gtfo-spoiler-chat

[tough atlas]

Somehow I take that as a compliment 😄

[narrow gulch]

get a voice changer and start cheating obv

[coarse berry]

negative rizz

[tough atlas]

This is like that time when people kept saying "ratio" and I had no idea what they were talking about

[livid heath]

Beepo is cute but too quiet

They left

Or they saw the name and thought ima let them go bed

[deft kiln]

Western Europe is dead region I guess

Gtfo is almost over

[livid heath]

When GTFO 2

[tough atlas]

To be fair I posted even in Asia at some point...

[livid heath]

I joined when u posted in asia

[tough atlas]

What's rizz

[tough atlas]

did you?

[coarse berry]

some term for like

game

[livid heath]

I always look for u on lfg

[coarse berry]

how do you describe it fuck

[plush basin]

The ability to pull?

[livid heath]

The ability to attract all sort of ppls

Charisma tbh

[coarse berry]

yeah

[narrow gulch]

all of those but its a shitpost term

[livid heath]

Basically to get some bitches

[narrow gulch]

there we go

[livid heath]

Brain wave is linked

My night is perfect

Oh cmon now that was a good joke

Didn’t mean to kill this chat

[tough badger]

yea literally the ris from charisma but spelled rizz as far as i understand it

[livid heath]

Yes sir

[tough badger]

Gotta work hard to keep up with the kids

[livid heath]

Heh

[real moss]

it's something like that yeah

[half hornet]

R5B1 is fuckin' loooooooooooong

[pliant pasture]

yup

[half hornet]

Contender for longest map or are there worse offenders?

[tough badger]

c2 pretty long

d1 very long

[half hornet]

on a plus side only 1 PE left... Somewhere out there... Hiding... Waiting...

[tough badger]

if it's c2 i would be the opposite of confident doing that with bots

[narrow gulch]

d1 was the longest for me in r5

[atomic escarp]

the only issue with that is the ovl 2 tanks and the rest can be managed

[tough badger]

did they nerf overload that much or are bots way better at chargers than i give them credit for?

[atomic escarp]

if they get in melee range its gg keep em at bay and it'll be fine

[pliant pasture]

what guns? cause chargers followed by hybrids, then keeping them safe from tanks is a tall order

[tough badger]

i also wouldn't assume bots are great at dealing with moms

but i also haven't tried so feel free to correct me

[pliant pasture]

ohhh right the ThunderDome, not the B3underDome

[atomic escarp]

it depends if babies are at a distance bots gon pop em off easily but after that u gon have to handle the births yourself otherwise bots get chocked and will try to melee the babies

[atomic escarp]

hel rev lmg

[narrow gulch]

ovl only has 1 tank now

unelss you mean the secondary one

[tough atlas]

R5D1 felt like it had a lot of padding tbh

[coarse berry]

you need a key for this zone to get the key for the other zone

yeah

[tough atlas]

zone needs key which is behind that alarm door which needs key which needs...

yeah

I feel like it would have made its point even without those extra alarms tbh

[coarse berry]

me and my friends were surprised to open the apex door and see nothing behind it

Then we opened the fucking reactor zone door.

[tough atlas]

heh

surprise tank+bbcs

Nearly killed my attempt on og first time

[narrow gulch]

I love scream doors

[errant vigil]

It was originally the end of R5

[narrow gulch]

great game design

[errant vigil]

So they made it long

[tough atlas]

I think they were planning r5e1 beforehand tbh

[errant vigil]

nope

[tough atlas]

you sure?

[tough badger]

It really is an absurdly padded main tho
And tbh I think the double respawn zones don't add much to secondary either

[tough atlas]

I just feel that this game sometimes OVERUSES alarms

[narrow gulch]

replace the cell zone with one of the later ones and delete secondary

[coarse berry]

on our 2nd run we opened secondary to see and just went "nope."

[tough badger]

Correct. If tons of alarms isn't the point of the level you don't need 5+

R4D2 and R5C3 actually emphasize the alarms instead of them just being there for the sake of it

[coarse berry]

they definitely were

[tough badger]

You can tell r5d1 was padding with alarms because half of them aren't even hard lmao

[errant vigil]

The alarm door to get key for BC Scan used to be all chargers on release R5

[tough badger]

Wait it's mixed now? Bruh

[errant vigil]

That's a buff tho

They nerfed it in OG R5 to just regular smalls

Also used to be cluster instead of teamscans, was a bit more hectic

[tough badger]

The S Cluster on the apex door? That never stopped being a cluster

They only changed the name, not the scan behavior iirc

[errant vigil]

Not talking about that

Alarm to get the key to that door

[tough badger]

so not the bc scan

yeah that one was easy in general by my memory

mb for reading your original message wrong

[tawdry geode]

In R5D1 do you need to go to that terminal zone that opens after doing secondary for it to complete ?

[errant vigil]

The zone with the Pmom in it?

[tawdry geode]

On the way to extract

[errant vigil]

No, that opens from just doing Main and it has lore and resources

[coarse berry]

no it just has a terminal with a log

wait that level has a big momma?

[tawdry geode]

Sweet and you don’t need it for main? Level is super tough for me

And yes

[coarse berry]

trip mining the tank in the reactor room can make life easier

[errant vigil]

Nah no cheese needed

[tawdry geode]

Appreciate the help y’all. Hopefully tomorrow I can finally get the W

[tough badger]

it is a painful level

[coarse berry]

thats not cheese it's being smart and using 100% tools for one miniboss

[errant vigil]

It trivializes the fight just like Permafoam does to alarms

[coarse berry]

using tools smartly =/= cheese

[errant vigil]

so true king

[coarse berry]

You doing something I don't like >:( grr

[tough badger]

incorrect, cfoam launcher sprays cheese whiz

foaming doors is kinda what it's in the game for tho, it does trivialize alarms but idk if I'd call it cheese

fellas is it cheesing to use items for their intended gameplay purpose

(mine dumping a tank is definitely cheese but counterpoint: it is also very funny)

[coarse berry]

IMO if it was that cheesy they'd actively be working to fix it

and they aren't

[errant vigil]

They've put Giant chargers to eat mines on scream doors with tank to prevent it so

[coarse berry]

there is no way thats their idea of a fix

like 5D1?

[errant vigil]

R5C2

R5E1

The one that could counter that would be R6D3

was small shadows

[late bloom]

you can place mines at a hight there bbcs will not trigger but tank will

[kind swan]

for reference. modded content isn't allowed in the official server

[chrome rivet]

Bro I do not want to play most of the R5 levels ever again. This rundown was more painful and stressful than any other mission. Could only imagine the OG.

