gtfo-spoiler-chat

[obtuse surge]

cuz in R5 its just one zone

and in R7 its just one zone for half the team

maybe R8E1 wont have turbine stealth

lets find out next year

[winter wharf]

It's an E tier level, it'll have a turbine and no fog repellers if the trend continues

[daring pilot]

Downwards had 1, KDS deep had 2 iirc, so this one will have 3

[obtuse surge]

but crib also had 2

so maybe its a wave and it will be 1 again now

[coarse berry]

Damn shame. Wish more levels did that

See our problem was we shot through most of the shadow rooms anyways LOL fucked ourselves for what was behind that door

[daring pilot]

I think the E1 reactor is meant to purely be a difficulty check

[prisma zodiac]

yea

[coarse berry]

Yeah, think so

Sad, I love when doing optional stuff actually affects the level

Like going out of your way to power on the lights for those few zones in r7b3 Vault

[daring pilot]

Yeah, R6/R7D1 my beloved

[tough atlas]

I think there's 3 ways sectors had been implemented: 1- they're easy but add a "difficulty" to Main (R5A2 Extreme turns lights off but it's technically done in minutes) 2- they are "long" and add nothing or very little to Main, (R6B2 Extreme adds nothing, it's not long but it's just padding tbh) 3- they are padding AND add something to Main (R5B1 Overload makes fog infectious and also is a boring reactor).

The first way of implementing makes very little difference to what games usually call modifiers

Sure, for the example I used, you also have to go through a zone with some sleepers and another zone with a bit of sleepers and 2 scouts but even if you fuck up you're either dead in a minute or back to doing Main with the lights turned off

[coarse berry]

exactly! stuff like going Mother's optional routes to lower alarms. more of that

[coarse berry]

ah yeah, never played r5, excited for that

[tough atlas]

Personally I'd have preferred if sectors were handled more like the R5A2 ones

[coarse berry]

Two Koning's for Downwards. good idea or awful?

[prisma zodiac]

2 snipers?

feels like a lot overkill

[coarse berry]

the plan was that it could very quickly dispose of tanks and the fuckfest at the end but you might be right

[prisma zodiac]

can work tho obviously

[tough atlas]

Take this information how you want but people duoed it with 2 shotties

[coarse berry]

me and my friend were using choke shotties and bullpup/PDW which was working fine but we didn't have ammo by the end

not enough at least

my logic was that the bullpup actually does surprisingly good/fast damage to tank pustules but for other things its, well, the bullpup

[prisma zodiac]

you rly dont wanna shoot tank with bullpup

[tough atlas]

I'd much rather bring a PDW to handle with the shadows

[coarse berry]

yeah that's what my friend had, I probably will too next attempt

[winter wharf]

Tank killing is not the problem in all likelihood

You should be fine with choke mods

Also if you have mines you can just blow the tank up

[prisma zodiac]

and 1 sniper will make it easy enough

hell, you can always take precision rifle

its actually not troll for once

[tough atlas]

this is true

[prisma zodiac]

decent vs tank, makes reactor a cake walk

great vs shadow scouts

[coarse berry]

wait prec rifle against the shadow scouts you're right

[real moss]

And then foam mine p mom

[coarse berry]

most of our ammo usage was me being unable to see the shadow scouts in main and fucking up the choke shot

and setting off the room lmao

[winter wharf]

And you're playing with bots right? Those are pretty good at shooting/pinging shadows on their own

[real moss]

the duo was pretty ez to do

[winter wharf]

So you could get away with no thermal

[coarse berry]

two bots, ideally one if our third gets on

[real moss]

It's actually usefull on that level.

[coarse berry]

the precision rifle is automatic?

why

[real moss]

So we need more levels like R4E1

😂 @tough atlas

Alright back to holiday. you guys don't start flame wars without me please

[tough atlas]

We'll hit each other with water cannons

[coarse berry]

they buffed the PR's reload?

this is the buffed version?

[winter wharf]

3.6 -> 3.3

[coarse berry]

jesus.

[winter wharf]

So pretty much the same

[tough atlas]

Pretend it's a cute but clumsy girl

[winter wharf]

The gun or your character?

[tough atlas]

I meant the gun

[winter wharf]

Awh, no clumsy prisoner girl who has trouble reloading a gun, the weens cry

Weebs

Fuckin autocorrect

[obtuse surge]

i could fix her

[coarse berry]

hackett looking at a broodmother

[kind swan]

[hexed vapor]

I'm debating whether to flame this guy or not.

Dude joins lobby with all +400% boosters.

Switches off when asked...

Takes supply efficiency.

Only uses it on a 2-use ammo (which they held onto from spawn).

They have Sniper, but double tank fight has taken 10-15 minutes (R7E1).

They barely shot tanks to begin with and have gone down to them multiple times.

Also just generally running around like they have no idea what they're doing.

They're, like, around for Snatchers

but aren't trying to fight them at all.

[velvet linden]

do it

[hexed vapor]

Probably going to wait for them to do something else stupid, we're finally past double tank

[velvet linden]

become evil rayalot

[hexed vapor]

K, they left of their own accord.

40 minutes to get through to teleporting back, btw.

[fresh bronze]

people like this is why i refuse to play pubs

in fairness someone joining with boosters like that its probably a good sign to just refuse to play with em

[fallow wasp]

+400% boosters?

What stats did they give

[daring pilot]

Man if you’re gonna jack boosters to 400% at least do it with fog repulsion power

Or glowstick power

[fresh bronze]

gtfo but glowsticks are the sun

[coarse berry]

Glowsticks so strong they melt enemies

[kind swan]

Lowkey I was tryna join that pub but missed my chance

[deft kiln]

Dw Ray it was just my alt account

[hexed vapor]

;_;

[deft kiln]

I have decided to start my insane person character arc

Where I play on new accounts as a mute soundboard player

With all the mods

[fallow wasp]

I wanna know what 400% fog rep. power looks like

[half hornet]

considering the range of fog relepperts...

entire room cleared in a single fog repeller + maybe a room over if they're small enough

that would be so amazing to watch

suck it up, little fan-thing

[kind swan]

you typo'd "Fog Propeller"

[fallow wasp]

You typo'd "Frog Propeller"

[velvet linden]

none of you are funny

[fallow wasp]

Kids named You:

[twin dirge]

Grog Smeller

[tough badger]

that's -400% fog repeller power

[hallow lark]

Flame him! HUNT HIM DOWN and ensure he never ruins another’s fun

[hexed vapor]

Tbf he wasn't exactly trolling.

He was just really really bad.

[hexed vapor]

Which is most people that use infinite ammo, God mode, etc.

They want to win, and they're using cheats try to do it subtly (often not so subtly, often because they're extremely incompetent otherwise).

[hallow lark]

But isn’t he super bad about it? Using 400% boosters which never is supposed to be that high in any way v

[hexed vapor]

He took them off.

It just also became immediately clear why they tried to use them.

[twin dirge]

what about spitters but a variant that spews infection fog

[hexed vapor]

@prisma zodiac

May try to set up gunshots some other time if I'm bored.

