#gtfo-spoiler-chat
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SOMEONE that really likes blackhopping in pubs
even when it's cringe shit like r7c1 where you need everyone to bring a cell anyway
so unless everyone does it, there's no point
I've perhaps never said this but I'll say it now: fuck macros
I dont care that they're by now the norm and shilled even on keyboard
Macros are basically soft-cheating like rapid fire was for controllers
Let me introduce to you, the short rifle-
So efficiency
can't fail a run if i crash the game
Real...
Scatter would still win with a single key press

2 hours!! Gg
assault rifle user spotted
triple mg
First time it's pretty decent
Bots can handle that gun well so I never change it lol
yeah its one of the best guns for bots
ar on the other hand 
worst primary in the game lmao
It worked better than the double tap rifle in this level but ye ar does not do alot of damage.
are you one bursting smalls with dtr
It physically pains me to hear 3 bursts into a single small
No I use it for headshotting shooters and bigs not for smalls totally not worth the ammo
epic
For r2d2 idk if scattergun is worth it
most of your holds are long range so prob not
sniper sentry is your long range big kill option
I will keep that in mind
But will probably first beat r3a3 kinda similar mission
But way easier
I hate missions the most with perma alarm at start next on the list are reactors
I do not like reactor at all
Maybe that will change later I hear from alot of peaple that this is the best reactor level
ehh
Not for u ig
it being one of the first reactors should be telling of its quality
it's not bad by any means
mayb just a tad bit too bloated
Does every rundown have a reactor?
yeah
Ok...
reactor missions generally are the "harder" content of the game
it'll make more sense later
It took me 9 attempts to beat r1c1 solo with bots and 4 times to do it with my brother and 2 bots so that is one of the hardest missions I have beaten yet
So it already makes sense : )
Even r2c2 took us only 5 att
r2d2 will take you a couple of tries then
a lot of players get walled on that level
A3 is fine
yeah keep your expectations for success low for rn lol
Lowkey expect extraction wipe
I just thought that I have died at every extraction except r1: a1, b1, d1 and r2: a1, b1, b4 and c1
r2c2-r2e1 is probably the first hardest wall
So like 50% extraction wipe lol
Does feel like it ye
if you can clear those levels comfortably, you should be in good shape for a bit
17 minutes become 4 iirc, just keep it in mind
Will do
R4E1 Secondary best reactor mission
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LF2 R4B1 109775244812980676 β Team #350
Bruuhπ
pee pee pee
Hellow good Sir, how is your day?
Thats nice to hear
spoiler, that cat has been squished
I aint ready for R2D2 man 6 att for this
Yes please
Also I enjoy scattergun alot cause I always have alot of ammo with it and it kills bigs and hybrids 1 shot
So we conserve ammo in the other guns
scatter is busted
tho i wouldnt rly recommend it for R2D2 (or R3A3 tbh)
but on reactors you're usually killing things at range, so scatter is probably not the best giant killer
hel rifle or burst cannon tend to work better, and choke mod/high cal to a much lesser degree
unfortunately hel auto sentry is never the player for sentries either, you'll get more longevity and output out of burst sentries (and a sniper sentry helps with killing giants)
The bigs always get close before there dead when we play tho
also bullpup is kinda bad especially for reactors, its great while its up but the reload speed is so painfuk
with bullpup/mg if you get rushed without ammo in the clip u die
and if you have a gun to kill them at range, you can kill them before they get close
that may be part of the issue
We noticed that once ye
if you want a midrange spam weapon in your main slot, carbine is much better
I love carbine : )
based
Ye will change scattergun for d2 then
: (
π
Alr thx for the advice will sure use it
Expect the screenshot of completion in 1 week (or 2)
also spear is usually one of the weaker melee weapons. for reactors melee doesn't matter quite as much, but still something to consider
thats the spirit
My brother is terrible with any melee so the range for him is good
lmao
He kinda needs alot of training
just carry him
I'm doing that already lol
Every room with feller I'm the killer. And every room with plebs I kill like 10 and he 1-2.
But hey, atleast better than 3 bots
Get an HEL Rifle
It pens it's easy to use it has range and if in a pinch you can hipfire fine if you really really need to.