[kind swan]

as far as I was told. only R5E1 is basically the same

[livid heath]

R5D1 after secondary

[neat sluice]

sounds like a skill issue

[neat sluice]

R5E1 = best level in the entire game

[velvet flower]

Earlier a R5E1 run, pulled class V, teammates downed. Managed to kite and make all the way back to spawn terminal w/o waking tank and mothers. I feel lucky today.

[livid heath]

My reaction to that information:

[west crow]

They should remove assist kill markers so people stop falling into the misconception that they're doing anything with the bullpup

[brisk wraith]

Facts

[half hornet]

Hey! BP is a perfectly fine weapon with cute DPS. Its only issue is taking long vacations between hard work.
...
That reminds me of somebody... Huh.

[livid heath]

not that

the beautiful reload animation

[olive shoal]

good take from beep

as always

[tough badger]

for alt r6 i think scattergun should be changed to have a clip size of 1, instantly kill everything on your screen when fired, and crash your game

[half hornet]

I'm more concerned why a gun that only holds 2 shells has a magazine

At this point just load it manually

Change reloading animation from switching mags to just pulling some lever

[velvet linden]

big shells

[half hornet]

Nah, design of scatter gun doesn't make no sense

I think it was either a proto HEL shotgun or some AA12 wannabe

Then they suddenly wanted a super boomstick, but didn't wanted to bother with a custom model so they just repurposed the scatter

[velvet linden]

The old stats imply that they wanted a “super boomstick” from the beginning

[half hornet]

Ah, fellow auto correcter...

I don't know then. The gun makes no sense to me.

[velvet linden]

It trolls me every time

[half hornet]

2 shells are not worth a whole magazine

[livid heath]

YES

one shot tanks and P-mom is gord

[half hornet]

And frankly the barrel isn't even that fat either

Then again I don't remember how it looked like, exactly

[kind swan]

Grammar Nazi?

Nvm I read back and I see it nown

[kind swan]

While Bullets/Shells can be big and fill up a mag. Yeah. 2 is absurd with how big the mag is

[atomic escarp]

so full bore should have a magazine of 2? instead of reloading one each?

[olive shoal]

Big shells with a lot of stuff going on

[livid heath]

@deft kiln what happens when these MFs are in GTFO

[deft kiln]

We shoot it

The answer is always shoot it

[livid heath]

The last one can inflict infection causing dead bodies to become zombies

[deft kiln]

You just shoot it

[pliant pasture]

shoot those too

[deft kiln]

Or we stand around and melee it

Get a sick double melee headshot

[livid heath]

The first 2 are snatchers but becomes Tyrone when u shoot them

[livid heath]

No headshot for first 2 tho sadly

[deft kiln]

Makes sense

[livid heath]

They dont have tounges

Thats a relief

But they have the jaw size extending to their necks

Can fit 3 dudes in there

[pliant pasture]

splease

thisi s spoiler

not nsfw

[livid heath]

Oh no

I mean the size

[livid heath]

But they look so cool to fit in GTFO am i rite?

[pliant pasture]

first two are a bit too muscle monster and not buble horror imo

but the third one is prertty close to the target

[livid heath]

Huh

Looks like the divider from dead space

Which is on par what ive sent today on general

Dw

[pliant pasture]

gotcha gotcha

[livid heath]

Can catch me lackin yo

[pliant pasture]

nah, when i play Dauda, i always dodge

[livid heath]

@pliant pasture what bout this MF

Sujbject 098: “Moth Man”

[deft kiln]

3/10

[pliant pasture]

no, you don't gotts look for his face at all

[deft kiln]

P kraken looks pretty bad

[livid heath]

Runs at you and puke acid

Also blocks all incoming bullets with wings

[pliant pasture]

also, gotta be skin color not blood and grey

a flyer that deals infection and has invulnerable spots could be find

[livid heath]

Well it is from a lab chamber

[pliant pasture]

but this uy is too angy

[livid heath]

Follow in the story for this guy took an massive reactor explosion and still lived with one wing gone

And we finally kill it at the roof top

[half hornet]

What is this, Hollywood

[livid heath]

Yea kinda

MF build different

[livid heath]

But still

Aint it cool to see an enemy that has its arms up to block the incoming bullets right?

[half hornet]

No... No, not really.

[livid heath]

Hmmm

[half hornet]

Low key tired of disrespect for firearms in movies and shows

[livid heath]

Tried to impress u

[half hornet]

Random animals just shrugging of machine guns because... Skin too thick I guess?

Like come on

[livid heath]

Well

Even so

You do deal dmgs to tanks or mother even if not on the growths

[kind swan]

I will fire over 50 rounds from a small mag of this M16 continuously

I won't even chamber the rounds in when I reload

[livid heath]

Should beg a differ in any reaction to bullets right?

Oh i know

How about an anomaly typed environment with a an unkillable enemy

Making it have to be sneak through

Im having major vibes from metro exodus rn

[pliant pasture]

sleeping pablo can exist, do it

[livid heath]

Nah

Pablo isn’t fun

Having some major vibes of this enemy to literally one shot you or shoot you off to another random zone/dimension

[half hornet]

I don't know, I don't think devs can pull anything interesting at this point

Snatcher really was their magnus opus

[livid heath]

Hmm

[livid heath]

Any other idea thats cookin in your head?

[half hornet]

Support sleepers

[livid heath]

Which are?

[half hornet]

Someone who doesn't fight but just contributes assistance instead

[livid heath]

Healers or in general just buffs the horde?

[half hornet]

Healers, damage reductors, damage increasers

[livid heath]

That would mean an over haul to prisoners weapons

[half hornet]

No, not really

Ever played warframe?

[livid heath]

To newbies that would be a nightmare

[livid heath]

Eximus

Units

[half hornet]

I was more thinking of ancient healer

[livid heath]

Well

It kinda sucks even for warfare ngl

Old disruptor was a whole diff breed

One shots you

[half hornet]

Still, he's an mvp until he dies

[livid heath]

I was thinking more of hives if thats on ur mind

Like burn down or destroy a whole hive

[deft kiln]

#gtfo-spoiler-chat message best message In This server to date

[livid heath]

They would actively sent out waves till their last

And you would literally blow up or burn their hive down

[livid heath]

How so?

