gtfo-spoiler-chat

[west crow]

hel hel revolver

[cold heart]

@jaunty hedge ARREST THIS GUY FOR STEALING MY JOKE

[velvet linden]

while you're at it unban me from lore chat

[balmy robin]

Burst HEL Cannon

[west crow]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/829676758282272802/1149434200324317214/great.gif

[kind swan]

Special Hel Revolver

[half hornet]

You love spamming that, don't you

[kind swan]

maybe.

[still mica]

The hel ||diaper||

[kind swan]

Hel Syringe

[meager nebula]

Stop I almost started laughing in class

[deft kiln]

If they put hel on scatter gun

The balance of this game is over tbh

I think we might be seeing a smg buff with hel or something

Also got a feeling we will be seeing a hel rev nerf

It has to be

[cold heart]

hope they put scatter on hel revolver

[deft kiln]

I do to friend

[half hornet]

Surely they will nerf damage to compensate, right?

[deft kiln]

Na

[half hornet]

I don't think they intended for it to be a boss nuker

[still mica]

||Instead of cosmetics they add weapon attachments in r6||

[half hornet]

They want to make a Wave-Be-Gone

[deft kiln]

They don’t balance around pen potential

Never have never will

[kind swan]

I can imagine

It's hel on a Sentry

[narrow gulch]

its gonna be auto sentry

[kind swan]

But which one?

[still mica]

True no one uses it

[deft kiln]

Still gonna be bad

[narrow gulch]

so true

[deft kiln]

Let’s not kill

[still mica]

Auto sentry would be cool if they gave you two of them

[deft kiln]

No

[still mica]

Yes

[deft kiln]

Incorrect

[still mica]

Source?!?

[narrow gulch]

we would have even less tool then

[kind swan]

Engineer Gemini Sentries moment

[deft kiln]

My source is the sex I had with your dad last night

[prisma zodiac]

Ah yes, the close range super low ammo shotgun is not supposed to kill bosses

[kind swan]

It's for killing teammates isn't it.

[astral ferry]

wish we had footage of pre-nerf scattergun

[narrow gulch]

wait that was aimed at SCATTERGUN?

theres no way

[kind swan]

Scattergun pen ?

[deft kiln]

If only someone could have recorded back Tehran

[kind swan]

[deft kiln]

XD

[prisma zodiac]

I kinda disagree

Specials definetly are kind of balaced around it, not to peak pen gameplay but you can see it with hel gun and rifle

Both having charge up
Rifle having cooldown time

Hel gun having a comparebly lower refill than other guns of similar stats

Hel revo is the most obvious outlier tho

[prisma zodiac]

True

[deft kiln]

But not the lowest

[prisma zodiac]

It exists ?

[narrow gulch]

hel shotgun lmao

tho you could even argue for hel shotty

[prisma zodiac]

The lowest?

[west crow]

i hope they fix the hel penetration bug

[prisma zodiac]

lowest pen potential is no pen

[deft kiln]

They are midded of the pack hel gun you don’t event need crazy pens

[narrow gulch]

cuz the comparison point is fucking sawed off

[prisma zodiac]

imagine sawed off with bigger mag size

thing would be brutal

[narrow gulch]

idd still bring hel shotty

ngl

[still mica]

saws you in half

[deft kiln]

I hope they make it worse

Let me skip over sleepers when I am pening them

[astral ferry]

pen makes the gun fights shorter :((

unoptimal for fun

[deft kiln]

Based

[prisma zodiac]

Getting massive multi = lots of chemicals being released

very fun

[native lily]

I cant believe they are giving us a handheld landmine

[deft kiln]

Can we get a 7 pen sniper that doesn’t work

[west crow]

thank you devs for changing a 0 to a 1

[broken scarab]

Well, we gotta do something between breakfast and climbing mountains

[cold heart]

can yall invite me over to your next vacation?

[broken scarab]

Vacation? That shit was crazy.

[velvet linden]

calle can you unban me from lore channel

[cold heart]

yeah ikr, it just keeps happening!

[still mica]

Calle more like ||HEL Calle||

[deft kiln]

Are we getting a crazy meta shift or just some tiny changes to some guns?

[prisma zodiac]

jish its gonna drop in... 18 hours?

[deft kiln]

Yeah

And I want the inside scoop

The calle angle

I also want to know how much I will have to change my sheets

[coarse berry]

Wait we're actually getting balancing changes??

[deft kiln]

At least one

Hel is getting added to something

Top contenders are scatter,auto or one of the smg’s. Feel like Har is one we could consider aswell

[nocturne flax]

either theyre adding hel to an irrelevant weapon

or just readding pen to scatter

because obivously it was broken when they added it

probably gonna make hel smg

because instead of actually balancing the guns

[deft kiln]

I could see hel har in r6

[coarse berry]

I cant see many guns that would be fixed by hel

[nocturne flax]

its better to just slap hel for the "shock" factor

that heist game they doing better be good

[deft kiln]

I am pre ordering it

[west crow]

you got your buff black dragon!!

hmsg!! now hel smg!!

[nocturne flax]

yeah i just had to fight stupid people

[west crow]

special weapon!!

[nocturne flax]

30 bullet bullpup my ass

bug hunter with big ass ego and can barely beat a C tier

they can suck my

[west crow]

the bullpup will be getting a reload buff

[nocturne flax]

donkey kong

[half hornet]

Bullpup.
Auto sentry.
Precision Rifle (?).
Heavy SMG so it wasn't just a shutter PDW.

[coarse berry]

Bullpup would not benefit at all

[nocturne flax]

if you truly believe adding hel to those weapons

will fix any of them

[west crow]

hel auto sentry

[nocturne flax]

your delusional

[deft kiln]

Auto sentry getting hel ignores the probs with auto sentry

[nocturne flax]

and drank too much of your own modded rundown

[west crow]

they're fixing the bug where cfoam was missing hel in its name

[coarse berry]

Hel precision rifle would just become a souped up hel gun then?

[west crow]

it penetrates through doors

[deft kiln]

XD

[coarse berry]

Finally, hel cfoam

[west crow]

god no

[deft kiln]

Hel pr would be strong?

