#gtfo-spoiler-chat
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Ray the sleepers just stopped after host migration
we walked to the end
Ray it is the last gtfo level that ended with us just afking on scan
Jish, that is the perfect ending.
It is but
Like R7D1, it is what defines GTFO.
ray I got a fade to black as host
As a game.
while the guy was talking
You only get it as host
W8, liquid bug or frfr fade to black?
frfr fade to black
Actually completely different
B4 secondary is fucked up lmao
Yeah kinda nutty without foam
Sooo
I feel like scatter gun shouldn’t be in the game but also r8 is balanced around it
how do you get R8A2?
Beat E1
Finish the first set
@hexed vapor which side are you on #gtfo-spoiler-chat message
Scatter should not be in the game no lmao
Also what's wrong with scattergun?
its op as fuck
Second one, obviously.

It can one mag a mom by itself
it can nearly 3 shot a tank
But short range?
On 75% of the players in lobby
Or is that a lie
Wait so you're tellingme
I enjoy one tapping giant chargers
Very balanced
Yup
you have the "oh shit" button
On client
"Vox, you host" moment.
It's basically taken snipers place this rundown because sniper got shafted
rip bozo
Last rundown it got one extra bullet than sniper pre refill
BC is basically Sniper rn.
It was already fine then they Uber nerfed sniper
Shotguns = new snipers?
And Uber buffed scatter
Scatter is just a crime against the game
Same with hel shotgun
So game is shotgun fest
It's a HEL Weapon-fest
Hel weapons will always be absurd
Hel revolver, hell shotgun?
Scatter hel shotgun is a real loadout
Hel rifle is actually a monster
It is
Not legal weaponry to be using
Scatter is just the most broken boss killer rn, and every other boss killer has been nerfed or massively reworked.
I enjoy wiping an entire wave with one mag
Like, rn you play Scatter, two HEL weapons, and one variety/support player.
Maybe sub a HEL for another variety/support for some levels.
What is hel rifle
hel rifle
It's like a sniper but it has 5 pierce
for some reason
High damage
Also it's not like Sniper
So DMR?
If it can snipe scouts from across the room then it's a sniper imo
It's more used for wave clear, can kill up to 5 strikers in one shot
Its closest analogues are HCP and choke mod.
It's much slower, but has more range and pen.
Soo
Also, I am increasingly a believer in devs using playrate statistics.
Also due to the limited spawn cap in this game the enemy processing of pen guns
Are just insane
My two brain cells are telling me this: Hel Gun op (except maybe the rifles), bucklands all op, the end.
My theory rn is that we have patches w/ clear outliers. Weapons that are really bad then get buffed, and weapons that are kind of strong or broken get nerfed.
On this new patch, we lose clear outliers. People pick weapons based on what fits the content and what is most appealing. The devs then look at this data, misinterpret it as being strongly indicative of the state of game balance, and they give us massive nerfs and buffs basically at random.
Hel revolver
theres no way hel revo isnt massive pick rate
Wait
Maybe, but I think pub pickrates are somewhat inconsitent.
4 mgs in that level
noobs are probably pretty bad with hel revo
the high rpm one
apparently its natural reload is like 2.8s
Like, auto Mains are very popular weapons, yet all of them are dogshit.
the V or the XII or the 6
I cant wait to get to kennys vod of r8e2 when they realize mg isnt enough
And then weapons like Carbine and CS are pretty overtuned, yet are consistently unappealing for most players.
Idk which one its called, but it says high rpm on it
Veruta*
the alt r6 rebalances were all pretty good
Last two patches have been pretty solid, imo.
Just because something gets a buff doesn't mean it needs a nerf to something else
Scatter buff
same the other way around
Scatter buff
Obviously, we get some Ls, but things are mostly okay.
Why
Scatter buff is just so fucking confusing
Bullpup nerf
That too like bro
This patch is just truly the worst in a while.
These patch notes are truly awful yea
Have you played with current dodge
It is actually
Devs be balancing the wrong guns. Is this any surprising at all?
The worst fix I have ever played
I at least don't mind going back to 0.2s hel gun
^
I wish scatter wasn’t locked in my special slot
it's OP, but I think the community is attached to it at this point
I just wish I could feel like the devs had a strong understanding of their game's balance, and were making decisions around it that made sense.
lol 0.2 felt almost like 0.1 again to me after 0.3
Yeah
I will cry if they touch hel rifle
They won’t
XX
charge up time 3s
Okay actually have you seen the current dodge
It is the
Worst thing
Yes I have lmao, it's not good
I rather play without it
Short Rifle is just clear-as-day evidence that the designer of that weapon does not understand how to play GTFO.
It is a button I hit that drains my stam
Hel rifle: reduced mag size, pierce, increased recoil and ammo total. Basically sniper treatment
Imagine
That is all it does
It's a weird gun
At a specific range it's decent
its a dumb gun
well it doesn't need it but yknow, if I was to nerf it
Maybe on bots its good
It's more than weird, it's weird in a way that makes it terrible. It's also very very very bad in comparison to all of the weapons around it.
same for hel revo, just bring it down to 6 mag
mf you kill a nightmare striker before you stagger it with it
I wonder if its good on bots.
Bots spamming stagger is good, so no.
also bad range
^
Ok
What is good stagger guns again
You have to just not know that half of the aresenal exists to stat short rifle how it is.
Veruta, Arbalist, and HAR.
Veruta is best, ofc.
Shotgun probably has decent stagger, just haven't tried.
It chips enemies around the target, tho.
Ehhhhhh?
Maybe bots get bad value out of it, but for players that's very easy to do.
Bots go for center mass usually
Or I think more around the neck
I've seen them stagger really well against giants
I thought there entire thing was they dont stagger easily
he's trying to say that short rifle stagger is so dogshit that you end up killing the nightmare before getting damage stagger
ye that
because you shot it like 10 times
Because mass ammo consumption I guss
Short Rifle does not have a particularly good TTK stat.
No, the opposite.
Eco matters very little in this game as a weapon stat.
You have very broad classes of weapon, but for the most part you just need to loot efficiently and hit shots.
And again, Combat Shotgun has a very similar eco compared to Short Rifle while being significantly stronger.
so lets see, I just shot a hoard enemy 8 times with my special weapon, it did not flinch the entire time, and that is at short range
but it doesnt matter cuz its dead
no problem here
none whatsoever
clearly
if you use the short rifle i am going to question you
Obviously it's called the short rifle because it's describing the amount of time you'll use it before switching weapons
I am intentionally trolling when I take it.
I'm debating whether I should play it with MP, AR, or AP.
damn
I think I prefer AR feel, and it gives me a bit more range, so maybe that?
I like the bullpup with the high caliber pistol
What are you struggling with in the final run
Just everything, I’ve tried using scouts to stop the tumors from spawning
Someone always dies
Before we get to the security door
Consider killing the scouts first
I kill two
Then I activate two right before the scan
So that all we have to deal with it the scout wave
Instead of tumor dudes
Is it better to just fight the tumor dudes
