i saw my team hadn't opened at least 10 lockers
#gtfo-spoiler-chat
mortal granite
crystal oriole
Yelling "AYE GUYSSSS, LITTLE HELP???"
queen field
why tf would they do that
mortal granite
there are 3 zones with resources
and the first zone they haven't even touched any resources
crystal oriole
i saw my team hadn't opened at least 10 lockers
To be fair, ours did, too
There's enough to survive without it
And sometimes the skill level of teammates prevents them from looting everything before they gotta head back to defend
mortal granite
imagine running back and grab at least 10 uses of medics
with boxes that haven't opened
that has another 5 - > 10 uses of ammo
yoink a 5 uses when low hp, run a little, yoink another 5 uses
queen field
Do you like the rundown ?
- Yes
- Yes but i won't admit it
😳
We had a survey like that once in france actually
about how much we appreciate the current gvt
hollow socket
What ? When ?
queen field
2 years ago
queen field
It was something like "Has France gotten better since Emmanuel Macron [current president] has been elected ?"
The answers were "Yes" and "Yes but the french aren't noticing it"
😳
real moss
Well gotta inflate those approval numbers
hollow socket
That's insane. But representative of Mr Macron I guess
craggy flame
Well, he is somewhat of a small wannabee Napoleon I guess, but less charming and capable. We do not have it better in Germany so.
open tiger
got hit with a double whammy 2 tanks at e1 so wondering how to conserve ammo lol
dreamy bramble
ye i feel that lol
our first few runs we hammered the second one after sniping the first
open tiger
so you can do it? how do you avoid his melee
pulsar zodiac
someone aggro
when it screams
dreamy bramble
go for him when hes locked on your teammate
expect to get tongued on the exit
if you get tongued on the way in fall back
open tiger
i can manage to bait a titan to throw his arms at me without hitting me, was wondering if it was possible here
dreamy bramble
tank moves a ton during his punch animation
open tiger
hm ok
pulsar zodiac
it uses charger melee so I'd say no with his melee radius
open tiger
well we got to the whole area/team scan at the terminal but all 3 doors open. was wondering how you deal with this
solemn wigeon
Why hammer when you can shoot it
dreamy bramble
they only spawn west
open tiger
only west? oh ok.. i thought so
dreamy bramble
you can just permafoam the spawn door w 140% foam
solemn wigeon
they only spawn west
Which is depressing
dreamy bramble
:))
open tiger
so nothing comes out of the other 2 doors? i noticed theres ammo in those rooms
dreamy bramble
ye nothing spawns
solemn wigeon
they are definitely meant to spawn there
open tiger
hm ok
dreamy bramble
bugged but you can abuse it for now
solemn wigeon
If they ever fix that, E1 will become effectively twice as hard at the start
dreamy bramble
idk the containment scan is fairly easy
open tiger
ok one more question.. does the error alarm actually stop when i open the blood door with the 2 tanks? or is it sometime before that
dreamy bramble
what error?
solemn wigeon
What error
dreamy bramble
snatchers are tied to doors if thats what you mean
open tiger
after we finished the first scan door we kept meeting constant waves for 2-3 mins after
so we continuted
dreamy bramble
thats not right
solemn wigeon
That's not the game
open tiger
so in your experience it ends immediatly when we finish scan?
dreamy bramble
ye
open tiger
i guess they just spawn very far away
dreamy bramble
it's just a normal alarm
open tiger
ok cool
the mission objective is constant spam so hard time figuring out whats happening
😩
also had fun figuring out way to reach extraction back on c3pe. went north and took a security door west thinking it was the right way. turns out it was a complete dead end that went for miles lmao
😩
solemn wigeon
F
dark bane
How does d1 work now for overload
They add a room that only opens after puttin in command with key inside it?
pulsar zodiac
the bulkhead key is removed
after you typed in the command
the main bulkhead door then will open
dark bane
🤔 I see
And just to make sure overload is basically lots of fog + a pair of snatchers spawn every like 2 ish minutes?
Cuz my group of people is now 5, meaning we gotta double back for every mission for whoever wasn’t around for the blind run
prisma zodiac
i feel like 2 snatchers every 4 min (if they havent changed this) might be a bit much tho
Especially with how they sometimes just book it
pulsar zodiac
yes its 2 every 4 mins
atomic escarp
4 from initial wave then 19 more waves to "finish" ovl
atomic escarp
you can just permafoam the spawn door w 140% foam
Could I do that with 2 c-foam grenades?
daring prawn
Wait did they just change overload for D1?
prisma zodiac
4?
prisma zodiac
4 from initial wave then 19 more waves to "finish" ovl
.
atomic escarp
4 snatchers from initial double wave after inputting cmd
then 19 more single waves with an interval of 4 mins to "end" ovl
so if you're slow, you have to kill 42 snatchers but after that no more will spawn
at least i think that's that
prisma zodiac
i did it earlier
It spawned 2.
Still think that 2 are weird and 1 would be way better
worst case scenario someone gets grabbed and the 2nd snatcher locks onto the same guy dragging him even further
atomic escarp
the funniest scenario is having two people at main term on 3rd verify phase
then have 4 total snatchers because 2 from error then 2 more from the wave
then fail verify because of it
👍
prisma zodiac
honestly why would you ever start terminal on spawn timer
dreamy bramble
Could I do that with 2 c-foam grenades?
2 foam nades would be worth around ~35% tool on a door
so no you would need a foam launcher
dark bane
Scouts not spawning in overload is prob a bug
Friend just went in again and there’s two scouts again
dreamy bramble
d1?
dark bane
Yeah apparently my friend had a test run where overload didn’t have scouts
dark bane
It consistently spawned 3 for me
Idk
Typically one in first room and two in second, or zero in first and 3 in second
dreamy bramble
im pretty sure i've i've seen 1 in the first and 4 in the second for a total of five
but on average i've seen 2
boreal tendon
ughhh
solemn wigeon
Whats wrong
boreal tendon
is the new lockon snipersentry changed to 1 second
boreal tendon
meaning it's 0.25 with biotag?
solemn wigeon
i dunno
solemn wigeon
there is a terminal in e1 at the beginning now lol
wdym
solemn wigeon
Thats always been there
bold widget
lol
solemn wigeon
Don't worry, getting older happens to all of us
kind swan
Game Hard
uneven plank
, so what
uneven plank
adapt to deez
uneven plank
uneven plank
pulsar grotto
What's a good loadout for the no ammo C3 PE run?
obtuse surge
wheres the cope believers that refused to call the enemy a snatcher
how do you feel after reading the patch notes
cope harder
pulsar grotto
wheres the cope believers that refused to call the enemy a snatcher
I like calling em dogs
halcyon lily
Beat a C1 with my buddy where I was unable to pick up any object or interact with anything other than doors.