[west crow]

that would do nothing for the eapon

[deft kiln]

All they needed to do was not make it or give it a 2.5 second reload

[nocturne flax]

can we please have the deployable shield on r6

instead of r8

pls pls pls

😭

[deft kiln]

I love redundancy in the weapon selection if only there was a way we could have chosen to put thermal scope on a weapon like some type of customization system where you could make rev have the thermal scope we could call it Maddox’s gun dungeon or something

[west crow]

can i deploy the shield on ladders

[deft kiln]

Always

[nocturne flax]

can we have giant punching sounds for regular strikers when they get close to it?

[west crow]

they just stare at it like how they break doors

[deft kiln]

Sleeping snatcher!

Sleeping snatcher!

[nocturne flax]

just like in the trailer!!

[deft kiln]

R6d3

[west crow]

Sleeping pouncer!

Sleeping pouncer!

[deft kiln]

Sleeping snatcher

[west crow]

Sleeping pouncer!

[nocturne flax]

STRIKER_BOSS sleeping!

[west crow]

they're adding an immortal to the tank room in d3

SICK of people clearing it

[deft kiln]

Maybe we could have a squid_boss stealth section

[west crow]

who will be max cap kiting the respawn immortals

[deft kiln]

Me

I will

[coarse berry]

Finally the heavy bullpup rifle would be created

[nocturne flax]

docred told me i could do my own BULLPUP!!!

[prisma zodiac]

hel heavy thermal bullpup shotgun rifle

[nocturne flax]

he surely didnt lie to me

also pls unblock me

[deft kiln]

Scatter

[nocturne flax]

im a change man

[prisma zodiac]

imagine scattergun pre nerf with pen

[deft kiln]

we won’t have to

[coarse berry]

Bullpup with underslung sawed-off

[deft kiln]

😔

[prisma zodiac]

1 shot more dmg than the whole refill of others

[coarse berry]

i'm trying to think what gun they're actually gonna give hel

[deft kiln]

Hel hel rev

[coarse berry]

auto sentry does seem like it might be the case but idk if that'd be 'interesting'

hel High Cal?

[deft kiln]

Power creep on sentry is crazy

[narrow gulch]

Hel har would make me very happy but I doubt that

[coarse berry]

hel regular pistol

y'know i had a dream about this game a few nights ago where they made the bullpup rifle hel

a vision, perhaps

of the worst timeline

[deft kiln]

I think it would be the change I would be most excited about

It would add another top weapon pick

Plus scatter

[prisma zodiac]

hmm kinda. kinda not? but i feel like it depends on what you would see as balanced

[nocturne flax]

Hel machinegun

veruta final buff

[deft kiln]

sniper sentry without bio symbiosis

[prisma zodiac]

we had giga busted shotgun sentry
then r3 had nothing rly
R4 had sniper sentry in a state thats around current sniper sentry (inbetween non bio and bio)

[nocturne flax]

can we pls buff sniper sentry just a tad bit

[prisma zodiac]

R6 fixed burst missing 24/7

sniper sentry buff but remove bio symbiosis

[nocturne flax]

my bad for the r6 sentry

[coarse berry]

yes please

[nocturne flax]

i made my friend mad

[deft kiln]

Can we get a mine buff

(Not joke)

[prisma zodiac]

aha

[prisma zodiac]

honestly think its a good idea if you couple it with shotgun sentry removal/massive rework

[deft kiln]

I like the mod idea that made shotty auto sentry

And it wasn’t as good as burst

[nocturne flax]

I honestly believe i am the only one who thinks shotgun sentry its fine as it is

[still mica]

||HEL|| HEL Revolver

[nocturne flax]

its so good if your placement it good

[deft kiln]

I think I’d burst was also placement dependent

[still mica]

Shoots HEL revolvers

[deft kiln]

I would be more on board

[prisma zodiac]

i dont think its bad strength wise

i just think its so weird to use for such a weirdly normal payoff

[nocturne flax]

i dont know about normal payoff

i always seen it kill more and faster than burst

[prisma zodiac]

cough litteraly my idea since it was re-released cough

[narrow gulch]

All I'm hoping for is free weekend

[coarse berry]

thats it's point really

[deft kiln]

Killing more and fastest isn’t really better

[nocturne flax]

autoshotgun sentry been in modded since forever and its a meme

[deft kiln]

It is the problem with sentry in general

[narrow gulch]

Why did you have to put hel har in my brain

Fuck

[nocturne flax]

?

[prisma zodiac]

its not a meme if you make it good enough to be a good safe for ressources

[deft kiln]

Killing fast isn’t always good.

[nocturne flax]

i know how spawn works

i literally spoke about it weeks ago

months ago

years ago

FUCK IM OLD

[deft kiln]

and shoty sentry does what mine does

[nocturne flax]

GET ME OUT OF THE LOOP

[deft kiln]

But with more tool

[prisma zodiac]

if a sentry holds of 50% of a wave while using far less tool than a sentry that thins 25% then stuff isnt just "kill kill kill"

[nocturne flax]

I HAD THIS CONVERSATION BEFORE

IM OTU

[deft kiln]

🔫

[prisma zodiac]

yes

[nocturne flax]

I feel like im in that movie war of tomorrow with tom cruise

everytime i died i spawn in gtfo spoiler chat

[deft kiln]

Xd

[coarse berry]

you can't escape

[deft kiln]

Stuck in time is about you

[nocturne flax]

WANNA TALK ABOUT CFOAM GOING TROUGH THE DOORS AGAIN

WANNA TALK ABOUT SMG 1.81 DAMAGE

[deft kiln]

YES

[nocturne flax]

FUCKJ

[deft kiln]

spear buff

[nocturne flax]

RELEASE R8

[west crow]

Biggest update of the year

[deft kiln]

I can see why you are a crack head

[prisma zodiac]

@nocturne flax SPEAR

[deft kiln]

you are literally stuck in gtfo spoiler chat

[nocturne flax]

BIOTRACKER ITS USELESS USE YOUR EYES

!!!!!

