gtfo-spoiler-chat

[cosmic quail]

i would bring scatter

personally

[half hornet]

Probably shit against tank though, right?

[cosmic quail]

hel gun is fine on tanks

[last gust]

it's not bad into tank

not your goto tank killer

[cosmic quail]

just have a dedicated tank killer anyways

[inland island]

I used my hel autopistol and tank so dw

[cosmic quail]

im assuming youre not running solo

[last gust]

but you're not sad about chipping in on tanks with hel gun

[cosmic quail]

yea

but i would bring scatter for tanks and the extract snatchers

[last gust]

hel gun should be pretty legit into squiggles

[inland island]

Do what a real warrior would do

Melee the tank

[cosmic quail]

hel gun is just

good

.2 sec charge up

16 dmg

[inland island]

Society if there were hel machineguns

[cosmic quail]

9 rounds

what more could you need

hel gun hipfire spam is so real

[cosmic quail]

wait artek

are you gonna run it with a full team or?

dam

[half hornet]

No, i'm not doing it with bots.

Nightmares to them are same as chargers: utter fuckery.

Although... Maybe 3 sentires could work... Maybe...

[cosmic quail]

no

it wont

:P

[half hornet]

Not sure though. I imagine the finale scan will fuck them real good.

[cosmic quail]

theres

a

artek do you mind spoilers

[half hornet]

Mate.

[cosmic quail]

ok fair

nvmd

[half hornet]

I've died in the extraction scan.

I've seen it all.

[cosmic quail]

:P

how are you gonna double scan with bots

take twice as long?

[half hornet]

Riiiiiiiiiiiiight

Maybe.

[cosmic quail]

:P

that

no

artek no

[half hornet]

BOOSTER TIME WEEEEEEEE

(i don't have bioscan speed boosters)

[cosmic quail]

💀

arteks sanity is about to be cremated

[half hornet]

No, but seriously, i will not attempt it with bots. They just... Too many issues.

[cosmic quail]

at least they dont get snatched

:P

[half hornet]

There's like... 4 things at least i can think of that they suck at.

[half hornet]

Alright, 5 reasons.

(becaues it means the fucker just bullets straight for me and bots do nothing to stop him)

[cosmic quail]

bring scatter

you dont have to worry about snatcher gunning for someone else

and you can delete them

[inland island]

Boom boom boom

[restive summit]

it has to be 10 no||, for the timer to finish on checkpoint door?||

[half hornet]

Makes sense actually...

[restive summit]

well 10+ but ygm

[half hornet]

Then again i swear you can't actually make it to the end on time

But i wouldn't know, i don't sprint

[restive summit]

Nah we were waiting

had to hunker down on a corner with no ammo and my bat

[half hornet]

Huh

I was hoping there's some sort of hidden ending if you make it on time

[prisma zodiac]

current is 16:25
Honestly unless theres a weird way to activate the datacubes early its not gonna go below 16:20

[glossy pebble]

has the code changed?

[glossy crescent]

not yet

why do you ask

[rancid widget]

hey, im playing thru r8 and i just completed a level, and i was looking thru wiki and apparently there's a r8d2? why can't I see it?

in fact 1 extra level for every tier?

oh. hidden levels

[half hornet]

Yeah.
Unlocked once you finish the first half (A1, B1, B2, C1, D1 and E1. Allegedly B2 only unlocks if you finish secondary of B1)

[rancid widget]

oh strange

[pseudo lily]

try reinstalling

[winter wharf]

reinstalling what, and for which reason?

because if it's for the r8 levels, they aren't all immediately visible and reinstalling is a complete and total waste of time

[warm burrow]

Found a R1C1 meta in random lobbies, cfoam to stop enemies!

[half hornet]

If only cfoam dealt damage

[warm burrow]

Also where do you people personally kill enemies at? I like the little hallway before bridge room

[winter wharf]

Unfortunately you still have to kill them all, and sentries have a mix between staggering and killing

[warm burrow]

trust 3 foam + bio

why kill when you can just cap enemies and keep them still

[winter wharf]

because I don't trust you to kite enemy cap and live

you can only foam them for so long

[warm burrow]

😔

[candid dragon]

i like to stand on the dump truck, also the fact that 3 snipers and a bio makes it such a solved floor for regular play.

[warm burrow]

Then just kill smalls and leave bigs alive for easier time

This process truly wont be harder than going normally

[winter wharf]

Giant capping my beloved

Kite smarter not harder

[deft kiln]

The amount of effort it takes to giant kite r1c1 isn’t worth it

[warm burrow]

this is just an issue of skill 😢

kite hybrids then :)

[deft kiln]

What wave should I get the giants from

[warm burrow]

They start to spawn from wave 2

[astral ferry]

average r4 player

[tough atlas]

I still think Spaghetti's math is wrong?

waves 2-4-6-8 have hibrids and giants but it's like 3/3 I think

I know a giant counts more than a normal striker

but AFAIK all reactors just queue and keep the queue going

So if you've 20 in queue, 20 spawned, and ticks to another 20 the queue will just be larger

[warm burrow]

This is why you dont put codes in 😔

when you have cap giants you start putting them in

[tough atlas]

And this is easier than literally a point and click adventure with "use gun on head"?

[warm burrow]

:)

[tough atlas]

I've no idea if that was supposed to be sarcasm or not

hence my #gtfo-spoiler-chat message

[warm burrow]

This was indeed sarcasm

[tough atlas]

Ah my bad then

[warm burrow]

It will indeed be way faster + easier to just do normal

But technically there are like 5 or so giants on wave 8 so yo u could just farm that for cap 🥺

How long can you kite giants before you pc explodes challenge

[deft kiln]

Idk

It might be faster if you keep the giants from stealth at the beginning alive

That way you don’t have to do as many waves

[warm burrow]

This is true, the 1 - 2 giants will have a big difference in the economic situation of farming

[deft kiln]

What can I say I optimize

[inland island]

The story ends at the end..

