Scouts are considered special enemies. You cant just have a packed zone of them. Theyd lose their status as special
#gtfo-spoiler-chat
tulip tiger
but just imagine that pillar room with 20 scouts
in a nice 4 x 5 grid
that instantly gets scrambled
solemn wigeon
Still wouldn't care BC i only care about spitters
solemn wigeon
Spitters are the definitive perfect enemy
tulip tiger
that's debatable
solemn wigeon
They are immortal, they piss others off and are cute
tulip tiger
but they have a really simple weakness
lucid yoke
Next update: Spitters alert the room when triggered
Then everyone will hate them more
solemn wigeon
but they have a really simple weakness
You say that but explain how they always still get someone no matter the run
tulip tiger
because there's always one person not paying attention
tulip tiger
satan?
mossy cloak
Don't listen to this man his ideas are corrupted!
tulip tiger
totaly . . .
tulip tiger
they do about 5 damage when they pop as well as infection
so if you're in the fog and one pops, you dead
charred badge
^
carmine gull
being at 5 health at max infection seems like it would be pretty rare and you'd be dead from something else anyway, but I guess it could kill you
charred badge
have you played C2 lmao
tulip tiger
when you're in the fog, infection goes up to 99 so you're at 1 1/2 % health
when you leave the fog, it drops to 85%
mossy cloak
D3 || fog hell no infection || D4 || one or two zone with infection and disinfect station+turbine ||
silk crescent
There should be an achievement for completing certain levels at 85% infection
mossy cloak
Meh
tulip tiger
it was hilarious in ||R5E1||
mossy cloak
No need to hide r5E1 it's not available anymore
charred badge
this is the spoiler chat anyway
mossy cloak
True
tulip tiger
There should be an achievement for completing certain levels at 85% infection
a terminal illness?
silk crescent
Sure
tulip tiger
I was jus tthinking that maybe a player that has only played for R6 might mod and play R5 and then it would count
charred badge
nah who cares lmao
tulip tiger
mossy cloak
Wow GG! I beat B1 2 days ago!
tulip vale
I was jus tthinking that maybe a player that has only played for R6 might mod an...
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tulip tiger
silk crescent
embed fail
tulip tiger
I used discord don't blame me
hexed vapor
D3 overload actually doesn't seem that bad, you can kind of just cope w/ being fog fucked as long as your time isn't truly awful.
hexed vapor
By the time you get to code 5, just push into the key zone and fight in there.
It's so high up.
Then, to get back to the reactor, push to the catwalks and defend there again for one additional wave.
tulip vale
When no one LFGs for C3 PE 
charred badge
When no one LFGs for C3 PE <:TS_sob_puddle:849575646895538186>
.t skill issue
jaunty hedgeBOT
When no one LFGs for C3 PE <:TS_sob_puddle:849575646895538186>
I'm sure you're reading this wondering what the tag does. Well, grab a πͺ and sit down while I tell you. This command is to tell you that you're doing good. Keep at it. ||Keep trying and never give up, because we're no strangers to love.. We're no strangers to love. You know the rules and so do I. A full commitment's what I'm thinking of. You wouldn't get this from any other guy. I just wanna tell you how I'm feeling. Gotta make you understand. Never gonna give you up. Never gonna let you down. Never gonna run around and desert you. Never gonna make you cry. Never gonna say goodbye. Never gonna tell a lie and hurt you. We've known each other for so long. Your heart's been aching but you're too shy to say it. Inside we both know what's been going on. We know the game and we're gonna play it. And if you ask me how I'm feeling. Don't tell me you're too blind to see. Never gonna give you up. Never gonna let you down. Never gonna run around and desert you. Never gonna make you cry. Never gonna say goodbye. Never gonna tell a lie and hurt you. Never gonna give you up. Never gonna let you down. Never gonna run around and desert you. Never gonna make you cry. Never gonna say goodbye. Never gonna tell a lie and hurt you.||
tulip tiger
wtf
runic temple
mf just got rick rolled by a bot
tulip tiger
I knew what it was as soon as I read "...because we're no strangers to love.."
not a huge fan, but not really opposed
robust marsh
the best skill issue command i seen almost crying again
tulip tiger
is it really just .t skill issue
robust marsh
.t skill issue
jaunty hedgeBOT
I'm sure you're reading this wondering what the tag does. Well, grab a πͺ and sit down while I tell you. This command is to tell you that you're doing good. Keep at it. ||Keep trying and never give up, because we're no strangers to love.. We're no strangers to love. You know the rules and so do I. A full commitment's what I'm thinking of. You wouldn't get this from any other guy. I just wanna tell you how I'm feeling. Gotta make you understand. Never gonna give you up. Never gonna let you down. Never gonna run around and desert you. Never gonna make you cry. Never gonna say goodbye. Never gonna tell a lie and hurt you. We've known each other for so long. Your heart's been aching but you're too shy to say it. Inside we both know what's been going on. We know the game and we're gonna play it. And if you ask me how I'm feeling. Don't tell me you're too blind to see. Never gonna give you up. Never gonna let you down. Never gonna run around and desert you. Never gonna make you cry. Never gonna say goodbye. Never gonna tell a lie and hurt you. Never gonna give you up. Never gonna let you down. Never gonna run around and desert you. Never gonna make you cry. Never gonna say goodbye. Never gonna tell a lie and hurt you.||
robust marsh
yes
tulip tiger
wow
robust marsh
there was no command called skill issue until last day
charred badge
lmao
tulip tiger
I'm going to need to try to not abuse that
robust marsh
the command was added last day
tulip tiger
of?
robust marsh
like yesterday
tulip tiger
ok
robust marsh
i say last day for yesterday cause i sometimes forget thats a thing π
no i dont think so
but tbh they would most likely be a good anti-air asset xD
tulip tiger
but tbh they would most likely be a good anti-air asset xD
"deploy that AA Bot"
robust marsh
hmmmmmm
tulip tiger
"deploy that AA Bot"
is definitely the best
hasty moth
I just beat D1. Holy... fucking.... shit....
tulip tiger
doom but if you could play the campaign with 4 people
"Setting up a Bot trophy system"
that's a keeper
thin geode
doing D2 Extreme, and the door error alarm after the uplink isn't ending and the door for the bulkhead is not opening.
is this a bug?
hexed vapor
doing D2 Extreme, and the door error alarm after the uplink isn't ending and the...