[deft kiln]

XD

okay real talk tho

[nocturne flax]

I dunno why i come back here everytime theres a annoucement

[deft kiln]

Bio tracker on bot isn’t as good as everyone makes it out

[prisma zodiac]

it depends

its either absolutely ridicolus

or kind a meh

[nocturne flax]

its nice since it pings everything within 2 rooms

[coarse berry]

imo it's the reliability

you'll never get missed enemies (at least 99% of the time)

[prisma zodiac]

its insane vs shadows for newbies

since they arent rly shadows anymore

[nocturne flax]

you can get 100% symbiosis value

[deft kiln]

Then you loss all the free info

[balmy robin]

Game is developed by Swedish people. Clearly a case of Stockholm syndrome.

[deft kiln]

in stealth idk

If it is worth

[nocturne flax]

bro

lmao

[balmy robin]

:D

[deft kiln]

Yeah but I think players against not shadows can get 95% vaule at least on symbiosis

[nocturne flax]

i mean

its biotracker

you can see

like it does what it does

¯_(ツ)_/¯

kna i mean

[deft kiln]

I understand I just think players can do more work with it

I think flicking it and stealth info are just very very worth

[prisma zodiac]

depends but yea

i prefer a good bio player over a bot

with it

but if you have a bot its either that or sentry

sooo

[nocturne flax]

if a plyer got a biotracker

i want him to either

[deft kiln]

Be Jesus or a Femboy

[nocturne flax]

-always tell me everything late when it comes to enemy positioning and during loud sections forgets to ping
or
-be super tacticool and role playing that he invades and micromanages everything i do that makes palying with that person impossible

NO INBETWEEN

you cannot get a gtfo full experience without either of those

[deft kiln]

Weridly enough I think Jesus,femboy covers this

[nocturne flax]

what

[deft kiln]

Don’t worry about it

[coarse berry]

I really want the authentic experience where the player goes "We're shagged" every two seconds

[deft kiln]

Okay for 95% of players yeah

get bio out of their hands give it to duada

But 5% of good bio mains

[frail horizon]

not dauda

[deft kiln]

None of this mute player with bio crap

It is good

[olive shoal]

mute bio main...

[deft kiln]

Stop

[olive shoal]

must run bio...

[coarse berry]

What you don't like "nooo! NOOOOOO!" for 1 enemy

[deft kiln]

Actually the worst play style in the game

[coarse berry]

billions must run mute bio

[olive shoal]

i will type in chat for you jish!

[deft kiln]

Bios are just mostly mute bio players

The just say we are shagged

And I don’t like them playing bio

[olive shoal]

this is why im the best biotracker in the game

[deft kiln]

it is because you have a webcam mic plugged in

and you put the bare amount of effort to tell me

[olive shoal]

i should use the webcam mic

[deft kiln]

That there is a giant behind me

[olive shoal]

jish we need to do a run where i use my webcam mic

and scream bio comms at you

[deft kiln]

R6c3

Rando

First clear

[olive shoal]

LMAO

[nocturne flax]

can we rename back hop or whatever to wesley hop

he did it before it was cool!

[narrow gulch]

Void hop

[nocturne flax]

nah i know wesley since 1939

[deft kiln]

It is bunny hop

End of story

None of this werid naming conventions it is a bunny hop

[prisma zodiac]

eh

[deft kiln]

Runing and jumping isn’t bunny hopping it is wasting stam

[nocturne flax]

So thats why my bar was yellow!!!

[deft kiln]

You take double dmg

When health bar is yellow

[nocturne flax]

fr fr i went from 80% to 0

[deft kiln]

Yeah unfortunate

Next time

You won’t ruin your r1c1

[nocturne flax]

thankfully my friend lag out and had infinite resources and cfoam granades!

super convinient

[deft kiln]

O same

[coarse berry]

hardest level in game

[deft kiln]

I love that tech

Truely r1c1

Is the hardest level

[nocturne flax]

you might joke

but its honestly the one level every new coomer comes gets stuck

[deft kiln]

I think r1c1 being a 6 codes reactor

Would have made it easier

[nocturne flax]

can we pls make it so standing on a circle its more difficult

[deft kiln]

What if the circle was moving

[nocturne flax]

what if the circle was purple?

🤔

[deft kiln]

What if more circle

[nocturne flax]

what if 3 blood doors open at the same time while the purple circle moves

[deft kiln]

What if circle was square

[nocturne flax]

WHAT IF

its multiple circle moving purple scan

[livid heath]

cook in progress

[livid heath]

wha

[deft kiln]

Ooo what if circle could be mom

[livid heath]

so its small T scans inside purple scans?

[nocturne flax]

what if you shoot mom and the circle moves?

🤔

[deft kiln]

ooo

[livid heath]

what if u kill enemies

and the scan goes up

[nocturne flax]

what if nav mesh issues

[deft kiln]

What if circle but it takes your health away to scan

[livid heath]

and if enemies over take the scan goes down

[nocturne flax]

what if the fog setting its heavy

and literally blinds you ingame and irl

[livid heath]

like king of the hill

[deft kiln]

What is only 2 people stab in circle

[livid heath]

more amounts of enemies in the scan goes down quicker

hear me out

how bout surge flyers

[kind swan]

BBC Surge.

[nocturne flax]

@broken scarab do other gun changes are gonna come with the next patch or you guys gonna slap hel to another weapon and call it a day?

also pls give an concrete answer and not a '"UWU no promises"

a yes or no helps

[livid heath]

well see tomorow i guess

im praying for a very good lookin cosmetic

[nocturne flax]

im praying for me playing the level an actually getting the cosmetic

[livid heath]

PLEASE

I JUST WANT A GOOD COSMETIC

[nocturne flax]

not beating half a rundown and then realizing im not getting nothing

then having to do a reset

[livid heath]

oh right

i done R5E1 b4 i could even realize i didnt get anything

and didnt even bother to ask for a reset

idk bout you dragon

but i got a big feeling for A-B tier buffs

[half hornet]

Makes me glad updates always deploy middle of my work time

[livid heath]

and good levels getting nerfed

[half hornet]

Gives me a healthy 5+ hour buffer where people can test the waters

[livid heath]

well

cant do anything can ya?