And ditch the bullpups
hel rifle is fair and balanced
What's the point of R6's "X" row of levels?
are they a continuation of the main campaign?
are they an alternative variant?
They were added after r6 release and they are an extension to it
No they were in original, they were named bx cx and dx, and in alt become ax bx and cx
no there are something called extensions in the og r6
that existed
so they were an update to the original r6?
just look up the wiki it tells you what they are
Yes
In OG R6 they were their own unique story line where you follow schaeffers early path
This changed with alt (far less lore focus as its ALT timeline)
huh i didn't know that
is alt a different timeline?
ye
so same objectives, slightly different lore?
you can consult the lore graph if you want to know more
Its in gtfo-lore
Ye
Oh, I didn't know about that
I'll check thanks
to you too
here you go
#gtfo-lore message
Another victim of gtfo-lore
Eeeeh
Try to avoid looking at that stuff
Honestly
R8 spoilers are to be avoided
essentially alt and og are two different timelines
I've heard R8 is some big final endgame
ye
which is weird because if i remember correctly they play the same
mostly
as far as I'm aware
Hopefully he won't go and talk that only orange(while they are yellow)levels matter and they are easier than others π
only orange(while they are yellow)levels matter and they are easier than others=
R8 is so challenging my group went out and got an R7E1 clear as a way to chill doing an "easier level" before getting back on the grind
It was truly something
tbh theres only 1 R8 mission truly more difficzlt than R7E1
tbh yes and no, I feel like you need even more level knowledge on those
doesn't || r8d2 || count?
R7E1, once you figured you had to kite pablo, I feel you can learn pretty quickly
well level knowledge in r7e1 has been a thing for over 2 years now
Noooo he is corrupted, execute him immediately while others didn't get this flu 
Also yes, but I was not one of the initiated
Nah
The highest alarm in sec is not the easiest way to do it
R8 made me a beter player ez
R8D2 with knowledge is incredibly simple
smh no need to flex
the biggest struggle is not being scattergunned on extract @fierce violet 
Biggest struggle is to outperform sniper sentry 
well tbf
Ive only learned these things about a week ago (havent rly played the missions since before release tbf)
eva is being EXTRA fair
tbf yea tbf
|| theres a few things to prioritize. But do class 7, take foggies
Then do the 2 further terminals (must) (close one is nice to have, but not priority) and finish the tscan first in dual scan (only go into central one after finishing tscan)
Then just daisy-chain spawns for extract. With 2 holding downstairs in extract door room (scatter and hel rifle preferably). ||
Spoilers for r8d2
riggle my hel
Well theres people here rn who havent played it
They know what chat they entered
it costs nothing to be nice
Tbf who really cares about spoilers, go smash your head against a wall from checkpoint
so we can look how people die and force game to crash or bug out 
It costs nothing to damage people mental health
i mean it is spoilerchat so as the saying goes, "those sloots were asking for it"
still salty I got r8 spoiled in general within the first 2 weeks
yeaaa
Spoilers go rampant
Imagine carrying about them
people sending pablo picks in media (even tho they were supposed to do so only in spoilerchat) was yikes during r7
@prisma zodiac there's a gargantua alarm in your future, be afraid
well now the game is done so pablo can go anywhere they want
people have different interests
some don't care about lore at all
me, i read logs during R8E1 waves
we are not the same π
I've never actually tried but what actually happens if the timer on R8E1 ends
and R8E2
For E1 ||the door unlocks and not much else I believe, maybe wave spawns keep going until you interact with door||
Funny wave
For E2 ||lmao nightmare surge||
E1 - specific wave keeps spawning until you reach warden door
E2 - || nightmare extreme alarm ||
they didn't have to make the update background banners so good
(looks best in full res)
Wait it was supposed to be a blood door?! I Always thought that its a HSU
Time to check your eyes before it's too late 
You have a case of jibbly-wobbly infection vision
Awww man. At First dentures and now glasses?