Other stuff happening too but that was the main bug. Felt good to actually limp through the finish on that one.
gleaming sinew
What's a good loadout for the no ammo C3 PE run?
Bulpup, Sniper and Knife yet I barely used the goddamn weapons. ||C-Foam is very useful 😉||
deft kiln
has anyone ran d2 recently my waves were kinda baby easy this last on shadow side
astral ferry
has anyone ran d2 recently my waves were kinda baby easy this last on shadow sid...
did the waves stop at all when you plugged in the cell?
deft kiln
no but we also got a late tank spawn fought it in the checkpoint room @astral ferry
hoary musk
YoYo on R7C2 secondary we have "ERROR: Unexpected tether disconnect"
What it mean?
We got kicked out of the Desert zone
deft kiln
YoYo on R7C2 secondary we have "ERROR: Unexpected tether disconnect"
What it mea...
Have you done 1 or 2 teleports
hoary musk
ah got it it takes 2 TPs, kinda felt like we failed
errant vigil
You can complete main without tping a second time
The secondary objective is the second tp to finish that terminal scan sequence
jolly perch
so they fixed the overload d1 cheese
but did they fix the seemingly random snatcher spawns
deft kiln
did the waves stop at all when you plugged in the cell?
wafves dont stop
rugged pebble
Just putting it out there.. you guys just ruined D1 and anyone's sanity to even get through the story of all 1 missions!
west crow
hexed vapor
Just putting it out there.. you guys just ruined D1 and anyone's sanity to even ...
Optional objectives are supposed to be hard. Overload is supposed to be the most extreme of them, and we're on the D-tier of all places. It's supposed to be really hard, and I'm glad it's been repaired to work correctly.
gleaming sinew
I do all objs anyway
crystal oriole
also had fun figuring out way to reach extraction back on c3pe. went north and ...
Aye, a fellow "Yep, this path looks about righ-oh god dammit".
strange halo
In the end the warden dies or probably gtfo
gleaming sinew
You dare suggest the death of The Warden?
burnt goblet
lmao they didnt fix the subtitles
dark bane
Optional objectives are supposed to be hard. Overload is supposed to be the mos...
meh I mean this is a problem since r4 and r5 but sometimes the extra objectives are just tedious more than anything else
like wow we get fog and we now have to waste ammo on a snatcher error that spawn every 4 minutes
hexed vapor
Yep, makes you play the level faster.
dark bane
yeah so tedious more than anything
hexed vapor
Seems good to me.
Encourages you to complete the fairly difficult error path, and forces you to do the class X on the bridge.
dark bane
I mean that was the route we took before anyways but meh
hexed vapor
Then what's the complaint?
dark bane
snatchers are an annoying enemy that shouldn't be put on a fucking timer
especially if they are also going to add fog hell to the mix
but thats just my opinion
hexed vapor
The fog is some of the most mild shit I've ever seen.
It's atmosphere more than anything.
Snatchers are also definitely more interesting than a standard error imo, because they add more to fights than just a few strikers or something dribbled in.
Plus, their AI makes them harder to cheese by splitting up.
dark bane
I'd prefer if they added snatchers to like critical moments in like a defense or something, like d1 main
not just
"oh yeah now you get to waste ammo dealing with fast, decently tanky, armored enemies running around in fog"
every 4 minutes
candid dragon
the terminal in d1 adds snatchers error from ovl?
dark bane
d1 overload
hexed vapor
1: They do
2: They double as an anti-stealth mechanic.
Also, they don't have the infrastructure to do that rn. They really should, but they don't.
errant vigil
I don't really get the problem one of the most loved levels had something extremely similar
candid dragon
honestly, snatchers are kinda annoying to kill. but i get it, there is an ass ton of ammo on d1.
kinda wondered why they gave us absurd amounts of supplies in the mission
dark bane
I don't really get the problem one of the most loved levels had something extrem...
which level are you talking about, cuz it probably isn't one of my favorites 😅
errant vigil
R4E1
candid dragon
the r4e1 tank windup was a pain in the ass.
dark bane
yeah no my group didn't get close to that level sadly
hexed vapor
Tank error was easily one of the best parts of the level.
dark bane
my teammates gave up in like the B levels, and I was particularly busy so I only got to like the C's with GTFO discord randos
feelsbadman
hexed vapor
Actually demanded you could fight tanks efficiently, made you rush through a lot of packed rooms and tough alarms to shut it off.
candid dragon
even though the spawns were bugged.
errant vigil
only downside BC was a thing
hexed vapor
even though the spawns were bugged.
?
dark bane
I mean personally I wish they focused more on stealth mechanics, which to my knowledge haven't been particularly changed or added on to since R2 instead of slapping error alarms of everything for difficulty
errant vigil
Actually not that big of a downside sniper does the same job but better at least for Tank
candid dragon
the enemy spawn density bug that they fixed a while ago.
the E1 starting error was more packed than intended.
hexed vapor
I don't think you know what the density bug was...
candid dragon
then explain it so i know.
that first room always felt like it had a strange rng element to it.
hexed vapor
The density bug was an issue with the weights of room placement not working correctly, resulting in things like all enemies in one room or spawns being heavily weighted to some rooms instead of others.
dark bane
Actually not that big of a downside sniper does the same job but better at least...