[atomic escarp]

technically there was one

[livid heath]

R7C2

that aint hard

[atomic escarp]

r6d2 sec

class 6 alarm

[livid heath]

no surge

dummy

[coarse berry]

the fabled Bullpup buff eludes us once again

[livid heath]

hell naw

that gun goofy af

[coarse berry]

the most oppressed gtfo group

[livid heath]

yes

and it better stay that way

[coarse berry]

this is war

[livid heath]

and yes

I FUCKING LOVE WAR JACK

[prisma zodiac]

Spear enjoyers being oppressed so hard that they are forgotten

[coarse berry]

deserved

[livid heath]

KIDS ARE CRUEL AND IM VERY MUCH INTOUCH WITH MY INNER CHILD

[coarse berry]

second only to no-biotracker teams

[prisma zodiac]

no bio is sickening

[coarse berry]

chad loadout

[prisma zodiac]

unless its for a good good reason

[coarse berry]

every level I can get away with it

[prisma zodiac]

honestly
i gotta do 4 auto sentry fun loadouts again

[coarse berry]

"shouldn't we bring bio?" >"What are you, a baby?"

[prisma zodiac]

it sounds hilarious

[livid heath]

name 1

quick

[coarse berry]

any level without shadows

or thick ass fog

[livid heath]

[prisma zodiac]

or lack of light

[livid heath]

i watch in happiness of no thermal sights

[coarse berry]

sounds like someone didn't eat enough carrots

can't see in the dark

[prisma zodiac]

lend me your strength

[nocturne flax]

you got these people

and then you got the worst of the worst

wich are the people who think you actually need cheese to beat this game

like any level of cheese

[broken scarab]

Yes. UwU.

[nocturne flax]

Nice

[silent kettle]

Nice

[nocturne flax]

first actual concrete answer by 10cc

the future seems bright

[livid heath]

it sure does

[nocturne flax]

next thing we know they gonna put the numbers on the guns descriptions

[deft kiln]

It doesn’t matter if he only said yes

[coarse berry]

way WAY back in the day me and my friends beat r7e1 by cheesing it with doorglitch (in our defense i will blame the person in chat who taught my friend how to do it), and afterwards I was like "you know we're gonna have to go back and do it legit right?" and a buddy goes "no no, you beat it you just used an alternative tactic"

Like what

[deft kiln]

your questions need more

[nocturne flax]

I mean he added the UWU

thats a like double down type thing

[daring pilot]

It’s like a pinky promise

[coarse berry]

bullllllpuuuuuuup

[livid heath]

thats strike 1 dragon

[nocturne flax]

Im on strike 17

[livid heath]

for me its 1

[nocturne flax]

fr

we saving this moment

[broken scarab]

Why do that when datamining does it for us

[coarse berry]

Tarkov dev moment ^

[deft kiln]

Based

[nocturne flax]

shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiieeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet

i mean it will be nice

[deft kiln]

Trues spread sheet already just grabs the info and spits it out

[broken scarab]

The patch notes are on Steam, ready to go

[daring pilot]

👀

[coarse berry]

literally frothing at the mouth rn

[prisma zodiac]

honestly, not even numbers, but updating the descriptions would be big

a lot of them are uhh

[nocturne flax]

^

they'are a little too vague

[livid heath]

im having a seizure of fun

cause bullpup finally gets what it deserved

[broken scarab]

Didn’t say that

[daring pilot]

Longer reload time

[livid heath]

shiiiiiieeeet

[nocturne flax]

Like for example sniper could have
Anti Big biomass weapon

so people know its for the big people

[livid heath]

hollee mollleeee

[coarse berry]

[daring pilot]

I mean some people don’t know to headshot with it

So idk if that’ll help

[livid heath]

me when no bullpup buff

[nocturne flax]

its for the people that can actually read

you dont make changes for the people who cannot function

[coarse berry]

the description points out 'hollow point rounds' which doesn't really explain much (and realistically every weapon should have them)

[daring pilot]

Flashbacks to Woops complaining sniper does no damage while driving 3 rounds into a big strikers chhest

[nocturne flax]

but overall a more descriptive description hehe would be nice

[daring pilot]

yeah

[nocturne flax]

since more or less they havent been change since 2019

[broken scarab]

Bullpop has three changes…

[coarse berry]

BIG

[nocturne flax]

WHAT

[coarse berry]

BIG

HUGE

DAMAGE

[daring pilot]

O_o

[coarse berry]

I CALLED IT

[nocturne flax]

Goodbye my previous buff 😭

we'll see

I got bug hunter ptsd

[silk yarrow]

0.1s reload speed

0.01 damage increase

[broken scarab]

Ok, two changes. The third doesn’t affect gameplay

[livid heath]

WHAT

[coarse berry]

anyone have a quick way to induce coma 'til tomorrow

[silk yarrow]

1.01 precision multiplier

[daring pilot]

Ooohhh sounds like a sight change

possible

[prisma zodiac]

[coarse berry]

that would affect gameplay

[prisma zodiac]

calle oh god

[coarse berry]

wait did they hel the bullpup.

is the third non-gameplay change the name.

[daring pilot]

Oh boy

Is it actually

That honestly is cool

[broken scarab]

Haha, HEL bullpop would be cool

[coarse berry]

oh thank god

[prisma zodiac]

bullpup
dmg set to 0
mag size decreased to -1
name changed to "dont pick this bullpup"

[nocturne flax]

OH HELLNAW

[prisma zodiac]

[coarse berry]

hel bullpup would be pretty odd considering it's a precision weapon

[broken scarab]

Yea

[daring pilot]

still thinking it might be a sight change

To thermals mayhaps

[coarse berry]

I hope not, bullpup has a pretty nice sight

[broken scarab]

If I was in charge of balance it would be best weapon. Loved them since Steyer Aug in Die Hard

[coarse berry]

god if only

[deft kiln]

This is exciting

[coarse berry]

it basically is an AUG Para

[daring pilot]

bullpup RoF increase :3

[broken scarab]

(I’m not in charge of balance)

[coarse berry]

2000rpm.

same mag size

[silk yarrow]

stick mags are so ugly

[coarse berry]

poo take

[broken scarab]

frrrrrrtttttt. Ammo gone

[coarse berry]

stick mags are a thing of beauty

[nocturne flax]

I know it might be a little too far of a question

[coarse berry]

wait a minute. im onto something

[broken scarab]

Need to drive car now, sleep tight. See you all tomorrow.