I'd kill all the scouts, do the scan, sprint to the armory, fight the first wave there, push forward, close the doors behind you and pray. If you have foam its even better
take 3 foam 1 mine, that's probably the best loadout I can give imo if you want to do secondary
No bio?
dunno what you'll be bio-ing
The scout in first room, the scout after mother, the shadow scouts so we can get resources
Making sure the scouts are alone in the 4 scout room
I mean you can take bio if you want, but at the very least take 2 cfoam
Not much I can recommend other than dealing with the wave by the armory, then pushing fast
Lmao the ending of R8C2 is snatchers instead of a tank now
even though the patch notes say R8B3
4 decent players
Not gods, but good enough to get to the final run without much difficulty
yes !
bruh what a lame nerf
Doesn’t really matter that much tbh
what did you think of the rundown jish
Man is the alt story so fucking weak
And why do you keep dodging lethal company sweat grind
It is
I don’t literally hads finals and choir
Back half of rundown was very very good many moments that are very good. R8d2 and r8e2 and great levels r8b4 I have tiny grips with
I think the ending could have used some more work perma foam being a good strategy isn’t my favourite thing in the world
No need to foam, just kite 
Also lame
Slow it down by 2 seconds on the respawn
Would be more than enough tbh or make foggies spawn more than just two boxes like
I love my permafoam strats
I just always ran out of ammo tbh
I never had any hel gun man
Yeah I really disliked the story rundown having dialogue cut out
when I accidentally woke something up
ok but we ended with 4 foggies left
We would shoot each other
By the time you're at second cell, you'd be max infect and no health unless you use medis throughout that section. Ammo and tool are pretty manageable, it's a rare case to run out of it (besides cfoam)
I mean if you perma foam idk if you even see enemies
I feel like you wouldn’t ever need to interact
R8d2 is the coolest level I won’t replay much
Probs hard to pub secondary
Yup I t hink the class 9 might be the best scan in all of base game gtfo
Definitely hard for e2 💀
I got it on first try but it reminds me a lot of d1 samdown
I never played that one ngl
whats your strat, cuz ours was just foam the floor after doors break, ignore scan and fuck tank up when he comes, then have a defender off scan when its not an S
Scatter is very good Beth
we stick scans until tank shows up and I hold wave while the other 3 fuck tank
Ideally
Yeah best play
we had auto burst but I really don’t like that combo ngl
You can just foam stairs. The sentry took out the snatcher on our run and made tank killing easy
?
I did it with foams and mines and then burst and auto
I wasn’t really a fan of either
there is a snatcher?
so p much same strat then ig
Yes
when
Yes
Is it heat
It’s the most tilting part
?
I don’t know jish
Heat bug
It feels 50/50
Must be heat
I dont think we saw a single snatcher in any of our runs
Interesting
but I saw it in kennys stream
I hate it man
I thought it was normal to have a snatcher
Just show up or don’t
Good to know lol
Heat bug very funny
I don’t want the 50/50 shit
Like the rare mom in r7d1
It’s mostly annoying cause it’ll eat all your foam or blow up the mine
I rolled the 1/1000 mother birth from d mom
Beth is the class 9 the best scan in gtfo
Or what
Only one that makes me think other wise is r6c1
ok but the ending r8d2 scan is also cool
You confused me
It is another good one
I liked the t scan and the stationary one
It’s just not terribly hard either tho
I think e2’s scans are cool
I liked it just the alarms are wrong
it can get kinda fucked for the t scan if a wave comes in at the front but you just step off
On it
but permafoam strats make it kinda boring at times
no foam no scatter e2 when
I’d love to get consistent enough to just shoot all of that
I don’t think it would be that bad
gotta save the foam nades
gotta coordinate the burst cannons
Yup 4 spear time
Oh true
if you even roll them
na 4 spear
Don’t LOL me I am right
god
Or it is two clients back client host front
fuck that, im not bringing spear to e2 lol
breads already stuck on bat
games over
Yup
I think I am just a tad disappointed that we didn’t see
Mm is it worse?
The enemies introduced in r8d2 and r8a2 twice
the stagger makes me sad
I am having skill issues
The charge LOL
It’s bad except for blackhops
ngl I hope they change it to the reloaded sledge change
it just eats my stamina
i'm not even trying to dodge half of the time
you’re honestly probably better off just running to the side instead of dodging anyway
Like slide
You can do it on make stam
The b hop
That is the good part
yea
The only reason we are at max Stam is we miss input dodge
I'm curious if they tested the dodge mechanic, because if so, Idk how tf they thought this would pass with its current state
you should’ve seen the state of stam in BH man
My man b4 wasn’t clearable with secondary
On lauch
Of r8
What do you mean tested
😔
They missed the entire point of a level
Ok but jish when is the e2 duo
Tbf I think they would've done better if it weren't for DoW rn
that shit sounds hard
forced to 7 mine tanks
do you just ditch bio then
That’s insane
Mines sentry pdw hel gun scatter? Pdw /hel rev
Is there a sniper sentry angle perhaps
If I where to do it
I think you take one pdw
I don’t even know if I would take any
Those scans are brutal and they’re gonna be even longer as duo
I think if no bio
Those S scans will fuck you
you need foam prolly
Wait honestly guys
Hel auto pp is kinda busted
shut up
I dont think you can afford that in duo jish
That's what I been sayinG!!
you need the killing power
Hel gun makes up for it
This level just sucks to duo I think
You solo all shadow giants with it no joke, 6 bullet stagger
I know it staggers good but stagger isn’t going to kill the wave
No spoilers but yeah idk can’t wait to see the solo
wonder how someone will cap sleepers
And it isn’t going to hold it long enough for anything meaningful
Babies on box
Shooter cap kinda level jish
Door bug
I can feel it
LOL
Fuck you guys
LMAO
Sleep?
Who needs sleep?
what's this week's?
changes every week, this week is dx2ky-9wqk2
Thank you
I'm trying to find the log in R8A2, it should be in zone 69
but I can't find it
same terminal you need to put the code in btw
code?
||from checkpoint, go down the stairs in front of you, the wall with the moss is a fake one, go through it||
the code you just asked for a second ago?
I know that, and I did secondary already
last week
but I'm trying to find the log in zone 69, there should be one
but it's not on hidden terminal or on normal one
No
There’s a terminal you put the code into in 69
You get the code through b2 main and secondary
ah no idea about that
You enter a command to activate secondary once you unlock it
Oh I see
It’s on the hidden terminal
Type “logs” after you unlock it and you’ll see it
Theres another terminal in zone 69
It only has AUTOGEN_STATUS
I'm following this for the logs, and in spreadsheet, it says that there should be one in zone 69
@high vortex this is secret terminal
Yes, but there's no log to read
on either terminals
Unless the spreadsheet is incorrect?
spreadsheet is correct, i opened that very log this week
on secret terminal?
yeah but how were you supposed to know that it has a log
for sure
got it, thank you Ben
, you're a lifesaver
Go get those 188 logs
I'm turning into log speedrunner
I know that last 10-20 logs will be the worst to find
I have a strange feeling the last one will be the hardest one to find