[warm burrow]

aint that kinda the meaning of end

[alpine spindle]

🤯

[inland island]

Idk I just spoiled the ending

[deft kiln]

@sturdy stone You are doing kracken before reactor?

[sturdy stone]

😂 well yea

[deft kiln]

Okay let me check never done it that way might just be broken

[hard veldt]

hey i tried the password for A2 but it says invalid password

anyone got the current one?

[deft kiln]

@glossy crescent

[hard veldt]

yeah no i tried that but it didnt work

ohhh

thanks

[warm burrow]

Now if you want to optimize even more you could just do the waves normally until you have enough giants instead of farming 1 wave

[deft kiln]

what order

like you kill kracken

then do reactor?

[sturdy stone]

yea and the door isn't open

[deft kiln]

yeah

seems like that routing might just be broken

[sturdy stone]

we are going through the map to make sure we didn't lose anything

[deft kiln]

let me check

one last time

[deft kiln]

did

you have reactor

with kracken at the same time

kracken then reactor

cause i just did it in console

and it work for me if i killed kracken firt

then started reactor

both didnt work but i think it still will if i do it right

[deft kiln]

you are just doing it wrong

door opens both ways

[prisma zodiac]

you cant do a main only clear basically

unless :^ )

[deft kiln]

what is the best kracken kill gun

pr?

this acutally matters for the e2 rotuing

i hate this

[winter wharf]

I'd have to guess it's between PR and sniper

[half hornet]

As it currently stands - unironically yes

[winter wharf]

maybe hel rifle isn't awful either?

[half hornet]

33 dmg from PR per shot for 330 mag total (unaccounted for lost overdamage)

[sturdy stone]

so we figured the issue :x

[half hornet]

and 80 dmg from sniper for total of 160 per shot and 320 per mag

I... Think PR unironically wins right now

[deft kiln]

you need to be able to kill kracken from the worst spot

by yourself

[half hornet]

Even reloads +0.2s quicker

[deft kiln]

or at least pop tumor so you can make it back for reactor team scan

[half hornet]

The only thing that can screw you here is damage fall off

[glossy crescent]

WHY DO YOU SAY IT

NOOOOOO

[winter otter]

I delete just for you

[woeful shadow]

Is that on purpose? if so why?

[half hornet]

Chaos and tomfoolery.

[woeful shadow]

seems kinda rude >.>

[half hornet]

Welcome to GTFO players, we got a couple of chaos internet demons around here

[winter otter]

They're providing the code for a meme level every week. Don't think switching the 1 for I is that big of a deal.

[glossy crescent]

nah

i just changed the 0 to O because im not a bad person

also i dont like chaos

[woeful shadow]

[woeful shadow]

I mean having your username be the password except for one character that kinda looks like the correct character is pretty chaotic imo

if it were entirely wrong that'd be one thing, but it being 99% correct on purpose is a whole other level of troll

[prisma zodiac]

definetly didnt give them a push for it or smth

[prisma zodiac]

kraken only its sniper

If you want any utility in the actual fight PR (marginally worse than sniper vs kraken)

Choke mod is great IN range
Hel rifle is ok

[deft kiln]

it has to be sniper

you lose a lot of time

you are a lot farther away

[deft kiln]

you finsih e2 right

[prisma zodiac]

yes

but imagine taking sniper

[deft kiln]

you know the open tile where you first enter the kraken fight you need to fight the kraken from there

for the route to work

[prisma zodiac]

are you talking about smth like solo/duo or speedruns or some weird stuff?

[deft kiln]

4 speeds

[prisma zodiac]

Why are you concerned about killing speed on kraken

isnt reactor too long for that? Even when rushed?

[deft kiln]

trying to kill krakcen during reactor

without lossing time on team sacns

[prisma zodiac]

how many team scans are there again?

[deft kiln]

3

[prisma zodiac]

1 on reac start obviously

[deft kiln]

one for each code

[prisma zodiac]

so 4

[deft kiln]

yeah but you dont do anything funny

for first code

[glossy crescent]

[deft kiln]

you dont have time

[prisma zodiac]

is there a flyer spawn cap happening?

[deft kiln]

it does look that way

you might be tank capping

also maybe

we can depsawn kracken and soft lock

idk

[prisma zodiac]

honestly idk

wouldve been funnier if secondary just didnt have teamscans

They serve no purpose

[deft kiln]

yeah

if only they got crazy ffedback

on my disatifaction

of team scans

[prisma zodiac]

:>

[half hornet]

So wait.
Is R8E2 same situation as R8B2 or what?
Pick your poison?

[solemn wigeon]

No

E2 at least to the best of my knowledge requires completion of both secondary and the main zones to finish the level

[half hornet]

So Main is a red-herring?

[solemn wigeon]

Main is necessary

[half hornet]

But then why people don't get credited?

Lore stuff?

[solemn wigeon]

In the image in media?

[half hornet]

Yeah

[solemn wigeon]

Idk, the door down there iirc is non interactable

[half hornet]

So, lore stuff.

[solemn wigeon]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[balmy shoal]

Hey, just real quick

The fellas in the secondary objective of... the fourt level. Those guys are meant to be invisible, yeah?

Like completely non-visible? I coulda sworn the wraith guys could be seen at least a littl

e

[warm burrow]

Shadows?

[balmy shoal]

Yeah! Shadows. I could have sworn those guys were at least a little bit visible

[warm burrow]

You can see an outline or a 'shadow' of them

[balmy shoal]

...I'm not getting any of that with these

[warm burrow]

^^ while shining light

[glossy pebble]

it doesn't work for me I don't know why

[balmy shoal]

Okay apparently I never flashed a light at them

[warm burrow]

the second letter is zero

[balmy shoal]

Man I hate these things

[warm burrow]

Yeah they will be invinsible the way to see them is flashing light

or thermal works too

[balmy shoal]

Boooo. Anywho. Thank you for confirming my worst fears, o valued spaghetti master

[glossy pebble]

yo, thanks that works

[balmy shoal]

Unfortunately I brought bots, and take sniper rifles for myself.