[silk yarrow]

pmags are just aesthetically way more pleasing

[nocturne flax]

see you tomorrow 🫂

[coarse berry]

they changed the damage to be higher and reload, and the third non-gameplay change is a magazine change

to indicate the bullpup now shoots a higher caliber

ala what they did to the Arbalist

[daring pilot]

Gnight calle

[prisma zodiac]

that arbalist change was soo good

[nocturne flax]

yep

[prisma zodiac]

gn calle

[coarse berry]

actually changing the casings to be bigger to indicate bigger caliber was a good touch

didn't expect that

[deft kiln]

Can you be balance boy master of balance

[daring pilot]

Inb4 bullpup 3rd change is pdw nerf

[coarse berry]

bullpup 3rd change: replaced with long-barreled PDW

[daring pilot]

No stop

[coarse berry]

unlimited power

[nocturne flax]

Things i wanna see:
carabine nerf
smg buff
scattergun removed

[daring pilot]

Still pulling for hel spear

[coarse berry]

scattergun pellet count doubled

[daring pilot]

No don’t you dare

I want my scattergun

[tough badger]

They never re-add Scattergun they just remove it a second time

[coarse berry]

it's in the menu but just greyed out

[mortal portal]

They just add half the scattergun, the other half gets released in R8

[daring pilot]

literally like my favorite gun man

[coarse berry]

Add scattergun as an underbarrel attachment for carbine

[daring pilot]

that’s the bullpup buff

Fires all 40 rounds at once

[mortal portal]

Auto HEL scattergun

[daring pilot]

40 round burst

[tough badger]

I love the scattergun, shrapnel cannon-ass block of metal

[daring pilot]

big chunky delete button

[tough badger]

Dumbest gun they've ever made and I use that as a term of endearment

"what if there was a gun that vaporized anything within 3 meters of you"

[silk yarrow]

it's be funny because only the 3 other players in the lobby can use it

[daring pilot]

I love it so much man

silly nuke on a stick

[silk yarrow]

it's a great troll weapon if you don't know how to use it on moms

forced full birth and staggering mom away

[daring pilot]

I just realized how troll it will be if SMG gets the hel

Because then both SMGs will abbreviate to HSMG

[silk yarrow]

already is

[tough badger]

but what if the heavy gets hel so we have smg and hhsmg

[coarse berry]

heavy smg getting hel would be interesting

[tough badger]

i feel like it's gotta be a special because we have more primary hel weapons than specials now

[coarse berry]

i originally thought maybe high cal

but that would just be a hel-rifle lite

[tough badger]

obviously it doesn't actually need to be a special but it would make sense for them to do one

[coarse berry]

HAR is a fair bet

Arbalist maybe

the sniper if they wanted to have more GTFO collat montages on youtube

[tough badger]

i think they're pretty happy with how the last round of machine gun changes went but i could be wrong

definitely still also think hel scattergun could be on the table and hoo boy would i be going nuts testing that

[coarse berry]

Hel scattergun would be diabolical

I want that

[tough badger]

they'd have to lower the damage again... right...?

[coarse berry]

negative

as-is

[tough badger]

[coarse berry]

Would make for some interesting potential giant lineups

[tough badger]

look all I'm saying is you wouldn't hear me complaining...

[coarse berry]

competing with sniper better

[silk yarrow]

they should make it pen

best baby killer

and crashing your game

[tough badger]

on release it "had" pen, but the mechanic was not working properly and got removed in the nerfs

which is part of why i think it might be the hel option, since it seems like they originally intended it to be anyway

or at least tried to make it one at some point during testing

and hey, who doesn't want to carpet bomb waves of enemies

[cold merlin]

non-ergonomic drum magazine from the concept art 🙏

[coarse berry]

yuck

the drumg mags on guns that don't fit look uggo

like the AR/Burst rifle

[cold merlin]

consider how one holds the bullpup

and then consider https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/gtfo_gamepedia_en/images/e/e8/BullpupPromo.png

[coarse berry]

godd imagine trying to get your hand around that thing they called a foregrip

[cold merlin]

imagine trying to actually reload it

[coarse berry]

also like that it just has an EOTech on it

[cold merlin]

Anywho, I have two predictions for the scattergun tomorrow - only one of which is likely to end up happening.

1. BUFF - The Drei in the name 'Drekker INEX Drei Scattergun' shall be made less misleading, by increasing the magazine size of the scattergun from zwei to drei.
2. NERF - The bullet cost of the scattergun will be increased/decreased such that the total ammunition capacity of the scattergun will no longer be evenly divisible by the magazine size - thereby eliminating the final example of a non-mildly-annoying combination of magazine size and reserve ammo in GTFO (following the nerf to the sniper rifle in ALT://R4 where it went from 3/9 to 3/10) edit: nvm fake news, the high-cal pistol has a non-infuriating ammo count (as of ALT://R5)

[pliant pasture]

god i hope they clean up weird rounding things like that, i am not a wiki gal but i am always a fan of clean/round numbers

[fossil jetty]

Hel prefix on the spear. Allow it to actually pierce multiple enemies like how it was intended when the spear became an option

[pliant pasture]

OG spear is funny and should be brought back

[brittle vortex]

looks kinda like the bullpup kit for the CZ Scorpion

[cold merlin]

inb4 they add HEL to the other spear-adjacent weapon instead of the drillhead

[coarse berry]

when 100% ammo consists of a half-full mag your character refuses to fill up

[half hornet]

45 / 225
30 / 60
6 / 30

[cold merlin]

wait which weapons are those

[half hornet]

Not from this game

[daring pilot]

I thought hi cal was 6/30

[cold merlin]

I think I may have missed a minor bullet cost buff that the high-cal pistol may or may not have gained at some point 😅

wiki has been amended 🙏

[coarse berry]

high cal is

[narrow gulch]

are there any good levels for finding 2 regular scouts in the same room early on

I need to cook

[hexed vapor]

R7D1

[daring pilot]

I mean there’s always modded things for that, but yeah R7D1 for vanilla

It’s like 0-6 iirc

Can be anywhere in that range

[narrow gulch]

its gotta be vanilla for the clip tbh

[daring pilot]

All in one room

[narrow gulch]

makes it better

[astral ferry]

double scout hit??