They come in pairs
Ligma is too strong within me
Random question, what levels have P-moms in them vs normal moms? Is it the R3 end boss? Trying to get the achievable and don't really know the difference
R3 end boss is pmom
If you play through the game normally you'll get her there
Pmom is the one that's bigger
normal mom is smaller
like the wiki seems to make it sound like it appears in other rundowns
bigger, more hp, spawns more babies more often
ye it does
pmom does appear in many places, there's a very funny way to get the achievement
funni way?
honestly I never noticed the diff when playing so yeah any tips on where else to get it
I know one or maybe 2 achievements tied to moms can be achieved by playing r7e1 due to nuke after teleport
oh sure, the one with the Mr X tank right?
pmom is massively bigger
has antler like appendages
Mom:
R3B2, R3D1, R4B1, R4B2, R4B3, R4C2, R4D1, R4E1, R5A2, R5C1, R5C2, R5D1, R5E1, R6C2, R6D2, R6D4, R7C2, R7D1, R7D2, R7E1, R8A2, R8B3, R8B4, R8E2
Pmom:
R3D1, R4E1, R5D1, R7D2, R7E1, R8A2, R8E2
i think those are all?
pmoms are heavily underused
i mean unlike shockers they have a good reason to not use them so often
shockers?
big flyers
oh
wait now that I think about it why aren't there more big flyers
are they just too hard to kill
when there's a lot of other stuff around
wut
they just get stuck in the air
is this the same thing with flyers going into the void
and just afk there
i don't think so
but yeah the pmom they use less out of it being a boss
the big flyer just out of complication
no
also for levels top 8 hardest
Top 8 is like what?
R8E2, R4E1, R5E1, R7E1, R2E1
then 3 spots for any of
R4C3, R5C2, R5D1, R5D2, R6C3, R6D4, R8C2 and R8D2 (honorable mentions for pre nerf R8B4) i guess?
R5A1: there's so many chargers scouts!
LMAOO
NAH
LMAOOOO
its og as well
R8B4 still is up there, tbh. I don't think any R6 levels or R5D2 are, as much.
its so hard to judge R8B4 for me as of rn tbf
ive only done the post nerf versions with premade teams and it was chill af
gotta do it with pubs
R6C3 with pubs (or unprepared people in general) always makes me worry way too much
r8d2 and c2 are still harder
idk why but for me r6c3 is so chill
pretty sure the screenshot of r7d2 it's also not r7d2
C2 is hard, but significantly easier to carry than R8B4 imo.
you can find most of the pictures by googling "gtfo" with the level name and checking the image search results
You can also still hard low roll on fogs.
thats so stupid LOL
Not to mention r5a1 is a guy literally on the wrong side of a door
i think a bit of the level difficulty just depends on what people struggle with at a certain point
only having 3 of the E-tiers in there is a crime tho when it was post R8... like thats 5 of the top 8 already ??
but hey at least they didnt add R8E1 and said "its the last E tier"
i'll ask it
the first answer was r4c1: Pillar
i think it's just spewing rundown levels with random titles and words
But genuinely, B-side R8 has most of the harder end of content in the game, even relative to some harder PEs elsewhere.
Rundown 3: R3C3 "The End"
As the name suggests, this level is notorious for its difficulty, featuring some of the most intense combat sequences and intricate puzzles in the game.
thank u chatgpt
i mean the easiest level on the R8 OG side is like R6D1 minimum of difficulty
please do
R6D1 "The end"
why does it like calling them "the end"
r1a1
π
no
dont say anything
i would never make a typo
There was a streamer yesterday that was stuck on R1A1
:3
First secondary π₯³
Hate the end died 3 times there (No extraction wipe tho)
stay winning king
it was annoying to find the HSU in zone 17, luckily zone 20 is much easier
My bro joined the discord finally
yeah the fact that zone 20 is just 2 rooms
ye and 17 like 4-5
and in zone 20 you get HSU's close to the terminal
We will : )
actually do we have a guide on zone 17
like what places to quickly check or it can literally be any
the possible spots are all known
where
π
Only speedrunners
Maybe also youtubers?