I mean my friends didn't like it and I rarely used it but wasn't the burst cannon just a more ammo efficient and versatile sniper minus a bit of range
hexed vapor
R4E1 had high enemy density because it had high enemy density, not because of the bug.
candid dragon
i mean, i had runs where all the enemies were in the two side rooms. scan room being empty.
it just felt weird
royal lichen
i kinda like the idea that overload is actually worth its name. the challenge implied on extracting must be over- .. not just a "cool sidezone, free badge"
dark bane
meh admittedly im def a more casual player despite being around since R1, I think the hardest level i've beaten completely is like r6d3 PE or like a r6 d level
errant vigil
BC was just cracked for it's time also because of a bug it was even more cracked
royal lichen
helps to know what to expect ofc, an error will not be a stealthy sneak with bathroom and fridge breaks etc
candid dragon
so anyway, whats the easiest way to dunk on the two snatchers.
dark bane
oh i wasn't aware of the bug
errant vigil
I don't think it'd be as far off of guns now because of all the powercreep coming to guns
hallow lark
so anyway, whats the easiest way to dunk on the two snatchers.
Make em stumble and a singlet sniper shot to their back will kill it
dark bane
I mean personally I would say sniper for snatcher
dunno how fog in d1 overload would affect that though
also dunno how good sniper is for other levels snatcher appears in cuz I haven't tried em yet
hallow lark
As a Sniper Main… if running sniper… dedicate Sniper sololy for Anti-G/BBC(scout included) and Anti-Tank if level has it
dark bane
bbc?
hallow lark
But you HAVE to make sure the shots hit otherwise… it’s very painful
candid dragon
big black chargers
candid dragon
which shares with an intentional other acronym
dark bane
British Broadcasting Corporation
velvet flower
Every players survives the progression of R4E1 easily kills 100+ tanks and hammers 100+ hybrids.
dark bane
I mean idk about tanks but pretty sure hammering hybrids is ez
if you've been in the warden's little maze for a long enough time
candid dragon
the desperation of hammering a tank to death
hallow lark
I saw that
dark bane
I've done that before by accident
not in E1 so yeah
or was it a mother
idk
it was one of those enemies you arent supposed to hammer
gleaming sinew
C-Foam?
candid dragon
what about it?
dark bane
no I ran out of ammo mid fight and was just swinging my hammer wildly
gleaming sinew
Use it lmao
gleaming sinew
no I ran out of ammo mid fight and was just swinging my hammer wildly
Ah okay makes sense
dark bane
how many charges of cfoam does it even take to cfoam a tank
burnt goblet
a lot
candid dragon
something like 40 something pellets
burnt goblet
aka a lot
candid dragon
maybe 30
royal lichen
similar to mommies. all that tool gone for ~5 seconds. cftrip better tho
burnt goblet
also they didnt fix the subtitles, mad
warm loom
I want to personally thank whoever is responsible for this incredibly cursed screenshot on the GTFO wiki page for the new enemy in C1 for sending my group into fucking hysterics.
HE VIBING
I choose to believe THIS is Henrikkson
gritty temple
dude
whats good with the stuck like worms glitch
after u get eaten the worms dont go away half the time
mortal granite
that glitch happen when you get suck in and pop out instantaneously
halcyon lily
So in D1 after the error alarm that you disable from the terminal. I dont HAVE to do the whole room scan that unleashes a bunch of chargers? It just drops the security scan to the bridge with the other Level 10 alarm?
solemn wigeon
So in D1 after the error alarm that you disable from the terminal. I dont HAVE t...
it's meant to start the scan that unlocks the door
halcyon lily
So then the left checkpoint door that leads to stealth is the only optional route that lets you drop the level 10 alarm for the bridge fight?
Was reading there was two optional routes for dropping the level 10 alarms but I only found one level 10 and it was across a long bridge after the error alarm. Was very not prepared for how rough it was.
velvet flower
speedrun D1 -> 2 class X
big scan in Z199 -> disables the first class X(Z192)
override command in Z204 -> lower the second class X to V(Z193)
halcyon lily
Okay so the big scan with the three charger rooms IS optional technically?
velvet flower
Yes
halcyon lily
Ty! That clears up a lot 😄
Any advice on chargers? I was doing okay until one pierced my firing line
It shredded my bots like cabbage
velvet flower
Keep firing. Nothing really special just need much more firepower compare to regular sleepers.
halcyon lily
Okies. Figured it was just...dont let them do that. Heh. Just need some more practice.
velvet flower
If playing with bots, have bots have bio & sniper sentry. These are awesome against chargers in D1.
halcyon lily
I've been bouncing between shotty and sniper sentry. I'll give sniper a go the next run for sure 😄
kind swan
Sniper > Shotgun sentry
royal lichen
@atomic escarp c1 cells
atomic escarp
Yeye
In the room where the paths split, my friend went ahead and plugged one into each slot, lol
royal lichen
should be ok
atomic escarp
you need 2 cells to proceed a route though?
royal lichen
dont need if u go 17
royal lichen
scan 14 and 17 forehand but dont open until ready
then hit 14 and lug the last cell in
gather 3, then open 15
gather 3, go all the way out and hit 17
gather 3, done
atomic escarp
Reasonable, didn't strike me that of course we can just go back to 17, lol
glad flame
Hi, noob here. I'm on A1 and we are looking for NCR_A02. I am in the zone for it and can ping it. It pings a dot behind this device. It looks maybe interactle but I don't see anything to interact with. Any ideas?
royal lichen
get the baby hsu cargo thingy from the elevator crate
lug that thing all the way to the ncr. let the blender blend the baby, then lug the baby back.
solemn wigeon
Hi, noob here. I'm on A1 and we are looking for NCR_A02. I am in the zone for it...
The ncr is the massive cradle
And yah you need baby from spawn
glad flame
Ohhhhhhh LOL, thanks guys! I am not sure how long I would have scratched my head on that 🙂
royal lichen
the objective text and the big hint texts are better after today's patch.. and the cargo thing (neonate) is a green objective marker at least when feet-down
glad flame
Well that ended up being the easiest A1 I've ever done 
, minus the baby 😄
royal lichen
yea a1 kinda tutorial'y .. have fun in b1, has the same crate thing to lug btw
fallow wasp
vacuum sealed child
crimson peak
I love that image "vacuum sealed child" I imagine the space bag commercials and them slapping the Neonate
solemn wigeon
Never forget to bring whatever is given to you and you'll be fine
sleek bramble
after the big room scan w/ the snatcher guys in C1, is it a permanent alarm until the level is finished?
high vortex
after the big room scan w/ the snatcher guys in C1, is it a permanent alarm unti...