[hexed vapor]

Main is guaranteed 2 as well.

[daring pilot]

Yeah good luck with the framerate man

🫡

[narrow gulch]

r7d1 sounds good, thank you

[daring pilot]

If you don’t mind getting a bit further into a level though, R6C1 is really good for it

[narrow gulch]

thats a day away

but yeah that is a good one

[daring pilot]

More like 12 ish hours

But yeah

oh and that one fucked up room in R6DX with all the bigs and scouts and the charger scout

That one is actually right near the beginning

[cold merlin]

Looks like it was an undocumented change from ALT://R5

[daring pilot]

ohhh wait i think it was part of the reload bug fix

[cold merlin]

they changed the bullet cost from 7.7 to 7.6

[coarse berry]

they fixed the reloading bug

which gave the high cal the extra round they intended it to have

[cold merlin]

(I just checked the actual source for the specific weapon stats)

interestingly, that undocumented bullet cost change was the only change to the previously-available weapons in ALT://R5

[obtuse surge]

enjoy your final moments before the hel scattergun makes its appearance

[coarse berry]

the end is nigh

[narrow gulch]

got it

thank you for your assistance chatters

[pliant pasture]

has the cooking been successfully cooked?

[atomic escarp]

it spawned cap of flyers

[narrow gulch]

it has #gtfo-media message

[nocturne flax]

I wonder what 10cc gonna do after unity's new monetization plan

That ceo if messing up pretty badly

[hallow lark]

HAHAHA… please don’t remind me of that Neo Scout

[mortal portal]

We all casually uninstall the game on December 31st and reinstall it on January 2024

GTFO Server Slam™️

[tough badger]

Unity already walked that part back because their corporate side is a raging dumpster fire

Literally run by the guy who said charging players per bullet was a good idea at EA

[dry dagger]

@narrow gulch Wait so is the hammer collat just a possible but rare thing in the game?

[narrow gulch]

you can do it fairly consistently

the conditions to get it make it kinda rare tho yea

and it gets harder and harder the more elevation change there is, and its really hard on moving enemies fsr

[nocturne flax]

Yeah i read it was an ex EA CEO

I dunno why they hired that dude

According to reddit that man just destroy the stock everytime he was in charge

Probably benefited some.other areas of the business

[tough badger]

probably squeezes a few bucks out for some annoying shareholders then golden parachutes away

[deft kiln]

If you know what you are looking for there is many opportunities to hit it

[coarse berry]

nothing cause unity will crash and burn probably

[nocturne flax]

Its good that their wrapping up gtfo then

We gun get gtfo on the unreal engine!

[frail horizon]

photorealistic nightmare fuel would be cool as hell

[dry dagger]

gtfo on frostbite engine or bust

[nocturne flax]

10cc its time to invest in your proprietary engine

[livid heath]

Oh no

Dragons have been turned into a overwatch character

[nocturne flax]

Only real ones know

[deft kiln]

I wonder where that art work is from 🤔

[nocturne flax]

I mean yall asking for pfp changes

[deft kiln]

I am gonna set up a discord bot

[nocturne flax]

I do it

[deft kiln]

That will join this server every hour

And ping you

[nocturne flax]

And y'all acting surprise

I change my pfp more than we get rundowns

[deft kiln]

Based tbh

[nocturne flax]

I keep you on your toes

[deft kiln]

I liked the tree

I think we could have seen the best of you on the tree

[nocturne flax]

Lemme see if its still on media

#gtfo-media message

[nocturne flax]

You gotta thank the polish people that make some good memes

[deft kiln]

Sleep well my gtfo players

There will be candy and RESET REQUESTS tomorrow

[narrow gulch]

I cant wait to get PINK

though unfortunately the santonian pallet kinda slaps so I might not even use it like I planned

[nocturne flax]

Reset request

We got to do it like a pre order

So we can get our cosmetics early

[coarse berry]

think they'll bring back the old r6 palettes?

was that where pink was from

[narrow gulch]

ye

[dry dagger]

Lugubrious

[wary olive]

Lugubrious 👁️ 👄 👁️

[dry dagger]

Can you not actually get it if you didn't get in R6?

[wary olive]

Only vets have it...

[coarse berry]

if they do, im excited for Destination

the grey / red trim

[dry dagger]

I remember how accomplished I felt when I finally beat the extension.

[prisma zodiac]

R6, the only time drip was a pseudo showcase for experience

until it no longer was

[wary olive]

Lugubrious 👁️ 👄 👁️

[prisma zodiac]

Lugubrious 👁️ 👄 👁️

[coarse berry]

absolute BS they stopped doing it imo

other than rundown helmets, but they're reskinning those too

[prisma zodiac]

wdym they stopped doing it :0?

Honestly reskinning the rundown helmets was a sad choice ;-;

[wary olive]

Bring back Michelin man skin

[coarse berry]

stopped doing cosmetic rewards for actual accomplishments

[wary olive]

⛄

[prisma zodiac]

Imagine if we got some extremely unique cosmetics for each rundown clear

[coarse berry]

that'd be nice, definitely one of a kind

[tough atlas]

Seems like the girl from Undead Unluck?

[tough atlas]

I'd like something that ain't a mask tbh

I think the game needs more palettes

There are two which are basically the same

[prisma zodiac]

Imagine instead of 1 pallete and 6 helmets it was 1 piece each for 2 sets total

so you get like a sick total set if you complete them all

[balmy robin]

That would have been sick

[nocturne flax]

R8 RELEASES IN 3 HOURS GUYS!