[warm burrow]

that's unfortunate

[balmy shoal]

Truly. What one does for the Warden, I guess

Class M level VII alarm

..Alright. The bots can't handle shadows

They just sit around and melee

[vapid moon]

is the log in R2B2 zone 269 supposed to go on forever?

the 000-000-000

[vocal geode]

yeah it basically goes on forever

[vapid moon]

its the same name over and over again and ive been sitting here for a good few minutes lol

[vapid moon]

so am i okay to just exit it for the achievement

[vocal geode]

yes

as soon as you check the log it gives you the progress

[vapid moon]

cool ty

[digital dawn]

It's ~30000 lines long, so feel free to "read" the whole thing ^^

[vocal geode]

I did notice that a lot of names are repeated super often with a little variation

including the names of the 4 prisoners we play as

probably (a part of) a database of the warden for individuals in different dimensions/universes

[last gust]

varies with area lighting

in darker areas you can typically get decent vision on them when you shine light on them

in very well lit areas it's often hard to make them out even with your light

usually you're not going to have much luck making them out without shining your light on them regardless of area lighting

they're actually really well done imo, invisibility effects in most games are notorious for being bad and not actually rendering the enemy difficult to spot

imo the only miss is that glowsticks are useless on them

[ocean oar]

finally cleraed the most cancerous level in the game

[prisma zodiac]

[balmy robin]

I am guessing... B4 ?

[pseudo lily]

my bet’s on A1

[livid heath]

E1

ive seen them lfging for R2E1

for the last few days

[last gust]

I was going to say I saw an r5b2 clear screen somewhere

[ocean oar]

yup

that thing is the most random ass level in this game

I remember attempting it day 2 after R8 launched and got infinite hybrid error alarm

[prisma zodiac]

? This doesnt happen

[ocean oar]

it did for me

[prisma zodiac]

there no hybrids spawning during the error

they only spawn during the 2nd surge

[ocean oar]

there was before they patch it

they started spawning for us during T scan

cept they never stopped

[prisma zodiac]

theres no T scan in r2e1 o.O?

[ocean oar]

no, R8B4

[vocal geode]

doofus

[prisma zodiac]

ah mb i saw the others talking about e1

[daring pilot]

i wish

Tscan surge should replace like 3 of the other surges

Would be cool

Tbh I’d love a tscan in the pipe room

[last gust]

main scan I don't like in r2e1 is the one in the setpiece room

feels so strange to fight your way through 3 surges, then get into this iconic room, only to do a vanilla class 4 scan that you might find in a B level

[rare scarab]

I introduced a friend to GTFO and we went into Rundown 2 blind for his first rundown and hearing the horrors of R2E1 I am not sure if I regret it or not lol. Definitely gonna have to find some people to replace our bots for that (and R2C2)

We're already 5+ attempts for R2D1 we'll definitely get it next time

[winter wharf]

It's not that bad :)

[ocean oar]

wait till you play R8B4

[winter wharf]

you have growth to achieve :)

[rare scarab]

Anyone who uses :) is lying

[glossy crescent]

:)

[rare scarab]

[glossy crescent]

its easy

[warm burrow]

idk on difficulty scale r2e1 > r8b4

[rare scarab]

I want my friends to play R8 with me because I recently got really into the lore and I don't wanna get spoiled on the ending but ree I might just get over anxiety and start LFGing lol

[last gust]

the jump from c2/d1 to d2 is pretty steep imo

[winter wharf]

r8b4 is way far in the future, don't worry about it

[last gust]

then from d2 to e1 is also pretty steep

[ocean oar]

r2e1 is ezpz compared to R8B4

[rare scarab]

Oh boy

We're in for a great surprise I see

[ocean oar]

r2e1 will be hard if you aren't using the optimal strat

[last gust]

on the other hand d2 is the best level in r2

so you'll be hardstuck on a banger

[winter wharf]

if you suggest cheesing with cfoam as the "optimal" strat I'm going to throw you out the elevator

[ocean oar]

r2d2 is just a glorified shooting gallery

[rare scarab]

I will probably just go to my default coping mechanism of "watch scaler guide" after wiping 3-4 times

[ocean oar]

I mean if you wanna make it intentionally difficult, might as well go 4x pistol while you're at it

4x pistol 4x HAR/Short rifle

also if CFOAM is cheesing then I don't know what to say to you

[silent kettle]

yeah pachi

go back to your doorbug solo

leave the new kids alone

[ocean oar]

wth is doorbug anyway

been patched since R7

[silent kettle]

you get enemies stuck on a doof

and nothing spawns

[winter wharf]

door bug has always been possible, and I haven't touched a door bug solo in ages

I can do one just for you rick

[silent kettle]

thats so kind of u

but perhaps u should outshoot og r4b3

[winter wharf]

I can try to for a little while

[west crow]

When are you going to play r8

[winter wharf]

never

[west crow]

Wtf

RRRRRRR 44444 4EEEEEE WAAAN

Stuck in rundown 4

Someone help him

[winter wharf]

I think you need a new thing about me to hyperfixate on other than i've played r4e1 a bunch

[vocal geode]

R4E1 secondary slaps

[silent kettle]

play r5 with bc mod

[winter wharf]

installing mods is too hard, i play normal r5 instead

and accidentally disable hitmarkers for an hour and get confused

[west crow]

r8 solo is going to be crazy

just doorbug the timer spawns

[silent kettle]

eks dee

[prisma zodiac]

pistol isnt bad tho

[vocal geode]

pistol is alright

[warm burrow]

Pistol has like the best ammo to kill ratio

[vocal geode]

not Hel Revo?

[last gust]

ignoring pen, yeah

[warm burrow]

now I would like to point out that most of my info is like 6-12 months old :)

[prisma zodiac]

it doesnt

theres multiple guns with better economy

not even factoring pen

[vocal geode]

Hel Revo even without pen would still be great

[last gust]

I was concurring with "not hel revo?", not the "pistol get best econ" take

hel revo gets 9 per refill, I think pistol gets 10

that said, for most of the mains that beat pistol on paper, either the gun is bad or the econ is unrealistic imo

[vocal geode]

what about Hel PP?