That's usually the case with collectables or achievements
suicide by fall damage
yes
I am 99% sure, and I can confirm, that achievements that do not state that you have to complete the level, count if you leave expedition
Yes it counts. You don't need to win/lose. Just anyone in the team "READ" the log
do you need to reach the end of the log? looking at the r2b2 32000 line spreadsheet of people who exist
000-000-000?
no
i spent 10 minutes of my life
we tried both but it was not unlocking
although, are we sure that 188th log is in the game? It could be a bug
nice
Wait, D0cr3d, did anyone got the achievement for finding all logs, with having 188 logs read?
I'm positive no one has it legit
Because I'm 99% sure that I read every log and I screenshotted all of them, comparing it to the spreadsheet that tru0067 made, talked to Fireblade and Ben and another friend
and we're all stuck on 187/188
this might actually be a ping moment?
ohnits in the ryles? nvm then doont
like, not ping devs or mods?
Ping.
Since I do have screenshots, I could actually check if it's a bug, if it's possible to see which log I'm missing
oh shit, imma dev, your mom, or something
When playing with Hange and we got to the || voice recordings.
Me: YO MOMMA SO FAT- ||
Vogen: "Your Mother has such excessive weight that-"
im sure he reads chat very often
They need to bring back the actual "your mom" voice line
@glossy crescent Summon Docred then