I believe so, yes
river summit
I don't understand C1. There is 5 generators and 4 cells. How do you know which ones to put it in? If you put it in the first 4 then you can't open the door to proceed to your objective
solemn wigeon
I don't understand C1. There is 5 generators and 4 cells. How do you know which ...
Have you tried queurying the objectives
kind swan
after the first generator. there will be 2 generators.
sleek bramble
you don't actually place one of the cells into the 2nd room with generators. there's one generator per security door in that room. you can choose a path only need one cell, then you carry the last two cells through whichever way you choose
kind swan
optional to do 1 or the other. one opens left. the other opens the right side door
river summit
Got it. Sounds like I put 1 each in the path for left/right
kind swan
It's still possible to complete the objective that way but unethical to do it that way as you have back track
river summit
So does it matter which side you open? (left/right)
And what do you mean by backtrack? From what I saw opening both sides makes it impossible to beat the level. There is only 4 cells and you can't take one cell out
sleek bramble
So does it matter which side you open? (left/right)
no, both sides have 3 hormones, 1 ammo, 1 med, 1 tool per room
14/15/16 --- 17/18/19
o
i'm not sure the layout is the same, but the resources are
hard horizon
wth is a suprise box in D1
valid lily
wth is a suprise box in D1
its a surprise
rotund root
what order do you guys recommend for the objectives for PE in C2?
solemn wigeon
There's only one way you can do it
rotund root
I mean should I do overload or extreme first for C2
solemn wigeon
You can only do overload first
rotund root
ok
brazen helm
analog mauve
lmfao
solemn wigeon
I mean should I do overload or extreme first for C2
You don't get an opportunity to do overload if you do extreme because you've already finished main at this point
solemn wigeon
when is the best time to do overload
Most fun but brutal time is with 3rd/4th cell, longer but less intimidating time is 5th cell
analog mauve
so throw in the 5th cell then go in
i suppose then it starts some kinda error alarm
solemn wigeon
Don't get me wrong its still hard to do as you'll be smothered in fog by the time you get to overload with the last cell
analog mauve
what is the extreme
solemn wigeon
Its not awful, but you'll probably still be drained on ammo before you reach the extreme objective
analog mauve
alright thanks for the help
atomic escarp
The long extraction time at the end of C1 is just mean, lmao
of COURSE a snatcher showed up and grabbed me right outta it
urban cypress
Yeah I was at 90% with a team once and the two snatchers ruined it.
arctic sparrow
I’m unsure what to think of the snatchers.
I like that they’re adding new enemies though.
wary olive
D2 now has snatchers during extract waves, undocumented change
wary olive
it actually is, makes you group up
charger side can still back spawn though even before inputting maintenance command which is ass
analog mauve
i think the snatchers are pretty fun i like how they can cause some chaos when forcing the team to split in random directions
their armour is really weird though i dont understand the thought behind that
mortal granite
the back and his butt is the weakspot
hallow lark
Phew… finished helping a group of friends with D1 with Overlod
analog mauve
Phew… finished helping a group of friends with D1 with Overlod
what is the change to the overload?
hallow lark
what is the change to the overload?
Constant stream of 2 snatchers
atomic escarp
fog and snatcher error alarm I think
solemn wigeon
what is the change to the overload?
you actually have to do it at the start now for the completion
hallow lark
It’s Fog and Snatcher Error Alarm
hallow lark
you actually have to do it at the start now for the completion
Yup
atomic escarp
how bad is the fog
atomic escarp
cool
hallow lark
But damn! Getting the key for that 2nd Class X reduction is terrifying
analog mauve
damnnn so you gotta do the whole ass main with constant snatchers now?
hallow lark
damnnn so you gotta do the whole ass main with constant snatchers now?
Yup!
analog mauve
wow okay
hallow lark
Unless the level FORCED you to cheese it with CP bug if failed
analog mauve
the first alarm reduction wouldnt be too bad but the second one might be a skip now
mortal granite
i think skipping the alarm reduction is going to a go to this time
hallow lark
The first Class X you do NOT want to skip the reduction on
tribal junco
How do I acsess e1 I finished all levels to d2
hexed vapor
How do I acsess e1 I finished all levels to d2
Have you done all of the Mains?
B2/B3/C2/C3?
tribal junco
B2/B3/C2/C3?
No
hexed vapor
You need those.
tribal junco
Oh ok
hallow lark
Unless you wanna go masochist
mortal granite
and i have to do 2 full map kite because teammate can't ping with bio
hallow lark
Pre-patch… me and Raya did with 2 bots
analog mauve
so first reduction worth it then
mortal granite
so first reduction worth it then
worth it
hallow lark
Was not fun with the amount but had fun taking my shadow anger out (from R6)
mortal granite
i'm talking about the second one
mortal granite
since it's a class X in a small area
analog mauve
theres just no way
hexed vapor
so first reduction worth it then
Snatchers don't mess w/ it that much, and it's a lot of resources.
analog mauve
yea the error is pretty quick n essy too
mortal granite
you could grab resources and gtfo
i don't see it worth doing the reduction
since sniper sentry got buff
wary olive
do snatchers scream?
cosmic hull
what is the requirements for E1? just finished D2 and I couldn't host a lobby
sacred flame
do snatchers scream?
pretty sure they don't, i can DM you a vid i made where i just dropped into d1 and started the snatcher error if you want to see all the interactions i've made with it
sacred flame
what is the requirements for E1? just finished D2 and I couldn't host a lobby
think it's finishing at least main of every level to unlock
cosmic hull
ahh gotcha, cheers!
sullen cloud
does e1 have any checkpoints?
hexed vapor
does e1 have any checkpoints?
Nope.
sullen cloud
figured 🥲
mortal granite
e1 having a checkpoint is like giving a free win
arctic sparrow
Is the HEL Shotgun garbage?