[prisma zodiac]

oh yeah that works for sure

was mostly thinking of when you are in a third room

[hexed vapor]

I don't see why not, should be based on enemy position.

[prisma zodiac]

i agree on logical basis

but we know gtfo is funky

[tough atlas]

"If a sleeper glows and noone's there to see it..."

[deft kiln]

sometimes sleepers don't update properly(to save resources) 2 rooms away

[hexed vapor]

Maybe, then.

But that should apply to prox aggro most likely.

[deft kiln]

it should

[hexed vapor]

Not impossible only one check works, but...

[deft kiln]

is there prox aggro on scream?

[hexed vapor]

It should function the same as forced aggro and such.

So, probably not.

[deft kiln]

well then i think the play for the future is to go into b and shoot be then trigger scream in a and you are golden

[prisma zodiac]

you could even just shove a small in A, make it scream. Then run into B and shoot

[velvet flower]

It's kinda inconsistent to shoot in B without making the giant in front of the security door awake but others awake

[deft kiln]

shoot in the back of b on the werid fucking long path

you should be able to alert blood door and not the other side

[kind swan]

Playing R1C1

And the 3 guys all wanted to defend in the truck

[prisma zodiac]

Its honest work

(When you put the mine down below the truck)

[daring pilot]

Some people just wanna ride in the truck man

[kind swan]

I should say.
1: Host had a bad connection
2: Blue was potentially hacking (enemies didn't aggro onto him at all.)

But idk if the connection could have correlation with that

[primal patio]

3. Huge desync(possible with good connection)

[deft kiln]

GUYS I have a rule question

am i allowed to play modded factorio on the gtfo server

[kind swan]

despite peer to peer. A host with bad connection affects the others majorly

And even with that. I've never seen or heard enemies like that outright ignoring 1 person

[solemn wigeon]

You can play anything that isn't modded gtfo

[deft kiln]

I feel like they would be against all mods

[coarse berry]

modded minecraft? banned

[deft kiln]

12. We do not currently support modding, as we - first and foremost - must focus our efforts on delivering the high quality game that we've promised on the product page. For this reason, please do not post any content related to modding (screenshots, videos, links to modding resources, etc) or run modded games while using the voice channels on this Discord server.

like look at the wording

[solemn wigeon]

modded games of gtfo 👀

[deft kiln]

na

[coarse berry]

one day this game might have a workshop. one day.

[deft kiln]

they dont make the difference

just modded games

[solemn wigeon]

Call it alternative methods of playing :D

[daring pilot]

That’s fine, as long as it’s not modded GTFO

[deft kiln]

thank you dak

can we update the rule wording pls

[daring pilot]

uhhh sure I can ask ab that

[harsh solar]

Warhammer 40K mod incoming

[atomic escarp]

how bout modded gtfo

[high vortex]

Please do not say the m word

[deft kiln]

sorry edited

[coarse berry]

odded gtfo

[high vortex]

Thank you @deft kiln you’re the best

[solemn wigeon]

I want drippy shoes

[twin dirge]

odded GTFO

[atomic escarp]

drip season is out

[candid dragon]

Grip season is in

[atomic escarp]

any grippers in chat

[winter wharf]

Wtf is a gripper

[fresh bronze]

I believe a foot

[solemn wigeon]

New leaked enemy

[fallow wasp]

Grippers are just the baby variant of snatchers

They aren’t big enough to kidnap you so instead they just suction onto your feet like slippers and try to drag you away

[daring pilot]

[solemn wigeon]

[daring pilot]

[solemn wigeon]

[wide lion]

no one no want to go on e1r2)

[errant vigil]

Why are you saying it the european way

[wide lion]

i am batman

[reef talon]

would have worked better if you had bat melee

[hidden crater]

Sledgeman

[livid heath]

Uhhhh

[half hornet]

Don't see any problem there

[split crow]

what's the matter

[pliant pasture]

is there an issue here

[half hornet]

Either the bridge is not supposed to be standing straight (although I can clearly see moving mechanism), or somethings wrong with a weird knuckle thing on the left.

[winter wharf]

it is supposed to be, it's a funny tile

[half hornet]

So the bridge was the issue... Uh, go around?

[pliant pasture]

real shame you can't shoot the chain holding it up so it falls down

[solemn wigeon]

Dynamic environments would be cool

We could have a bridge tile where we need to call the bridge to extend over the hole while defending against stronger waves

[plush basin]

Shoot the chain supporting the drawbridge and squash your teammate 😄

[plush basin]

legit this would be great though

[solemn wigeon]

Could even add events mid extension where the mechanism locks up and a terminal is needed to reboot the system

[plush basin]

Could be neat if the extension allowed access to new zones along the way instead of just having them unlock part way through a sequence

But would be hard to keep parkour enthusiasts out

[solemn wigeon]

Wdym

[plush basin]

Well if there was some kind of mechanical bridge or a set of them and as you progressed to putting them all in the accessible positions you could cross them and enter a zone that was inaccessible before

[solemn wigeon]

No about the parkour people

[plush basin]

Oh, well if the only thing preventing zone access was the bridge you would get people trying hard to access those zones via other means, jumping around on the terrain

[solemn wigeon]

Just use appropriate invisible walls

Doesn't seem that bad

Also imma send you something i found recently

[fallow wasp]

Extending bridge to another zone instead of doors

I’d be down for those

More moving/strange ass environment

[coarse berry]

yeah some variation

[fallow wasp]

I wonder if the dev team is just vowing off gtfo forever

[coarse berry]

mans left overkill to make another heist game

[solemn wigeon]

There better at least be references to santonian and kovacs

[twin dirge]

heist games are the future

[candid dragon]

I dig any game i can shift w.

[broken scarab]

Hoist that heist

[subtle oriole]

Ughhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh I got all the way to the last code on R4D1 but the bots wouldn't get into the damn bioscam D: D: D:

Common bot L

What's in the last room past the IV alarm in R4D1?

It's mothers, right?

[astral ferry]

nah just 4+ scouts and a couple of giants, chargers, giant chargers(?)

[nocturne flax]

"secret wave 5"

[prisma zodiac]

huh, theres BBCs?

[real moss]

no mommy's

[subtle oriole]

Hmm, that must have been R4 before alt

I was watching some YouTube vids

[twin dirge]

theres a secret rundown called the among us rundown
what you have to do is go into R8E1 and near the end of the level theres a vent
you have to crawl into the vent
and once you make out of the vent you will appear in the among us crew mate ship as the sussy imposter

[tough atlas]

Secondary is 1 zone with spare change enemies, 1 zone with a mother that automatically wakes up, and another zone with 2 mothers that automatically wake up. There's also some giants here and there IIRC. Main doesn't have mothers.

By the way I'm going to ask here but IIRC secondary in old R4D1 only required a terminal input and there was no team scan at the terminal, do I remember right? Because now there's a team scan.

[pallid swallow]

Is precision multi applied when you hit chargers' head?

