gtfo-spoiler-chat

[orchid sorrel]

yes

[restive parrot]

ok ty

[orchid sorrel]

it should connect to the other zones you need to go towards

[paper harness]

why does every single level have to have fog

[soft glade]

gtfo staple

[solemn wigeon]

Fog = GTFO

[paper harness]

get the fog out

[orchid sorrel]

GTFO = Fog

[solemn wigeon]

Fog = Fog

[paper harness]

GTFO = GTFO

[soft glade]

[paper harness]

anyone else noticing bugged spawns in 180 for B4 high?

if you have multiple people in a room giants will just spawn directly on top of you

[cedar pike]

happened once to us

but they were isolated

[vapid moon]

this extension makes me feel emotions again

every single one of these new levels is so GOOD

[wary current]

For those struggling with b4, take two mine deployers. GG

[mossy yoke]

Glad you're enjoying it

[vapid moon]

these are prob the best levels you guys have done

[solemn wigeon]

I agree

The refining had paid off imo

[orchid sorrel]

1 hour survival mission when?

nah, but the new levels are really good

nice job

[solemn wigeon]

So uh

R5ExtExt when

[mossy yoke]

Lol

[vapid moon]

R5://EXT://EXT better include E2 and F1

[hexed vapor]

E1 seems like it will be interesting.

[vapid moon]

e1 is sick

literally

[nimble jetty]

Anyone got any advice on the terminals for A3

Too many wrong passwords and we can't reset it

[burnt sequoia]

b4 is basically a lover letter to GTFO kiters

[orchid sorrel]

not really

[burnt sequoia]

or an ass-whipping to those who do not know kiting is a thing

[orchid sorrel]

you don't need to kite in order to beat it

[vapid moon]

i think its more like a love letter to fps players

kiting is a little awkward in that map

but it works

i wouldnt rely on it tho

[velvet flower]

True, just gun blazing everything.

[orchid sorrel]

kiting on that level makes it boring tbh

[burnt sequoia]

i mean hammering enemies is also part of kiting skill

[vapid moon]

true

[burnt sequoia]

i only played it once and i don't think u have enough ammunition to shoot all the way through

[orchid sorrel]

you do

cause that's how I beat it the first time

[velvet flower]

The good design part of B4 is, you can shoot everything and loot all the side zones so you still have tons of ammo, or you can completely ignore side zones and use mostly your hammers.

[cedar pike]

first 10 minutes is pretty easy to just use hammer exclusively

besides the large biomass things

[velvet flower]

You can adjust how many side zones you want to loot which depends on how your teams' preference.

[orchid sorrel]

the point of that level isn't to kite though

[burnt sequoia]

i figure looting all side rooms and shooting all that's coming would be really tiring

30 minutes man, how many do u wanna kill!

[velvet flower]

Then kiting is an OK strategy for you

But gun blazing everything can work well for many teams for sure.

[burnt sequoia]

idk man, when i did it my first instinct was to kite lol

not getting all the ammopacks and turning it into Vietnam

tho we did try very hard to find ammopacks

[orchid sorrel]

just use a terminal. There are plenty per zone

[burnt sequoia]

sure, except when the team can't clear a wave fast enough and you have little time finding the resources during the short gap of waves

[viscid halo]

Well

In my experience

rushing the cells (basically static spawns)

and then going back to main room

[velvet flower]

You don't clear fast enough probably because you try to hammer.

[burnt sequoia]

lol maybe

[viscid halo]

and then when you open first door at like 20 min left, usings zones 183 and 184 to scrounge supplies in rooms a, b, and c, worked for us

[burnt sequoia]

my team and i agreed that ammo is precious and thus should be saved

[orchid sorrel]

there's plenty of ammo though

[velvet flower]

Conservative is an option for sure. You use less ammo you can ignore several even all the resources zone

[cedar pike]

the real hidden tech is splitting up to manipulate the spawns

[viscid halo]

We ran two sniper sentries, biotracker, and mines

mines for if the spawns were on people getting cells

sentries for waves

[burnt sequoia]

damn, spawn manipulation

how u do that

[viscid halo]

and bio tracker for rising fog

Two guys in main room

one on terminal, on going for cell

most chances they'll spawn toward main room

and not edges where cells spawn

[vapid moon]

Unironically I was able to solo clear waves with hammer, its really just bob and weave

[cedar pike]

yeah just splitting up two and two so the people in the main room have a chance for the wave to spawn on them

so the other guys can easily get to the resources

[vapid moon]

But I do recommend going full metal jacket on those waves just cause theres so many

[burnt sequoia]

i see. So that's how u guys play it.

maybe i panicked too much coz my instinct of this game is telling that it won't give you enough resources most of the time

[velvet flower]

There are just so many strategies can work in B4

[vapid moon]

Personally I just say fuck the turbine and cells

[cedar pike]

yeah you can get away with not using the turbine at all

same w the cells if you're good

[vapid moon]

We had more than enough resources, but that's just us

[burnt sequoia]

if you ignore the cells, what would happen?

[velvet flower]

Well, turbine is useful in some areas of resources zones

[cedar pike]

you just have less access to the extra resources without them

[burnt sequoia]

ah

so that's a kiting route

[vapid moon]

The cells are purely just to open resource zones

[velvet flower]

You don't pick cell = you have less resource => you have to hammer most of the little guys and only shoot when alarm and big dudes

[vapid moon]

The cells and turbine got my team killed everytime, I don't understand how people got those through

[burnt sequoia]

it's also funny how they turn off the lights from time to time to spook you

[vapid moon]

Lol

[velvet flower]

Cells/turbine are for resource collecting, so you should spend resources (ammo/mines) to quickly clear every threat so you can freely loot

[burnt sequoia]

ok it makes sense to me now

next time i'll try busting my way out

[orchid sorrel]

B4 is the closest we'll get to a run and gun level

[velvet flower]

R2D2 was already a good gun blazing level

[vapid moon]

R5E1 is a pretty good run and gun level

[cedar pike]

havent played much of it yet but d2 seems like cock torture

[vapid moon]

D2 is pretty cool

[hexed vapor]

I agree that D2 seems pretty cool.

[orchid sorrel]

D2 is the definition of pretty cool

[vapid moon]

Btw, what does the diminishing alarm mean, never figured out what that part meant

It just felt like a normal alarm door

[orchid sorrel]

I think it means that enemy waves get smaller overtime instead of larger

[hexed vapor]

Doesn't feel like it.

[vapid moon]

It would make sense cause I've only seen it on a3, and it would make sense for it to make an a tier class 5 easier lol

[frigid bolt]

Hello. I was just wondering if there's anyone who could possibly give some helpful advice towards B1?

[orchid sorrel]

which part are you struggling with?

[sterile isle]

was it class V or class S?

[frigid bolt]

We were at a part where we had to go into zone 98

[orchid sorrel]

on a3, there's both

[frigid bolt]

I think class S? There were chargers that kept coming in groups of two.

[orchid sorrel]

thats the error alarm

[frigid bolt]

Yes that one!

[sterile isle]

oh yeah just realised

you need to find the sample asap to stop the alarm

[orchid sorrel]

for B1 you want to find the terminal in the zone as fast as possible and ping the HSU. When you start the HSU scan, make sure your setup to defend

[cedar pike]

one way ive done it is have one person sneak in and locate the HSU and then have the 3 posted outside clear the wave and sneak in to do the scan as soon as its cleared

[frigid bolt]

So we have to rush into it?

