and don't stagger on limb break anyway

so pretty much big strikers (and perhaps chargers)

[weak coral]

do bullrushers stagger on decap?

[quasi night]

if you want to test if it can get locked at 3, i would suggest going for chest break

[quasi night]

head isn't special in any way on any enemy in terms of stagger (disregarding extra damage on weakspot which does affect stagger)

head, normal limbs, sacks are all limbs

do note that limbs are made of 2 parts usually so it might seem like they have double health

upper&lower arm&leg

but destruction system destroys both when one is destroyed for example

the only use for separating each limb is to mark whether it's weakspot, armored, or normal afaik

(can also separate sacks if you want to note about overkill damage)

[rocky wolf]

is a weapon's base stagger damage the same as the weapon's normal damage? i meant to ask this a few days ago when i asked about enemie's stagger hp (btw thank you for adding that to the enemies' pages)

[tough lynx]

They have a stagger multiplier so their stagger dmg is the dmg dealt (with weakpoints and precision multiplier etc.) X the stagger multiplier

[rocky wolf]

yeah, i knew that part, was why i was asking about the base damage, i.e before the multiplier
but sounds like that is instead the case, didn't know about the weakpoints and precision part too though, tyty

i see in a couple places there are units of measurement, specifically meters, is there any reference for these, i.e comparison to know how far some amount of distance is?

if so, could the exact distances be added where they would be relevant and are missing, like in the "actions that alert sleepers" section of the enemies page, and maybe a page made to add the scale references to

[quasi night]

the most basic way of measuring is either a warden objective item (like neonate) or a sentry

if you just want a stealth guide you can check out ray's guide

[rocky wolf]

oh that's true i hella forgot it shows you distances above markers like that

for the enemies thing i just think it would be useful on the wiki since it says "hitting anything with a melee weapon from a fair distance" is a soft alert versus "a very close distance" being a hard alert

[weak coral]

They changed all the alert ranges in r6 right?

Never really checked, so no clue if all of stealth was the same as it was before release

[quasi night]

No

Stealth has remained mostly untouched since forever

Only change i can remember is bhop removal

[humble oracle]

wiki worthy?

[quasi night]

I pay 0 attention but i get the impression you don't use any mods for wiki screenshots

Is there a reason for that

Devs made an exemption for cinematic mod, maybe that can be used

[crystal veldt]

Probably extra images but it wont take the main image

Main images iirc are preferred to be Sleeping and without hud or weapon visible

[crystal veldt]

Only change I can really see is the unused low noise feature of knife

Since the better you are. The more useless that feature is

[undone compass]

Good point

[humble oracle]

i dont mod at all

[quasi night]

wasn't talking to anyone in particular

just general wiki stuff

[undone compass]

ok so

cinematic mods are allowed for wiki pics as long as its only the cinematic mod being used

[tough lynx]

Neat

[lone egret]

Would be beneficial if melee weapon pages were updated to show which melee weapons you can sprint with while charged

[humble oracle]

what were the buffs to the sniper sentry?

[tough lynx]

Seems like basically everything besides dmg

[worthy vapor]

if you ping enemies then the sniper sentry shoots more efficiently 😳

[grim orchid]

k so what're people using to one shot those armored squiddies? and does the front eye do more damage when its open compared to the back?

[tough lynx]

Back and Eye should receive the same amount of damage. Sniper is the only weapon that can one shot to either weakpoint iirc

[grim orchid]

so can i hit those armor squids reliably with high caliber pistol? sniper rifle looks cool but seems p impractical for up close

stuck on e1 and trying to find a good weapon loadout for the team

[tough lynx]

We brought 1 sniper for e1 but your next best choice is probably either high caliber or precision rifle yeah

[formal mason]

With the sniper sentries we took we barely even saw them come out of their room 🙂

[grim orchid]

just read the sniper sentries use less ammo with biotracked signatures lmao and even more buffs

[flint meadow]

spear is in the way

[humble oracle]

any changes to the STAT differences between the choke mod and the s870?

[tough lynx]

choke mod got 3 more max ammo, thats pretty much it

[weak coral]

different falloff, different damage, different reload speed, different firerate, different bullet cost, different clip size, different shot delay, different spread, different stagger multi

there's a lot different between the guns

[limpid ravine]

the choke outclasses the 870 in almost everything cept magazine compacity(both carry 28 shells max)

[light comet]

might as well grab sniper

[flint meadow]

whats with people and changing it to Snatcher without asking the god damn community first

[light comet]

It's a dog

[hushed plume]

who thought it would be a good idea to use the internal name for it

they don’t even pounce 😭