I can’t seem to get anything in one shot, it’s always 2 or more.
light lagoon
I think it pretty much only two-taps at most, but the crowd control and stagger is pretty enjoyable, I've found myself enjoying it. You have no range tho.
vestal zephyr
use HEL shotgun in sneezing distance and it gets a lot more effective
if you can graze multiple strikers at once with it, its effectiveness goes way up since you can CC entire crowds for the rest of your team to shred to pieces
it is an AMAZING force multiplier during heavy waves
but it does suffer a little in the damage department
I wouldn't hesitate to back it up with a machine gun or a heavy assault rifle
for if you need to kill sleepers yourself
light lagoon
I've been using it alongside a Sniper tbh, one weapon for crowd control and the other for big killing. Admittedly not exactly the most efficient loadout but I have either my mates or the bots to help make up the middle ground.
vestal zephyr
Yeah, that's similar to how I was running it. I was using hi-cal pistol with it since that pistol does some serious work.
light lagoon
I just enjoy having the sniper for one-taps, though I'm often getting blueballed by sniper sentries when one shows up during a wave usually. 
vestal zephyr
lmao I use the hical because I'm garbage at aiming with the sniper
Ironically, too much zoom on the scope.
I'd way prefer if I was able to slap a 2x on it.
Or even a 1.5x
light lagoon
Understandable, though I don't find it that bad. I'm not the best shot but I feel like I can pop heads decently well so long as the head doesn't get blasted by a sentry or someone else or he gets staggered.
Now thermal scopes on the other hand, I can't stand those.
vestal zephyr
Honestly my biggest issue is my mouse.
Because I'm on the move a lot and have very little space to work with, I've got to play with a trackball.
So I can't get the same level of precision as I might with a laser
vestal zephyr
Now thermal scopes on the other hand, I can't stand those.
I've got mixed feelings on the thermal scope.
I rarely use it under 5m or so at all. But beyond that, it's pretty solid for popping shots into stuff. And its ability to scout even in fog and through glass makes it a VERY strong contender for my primary slot.
light lagoon
I'd put it as a combination of two factors that I find uncomfortable:
-the zooms feel too zoomed-in. It's not like I know the actual magnification but I feel like things often appear much closer than they actually are (this was a running joke today with my mates who kept walking into sleepers with their PDWs out).
-the contrast between the scope colours and the outside throws me off (honestly I would prefer just a b+w picture instead). I find it too easy to get tunnel-visioned on what's in the scope, so in general I just end up only hipfiring the PDW (the Precision I just don't even bother with). If I'm doing that though I'd rather just have the HEL Shotty.
light lagoon
It definitely feels something like that to me.
uncut blade
What is d1 overload objective? I scanned for it went in the room but no objective.
vestal zephyr
I'm used to the thermal imaging system though since I've worked with actual thermal imaging equipment before sorta
hexed bobcat
what does "rogue Mother wave" means?
dark bane
What is d1 overload objective? I scanned for it went in the room but no objectiv...
A bit late but it requires you to input a command in the terminal which then fogs up the entire level and spawn snatchers on a 4 minute timer
devout flicker
I'd put it as a combination of two factors that I find uncomfortable:
-the zooms...
Precision rifle doesn't seem worth it honestly unless you're specifically bringing it for popping normal + shadow scouts, useless against charger scouts. The scope is also not as good IMO, if you really need thermals PDW is just better because it's a better SMG with a thermal scope
i would rather have a sniper + hi cal/shotgun on the team to fill the role of the precision rifle
errant vigil
definitely a meme
hallow lark
Oh
hallow lark
Still need to get that completion... (had some teams who joined my LFG and just leave cuz I can’t/don’t have mics
real moss
Still need to get that completion... (had some teams who joined my LFG and just ...
Did a run yesterday, not quite there yet. This evening meaby 👌
hallow lark
Can’t this evening... I’m West US
real moss
Another time. I will need to get it soon, time is running out
atomic escarp
someone help me with E1
i am desperate need of help
dying evertyime when i reached reactor
wary olive
@mossy yoke is it intended for D2 that waves spawn in charger zone 213 even before you put in the maintenance command?
and back spawns never happen on shadow side
jolly perch
I'd imagine its intentional because of the way the zone is
mortal granite
that zone i believe has multiple rooms
wary olive
212 also has multiple rooms
mortal granite
so it's big enough to spawn in while the shadow only has like B
jolly perch
that zone i believe has multiple rooms
^, it has 3 with the third being two rooms away from the first
mortal granite
and it's only spawn like 2 - 3 chargers
obtuse cedar
shadow has multiple room.. just A is connected to all of them
wary olive
and it's only spawn like 2 - 3 chargers
had 4 charger and bbc come from 1 wave
obtuse cedar
also no. you can get 4 big chargers back spawn constantly sometimes 🙂
mortal granite
had 4 charger and bbc come from 1 wave
depend on wave, ye
i got 10 big charger spawn
real fun
almost wipe
errant vigil
No hel gun moment
wary olive
thing that makes me think its not intended is that back spawns dont happen for tank room until you open the checkpoint door
jolly perch
No burst cannon?
mortal granite
no scatter gun
obtuse cedar
thing that makes me think its not intended is that back spawns dont happen for t...
tank room is the similar layout of shadow zone..
errant vigil
Scattergun but with pierce enabled
obtuse cedar
aka A is connected to everything else
jolly perch
tank room should have spawns once you put the cell in the generator and you leave the tank zone
jolly perch
aka A is connected to everything else
^
wary olive
ah, what about mom zone
mortal granite
man
obtuse cedar
mom only has 3 rooms
mortal granite
people kept telling me to go to dad room
how about mom room
huh
gender equality man
jolly perch
i hate mom room
wary olive
so if the code is in 213 its always safer just to have everyone pull back to 211
real moss
gender equality man
it's always scarier to ask mommy for the cell than daddy
obtuse cedar
no
mortal granite
they should be holding in 211
obtuse cedar
there are 3 spots to hold. the bridge, the blood door, the stairs
jolly perch
stairs is the best place tbh
mortal granite
or well, be more flexible
obtuse cedar
blood door is the most fun one
obtuse cedar
i was solo holding as client on my 1st drop at blood door .é.. with only a burst sentry bruh
obtuse cedar
and i was bugged.. i couldn'T give myself any ammo. i had to ask for refill from teammates
wary olive
damn you must be pro to not get attacked by enemies around the corner you cant even see
😮
obtuse cedar
you defend in the blood door
obtuse cedar
not behind the walls
wary olive
like in the blood door in front of the glass panel looking out onto the bridge?
obtuse cedar
yes
wary olive
whats the difference between holding there and holding bridge
obtuse cedar
they don't line up as much
sniper sentry also is less effective
more fun to shoot 🙂
wary olive
also i dont think mom spawns at all anymore
if you dont open mom side
even during extract
winged juniper
anyone know anything about the surprise box? box_12353 promts "surprise" instead of "open"
then says "sealed" when you try to open it
mortal granite
it's a surprise
obtuse cedar
Try to open it until it actually opens
winged juniper
^^
silent kettle
austere gale
Has anyone gone through a bugged C3 overload?