Can you be more specific?
thin geode
we do the dual uplink, finish the third code, but the error wave is continuing and the door that's supposed to open to give bulkhead key is not opening
hexed vapor
Ah, that sounds like a bug?
Try walking in-front of the terminal.
It might just not be done inputting.
thin geode
we did
thin geode
yeah, it just got worse. We all had different IP's, certain members couldn't uplink_confirm, codes were being requested that weren't even in the logs, the event wouldn't end, etc.
grim marlin
Wtf
turbid cliff
Did you have host migrations or checkpoints or smth
turbid cliff
The combination of those is probably the cause
grim marlin
Can you still snipe scouts from 40m away without alerting other scouts/sleepers inside the room
Or did they fix that
mossy cloak
Why risk it? Hammer works just fine
mighty pond
why risk it; just shoot it from point blank
grim marlin
ππππ go tell that C1 and its 8 scouts in one room
mighty pond
It has 5 π
I see that even after it's fully charged that it still moves back like it's still charging so maybe it does a bit more damage or increases precision multiplier? or it just does nothing
Honestly I don't fully understand why it's inconsistent, but I would have to attribute it to the fact the knife has a stealth multiplier as well which is unique to the melee itself.
As well as the fact that the back hitbox seems to be a bit wonky with actually giving the multiplier
carmine gull
I was hype when that room opened
I could imagine a group of new players alerting a scout and getting 5 waves called on them tho
would be funny to see
peak meteor
That happened to me and my friends tonightπ€£
grim marlin
I could imagine a group of new players alerting a scout and getting 5 waves call...
this happened when I played with randoms and they werent noobs
I bet this room is very popular with the community :D
ngl tho it was cool hearing 5 scouts and 5 wave noises at the same time LMAO
OKAY SO CAN YOU SNIPE THEM SAFELY OR NOT
pearl cipher
Na, but you can stab them with a spear in the face.
devout river
When I did that room all I did was kill 1 and sneak past the rest
signal fox
OKAY SO CAN YOU SNIPE THEM SAFELY OR NOT
Outside of 40 meters enemies cannot hear gunshots
Being 2 rooms away works too
Normal agro rules still apply though
devout river
Would that be possible with the c1 scout room though
Cant really get farther than the room next to it while still having a shot on them
signal fox
Iβve only done c1 once so correct me if Iβm wrong, but I believe there is a room near the security door that should have a sightline into the scout room
If the scouts are near the security door you could cheese them like this
signal fox
Itβs bad if you have no scout practice
Which is all the new players because they only have the chance to kill 3 scouts before that 
And judging by the original question Iβm willing to bet most groups shot them anyways
grim marlin
Na, but you can stab them with a spear in the face.
the spear is extremly incosistent especially with scouts
atleast to me
I prefer knife idk why
devout river
I really like the spear
And you dont have to account for the arc of the swing like you had to with hammer when killing scouts
pearl cipher
I prefer the knife, but the knife can't oneshot a Scout.
devout river
I didnt like the knife, its range felt super short and most importantly it has no satisfying bonk when killing stuff with it
devout river
yeah
mossy cloak
You can't even miss
devout river
yeah
mossy cloak
And if he start feeling you can easily abort
pearl cipher
I like the knife cause if you are quick you can single handedly deal with multiple sleepers that would trigger each other. That charge speed plus the head shot bonus damage makes it great at dealing with small fry.
devout river
Spear can kill multiple enemies in one swing technically
mossy cloak
It's not intented
devout river
Its a bug but in its current state you can kill atleast 2 in one swing
pearl cipher
Yeah I know.
devout river
but its a bug so it doesnt count
mossy cloak
You're supposed to be able to skewer 2-3 but not do a 360 and kill 20 sleepers
pearl cipher
Sadly the spear is also inconsistently buggy and sometimes does a shove on a full charge instead of killing/damage.
devout river
that never happened to me
signal fox
@fallow delta shotguns donβt use hip fire spread
fallow delta
Does that mean ADSing is the same as hip fire spread wise?
signal fox
It is only conesize and bulletspread
signal fox
Does that mean ADSing is the same as hip fire spread wise?
Yes
fallow delta
Ah.. so no point to ADS on them i suppose
mossy cloak
Nope
pearl cipher
It has happened repeatedly to my friend. Very inconsistent and only with the spear. It happens to him, but is probably something like 1 in 60-80 attacks? (Never really counted, but it is stupid rare and we can't intentionally recreate it.)
fallow delta
He may just uh.. be pressing right click, or the mouse not working properly.
As i never heard that happen to anyone else so far
mossy cloak
Sounds like a him problem
pearl cipher
Β―_(γ)_/Β―
mossy cloak
Probably happens because of spear slow charge time
fallow delta
Also wait how do you even shove while charging
mossy cloak
Either pressing C or right click
fallow delta
First right click should just cancel not shove
mossy cloak
Ye true
mossy cloak
Uncharged will shove too
fallow delta
So if you press C while charging you shove?
devout river
yes
mossy cloak
Maybe
devout river
I think
fallow delta
That may be what's happening@pearl cipher
earnest trout
My son has died due to lack of beans
pearl cipher
Meh, it is so rare it doesn't really matter, especially with the new Checkpoints. Lose 10 minutes of progress? We don't really care, as filthy casuals.
fallow delta
Fair then, but it may be that C 
pearl cipher
Could be. π
vestal mountain
My son has died due to lack of beans
I dont see how that relates to gtfo π€¨
vestal mountain
Better
earnest trout
Beans
mighty pond
I dont see how that relates to gtfo π€¨
It's been like a bit they've been doing the past few days
vestal mountain
That is marvelous, yes 
mighty pond
Truly
vestal mountain
As a casual reminder for everyone gtfo category channels are to be kept on gtfo as much as possible. Few off topic words here and there are fine, but persistent ignorance of this will result in a gentle daa daa 
broken zinc
So, imagine being able to skip almost all the level on D1. Surely this is not possible right?π
thick burrow
broken zinc
Whats a warden door?
broken zinc
I know, I was memeing a bit π
broken zinc
Thats why they call me Baitrocks
fallow delta
Thing is, light base dmg is 2, so i assume when you start the charge you do at least 2.