[orchid sorrel]

that's one way of doing it

[sterile isle]

that's if they don't spawn inside though, unless they fixed it

[orchid sorrel]

once you finish the HSU scan, the alarm will shut off

[vapid moon]

If the wave spawns with the one guy hes fucked and then some

[cedar pike]

thats the best part

[vapid moon]

Lmao

[frigid bolt]

Oh boy

[orchid sorrel]

it's important to bring strong weapons, i.e. sawed-off shotgun, shotgun, hel rifle, hel gun

[sterile isle]

[cedar pike]

hel rifle/hel gun feels p good cause of the amount of large enemies in the hsu room

[frigid bolt]

Would those be the better weapons to use? I typically like using the DMR gun.

[cedar pike]

well those are secondaries

[orchid sorrel]

except the sawed-off shotgun, that's a main

[frigid bolt]

I'm totally a newb at this but thank you guys so much for your help lol. My friends just got me into this game and it's been fun so far but we're stuck haha. What would you guys recommend as a loadout then for b1? I normally run the bio tracker since some of my friends feel it's useless.

[orchid sorrel]

sawed-off shotgun is so good

[cedar pike]

bio tracker is good situationally but i dont feel like its that necessary in b1

[orchid sorrel]

I've ran sniper, sniper, mine, bio

[sterile isle]

^

[cedar pike]

same

i like running pistol/hel rifle but that might not be the best

[frigid bolt]

D: I like the revolver though..

[whole locust]

I feel like guy with the biotracker never dies first because he knows when to fucking bolt lol.

[cedar pike]

i like the revolver a lot too but the hel weapons are very effective against the large enemies + chargers

which theres a ton of to deal with if you're just gonna rush the hsu

[frigid bolt]

Ok! Thanks so much everyone. :DDD

[vapid moon]

Tell your friend they're wrong. Bio is prob one of the most if not the most essential tools in the game

[solemn wigeon]

Yes

Especially later

[frigid bolt]

<_< I told them I liked it and made fun of them because we had hordes at one point since they wanted to try out extreme run.

[orchid sorrel]

"It's just a waste of a tool spot." Man, I've heard that too much

[frigid bolt]

They couldn't see them till I pinged them

[solemn wigeon]

Bio is S tier

[frigid bolt]

We normally have the c-foam, 2 turrets, and me with the bio scanner

[whole locust]

I mean, I can understand if you're planning for something specific and just want to bring more firepower, but it's just geenerally so helpful.

[cedar pike]

dont sleep on the mines

[whole locust]

And your other tools get more gear.

[orchid sorrel]

C-foam is not good on that map

[frigid bolt]

No?

Wait why not?

[vapid moon]

Honestly cfoam doesnt have a lot of use in r5 except for the extended levels

[solemn wigeon]

5head just cfoam the giant chargers

[whole locust]

Yeah, it's hard to suggest Cfoam for that map given the objectives.

[vapid moon]

No doors to foam

[orchid sorrel]

very little doors to c-foam that are helpful

[frigid bolt]

We usually use it for the scouts

[whole locust]

Unless you just want to make scouts 100% safe to stealth or something.

[cedar pike]

there will be a point the deeper you get into the game where your friends will beg you to take the biotracker you just have to hold out

[solemn wigeon]

Or everyone can take biotracker?

[vapid moon]

Learn to kill scouts without foam, its essential. Honestly take 3 dentries

[orchid sorrel]

that's too op

[whole locust]

Nuoh god please no more biometa.

[cedar pike]

hes the only believer

[frigid bolt]

3 dentries?

[solemn wigeon]

I mean it's not really essential

[orchid sorrel]

no 2 sentries, 1 mine

[cedar pike]

mine deployer is really good for scans and stuff cause you can place it on doors and they'll all stack while breaking through

[vapid moon]

That's personally what I bring

[solemn wigeon]

3 dentists

[vapid moon]

Mines can be good for info

[orchid sorrel]

mines are an S tier tool

[solemn wigeon]

Burst sentry F tier

[whole locust]

B1 is so combat centric thanks to the Overload. I can see you dippin on bio and cfoam for that.

[orchid sorrel]

don't use c-foam on reactor waves, just a waste honestly

[frigid bolt]

....what are reactor waves....?

[solemn wigeon]

dw about it

[cedar pike]

getting randomly sniper sentry'd for 70 during c1 is all that matters

[solemn wigeon]

TRUE

[vapid moon]

Seeing people use foam on the floor makes me loose faith

[frigid bolt]

T_T I feel like I only know a small amount of what you're talking about now

[orchid sorrel]

unless a door is broken

[solemn wigeon]

I mean my team cfoams the floor when we don't have doors

[cedar pike]

b3 cum ladder strat

[vapid moon]

Your in for a treat

[solemn wigeon]

@frigid bolt there is a type of objective called a Reactor, you'll discover it eventually

[orchid sorrel]

they're fun

[vapid moon]

Yeah but I watch people foam the floor instead of the door

[frigid bolt]

Oh we normally foam the door

[solemn wigeon]

I actually like to foam the ceiling

[frigid bolt]

unless there's one door

[orchid sorrel]

that's painful

[vapid moon]

Get out

[orchid sorrel]

get in

the scan started

[cedar pike]

if you're foaming the door mines are even better

[solemn wigeon]

ON ME

[vapid moon]

I love running into waves and putting a mine down in the middle to suicide bomb the whole wave

[orchid sorrel]

but it turns out you only killed one

[cedar pike]

thats the "they'll expect a body in the wreckage" maneuver

[solemn wigeon]

When they are all on a ladder the moment the mine goes off so nothing dies

[vapid moon]

That one was me

[cedar pike]

earlier today my friend shot me so the scout tentacles missed me then shot the scout

absolute gamer play

[frigid bolt]

wow

[vapid moon]

I think they patched that in r5 ext cause I killed a few on the ladder.

[solemn wigeon]

R4 moment tho

[orchid sorrel]

it's not in the #patch-notes though

[solemn wigeon]

I swear scouts are still fucked

[vapid moon]

Damn, wishful thinking I guess

[vapid moon]

Wifi takes your hammer privileges

[orchid sorrel]

the only time scouts can live without a head

ladders are just too op

[solemn wigeon]

Not a problem when you are host

[vapid moon]

Wifi says otherwise

[solemn wigeon]

My computer crashes first :^)

[orchid sorrel]

imagine not using dial-up

[vapid moon]

I actually run gtfo on a mobile hot spot

[orchid sorrel]

9 devs online... most I've ever seen online I think for me at least

[solemn wigeon]

I download the maps and send them to my teammates later after I finish so they can do them too

[vapid moon]

I think theres only 9 devs total rn

I should sleep

Gn lol

[orchid sorrel]

same

[solemn wigeon]

Imagine sleep

gn

[orchid sorrel]

gn

[frigid bolt]

gn

o-o

[solemn wigeon]

0-0

[calm coral]

r5e1: insane again

someone laughed hysterically while making that

[solemn wigeon]

If a GTFO level isn't driving you insane, its not a gtfo level

[calm coral]

hmmm

I mean

b4 is just hella fun

[mossy yoke]

we have a couple more than 9 at this point

[calm coral]

doesn’t drive me insane

[solemn wigeon]

Waiting for 6 minutes in phase 3 does tho :(

[calm coral]

true it’d be cool if we could fast forward to the next phase in a terminal or something

at the cost of something else ofc

[solemn wigeon]

The only drawback I see in B4 is that there wasn't enough content in the latter half but thats just me being unable to sit still for a short while

[calm coral]

you guys dropped into c3 yet?