We ended up doing 1 terminal but the 2nd terminal which required another terminal to use, it didn't allow any player to interact with the terminal. We eventually just wiped and when reattempting the level, we had the following issue:
we had to completely drop the level entirely and plan to redo it another time
I did some searching around and it looks like the same issue happened in C3 during the last rundown
solemn wigeon
Ah yes uplink bug
fossil jetty
had the same bugg
but it apprently it does not matter
my friend when to the other terminal to confirm and it started like regualr
allso
anyone else get like 4 snatchers on D1
for overload
vestal zephyr
it spawns them every so often once overload is activated
iron flax
anyone else get like 4 snatchers on D1
I think we got a similar number. Also, in the rooms after that, if scouts kiss and tell you get a few more each time.
queen field
Has anyone gone through a bugged C3 overload?
We ended up doing 1 terminal but t...
A glitch from R5 is now back
Yeehaw
shy vessel
it spawns them every so often once overload is activated
every ~4-5 minutes for 70 minutes for a total of 20 snatchers spawned
queen field
That's kinda ok tbh
Also it's 4 min
In the game logs it mentions a spawn delay of 240s
which is 4 min
atomic escarp
so after inputting the cmd, it spawns 2 waves of 2 snatchers and then a wave of 2 every 4 mins
last gust
I've been using it alongside a Sniper tbh, one weapon for crowd control and the ...
yikes, this basically makes you a heavy gun platform
with like 7 seconds of reloads
take HAR or revolver with hel shotty
hel shotty is great against bigs, as long as you can get close
mortal granite
Question guys
queen field
Yes
mortal granite
D1 Overload
queen field
Yes
mortal granite
spawn 3 snatchers?
queen field
No
mortal granite
i just have multiple game with 3 snatcher
queen field
Some people mentioned 4 snatchers spawning
atomic escarp
it can
mortal granite
well no
mortal granite
only with THAT host
atomic escarp
like the obj is just bugged
atomic escarp
some people got 2 - 4 from initial wave
queen field
Asia ? 4 snatchers
mortal granite
murica host get 2 snatcher
atomic escarp
then some people got 1 every 4 mins
mortal granite
asia 3 snatcher
queen field
Well
mortal granite
and i always got 2 snatchers
mortal granite
well
we didn't take a long time to kill
it just that, it literally spawn 3 everytime with that 1 host
and when we switch host
everything become normal
yesterday when patch come out, i drop in and get multiple scout
i played with this host, 0 scout
but spawn 3 snatchers on overload
literally, when we switch host, everything act normal again
4 scouts in overload, 2 snatchers spawn after overload obj
the guy that got 0 scout and 3 snatchers were at 30 fps and lower
imagine lower fps causing more snatcher to spawn
atomic escarp
¯_(ツ)_/¯
queen field
I was gonna say that host is using cheats but then i see "30 fps and lower" and somehow it seems legit
There are games where framerate affects AI
but no freaking game where framerate affects spawn counts
iron flax
On D1, when you get to the room with the culverts after clearing the rooms beyond the first bulkhead, that shit god ray’ed my ass and dropped frames to 3
mortal granite
by lower my fps
iron flax
I have no idea why.
queen field
is there even a goddamn setting related to leaves
There isn't even a brightness setting
bruh
mortal granite
i don't think brightness setting will help you much
i tried
you want it like this
mortal granite
i can make everything red
mortal granite
brightness warning for the next picture
queen field
Also one of the BHs said the scout count being random in overload is intentional
I don't know why the fuck tho
mortal granite
queen field
That FPS count is relatable
mortal granite
That FPS count is relatable
i drop it down intentionally
queen field
😔
queen field
😳
zinc barn
queen field
pouncer is simply the name in the game files
though almost no one says birther instead of mother
😳
turbid cliff
though almost no one says birther instead of mother
Fight me
queen field
n o
mortal granite
so, is it based on how many player in the lobby to spawn 2 snatchers?
queen field
No idea
rugged pebble
I'm interested if there's a way to turn off overload's error alarm or if it ends when you kill enough snatchers?
Not interested in dealing with infinite snatchers throughout a 3-hour mission
atomic escarp
3 hour
mortal granite
don't turn on the error alarm on overload then
the devs did fix the disable alarm command as well
that's cool
plush basin
could that turn off the snatcher error before?
plush basin
What have they fixed about it then?
mortal granite
well
the command in r5 and r6 can turn off every alarm that got turn on
now, it only turn off the alarm it supposed to turn off
plush basin
Oh, so that was since the start of R7, not just the latest patch?
Well thats neat, at any rate
mortal granite
ye
atomic escarp
now, it only turn off the alarm it supposed to turn off
ok but you can turn off the class x charger or the thunderdome scan when you input override
mortal granite
can you?
pulsar zodiac
now, it only turn off the alarm it supposed to turn off
no
because snatcher spawn is not error alarm
mortal granite
haven't tried that
pulsar zodiac
snatcher "error alarm" is just same event block every 4 mins
mortal granite
alrighty then
pulsar zodiac
up until around 74 mins
mortal granite
so the snatcher "alarm" got turn off after 74 min?
mortal granite
that's enough to beat the level
atomic escarp
so basically you fight around 42 snatchers if you want the snatcher alarm to end
/ if you're slow
mortal granite
only new players are going to have that treatment then
do you have an extra alarm AFTER you get to 199?
haven't fully played the error alarm side
rugged pebble
the devs did fix the disable alarm command as well
I was brb, do you mean that doing overload D1 .. you can actually turn off the snatcher alarm?
mortal granite
I was brb, do you mean that doing overload D1 .. you can actually turn off the s...
rugged pebble
74 minutes...
So let's say a team goes into overload and keeps reviving each other for 74 minutes... does that mean one could survive the error alarm till it disables itself?