[pliant pasture]

we peaked

[livid heath]

How high is this peak

[half hornet]

We could use a true melee unit I guess

Like chargers, but no tongues and creepier

Stalkers from dead space 2 style

Rushes in, gets a jab in, runs away

[coarse berry]

If chargers actually charged

[livid heath]

Get this MF

[half hornet]

Like that, yes

But very fast

[livid heath]

Automatic spawns out zombies

I didn’t say it was slow

[coarse berry]

It would be v cool if big chargers could flat out knock you on your ass

[nocturne flax]

imagina 4 arm sleeper from the pre developmen era

[half hornet]

He's still canon btw

[livid heath]

Cloakers from pay day 2 🤝

[nocturne flax]

in a log perhaps

hes still canon

[half hornet]

Yep

[livid heath]

Snatchers if they didn’t snatch you

[nocturne flax]

what

[livid heath]

In that game

[half hornet]

Or we could try doing something else with fliers

A flying enemy that.... Just shoots at you.

[livid heath]

This MF took 27 shotgun shots to the face

[nocturne flax]

just like i told people in r6

[livid heath]

And 4 mags from 4 dudes of assault rifles

[nocturne flax]

its just a flying shooter

they dont even put them on scenarios that makes them shine

[coarse berry]

Give fliers the ability to just straight up eat you

With their weird mouth eye

[livid heath]

What would u want em to do tho

Straight out lift u?

I mean not a bad idea i guess

[nocturne flax]

anything thats not shooting

[half hornet]

Dear god no, I'm not trusting this game to handle that

[nocturne flax]

where?

the amount of invisible walls

its stagering

[half hornet]

Stealing from warframe again - the parasites that just attach to your face

[nocturne flax]

you gonna get yourself bugged like

[coarse berry]

An enemy that just drags you into the air and drops you like a rock would be so evil

[livid heath]

Lift and then drop dealing fall dmgs

[livid heath]

My man

[half hornet]

Snatcher without the snatching - you can't see shit, maybe cant do shit and others have to shoot it off you

[coarse berry]

I could see the shockers doing that

[livid heath]

Shockers?

[nocturne flax]

we aint doing that

[coarse berry]

The big bastards

[half hornet]

Big fliers

[livid heath]

Charger form l4d2 pov:

[nocturne flax]

yeah we dont do the shocker

[coarse berry]

Big flier sounds so lazy I cant

Same with big striker

[livid heath]

I wouldnt call em fliers

I call the smol meat balls

And the big ones battle ships

[half hornet]

Actual mimics maybe?

Use the voicelines, mimic the voice, ask you to give them ammo

[coarse berry]

I know its probably sacrilegious but I want to see those synthetic humans Schaeffer encounters

[livid heath]

Too small

[half hornet]

You turn the corner and get jumped by a dear god what

[livid heath]

True

[coarse berry]

Considering we've gone AWOL by r8 they could absolutely he sent after us to kill us

[livid heath]

Oh you mean like SCP-372

“The corner of your eyes”

[half hornet]

Yes

[livid heath]

That would be soo hard to do

Literally 4 man is impossible for that to work rrly

[coarse berry]

All these unique ideas and R8 is gonna give us the shadow flyer and call it a day

[half hornet]

Im assuming you're refferencing the lizards

[livid heath]

The stick bug MF that doesn’t hurt u

[coarse berry]

@half hornet something like The Outlast trials did?

[livid heath]

Just there to jumpscare

[half hornet]

Well... My suggestion for support sleepers still stands. Frankly requires the least work.

[livid heath]

If that

I think the most they can do is

[half hornet]

A quirky scout that gives invuln to nearby friends, very simple.

[livid heath]

Let them feast on the dead ones and become more aggressive and faster

[coarse berry]

Some enemy that covers the ground in the nasty ass biomass, walking in it slows the player

Maybe hurts them

[west crow]

They should add the snatcher

[half hornet]

Oh that also could work yeah

[half hornet]

Area denial is something sleepers could use

[livid heath]

Both heals them in the process

[west crow]

THE GASSER

[livid heath]

Straight up a area denial enemy

Gets bored lf them after 2 days

[west crow]

They should steal the modifiers from outlast trials

[half hornet]

Actually...

[west crow]

They wouldn't even have to make new levels, just randomize the modifiers

[coarse berry]

Theres a snitch inside garganta

[half hornet]

Here's one

[coarse berry]

Kill the snitch

[half hornet]

Bots know how to scan, right?

As in they know where to stand?

[west crow]

There is a dauda kiting the sleepers in the complex

[livid heath]

Where snitch

[coarse berry]

Unironically I'd LOVE mutators in this game

[half hornet]

How about an enemy that attempts to deny scans?

Bodyblocks them or whatever

Just stands there in all his glory

[livid heath]

Like actually delay the scans via disrupting the systems?

[coarse berry]

An enemy that could manipulate BIOCOM woukd he cool

Or somehow having an influence on electronics, making the HUD / gun sights flicker or outright fail

[half hornet]

No, literally just gets in the scan and doesn't let you do it until you kill it

[livid heath]

That would be everything that swarms you really

[fallow wasp]

An enemy that will run away from you to wake other rooms

[livid heath]

Hmm

[livid heath]

Nah

[west crow]

The immortal

[livid heath]

Scout already took that

[livid heath]

Or maybe

[fallow wasp]

But this one can be funny and stubby

[livid heath]

A enemy that has a shield

Which blocks off bullets letting the others move up

[half hornet]

Thats what I was thinking

[coarse berry]

The game had audio files for a 'screamer' and an 'exploder'

[half hornet]

Google phoenix point shield arthron for me

[livid heath]

Both to area denial and shrugg off dmgs

[coarse berry]

I imagine in practice the exploder was more helpful than anything probably why it got cut

[livid heath]

Ever played “let them come”?

[west crow]

They already used exploder animations for the immortal

I wouldn't have my hopes up

[coarse berry]

The immortal has animations?

[livid heath]

Yes

[coarse berry]

I've literally only seen it power slide around

[livid heath]

Alot too

[half hornet]

I thought he's just a tank

[west crow]

https://tenor.com/view/gtfo-hop-on-gaming-bug-glitch-gif-26288681

[livid heath]

Like my prf pic rn

[coarse berry]

Exactly

[livid heath]

The menacing A pose

[half hornet]

How about enemy that steal ammo

[livid heath]

Nah

[half hornet]

Rushes to you, gets like 20% of each from you and runs away

[livid heath]

Too ridiculous

I mean how would it even work tho

[coarse berry]

That would be painful

[livid heath]

Like waiting for u and then rushes?