1.5 head multi, 2.0 charged sleeper multi, and 6x in the occiput
queen field
the lemon-shaped mask ?
atomic escarp
Yeah kind of a lemon one
mossy cloak
Here the details on stats
wary olive
Here the details on stats
do you know if the multipliers are additive or multiplicative?
mossy cloak
Multiplier...
wary olive
no for like charged precision to a sleeper for knife
is it 3.5x base damage
or base damage * 2 * 1.5
mossy cloak
No idea
Maybe knifing a giant to death would be know
Either way it doesn't matter much
wary olive
also whats the multiplier for back, head, and occiput?
obtuse surge
no such thing as occiput
there's a multiplier from back but its kind of buggy right now
and there's a multiplier for head on most enemies which is the precision thing
enemies have their own precision multi and then weapons have one too
fallow delta
no for like charged precision to a sleeper for knife
I suck at math, but don't you get the same results in that case
obtuse surge
which just multiply eachother
wary olive
I suck at math, but don't you get the same results in that case
yes, you dont get same results which is why im wondering which way the multipliers are combined
obtuse surge
everything multiplies eachother
wary olive
also, has someone posted detailed weapon stats?
fallow delta
God i must suck at math if i keep getting the same result, even if i am sure it should be a simple thing.
wary olive
if your base damage is 10, and you have a 2x and a 3x multiplier that are additive, you add the multipliers together which means you get 10 * 5 total damage
if the multipliers are multiplicative, you multiply the mulitpliers together so its 10 * 2 * 3 damage
fallow delta
Sounds right. Probably just didn't sleep enough 
wary olive
the result will be the same for some numbers who's addition and multiplication are the same like two 2x multipliers
mossy cloak
Most of the time back multiplier is 2x and head X3 but that's from r5 data
For exemple shooter had 5x on head
signal fox
if you want to have fun with multipliers eat a yellow syringe with the knife and then hit a giant in the back of the head. 5.5 * 1.5 * 2 * 2 * 1.5 * 2.5
it still 1 shots it btw
provided it was asleep when you hit it
mossy cloak
π³ no moar franks
signal fox
yeah
I also have a better version of the weapon patch notes that is actually accurate
wary olive
i will like and subscribe with my 23 youtube alt accounts if u make a video or smth
signal fox
In progress right now
wary olive
signal fox
I can't upload files here but if you want the change notes for the weapons just DM me
It's too long to send as a message 
fallow delta
I can't upload files here but if you want the change notes for the weapons just ...
Me por favor 
wary olive
yes pls
i want to know the stats for the gun im using so i can blame it for my shitty aim
tired charm
I also have a better version of the weapon patch notes that is actually accurate
Gimme pls and thank you
olive fog
Tips for c1 ending? Or well I assume ending. The moving scan after warden door?
wary olive
Tips for c1 ending? Or well I assume ending. The moving scan after warden door?
2 burst sentries at the door you come in at the very top
olive fog
2 burst sentries at the door you come in at the very top
Cheers!
queen field
Also if you see there are way too many enemies coming at you, take your time to clean them then do the scan
rather than doing the scan at any cost
dreamy bramble
there's also a ton of foam nades in the giant zone
enough for each of you to pick one on case the scan gets nasty
fallow delta
Aaand bring proper weapons to make horde clearing easier. I got a HEL gun for C1
tulip tiger
no for like charged precision to a sleeper for knife
it's all multiplication, knife does 5.5 damage, multiplied by 3.5 is 19.25 and strikers have 20 health so you wouldn't be able to kill them with a front headshot. it would be 5.5X1.5X3 (X2 from behind) which is 24.75 (49.5 with behind multiplier and this also only accounts for the strikers headshot multiplier)
tulip tiger
and there's a multiplier for head on most enemies which is the precision thing
there is a headshot multiplier and then the knife has its own headshot multiplier so you still do 3X damage on headshots for all melee weapons, just the knife has an extra X1.5 and the spear has an extra X1.3
and apparently the knife has a charged sleeper multiplier? which is x2 so I'm assuming that you do double damage if it's asleep
tulip tiger
doesn't look like it
static slate
What main weapon would you guys recommend in that level with mostly chargers (d2 i believe)? Scatterbae is necessity for all the nasty biggies and i have no clue what would be good choice to match it with. There are some regular sleepers, a lil bit of babies but mostly chargers as far as ive noticed
tulip tiger
isn't that multiplier on every melee ?
I can paste the list if you want
tulip tiger
Hammer
"ChargedAttackDamage": 20.0,
"LightAttackDamage": 3.0,
"LightStaggerMulti": 3.0,
"ChargedStaggerMulti": 5.0,
"LightPrecisionMulti": 1.0,
"ChargedPrecisionMulti": 1.0,
"ChargedAttackStaminaCost":
"baseStaminaCostInCombat": 0.05,
"PushStaminaCost":
"baseStaminaCostInCombat": 0.05,
Knife
"ChargedAttackDamage": 5.5,
"LightAttackDamage": 2.0,
"LightStaggerMulti": 1.0,
"ChargedStaggerMulti": 1.0,
"LightPrecisionMulti": 1.0,
"ChargedPrecisionMulti": 1.5,
** "ChargedSleeperMulti": 2.0,**
"ChargedAttackStaminaCost":
"baseStaminaCostInCombat": 0.0,
"PushStaminaCost":
"baseStaminaCostInCombat": 0.0,
Spear
"ChargedAttackDamage": 17.5,
"LightAttackDamage": 2.0,
"LightStaggerMulti": 2.0,
"ChargedStaggerMulti": 1.0,
"LightPrecisionMulti": 1.0,
"ChargedPrecisionMulti": 1.3,
"CanHitMultipleEnemies": true,
"AllowRunningWhenCharging": false,
"ChargedAttackStaminaCost":
"baseStaminaCostInCombat": 0.05,
"PushStaminaCost":
"baseStaminaCostInCombat": 0.05,
Bat
"ChargedAttackDamage": 12.0,
"LightAttackDamage": 3.0,
"LightStaggerMulti": 5.0,
"ChargedStaggerMulti": 5.0,
"LightPrecisionMulti": 1.0,
"ChargedPrecisionMulti": 1.0,
"ChargedAttackStaminaCost": {
"baseStaminaCostInCombat": 0.025,
"PushStaminaCost": {
"baseStaminaCostInCombat": 0.025,
epic
tulip tiger
I mean it makes sense because the knife requires precision
signal fox
I would like to point out that I omitted redundant info when I copy pasted that
technically every melee has a chargesleeper multi
tulip tiger
but x1?