No one else need that, because you just run around shooting chargers while one player pings, or you brave enough to go check every HSU by your face
I know I did
every person who enters r3c1 pub\mm experience of their own volition
so basically me and every single idiot that does lfg-beginners
me every time we get zone 17 in matchmaking
not even hel rifle will save you
tbh
yes it will
i didnt take hel rifle i took hel gun
and when 2 guys wiped it was army of two experience
i really clicked with the random mm guy
all mute too
its great, just press matchmake
Like come on why is r3d1 an alarm from start just like r2c2 : (
It's better!
Does the alarm stay for the entire level or not? (I know there is a big mother boss)
I hope it is
Me scared bc it's a D continues alarm from start and the C one was HARD
R3D1 is one of the best levels in the game
So, let me think, is it the zone that starts with a ladder on the right?
i dont recall any ladders tbh
terminal is like way to the right its like a uturn almost
If so, possible C (last room) spawns, that I know, are, right close to the top door, down that staircase on the right and slope close to the center of that room
From my experience, it's usually the one on the slope or the one close to top door
half of it
yea i remember the top door one
but dont remember the other ones
its a ladder that leads up (other path is the staircase) right past sec door yes
I'm sure there's more but I've 19 clears on that map and most of the times it was 17, I got either HSU top door or on the slope.
i send smth in media
Amazing, but it is like R1A1, right? NO WAY they all have same weight
I never had it in B and that's even counting the times I failed that map
i dont remember what weight it is
its either 100% or ~99,99%
R1A1 has more balanced weight
(100% weight would be R1B2 for example btw)
π€ what?
Like I noticed that but
Then what's the point of the red hsus in your map?
we map them anyhow
it's still useful in case you get something there
eva keymapped r8a1, ignored first room because lmao the weight is so low, then in my solo speedruns I had a key spawn in A (I lost the run before getting to the key anyhow, but the example is there)
Oh so you can't get the actual % of how often it is?
I guess the data from those is from countless restarts because of logs
Nice
the weight for rooms is what we can get
19???? Wth
You can get the %s, but why not go the extra little steps to err on the side of caution
I like it, it reminds me of the alpha test map
some people have 100+ clears on missions
i probably average around 20 clears+ per mission or so
Makes you wonder why the level is called ALPHA doesn't it
I think level I have most clears on is either R1A1 at 100s or R1C1 at like 80ish
Why tho does it not become then like boring cause you know every possible pixel of the mission
eh take into account soloing
or just being bored
I solo R1B1 when I'm bored sometimes
- stuff still plays fun (ive got like 70 clears of R3D1)
- for challenge runs
- for helping other players
- SPEEED
and R1C1 is good to turn brain off, I just grab some newbie to put code in while I PR on the truck
Just play the randomizer
No

Could you make it so that it randomizes weapon stats only?
Yup
man i love my main that heals sleepers and my fully automatic 83 mag uberscattergun
Darkeva, where fun is verboten π©πͺ π€£
(just kidding)
what does it actually randomize
What shows up?
Also one other thing. I saw a video on yt about a mission called T2-D2. That's not canon gtfo right?
Thats modded
modded rundown
Every single time an enemy is placed for any reason, it gets replaced w/ something else.
W/ logic for various probabilities and exceptions.
How many mod missions are there?
ok so just enemy randomizing with a lil tweak
That seems fun at least
I hoped for it not twisting numbers of stats
A fuckton?
Ok, was asking cause I maybe want to check them out after a few rundows or so
It plays crazy well, + keeping existing scouts & bosses gives most levels a unique feel, + a chance for the randomizer to lock into spawning a specific enemy adds some character among the random spawns.
Id recommend only going into them once youve cleared the game
Ok
(I hope you are not saying that because there damn hard)
Fatal Experiment 2 
Redemption 
Legacy 
Chrysalis
Glaggle land
I miss thingymabob
Im a FE2 hater for life
Go play Redemption then
there's some that yes- but also cause they use everything the game has, so u can just get massively spoiled
and in general it's better to play em once u know the ins and outs of gtfo
like the burgers
I would enjoy Madness more if it wasnβt progression locked but I understand itβs for storytelling purposes
I would enjoy FE2 more if there wasn't 6 sextillion enemy types that are just renditions of kids scary drawings they made in 4th grade and bosses which are just 8 different enemy models combined into one then rouletted on the map
Fire Emblem 2?