Because the gimmick here is all enemies are sleeping

[half hornet]

Alright maybe not ammo but at least consumables

Oh that's a nice 6 ammopack you got there

[livid heath]

Ever played let them come?

[half hornet]

No

Sounds familiar

Is that about the badass dude shooting forever

Or zombies

[livid heath]

https://store.steampowered.com/app/505630/Let_Them_Come/?l=vietnamese

Yes

And the enemies there are very interesting

Mostly the the shielders

Literally have my peak interest

[half hornet]

We have ability to jump, yet don't really use it in combat...

A shock wave type enemy? Jump over shit to avoid getting damage?

Probably too cheesy for such a serious game

[west crow]

They're adding the Schaeffer boss fight where you're given the flamethrower and have to split up but don't forget to bring your now available rgb glowsticks to light your way in the r5b3 clone whose containment scan is 20 minutes longer

[livid heath]

Very much so

Orrrr a enemy that can chuck out literally concoctions

Deals a lil more dmg and also applies infection

[half hornet]

I forgot spitters exist... What is up with them.

[livid heath]

Than the wall sacks

[half hornet]

What are they even.

[livid heath]

The wall sacks?

[half hornet]

Every so often it downs on me that we have them and it's like... Theyre so out of place.

[livid heath]

Yeah

[half hornet]

Not a single log as much as mentions them.

[livid heath]

Like its true to have the@ at very poisonous fogs

But still this shit is misleading AF

[half hornet]

Are they parasites in the flesh? Some other parasite life form that just kind of got in?

[livid heath]

They could also be an plantation created from the poisonous fogs

[half hornet]

Like a mutated plant or something?

[livid heath]

They dont seem work like flesh

More like corals

Reacting to biological or physical contact

So yes id say the dimness and poisonous fog and soggy atmosphere grows them good

Explains how much they are when theyre inside a giant room filled with said fogs

[livid heath]

Like some shady favoritism plants that actively hide from direct contact to the suns light

Stayin under other plants

[half hornet]

Anyway my point is we could use them for a unique enemy type

But like there's just nothing

[livid heath]

I said that like 3 days ago

A very darkness fond enemy with alot of powers

But weak and gets burn by the light or any lights sources

[half hornet]

Also I suddenly realized what they remind me of - those giants guys from bloodborne

The ones that you can't see without Insight

[livid heath]

And we fight it untill we turn on all powers in sector to kill it

[livid heath]

Huh

Thats cool i guess

Night vision should be a thing

Or a tool none the less

[half hornet]

Let them grow a body like that - bam, new enemy, easy

[livid heath]

Talk about that

10c would literally rant and not do a thing

[twin dirge]

get this

for R8

the final boss

is a shadow tank

[coarse berry]

not recycled enough. flying shadow tank

[twin dirge]

it's a scout but you can't kill it

[tough badger]

scout ladder bugged permanently

[nocturne flax]

if you want recycle enemy

charger scout shadow

that behaves like a hybdrid after wake up

you everything thats not an actual miniboss

[dry dagger]

Guys this is a real life question. In R5D1 Extreme, ||when you have to do the cell hunt and go to 508, can the tank spawn in the first room (A||)?
If it can, then gg imma go kms.

[atomic escarp]

havent played that yet sry

[dry dagger]

Fixed that so I don't upset any people who are blind, even tho spoiler chat.

[tough badger]

||iirc the answer is "yes" and "also there's a second tank". not 100% on the second part tho it's been a while and i haven't done the alt.||

[dry dagger]

If this is true, then that's true pain. Ain't nobody got time for that!

[tough badger]

yes lmao

r5d1 is pain

[dry dagger]

That would really make people push 10C to buff precision rifle. At least 10 shots, come on now.

[twin dirge]

10C

it all makes sense

[wary olive]

why is it gg if it can spawn there

[dry dagger]

It's not gg for the game. It's gg for my misery.

So that'd mean you'd have to clear the room and fight it bc of ||the S Surge alarm, cause it'll get pulled most likely, and hope you have enough ammo for pmom afterwards.||

[deft kiln]

You won’t need to pull that room

It is 2 rooms away from surge

Will never pull

Just funnel the door like everyone else

[dry dagger]

It's not a potential spawn for surge?

[deft kiln]

It is

But two rooms away man

[brisk wraith]

Them spawning in that room doesn't always mean they'll alert the tnak

[deft kiln]

They can scream unless they are in a room adjacent to you

[velvet flower]

The only difference of key hunting in R5D1 is whether the mother in area A

[deft kiln]

Yeah even this doesn’t really matter cause mom will be almost alone in the room

[dry dagger]

They can or can't scream unless adjacent to you?

Sorry just want clarification.

[plain saddle]

Enemies can not scream if they are 2 rooms away or more. They can only scream if they are in your room or a room adjacent to you.

I believe that enemies can still be woken by a door breaking in close proximity, even if they are 2+ rooms away, but that's a different thing to them being woken by a scream

[dry dagger]

Huh, I actually never knew that was the rule. It explains why alarms don't pull rooms always.

But the rule for spawning is if they're 2 rooms away or more, they can spawn from there, correct?

[plain saddle]

Yes, an enemy can spawn in a room 2 rooms away, and that room can have enemies, but the wave spawns won't be allowed to scream and pull that room

[dry dagger]

I see. Appreciate it @plain saddle and @deft kiln and @velvet flower and @brisk wraith

[fallow wasp]

Which prisoner is the oldest?

[fringe surge]

does the error alarm in the start of r5 E1 stop via an objective or something?

[deft kiln]

It stops via terminal commands

It tells you that

[fringe surge]

I forgor
ty

[wide lion]

i need more hard maps in gtfo

[livid heath]

May I introduce….(dms)

[obtuse surge]

play the charger rundown from sam

[tough atlas]

unless they cant, then it becomes 1 room away

and unless they cant that either, then it becomes 0 rooms away

Quick way of testing that if you want is R1B1

If you open North, they'll always 100% spawn North when you do the alarm for East

if you dont then they spawn at A (1 room away) which is South

[ruby void]

Here if it help

Theres 3 shooter at the bottom

[livid heath]

Blind AF

[half hornet]

That's fog.

[plush basin]

you're looking into fog and you have flashlight glare of 2 people

[livid heath]

Yep

[ruby void]

So you just be blind like half the time?