signal fox
but the knife is the only one that is above 1.0
tulip tiger
and again, thankyou very much
queen field
So it's better to have a knife deal the first hit on a sleeping giant
signal fox
by a very minimal amount of damage, yes
queen field
noice
queen field
instead of 24.95 ?
tulip tiger
yep
queen field
nice
signal fox
~~by a very minimal amount of damage, yes~~
math is hard, hammer/spear still better
hammer is 60, spear is 68.25
tulip tiger
I mean if you have multiple knives, the players might all get the sleeper multiplier if you're extremely in sync
obtuse surge
there is a headshot multiplier and then the knife has its own headshot multiplie...
that do be what i said
enemies have a precision multi, weapons (guns & melee) have a precision multi
tulip tiger
well the way you said it made it seem like they were the same thing
tulip tiger
you referred to the headshot multiplier as a precision multiplier and it confused my 4 brain cells
obtuse surge
yeh because headshot multiplier is wrong
it is precission
sometimes thats headshots
sometimes thats sacks
sometimes there is no precission to be gained
solemn wigeon
Never bc theres no way you can do enough damage
tulip tiger
it hurt to type that
tulip tiger
Never bc theres no way you can do enough damage
how much damage is it?
tulip tiger
?
tulip tiger
I have a new goal for R6
kill a tank without touching any tumors
and data mine it which means doing it multiple times
nocturne flax
and data mine it which means doing it multiple times
Good luck
R4 burst canon front shoots dos like 0.050 damage
idle socket
lol tanks and mothers have a 0 body multiplier
speaking from experience, tanks and mothers can be killed from the front
idle socket
kill a tank without touching any tumors
already done
queen field
kill a tank without touching any tumors
Can't you just setup 7/8 mines ?
lol
It'll die without any tumor exploding
queen field
nice
violet hare
is there a disinfect machine on c2
violet hare
sick, thanks
tulip tiger
is there a disinfect machine on c2
you can just type "LIST DISINFECT" on a terminal and it will show you any packs or stations
violet hare
oh Iβm not in c2
tulip tiger
@broken scarab is the Warden, you can't change my mind. They got rid of the fake Warden Bot and now look who's at the top of the member list? Right at the very top where the warden should be. and look in #game-announcements how he commands all the prisoners to get back to work after he ordered the repairs for the elevator. We are all pawns in this chess game of his.
charred badge
holy shit
mossy cloak
Well there is a station so
broken scarab
<@!264164771669082112> is the Warden, you can't change my mind. They got rid of...
I am NOT the Warden.
I am more of a chef
mossy cloak
Fillet au Sleeper with sauce au guzzler.
soft loom
maybe that's why we lose our memories
and why we are never seen eating
the HSUs feed us the food calle makes
so we forget and do what he wants
charred badge
yooo
regal thicket
there are
dreamy bramble
d3
soft loom
so we forget and do what he wants
chef and we need to retrieve the lunchbox sometimes
i see a pattern here
mighty quest
_chef_ and we need to retrieve the _lunchbox_ sometimes
Hi-Sec crate is just the bento box
soft loom
i'm telling you man
mighty quest
HSU is the complex door dash
soft loom
lore confirms that calle is the warden
mighty quest
Like we aren't retrieving DNA samples were just delivery
Unfortunately not digornio
@broken scarab when we start up the reactor is that the oven heating up?
broken scarab
For my sourdough baking
tulip tiger
you must be making a lot of sour dough to need that many reacots
cosmic urchin
Quick question, anyone have a uncovered map of D3 or know where to find zone 337? We're really struggling to find it, got 2 ID's in there.
hexed vapor
Quick question, anyone have a uncovered map of D3 or know where to find zone 337...
Should just be deeper into the hub zone.
Also, the run is definitely over.
cosmic urchin
Should just be deeper into the hub zone.
Duh... But like, is it connected to zone 335 cuz we went over the 336 whole area, couldn't find a door.
iron dust
Are audio logs semi-random? I went through the first mission for the 5th~ time and I got a different audio log at the sec door right before you pick up the wave matter projector
sick hornet
No, its the same or at least should be
tulip tiger
bug? or maybe host has a certain amount of completions and it changes?
iron dust
hm
I didn't record it
so I don't have entire proof
but it was definitely a different audio log than the one I heard 4 times before
can't say i'm too interested in the lore so I didn't pay full attention to what it said I just know it was not the same one
hexed vapor
Are audio logs semi-random? I went through the first mission for the 5th~ time a...
Do you mean when Schaeffer talks to you, or is there a log on a terminal there?
iron dust
the sec door before the objective, it plays an audio log when you start the door scan right
iron dust
oh sorry
but yeah the audio that played in that sequence was different
the main reason I know it's different is because the voice acting is kind of memorable
ThE WaRDeN KnoWs THe PaSt
iron dust
didn't hear any of that on my fifth run
how do you access audio logs normally then
do you pick them up or have to dig into terminals
hexed vapor
Go to a terminal, type LOGS, type READ [full log file name].