I wonder cuz if it is, hel rifle doesn't kill chargers in the head

[velvet flower]

Chargers don't have weakspot so no precision multiplier

Hel rifle kills a charger wherever the hit lands

[half hornet]

Chargers dont have a head weak spot. For them it's just a limb that breaks with no consequences (I think they get staggered when that happens, but that's it).

HEL Rifle (the fat sniper-like one) oneshots them by default no matter where it hits since it deals as much base damage as they have HP (30). The only case it would fail killing one is they are outside of its' effective range and damage drop off kicks in.

[prisma zodiac]

@hexed vapor the longish hole here

smth like that i think

yea prob not a 100% rule

but you can very much walk over enemies in a pinch with this if you need to go NOW

[hexed vapor]

Oh, tile is meant literally.

[pallid swallow]

do flyers have stagger animation?

[prisma zodiac]

i think they do like a roll thing

[half hornet]

Literally never seen that

They just pop for me, never seen them do any sort of "ouch" animation.

[prisma zodiac]

shoot em with a gun that doesnt kill instantly (any full auto)

[wide lion]

can`t invite to anything...

[atomic escarp]

@coarse berry

[coarse berry]

EUREKA

it does work

[half hornet]

An exceptionally rare Bullpup W, huh

[hallow lark]

Um not always….

Unless I’m just mis-seeing something

[nocturne flax]

you'are

[deft kiln]

there is dmg fall off but

it is so impractical that it matters

[fresh bronze]

i knew some weapons could do it in 2 hits but i never expected a fuckibng full auto to be able to

[pallid swallow]

Is stagger damage separated from precision damage?

||weapon has normal damage on "bodyshots"
normal damage * precision multi on "headshots"
normal damage * 2 on "backshots"
normal damage * precision multi * 2 on occiput||

Is it normal damage * stagger multi * precision multi for stagger damage on "headshots"
or is it general normal damage * stagger multi?

like do I need to shoot hybrid in the head two times or four times for stagger from precision rifle?

[prisma zodiac]

its dmg you do x stagger multi

[deft kiln]

It is all multiplicative

That is how we done 500 stagger dmg to mom with just hammer

[coarse berry]

the one thing the bullpup is kinda good at, DPS

[pallid swallow]

20x5x5?

[deft kiln]

Yup

Dmg * head * headshot value of the weapon * stagger value of the weapon

[fresh bronze]

Cool its possible, makes me wonder what other weapons might pull it off

[deft kiln]

A lot of them can

[nocturne flax]

have can

i had a friend who did a compilation of killing regular scouts with all primaries

[deft kiln]

Nice can

[coarse berry]

carbine can

then again what can't the carbine do

[deft kiln]

All specials can

I am pretty sure

[coarse berry]

well with some of those you'd have to get so close why not just melee it

the bullpup could do this at a decent range

[deft kiln]

I mean maybe

It still is burst at long range and need back head

Like hel gun is more consistent than that tbh

[coarse berry]

better than some specials

bullpup is a main though

[nocturne flax]

the best flex its triple shotting a scout from the front with dmr

you do that shit and everybody its checking you ass like if you were thicc boy

[deft kiln]

Well you do have a nice ass

[nocturne flax]

damn papi

[fresh bronze]

how long you got until a scout goes off after a gunshot

i didnt realize you had such a long time

i thought it was a case of you can get 2 good shots in if the scouts feeling nice about it

[wary olive]

the actual scream happens ~4 seconds after its alerted, but it becomes invulnerable the moment it gets alerted

[fresh bronze]

what is the delay between the gunshot and the alerting is moreso what i was asking

[wary olive]

there is no delay

or not enough to be significant

unles youre client and playing on high ping or something

[pliant pasture]

iuhh like 2 or 3 frames lol

[fresh bronze]

there must be some delay if bullpup can kill a scout

[pliant pasture]

stagger

[wary olive]

its not delay, its because its locked in stagger animation yeah

[fresh bronze]

gotcha

[narrow gulch]

you can stagger it yeah

which is like

half a second ish

[fresh bronze]

didnt know you could stagger a scout before it was set off

[wary olive]

yeah its how you also could double tap charger scouts with hel gun

im not sure if its possible anymore

[pliant pasture]

before? hmmmmm if we are being precise i don't think you can, it has to be the same instance

[narrow gulch]

it should still be

you can do it with high cal with ridiculously tight timing

[pliant pasture]

it takes a couple frames to start being triggered, but zero to start being staggered. not reasonably a big enough window to 'interupt' a trigger thats queued up

[fresh bronze]

i know with desync its possible to melee a fuckin charger scout alone

but without desync i never realized getting more than a single hit in was possible beyond a few clips i had seen

[deft kiln]

you can melee quick swap charger scout on host ping

[fresh bronze]

no clue what you mean by melee quick swap

[narrow gulch]

the forbidden tech

[deft kiln]

#gtfo-media message

[fresh bronze]

gotcha so you can melee a charger scout the immediatly swap weapons to a gun

[narrow gulch]

sledge is a balanced weapon btw

[deft kiln]

with high cal you can do it with a tap of the hammer

[narrow gulch]

it says it in the description

[deft kiln]

or knife

[fresh bronze]

not that id do that in a room with 5 charger scouts personally

[narrow gulch]

couldnt you technically silent shoot the high cal shot and full stealth kill it

[deft kiln]

yes

[narrow gulch]

god

[deft kiln]

hell you could even pdw quick swap before hammer swing

[fresh bronze]

every time i think of this shit i just remember the time my buddy staggered a charger scout with a hammer swing and then proceeded to kill it entirely by accident

[deft kiln]

yup lag is funny

[fresh bronze]

was such a what the fuck moment

i missed my swing which is the only reason it happened

good to know you can solo a charger scout if you have ammo, and you are willing to wake up the room and your good enough to pull off the tech

[narrow gulch]

or you can just bring a gun that can do it normally lol

[fresh bronze]

im good id rather just melee it then bother with the tech anyways

syncing up hits is pretty consistent if you practice with someone a couple times

ive never seen a instance of charger scouts in error waves so i doubt ill need to worry about em in that case

[narrow gulch]

in game rn the only level you might need to worry about it is r7e1

[deft kiln]

modded loves this

my fav is the hybrid scouts

LOVE THEM

[fresh bronze]

im prob never gonna do modded

but shit like crawling scouts and giants do sound fun ima have to pass

[deft kiln]

who ever made them is so hot and handsome and i want their kids

[deft kiln]

yeah fair enough it is already a niche game and modded is just more niche

[fresh bronze]

the incosistencies in this game are bad enough i dont need to mod them in

that and i aint good enough to play the normal game lord knows i dont need it to be harder

[narrow gulch]

inconsistencies?