[plush basin]

in fog, yeah

[livid heath]

Yea

[half hornet]

Yes. Welcome.

[livid heath]

What did you expect

[half hornet]

This game does not respect your eyesight.

[livid heath]

That you can have perfect inhuman sense?

[ruby void]

I dont know, I was kinda expecting some level of clarity in the fog

not just blind

[real moss]

welcome to GTFO

[plush basin]

thats what fog repellers are for

[real moss]

And turbines

[real moss]

Also that is light fog

[plush basin]

Just wait til R6D3Ov 😁

[real moss]

next week

with azert. if you wanna jump in

[plush basin]

Next week I'm gonna be ✈️

[real moss]

Japan again 🤯

[plush basin]

Nah just Portugal this time

[real moss]

Nice

oh wait no that's in the south of france

nvm

[plush basin]

bro what you know where Portugal is right?

or is it a weird translation

But anyway, won't be here for that unfortunately

[ruby void]

what is light fog

not a heavy fog like R3-something?

[half hornet]

Yes, there are different kinds of fog.

Some are just "eh, I guess I can kinda see"

And then there is "I am swimming in fucking milk"

[real moss]

It was joke

/woosh

[plush basin]

Probably because I'm lacking on the France geography 😛

[real moss]

It's not that bad is what I am saying

[plush basin]

OOH NICE

alright alright alright alright

[real moss]

Well, need to go more often then. I heard at the moment they doing open air barbecues in some city's

[real moss]

dayum 😅

[wide lion]

jackpot

[wide lion]

?-_-

WHERE SCAN

[deft kiln]

Objective bug funny funny

[wide lion]

only migration help)

[deft kiln]

Yeah host bad player lobby you might be able to death tick the objective back but idk

[wide lion]

to close 😄

[atomic escarp]

@dry dagger the zone that has the apex door, lot of elevation and with Pdw u can see the tumors of not you can pull him to the donut zone has some elevation also no fog to blind you

[dry dagger]

I see. Appreciate the strat sharing.

[atomic escarp]

Any time

[dry dagger]

Sorry wanted to clairfy, for the Extreme zone, where there's the 4 charger scouts for the cell hunt, how did you deal with them? C-foam nades?

[atomic escarp]

2 double mined
1 alerted
4 pulled the entire room with the tank too was bout to rage quit but yeah cfoam nades are a savior

[dry dagger]

Honestly that's cracked on your part. Were you low on ammo for pMom?

[atomic escarp]

No had to pull to previous zones n got ammo from there
8 uses went into killing pmom and the spawns

[livid heath]

@sly badger when anyone posts GTFO memes

[sly badger]

yes!

[livid heath]

Make more

[prisma zodiac]

@ruby void

This tierlist by rayalot is probably the closest to generally agreeable rn

For example the only things id move are: (all by 1)

Heavy AR down
Shotgun down
Rifle up
Revolver up
Heavy dmg down
Machine pistol up

[half hornet]

wait what happened to UZI

what's wrong with it? (aside from my complete inability to hit anything with it)

[ruby void]

Thanks! I don’t understand why the ranking but I trust it’s just good to go and click heads

[prisma zodiac]

Anything specific?

[prisma zodiac]

its ok
Bad range, hard to actually work at 100% due to firerate + spray

[half hornet]

that much i noticed

i hip fire it - it misses

i ADS - it wiggles all over

it hits a sleeper - he staggers and now i miss too

I feel like DPS is great, but its annoying working with that thing

amazing for mag dumping giants though, the one good memory of it i have

[ruby void]

The primary revolver, why was it good in general

And why the normal pistol rank C tier/Mid

[half hornet]

• It penetrates
• Kill biters in one-two punch of Headshot > Bodyshot
• High stagger (pretty much guaranteed stagger on every shot for smalls)
• Lots of ammo
• Broken reload cancel that almost halves the reload time

[ruby void]

I had been rocking Carbine + combat shotgun so I kinda understand why they’re S

[ruby void]

Wait It have reload cancel?

[half hornet]

see ammo counter go up > do shove > switch back > continue shooting

Persomally i don't do it, but whatever

[ruby void]

Had been trying to setup macro for it because clicking 2/3 seem weird to me after shove

[half hornet]

It probably would be an A tier if not for that cancel

[ruby void]

There isn’t any gun (except sniper) that can kill small one shot right even to the head

[prisma zodiac]

@ruby void dont use a macro for it lol

[half hornet]

Technically sawed off and Double Tap Rifle can do that. Not a "oneshot" oneshot, but you know.

[ruby void]

Was there specific reason to it?

[half hornet]

And DMR actually can too... If you equip like +4% Main Damage Booster

[wary olive]

except sniper? so you're including special weapons?

[half hornet]

Also funny fact: The Pistol oneshots biters to the back of the head

[prisma zodiac]

theres a bunch of guns that can 1 shot smalls in 1 shot
Theres only 2 mains (sawed off and "double tap")

[half hornet]

So just flank and execute

[prisma zodiac]

for specials a ton can do it.
unless you mean bigs, then yes. Only sniper 1 shots them rn (tho scattergun can and is coming soon)

[prisma zodiac]

artek... boosters are out of the equation

[half hornet]

4%

its 4% away from what it should've been

[verbal ether]

Hel shotgun can't ?

[half hornet]

but that's just my opinion

[prisma zodiac]

"pretty much"
its 100% guaranteed on smalls/chargers. Less "high stagger" and more "good dmg -> good stagger"

[ruby void]

Sorry let me rephrase, things that supposed to deal with a hordes

One shot one kill vibe if aim good + slight distant

[half hornet]

among main - double tap if you aim for the head and sawed of if you get point blank and put it in their mouth

[wary olive]

revolver with headshot, hel gun, high caliber pistol, precision rifle head shot, all shotguns but combat shotgun is less forgiving with range

[half hornet]

Otherwise not really

Specials are the ones that are supposed to kill wave usually

This game's idea for gun functions is akward

I honestly don't know what the devs think Mains are for

[prisma zodiac]

@verbal ether theres some stuff around it :p it barely misses out

since head pops before all pellets hit it.