[hallow lark]

Correction: Alt-R6

[nocturne flax]

RUNDOWN 8 BABYYY

Less goo

[olive shoal]

Crackhead copium

[nocturne flax]

Finna be a movie

[olive shoal]

r8 is just a telltale game

[hallow lark]

SOUNDLESS MADNESS WHOOO

[olive shoal]

Don’t give schaeffer the memory stick -> he will remember that

[lilac tinsel]

[west crow]

The crimeboss rockay city Dollar Dragon Gold Cup free update is about to drop

[ripe void]

hel auto sentry bruh

[subtle vault]

New voice lines, they finally did it

[kind latch]

did they add new cosmetics

@broken scarab care to comment if true?

[indigo flame]

they did

i can see all the new ones

[kind latch]

whats the new drip

wait u can see?

how

[rare sleet]

True

[indigo flame]

could i show the show all of them in this chat if i added a spoiler?

[fallow wasp]

Holy shit spear can now run

[kind latch]

give him the pass i wanna see the drip

[rare sleet]

Yeah my dude, just add the spoiler

[indigo flame]

ok new drip on the way

cant post pics noooooo

[cold merlin]

Put them in #wiki-chat (it'll be useful later on)

[fallow wasp]

Spear will finally rise up to its rightful place

[vestal lance]

rip A1 Schaeffer ramble

[bold widget]

Can anyone test how bad hel revolver reload speed is now

[real moss]

It's still shit actually, you run but slower, barely faster than walking

So they buffed but did not dared to go all the way

[broken scarab]

"Dared" 🙂

[vestal lance]

Seems like player voicelines are a bit scuffed none of the characters reacted to picking up the matter wave projector in A1 or getting teleported

[fallow wasp]

I can dig any buff to spear and bullpup

[subtle vault]

https://tenor.com/view/crying-emoji-dies-gif-21956120

[fallow wasp]

My guilty pleasure weapons

[tough atlas]

Schaeffer isn't speaking for R6A1?

He used to have a voiceline before the matter wave thingy

[vestal lance]

Yeah the ramble is gone, no more waiting 3mins at the door every run

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[tough atlas]

That's nice on my end

but I dont know if it's intended or not?

[vestal lance]

Has to be intended as if the ramble alone was gone the scan length would still be 2mins

but its a quick scan at the door now

[real moss]

No time to record new voicelines

[subtle vault]

bug in A1 already. "Complete the Bioscan sequnce to deactivate Alarm" The alram is already off lol

[balmy robin]

This was already present in OG, as far as I can recall

[prisma zodiac]

did someone pull one of the side zone doors in the beginning?

[bold widget]

Nice

[subtle vault]

Its just me and bots

rip lock melter, they didn't get the voice line treatment

[rare sleet]

lock melter dont deserve SHIT

[subtle vault]

damn

[tough atlas]

I still hate bullpup

[sterile acorn]

Hows the splattergun, worse?

[indigo flame]

unchanged

[prisma zodiac]

"unchanged" ?

[tough atlas]

You triggered the Darkeva card

prepare for the lecture 😄

btw in desert of AX now everything's chromed

from my pov

[half hornet]

Sounds like a graphics bug. Screenshots?

[wild wyvern]

R6B1 diminished spawning a full wave is crazy 💀

[vestal lance]

Yeah everything is shiny af

[wild wyvern]

reduced hipfire radius on the gun with the biggest hipfire radius in the game

unchanged

[prisma zodiac]

logic

[indigo flame]

it didnt apply to my knowledge

[olive shoal]

friends

why is r6ax an a tier

[broken scarab]

Because reasons

[olive shoal]

compared to r6b1 and r6a1 its a little much i feel lmao

[wild wyvern]

not gonna stop me from solo'ing it

[olive shoal]

ofc

[kind swan]

You gonna duo R6D3 i imagine

[olive shoal]

probs

[knotty barn]

well it seems the falling through the floor bug is back. Or was it never fixed? xD

[half hornet]

People complained that it was too easy, probably. So they just... Pushed it down the tiers.

Not it fits perfectly.

For what it's worth DX didn't feel like a D either

[olive shoal]

it didnt

that one i agree with

but does r6d1 really feel like a d tier?

dx could stay in d tier imo

[prisma zodiac]

is DX that much easier than other D tier mains?

or are you just pushing optional difficulties into it?

[winter wharf]

i love the optional objectives in d1 and d4

[prisma zodiac]

the ending is obviously the only real difficult part

[half hornet]

It felt notably short and the final bit is not that bad

[prisma zodiac]

R1D1, R2D1, R2D2, R3D1, R4D1 main, R4D2 main :>
R5D are obviously tougher

also R6D1 was? is? definetly easier than it

[half hornet]

Level doesn't take 80 minites and doesn't throw 3 tanks my way? Not a D.

[olive shoal]

i wish levels took 2 hiurs

[tough atlas]

I dont know since I didnt reach that yet but maybe they nerfed R6DX?

To be fair AX doesn't really feel easier than B1 at all

although B1 is still very easy

[prisma zodiac]

honestly b1 is like r2b-tiers no?

[tough atlas]

As in how hard it is? perhaps

I ask this all the time but

[hexed vapor]

PDW damage nerf instead of buffing literally any other auto

insane.

[tough atlas]

I think it depends on how you consider difficulty and checkpoints

because r6b1 having 2 checkpoints probably makes it easier than, say r2b2?

[hexed vapor]

Oh nvm, big buffs

[prisma zodiac]

i do not care about checkpoints for difficulty

a level isnt balanced around checkpoints

[tough atlas]

Then by your PoV you can consider it similar, yes

[nocturne flax]

C1 still got stealth scans 😭

[hexed vapor]

Assault rifle not buffed 🤮

[indigo flame]

dont need it in my opinion

[nocturne flax]

Yep

[prisma zodiac]

it definetly would like and deserve one

[hexed vapor]

All auto mains are bad, tho.

PDW might even be bad now.

[prisma zodiac]

pf

[nocturne flax]

I dont think 0.10 less damage its gonna go that hard

Kekw

[hexed vapor]

Where datablock

[nocturne flax]

Wiki

Channel

[plain saddle]

@hexed vapor #wiki-chat message

[prisma zodiac]

wiki chat send it all already i think ye

litteraly do math now

[plain saddle]

Oh ye of little faith, I have already obtained the sacred texts

The "big winner" is heavy SMG, which became... drumroll old PDW

[indigo flame]

nice

[half hornet]

Oh shit, they brought back the super high cal.