ah fatal experiment
Yeah the levels feel like they were made just to be made
A question, I remember watching a fucktillion years ago some video of a modded rundown
It had warden text in multicolor and flashed "time to GTFO" text came in gradually
or something like that
Me and bro just died 3 times in a row at r3d1 when we put the neonate in and the mother spawns lol. (Its our only 3 deaths)
kinda cringy but I wonder what rundown was it
Get one of you with HEL Shotty
Get in a corner up
she comes, guy with hel shotty spawnkills babies
I have scattergun
Ok you can rush mom with that too as client
you can melt mother's hp then, as client at least
as host it's a little harder but still great
but spawnkilling babies is IMHO a bit easier to do
wtf does client and host make a difference?
will try next run
good to remember that mom has no attacks of her own, so if you kill all the babies you're safe until the next birth
eheheheheh
we noticed ye
wanna try with me once? I'm free for a bit
We just finished : (
This is kinda our first mother because the mother in R3B2 sleeps and with scattergun it was basically free
It only matters for pellet weapons
But basically - on host the damage registers faster, so if a pellet in one round breaks a tumour, the tumour instantly goes and the remaining pellets will likely hit armour
on client, the pellets all hit into the same tumour because of the delay
you either rush with scatter or spawnkill babies (or foam mine-nade I guess)
oh ok
c-foam you say hmm...
How to kill mother: pose 28
foam mine/nade cause they foam instantly
no normal foam
that'd be impractical lel
we never found a c-foam grenate yet
yeah my take was meant in general
ah ok
how to deal with a mom that's awake
I usually HEL Shotty/CS R3D1
I find it a confortable and fun combo
ok nice
I do like the mission so far and I noticed that the wave stops after we put the neonate in
but the alarm continues
The error stops when you insert the neonate but it will spawn a mom when doing so
hello everyone i have come to make an announcement: hel rifle sucks dick and everyone who uses it is a brainless dumbass
thank you for your time
Without further interruption let's celebrate and equip hel rifle
Hel refile Players explaining how ther 2 Kills per Shot were Holding Off the entire wave
hel rifle has a certain skill ceiling that ur not tall enough to reach
If my pubs killed two strikers per shot, it'd be a marked improvement.
Me seeing them fire it and get no pens.
worse if they shoot their entire mag... and nothing dies
Shoot entire mag / miss / hit teammates
Did ten chambers release a stealth update?
The answer is no
for some reason i thought they were adding like
randomized levels or some shit like that lol
There's a mod for that
Just an ad
A damn good ad tbh, that I wish theyβd used for most of the game
But just an ad
WAIT AINβT NO WAY
when theyβre showing off the β90+ unlockable rewardsβ
They happen to select the only reward that nobody who ever played the game can access in vanilla
Azul Tinto
thatβs so goofy
85% infection you're glistening
newman oiled up his rundown
i oiled up a chunk of occy
?
iirc the BBT dimension is wet as fuck
and a couple individual levels
vanilla doesnβt go super hard on wetness
Which is sad
R8D2 coulda been moist
wtf are you talking about moist gtfo levels
i cannot tell if you donβt know
We love the wetness variable.
wait could you randomize wetness with GTFR
We hate
So when @midnight basin is in a bbc level?
The wet option
Gtfr is getting a new setting fuck you guys
Max wet levels every time
wait but seriously did you not notice the wetness ever Jish?
I mean like
24/7
it took scaler a total of -1 seconds
When ammopacks are soaking wet
I donβt see a flyer and say ah I wish it was wetter
none of you are seeing the light of heaven
Dad already told me that
I think they were just blinded by the light
What is your sleeping snatcher level
oil up
honestly I think you missed out on D4/E1
About to go to a dows event in full big flyier cosplay
Those two are probably my best
D3 is a crapshoot with spawns half the time because of how splitting up works
And E2 is more story focused
Honestly might be fun to go to I think GTFR is starting to reach its limits
But E1 and D4
Until we get new geo randomizer
Chef kiss, love those two levels
Yeah I canβt recommend them enough
Theyβre not even broken
Which is surprising
if GTFO goes mono, modding might be able to push further
And they donβt have flashy lights!