You're looking for anything other than the autogen
brazen lava
I thought the checkpoint thing in d1 was fixed?
queen field
It was supposedly
brazen lava
Nope, got the restart reactor objective again when loading a checkpoint
Heading back to see if this run is salvagable
wary olive
Whoever designed that room in D1 with the warden door should get replaced
brazen lava
Yeah nope this runs fucked
brazen lava
Not at that point. Died at collecting the keycard. Standby
hexed vapor
Wait, so you're in the disinfection area?
brazen lava
The zone 94 objective?
hexed vapor
The door that leads to disinfection isn't in lockdown, correct?
Immediately left in the hub zone?
Because that's the only thing that would prevent progression.
The objective text doesn't mean anything.
brazen lava
Well thats good to know, they should really see about making sure objectives update correctly accross checkpoints too
These really feel like an after thought
calm vessel
whats your questoin?
atomic escarp
The uplink. So we got 4/4 on one of the terminals
Im guessing you run to the other one right after?
calm vessel
yes
atomic escarp
While the scan is going?
calm vessel
no
atomic escarp
Or well, the enemies keep coming
calm vessel
no
atomic escarp
Because we got 4/4 and the enemies didnt stop spawning
atomic escarp
As in get to 4/4
calm vessel
you use a checkpoint?
atomic escarp
Yes
calm vessel
was this after you already did the uplinks?
atomic escarp
So it says 4/4 complete. I tried to use the connect command too and nothing happened incase i missed something
calm vessel
i think it might be bugged :/
wary olive
i had this bug with d2 extreme terminal part
all codes got entered but they kept coming π¦
after we wiped back to checkpoint it worked though
calm vessel
checkpoints are bugged rn
lofty echo
when that happened to me the host had diff codes then everyone else and he had to enter it in themselves
atomic escarp
Yeah im entering myself atm
wary olive
π³
lofty echo
whats the back zone under lockdown in D3, near the 1st key zone suppose to be?
cause we went through D3 pe already and i thought that zone was extract tbh
lofty echo
1 shot to connect? u can checkpoint? i dont quite understand wat u mean
atomic escarp
It says the command has already been called
lofty echo
uhh prob bug assuming u checkpointed cause checkpoints are not so stable and buggy aff
unfortunately
dapper dagger
whats the back zone under lockdown in D3, near the 1st key zone suppose to be?
before reactor or?
lofty echo
before reactor
dapper dagger
z292?
lofty echo
ye i think thats the one
dapper dagger
and you've done PE right?
lofty echo
yea
dapper dagger
you made it harder that it should be lmao
lofty echo
i mean we did high (leave 5th reactor wave on) > overload > extreme
dapper dagger
z292 has a terminal to turn off the overload error
lofty echo
ah
dapper dagger
error always spawns at extract unless it gets spawn blocked, so you have 1 or 2 people defend while the others stealth through respawn room
and go deactivate it
fair play for finishing it like that
hexed vapor
i mean we did high (leave 5th reactor wave on) > overload > extreme
Did you succeed?
lofty echo
yee
hexed vapor
The timing for that is so fucking tight.
dapper dagger
They left wave on
dapper dagger
so 15 min timer didnt start until they finished overloads and went back to main
lofty echo
oh hell nah doing extreme w like 5 min bruh
the surge started right when we pikcked up 5th id lmao and i just booked with and sacrificed everyone on team
dapper dagger
it would be nice if the error was more clear in overload, door dosent tell you theres a terminal, and when you leave overload the progression Intel disappears
queen field
yup
dapper dagger
probably an issue with having the terminal be in a different layer
queen field
we didn't see it the first time
lofty echo
definitely a bruh momento
queen field
so we were dealing with both sleeper & shadow waves at the same time
lmao
Actually that was even funnier
hexed vapor
Tbf, fighting the tank zone is probably faster, just not necessary.
Overload is surprisingly lenient, just because being fog fucked isn't actually that big of a deal for most of the reactor.
dapper dagger
fighting tank zone would be nice if the tanks didnt respawn
hexed vapor
Fight it twice, actually.
queen field
I think overload spawning an unstoppable shadow error would've made the level a bit more interesting tbh
With the error stopping whenever you reboot the reactor or when you stop the 2nd error
hexed vapor
Yeah, fighting the tank room twice would genuinely be pretty cool.
Although, I'm not sure that they balanced it around the scattergun existing, seems to be a big reason why it's so not hard.
errant vigil
yea a lot of the levels would be more interesting without the scattergun
but you can choose to not take it
hexed vapor
Incredible balance justification.
lofty echo
thats what we call challenging ourselves
nocturne flax
So many qol features this rundown
but theres this one bug that always gets to me
for some reason its always there
and it gets me killed
|| can we pls fix the silent footsteps on giants||
sick hornet
no 
dapper dagger
|| can we pls fix the silent footsteps on giants||
you mean when any enemy is outside your fov?
vital wharf
you mean when any enemy is outside your fov?
I can't hear anything i'm blind
paper beacon
|| can we pls fix the silent footsteps on giants||
dont you love the feeling of turning a corner and a big charger just bonks you
brazen lava
Do i have the energy to attempt d2 with bots tonight?
paper beacon
Do i have the energy to attempt d2 with bots tonight?
just grab scattergun
brazen lava
More so the time it would take lol. Given conservative yet optomistic guess it will be about 2 hours
The bots arent terrible once you understand their quirks. Just takes awhile
reef talon
they aren't terrible once you understand using their number keys breaks them for some reason
instead of scrolling + middle mouse
paper beacon
and if you get scattergun the main fear of the map dissapears
brazen lava
they aren't terrible once you understand using their number keys breaks them for...