[fresh bronze]

mostly refering to the single worst desync issues ive ever seen in a multiplayer game

[narrow gulch]

ah

yeah fair enough

[deft kiln]

yes

[narrow gulch]

ive seen MUCH worse in terraria, but the nature of this game makes bugs feel a lot worse

[fresh bronze]

terraria is unplayable multiplayer for me, even with host and me on wired connections i literally cannot get the game to function in a way that isnt so unstable that its still a fun game

[narrow gulch]

the breaking is the best part

[fresh bronze]

but thats mostly because terrarias server system and peer to peer is ancient, it used to work great for me and my friends like 5 years ago

we would have someone regularly get kicked from server in a vanilla game every 20 minutes

didnt matter who hosted or how good internet was

[narrow gulch]

wow, ok thats not the fun form

never seen that damn

[fresh bronze]

it was pretty bad

but gtfos issues mostly stem from desync of shit causing random wake ups that dont make sense and generally can feel unfair

[narrow gulch]

ye, sometimes its funny but most of the time its not

[fresh bronze]

im not bothered by it anymore but ik that for new groups it can be frustrating esspecially since the idea of blaming lag for your issues isnt widely accepted

fuckin one time had a lag spike where everyones game froze excluding host for like 30 seconds and i could see my healthbar going down but couldnt see the enemies

honestly funny as fuck lookin back on it

[drifting kayak]

kak

[hexed vapor]

@daring pilot The only mention that at least I recall is you mentioning it happening on spitter+cell levels, so R2B4 wasn't really on my mind (even though I'd known it happens there).

[daring pilot]

Yeah, I said I wanted to test it on every combination. Gencluster/spitter, generator/spitter, and no gen but yes spitter

And I asked if anybody had encountered sound bug on R2B4 but I don’t recall anyone saying they had, apparently Eva did

[prisma zodiac]

yes sir

[hexed vapor]

I had sound bug + insane map lag.

[prisma zodiac]

it crashed me :p

[hexed vapor]

It nearly crashed me.

[prisma zodiac]

it was even on stream for the german gtfo fun tournament

[daring pilot]

ok welp cool, glad to know i didn’t avoid putting spitters in my levels for no reason ;-;

sigh

[hexed vapor]

It's possible if not likely it's a lot more general than just spitters.

[daring pilot]

Has it happened with cocoons?

[hexed vapor]

Spitters are just one of the few spammable examples of something that makes lots of audio.

Not to my knowledge, but p sure this is a (mostly) new issue.

[daring pilot]

I know birthing sacs don’t cause it (i think)

[hexed vapor]

And respawns are quite rare.

[daring pilot]

To be clear, birthing sacs = the things that precede birthers

[hexed vapor]

I've not heard of it happening or had it happen in R7E1, though.

[daring pilot]

Oh true ig we would’ve heard of sound bug on R7B3

[prisma zodiac]

i think it should be spitter focused honestly

[hexed vapor]

Which actually might be strong evidence towards it not being a general issue and being spitter specific.

[daring pilot]

Bc that level has cocoons and no spitters

[prisma zodiac]

well 😛 i got soundbug on r7b3 twice i think?

but for 1 of those it was 100% scout related

[daring pilot]

Oh fuck dimension bugs too

[prisma zodiac]

i think the other was too, dont remember

that was back when nymn and me speedran that for the first time

[daring pilot]

aaaaaaa

There would absolutely be a dimension related sound bug

Wait didn’t that happen in the Markiplier R6 playthrough? I seem to remember Sean saying his audio was fucked after Alpha One

Gonna be driving for a bit so won’t be responding

[hexed vapor]

I'm pretty sure that R6 had memory leaks in general that are (mostly) fixed.

And possible flyer-related audio bugs.

[prisma zodiac]

i only remember those sound bugs on lvls with spitters or scouts

and even then, r6b1 never had me sound bug iirc

[hexed vapor]

R6D1 is p notorious for it.

[prisma zodiac]

y

[hexed vapor]

And I think checkpoints on the whole could significantly boost the chances of you encountering problems.

[hexed vapor]

It just happened very often on the final fight.

[prisma zodiac]

or not being teleported back :>

[hexed vapor]

If only R7D1 had dimensions.

It would have been the perfect level.

[prisma zodiac]

xD

i dont think it has spitters

that could be a nice addition

[hexed vapor]

In a way, it's a testament to the level's design that it could do so much with so little.

[daring pilot]

The flyers in D1 were removed

[velvet flower]

Yes, an elegant solution to fix the flyer pathing issue.

[obtuse surge]

from my understanding the sound bug isnt related to any of this specifically

its just more common in certain situations

seems a lot like all thats happening is a sound of something getting cut off and then the audio is just broken

and this can probably happen with any sound anywhere in the game

as long as a secondary sound gets layered on top of it

you can also still see in rooms like the final of R4D1

that the game just struggles immensly in actually playing all the sounds its supposed to

throbbing enemies getting cut off is incredibly common in that room

not because of something specific in the room

but just because theres many things in that room that produce sound

[tough atlas]

You mean different sounds playing at the same time rather than many istances of the same sound?

[obtuse surge]

i think both can cause problems

[subtle vault]

Looks like R5 is coming soon

From the 10 chamber IG

[tough badger]

Black and white picture of the first alarm room in E1?

[half hornet]

Sawed off confirmed

Can't see what the guy in the middle is holding

I think it's hammer from an awkward angle

[nocturne flax]

30 damage 🙏 saw of shotgun

i pray for 10cc

to make it 30

[subtle vault]

It’s the hammer

[kind swan]

It's a hammer

[kind swan]

Considering most of the playerbase is US. It is midday Wednesday rn

Wait til later in the day when people get off school/work

[deft kiln]

I mean it is just him

There are players he just can’t see them

[kind swan]

Ctrl+R moment

[deft kiln]

Na the dude internet provider has this thing blocked I think

Has a problem even playing steam

[kind swan]

Could be

[tough badger]

please i can only get so excited

[hexed vapor]

Best pub Sniper

[prisma zodiac]

@hexed vapor 3 bodyshot hybrids
HUGE, near 2 tap giants (only need like 1 hel revo bullet)

idk seems rly good

[pallid swallow]

how to PE R4C3
Secondary -> Overload -> Main?

[plush basin]

Yep

[half hornet]

Yep, this is the only correct way.
You COULD, technically, try doing it Overload > Sec > Main but like... Do you REALLY want to also fight chargers while grinding through sec's stealth sections? Hell, i'm not even sure the level got enough ammo to do that, seeing how people constantly die to 0% Ammo issue in the conventional route.

[deft kiln]

YOU GET A CELL with overload

that you can use

[half hornet]

Do you mean the spare optional one that they put there to make sure people don't get softlocked if they open the wrong door?

Hm. That does cut down secondary by basically half. But still... You'll have to do the bulkdoor scan with chargers, you'll have to do the generator scan with chargers... Eurgh. Just more opportunities to fucking die.