[west crow]

LOL

[vocal geode]

oh sorry

"Hel Autopistol 🤓☝️"

[warm burrow]

When you think about it the sawed off can kill many enemies in 1 shot and also kill a giant quickly, truly meta atm

[vocal geode]

Sawed Off is pretty good yeah

it does the same damage as a lot of specials

[last gust]

I have no idea what kind of econ I'd expect to get out of it tbh

[vocal geode]

I mean yeah too many factors to consider

[last gust]

don't even know the silly on-paper numbers since last buff

anyway getting "pistol is worst main, lol pistol + SR meme loadout" takes after they brought back OG r5 pistol is weird

[warm burrow]

truly good at killing flyers since they have (4?) hp and it does 1.5, also 520 max ammo to keep you going

so 3 hit kills

[west crow]

your ass

better not be autopistoling the flyer

[warm burrow]

😔

better than punching them

[vocal geode]

already did when I did R8B4 a few hours ago

and I thought it was okay at dealing with them

[warm burrow]

beep is just mad that he hasnt figured out this meta yet

[vocal geode]

I used to hate Hel PP

but now that I've given it a chance it's grown on me

[warm burrow]

ngl

I used it once in og r6, never touched it again

[vocal geode]

it does feel like it far outshines the normal machine pistol though

because of stagger and pen

and it does like what, 0.4 damage less?

[warm burrow]

0.48

[vocal geode]

it feels like you get way more out of it though

and you can still stagger enemies from super far away

and I never quite realized until recently how much easier that makes it for your teammates to shoot them

when they're not constantly moving around

[warm burrow]

yeah that's what I used to do in reactor levels at least

[vocal geode]

it feels great as a support weapon

but not to the point where you feel like you have to rely on your team to kill stuff

[west crow]

it absolutely is at that point

if you're using it to kill, you're using it wrong and if you're using it properly, you're most likely causing crowding which sucks

[warm burrow]

how about 5 auto pp for the fast kill times and good ammo

4*

[west crow]

nothing will die

[warm burrow]

well have you tried killing them

[half hornet]

HELPP is fine these days

Its basically SMG pre-buff, with some penetration thrown on tp

[ocean oar]

HELAP makes R2 and R4E1 surge super easy

[wanton stump]

for sure

[ocean oar]

Also much prefer HELAP than HEL Auto Sentry

HEL Auto sentry just dumps tool too much, hope they reduce the firing rate of em

[narrow gulch]

the shotgun that hels

[half hornet]

Or buff ammo by another 100. Still think its the only thing its missing.

[frigid jacinth]

was the glowsticks being green and yellow in different timelines debunked or what

i vaguely remember this thing

[pliant pasture]

like a gun shottying out of hel

[hexed vapor]

The fact that HELAP actually kills stuff now is kind of massive.

And the buff was by quite a large amount

[lyric schooner]

Question semi-related to the A2 password. ||How was this terminal even found?|| ||Does it tell you in B2 to find it here?||

[deft kiln]

no data mining

[half hornet]

If you do generic LIST ZONE without additional specifications - it will tell you that there are 2 terminals in the zone. And then you can ping the other one.
Usually this is nothing to write home about, and personally i probably would just ignore it, but apparently someone didn't and went like "Hmmmm, there is a 2nd terminal i wonder where it is..."

There rest is just a lot of pinging.

[golden kettle]

did they change the password in a2?

[half hornet]

They change it every week or so

Where is he... What was his name...

@glossy crescent

||But the O is a 0 because he's a criminal||

[pliant pasture]

god thats fuckin good

[cosmic quail]

Pable trolling

[late nebula]

😱

[cosmic quail]

Bewildered

[late nebula]

Trying to find pubs to join but the levels they're doing are meh

😔

[glossy crescent]

R1D1 moment

or R1C1

[livid heath]

R8E1?

celebrating new years with alot of boomin levels

[late nebula]

Literally someone just posted for this lol

[cosmic quail]

Lmao

[late nebula]

It may be the easiest E level but I'm still not gonna do that again lol

[livid heath]

R6C3?

[glossy crescent]

R6C3 is much better

[cosmic quail]

Eh it's not that bad

[glossy crescent]

and more fun

[warm burrow]

Seems like a lot of newbies are having trouble with r1 c1, it is the first reactor after all

[late nebula]

Omg I haven't done r6c3 in a long time

[cosmic quail]

Yuki host r6c3

[late nebula]

No 💀 I have bad internet

[livid heath]

fuck you mean yuki host

its gon be me lil bro

[cosmic quail]

I've only seen Yuki host once

[glossy crescent]

😆

[cosmic quail]

And bro complained about res stacking

But doesn't run res stacking

[livid heath]

true

[late nebula]

That was literally you but ok

[livid heath]

its 4am fr fr lets get it

[cosmic quail]

You said you didn't like to join lobbies cause they didn't have res stacking

[livid heath]

shush

lets play now

[late nebula]

That was a joke 😭

[cosmic quail]

I'm eating

[warm burrow]

you uh, have space for 1 more 🥺

[late nebula]

IFO be complaining not being able to stack medis

[livid heath]

depends

[cosmic quail]

Shoot yourself

[glossy crescent]

WOW

IFO

WHAT

[cosmic quail]

<3

[late nebula]

Don't have to shoot myself when you already do it for me

[cosmic quail]

So real

[glossy crescent]

thats it we are throwing him into R8E2 alone

[livid heath]

YOU SHOULD SCATTER GUN YOURSELF NOW

[late nebula]

People also tend to get stuck on R2D1 and below

Instead of moving to the next rundown

[lyric schooner]

do you get anything from clearing A2 secondary?