If your talking tool select. Scrolling mouse wheel tends to fix it
reef talon
yeah, that's what I mean
any bot other than first in the list order
need to scroll
numbers don't work, lol
brazen lava
Yeah if the turret placement doesnt show up. Just scroll to it and it will appear
My only real complaint is their weapon usage
nocturne flax
dont you love the feeling of turning a corner and a big charger just bonks you
More like hearing the hevy slurping before getting down by a tank
brazen lava
Sometimes they'll just shoot a single alerted enemy we could still stealth. But try to melee a giant and get group one shot
I had them switch to melee mid warden door in d1
Or the reactor defense
Bishop switched to the spear to fight a giant and stood directly in front of a turret to do it
Good thing i had a scatter gun
reef talon
D2 checkpoint bugged...stops error alarm shutdown working if reloaded
solemn wigeon
Oop
mighty pond
Yes checkpoints are buggy
reef talon
Why does that "you can only input this command once" line even exist anyway
it's so annoying
mighty pond
yes the devs are working on figuring out a fix
reef talon
especially for an alarm shutdown command
solemn wigeon
especially for an alarm shutdown command
Well seeing as it can be used to shutdown alarm doors theres that
atomic escarp
what is a class T alarm?
solemn wigeon
Travelling
mighty pond
Bitch moves
paper hedge
is d2 bugged? after putting in the first terminal every room instant aggro'ed when we would open the door
nocturne flax
Its a trigger room
the mom room its a trigger room
then you have blood doors
they have a sound indication
paper hedge
this literally happened in the first room
nocturne flax
after spawning
paper hedge
then every room after it
nocturne flax
the only room that its a force trigger its the mom room on the left side of spawn
the rest are either alarms or stealth sections
someone its messing up
or change the level via modding
humble sapphire
for c3 do you need to do the second bulkhead for the main objective?
tulip tiger
someone its messing up
because it couldn't possibly ever be a bug in 1000 years
tulip tiger
is d2 bugged? after putting in the first terminal every room instant aggro'ed wh...
probably, there have been issues today
mighty pond
Yea @nocturne flax bold of you to assume someone waking a non-trigger room is bad
nocturne flax
because it couldn't possibly ever be a bug in 1000 years
there are bug, but in my many playrtroughs of D2 i havent seen every single room trigger
someone its clearly messing up
or its a modded d2
tulip tiger
cool, a bug that doesn't affect every player, never before seen
nocturne flax
I am familiar with how they make levels
no such thing
yeah never seen before 4000% health
glitch
bug
trust me bro
mighty pond
cool, a bug that doesn't affect every player, never before seen
This literally happens all the time
solemn wigeon
Damn 17000% ammo
tulip tiger
ok so you're saying that it's impossible that there is a lobby wide bug that is causing rooms to automatically wake up
mighty pond
no such thing
Do you not remember the R3 scan desync bug that literally only happened to certain people? LOL
solemn wigeon
Rare bug
nocturne flax
Yeah, just scroll up and you'll see the "the legit speedhack fromt he developers"
solemn wigeon
Yeah, just scroll up and you'll see the "the legit speedhack fromt he developers...
Link it?
tulip tiger
This literally happens all the time
sarcasm
mighty pond
So is basically everything going on in this conversation at this point
solemn wigeon
Lmfao
nocturne flax
yeh
solemn wigeon
Gotta admit thats a new one for me
tulip tiger
pope approved pentagram
solemn wigeon
I've seen a cheater spawn like 50 scouts into r4b3 extreme
Probably claimed it was a bug
I don't remember
tulip tiger
the worst is in matchmaking
mighty pond
I watched a stream of a cheater who claimed that they had a rare bug where they could see permanent bio pings on enemies within a certain radius of them
Definitely not wallhacks π
solemn wigeon
Yall remember the r5c2 blood door
tulip tiger
I decided to use matchmaking for the first time in months (this was several months ago) and I realised that no one was taking damage from anything
nocturne flax
Definitely not wallhacks π
crazy bio player
solemn wigeon
Naw
mighty pond
Literally the worst rundown LOL
solemn wigeon
Man just salty he couldnt beat a1
manic badge
a1 was fuckin hard for no reason π
tulip tiger
ah yes, a class 2 and a class 3
manic badge
mighty pond
I just never finished it
solemn wigeon
Nah i only accept first answers
mighty pond
I just don't really consider myself having played it since I played like a total 70 hours over the entire rundown
solemn wigeon
Thats a fair amount for a rundown
mighty pond
Not when every rundown prior I clock 200-300+
mighty pond
R5 was from late April to the 9th of December
solemn wigeon
You still basically played through the entire rundown effectively 3 times
mighty pond
It was hella fucking long
signal fox
R5 was over 7 months
mighty pond
You still basically played through the entire rundown effectively 3 times
I mean if you wanna get technical with it I could have probably finished it within the first 12 hours of playing
candid dragon
2019 was 6 years ago
mighty pond
I just didn't want to, it was not enjoyable in the slightest for me
solemn wigeon
Damn
mighty pond
Hence my position of it being the worse rundown
solemn wigeon
Man experienced cringe and really said no to rundown 5 
solemn wigeon
Rundown 4 sucked ass in comparison to r5 imo
mighty pond
R4 was aight
tulip vale
R5 was fair, I just didn't like the fact that the charger scout was literally a reskin with no special tendrils or anything
mighty pond
I still personally enjoy R1 the most
It's the time I had the most fun playing the game
solemn wigeon
Imagine playing r1-r3, couldn't be me
mighty pond
R2 was pretty good too
tulip vale
R1 was so much fun
mighty pond
I met the loser @nocturne flax while playing E1
solemn wigeon
Biggest mistake of your life 
nocturne flax
A legsie made me meet this dingus
mighty pond
True shit right there
nocturne flax
Truly life wanted this to happend
mighty pond
Legsie brought us together
solemn wigeon
And now here you are with gtfo soda
tulip vale
have yall finished all of R6 already?
mighty pond
Yes
tulip vale
What did you get for cosmetics?
solemn wigeon
Palettes
mighty pond
It's a random pool so a bunch of stupid fucking color palettes
solemn wigeon
A lot of palettes
solemn wigeon
I think i have 10 palettes
mighty pond
70% of my drops were colors
tulip vale
I GOT THE LEMON MASK TOOO
nocturne flax
I GOT THE LEMON MASK TOOO
Gang GANG GANG
solemn wigeon
I have it but it sucks, too lumpy
nocturne flax
LEMON
tulip vale
maan i cant send media here :(
solemn wigeon
Did you know you send media in #gtfo-media
mighty pond
What a new rundown does to a server
Literally went from having less than 4 people in vcs to 99+
Game was so dead
solemn wigeon
And people say the rundown system is bad
mighty pond
R3 rundown fatigue be like
devout river
R3 didnt even last that long compared to R4 and R5 it just had less content
mighty pond
Both R4 and R5 had extensions which assisted with alleviating burnout, R3 did not.