[ruby void]

Double tap feel weird and play weird

[prisma zodiac]

nah, the dmg is 30 at this point. you play it like standard shotty, so you can basically kill up to like 8 meters even

[half hornet]

Is it? Its just quirky DMR

[ruby void]

You aim for their head but their head get blow off so you missed the second shot

[half hornet]

I heard people aim for necks

[prisma zodiac]

you aim for head and pull down hard or you aim for neck and let recoil make the 2nd hit head

[wary olive]

u need to flick down after shots (especially if you are host)

[ruby void]

Oh ya why the host and player have drastic differences when I’m reading guide

Like blackhopping and some funky mechanics

[prisma zodiac]

ping

^well thats the simple answer

[ruby void]

Ah shit

[prisma zodiac]

but going into detail would mean id explain it all specifically which you wouldnt use anyway unless you speedrun

[ruby void]

I mean I playing with people across the continents

[wary olive]

what?

[ruby void]

Host NA, I’m Asia

[wary olive]

how does part breaking on clients only benefit speed running?

[prisma zodiac]

we do stuff like that here aswell

[wary olive]

its also the same principle behind tumor overcapping isnt it?

[prisma zodiac]

not partbreaking
blackhopping and such

well partbreaking aswell

[wary olive]

ah blackhopping

[prisma zodiac]

anyhow, speedrun stuff is rarely things you would use much in the normal gameplay
👀

[ruby void]

I mean the game is hard and reading speedrunning is a good way to learn tech

[prisma zodiac]

sometimes

it depends

especially since most of the tricks are part of the glitch category

so they are borderline or hard cheese

[ruby void]

I don’t mind cheesing the game, since I’m just bad kek

[prisma zodiac]

advice, get better

[ruby void]

Like 20 hours in past 3 days? So ya been trying to learn

[prisma zodiac]

youve seen professor scalers guides?

they could prove to be more helpful for general gameplay and learning how it works

[ruby void]

I did, some people recommended me

I watch his updated newbie guide and it’s been a good start

[prisma zodiac]

anyhow, speedrun stuff probably wont help you clear levels moreso than normal guides would

I can say this pretty confidently

[half hornet]

Just play the game normally, that's what the devs would've wanted

Been working out for me at least, for the most part.

[prisma zodiac]

afaik a lot of devs enjoy seeing speedrunning perspectives

[half hornet]

True, but no game is usually built with that in mind. Especially various skips and whatever.

No game dev develops a game with a thought of "oh man, i would love the player to do this elaborate thing, break the game and skip like 5 hours of content to skip to the final boss"

[ruby void]

I had been enjoying sliding a lot

No beginner guide taught that, don’t know if it’s useful but slide + reload in is fun

[half hornet]

Its fascinating to see for certain and i commend people for effort for finding such things but i dont know. Always seen it as lowkey disrespectful to the game.

[prisma zodiac]

well there are speedgames with intentional skips in mind that are hidden well

disrespectful is a meme in the speedrun community lol

[half hornet]

I understand just playing fast. Sprinting every possible second, pixel-perfecting your turns, item uses, etc.

[prisma zodiac]

cuz any dev that sees it as that is well ya know

[prisma zodiac]

people who speedrun already played the game a ton

[half hornet]

Reminds me of FURI

I think they even had like an official guide on youtube how to speedrun their game, sort of (because they put a speedrunning achievements in there)

And it contained the small gameplay tips of basically just minimising the down time of your damage output

Things like not using the final swing of your melee combo because it knocks the opponent down and forces him into invincibile state, so you're wasting time with that

So its better to drop the combo and start shooting the ranged weapon instead

Not only it was useful tip for the achievement, but it just felt more fun to play as well because it reduces the "break time" of waiting for the opponent to get up.

The fight just never stops that way.

...which of course forces me to ask why the final knockdown hit even exists then

What, just to take a 1-2s breather or just for aesthetic purposes?...

[west crow]

STOP POSTING SCREENSHOTS 😡😡😡😡

[wide lion]

!

[wide lion]

stop writing)_

[west crow]

I don't speak Russian! I don't know what you're saying!

[livid heath]

Smoke 3 more joints

Youll learn Russian in no time

[wide lion]

but i understand what you write, and what? 😄

[livid heath]

Oh wait

[livid heath]

Yep its that long guys

[wide lion]

we know 😄

but win

[livid heath]

@deft kiln whats your most completed level? (100%)

[velvet linden]

would have to be r2d1

[livid heath]

How many times

I like the level too

[velvet linden]

49

[livid heath]

Hmm

Nice

[ruby void]

He's just mood

[livid heath]

Ur friend?

[ruby void]

No im just reading the review

[livid heath]

Ah

[ruby void]

and ya ya I know it's the easier one of the reactor mission

[livid heath]

He must really love that mission

[half hornet]

Fuckin' lol

Filtered by r1c1

Wait until he plays one of Es

He'll be howling

[prisma zodiac]

did jish participate in the r7e1 or r7d2 grinds?
Mine is ~110 for R6A1

But i rarely spam a level just to get a normal clear

[livid heath]

Huh

I was asking to see level clears ( ) too

I have most in R7C2 89

Frickin love that level

Most enjoyable C tier with no story at all

[prisma zodiac]

i know people grinded r7e1/d2

Having 200+ clears

[livid heath]

D2 is short and fun

So likely its more completion than E1

[half hornet]

I should replay that level sometimes, love it

Its like R1C1 on steroids (defense duty anyway)

Oh god, now that HEL Rifle is here its probably mega easy now.

[livid heath]

Yea

Pre nerf Hel gun in that mission

[prisma zodiac]

hel gun nerf did nothing for that mission tho?

[daring pilot]

It did like nothing period lol

[prisma zodiac]

oh the nerf is decently noticeable in more chaotic scenarios

but long line ups

hell nah

[daring pilot]

For me it’s just a feel nerf

[livid heath]

Not saying anything but still it is a monster

[prisma zodiac]

it went from S+/god tier to S tier

[livid heath]

Yup

Just the feel threw me off a bit

[wide lion]

invisible resourse

[atomic escarp]

Here is my 2023 Crayola Crayon flavor tier list

[kind swan]

This isn't even all of the potential Crayola colors

[frail horizon]

there are so many things wrong with this

[tough badger]

Should've been loss

[last gust]

the way I'd phrase it, is that mains are meant to give you some capability into smalls

how much that "some" should be is a delicate balance issue

but specials are meant to determine your role in the team

so like, you can bring a special that excels at mopping up smalls, or one that lets you knock off back-rank giants, or put large damage into bosses, etc

[half hornet]

To me they appear to be basically self defense weapons. To kill 1-2 sleepers pestering you, either during fucked up stealth or as back up when you run out of ammo on special.