better mods, better mods ideas etc
I still want gtfo prop hunt
Yeah
actually smth people can play thats funny
il2cpp kinda killed the modding scene on what it can achieve but it was kinda of necessary due to you know....... how we behaved back then
yeah
all young an anarchist
But now like
It was never necessary
I mean dropping r8 mono would be sick
We would be able to make trap scans
yeah now that the game its completly done we could get monoi
And other shit so easily
heres my dream
I want to color my trap scans
Please 10cc i beg you
BD youd have to be at gamescom an ask
They couldnt resist your puppy eyes
last patch is
RX levels
mono build
trues vanilla rebalance its added
I'll get on stage tomorrow and ask!
Our hero
they woulda send me to jail the second they seen me
thatβs the final heist of DoW
Beware the sudden red dot on your head
QUAD!! GET DOWN
stealing R8 mono
I'll be the martyr the community needs
do it
If i fail... Darkeva face reveal will be leaked π
WHA 
(Technically its already in 10C videos)
lol
he saying hes sexy
i wanna see that
The price we pay for mono
It took people 20 sec to spot it in a video last year
It showed up at 1:30β¦
Like how
eva would you face reveal for mono?
its not like i rly care
I prefer staying faceless but 
but think of the CONTENT
the new levels
the crazy bullshit
Five Nights at Floodways
yeah that too
Also it was hilarious having the photo booth be too low for my face
tall ass mf
tall = sexy
damn
I will save the photo printout thing for the history books
One picture is literally just my face and Eva's neck
I'll post just that one 
Bmmmm
Excluding Krakens and I think super big mom, there's never an objective that requires us explicitly to kill something, right?
correct
I dont know why but I had this weird feeling that a map asked us to kill a tank
Seems like I just imagined it
You quite litteraly dont have to kill mega mom 
you are only required to kill the krakens
objective as in lore objective of "mission is to kill" or required
Literally softlocked unless you kill so like "no kill kraken no teleport back"
you would know this if you watched my R8D2 Any% in 19:41 at https://www.youtube.com/@FrostyBoiis or whatever it is
you can post the link you know
coward
half the speedruns at https://youtube.com/@androgynygoat are unlisted so you will not see the r8d2, but it exists
Damn can i get my views too @ youtube dot com blackdragon8951
i post corn videos on the weekly!
im subbing
i guess u could say they are
corny
Once im home i might have my new mic and there might actualy be a voice over again in my videos
I have a neat idea for r8d2 speed
we will hear eva in his streams in 8k
WHAT
8k is a resolution but idc
?
what is it
whats up
oh just a edit idea
Ill need to get some footage tho
Like we did on r6c1 for kenny
Ive been using my headset mic for many years
coward
My old one was fine
New one has me getting flamed by 8+ people now who met me irl
i had a dude literally offer his services to tell me that my mic was shit
your mic its fine
your videos are cute
thats all that matters
Cornvideos
you should see how they hold the high cal
that hand is cursed
Not the activate windows man...
LMAO
Ah yes
A classic
i propose big revolver
Any primaries aside from HEL revvie, carbine, 556 rifle and LX assault rifle that are good?
Specifically a rifle
looking at this, forgot how it plays
No AR is good
Uuuh
Assault rifle isnt good 
hel revo, hel shotty, autopp, sawed off, carbine, hsmg(kinda), dmr/dtr
also how do these compare
And Main Rifle is ehhhh
DMR is good
DTR is βgoodβ (harder to get great value consistently)
DTR requires you to aim as such that you "one-burst" strikers or shit like that
Not good
DMR is easier to use just aim at head to 1-tap shooters
Ah sorry for the confusion, I just wanted to get some good gun advice that simply didn't include the ones I've mentioned
since i got used to them
honestly
most of the main weapons are like
at least half ok
there are some that arent great but they can do some things
stay away from burst pistol assault rifle and you'll probably be fine
I'd say the easiest brainless Main is Carbine, which prop mentioned
^
i think that title goes to hel shotty
yup
but carbine is a close second
No
Heard they one-burst strikers, just checked
not really?