[solemn wigeon]

yes

fun level

lots of pain

[calm coral]

intuitive system

I like

[vapid moon]

Yes, flips everything you know on its head

[autumn citrus]

I cant get past the B levels

I suck bigly

[calm coral]

took us a while to figure out the uplink lmao

when typeracer is actually valid practice for gtfo

[solemn wigeon]

kek

[cedar pike]

thats why i get put on reactor duty

130 wpm baby

[frigid bolt]

o-o Question, where would I ask about who was streaming on the 10chambers twitch?

[calm coral]

you’re gonna shine in r5c3 my man

[solemn wigeon]

ask the devs themselves 5head

[mossy yoke]

which stream?

[vapid moon]

Bigger chambers are needed unless these are like shotgun chambers

[solemn wigeon]

josh go to bed >:(

[vapid moon]

Renovation

[frigid bolt]

Um I think it was a couple days ago.

2 days ago

[vapid moon]

I heard d0c typing next door I couldn't help myself

[solemn wigeon]

simp :>

[mossy yoke]

If you can point me to which video then i can take a look: https://www.twitch.tv/10Chambers/videos

[frigid bolt]

this one https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1063852395

[vapid moon]

He has a cute dog, how can I not simp? If simping is what it takes to get closer to rascal, so be it.

[solemn wigeon]

I don't like dogs sorry :(

[vapid moon]

Banned

[mossy yoke]

That had Viktor (Office manager, streamer, little bit of everything), Alex (Our delivery specialist), Phin (Our band and social manager), and Felix (One of our programmers)

[vapid moon]

Viktor sounds like he secretly solos every level but plays dumb on stream

[cedar pike]

which one is the POV from? i jumped to a random part of the stream to see how good the devs were and i watched him friendly fire someone twice in the span of 30 seconds

[mossy yoke]

It's from Viktor's POV

mostly the streams are about having fun

[solemn wigeon]

Fun is something a lot of people don't understand in this game :^)

[cedar pike]

i play for the small dopamine release after my suffering

[frigid bolt]

Oohhhh D: I wanted to thank them for the raid!

[mossy yoke]

I will let Viktor and David know (they mostly run the stream)

[frigid bolt]

Thank you! :DD

[paper harness]

how do you check which terminals are linked in C3?

[eternal briar]

You can type in the first command and it won't start the alarm until you type in a second command at the receiver terminal.

[paper harness]

ah I didn't realise

cheers

[plucky sapphire]

Anybody work out what the "diminished" means on the alarms in A3 (or in general)?

And on A3, is there a way to stop the error alarm on extreme?

[turbid cliff]

seems to mean that there's fewer enemies in the wave

but in exchange new waves spawn real fast so it doesn't seem to make things much easier

[plucky sapphire]

We noticed that no large enemies seemed to spawn either I don't think

But otherwise, we had a hard time discerning any difference.

[turbid cliff]

they do spawn

[obtuse surge]

the game still being actively punishing on killing fast makes it pretty unnoticeable

the small wave just immediately starts time for the next one and killing anything makes it go even faster

[turbid cliff]

makes it seem like it's made to counter new mine deployer more than anything

[hollow socket]

I was under the impression the waves were getting more intense (bigger) on diminished scan.

[obtuse surge]

that's a thing for a lot of alarms

but for relative wave size it's most noticeable on the diminished ones yeh

[atomic escarp]

Diminished alarms spread the enemies in 2 waves (or more idk, haven't tested the 1 in D2). Very easy to see on A3 Z44 door as you must defend 2 sides

tl;dr they come from more sides than just one so more funnels required

[hexed vapor]

Literally every alarm does that.

0.2 chance to randomize group position.

[solemn wigeon]

kek I noted down all the content that my trio discovered in d1 and its massive

[obtuse surge]

you're massive

[solemn wigeon]

:(

[dark bane]

What are the powercells used for in b4

[solemn wigeon]

Unlocking additional resource zones in phase 2

[dark bane]

does it help w/ lights going out?

[solemn wigeon]

no

[clear idol]

how many codes are C3 Terminals

and is it same terminal for codes the whole time?

[orchid sorrel]

3 codes per terminal. Same terminal the whole time for the connected terminal.

[dark bane]

is there any particular reason to grab both powercells in b4 then? couldnt we just grab one cell

[orchid sorrel]

It's mainly just for the resource rooms in phase 2

you don't need to grab any in you wanted

[modest aspen]

wait Sawed off Shotgun has 3 rounds???

[orchid sorrel]

yeah?

[modest aspen]

So it isn't a Double Barrel Shotgun???

day ruined

[orchid sorrel]

it's a triple barrel

[modest aspen]

ok

Forgiven

[sick hornet]

whats the gimmick with D2?

[forest horizon]

Nah it's 4 cfoams

[fallen badger]

B4 best map

change my mind

[solemn wigeon]

B2 High best map

[surreal halo]

MAP IS MAP

[calm coral]

alright let’s talk about r5e1

now that everyone has had a chance to check it out lmao

[solemn wigeon]

Wrong

I'm still working for completions

[calm coral]

ohhh

you only need up to c3

and d1

ofc

[solemn wigeon]

I've done C3

I just havent done C1 or c2

[calm coral]

ohh okay

c1 sucks

[calm vessel]

you need 11 high for E1

[solemn wigeon]

1 high imagine :(

[calm coral]

id rather do d2 than c1

ngl

[solemn wigeon]

D2 is super fun

[calm coral]

I agree

I have yet to complete it but it’s so much fun

[solemn wigeon]

Trying to do it 3man without cfoam or mines sucks

[calm coral]

i’m still not sure on the loadout

I think you might be able to get away with using no mines

but mines are probably better than a second sentry

[solemn wigeon]

We made it past wave 2 of reactor without mines so yeah its possible

But mines do help a lot with the first half of the level

[calm coral]

yeah

gotta get there first lmao

[solemn wigeon]

Cringe alarm smh

[calm coral]

you mean the class 9?

[solemn wigeon]

Yh

[calm coral]

I haven’t had too much difficulty with it

you just gotta leave the doors open or mined

never closed without mine

[solemn wigeon]

You need mines for that

[calm coral]

true then open all of them

if they get to stack up they’re deadly

but a diminished alarm is fine with just weapons

[solemn wigeon]

I mean they stack up anyway

You are going to be dealing with effectively standard wave cap

By the time the bc arrives

[calm coral]

i felt like we didn’t have as many issues but it’s probably because we had four players chipping away at them

[solemn wigeon]

It's not that bad with 3 players either but we don't bring the right stuff

[calm coral]

well, good luck but also bring a 4th

[solemn wigeon]

The room afterwards tho

[calm coral]

how many of the e1 surprises did you discover so far

[solemn wigeon]

I've not been spoiled yet

[calm coral]

I’ll keep it that way

[keen rampart]

Should i

[solemn wigeon]

I'll leave so you can discuss :^)

[calm coral]

I’ve seen two big changes from normal mechanics so far

the rest remains to be seen

[atomic escarp]

What have you found so far?