[obtuse surge]

its rly not that much extra waves

but yeh if u just wanna win

do secondary first

AND LIST CELL ON THE TERMINAL

[deft kiln]

no

[obtuse surge]

IF THERE ARE 4, RESTART

[primal patio]

its doable and not as hard as you think

[fresh bronze]

friend said we doing pretty good on resources and one of my mans is 10, 11, 0

[kind swan]

[fresh bronze]

nice invisible hitbox game

if you walk against this wall here your character gets stuck lmfao my buddy got licked by a giant while trying to dodge

[fresh bronze]

started r4b2 and friend started with 99% burst?

nevermind goofy bastard did not say he had boosters

he made it out like it was a bug

[fresh bronze]

good lord how many are behind the zone 295 hell door in r4b2 overload

[atomic escarp]

Me playing it off with infinite meds bug

Guys it's funny

[real moss]

2 iirc

[fresh bronze]

was refering to enemies

i think we killed probably a total of 40-50 sleepers from that hell door

[real moss]

Also you might not need 295 at all

[fresh bronze]

from what i saw you could do class 6 or class 4 and blood door

i generally would have prefered class 4 but man that blood door was wildin

[real moss]

you could have enough in 292 and 294 + 293

leaving 295 untouched

[velvet flower]

Sometimes 295 is mandatory

[real moss]

yep sometimes it is. in that case you say hi to mommy

[fresh bronze]

is 292 the class 6?

[velvet flower]

And class 4 + blood door is definitely more spicey than class 6

[real moss]

yes

Just list the osips

[fresh bronze]

yeah i did

im not in game obv

dont memorize zones

[real moss]

and see what's the most effective

[fresh bronze]

like i said i generally prefer a class 4 + blood door over a class 6 so we chose 295

had no intention of doing 292 at all

[real moss]

Iirc you could even have enough with just 292 and 294

that would be ideal

[real moss]

that's 293

295 is mommy zone

[fresh bronze]

right

regardless

main issue for us was the fog

problem of going in blind you dont know that plugging in the cells after would be way easier because its not strictly stated

[real moss]

well next time you won't plug the cells 🙂

[fresh bronze]

good level overall but man the amount of sleepers behind that blood door was actually goofy

was a horde

[atomic escarp]

R4b2 the start to finish error secondary?

[fresh bronze]

yeah

[real moss]

yes

[fresh bronze]

sec doesnt really seem to be a issue

pretty easy to manage with one or two people meleeing

[real moss]

it's just a 3 mob error

[atomic escarp]

Glad my memory is still relevant

[fresh bronze]

does the 3 mob error stack with the extraction alarm?

[real moss]

what extract alarm?

[fresh bronze]

we got 4 mob groups after putting in 4th cell

that and it felt like we got waves more often but could have been placebo

[real moss]

the 4th cell should just trigger a one scan alarm. but I never had to do lots of the level after it cause we plug em all at the last second

so meaby

[fresh bronze]

yeah we got the one scan alarm but after that it seemed we got bigger groups

id say it was prob them stacking somewhere but we where in the level for a solid 5-6 more minutes after that

not counting the class 4 alarm

[real moss]

Doing the ovl in fog sure would be fun to do sometime

[fresh bronze]

id say doing it with one cell in would be fun doing it with more than that just is painful

then again its gtfo so what isnt

[plush basin]

It's a crazy blood door, the class 6 is way easier imo

[fresh bronze]

yeah the class 4 seemed like a complete pushover then we did the blood door and wiped from the amount of enemies

even with more resources we prob would have been fucked

[real moss]

it's a start we do it with zero.so zero fog as well

[fresh bronze]

lights off + that thick ass fog made it really hard to see

[atomic escarp]

There isn't anything fancy behind it wym

[fresh bronze]

that blood door had a lot of enemies behind it

[plush basin]

There are quite a few hybrids and the room it leads into has a shitton of enemies

The class 6 is just much less threatening

[atomic escarp]

Forgot I was using double shotgun sentry

[fresh bronze]

if we had opened the door and ran back a room or two then handled them there with the fog it would have been incredibly managable but the sheer amount of enemies that poured out was yikes

very fun level tho

[atomic escarp]

Iirc there's a ladder to the left of the door

Or not 🤔

If there is use it as funnel

[fresh bronze]

we tried camping it but predictably big brain bot decided he was going to stand inside it and got melted by us

we still got over run at the end of it tho

def doing class 6 next time tho

[atomic escarp]

Only if it has more than 3 osips

Blood door isn't that bad at all

[fresh bronze]

can check at the beginning of the map

then reset if it doesnt so we dont lose progress

not a big deal

[atomic escarp]

U also can bac' off into the ovl bulk door

Or that also works

[fresh bronze]

2 more waves on the class 6 compared to the class 4 is just simpler than dealing with that blood door

also maybe im crazy but our class 4 alarm waves of enemies where tiny

[plush basin]

I felt that too

[fresh bronze]

it felt like 1/3rd of what you normally get

[plush basin]

I thought maybe our turret was just kicking ass

But it was only a burst

[real moss]

sometimes you need to do both tho. and then you just do

[fresh bronze]

see thats what i would have thought but we didnt have any turrets with ammo lmfao

[fresh bronze]

#gtfo-spoiler-chat message

[real moss]

weak

[fresh bronze]

if i can mitigate rng im going to

[atomic escarp]

I say just do blood door

[real moss]

I'd do blood over mothers anyday

[atomic escarp]

This man knows

[real moss]

But even for mothers I would not reset

[fresh bronze]

mothers aint really hard

annoying but not hard

[atomic escarp]

This man doesn't know

[real moss]

depends if alone or same time

[fresh bronze]

regardless im not gonna let rng decide which path of the level i take when terminals are literally intentional game design

[real moss]

50 babies is a lot man.

then again no need to wake em up

[fresh bronze]

just shoot em

[atomic escarp]

Shoot da babies

Hammer the mom

[fresh bronze]

i could take on 50 babies irl whats the difference in gtfo

[real moss]

this works for the blood door as well

[atomic escarp]

They fast n witty

[fresh bronze]

and in gtfo i got a gun and hammer

[real moss]

I'll see about that after my first one is here

[fresh bronze]

balances out

regardless even if it wasnt for the goofyness of the blood door id still do class 6

more fun to do different options

rather than replay same thing because its "optimal"

[atomic escarp]

Blood door also fun

Try it with bots

[fresh bronze]

bots aint fun

and i aint playing gtfo with bots

[atomic escarp]

Hammer 90% of error n almost trigger mom

[real moss]

never said it's optimal?

[fresh bronze]

id rather play project zomboid with my foot

[real moss]

Just said to go with where the osips are

[fresh bronze]

thats what the resetings for, i control that factor

altho in original run of the level it was 2 in both class 6 and class 4 rooms

[real moss]

One day 😔....

[fresh bronze]

make the maps not rng and i wont reset to manipulate it

cant manipulate all the factors but i sure as hell can try

[real moss]

Every drop should be a serious one. even R2E1 should not be reset when missing a turbine

[atomic escarp]

Missing a turbine?

[fresh bronze]

then all maps should be consistent

but they aint

[real moss]

yeah on rare occasions you have turbine in only one zone and cell in the other

meaning you have to do both shadow Ones

zones

[real moss]

they aren't by design tho

[coarse berry]

on Crib? isn't there always 2 turbines?

[atomic escarp]

But it's net positive no?