Doesn't make up in the slightest for how long they lasted, but R3 was definitely imo the worst offender of time left out without anything changing.
green crane
hey guys legit question is d1 supposed to take 4 hours
charred badge
took me like an hour i think
green crane
we must be doing something wrong
charred badge
nothin wrong with taking your time i suppose
mighty pond
Taking your time isn't a bad thing
charred badge
an average isnt necessarily a target yuh
mighty pond
There were lots of people who had long clears for levels that were supposed to take like a quarter or less the time
green crane
well, it just got frustrating for us because someone had to leave since they had work in the morning and we were right before the final guy
charred badge
awww shit
green crane
so i just wanted to see if maybe we were some kind of outlier
it made a guy on our team say he won't do it again :/
but i mean maybe speed is just something you have to learn in this game?
green crane
we're tried to not look stuff up more or less but that might be our downfall
charred badge
try not to do that
mighty pond
I won't lie, the time is slow compared to average clear times. Speed comes with practice, it shouldn't be seen as a bad thing to take awhile.
charred badge
best way to learn GTFO is to go in blunt unless you get stuck
green crane
oh ok gotcha
charred badge
I won't lie, the time is slow compared to average clear times. Speed comes with ...
this
green crane
hmm fair
charred badge
are you relatively new to GTFO?
green crane
not too much, i played a decent amount of the beta
but we didn't necessarily finish a bunch of those
charred badge
ahh gotchu
green crane
some people in our group are new
charred badge
do you matchmake or LFG?
mighty pond
The more comfortable you become with GTFO and how the game functions the more effectively you will be able to clear things. Map knowledge obviously helps, but that doesn't particularly apply here I'd say.
green crane
we've just got a group of friends we play with
green crane
i'm just curious what a 'normal' run of d1 looks like, it sorta felt like we were going a decent pace
charred badge
id say an hour and a half prob
depends on if they're lore hunting or not though
lore runs usually take longer
mighty pond
I'd say average clear time is 1.5-2 hours for an average team
queen nymph
I mean people are completing it in 18~20 mins already 
green crane
i just mean like how the team actually does it
charred badge
I mean people are completing it in 18~20 mins already <:smug_cat:701048440867651...
cell skip wooo
green crane
i think my team might just be missing some stuff
myself included
c1 took us 2 and a half hours
mighty pond
Take time practicing things on the easier levels, might help.
charred badge
^
green crane
thats a fair point
charred badge
run A1 a shit ton of times
queen nymph
Try not to play story levels because they are generally easy and tons of ammos
green crane
i remember the first one in any rundown being super hard lol yeah
the beta was definitely different
queen nymph
If you wanna practice skill properly, just go for non-story levels zzz
mighty pond
Up to you though, those extra resources might be helpful for continuous practice
green crane
i think we'll probably try running to build speed as a skill in a1 and stuff, thanks guys
nocturne flax
Tight resources
ive never seen such a lie before
buy me dinner first
before that
charred badge
lmao
queen nymph
vital wharf
what are the spawn times for the fathers on C3 PE?
queen nymph
I mean, if they are new to the game, then C1's resources are going to be tight until the T scan zzz
nocturne flax
I mean, if they are new to the game, then C1's resources are going to be tight u...
true true
paper harness
where is the bulkhead key for high on D3?
paper harness
the door that the cell is in?
restive granite
I'm not sure the cell is there
paper harness
so the door that spawns the shadow error?
restive granite
yes
if i remember correctly it's there
you need to go there anyway as to progress
then you'll have to sneak all the way back to disable the alarm
paper harness
Lmao that's actually so fucking dumb
Why would they give you the second bulkhead key before you finish the reactor
restive granite
as i said
i don't remember
i suggest someone else confirming it
i might be confusing it with the normal key to the door behind which is the disable alarms terminal
paper harness
When you can literally just go do overload when you're at 5/5 codes for high and then input last code to instantly stop the fog from rising and just get 15 mins to do ext with no fog
That's actually so dumb lmao
restive granite
as far as i know, going overload first isn't the best idea for d3
the 2 tanks cause issues
paper harness
Doing overload first is the intended way to do PE
paper harness
???
nocturne flax
Then why are the tanks giving you trouble
paper harness
The fact that the bulkhead key is given to you before you finish reactor is so dumb
restive granite
then I don't know who the hell told me overload is a bad idea to do first on pe
what the fuck
nocturne flax
After doing overload
restive granite
damn I'm an idiot
paper harness
But you literally don't event have to do main reactor in fog if you just do it first
paper harness
prisoner efficiency, when a level has 3 objectives (main, extreme, overload), you do them all in one run
dense vine
oh i see im avoiding that for now i just wanna do the mission first π
hexed vapor
The fact that the bulkhead key is given to you before you finish reactor is so d...
I mean, I think doing overload second is pretty hard.
Especially when the normal way isn't super duper difficult once you get it down.