[calm coral]

the very very start ofc

and then the “modified waves”

[atomic escarp]

On E1 or just in general?

[calm coral]

e1

[atomic escarp]

Gotcha

Yeah E1 is a good level, I love the ending

[calm coral]

i’ve seen it on stream

visually it’s so cool

ngl

[keen rampart]

I like e1 but i was surprised that it was not that hard. I like r4e1 more. Dont know why

[sinful hamlet]

does anyone have any tips for B1 2 players? we get to the terminal but everything falls apart trying to find/get to the hsu.

[normal rampart]

Speed and effective weaponry for the bigs. Close doors and mine them if you get the chance while one checks the terminal. What specials did you two bring?

[nocturne flax]

B1 high just bring a hel gun

[west crow]

bring a hel rifle

[nocturne flax]

Bitch

[west crow]

skip the biotracker

[nocturne flax]

Fuck the warden

B1 high bring a helgun, funnel correcrly for the error and you should take care of the error wave pretty easily 1 sniper sentry and maybe a mine or bio

The error part its more gun fight than tool usage

[west crow]

that's why you should skip the biotracker

bring the hel rifle 😎

[nocturne flax]

Beep more like deek

Got em

[west crow]

ADMINS

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[nocturne flax]

Dont skip bio

!!!!!!!!

[west crow]

where's your e1 guide blackdragon

kawaii tank 🙂

[nocturne flax]

Watxh professor scaler for guides

[west crow]

he doesn't have a sexy voice like you do

[nocturne flax]

A non threatening slightly european voice?

[west crow]

exactly

non threatening slightly european voice is the most satisfying voice for american players

[nocturne flax]

¹null

Keboard broke kekw

[west crow]

keboard

[nocturne flax]

Saussageee fingr

[fringe thunder]

Did black dragon just say to skip bio tracker

:0

I kid I kid. Makes sense for 2man

[turbid cliff]

2man bio-mines meta since R2

[errant vigil]

Blackdragon224 is a scalie so I don’t watch him

[calm vessel]

lol

[nocturne flax]

🥵 🥵

I didnt even know what a scalie was until 2 months ago

[calm vessel]

thats a skin disease right?

[pulsar zodiac]

I should not have searched for it

[sterile cargo]

Does anyone know what happens if you dont immediatly extract at E1 ending

[nocturne flax]

Snatcher

[granite token]

I played and finished C3 Extreme, what is the error wave after the nframe?

[paper beacon]

dn

[sand widget]

Hey got a question
Which order is the objectives in A3?
Do you do high bulkhead first, then extreme or what?

[normal rampart]

Overload, extreme, high

But technically you could do extreme before overload (although you probably shouldn't)

[normal rampart]

Is that all good?

[sand widget]

@normal rampart Yes thank you

[hexed vapor]

Seemed plenty hard imo, just a lot different than R4E1 in terms of what you're doing.

R4E1's main objective was probably easier, tbh.

[keen rampart]

R4E1 and r5e1 are both levels that i really like. But Overall i can agree with you in some Points that r5e1 is harder. But its like every other Level, if you know a good tactic then it is kinda easy

[hexed vapor]

I mean, you can kind of say the same thing about R4E1?

I don't think I'd play either E tier w/ randoms, you do need a certain degree of execution.

[keen rampart]

I dont think anyone is playing e1 with randoms xD

[granite token]

What is the error wave on the C3 Extreme after nframe?

[lyric narwhal]

a lot

[granite token]

ok

[hexed vapor]

||4 or 5 (don't remember) strikers, with a chance for hybrids instead.||

[lyric narwhal]

||he means after you put the sphere in||

[hexed vapor]

Oh

||Yeah, I think you about got it.||

[tulip tiger]

I just have to say that in E1, ||I love the 2 mothers, then 2 tanks in the next room, and then the charger scout in the room after that||, y'know? very fun after an error alarm ||with a hybrid almost every wave for at least 12 waves||

[lyric narwhal]

yeah its great :>)

[tulip tiger]

yeah, the c-foam nade went straight through the ||chargerscout's|| chest @lyric narwhal

[nocturne flax]

Just aim better 4head

[sacred slate]

Why are you spoiling shit in spoiler chat?

[uneven thunder]

they don't brute force the c3 high code

cringe

[lean leaf]

[frigid bolt]

Would anyone be able to make suggestions for a loadout for b2 discharge?

[atomic escarp]

Depends on which layer you're going to do

[fresh snow]

-At least 1 Hel rifle is a good choice all around. You'll find plenty of titans and hybrids in the normal objective and if you do extreme/overload, it will become very difficult to not set them off. 1 person with a Hel rifle/gun also makes the scan for Z81 trivial as they can solo hold the wave coming from the ladder.
-Tool-wise mines are good for the blood doors and for pulling rooms quickly in overload.
-Cfoam becomes very useful for a scan in overload and can help with the scans in high and terminals in ext. However, you can probably make do with the cfoam nades you fine.
-Bio is very useful for extreme and over.
-Sentries are never a bad choice. Lean towards auto (for stagger) or sniper (for titans/hybrids)

[forest horizon]

So what is the actual strategy for c3 uplinks

Feel like the waves spawn too fast for defending against both doors to be viable

[candid pelican]

sentries'

[forest horizon]

I was able to do it with kiting but I assume you're meant to hold your ground while people get the codes

[robust marsh]

C3 is ment to be the level that you rely on your tools

[candid pelican]

^

[forest horizon]

So 2 sniper sentries?

[robust marsh]

but the game doesn't give you useful tools to kill so its bad

[forest horizon]

On each door

One on each I mean

[robust marsh]

i mean if you have the boosters...

[candid pelican]

I did 2 snipers and a foam i think

[robust marsh]

the CPU boosters

cfoam is needed for the level

[forest horizon]

Yeah for sure

[candid pelican]

spraying cfoam on the floor during uplink helps a lot

[robust marsh]

i still think the level has a flaw but...

it has one of the best map tiles in the game

SOOOOO ITS GOOD

GJ who ever made that tile

[forest horizon]

How many enemies even spawn for the uplinks

Never counted

[robust marsh]

i mean... how many enemies is the cap?

the cap never changes

as i know

[forest horizon]

Can't be 30 lol

[robust marsh]

i mean

[forest horizon]

They spawn literally every 5 seconds iirc

[robust marsh]

i bet my life that devs cant beat the level

(:

[forest horizon]

Yeah there is no way

[robust marsh]

i just saw D2 the other day

ya....

na they cant beat any of the levels

not on any difficulty higher than high

[queen field]

Wowowowowow hold on, they must clear B-tier levels first

[robust marsh]

you got a point man

ya

they have to have a PE for it

lol

[forest horizon]

Wanna see devs do b2 pe

[robust marsh]

na i saw A1 i had enough

[forest horizon]

But that's probably impossible lol

[calm vessel]

[robust marsh]

ahhh dont be sad its just the truth

and i dont really mind

there devs after all

[forest horizon]

I wanna see Ludvig carry a pe mission by kiting everything

[robust marsh]

i dont think they can with default FOV

[forest horizon]

Yeah it's never gonna happen

But it would be fun to watch

[mossy yoke]

We've internally playtested all the levels, and beat them as we intended

[forest horizon]

Then why do the devs never do any difficult missions and play like brand new players on stream 🤔

[candid dragon]

it feels like they're hamming it up on purpose.

its clear they dont want to set the meta, and leave it to the players.