[real moss]

nope

[fresh bronze]

consistency is what i find fun

ima play how i find the game fun

[coarse berry]

damn I don't think I ran that level once and found just one

[real moss]

had it twice

on a LOT of runs

but it happens

you just have to open both sides. makes the 2nd surge more interesting tho

[fresh bronze]

also man they really dont use invis much

[real moss]

well if you do it well . you are STOCKED on resources

[prisma zodiac]

Ah yes, consistently make useless zones then

Like r2b2, just have a mom zone in r4b2 overload that doesnt do anything :^ )

Variance makes the game a bit more interesting

same for reactor terminals and their zones

[atomic escarp]

Yeah then I can hide my infinite med glitch better

[real moss]

🧐

[fresh bronze]

having more than one path to finish a map is also variance but clearly that was lost in translation

[real moss]

that exists tho

in R4B2PE

[coarse berry]

i figure the strat would be to just tank the ~10% infection to plug in cell and hit alarm, then get the turbine after the surge is done

my team would always do both blood doors to get the extra resources

[real moss]

It's better in R6D2 tho ngl

[coarse berry]

regardless

[real moss]

Bruh

[fresh bronze]

on maps where the two paths are similar its fine but if it can force you to pick a very different path than thats no fun

[real moss]

we would never waste the time unless needed cause of rng

[atomic escarp]

Procedurally generated rundown when

[real moss]

It's the whole base of the game. that's why reactors have good and bad terminals, same for uplinks, same for Keys etc etc etc

[fresh bronze]

also really goofy that you can skip the fog in r4b2

[real moss]

everything varies for that purpose

[real moss]

intentional

you supposed to see what it does then act according to it

ie not lowering the fog to the lowest part of the map

when doing PE

[fresh bronze]

ofc i just find it strange that it really dont effect much if you just wait to do the objective

generator levels typically force you to do them

i mean sure the run back is in fog but thats not a big issue since the amount of enemies isnt a big deal

[real moss]

that's cause most of the time they are to acces lower area's. this one is just reversed

[fresh bronze]

yeah like i said weird how its designed

[coarse berry]

really didn't take that long

[fresh bronze]

feels like they didnt fully utilize the potential of forcing suffering on pe players

[tough atlas]

The only problem I have with the "different path" thing is that there's always going to be the path of least resistence

For R6D2 I saw mother path only because I really wanted to and was with bots

[fresh bronze]

i dont really care about the whole slightly differing path

[tough atlas]

Otherwise every group would just do the charger error

[fresh bronze]

its just when you have extreme instances where the paths are completely different

[atomic escarp]

If you're not doing error with bots you aren't worthy to play with bots

[fresh bronze]

like 2 different levels kinda different

[real moss]

wait for R4C3PE

Artek Is fond of that one

[fresh bronze]

nice joke at the rate i can get my group together maybe by the time r8 releases

[tough atlas]

I'm assuming you're talking about stuff that I also find unfair like R4C2 Extreme having a chance of needing to go through 2 zones for the 2 ids

[real moss]

Charger error was no joke either tbh

[atomic escarp]

Huh? That error is nothing

[coarse berry]

part of me wishes GTFO had some -more- RNG-ish elements like that, like levels where you search for items (ID's and that stuff) they wouldn't always be the same set 3 in a zone, etc

but it would also be annoying at the same time

[fresh bronze]

yeah shit that is a solid jump in difficulty just because you got unlucky on the start of the map

[tough atlas]

Yeah that's annoying.

[fresh bronze]

i get it sure it makes things more interesting but thats only replayability wise anyways, and gonna be real i aint ever going back to these maps and if i do i probably wont remember my first experience well enough that it feels samey

[real moss]

tbf it was mostly the blood

[atomic escarp]

If u had scout behind it I can agree

[real moss]

eh

you know

[tough atlas]

The blood was the only one and just because you could either have scout behind or people underestimated BBCs

The cluster always got permafoamed

[real moss]

people always underestimate BBC's

[atomic escarp]

Also weren't the spawns weird and it spawned regular enemies from scout wave instead of chargers

[tough atlas]

And the scout always got scattergunned 😄

[coarse berry]

if GTFO had a hard mode that'd probably be the place to put it

or any sort of mutators

[real moss]

if in 2nd zone yeah😅

[tough atlas]

PLZ NO 😦

Not mutators!

[fresh bronze]

i personally dislike rng elements in games a lot unless there is a way to mitiage them

just not my cup of tea

[atomic escarp]

Fair enough

[tough atlas]

"Loud asscheek mutator" where you make double the noise

[coarse berry]

yes please mutators

[fresh bronze]

just play with the across a ocean from host debuff

[coarse berry]

replayability >:)

[atomic escarp]

But rng means more fun less tediousness

[tough atlas]

I've never liked mutators in any game ever

[real moss]

this is not real rng. the osips are behind set zones. the zones don't vary. you always know what you going for

[coarse berry]

then you've never played the Healing Gnome in L4D2

[tough atlas]

They end up being obnoxious or non-consequential

[real moss]

rng would be the scout being right behind blood door

[coarse berry]

if you feel that way about them you could just. not do them

[tough atlas]

I'd just rather have more maps that do shit like turn off the lights or pump up the fog for sectors

[fresh bronze]

but they are not preset in a way that allows you to choose based on the varying path

its strictly randomness

[coarse berry]

map making is a bit different development team than changing modifiers or statistics

[tough atlas]

For OSIPs you're talking about... R4B2 PE?

[real moss]

That's the only part tho. the class 4 will remain a 4. the 6 a 6. the mothers in 295 etc etc etc

[real moss]

yes

[fresh bronze]

my very limited experience of the map yes

[tough atlas]

My group got mom room rng and soldiered through it

[real moss]

good lad

[tough atlas]

But I'll admit the alternative would have been much easier

[fresh bronze]

and thats the problem, the rooms are extremely different but the path you choose is forced by the game

[tough atlas]

I agree that it's bizzarre since most people would just reset and I dont really blame them for that

[real moss]

the point is he wants to reset everytime osip rng forced him through blood door

which obv is up to him

[coarse berry]

that's wiener behavior

[real moss]

but for me it's just .... weak

[fresh bronze]

id prefer the class 6 and mother rooms

more fun than a bog standard blood door into large room

but the game might force me to reset for me to complete the map in that way

which is stupid

[real moss]

Oh well. in the end everyone does how he wants. it won't impact my games as my games won't impact yours

[atomic escarp]

Dj taking a Canadian to the middle east
Also dj why is he dying

[real moss]

Slayer is straight up god mode going through the game

sooooooo

[fresh bronze]

no clue who you talkin about but thats a bit different from minor rng manipulation by reseting a run probably no more than once

[real moss]

cause: "the game is literally impossible"

[real moss]

don't worry bout him he is from argentina

[fresh bronze]

oh thats fair

[real moss]

wait what???