[livid heath]

its all bout that grind yuki

[livid heath]

no

[cosmic quail]

A secondary and main clear

[inland island]

eternak punishment

[cosmic quail]

Yes

[late nebula]

You get a gold medal for participating in Doctor Hammerstein's Creature Behavior Study

[lyric schooner]

https://tenor.com/view/merci-beaucoup-merci-cimer-gif-11983345

[warm burrow]

oh goodness, earlier today had a run with 3 people with less than 10 hours playtime...

[livid heath]

waiting on R6C3 drop

[warm burrow]

No idea what they are doing in r2d1

[livid heath]

u got 3mins

[cosmic quail]

No I have to play the rundowns in order wahhhh

[late nebula]

Lmao

[livid heath]

before my dead ass fall to bed

[glossy crescent]

dying

duh

[late nebula]

Technically, you're supposed to play r7 and then r6 😏

[cosmic quail]

It say r2 mus be ez cause r2 is second rundown

[lyric schooner]

does doctor hammerstein's creature behavior study have any lore implications or is it just :P

[cosmic quail]

Hmmmm

[livid heath]

waiting

[inland island]

can you do trainings with other ppl

[glossy crescent]

R8B4 lobby

[glossy crescent]

no

[late nebula]

Yeah it's possible there's lore behind it. Idk much about the mission lore-wise. It's impossible to survive it and know the dark secrets 👀

[glossy crescent]

guys

host a R8B4

[deft kiln]

If you mod yes

[inland island]

so there is a mod for playing training multiplayer

[livid heath]

@cosmic quail eat faster

[late nebula]

I already did R8B4 5 times, 4 with secondary. I don't want to do it again 😔

[livid heath]

consume faster

[cosmic quail]

Yuki is in pain

[glossy crescent]

OH WELL

AGAIN

SHALL BE

[livid heath]

like minecraft

[warm burrow]

I had this fun challenge idea of spawning an pmom at elevator and you need to do the whole level with it alive

or just spawn 5 pablos idk

[glossy crescent]

R8E2 but you have a pablo chasing you all the level

[late nebula]

Just play Occlusion smh

[glossy crescent]

haha

no

[astral ferry]

r3d1 don't kill mom challenge

[high quarry]

Has an immortal birther been a concept anywhere? Would be a lot more intense and resource intensive than Pablo.

[warm burrow]

it honestly would be the easiest thing ever to make

[inland island]

Kill the single mother of 378 children

[warm burrow]

and it also would probably mostly be same stuff than pablo, just have 1 person looping it without the mother seeing them to avoid spawns

[cosmic quail]

Just Pablo but unless you know how to get it stuck hf

[half hornet]

Considering how fast mothers are - that might be a problem.
And if they make a mistake and get seen even once - that's basically the babysitter down.
So... Might not actually be a bad concept in theory. Give her spawn a greatly reduced cooldown of like... One minute or something and then she's basically an error alarm in physical form.

[winter wharf]

wouldn't be that difficult to deal with, although mom AI has its moments

unless someone was a terrible person and put tiles with no cover everywhere

[warm burrow]

if you have any decent firerate weapon you should be able to deal with babies

and this is also why you would loop through multiple rooms instead of one room

[glossy crescent]

@daring pilot

do it

[daring pilot]

If I were to make an immortal mother (I wouldn’t), I’d probably use the R6D1 or R8C1 hub tiles

[deft kiln]

Immortal mom isn’t that bad of an enemy idea

Better than tank tbh

[late nebula]

What would immortal mom even spawn

Nightmares? 💀

[deft kiln]

It could spawn anything

Doesn’t matter just needs to be a forced response

Could literally be 20 babies on a 45 second cooldown

[daring pilot]

i still don’t like it as much tbh, unless you could force her to only birth within a certain distance of the players

[glossy crescent]

tanks

:)

[late nebula]

Insane

Pable did you watch my guide video

[daring pilot]

I mean i kind of see how it could be better than pablo

[glossy crescent]

:c

[glossy crescent]

yes

🫃

[late nebula]

Was it helpful? I should make more if it is

[glossy crescent]

🫃

[daring pilot]

Talking from a logistical standpoint

[glossy crescent]

Dak
can you add a auto slugh shotgun with 100 bullets on the mag

:3

[daring pilot]

no

[glossy crescent]

why

[daring pilot]

because no

And also I have never made a custom weapon

[glossy crescent]

well

why you dont try to do it now

[daring pilot]

laziness

[glossy crescent]

[deft kiln]

Game balance is hard

Especially if you have already built content you have to change all the content to custom weapons else the game doesn’t make sense

[daring pilot]

yeah, I’m not gonna go make one random gun

[deft kiln]

Like imagine making a boss fight with r6 sniper in mind then nerfing sniper into the ground and then add 2 more of those boss fights

[glossy crescent]

will you do another rundown after occlusion?

[deft kiln]

Like it would just be poor planning

[glossy crescent]

im curious about that

[deft kiln]

Dak could you make a class 50 alarm level

I really liked the cortex star one

And someone who at least semi understands gtfo level design yours wouldn’t involve us needing to melee 7 charger giants and a mother to clear it

[daring pilot]

what

[deft kiln]

The level started you with 0 0

[prisma zodiac]

fun

[daring pilot]

but why tho

[deft kiln]

But on launch there was no way to beat it without going to the resource zone

[glossy crescent]

hello Keva

[deft kiln]

Which had 7 charger giant mom alarm on it

[prisma zodiac]

[deft kiln]

Hello Eva

[prisma zodiac]

Hey jish

[deft kiln]

Why the hat

[prisma zodiac]

its always been there

usually just hidden

[deft kiln]

No

Do you want to do the stupid r8e2 route today

[prisma zodiac]

wdym

im not even available

[deft kiln]

Oof

[prisma zodiac]

also im cookin rn

[deft kiln]

Reactor and kracken at the same time

[daring pilot]

ain’t no fuckin way

You just

aaaaaa

[deft kiln]

What is wrong Dak

[glossy crescent]

let him cook

[daring pilot]

That was my original idea for RD-D2, back when it was Hellion

[deft kiln]

Don’t worry

[daring pilot]

it was gonna be a staged reactor startup with a kraken fight

[deft kiln]