i can ping him for you
just joking
XD

It's fine, don't ping
if i see him later ill tell him
Unless we just collectively write down a part of the name
this one bug will be your final stand
im gonna grind all logs
then die form anxiety watching 187/188
gl gl
I'll triple check in a bit
make sure to say hi to schaeffer for me
Since I have screenshots of every read log
So I'll just put it in a folder and name every log
oh shit, theres one in there?

yes
||good luck getting it||
they really should add a log counter per level
holy shit
Currently sorting screenshots
but I have screenshot of every log I've read (and there's more than 187)
i just fucked up big
did you wake up pablo?
i had an extra log so i started with 1/188 (a random log in R8)
now i am at 18 in the spreedsheet and my steam cunter says 18 when it should say 19
i revisited every log and it still doesnt count
wait
are you going from R1?
yes
i hae no idea
new log they added?
friend and I have a suspicion that there was one log which could be broken
in one of the R1 logs?
ofc there are terminals that have multiple logs, but it's kinda funny there's exactly 187 terminals with logfiles.
i might be tripping and i have missed something
you can check trus spreedsheet
I did
double checked it
I have all of them checked
and I have screenshots proving that I've read them
i can check exactly which one, i should have only 1 log
I suspect that there is a log that's broken in R1D1
LMAO
sweet
someone checked a log last night lol kinda bummed, would have loved to rock a 0/188
can you go in voice channel or should I just tell you which one?
WAIT
does the log once a team finds it counts to you too?
yes
yes
i think i know which log is it
We're in Hybrid voice channel
a team of mine found a log in R8E2
b right there
which means i should have 1/188 but then later that day i checked the log in R8A2 sec
which means i should have started with 2/188
idk if this helps
Just do a modded rundown that has no logs and boom. 188/188