10c love fun after all

[hexed vapor]

High cal metagame is back bb.

[last gust]

have they done something with the min range, or is it legit 30 damage r7 high cal?

[indigo flame]

it is 30 dmg again

[vestal lance]

https://i.imgur.com/EILixpa.png

F for the Tool & Ammo in that box

[last gust]

ahto 4shotted a giant and needed a pistol shot to finish it off, but I've been 1tapping shooters, so...

screw it testing again

[prisma zodiac]

min range?

if he shot once from 9 meters its

[last gust]

yeah I wasn't entirely paying attention

[indigo flame]

thought it was 8?

[last gust]

it was 8

[prisma zodiac]

thats why 9

[indigo flame]

yes got it

misunderstood

[last gust]

but 30 damage high cal and straight-shooting pump shotty is huge

[hexed vapor]

CS survived, RIP Hel Gun.

[last gust]

I've only used bullpup among the auto mains

...they shoulda left the "long reload" descriptor on it

does seem a fair bit more potent, but I don't use it much so I wouldn't know

[half hornet]

They finally promoted it from SMG mimicking a rifle to an actual rifle

[last gust]

also it didn't get a cancel

[half hornet]

Fine by me

[last gust]

number literally ticks up at the exact same time as it becomes fireable again

not so fine when the natural reload is still ass

in other news, I think hel revo's cancel is slightly slower, but still completely fine imo

[last gust]

early days, but I don't think I can put it down to temporary skill issue anymore

the fire rate nerf seems really rough

[olive shoal]

trust

i think hel gun can still work

give me a few days

[west crow]

coping

it's smg meta

[olive shoal]

ITS NOT COPING

[west crow]

get used to the new future

[last gust]

like, 10cc watched the community collectively shrug off the previous chargeup nerf and said "we will bring it into line with just chargeup nerfs no matter what it takes"

[pulsar zodiac]

use pistol
0 brain activity

[last gust]

pistol is pretty cracked now yeah

[half hornet]

Any new breakpoints or what?

[last gust]

r5 pistol back at the least it feels like

[pulsar zodiac]

R5 pistol gaming

[half hornet]

It was just... Fine. Not insane, not horribly underpowered like Bullpup. Just kinda there.

[last gust]

main thing is you get your 1+2 much further out

[half hornet]

About time though, the 6 meters range on a pistol felt kinda arbitrary. Same range efficiency as shotguns.

Feels disrespectful for handguns.

[plain saddle]

Hammer takes 1.28 seconds of charging to kill strikers with headshot, spear takes 1.186 seconds, you get to save a whole 0.094 seconds!!!!!!!! Spear must be broken!!

[last gust]

true, can't believe they allowed a semi main to languish in mediocrity for so long

[cold merlin]

base damage difference between assault rifle and bullpup is pretty much negligible now

[half hornet]

How much damage on giant occi

[cold merlin]

(still in the process of updating the infoboxes)

[plain saddle]

78.75

[half hornet]

Oh snap

[last gust]

the much-hyped running charge is a bit of a letdown though

[half hornet]

Whole +10 damage

Bhahaha

They literally did what I was asking for

The +13% headshot damage turned into +31%

[plain saddle]

The prisoners just sticky taped a knife onto their spear to give it an extra 10 damage from behind

[half hornet]

Yep, spear is a proper giant killer now. The niche has been occupied.

I'm so fucking happy.

[tough badger]

i was a bit worried when i noticed the sprinting was still slow, glad the prec multiplier buff actually did something too

[hexed vapor]

It's just the perfect weapon, only you can shoot less times per second.

[hallow lark]

Holy shit! We can RUN with the spears now?!

[tough badger]

kind of
it's still pretty slow

[hallow lark]

That’s reasonable. They’re long and could be heavy

[tough badger]

but you don't automatically get hit by every lick now

[half hornet]

Others melees get +70% sprint speed, spear gets like 30

Still, better than nothing.

[tough badger]

more prec damage makes it feel a little more worth

[hexed vapor]

Should be less affected by stam too, p sure.

[narrow gulch]

spears probably pretty good now right

it got occi?

[hallow lark]

Wait, more prec damage?

[narrow gulch]

its not gonna be better than hammer but it sounds like it has a place now

[tough badger]

yeah that's probably it
which is fine, so long as I don't feel like I'm trolling when I pick it

[narrow gulch]

dw pdw got buffed in range

it retained 2 + 5 and gained 3 + 3

[livid heath]

Wait pdw got nerfed?

I hardly felt anything

[narrow gulch]

pdw is actually cqc auto now I think

[livid heath]

Has it always been lol

[hexed vapor]

Pistol moment.

[livid heath]

A smol dmg nerf aint gonna do nothing rlly

[narrow gulch]

if they gave it more ammo

its almost a buff

but I dont think they did

after range though its just a straight nerf

fuck I gotta stop nerding out and go to class

[hexed vapor]

Same, see you in 5-6 hours 💀

[livid heath]

So pdw is buffed on range?

But nerfed on dmg and reload

[hexed vapor]

It's a breakpoint thing p sure.

[livid heath]

Huh

[hexed vapor]

Its range is the same, but at medium distances it loses just enough damage to gain a 6-shot.

[tough badger]

nothing in the notes about range so i assume it was tested?

[hexed vapor]

Instead of the usual 7-shot.

[tough badger]

huh

[livid heath]

Pdw having a range is kinda broken ngl

[prisma zodiac]

my man

[livid heath]

Hey im doing my teams work of tryna pick off targets too yknow

[hexed vapor]

W8, 3+3 is CQC.

That's even better actually.

[livid heath]

Fr

[deft kiln]

So why kill hel gun?

[livid heath]

Still to powerful i guess

But this is the “last” nerf

[hexed vapor]

Tbf, it was still the strongest weapon in the game.

It's still top tier, but CS is better (probably).

[deft kiln]

Yeah but a better tag Is 14dmg

[prisma zodiac]

revolver but with charge up and pen

wow

[livid heath]

Kek

[deft kiln]

Yup