This route make no sense

[daring pilot]

Oh right it’s possible now

I forgor

I wanted to spawn sleepers during the fight to make it interesting but it wasn’t working pre-R8

Now i have the power

[deft kiln]

Dak we have stupid routing ideas

The entire time

[daring pilot]

Hell, I don’t even have to warp you anymore

[deft kiln]

Yup

[daring pilot]

now the funnier option would be making the fight room also the reactor room

wait hold on I could do that maybe

[deft kiln]

Yeah if you do make sure the reactor has a one room spawn distance the room is massive

And if they spawn farther it would be a pain in the ass

To run back and forth

[daring pilot]

OH I remember now

Nah ok it doesn’t work as well anymore

Initially Hellion was gonna be dimensional ping pong during reactor waves

Think R8B2 but each terminal was a reactor wave

[deft kiln]

You might be able to unity build the kracken fight into the donut tile

[daring pilot]

Doing OVL would turn the 6th wave into a kraken fight

I just didn’t have a way to do that

Because I didn’t know about conditionals at the time

man I’m so excited to make Annihilation

[deft kiln]

Yeah

Nightmare spam?

[daring pilot]

Annihilation?

[deft kiln]

Yeah

[daring pilot]

It’s a rundown

My second rundown

[deft kiln]

Oh

Nightmare spam?

[daring pilot]

Nah

[deft kiln]

thank god

[daring pilot]

There might be a level for that

[deft kiln]

If you use nightmare scout

You should nerf health tbh

[daring pilot]

Occy E2 is going to be full of nightmares tho

[deft kiln]

Cringe but understandable

[daring pilot]

Nah my spear will be able to kill it

[deft kiln]

oh yeah however you do it

Just don’t force 4 spears

So cringe

[prisma zodiac]

Active nightmare scouts are fun

[daring pilot]

It was originally going to be EEC’ed enemies, but R8 pulled up with the dimensional enemies

And I’m very happy about it

[deft kiln]

Shockers with legs

And less attack cooldown

[daring pilot]

Cloaking snatchers >:)

[prisma zodiac]

That dont bug out 24/7

[cosmic quail]

shadow snatcher 🙏

[glossy crescent]

SHADOW SNATCHER

HELL HAN

NAH

[cosmic quail]

HAN

[deft kiln]

Maybe you should make my torcher level

[glossy crescent]

yes
han

[cosmic quail]

:D

[daring pilot]

Torcher or torture?

[deft kiln]

Torture level snatcher surge 40 cell walk

All cells needed

[daring pilot]

mmm nah. Already got a level planned like that

Not that, specifically

But just an evil level

[deft kiln]

No you can’t steal my notes

[daring pilot]

Annihilation will be very much less story based and more level design based

[cosmic quail]

dam you really hate the people who download your mod

so real

[deft kiln]

Very good you gonna make plug-ins as well? Or just data lock stuff

[daring pilot]

No idea, maybe

Depends

On how lazy i am

[deft kiln]

Tbh I am kinda done with this game

Lethal company seems like a better modding experience

For what I want

[vocal geode]

kinda strange to see Lethal Company explode in popularity like it did

'cuz I thought that dev was only gonna be known for It Steals

[daring pilot]

mmmm, yeah I’ll probably stick with GTFO for a while longer

[glossy crescent]

i dont think it will keep the popularity a while longer

sadly

[daring pilot]

Especially because I want to finish Occy’s story and also make some cool levels in Annihilation

[deft kiln]

I am gonna maybe port some gtfo monsters lethal company way then work on my unity modelling

[daring pilot]

It’s kind of funny seeing people say they’re sad to see the game go after completing the vanilla missions

[deft kiln]

Ehh it was fun

[daring pilot]

i mean yeah it was, but modded exists if they want more lol

[deft kiln]

Na I don’t enjoy a lot of modded content

[daring pilot]

Unfortunate

[vocal geode]

you have any recommendations for modded rundowns?

[deft kiln]

it has the same problems that vanilla has but with insane people and less play testing at the helm

[daring pilot]

Absolutely, you want vanilla custom, hardcore vanilla, or full modded?

there’s a lot of different ones

[deft kiln]

You should play daks

[vocal geode]

full modded I guess

I'd like to see new stuff

[daring pilot]

Fatal Experiment 2

Act 1-3

Breach

:3

[deft kiln]

Yes but also

[glossy crescent]

attack on gaggleland is superior

[daring pilot]

True

Based

[daring pilot]

Wait how did you even run that

[vocal geode]

can you play fatal experiment with other people?
like is there an lfg in the modded server?

[deft kiln]

gaggleland is gtfo junk food

[daring pilot]

Yes

?

[glossy crescent]

in my computer?

[deft kiln]

Fun but fatal is more faithful to the game

[glossy crescent]

look man
i dont know what the fuck do you have in D3

but that shit is horrifying

for my laptop

[daring pilot]

Glaggle is good fun a few times

[deft kiln]

GTFO junk food

[daring pilot]

Fatal provides solid levels tho

[daring pilot]

Yeah lol

Oh and Lockout 3

[vocal geode]

holy shit 25 levels and 150+ enemy variants?

[daring pilot]

Do “A3” lol

[daring pilot]

Deep end of GTFO modding was not a joke

Have fun

[glossy crescent]

fatal deez

ima try it

[vocal geode]

that'll be like a completely different game

basically

[alpine spindle]

I’m surprised that you have never played FE2

[vocal geode]

no I've just played vanilla for the most part

[alpine spindle]

Was the first modded rundown I played

[glossy crescent]

"team of 4 recommended"

[vocal geode]

I think I tried the solo trials once

[glossy crescent]

💀

[nocturne flax]

150 same looking enemies that you cant barely tell apart

to then die to the one vanilla enemy

[alpine spindle]

I soloed 4-5

[winter wharf]

I uh, I still haven't touched modded

where is gerz she said we'd play legacy

[daring pilot]

do it

[glossy crescent]

i cant even open legacy

my game crashes

[vocal geode]

why is fasterhackingminigame a requirement for the mod??