[forest horizon]

Idk I just wanna see a dev stream where they tackle a hard mission

It's boring to see them do baby shit like A1 or B2 high

[candid dragon]

i want to see them do b4.

[forest horizon]

But that's just my opinion

[robust marsh]

but the meta is already set

[candid dragon]

well rather, i dont think they want to "shift" the meta.

[nocturne flax]

Because theyre trying to show theyre game its fun anf light hearted

Leave the tryhard shit to us the community

[forest horizon]

I'm not saying they shouldn't do that

Just be more varied with the stream

Do like D1 high or something

[nocturne flax]

That like asking hugo martin to go play the hardest level/difficulty and speedrun it

[forest horizon]

Not even that lol

[nocturne flax]

Considering most of the people who playa re stuck on B tier

It makes sense theyll stream b tier level imo

[robust marsh]

well saying that the last few levels are from ||............|| all the other levels are way too off from meta and such that you really think they dont know how the game works

[nocturne flax]

What

[mossy yoke]

pretty sure we did that on one of the streams

[forest horizon]

There isn't any reason they can't do c or d tier

[robust marsh]

dang i missed it

[candid dragon]

found it

[nocturne flax]

Imagine thinking theres a meta

[mossy yoke]

There's also a diff between being an elite player that can tackle the higher tiers (even as devs), and being able to play and keep chat entertained (which likely won't be as entertaining and we wouldn't be able to answer as many questions and engage with chat if we did)

[nocturne flax]

Also the memes

[mossy yoke]

There's a common misconception in the gaming industry that just because you make hte game, means you're the best player ever

[forest horizon]

Lol

[robust marsh]

wasn't gtfo ment to be for elites?

the obj of the game was for that

[nocturne flax]

Lmao

No

[robust marsh]

as i know it was

[nocturne flax]

No

[mossy yoke]

elite does not mean a challenging game

[forest horizon]

I'll be waiting for my E1 dev stream

[mossy yoke]

that's something else I've seen the community do here a lot, is gatekeep the difficulty of the game where they want A and B tiers to be as hard as D or E tiers and want F, G, etc tiers

which would mean that there would be no one playing the game

[nocturne flax]

Yo we have g tier

[calm vessel]

i like yo cut G

[nocturne flax]

Docres comfirmed

[calm vessel]

they have the freshest hair cuts there

[candid dragon]

press F to disrespect

[west crow]

I don't really think anyone has asked for the A and B tiers to be as difficult as the C and D tiers outside of being sarcastic. Balancing difficulty around both casual and hardcore gamers is difficult, but I believe R5 has at least showed the progress the developers have made in understanding that difficulty. The earlier tiers are difficult but approachable for newer players while the later tiers are mostly designed towards and for the opposite demographic. I hope they keep this pattern up for future rundowns.

[candid dragon]

i like the difficulty of the extensions more than the main paths.

longer mains, shorter optionals

whenever you have huge hulking missions on both sides it is really easy to get fatigued with a particular mission

[west crow]

I agree, I believe the extensions offer a more straightforward and enjoyable experience

the base levels have their moments, but sometimes it feels those levels suffer on experience for the sole purpose of just adding more optional sectors

i.e. B1 would be a great level if it was just high and overload imo

[candid dragon]

i take issue with A3 overload not significantly adding anything to extreme or high.

[west crow]

A3 has remnants of the problem optional difficulties have when they feel forced in terms of adding nothing unique to the experience

[candid dragon]

i think they really nailed c3 all and b4

but i wish there was some way of forcing the counter faster on b4.

[west crow]

I agree, C3's optional felt fluid alongside its high

[candid dragon]

like a terminal command to skip to the next phase and spawn everything faster.

with a good party it just sorta feels like you

are waiting around

[west crow]

B4 was something new so I didn't expect it to be flawless

[candid dragon]

i like how it feels like you're dancing to the developers tune in b4.

interesting.

[west crow]

B4 is a one and done experience that lacks replayability in terms of depth

[candid dragon]

agreed, its very hard to play it differently.

[west crow]

Removing the ability to control pacing playerside is a double edged sword. It either offers pressure to what you do or it ends up being tedious and the player ends up waiting around feeling annoyed more than anything.

while tension normally subsides the more you play a level, levels with restricted pacing suffer the most

I hope if and when they do another level like b4 again, they're able to polish it a bit better

[candid dragon]

i would like it more if there weren't teamscans on every door

except for the door outside extract

[forest horizon]

Maybe if there were optional objectives you could do if you're fast enough it would be more interesting

[candid dragon]

ive an idea

put a bulkhead door inside the extract room

[forest horizon]

That would be cool

[candid dragon]

once everyone is in, bulkhead closes behind you

level continues

get to new forward extract

[forest horizon]

Yeah that would be awesome ngl

Just having alternate forward extracts would be neat

Or even you go to forward extraction and the scan breaks or something and you have to go back to restore the security system or something

[atomic escarp]

Was there really a normal tank in E1? My video got corrupted and I don't have 3 hours to just get to that point

[dapper dagger]

Yes

[rain heron]

hey guys any new enemy in the new levels? or only the scout and bags?

[forest horizon]

No new enemy

Snatcher maybe R7

[rain heron]

weren't the snatchers just the sleepers but called in a different way?

thanks by the way.

[forest horizon]

no snatcher is supposed to be a unique enemy

[rain heron]

oh ok

[quiet stone]

play it and find out

[atomic escarp]

R4 C1 but faster

Also better designed

[obtuse surge]

is R5B4 the only expedition we've gotten with big shooters in waves?

after 5 rundowns they actually did it

[ancient marlin]

so more or less a case of rushing through shadows to inject the datasphere error alarm from uplinks replaced by shadow error alarm?

[atomic escarp]

c3 double burst setup anyone?

[wanton hamlet]

anyone found the terminal in C3, zone 376E? I looked everywhere for clues but no avail

can't figure out the password

[candid pelican]

Would you like to know what the password is or how to get to the password?

[wanton hamlet]

both, i guess

[candid pelican]

How to find it: ||C2 audio log||

Password: ||RESIST||

[wanton hamlet]

oh dangit!!! i knew it was from scheffer but i can't remember the code he gave us

thanks, flare

[candid pelican]

No prob

[wanton hamlet]

i'll have to get my buddies to go back again 😄

[candid pelican]

It's def worth it

[hexed vapor]

Both. Schaeffer is clearly refering to sleepers, but there was an enemy called the snatcher in very early builds of the game.

[hasty vale]

Any tips for loadouts/strats for b4? I feel like my team is just too slow with doing objectives and we die by the time the first 10mins are up

[orchid sorrel]

My team has done it with bio tracker, mine deployer, auto sentry, and sniper sentry in terms of tool. For weapons, just choose ammo efficient weapons.