Really tryna find a way through that .. and I've got all the time in the world ngl
mortal granite
they can spawn more than 2 if you didn't kill them
rugged pebble
Ok.. but is it still possible to outlast them if (let's say we hammer them each 4m) for 74m?
mortal granite
if you play the game normally, you're technically can stop the alarm midway
brisk gyro
i feel like thats really unnecessary when d1 takes less than 74mins itself to complete
rugged pebble
As in it'll turn itself off or by command Cappy
Cause that's the unknown factor to me
mortal granite
there's no command
you fight them for 74 minutes
if you don't kill them fast enough (spawn every 4 minutes), they will overwhelm you
plush basin
Sounds like a tedious way to play would be to go error path while they spawn and then kill them til they stop spawning with the resources from that area. Then when they've stopped go into the stealth section
brisk gyro
over an hour of meleeing one of the fastest enemies in the game
mortal granite
and like @pulsar zodiac said, the devs could pump that number up even more
mortal granite
over an hour of meleeing one of the fastest enemies in the game
i know away to make them stop moving for 3 seconds
enough for 4 hammers
brisk gyro
will it work for 74 mins of snatchers
mortal granite
will it work for 74 mins of snatchers
yes
plush basin
I mean if your whole team is ready can't enough people hit it while its trying to grab someone?
To stagger it
mortal granite
I mean if your whole team is ready can't enough people hit it while its trying t...
you could dodge the grab
plush basin
Whats the best way to dodge grab? Normally we just blast em. Run out of the its "cone", or away?
or using terrain
brisk gyro
dodging their grab as a non host has consistently gave me the visual bug so im just taking the grab at this point
mortal granite
door or terrain
mortal granite
dodging their grab as a non host has consistently gave me the visual bug so im j...
the visual bug only occur
rugged pebble
Ring around the environment
mortal granite
when your teammate stumble it while you get grab
it like: Grab and got stumble at the same time
brisk gyro
so its not another desync issue?
mortal granite
yes and no
your desync can make the effect delay a bit but not that much
if you type in chat or open box, you can time your desync
it's not really that big tbh for desync
the only time i saw a guy got send to another dimension by the snatcher is because of desync
like HARD desync
that time, the bug happen is when i got grab and the snatcher grab another player when i already got grabbed
and that cause the "dimensional" travel to happen
tribal sparrow
Tbh the fog is worse than the snatchers
mortal granite
it's not even infection
tribal sparrow
Yeah it just renders like shit for me and I cant see anything lmao
tribal sparrow
Hopefully new patch makes it bearable
mortal granite
idk, some people got worse fps, some people got better fps
so i don't really know what's happening
tribal sparrow
Its not fps, its just opaque as hell
mortal granite
i guess everyone has their own problem
iron flax
Tbh the fog is worse than the snatchers
Big facts
kind swan
Hopefully new patch makes it bearable
mortal granite
so, funny thing
if you have no scout in overload in D1
you will have 3 snatchers spawn when activate command
kind swan
Perhaps
4th person dealing with the swarm alone because his teammates all got snatched
rocky marsh
c2 pe thoughts on the guns to bring?
rocky marsh
if you have no scout in overload in D1
is this legit? damn was wondering why it was kinda inconsistent
sonic ether
D1 Finale tips?
robust marsh
c2 pe thoughts on the guns to bring?
handcannon/ hell weaponry/PDW or the other thermal sight gun that i forgot the name for/ and MG god MG helps so much
best hell weapon for it is hell shotgun if you are cocky and a aggressive wave pusher and believe the best way to deal with a wave is to counter wave (im guilty) but if your more of a defend player hel rev
plush basin
D1 Finale tips?
make sure there are people on your team who know the terminal locations in the zones adjacent to the central one. Make notes in the chat to help that. Have 2 people stay near the central terminal and another 2 to go find the one that you need to locate
sonic ether
Thanks~
plush basin
And theres no need to rush between each of the four commands, waves stop between them
sonic ether
And theres no need to rush between each of the four commands, waves stop between...
Huh, I didn't know that. Thank you so much!
cursive quartz
are we suppose to have one bulkhead key in d1 now?
plush basin
yep
Apparently you need to enter the terminal command in overload if you want to access the rest of the level
robust marsh
Apparently you need to enter the terminal command in overload if you want to acc...
wait so you cant just wait till the end anymore to do it?
plush basin
They fixed it this patch
rocky marsh
L
robust marsh
this is so sad
rocky marsh
as if it wasnt already cooked hahaha
robust marsh
oh well Time to beat the level hard mode doom music intensifies
cursive quartz
lol
rocky marsh
handcannon/ hell weaponry/PDW or the other thermal sight gun that i forgot the n...
tool thinking one of each
bio sentry mines c foam
anything we dont actually need?
robust marsh
2 sentry (sniper is a 100% with bio cause its broken af now)
cfoam
and mines
well
hmmmmmmm
yeah 2 sentry one cfoam one bio
plush basin
Rey wilding with 5 tools
robust marsh
Rey wilding with 5 tools
yeah boy
i mean it makes sense
just have a sentry with a bio
bio isn't too heavy
plush basin
if a bot can operate it independently why not a turret
robust marsh
not for a person that can explode a giant human with only sheer force and a knife
plush basin
Congrats 🙂
also wat how did you post an image in here
I thought that wasn't possible
mossy cloak
you can post imagine i gtfo-spoiler chat
plush basin
huh
plush basin
lol fair play 🙂
plush basin
error seems a lot easier in general so I'd go with that
fallow wasp
I would love a QoL change where you can just keep holding down the use button to give/consume multiple uses of resource quickly
it's intensely annoying to give someone 3 uses of anything when they're running around like a sleeper just crawled up their ass
deft kiln
Is class x or error in the start easier if you have 2 bots?