I hate that one

[woeful shadow]

how does that one work? like i get its faster but how?

[alpine spindle]

No cooldown between hacks

[woeful shadow]

thats... weird

[vocal geode]

it's too fast for me I don't like it

[plain saddle]

Dependencies are a difficult concept.

Modded devs haven't heard of making the mod with all the real dependencies, and then a modpack with suggested extra mods.

[warm burrow]

idk I like to add mods to depencies just so people have to download them

[solemn wigeon]

Should make modlist a dependency to every mod and then recommend vanilla pub players to download it so they can quickly check to see if anyone else is using mods sneakily

[rapid tusk]

@glossy crescent Is there a new password?

[woeful shadow]

that is the new password

[royal lichen]

3min

(i guess rt6... is the new pw but checking)

yep, r8a2 secondary just as above, rt6o9-ospdo (no zero numbers, just letter o's)

[woeful shadow]

I figured it was the new pw because its different than the one they had yesterday which we had a very lengthy discussion about because 1 character was wrong

[royal lichen]

nice, enjoy

[lyric schooner]

will doing R8B4 secondary objective ||apparently cooperating with schaeffer?|| get me a different result for the level? will I need to play it twice to unlock two different endings?

[deft kiln]

yeah you will get two achievements

[lyric schooner]

for each respective ending?

[deft kiln]

yup

[lyric schooner]

😢

will they unlock different levels or something of the sort?

[pliant shard]

No just achieves

[late nebula]

Doing the secondary just makes the extract insanely harder than just doing main only

[chrome halo]

SO. Is the secondary on ||R8E2 required to finish the mission?||

[late nebula]

Yes

[chrome halo]

AH. Ok.

Whelp time for pain lol

[vocal geode]

no you can still only do the main if you want to

[deft kiln]

?

[vocal geode]

if you want the secondary completion you finish the reactor

[vocal geode]

what?

[deft kiln]

no you need both

the door doesnt open

[vocal geode]

wait

it doesn't?

[deft kiln]

nope

[vocal geode]

it's a required secondary?

[deft kiln]

yeah as far as i am aware

[vocal geode]

I didn't know that

I thought it was optional like all other side objectives

[chrome halo]

ahh. yea thats what we thought but we weren't sure and dipped into secondary cuz clock was ticking

[vocal geode]

that's weird

why didn't they just make the reactor part of the main then?

[deft kiln]

Because it is sick as fuck

[vocal geode]

how so?

[deft kiln]

Last level you have to do everything

[vocal geode]

why not just make it main then? lol

I mean I guess it doesn't really matter

just find it strange

[chrome halo]

alrighty once more into the breach lol. thanks for confirming cuz we were all going "UHHHH" lol

[vocal geode]

also important to know, terminals in the secondary cannot be used to extend time

they don't have the admin override command

[chrome halo]

ahhh ok. so the extra time we get is what we get. noted. Thanks!

[vocal geode]

you do however get 20 extra minutes for starting the reactor

and 10 for finishing it

[chrome halo]

neat. Thank you!

If time runs out, can you get more? Or is it just "nope you're done"

[vocal geode]

I don't actually know

I just know when the time runs out there's surge waves that don't stop

[chrome halo]

yea we ran into those once lol before we figured out how the terminal commands worked on this mission.

[vocal geode]

idk if you can recover from it by extending time

[livid heath]

error

just basically mean youre done

[chrome halo]

Yea I know a nasty error starts, but can you shut it down if you find another terminal that would have the override?

[livid heath]

for the level design and respawn rooms

it is not possible for you to run out of lock down time and make it pass both reactor and the bypass command on the left side where the class VI is

[vocal geode]

that's the thing, I don't know

I never got to that point

usually when we had the time run out we were dead from other things anyway

[livid heath]

theres no error alarm turn off

[chrome halo]

Okay, what I'm asking is, if you get to a terminal that would give you more time, can you use that to buy more time with no error? or is it it hits 0 and you're basically done if you're not on extraction?

[vocal geode]

I wonder if some group is gonna be crazy enough to do the entire level with an error alarm

[livid heath]

yes

the 1st 4 terminals

[chrome halo]

ok, thanks. Don't let the timer out lol. OKAY. Time to try again

[livid heath]

gives you 5 mins each

[chrome halo]

We know that

[vocal geode]

important tip

try to get ammo

ping them with terminals

very important at the start

[chrome halo]

what I'm asking is, if the timer hits 0. And the error starts. Can you get to a terminal that would normally give you more time. And use the time override command to stop the error alarm for those 5 minutes?

[livid heath]

really doesnt matter

when you just push with team

[vocal geode]

??

[livid heath]

no time lol

no def timed clear on respawn

and even if you skip

will not 100% your chance on the next room?

[vocal geode]

I don't understand what you're trying to say

[livid heath]

it takes longer and youd loose more time after class VI nightmare

[vocal geode]

I'm saying at the beginning

[livid heath]

begining is easy

[vocal geode]

and I was gonna say the sections before that alarm door

[livid heath]

if its not at the end room on the 1st zone (ammo/meds/tool)

its a unlucky spawn

but youd get enough spawn points for em

[vocal geode]

it's still good to go for them if you can

[livid heath]

not too hard to remember em

but pubs ive been with bring guns for the clear (just to make sure we dont skip enemies before scans)

[tough atlas]

I'm pretty sure you can't

[chrome halo]

ahh ok. Thanks! Didn't think so, but was just wondering

[tough atlas]

If I'm interpreting correctly your question

Once timer reaches 0, nothing will stop the waves

[chrome halo]

Ah okay. Yea that answers it, thank you very much!

[tough atlas]

I think I remember once trying that very thing at the first terminal

[chrome halo]

gooood to know! Yea this one is gonna take a while I think lol. We got to the secondary and wow. This mission isn't pulling any punches. LOVE it!

[chrome rivet]

Whates code for R8A2?