[hasty vale]

👍

[stoic egret]

Snatchers (aka Cave Leeches) :P

[sick hornet]

D2 first alarm

[sick hornet]

mines are very busted, try to clear as many waves as possible with a mine on doors

[wary current]

i used double mine deployer, whole team sticks together so enemy pathing is easy to work out
mines take care of almost everything

are there any maps in the extension where 100% infection resist is useful? holding some boosters but in the original maps i didn't find any need for them

[sharp wave]

Probably E1?

[wary current]

does it prevent the initial infection, or only later once you've disinfected?

[queen field]

It does prevent initial infection

[fluid tide]

i was soloing B1 PE, 3 hours in im at the last blood door and I fuckin die

[queen field]

f

[granite token]

What did you do to the ||tanks|| at D2? Run away or fight them like a man? 😄

[granite token]

f

[queen field]

run with them

[granite token]

i see

[bold widget]

the lore terminal in d1

is it an audio or text log

[candid pelican]

Text log

From what I know, the lore terminal is in a lockdown room which opens after you complete reactor shutdown

[bold widget]

got ya

[halcyon void]

As someone who's probably not going to reach E1, what's Influx Protocol? Anything interesting?

[harsh pelican]

the command description is "Synchronously awaken all available KSOs in KDS Deep 1", the command itself activates the elevator and removes all the fog from the level

[hasty vale]

what's a KSO?

[harsh pelican]

Presumably Kovac Service Operative/Officer? dunno, either way all the HSU hooks in the area near the terminal in are empty

so the Warden just wanted them to clear the fog and get to the elevator to go deeper

[rich estuary]

Where da body go

Or was legion never fully implemented?

[thick burrow]

yes

[left yacht]

the creatures in this game are kind of gross tbh

[clear idol]

[quasi citrus]

you get used to them

[bold widget]

Nah they handsome

Especially the thick boys <3

[royal violet]

big mamacitas

[devout citrus]

Does fog affect part of the complex if you do Overload before extrême in A3?

[hollow socket]

Just the Hub zone with the 3 terminals

Zone 39 I think

[devout citrus]

Not that bad then

[summer lodge]

any tips for b4? still new to this

[robust marsh]

run hammer dont die

also dont have a lot of plans

[lost holly]

Everybody has a plan until he gets smacked in the face

• john

[solemn wigeon]

Disinfection is now available hopefully so get infected as much as you want :^)

[wet ravine]

Remember, when someone says they have plan while playing B4, don't trust em

Well, most of the times

[leaden mango]

Do you have to do both optional Objectives in A3 to finish the Main one? We did the extreme part but couldn't finish the main objective, and the only cells we found to get to Zone 43 was in the Overload part, thoughts?

[obtuse surge]

Zone 43 is optional

Not required for any objectives

There's a cell behind the high bulkhead

[ancient marlin]

isnt zone 43 where you get the other password for the terminal?

iirc the first was in 40 with 42 being optional as its a disinfection station after overload given no disinfect packs

[pulsar zodiac]

so which levels needed the hotfix

[hollow socket]

Someone posted a Screenshot of A2 extreme being changed

[pulsar zodiac]

oh

[obtuse surge]

oh

well i just got confused then because zone 43 wont need a cell in that case

[atomic escarp]

Can you guess the password and finish the mission early?

[dreamy bramble]

there are only a couple hundred codes

would probably take you just a few hours

[atomic escarp]

Where can I look it up?

[dreamy bramble]

wait you actually want to do it

lmao

[atomic escarp]

Im thinking that the game has a flag that sets whether the objective item was solved then password got released. So there's no way to guess it.

[dreamy bramble]

nope

people have bruteforced reactors before

also a few clips of unbelievable rng

[atomic escarp]

lol

[leaden mango]

That's the thing, we looked for Cells in zones we could access, and couldn't find one to get to 42 -> 43
without doing Overload lol

[solemn wigeon]

42 is a Resource zone

43 just requires the bulkhead key

[candid dragon]

there's no check for A3, but if you have the worst rng, itl take about an hour to try every guess.

700 words, 7 seconds roughly per code.

[solemn wigeon]

Just get terminal speed

[candid dragon]

about 81 minute with perfect awful rng.

[solemn wigeon]

Get +100% terminal use and its ez half the time

[candid dragon]

and the other half of the time takes ages.

[obtuse surge]

i guess the infection on E1 literally is just from getting infected while loading

[pulsar zodiac]

5 sec load time meta

[obtuse surge]

i don't get fully infected when i drop in by myself

i get just above 70

[atomic escarp]

it can differ for some reason, depends how quick you load

[obtuse surge]

so dumb

[pulsar zodiac]

optimise the loading speed

[atomic escarp]

i wouldn't say that's dumb, if you solo it'll be quicker, if you go in with several people it's gonna take longer to load in

[obtuse surge]

its most certainly dumb

when it could just be set from the start

[atomic escarp]

I don't know if they have that in their arsenal, would be best to ask D0c or get in contact with another dev

[obtuse surge]

current code not allowing it doesn't mean it's not possible

[fringe thunder]

It could be done simple by having the fog not be there then be lowered/raised into position once you actually spawn in. That is a mechanic already in game, that fog can move up and down when triggered by an in game event

[obtuse surge]

no

literally make it actually good

and have it set infection to a set value when dropping into the level

[atomic escarp]

If you have a suggestion in your opinion to make the infection more constant in E1 you're more than welcome to use #gtfo-game-suggestions

[obtuse surge]

the devs are smart enough to know that their workaround is a workaround

and will likely change it eventually

they were probably just fine with it for now

[leaden mango]

So can you even go to 43 after doing extreme? Or whatever you can choose, if you don't choose the main objective right away? We ended up finding the HSU or whatever it's called, having sleepers spawn all the time but couldn't get to the last terminal to get the last password.

[obtuse surge]

you get a cell in the zone with the last terminals

[leaden mango]

I guess we just missed it, we like double checked all the locations shrugs Thanks for the tip though.

[hollow socket]

43 is High Bulkead, 42 is ressource zone where you need the cell

You need to find the bulkhead key in extreme to open 43 (if you're doing extreme)

in 43, you have the cell to be able to open 42 if you want to

[leaden mango]

So just use the same Bulkhead Door Controller?

[hollow socket]

yes

Its a bulkhead dc for both High and Extreme

[rocky fable]

does anyone feel like layered difficulty made the game worse

[sick hornet]

some people do, and I think its mostly the way it was implemented

it added length, not difficulty

[rocky fable]

i started playing in r3, finished it and replayed it a lot. with r4 I felt like most levels just added an error alarm and nothing else. I havent even had the motivation to touch most of r5

i only played a tier and didnt even do the layered difficulty

[nocturne flax]

layered difficulty its been pretty good this rundown apart from some levels

[errant vigil]

c1

[rancid basalt]

do enemies respawn if you leave at least one enemy in the area?

[rocky fable]

I think the devs somewhat realized that cuz some of the extension levels have no layered

[fringe thunder]

I agree

[past axle]

Anyone got the state of truth log from e1?