Do the error you might want to dw despawn the bots until after the class4
haughty plank
What alarm door is there from 198 to 199?
fallow wasp
what level is that in?
haughty plank
no not the classX
haughty plank
so only 2 class IV scans?
fallow wasp
Only one to get to the terminal
fallow wasp
hold on I might be misinterpreting this
I don't think there's any class alarm besides a single class 4 to get from the main room to the terminal
kind swan
fallow wasp
I am confused as shit rn
fallow wasp
there are 2 class X alarms in D1
haughty plank
so teher are 3 class 10 if you do the first class x in the big room?
fallow wasp
This is a trainwreck
the first Class X in the big room can be avoided by doing the error alarm
unreal terrace
4 class 10?
fallow wasp
the second Class X can be reduced to a Class V
kind swan
the second Class X can be reduced to a Class V
Which will require people to go through mothers and tanks to reduce it
fallow wasp
to negate the first X you start the error, do a Class IV and find the terminal to drop the security
yeah the second X is a lot easier to deal with assuming you're good at stealth
you get a checkpoint just before it so it's more manageable
plush basin
I find it less stress to just take the second class x on the chin
real moss
I find it less stress to just take the second class x on the chin
you take way more than that on the chin
plush basin
🤨
plush basin
My mans is doin me dirty
devout river
is there even enough resources in the first part of D1 to just do both class X alarms in a row
haughty plank
yes
devout river
even without going into overload/error alarm zones/zones with all the charger scouts?
atomic escarp
is d1 overload just snatcher error alarm
devout river
yeah
atomic escarp
and what is the interval?
queen field
4 min
atomic escarp
i see
vestal zephyr
it's intensely annoying to give someone 3 uses of anything when they're running ...
also if you oopsie doodle while they're sprinting like a lunatic and accidentally use it on yourself because you broke visual contact for .000001 of a second
low oak
hey! I recently completed c1 and i was wondering what the name of the new enemy introduced in that level is?
devout river
snatcher
low oak
appropriate
fierce laurel
jerry
tribal sparrow
Noodler
fallow wasp
Uber eats delivery driver
kind swan
@half hornet I'm pretty sure the error turn off in the Zone scan area turns off overload error as well. However that doesnt clear the fog iirc
fallow abyss
Question, in C1 where is the terminal to lower the fog in zone 23? Me and my team have been looking for the better part of an hour
kind swan
Once you open the door to that zone
It's up the stairs the left in that area beyond the door
fallow abyss
23g?
kind swan
I dont remember the exact area name but maybe
fallow abyss
Ok we've found that terminal in 23H but it doesn't have a code or anything (or are we being stupid?)
kind swan
Type in commands
fallow abyss
Ok thank you we are being extra dumb
kind swan
If any terminal has a special command. It'll appear in the list of commands you can type out
fallow wasp
is 82% bioscan speed worth a damn on E1?
hallow lark
<@377548062119297025> I'm pretty sure the error turn off in the Zone scan area t...
Nope. Not for D1
real moss
is 82% bioscan speed worth a damn on E1?
try it out :)
kind swan
Nope. Not for D1
Oof
remote violet
is 82% bioscan speed worth a damn on E1?
no checkpoints so.. ._. but i feel like its worth with whats in there :)
hallow lark
Oof
Yea but sadly…. If you already got past a CP door and wiped… that Overload Error ends (although… something really odd happened before we wiped… we had an another wave of Snatchers, we killed one but the other fricked off… NEVER to be seen at all until teammate woke the Mother rooms which is how we wiped)
latent hamlet
r7 d1 overload kinda got snatched out of the map 💀
sleek bramble
r7 d1 overload kinda got snatched out of the map 💀
my friend has been snatched outside the map 2x on c1. hopefully we'll get a bug fix for that later
hard horizon
e1, no checkpoint. Send immortal to another realm, LEGIT literally rundown 5 B2 or B1 overload. We died
wait a pain
next rapids
e1 down finally
skillissue
hollow abyss
How tf do we survive B1 when we get swarmed by monsters, like expedition successful but there’s no way our characters are still alive
hard horizon
Kill flyers first fast. bring hsu to the extraction door, 3 t scan, 1 defend the mid bridge while 3 are still scanning.
once open the security door theres going to be another wave of flyers
1 mine, 1 c-foam, and 2 burst sentry recommended
^ this is for only ending
light lagoon
Sounds more to me like they're asking how our characters canonically survive and extract considering it's a loud extraction and they're surrounded by enemies, and uhm the answer to that would be simply.. gameplay reasons.
hard horizon
"Work together or die together". Professional be like, running everything and use mining tactic.
hard horizon
its on wiki
hallow lark
Normal bonk vs Full Charge bonk
I need to figure out the math whether going spear with 25% melee boost or Hammer with 21% Supply boost
Its for my C2pe soundless solo with bots tun
hallow lark
no
hard horizon
oh
hallow lark
It means Running Hammer to Full kill a Charger scout
hard horizon
I guess you could say that with 2x damage weak spot
hallow lark
(Im trying to figure Charger Scout Hp)
signal fox
(Im trying to figure Charger Scout Hp)
Charger scout hp is 60. Hammer is 20 on full charge, spear is 17.5
Half charges are most definitely not 10 on anything
hard horizon
except for weak spot your saying
signal fox
Ray posted the math for charge damage a while back but I can post it again if you want
hard horizon
front and back?
hallow lark
So 25% of a full charge spear hit is 4.375
(I’m trying to get the math right to see if bringing a melee booster of 25% is better for me for now)
signal fox
front and back?
The hammer only has 5.5 damage on a half charge
signal fox
10.2 ish
hard horizon
alright im out of here zooming.
signal fox
It’s x^3 where x is the charge %
Then multiply that by the weapons max damage - base damage
Then add base damage
nocturne flax
Then multiply that by the weapons max damage - base damage
I dont do math
tulip nacelle
whats the timing on the d1 snatcher waves
deft kiln
4MIN @tulip nacelle
hard horizon
need to know how many times do I have to obtain this or where to obtain these
errant vigil
Progress for those drops are done so you've gotten your random drops already
errant vigil
Yea in R6 there were some sought after cosmetics that I didn't get
I got them this rundown and use other ones that look better
paper harness
errant vigil
We got justice for jerry tho, he's in the level now
mossy yoke
The ? indicates that there are multiple possible rewards. Whereas certain rewards are guaranteed so we know what the reward item is so we show the image of it
hot flame
So D1 is bugged or ||4 diddlers per wave|| is intended? It was just ||1 diddler per wave|| before patch, no?
mortal granite
@mossy yoke is D1 overload bugged?