[warm burrow]

@glossy crescent

[half hornet]

Somehow i never bothered to learn how much HP fliers have...

Huh, 16.2... I was guessing 15, not too far off.

[warm burrow]

Huh

oh yeah indeed

[half hornet]

Oh, fucking perfect... And HEL Gun is precisely 16.25 dmg

A guaranteed oneshot as long as those assholes are within 15m

[azure fjord]

anyone got this weeks password for r8a2 sec?

[late nebula]

[warm burrow]

If you look about 6 messages up it may be there

[azure fjord]

I will pretend this never happened lol

[late nebula]

My honest reaction:

[livid heath]

my reaction to this information:

[half hornet]

R8D2 extreme secondary is being a bitch

Maybe i should just... Take the L and just remove most of the fog.

How bad can it be.

[livid heath]

just choose lol

bring fog repeller power

done

[half hornet]

There is a turbine i suppose

[livid heath]

yeah

theres that turbine

[half hornet]

But that will make completing the rest of main a piece of shit. Can't get quickly enough anywhere, have to be constantly linked to him.

[livid heath]

28-29%

gives the turbine a 2.5m increase

[half hornet]

Plus i don't know how far the fog will be lowered

[wary olive]

Rest of main is not that bad doing the class 7

[livid heath]

60 gives it a solid 8m

[deft kiln]

If you don’t fully lower the map

[late nebula]

||Near the very end of the level after doing a certain command, it will clear all fog||

[deft kiln]

it isn’t amazing

[half hornet]

Like the Mother den - will it be fully covered, or i just won't be able to crouch or....

[livid heath]

now that you mentioned it

[half hornet]

Well that solves that at least. But still... There is the vogen alarm, the mother fight. Urgh.

[livid heath]

ive not done one without doing the class IX

[late nebula]

If you do strong alarm, the fog is head level in the mom room and everything after will be submerged in fog

[half hornet]

One squad of mine almost had it. This one ALSO almost had it, but i pretty much cost us the run because i have approx same survival instincts as bots

I can't choose correctly wether or not i scan at all costs or do something else

When i see a scan and 10 nightmares inbetween - i just rush the scan and... Predictable results, honestly.
Straight bot behavior.

[late nebula]

Strong alarm fog is possible, it’s just when I did it, we forgot to bring the turbine with us into the main canal 😭

[half hornet]

These last 2 levels around going to be hell, and its such a blueball to be this close to being officially finished.

[inland island]

is there a turbine in r8d1

dont tell me we have to use fog repellors

[late nebula]

Yes

[inland island]

which door

left
front or right

||the room with 4 sec doors||

[late nebula]

Did you open zone 40 for the other team

[inland island]

i dont know
we just went down
did the thing and then we came back up

used the left sec door

then died after a few areas

too foggy

bbcs in the fog..

[late nebula]

When you enter the big pit respawn room, the other team tells you they need security clearance to zone 40. The terminal at the bottom will have the command to do so. Once you go back up, one of the adjacent zones will unlock (Idk the zone #). Go through those zones and at the end will be a disinfect station, a turbine, and one of the terminals needed to open Plant Nursery

[prisma zodiac]

clear the rest of the room -> shoot them

[inland island]

i was doing my thing then my friend alerted the horde

the sleeper)

[cosmic quail]

:D

Does someone have scatter

[late nebula]

If your team is not confident stealthing in fog, then yeah just go loud in a spot you can defend easily

[inland island]

no ammo

smh

[cosmic quail]

Wait what

[inland island]

it was low

we didnt want to fight

[late nebula]

Randos bringing scatter and still dying to a charging bbc 💀

[inland island]

no

hel gun moment

[cosmic quail]

15 m scattergun shot 🙏

Hel Gun is not the best cgiant counter

[late nebula]

You should have enough ammo by the time you enter those zones. Did you alert a lot of enemies beforehand

[inland island]

i know

i line up smol chargers

so i can shoot them

[cosmic quail]

Did you pull 4 red scans

[inland island]

no we went stealth

but you know

the room where it goes all the way down

we killed a few guys

[half hornet]

The 37 HP on nightmares is such bullshit

Horrifc breakpoints everywhere

[late nebula]

A nightmare for Artek

[cosmic quail]

Artek suffering

[half hornet]

3 HEL Gun shots, 2 HEL Rifle shots...

[deft kiln]

It is crazy that hel gun needs to hit like 3.5 pen on bbcs to have more ammo efficiency into giant

[late nebula]

Then you shouldn’t have had ammo problems. Did you scavenge enough resources

[inland island]

yes we did

[cosmic quail]

Did you pull any scouts

Can y'all aim

[inland island]

do you think 60% for each weapon is enough

[cosmic quail]

Yes

[inland island]

we killed all of em stealth

i didnt my friend did

[deft kiln]

Yeah 60% ammo is enough to play through like all a1 levels

Tbh

[inland island]

i had a knife and i didnt want to risk it

r8d1

[cosmic quail]

60% is defo enough

[late nebula]

Unfortunate

[inland island]

yeah my friends did that for me

they were experienced

but you know

sometimes they fuck up too

[late nebula]

I should use knife so I have randos kill scouts for me /j

[inland island]

for real

i also had the dmg mod on my knife

because chargers

[deft kiln]

To make ransoms kill scouts just stealth around the scout

[cosmic quail]

Just bring hammer

Masochist

[inland island]

not when there is another sleeper beside it

also there were 2 scouts and they were kissing

or smth

[cosmic quail]

You have hel gun

[inland island]

no

[late nebula]

But anyways, you should have had enough ammo to go loud in the last zone with fog

[cosmic quail]

Line up double occu

:D

[inland island]

i shall master knife

[inland island]

what

[late nebula]

Only if you’re not confident stealthing in fog

[inland island]

i can stealth in fog

i dont know what happened there
my friends alerted the sleepers

[cosmic quail]

Could a just killed one of the scouts with a gun

[late nebula]

Your friends need to use this mechanic called a shove 😭

[cosmic quail]

And defended

[inland island]

do you think they could see in the fog