My expectations for D3's fog were so much worse than it actually turned out to be.
grim marlin
Is c1 alarm door wave rng? Sometimes the waves have big shooters sometimes not
lyric narwhal
the error?
grim marlin
Yea
lyric narwhal
yeah i think its random
grim marlin
Like in some games biggus dont appear at all
π§
Why making WAVES of all things rng
hexed vapor
That's pretty standard.
grim marlin
Nooo π‘
errant vigil
It do be like that had 2 hybrids spawn 3 waves in a row once
grim marlin
It do be like that had 2 hybrids spawn 3 waves in a row once
Jesus christ
queen nymph
rng is fun
errant vigil
Just have to be aggressive
hexed vapor
What scan is this that's giving you trouble?
hexed vapor
Ah.
grim marlin
But strikers be like bonk then we die
They also love hiding around a corner then wiggling their tongues out
hexed vapor
Our static's prefered set-up was two burst sentries on the right side maintenance stairs, and a fuckton of foam and mines on the spiral stairs.
hexed vapor
One is better than nothing.
grim marlin
But
hexed vapor
Which part is killing you, maintenance stairs?
hexed vapor
It brings you to the stone stairs that are to the side right before the top floor.
hexed vapor
That's the hardest part. You mostly need to back off, clear them, then push.
grim marlin
But
hexed vapor
If you push too hard, people go down, and you lose loads of time.
grim marlin
π€¨ tbh I feel like half the deaths were from my mates lol
Also does the wave get harder? At the end we always had big shioters
hexed vapor
It'll reach max wave size after a while, yes.
fallow delta
Here
signal fox
For example, pistol does 4.39 damage and can stagger a charger in 1 shot even though a charger has 6.5 stagger HP. The reason for this is because the pistol has a 1.5 stagger multiplier, meaning that it would do 6.585 stagger damage
that is more than the chargers stagger HP so it staggers
another example is the bat which does 3 damage on light attacks, and has a stagger multi of 5.0
if you hit a giant in the back it would do 30 stagger damage 3 * 2 *5
giants have a stagger HP of 40 so it would only take 1 back hit + a hit anywhere else to stagger a giant with the bat
signal fox
light attack
warped spruce
HUH
fallow delta
Any clue if the multipliers scale with charge time btw? @signal fox
Cause knife should 1 tap with any charge from the back
signal fox
if it is a chargemulti they do
fallow delta
Ah that explains it
@warped spruce and yes, the bat is the giant bully weapon of choice
signal fox
spear
"LightPrecisionMulti": 1.0,
"ChargedPrecisionMulti": 1.3,
warped spruce
oh my god
signal fox
it scales up to 1.3 depending on charge
fallow delta
Interesting. Any idea if after a certain amout of staggers, enemies get immune to them for a bit?
Otherwise you could light attack a giant to death with a bat
signal fox
I am fairly positive that there is some kind of short cooldown on staggers but I don't know
limb breaks bypass this cooldown
fallow delta
I never stunned anything for that long so no clue @warped spruce
warped spruce
oh we had fun shoving strikers into corners with 4 ppl just for about a solid 2 minutes
signal fox
spam shove an enemy and sometimes they won't actually stagger, even after the animation ends
fallow delta
Do we know limb health on giants?
signal fox
15
fallow delta
Ah i see.
warped spruce
im gonna embarrass myself and try the math i see here
so spear charge does 17.5
if i were to stealth a giant
would that be like... 35 back stealth dmg * 1.3
is there a rear head multiplier ?
signal fox
hitting back of head overlaps the back multi and the head multi
warped spruce
cus they advertised spear as "very high damage" while hammer was just "high damage"
fallow delta
And precision multi applies to everything that is a weakpoint you said.. so even back?
Yes on the wiki
signal fox
so a spear to the back of a giants head would be 17.5 * 2 * 1.3 * 1.5
precision only applies to headshots
or tumor shots on bosses
back shots are static, and are 2.0 for every enemy that they apply to
warped spruce
what is the 2 and the 1.5? if 1.3 is precision (head)
tall kraken
can i ask here if anyone has advice for the 'survive' portions of c1 with the tentacle monsters
just wiped there with my buddy, we're running with 2 bots
1st one was easy and 2nd one didn't seem to end and murdered us
signal fox
what is the 2 and the 1.5? if 1.3 is precision (head)
2 is the backshot multi 1.5 is the giants headshot multi
warped spruce
ohhhhhhhhhhhh
warped spruce
1st one was easy and 2nd one didn't seem to end and murdered us
my friends and i just ran around the pillars
signal fox
weapons have their own multi for hitting head which stacks with the multi for the enemy's head
most weapons have a negative precision multi because of this
assault rifle's is 0.8
signal fox
no, it probably is just another way to refer to headshots
mind sending that here so I can have a look?
signal fox
yeah, it's just talking about the enemies own headshot multi
so the additional damage multi they take for being shot in the head
warped spruce
ahhh thats why weapons doing 20 charged damage could 1 shot scouts
with no precision multi
i see i see that is very insightful thank you khepri
@fallow delta oh ya when u asked about the body parts hp it seems to be on this doc too i missed it earlier
mild glade
at the end of d1 are the beasts bubbles supposed to burst?
i put about 300% of both pistol and scattergun into one and it just didnt explode, got stuck in an endless loop
brisk gyro
damage drop off at a range is still a thing, most main weapons are a waste to use and u def should not be sniping with a shotgun
sniper works best
mossy cloak
Any shotgun snipers?
brisk gyro
chokemod
pulsar zodiac
Any shotgun snipers?
I am
fallow delta
@signal fox do you know how the multipliers interact with eachother?
fallow delta
i put about 300% of both pistol and scattergun into one and it just didnt explod...
Yea get snipers
fallow delta
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Br_2A3n3YDO1v0Kld27KCLvwRYKJqjliyhntoT2N...
And thanks
brazen lava
okay is the first mother in d2 a garanteed detection or did i just get hit with some bullshit
one step into the room light not even on and every single baby sleeper turns to face me and the mother is alerted
brazen lava
those are eggs not respawn sacs
I think thats another gripe i have. Adds respawn pods. While having a boss that as part of its setpiece has non functional pods
vernal rose
Can't, gotta kys again to trigger it
brazen lava
okay not have the energy for d2 right now. i need a nap first.
am not looking forward to fighting that mother again tomorrow 
do not even have the energy to avoid forgetting entire words in my sentences. nap time!
fallow delta
@daring bramble a few checkpoints are buggy atm. Devs know and are working on them