[lost holly]

@tropic raptor

mf has the entire game recorded

[tropic raptor]

#gtfo-lore message

[dire notch]

what do you do in E-1?
like, whats the objective

[orchid sorrel]

terminal command

[lyric narwhal]

its basically point a to point b

[candid pelican]

Then b to a probably. Never got to the terminal myself

[lyric narwhal]

the extraction is right next to the terminal

[paper harness]

why did they not make it compulsory to do both sides in b4 instead of just not grabbing cells and circle kiting the entire wave for 15 minutes

make the phase 2 door a dual generator door and put 2 key cards in each zone

[hasty moth]

Question about D2: After the third code, what the actually hell is the reactor verification code? Does it tell you on the term or something?

[queen nymph]

I mean, no one asks you to circle kite :/

[queen nymph]

It just tells you the code directly lol

[paper harness]

I mean LFGs will always look for the path of least resistance and look to cheese everything possible

[hasty moth]

Ok I was freaking out thanks!

[queen nymph]

That’s their choice I guess. I don’t think beginners know how to circle kite and it only happens when a vet player just randomly starts doing it

So that’s vet players problem and can’t really do anything about it :/

[errant vigil]

^

[paper harness]

I mean the solution is literally just make the 2 door objectives compulsory to do

instead of circumventing the entire mechanic of the whole level

[errant vigil]

Don't play it that way if you don't want it to be like that

[paper harness]

what a stellar argument

thanks for your contribution

[errant vigil]

yw

[queen nymph]

I mean, either way, circle kite will exist in any maps as long as someone wants to do it

[orchid sorrel]

just because you can kite an alarm doesn't mean they should make all alarm scans team scans to stop people from kiting

[paper harness]

the problem isn't that you can kite an alarm

[orchid sorrel]

it's like that. You can kite some alarms but you don't need to

[paper harness]

it's that you can kite an alarm to circumvent doing the entire level

and just kite for 30 minutes and extract

without having to engage with the level at all

[queen nymph]

Yeah, but well.

[orchid sorrel]

same thing with kiting alarms

[errant vigil]

do I have to go into every resource zone to be considered beating the level

[paper harness]

lmao you're literally completely missing the point

[worldly cargo]

plus kiting only for 30 minutes is really sad, and unbearably boring. I doubt many groups with 4 people out there would rather kite than actually trying at the level

[queen nymph]

Always

[paper harness]

most groups I've gone with just want to do 1 cell 1 door and then extract after kiting half the waves

[queen nymph]

You don’t know what mad man would do for a level 😂

[worldly cargo]

isn't that like, a choice you are given on the level?

[errant vigil]

it's the same with r4e1 ex where you could have just circle kited the whole reactor

[worldly cargo]

you c a n choose 1 cell 1 door, just means you get 1 less resource room

[paper harness]

and that's why they don't put only small strikers in reactors anymore

because R4 E1 reactor was a complete joke

[queen nymph]

I thought we have to do terminal uplink when I saw terminals in phase two zones 😂😂😂

[errant vigil]

you know you can just kill the bigs until cap and circle kite them

[worldly cargo]

^^^

[worldly cargo]

same for your B4 conundrum. They give you the big biomass big boys wave

[paper harness]

when it's completely irrelevant at 3 minutes to extract

and there's like 8 giants

[paper harness]

but with B1 reactor and D2 reactor the alternative of shooting them is just much better because of the low resources and hybrids/giants being in waves, whereas R4 E1 kiting literally had no downside to it

[worldly cargo]

the giants take like 10 seconds to deal with . Put em too close to extract and everyone would just b-line straight for the door. Not close enough and it'll be the same story, or like, "irrelevant"

[paper harness]

not sure what you mean but one wave of 8 giants 3 minutes away from extraction doesn't make the level unkitable

there's literally 4 ammopacks in each side zones but not ever a need to use them because of there being 3 giant waves in the entire level

the level has a good concept but the execution was not done very well

would be nice to see them introduce it later down the line as a D level and actually make it compulsory to do side zones

[queen nymph]

If you long kite it

Then yeah

[orchid sorrel]

just play it the way it's intended to be played

[queen nymph]

My team enjoys it because we refuse to long kite

[paper harness]

imagine being able to find a lfg team that's willing to do double doors

wouldn't that be nice

[clear idol]

just get a consistent squad ez

[worldly cargo]

just give in to the pack, skip out on one door and shoot outside, ez

[queen nymph]

I give up on playing in lfg so that’s no longer a problem for me 😂

[clear idol]

lfg leads to finding people to squad up with and then boom you can just start to avoid lfg LOL

[queen nymph]

The only cheese I hate to see is the hitting enemies behind the wall

Or long kite in A and B Tier which does nothing but waste time

Except B4 because no matter what you do, it’s gonna be 30 mins min.

[paper harness]

a little hard to find a consistent group when you have around 4 total players in the OCE playerbase

[worldly cargo]

find players from other continents

latency is not the worst thing in the world, you can get by

[paper harness]

yeah because NA is literally on the other side of the world and if I want to play with players in NA in the evening then I'll have to be playing from 5 am onwards

sounds reasonable

[clear idol]

Why play with NA? Could try asia or eastern europe etc

[worldly cargo]

^^

[clear idol]

find what works best for you

[paper harness]

amirite

[clear idol]

like im a NA player but i mostly play with europeans, theres work arounds

[worldly cargo]

asia's like, 3 hours away from you. Do that instead

[paper harness]

eastern europe is 350ms from OCE because of the awful routing

and you see like a post an hour on the lfg-asia

I know it sounds like I'm complaining a lot but the logistics of finding a consistent group to play with around the world when everyone has things to do in their life is hard than you think

[clear idol]

no I understand LOL

youll find people though dw

[keen hazel]

is B4 alarm infinite

[glacial cloak]

it stops when extract opens

though if there are still enemies queued then they'll spawn

probably.

[hexed vapor]

Pretty sure the final surge on E1 isn't randomized, btw.

Looks like every video (and my run) had it in the same spot on 3rd scan.

At least it's consistently that hard to deal with.

Also, Jesus, so many people used boosters on their runs.

[paper beacon]

I think it's called an S S1 class IV scan so prolly the first S means set scan?

[obtuse surge]

@paper harness just make the group aware of how doable fighting is

you have enough resources in just your main zones to kill everything

[hexed vapor]

It's an S instead of S1, so maybe, might also be a typo though.

[obtuse surge]

if you get good enough at combat you completely disagree with kiting being the safest thing

fucking running around with 25 of those bastards

it's risky af compared to just ending their lives

it's why people keep failing that shit

it's not actually easy to kite for 30 minutes with 25 enemies

[paper harness]

I'd tend to agree, a lot of people actually suck at aiming so they just try to kite everything

I see a lot of people trying to hammer in alarms and it's just worse than shooting unless you're really strapped on resources like C3

[hexed vapor]

I mean, hammering is pretty free if you know what you're doing, but most people don't.

You need pretty open space for it, too.

[obtuse surge]

there were a couple times i circle kited to melee a bunch in my solo

and i fucking pissed my pants doing it

only did it because empty mags and no fast way to get a reload off

[hexed vapor]

Clearly haven't done it enough, it's not very hard, just hard to get spaces where you can do it consistently.