[last gust]

yeah that's not far off the idea imo

[coarse berry]

mains are better than that

but not when you're alone

[last gust]

if mains are too good at mopping up waves, then there's less of a reason to bring waveclear specials

in general as you overtune mains, it kinda indirectly buffs specials that are good into bigs and bosses, as you're not giving up as much fight into smalls in order to carry that capability

[half hornet]

And some of them are just straight crowd control, like HEL PP or HELshot

Although HELshot is a little bit more than that, but still...

[last gust]

current mains are among the strongest they've ever been

like, there's stuff like r4 hel revo, sure, but I don't think there's been a phase of the game's history where you had as many pushed main options as now

[last gust]

hel shotty is a hard break from the philosophy of mains

special slotted in main

pairs well with the most "main-like" specials, har and revolver

[half hornet]

....and then there's Bullpup

I don't understand why devs are not buffing it still. The emperor has no clothes on this one, come on.

[last gust]

imo the correct way to buff bullpup is to just give it a reload cancel

maybe a tiny bit more damage or ammo or something

[coarse berry]

IMO slight damage buff and slight reload buff

[last gust]

but the gun's mostly fine if you can get reloads

but I guess the devs would have issues with directly endorsing reload cancels

[coarse berry]

would be an interesting day if they 'patched' them

[last gust]

I would become a modding community refugee

I only play duos and the occasional solo these days

[half hornet]

Nah, I will not accept the cancel

[coarse berry]

would give up reload cancels in an instant if they did partial / empty reload animations

[kind swan]

They stuck with "Long reload" literally

[last gust]

patching reload cancels would feel like a change that adversely and negatively affects low-man play

[half hornet]

Increase mag to 50, increase damage by maybe 10% or something and I think it will be almost perfectly balanced in B tier.

[coarse berry]

mag size is a bad buff idea imo

it keeps the same problem, it just takes slightly longer to get to it

[half hornet]

It's a fair one

Im fine with long reloads, I'm no stranger to that

But: they must be worth it

[coarse berry]

agreed

it gives the bullpup some uniqueness but currently it doesn't even remotely justify it

[last gust]

you need to be bringing online a pretty nasty capability in this game to justify a reload commitment north of 2s

[half hornet]

They can always just HEL it up...

[coarse berry]

dear god no

[kind swan]

= - =

[half hornet]

I suddenly want a Bullpup sentry.

[coarse berry]

auto sentry but without tungsten

just as ineffective

[half hornet]

I don't know...

there's literally no reload

[livid heath]

Instead of longing for a buff

How bout we long for a new weapon

[half hornet]

Nah, we got enough I think

[livid heath]

Enough?

[solar pecan]

i need more

[half hornet]

Like, which aesthetic we haven't tried yet? Ignoring the various AOE ideas.

We got small pistols, medium pistols, heavy pistols, 5 different kinds of shotgun...

Fucking titanfall didn't had this many weapons.

[solar pecan]

cant have enough weapons

i want akimbo uzis

no aiming

just firing

hell yeah

[half hornet]

I think the only gun that's missing is a slow, target-leading burst weapon

[livid heath]

The machine pistol is a mac 10 at best

[half hornet]

Think SCAR from L4D2

[livid heath]

How about a smart gun

Slow projectiles that homing

Making it perfect to pair

[half hornet]

We could try getting quirky with bullet spread

Gun that has perfect pinpoint accuracy in hip fire, gun that shoots in a line, gun that shoots a perfect triangle...

But I think that would be clashing with the vibe of the game

We definetely could use more melees though.

How comes we don't have a machete or an axe.

Such low hanging fruits and yet...

[nocturne flax]

how about we have a new objective

mining this mineral

and we extract on this pod

[livid heath]

Hmmms

You know what

That is really good

Like payday 2 heist drills

[velvet flower]

How about we have hostage negotiation

[livid heath]

Negotiations with monsters pov:

@nocturne flax having a drill through an apex or a security door to open up an exit point or get […] would be so fun

[atomic escarp]

The real question is, will they even try to do it

Or just pile up r8 hastily and leave game to rot

[livid heath]

Always leave it for modders

[atomic escarp]

The potential

Ah well

Can't have nice things I suppose

[solar pecan]

only if it plays payday 2 music and the drills dies every 30 seconds

[livid heath]

You can

With mods again

Scout scream horde and hsu are death sentence

And alarms is razor mind

[atomic escarp]

Same thing happened with this other flash game company or used to be flash they moved to html5
They had a game that was made in 2012 or 14 was it I dunno, it was an rts game that had many different aspects and strategies the devs been consistent with new content that made game lot more interesting till last 4 years where the e quality dropped substantially and ruined a rare gem of the flash world, leeching players pockets with insane grind and dog water content that was welded together and called it a day

[livid heath]

Yeah

I mean

One could hope right?

[atomic escarp]

Here is my 2023 post-grunge band tier list.
Okay so at the top we have Creed, easily S tier. Scott Stapp is the GOAT. Next in A tier we got Collective Soul (very underrated) and Foo Fighters who are admittedly pretty mid but Dave Grohl is awesome so he moves the boys up the list. In B tier we have Staind and Puddle of Mudd, both very solid bands that deliver catchy but arguably uninspired radio hits.
In C tier we have Incubus and Silverchair, with the latter being the cooler of the two. Incubus is good but they never evolved past their funk-rock sound that other bands simply did better.
In D tier we have Stone Sour, good band but mid singer. Corey Taylor is overrated.
Next in E tier we got Audioslave and Bush. Tom Morello is a tool and Gavin Rossdale sucks.
F tier Nickelback.

[livid heath]

Say what now

[atomic escarp]

Fair but keep em low
Won't hurt as bad if not at all

[calm coral]

seeing their argumentation for being against modding I think they might take back that sentiment after all content is released. There’s so many modded rundowns out there. I hope they integrate a steam workshop system when they decide they don’t want to work on it anymore. don’t think anyone would complain

[coarse berry]

thatd be nice

[nocturne flax]

I mean after the "incident" they been chill with modding and work alongside modders

[coarse berry]

the incident?

[nocturne flax]

They always stated that they'll see how theyre gonna implement modding after the gsme fully releases

[real moss]

tbh shadow_dragon they have stated a lot of things

[atomic escarp]

my sentiment as well but who knows

[calm coral]

woohoo

just looking at what the BO3 zombies community did in the steam workshop

and especially with the fact that GTFO is tile based

so easy to create maps

[coarse berry]

L4D2 too

still relevant over a decade later cause of mods

[calm coral]

havent played srry

but I’m sure it’s the same general idea

[twin dirge]

I can't believe a game that definitely has an EOD would get modded smH!