1 - head, 2 - what's left of it and they don't really die
hel shotty is way more challenging to use correctly than carbine
Nah HEL Shotty requires positioning and half a brain
for dtr? one headshot+one bodyshot kills
Carbine is "use gun on enemy" level of dumb
but its quite difficult to consistently do that
just had a few cases where that didn't happen which is weird
hold down the funny button till everything dies
Hm?
Dmr leaves strikers at ~0.5 hp
So anything kills after first shot
DTR kills in 1 burst. But you need to hit head and body with 1 shot each
may have been a neckshot not a headshot
Or just a miss
or that
Sorry eva but the only way a shooter dies is all client scattergun pellets into occiput
sniper to occi
I can do that but man is it uncomfy, always having to manage
but ye @deep flame
Theres videos about this if you are interested enough
@kind swan i also accept sniper (only reason i dont mald when i have it due to randomizer)
dmr/hel revo can one shot if you have a main damage booster, but some people dont like doing that
Manage what?
@deep flame If you're looking on alternatives to play, Main weapon wise, it really also depends on what the rest of the team has, because some shit like HEL Autopistol is situational but definitively usable
i do that and the revolver is a blast like that
You could try sawed off, maybe you like that
sawed off my beloved β€οΈ
does it have videogame shotgun range?
I'll leave that to our shotgunner lmao
Sniper to occi is 800~ dmg iirc.
10m?
Shooter occi*
consistent 2-shot hits
as I said, possible but not fun
Yes
10 meters and under are still casual safe kills
i always have trouble killing at more than like 6-7m
oh yea for DTR
its a challenge to learn
probably because i cant hit headshots
Aim for a different spot
dont aim AT head
aim for ~neck
You just need to hit as many pellets as possible
Funny thing how I have the same problem but upside down
i usually just shoot twice and call it a day
It overkills anyhow
Tbf if you aren't feeling it. Just use other guns. Otherwise use boosters if you don't like the breakpoints
Boosters for breakpoints is just ugh tho
"breakpoints"?
to kill
i had a friend who would run special revo and bring 3 special damage boosters so it had the same damage as high cal
that was fun
Uuuh that wont work
or similar damage, at least
Some ppl will still gripe on and on about how it leaves an enemy at 0.3 hp regardless
Try HEL Autopistol, remember your role is to maximize how much enemies stay staggered and for how long, not to kill (dont go full-auto unless it's a chokepoint). Also hope the other 3 teammates make good use of said staggering.
i dont remember the exact numbers but he did quite often run custom boosters so who knows if what he was using was vanilla
remember when someone said high cal is just a better revo
25 with good boosters for sure
Or smth
would you rather have a pub use revo or high cal
You need like over 100% to do as much as Highcal- which isn't possible unless you take custom boosters iirc
atp they're too different from each other
Sinec I liked the revolver a lot, I guess I'll go down the DMR route
Feasible to get decent performance out of it, right? With a damage boost that is
it also looks pretty cool, one of the sexiest designs imo
(it's high cal, high cal is the better gun)
Without
even without damage boost its good
the booster makes it laughably busted
as in overpowered?
Yes
if you have a turret/teammates that follow up biters are easy too
boosters are just badly designed ngl
mhm yes I love one shotting every small enemy
torso?
Any muted main dmg booster allows DMR to one tap strikers
speedy reload
ah, I didn't get what you meant by "base:
mhm
tbh high cal feels very similar to hel rifle to me
Gee I canβt imagine why
hmm
only if you use it wrong
lmao
you trade one more shot in the clip, faster firing speed, faster reload, and no chargeup
for DRAMATICALLY reduced range and no pierce
i kinda liked high cal, what's the right way to use it if it's worth it
i think its an ok tradeoff
like hel rifle is still better obvi
but they feel comfortably balanced
it can one shot any small including chargers
me seeing the 400th carbine hel rifle user shoot hel rifle like its high cal
and is also decent at killing giants
Shoot body (unless scout or hybrid, then head)
...and so they feel very similar to you?