[fresh bronze]

why use godmode to play a fps game

im not sure i understand the reasoning

[real moss]

nah he is convinced to the fullest that the game is impossible without cheats

like for real

[fresh bronze]

i genuinely just dont get it tho

[atomic escarp]

Talking about you expecting people to be as good as you 🫠

[fresh bronze]

i understand cheating that hard for games with a creative aspect

but a game where the whole fun is the challenge i dont get it

[real moss]

but but I'm not good 😭

and not from the middle east 🤔

altho I got the beard

[fresh bronze]

funny considering the videos of people doing it alone exist

[atomic escarp]

In my eyes you are a hero

[atomic escarp]

More than enough

[real moss]

he brushes them off

[tough atlas]

Oh you're talking about that guy on steam forums

[fresh bronze]

then again people enjoy risk of rain 2 with command mode but once again atleast that has cool synergies and builds you can try with the cheating

i just cant find a purpose for it in gtfo

[atomic escarp]

Cheating is for kids

[real moss]

you know the one

[atomic escarp]

Soo bad

[tough atlas]

yeah the one with doom slayer pfp

[fresh bronze]

the game aint designed to be played like doom so it dont even have the hack n slash fun element that god mode would support

kek timing

[real moss]

yep. the one who got Ray in an essay meltdown

[atomic escarp]

That's just ironic

[tough atlas]

I'm always of the idea that most of them just bought the wrong game and realize it too late

[fresh bronze]

doom eternal on ultra nightmare hella fun guessing thats to hard tho

[wide lion]

like tihs game

[real moss]

There are sooooooooooo many of them

[tough atlas]

Plutonia on brutal doom ultra nightmare no quicksave challange, you die you restart the level

[real moss]

"why can't I solo this game!!!" after buying a 4 player co-op game ........

[fresh bronze]

shit dont open a rabbit hole for me to fall into for the next month or two

[tough atlas]

It aint that bad

[fresh bronze]

it is because im terrible at video games

[atomic escarp]

Why can't this game be like l4d

[tough atlas]

But I hope you're ready for Dario Casali's wild ride of traps

[fresh bronze]

i got the mind and reflexes of a man with a awful disease

[tough atlas]

you pick a medkit the rest of the room opens and it's all chaingunners

[real moss]

yep a common one as well

[fresh bronze]

ill consider pickin up og doom in a few weeks

[real moss]

the only pixel game I tolerate

[fresh bronze]

i play a lot of pixel games so idk if i should feel attacked or not

[real moss]

You feel what you feel. I say what I mean

[fresh bronze]

i got that rimworld craving again

tis my personal favorite overly hard game

[real moss]

Go for it!

[fresh bronze]

but its rng elements are questionable

[fresh bronze]

is it as bad as playing the normal doom on xbox with a controller?

[vernal fossil]

i love this one it's like how many machine guns do you need - yes

[prisma zodiac]

Uh that is a thing already? ID, HDD levels do have variance

Say in r1b1 a zone can have 0-3 IDs

[prisma zodiac]

Shooting it was fun, but ye people foamed for safety

[coarse berry]

can it? i've always seen the same 3 ID's in R1B1's zones every time

once you get into that atrium, there's 3 in the zones to left/straight/right and then 3 in the ones past them

[prisma zodiac]

its 18 total over 7 zones

there can be 1 spawn with 0
3 spawns with 2
or a 1 spawn with 2 + 1 spawn with 1

say R4A1 zone 34 and 36 can be empty too

[tough atlas]

Despite that you never need to go in more than 5 zones, right?

for R1B1

since if one has 0, and they always spawn 18

means that all the other 6 have 3 each

so I'd assume that the worst case scenario is the one with the key having 0 IDs

which still means you could go through alarm path and scout path and still get the 12 you need

[prisma zodiac]

5 max yep, 4 minimum

[calm coral]

and glps💀

it’s so beautiful

I want it back

gimme those 4 Cs and 5 Ds

(yes I want 5 Ds)

[half hornet]

The stairs of death...

[nocturne flax]

Im not looking foward to R6

I mean i am

but they really gotta optimize it

like urgently

[half hornet]

Absolutely

[deft kiln]

Dx is a big level

Lots going on

[half hornet]

Big on textures, not on gameplay.

Which I don't mind, I'm all for aesthetics. Just don't drop my FPS to 25 while also sending enemy waves after me.

[nocturne flax]

hopefully theyll reduce the size of the map

[winter wharf]

At least there's checkpoints to let you retry and not horribly bug out your game!

Oh god, D4 having like 5 different dimensions loaded at once is

[half hornet]

Do you think they will cut the L corridor in the pre-final uplink?

[nocturne flax]

d4 actually ran pretty good tho

[winter wharf]

Not on my old pc

[half hornet]

wait

Something just hit me

[nocturne flax]

everything with a desert fucking killed my pc

[nocturne flax]

specs?

[winter wharf]

My pc is better but I'm still not holding out for great performance

Ryzen 5 1600X, Gtx 1060 3gb, 16gb 3200MHz RAM

[nocturne flax]

making me bust

[winter wharf]

Now I have an R7 5800X cpu and RX 7900XT though so it should be better

[half hornet]

Had we ever got to stealth places like DX finale? Like catwalks and all that. I know we had 7E1 stealth section, sort of, but it just went on by

[winter wharf]

But I'm also playing 1440p instead of 1080p so the gap isn't as big

[nocturne flax]

looks like a laptop

[half hornet]

We need more planetside stealth. Stabbing sleepers during night in a desert... Mmmm

[open pier]

me, cruising up to AWOL with thousands of bullets strapped to my equipment:

[solemn wigeon]

I want more alpha sites

[daring pilot]

Honestly it’d be cool if Alpha got a tileset

We already have subzone doors in alpha, would be real cool to be dropped into a level that acted like R6D4, tp to one of the sub dimensions, and just open a door to the desert

[half hornet]

Abso-fucking-lutely.

I really hope they double down on the planetside in R8.

Screw these goddamn tunnels, i'm so sick of them. Let me snipe a sleeper across the desert, that's such a low hanging fruit for amusing gameplay!

[daring pilot]

Or better yet, a drop sequence where we get put into a MWP dropper

[half hornet]

R7C2 is almost like reliving that one scene from Starship Troopers.

[pliant pasture]

the one scene with the bugs?

[deft kiln]

the idea that bugs can think offends me

[kind swan]

It's a shame the starship troopers game is a messy early access

[pallid swallow]

what settings affects shadow silhouette?

[daring pilot]

Shadow resolution

[pallid swallow]

is there a guide to what each setting do?

[daring pilot]

uhhh, pretty sure you can hover over a setting to see what it does

[pallid swallow]

yea but like visual aspect

[daring pilot]

You could always just look it up

[half hornet]

Unfortunately no one here knows an actual answer

just accept that shadows suck and you can't see them unless you bring thermals

i tried to make them more visible as well, but it just aint working

[prisma zodiac]

nah, thats you lol

in the dark they are very very easy to spot

[coarse berry]

I can see shadows just fine on high

[prisma zodiac]

in normal light it is fine

in bright fog its a bit scuff

but thats what bio/pdw are for

[half hornet]

have no idea what you're talking about

they are true to their name: completely invisible to me

i can shine a LRF on them and they only become visible once they get within like... i don't know, 6-7 meters range?

it starts as a vague black fog and then slowly materialises into a proper sillhoutte once i'm starring right at their face

at which point i'm usually already bitten

[hexed vapor]

6-7m is a pretty good range.