[coarse berry]

horde shooter, came out in 2009, literally 50k people still playing it right now 'cause of mods

[calm coral]

daaamnn

[twin dirge]

I'm curious if the dev team really thought the same 9 devs would infinitely keep updates to GTFO for many many years

and that it wouldn't go stale with recycled sleeper number 15

[coarse berry]

rundown 37 coming in dec

gtfo will live forever

[atomic escarp]

i think a better example is payday 2, when the developers hated modding in the past, gave 10k worth of money to a community moderator who was supposedly given to last bullet's creators now rebranded as modworkshop but the money is mysteriously given to a charity organisation, stole modder's code inspirations and implementing it into the game without crediting the original modders, adding an optional berlin wall to segregate people who uses blt mods to then embracing it over the course of the years, and even had a streamer showcase who used a ton of cringy mods like vtuber voice overs

[wide lion]

,

and?

[atomic escarp]

you can be against modding as much as you want, but eventually you'll just cave in

[kind swan]

Ok

[wide lion]

ok

https://tenor.com/view/richard-simmons-sure-jan-wink-wink-a-ok-got-it-gif-26415112

[wide lion]

only to r8 xD

[calm coral]

some of it is just cheesy, especially client side “qol” mods (infinite stamina, double jump, run with items)

oh and bhop

[kind swan]

MUH GENSHIN FLASHLIGHT

[atomic escarp]

some of you are just too despicable

2

[atomic escarp]

it's a player's choice to install them

[brisk wraith]

There's also ping everywhere (not just doors, items, and lockers anymore)and accuracy show

Almost forgot the best one, clean clothes

[kind swan]

Ping everything isn't really a mod technically speaking considering its part of the game. The devs just disabled the feature believing it provided too much information

Iirc back in Alpha stages. You were able to ping enemies and etc and it had voice lines

[brisk wraith]

It's very useful for pointing in the general direction of a resource

[livid heath]

You still can now

Theres a command in sneaking “pick a target…”

[calm coral]

ping everywhere is fine if you ask me. It’s just pinging sleeping shadows which seems cheesy to me

if only they allowed whoever is carrying bio to ping sleeping enemies using the ping system

one at a time

but the communication required is part of the fun

[kind swan]

I mean as in you ping an enemy. it has it's own icon and etc. and your character saying a voice line like "Enemy here"

[livid heath]

Yep

[calm coral]

“three to the left, about 180, 10m out”

[livid heath]

Such as anyone with a bio

[kind swan]

that's a voice command. it isn't the same

and not using bio

[livid heath]

It doesn’t affect bots

So commands is out of the way fr

[kind swan]

just straight up pinging with middle mouse

[calm coral]

it’s very useful for everything I use it all the time

but you won’t catch me pinging under shadow giants

[kind swan]

the thing is warp. bots and voice commands like that didn't exist in the alpha

[calm coral]

weapon stats mod is fine as well

any purely aesthetic mods as well

but ehhh

[livid heath]

Chatter reborn

[calm coral]

might as well just play vanilla right

[tough atlas]

I think that a lot of the "mods are bad" attitude that some devs have is due to how games now tend to release extra stuff as DLCs and whatnot

Therefore having a mod release something very similiar to what devs plan to add in a b2p scenario hurts profits

Also the reason why some devs change attitude over the years

I also agree that some mods push what "QoL" really means

[winter wharf]

Me when I shove 12 uses of ammo from across 4 zones into a single locker (its a quality of life mod)

[calm coral]

Me when I shine my infrared flashlight to light up the entire room without anything pulsing (it’s a quality of life mod)

[nocturne flax]

aint no way black its censor

[real moss]

I do not know what you mean dark_dragon

[nocturne flax]

😭

[real moss]

don't be sad sub_saharan_dragon

[kind swan]

Me playing with some people yesterday.
And the guys were talking about things they can develop and etc and profit.
Me: yeah. These devs wouldn't work that hard to do those things or create them.

Things mentioned were like Elden ring / Exploding enemies and etc.

Ngl the elden ring one threw me off way hard when they tried to say the devs make one

Next to them saying Hammer felt bad for them

And saying the desync thing I talked about is just a skill issue

(I was hitting strikers occi and get orange hit markers but my hit didn't register so I would be moving to the next target only to get licked or hear a scream from behind me)

[livid heath]

Same

Love when that happens

[livid heath]

@nocturne flax

[olive shoal]

I love hammering reactor

[obtuse surge]

we know

[olive shoal]

you should try knife it sometime Wesley 🥰

[livid heath]

I love hammering into anything

Even tanks

[obtuse surge]

you should try this irl:

[livid heath]

Boom stick?

[olive shoal]

I’m not in the market for touching grass unfortunately

[livid heath]

Here

Nature for u

[olive shoal]

Is this an r8 leak

[livid heath]

Yes

Ending is this

More plants and dead bodies

[crude otter]

r5d1 has a zone 73 which is located at the beginning and is locked until you do the reactor and need to extract at start with error, but why would you go in 73 and what is in there?

I found a video where they say a snatcher is in there

but idk

[velvet flower]

There's a terminal in there with a lore related logs

It's basically lore-only purpose.

[tough badger]

r5 d-tier has some funny lore locations

[rotund fractal]

Hey guys, I replayed R7B1 and R7A1 with some new guys that just bought the game and I VIVIDLY remember that in both levels in the end you went OUTSIDE on the desert. But we completed both and there was no part that took us outside. Am I crazy ????

[tough badger]

You might be thinking of r6, which has not been re-released yet

[hexed vapor]

R6A1, R6B1.

[tough badger]

r7 has very few outside portions, and definitely not in A1 or B1

[rotund fractal]

holy hell, R6 was when the game released from early and had those outside bits?

[deft kiln]

Yeah

[rotund fractal]

And R6 is where there's that huge boss in the end?

[tough badger]

Yup

[rotund fractal]

R7 doesn't have any outside parts at all?

[tough badger]

It has a few

[twin dirge]

a few

[rotund fractal]

Which levels?

All the 1s ?

[tough badger]

B3, C2, E1

[twin dirge]

E1, C2, and B3

oop

[rotund fractal]

Haha

Ok cool got it

[tough badger]

B3 is in secondary specifically

C2 is main and secondary

[rotund fractal]

all right got it