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shoot small enemies when they're in your face
or shoot enemies in the head from range
or shoot giant when it's about to attack you to stagger it out of the attack
same as any old gun
Dmg is similar but range/mag/pen difference. Highcal can probably shoot a bit faster but negligible imo.
they do the same damage and are both single shot semi auto weapons, it kinda just feels like they fill adjacent niches
i like the precision rifle being full auto
Never shoot head unless scout or you NEED a quick stagger. That's it
PR will probably be my favorite mid/niche gun
bring it on charger levels
unfortunately you might as well take other guns, like hel gun or rifle
shhhhh
maybe even shotgun, always a fun one
i like my hand cannon
Chargers beyond 8m not getting one tapped moment
It's just that chargers tend to line up too easily and are too big of a target not to get penned
hence why it feels more like a shotgun than a handgun to me, especially against chargers
you one shot but if they're even a tiny bit too far away you dont
sad hours
Thus I'd just pick HEL Rifle
buff high cal
The better "Slug shotgun"
hmm how do these compare to each other
"thus i'd just pick hel rifle" applies to 90% of the levels in the game
Why? It's a low ceiling gun
i was kidding
hel revo better
hel revo is lowkey busted
dmr one shots shooters to head and thatβs the only upside to dmr really
dmr
pretty sure thats dmr
hel revo I'd intuitively say it's easier to get value out also because of pen
Everything else is a downside
dtr is a tad uglier
Dmr is ugly as hell too
Range and mag size
But yea
do agree tho
hel revo is supposed to be balanced by a slow reload (i think) but you can just cancel like 60% of the reload
same for dmr
you could cancel even more
at least it's not pr
idk i dont run hel revo
yea
Back during... Alt R4? it was even more cancellable, then they nerfed it
why is it down there
Imo. It's more. Why did they choose the m249 top frame for it.
We are so back
pretty sure you could market it as a pistol brace, looks about as useful
Can we nerf sniper
π΄
sniper rlly just needs 1 in the mag
it looks like it had a pistol handly on the bottom of the gun itself
Fr
and then someone like
have fun guys
taped a giant stock onto the bottom of it
die
how viable would a 1 shot sniper with a faster reload be?
and welcome to dev team
The stock looks better on pistols but it breaks hand positions sadly
Depends how much faster honestly
Weapon discussion spottet
itβd have to be pretty quick to be viable
Ass
ass
ass

how about 6 shots in the clip with a 20 second reload
no
If they held their pistols like a real person would they wouldn't have that funny stuff happening
Autocannon
Might as well make it mountable
Honestly
Better than rn 
How about, sniper has a 50% chance to reload 1 shot, and 50% chance to reload 0. Now it's properly balanced
every time you reload sniper you cast wand of wonder
Youβd be able to do a lot with 6 bullets but god the 20 seconds of downtime
Itβd be actually perfect for kraken
i was like 80% kidding
Recently checked that out
Good stuff
The sniper one is me complaining about the generic sci-fi mask lights
all 13 shots in the clip but with a 2 minute reload
Is that extra small
or is it some sort of size I don't get
I know
Saw the size immediatky
Still sick
Just what i caught
Ye extra small
Become Twink
me
Yes! I will do it
Big- scout!
For those not in DoW server
how nice of the person to conceal eva's identity
Shame we'll never hear from him again
Eva is Mr bowmen
Damn Eva's REALLY tall
Yeqh
Or is everyone there REALLY short
Doubt it based on the bag and the shoes
Yeah that's fair
I just like to propose alternate theories to dilute the narrative, yk?
194
Waiting for the Eva DoW guide
What's stupidly short by modern standards?
Nevermind I dont want to know.
Slendos prolly like 4'6
WHAT
Slendi is like maybe 2-3ft
HUHHH?
You're a chair aren't you?
Slendi is taco
Dwarf
qwq
taco maraca chimichanga
Where are the Pastor Tacos homes?
what would be in between
Femboy
1.7 or something
i don't think that's true ur surely like dragon height
ah yes im 15'20 tall and 45 wide and weight half a ton
i spit fire
on my cd album

The black dragon name isnt for show ya know
Why tf is there a charger feeler in r3d1 man
:3
Why is it not melee killable : (
:3c
plot twist
I know we died at the 2nd one


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