Pretty much if you want log achievement legit. You can't play modded rundowns
that doesnt work anymore
lol
Allegedly
They did
they removed my achivement
damn
It also reversed the achievement
So you're saying if someone got it legit and then did modded.
i am going for the chevo now
They would lose the achievement?
meanwhile, I played GTFOKart last night and got 3 achievements I shouldn’t have
you have 1/188 right
You mean Lockout3

nah now i have 9/188
someone pulled a few more logs from R8 than i thought
plus i did R1D1
this is making me think hard
because either the game didnt count it as read
or i did something wrong
Yeah, GTFO Kart
||This is my bucket. There are many like it, but this one is mine.||
||My bucket is my best friend. It is my life. I must master it as I must master my life.||
||My bucket, without me, is useless. Without my bucket, I am useless. I must use my bucket true. I must shoot straighter than my enemy who is trying to kill me. I must shoot him before he shoots me. I will …||
||My bucket and myself know that what counts in this war is not the rounds we fire, the noise of our burst, nor the smoke we make. We know that it is the hits that count. We will hit….||
||My bucket is human, even as I, because it is my life. Thus, I will learn it as a brother. I will learn its weaknesses, its strength, its parts, its accessories, its sights and its barrel. I will ever guard it against the ravages of weather and damage as I will ever guard my legs, my arms, my eyes and my heart against damage. I will keep my bucket clean and ready. We will become part of each other. We will ….||
||Before God, I swear this creed. My bucket and myself are the defenders of my country. We are the masters of our enemy. We are the saviors of my life.||
||So be it, until victory and there is no enemy, but peace!!||
So, the last log is just broken then?
most likely yes
As far as I know, I can confirm that 3 people and I, found all logs yet one didn't count
or it doesn't exist

once i start from scratch, and can identify which level it is on, i will ping doc
when are you starting?
darn they fixed E2 no more cheese
imagine cheesing
i mean, if you are free
in like 1 hour or 2
its alot of dropping and exiting
I am currently developing two levels, one of which Pable will very much like
and ya, you can hop along when you can (:
You use the MRI machine and perform a medical checkup on Pablo because Dr Hammerstein is worried ab his health
can you check R2 logs?

Pablo lore

Yes
i will aftwr R8
You have to walk him, give him doses of radiation, feed him snacks, give him an MRI, etc
This is my favorite level idea
just a level, a rundown would get tedious
escort missions can be done well, but even then they should be rare
@pliant pasture if you do Log hunting, feel free to let me know if you notice which log is broken. I'm curious to know
Yup
Occlusion’s Pablo level is like 15 minutes on main, 30 on ex
i am checking 1 by 1 rn. i am def going to tell which one is broke

tell me when you start R1
doing R2 next as per
it'll be a minute
still on R8
next*
yee
in which level does schaeffer drop us down by overriding the warden and helps us to get out of wardens control and the level has error alarms and stuff
R7D2
ty
the level he gets access to the Warden, ya schaefer does not help us free from the warden before R8: spoilers ||never ||
it is r7d2
okay i just did the second log in R8D1 zone 427 and it didn't count
first one did
Are you sure you didn't read it already?
Or anyone in a previous session didn't read it with you in the expedition with them?
that would be # 5 from R8 that i tried that didn't count, meaning the 4 i started with (which i know includes the three from C1 and probably the second from A1) have been accounted for
I can send you my tallies
i "started" with 4 and have been counting up one by one from there
it could be one of the other 4, but D1 is the most likey by far
huh
let me check
let me double check, i will test that log again, maybe leaving while the audio in progress bjorked it
no it doesnt
it shouldnt
i will double check anyway
it does
you need to start the audio log
abort the audio log
then leave
edit; if you leave the mission 'while its still playing' no countie
sorry for the false alarm, just finishing understanding how it works
well
im still curious
how my team read an E2 log and i read the secret log in A2 sec
and steam said 1/188
🤷♂️
I'd be happy to do some checking if there are other logs that you think aren't working or can't be found
Could be the network syncing lost the packet
i will send my spreadsheet when i am done
so even network is fucking up achivements
is only maybe
can you check R2 logs after you finish R8
let me finish R8 and i will see what else i got time for
This wasn't in the session with Wheat, but me and my friend are pretty sure that there is a bug or something unknown causing issue with the finding all Logs, achievement
How many do you have?
so, schaeffer really dies?
yes, both of them do
they have 187/188
did you note down everywhere you got them from?
@hybrid ember can you start game post patch then send me your log file please
There's a log on the dx2ky terminal in A2, didn't realise that lol
That might be the one you're missing?
Since it never tells you theres logs on there
where in the game folder exactly
they have it
User/AppData/LocalLow/10cc
in any case I missed that one, at 185/188 now
also can I send you in DMs?
Absolutely
Sent a message
wheres the hidden terminal for R8a2 sec?
Do bots count for controlled response
or do i gotta equip them with pistols and revos
it says alone
alone
its easy