[obtuse surge]

very false

since collision they can be pushed back into range

there's always risk to it

[hexed vapor]

Maybe if you have near mob cap, but if you have a more typical number like 10 you'll probably be fine.

And you can just widen the circle.

[obtuse surge]

yeh but the waves on B4 will go to cap

[hexed vapor]

Yeah, on B4 only really useful early on.

[obtuse surge]

they won't use the general 10 = no more waves

the first waves are around 10

but instead of kiting them

just kill them

[hexed vapor]

Sure, but you can do that while circle kiting.

It's not very hard imo.

[obtuse surge]

same for shooting

and you get to keep them at range

[hexed vapor]

but not very useful for pugs since they'll try to do it too and probably lose all of their health.

[obtuse surge]

doing it with multiple people also adds the risk that they re-target during an attack

while shooting with multiple people only makes shit easier

[urban veldt]

hey my team and I just hit e1 and mucking around, was wondering if the entire mission requires you to manage with max infection

or is there disinfect somewhere

[harsh pelican]

there's a disinfection station in zone 530

where you disable the first error alarm

there's also a few disinfect packs in 541 so you don't have to backtrack all the way if you get infected again

[urban veldt]

oh okay, when we briefly dropped we were reminded of r1d1 lol

thx!

so I guess running for the first set of scans would be ideal

*r2d1

[harsh pelican]

practically you're not going to be able to disinfect before everyone's at 15% health

unless you have some nutty infection resist boosts

[urban veldt]

I see

nah all the boosters I ever get are tool ammo haha

thx for tip though

[mortal granite]

it's kind of exhausting on E1 if it's your first/second/third gamethrough if you don't know anything about the level

[hasty moth]

Hey guys so in A2, there's a robot. And I keep seeing that robot in other places, can we make him do something? Or does he just stand around and look ominous?

[atomic escarp]

The robot is just an asset, you can't make it do anything

[hasty moth]

Darn, I was hoping to fight him in E1 or something. Like a boss battle or to at least see him move.

[pulsar zodiac]

#gtfo-media message

maybe

[hasty moth]

This is AMAZING thank you for showing me this

[wispy bane]

is there really a command to turn off the endless error alarms? or is it just a myth? xd

[dreamy bramble]

on some levels

[pliant shard]

[solemn wigeon]

E1 really got me feeling different

Still got z541-z545 to go but its fun

[dire notch]

so what does the Influx Protocol represent? what does it do?
do we know yet?

[pseudo mantle]

turns out the fog glitch still works

that's annoying

[green belfry]

Clap clap with E1 that map was an extremely tense run for us. Took about 3.3 hours going in blind. It was a well made map all the way through.

Now it is time for a break cuz it sucked my energy out

[queen field]

Next E-tier level : Oops! All fog

[green belfry]

fog is doable. Spitter be the enemy that must be annihilated

[queen field]

Fog, Spitters & Error alarms

The holy trinity of "how to make harder levels easily"

[solemn wigeon]

I mean, you got everything in E1

so

[queen field]

y e s

[solemn wigeon]

There's also only 1 zone with spitters I swear and its right at the start

[queen field]

1 zone is already too much

Gimme flamethrower or riot

[solemn wigeon]

but spitters are cute

[obtuse surge]

just cfoam them

[ancient marlin]

cfoaming spitters is a thing?

[brittle light]

wait what?

[dark bane]

for A3 Pe

is there a reason to go extreme before overload

[solemn wigeon]

No

[obtuse surge]

yes

if you cfoam a spitter it disables them for over a minute

[solemn wigeon]

No I'm saying no to derpy

[calm coral]

guys

any advice on zone 292?

in D2

we’re currently pulling the rooms

[sharp merlin]

Has anyone seen this glitch?

I was using a terminal with the audio file on it, i pressed a key to restart it and left the terminal while it was restarting

Now I can't interact with it at all

[orchid sorrel]

yep. that's a pretty common bug. You can fix it by leaving and coming back

[sharp merlin]

ty

[hexed vapor]

Similar strat as R4E1 Extreme, fight the first 3-4 rooms, then one person does solo stealth to find code while the other three defend for repeat waves.

[glossy vigil]

is there a particular level thats preferred to be used when wanting boosters?

[dreamy bramble]

you mean for farming them?

[glossy vigil]

yes

[dreamy bramble]

i'd say that all of the a-tiers and b1 have plenty of artifacts, and you can run through them really fast

[glossy vigil]

thank you ❤️

[solemn wigeon]

Quick question regarding the third err on E1, once you reach the appropriate door, are you able to turn off the alarm if you go back to spawn

[obtuse surge]

yes

[solemn wigeon]

So you get a choice to push forward or send someone back

[obtuse surge]

supposedly to reward those who've cleared the bosses

[solemn wigeon]

5head just cap the giants and send someone back solo

[obtuse surge]

still risky

[solemn wigeon]

True

And also running all the way back to spawn is a trek and a half

[obtuse surge]

E1 has a bunch of really questionable shit

[solemn wigeon]

:^)

[obtuse surge]

[solemn wigeon]

When we getting dark souls style "door does not open from this side" to make a shortcut back to spawn

[obtuse surge]

portals when

[solemn wigeon]

Pog

Gura second song when

[obtuse surge]

[solemn wigeon]

Still a shame they didn't make us hold out on extraction as one last fuck you

Very legit

[turbid cliff]

With floors and some more creative placement it'd be possible

Late zones right above early zones

One way drop
But probably not gonna happen

Zones in a looping manner, key on one side?

Think there was talk of that somewhere before

[brittle light]

or just having special doors that can be opened that are unnecessary but could provide shortcuts / different routes to the same end-area

[turbid cliff]

Various ways to do that, main problem is that we haven't got any zones with several entrances yet

[solemn wigeon]

Indeed

[turbid cliff]

Seeing how levels are generated that might be a problem to implement

[west crow]

It's sort of jarring not seeing a respawn room featured in r5e1. The pattern so far, in terms of e levels, is the levels themselves are a conglomerate of whatever was featured in the rundown. I might be wholely incorrect, but that's just what I've noticed personally.

[solemn wigeon]

The perfect room for it would have been z537 as well

But I think the error alarms are what stopped the respawn rooms from appearing

[turbid cliff]

We've only had 3 Es total but i kinda get that

[brittle light]

it could totally work tho, they'd just need to make it a big block instead of a small one, and inside of the big block it can generate smaller interconnected ones. We already have areas in the game - or had, last rundown - in which you had many small tunnels leading into each other and there wasn't one "correct path". Essentially that but a tad bit bigger and with less interconnectivity and we have it, no?

[turbid cliff]

I'm talking in terms of zones

[brittle light]

ah. True.

z123_A_1?

wouldn't help either actually

nevermind

[candid dragon]

"door is in emergency lockdown"

[vapid moon]

I thought the mom room was respawnable at first lol, it would've been a perfect anti long kiting element. It still is, but if you kill both moms like a mad lad then now you can map kite, but if it was a respawn room, then good luck.

[vapid moon]

I think the ending was very cinematic and rewarding after hearing the calm after the surge alarm. Kinda reminds me of r2e1 when hearing that completion screen after the chaos that is that god damn extract.

[pliant shard]

Now…. Where is roblox gtfo

[noble chasm]

not rly spoiler ig

are all overload doors alarm doors?