It depends on lighting as well.

They're easier to see in the dark.

[half hornet]

i'm playing all settings low btw

can't spare my CPU for this shit

[tough atlas]

What Ray said, but shadow resolution really does matter

[half hornet]

currently on mid

still does nothing

have to stand right next to them or else

[tough atlas]

I used to play with it on low and they are MUCH sharper in high

[half hornet]

i'm still molding that glowsticks do nothing around them

cringe and wasted gameplay potential

[calm coral]

they’re not loaded in at once though

it’s the same zone every time

it’s just the lighting, environment and spawns that happen per phase

buggy af but it ran fine compared to dx

or anything outside tbf

[tough atlas]

What was the technical reason for map being unavaiable again?

Because that's the only major complaint I have with R6D4

[half hornet]

They were probably scarred that you would open it and realise that you're in the same place

and didn't had a way to wipe your map exploration progress

[tough atlas]

It's still avaiable in... I dont know... Dimension 1 or whatever you call the starting one

[calm coral]

I think it was supposed to be a feature, since you’d recognise it was the same tiles, same zone numbers, opened lockers, etc

and you’d have to find it without the maps help

like learning from each iteration idk

we need optional objectives which deactivate your minimap

lmao

[tough badger]

I couldn't see shadow until a full rundown after I started so I think they are fae creatures and only reveal themselves to you once you've earned their trust

[calm coral]

fair point

shadows are hella hard to spot tho idk if they made them more transparent

I don’t remember them being so vague

[tough badger]

i think it's just since they made lighting changes a couple rundowns in a row

[calm coral]

I used to be able to knife a bunch of them, now I can’t even kill them unless I use a hammer (so it doesn’t matter)

cus I just can’t seem to be able to find their heads unless i’m on top of them

[tough badger]

imo it's harder to see them from above, too

i always seem to have an easier time while crouching

[calm coral]

I should try tweaking my shadow settings

[tough badger]

the real tech tho is just play with someone who's good at bio

[calm coral]

fair point

[tough atlas]

or a bot with bio

they basically nullify shadows

[tough badger]

fr fr

[tough atlas]

if they're awaken

[kind swan]

There's 5 gangbanging green 15m to the south

[tough badger]

they nerfed bot bio and it's still busted

[kind swan]

Quick go help green

[tough badger]

loads scattergun
6 kills coming right up

god i can't wait to have that affront to god back

the scattergun is truly a monument to the hubris of man

[kind swan]

Wheatloaf: I barely shot you.
Teammate: downed in the infection fog

[coarse berry]

just hold your breath??? obviously

[kind swan]

[pallid swallow]

in gtfo shadow resolution maps are
256 / 512 / 1024 / 2048?
or 128 / 256 / 512 / 1024?

[tough badger]

It's gonna be easier to test shadow settings on shadow enemies when we get r5d2 back

[hallow lark]

Bah. Shadows. Always my nemesis

[winter wharf]

@reef talon https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/803250691476422666/997254821465829446/betrayal.mp4

[reef talon]

Sniper moment.

[kind swan]

Sniper sentry: Not my fault he stood in the way.

[prisma zodiac]

@hexed vapor

[hexed vapor]

Wild.

[prisma zodiac]

i remember us even talking about how cfoam 2nd makes no real sense

[hexed vapor]

Also, I think the R4 top weapons were near identical.

AR, SMG, Bullpup

Shotgun, Combat Shotgun.

[prisma zodiac]

realistically it should be

Burst sentry bio and mines

[hexed vapor]

I don't think Sniper was top, but I forget what it was instead.

[prisma zodiac]

specials kinda make sense

[prisma zodiac]

tbf back then sniper was a meme for a long time

I still love the sub 50% tutorial clear rate

speedrunners stay winning

[kind swan]

It's 50%

Wut

[prisma zodiac]

its sub 50

46,47%

[kind swan]

Still

How is it sub 50% completion rate

[hexed vapor]

Because clear rate is an inherently flawed metric.

[coarse berry]

Is it completion rate of attempts or just

% of players who finished tutorial

most of my friends never even did it

[hexed vapor]

Every time the level has been cleared / how many times it's been entered.

[prisma zodiac]

im confused?

You asking how that is possible. Or how 46,47% is sub 50%?

[kind swan]

Over 50% of attempts are possibly failed expeditions

Even with how shitty the tutorial is. It's not hard whatsoever unless you do some weird strat or smth

[pliant pasture]

or you miss your shots

people on this server overestimate the floor on accuracy

you can always find someone who misses even more

[coarse berry]

true

[narrow gulch]

Optimistic

[kind swan]

Reasons why people fail r1c1 tbh

It's a simple thing but insulting when put into the light

[coarse berry]

reasons people fail r1c1: "Oh fuck we should've brought sentries"

[pliant pasture]

"hit the target" is important but unhelpful advice. its tricky. and just being an asshole if the actual issue is lack of game knowledge.

[kind swan]

Even with sentries. They don't guarantee a completion

[pliant pasture]

honestly there is a great hold spot if you bring c-foam + mine lol

[coarse berry]

no but it makes a massive diff

[pliant pasture]

that was my first clear, on a pub too

[kind swan]

Still doesn't guarantee it

[pliant pasture]

makes a massive diff tho

but it doesn't guarantee it

[kind swan]

My other issue is just.

The bridge spot is basically common knowledge to most

Most enemies run in a straight line at you

But people who struggle still typically have pretty bad accuracy

[late bloom]

honestly i can only explain this by speedrunners using a lot of cfoam and dying and reseting a lot. I don´t know how they track it tho

[deft kiln]

Yeah sometimes they are doing insane shit

[reef talon]

Completion % is a flawed statistic because a ton of runs are just bugged and incompletable which hugely skews that stat.

[kind swan]

GTFO is a flawless game with many "Features"

[reef talon]

Indeed

[empty ingot]

uhh we just had dozens of giant chargers and snatchers spawn in the extraction zone of R4A2

[winter wharf]

Hacker/malicious modder in your lobby, send details via dm to @jaunty hedge

[fair fern]

typical gtfo montage

they dont have a life, so ignore them and report to mod

[reef talon]

Report them to their parents

[fresh bronze]

man its scummy to do it in extract

[reef talon]

Much more immediate effective action

If I caught my child cheating and being a little script troller I would despair and wonder where I went wrong.

[high vortex]

Wait where? I’m genuinely curious.

[deft kiln]

Go back to the beginning

Lol

One player afk

[high vortex]

Wait that’s hilarious

Ty tho @deft kiln ilu

[deft kiln]

Lyt

[pliant pasture]

also it was between the bridge hole and the next hole. behind the railing, when they go around the little ramp, thats the choke point.

[pliant pasture]

^

[high vortex]

Roger that ty

[prisma zodiac]

We rarely use cfoam tbh

its burst sentries and often mines. Rarely foam