Password for R8a2 secondary terminal?
dx2ky-9wqk2
cant be bothered tbh
SI SE PUEDE
the team that stays behind is the ALT?
yes
yea it's boring
what's the meaning of the ending of R8A2? everybody dies there
troll ending
the good ending
it's alt or OG team there?
A2-E2 is OG team
It's A2 so OG team
thx
bugs in my gtfo? more likely than you think
in wich mission both teams are reunited in the same dimension?
thats all of R8 lol
both teams are in the same garganta
and most of the levels play at the same time
hmmm
but there's a exact time that one of the teams travels to the other dimension or this happens off screen?
ALT team travels to desert planet and "nightmare" garganta
OG team only travels to another dimension at the end of E2
after they succesfully use the data cubes to go into a "clean" dimension (i dont remember if they travel to "nightmare" garganta other than A2 sec)
sorry my english is a work in progress, i mean when (alt or OG team) the travel to the same dimension of one another, this happens in gameplay?
if yes in wich mission this happens?
they travel to the same dimension of one another?
yea, the are in the same complex at R8D1, d2, E1 and E2
so when they got in the same complex?
hmmm
its never fully explained WHEN
its just said that it happends
by ALT schaeffer in R8D2
i see, or may the dimensions are mergin for the use of MWP, the plot is difficult to understand
yeah most probably
we messed with the matter projector too much
and thats what caused it
i really like this game, I just wish I was a good GTFO player hehehehe
Same ong
So you're supposed to go to that door thats in emergency lockdown after doing the team scan past the scouts in A2 secondary, right
maybe u need to wish u and ur teammate can cooperate teamwork better
yes
Pain
So whats the strat, kill all the bosses and all the scouts and then run for it?
kill the scouts do the scan
and then GTFO
because its an error
also you can skip the scouts
but running back to the door will be..... a mess
@narrow gulch did you hold in reactor for r8e2
held in the pillar room for code 1-2 then reactor for 3
you can do reactor for all 3 just fine though prolly
uhhh
first time when we had 2
we pulled them into the pillar room for easier kill
Why hold in big area with no cover for tanks
on the very first attempt we got to reactor
we had the spawns get super fucked up from holding outside it
like
tanks took 5 minutes to get to us
the giant shadow wave showed up as a trickle for 8 minutes solid
hold bulkhead lmao
it was SO fucked
Thats what I'm saying
we had like 2 minutes for last code and died cuz we pulled it out of panic
😢
was very strange
I'm being told that people are like "YOU gotta hold reactor room"
Pulling that room is probably not advisable :D
Oh, don't worry, we did exactly the same mistake, once
for 3 prolly not
I think we will continue the
hold in reactor till 2 tanks are there then move to pillar
though last time we did it bread and jish kinda gamered on the tanks the instant they showed up in the doorway
Yes
scatter too dumb
Bread and jish!
Hold bulkhead you can literally just camp all the giants flushing in
just wish theyd fix reactor spawns
It's easy money
Access to flyer spawns, a door they funnel through, and plenty of tank cover
Why wouldn't you hold pillar
for the giants on wave 1 we just pushed back to the scan door and they line up on the way down the wall in reactor





