gtfo-spoiler-chat

[daring pilot]

the doom run of course

D2 but you open every door

[tough totem]

D2 but you don't open any doors?

[velvet flower]

D2 but you open Z416?

[tough totem]

D2 but you can only croutch walk

no normal walking or running

[real moss]

I always do tho 🤔

[alpine spindle]

In a nutshell, R7D2 PE is comprised of:
a) alerting all scouts, clearing scout waves, and getting stick
b.) pulling both charger + shadow room and clearing the entire zones
c.) pulling both tank and mother door, clearing entire zones (yes kill all tanks, last time I had 4 tanks to kill was fun), getting all available cells
d.) main (insert stick)
e.) extract with extra power cells in tow

[half hornet]

That's just a challenge run

[alpine spindle]

You’re no fun with names

[half hornet]

I'm very bureaucratic like that

[tough totem]

spoiler alert: ||this text is in a spoiler||

[obtuse cedar]

you forgot the point f.) you cannot leave any resources behind in boxes

so like this you have to fight for longer 🙂

[alpine spindle]

Well that’s just a given

[obtuse surge]

place all the cfoam

[tame cloak]

g.) you can't use tools

[fleet trail]

What is secondary and what is overload

[obtuse cedar]

Genocide is secondary.
Excorting the cells back is overload

[alpine spindle]

^

[gaunt yarrow]

What IS the BEST strategy in the last Battle on C1. I allways open the door after Scan, but I die triyng to reach the exit

[velvet flower]

Rush works, slowly push works. It's hard to say what strat is the best. If you keep failing at one strat, just try another one.

[real moss]

push, foam the doors (don't mine them except the one just before team scan and the one just before extraction).

[gaunt yarrow]

I Will try.

Thanks

[kind swan]

People who mine the door before team scan and then they wonder why the enemies spawn behind the extract door

[half hornet]

excuse me

mining affects enemy spawning?

that's big cringe

[obtuse surge]

some new dude in matchmaking tried to shoot the scout with mg

and then another dude repeatedly downs me because he thought it was me because i was playing fast

i have to be way more toxic towards people that dont play on my level

[kind swan]

The timing when the mine kills the wave let's the next wave spawn. And for a moment. The extract room is the 2nd room away

Technically speaking this happens because people open the security door immediately

Which just happens to line up with the usual time the door gets busted and the mine kills some if the wave

[kind swan]

I wouldve laughed if you werent even using MG

[obtuse surge]

i wasn't

he was so far behind im not sure if he heard the shot

[kind swan]

[kind surge]

it's confirmed, allens be smokin' some of that sick IB-10527.

[kind swan]

Patch of weed

[kind surge]

not weeds, weed.

https://tenor.com/view/rock-one-eyebrow-raised-rock-staring-the-rock-gif-22113367

[kind swan]

Imean that's what I typed

[kind surge]

ik. i didn't correct you.

[kind swan]

But

WEED

Wheres mine. Shi

[kind surge]

gotta hit up that Team Insight storage locker. ask for the good stuff

[kind swan]

injects booster

[kind surge]

IB-10527

[kind swan]

Boosters are highly addictive drugs too iirc

[kind surge]

yes...........

[kind surge]

https://www.notion.so/Timeline-0e93a62e8cfd44b3a36beb4ab245a2d0?p=07098c338c22490e80ad6044c7b0c5c4&pm=s
yes.

an underground market. by whom? i have no fucking idea.

[real moss]

R5A1 secondary

[atomic escarp]

he doesn't know basic error spawn mechanics

[kind swan]

[fallow wasp]

I could have saved a R5 C2PE run if I hadn’t mined while long kiting out of panic

The one level I wanted to beat more than any other level in gtfo

[coarse heart]

C3 in the uplink room, do enemies spawn in the side rooms?

[mortal granite]

they could spawn in side room if it have 2 rooms

[coarse heart]

Oh okay, thank you

[mortal granite]

it's rarely spawn but just keep in mind

[obtuse surge]

510 150

[nocturne flax]

Is my goofy ass better as a forum channel?

[atomic escarp]

your goofy ass is better than the entire server

[broken scarab]

Everything is better as a forum channel

[bold widget]

lfg forums when

[tough totem]

pet pics forums?

[daring pilot]

cooper forum :3

[silent frigate]

Why the inmortal is called Pablo?

[daring pilot]

Because the funny

[silent frigate]

Uhm but why Pablo?

[half hornet]

some weirdo just started calling it that

nothing else

[silent frigate]

Xd

[daring pilot]

Idk but I liked it so I call him that

[silent frigate]

I was expecting for something deeper

[daring pilot]

The deep lore of Pablo

[silent frigate]

[tough totem]

Pablo is deep

😳

[fallow wasp]

I thought the way were referred to as Pablo in the files as a placeholder name

And the snatcher was Jerry or something

Giants are Franks, etc.

[wary olive]

BBC...

[obtuse cedar]

Franks is a name given by a sub community that spread through pubs

And now it is widespread

[toxic shadow]

anyone have tips for foaming the door during the room scan in E1? every time I try the foam falls short and the chargers wind up breaking through

[obtuse cedar]

get better at maths

🙂

your arc is just wrong

[candid dragon]

charge to full, wait. feel free to walk out of the scan to release the foam. getting the long-bomb is hard and risks wasting more foam.

[toxic shadow]

feel free to walk out of the scan is good advice

someone told me there's a weird thing where you have to hit the corner of the door?

something like that

[wary olive]

Hit the top of the door because the chargers can clip through and eat the foam instead of the foam hitting the door

[fallow wasp]

Chargers have straws piercing from their heads

Usually they use them to drink your blood but they have also been known to drink cfoam through them

When asked what it tastes like, the charger said nothing, because chargers cannot talk

[silent frigate]

And big shooters are called chickens

[kind swan]

What about the Rare Hybrid with AirFoam 11s

[hexed vapor]

Phasmophobia has actually completely flipped my view on the GTFO Discord server.

The people getting official roles on that server are actually immensely incompetent.

[deft kiln]

Lol

[hexed vapor]

This server is actually based.

[deft kiln]

True

[hexed vapor]

The amount of misinfo that comes from "community helpers" is incredible.

And some of these people have multiple thousands of hours, +info directly from the devs.

and they still manage to be confidently, and smugly, incorrect about how the game works.

Never seen anything like it.

Not specifically the misinfo, but having a special role for people that are supposed to be the authority on game mechanics, who are perceived as such, whom you're literally not allowed to argue with (at least, this was the case in the past, and I seriously doubt it's changed), who are very regularly just wrong.

[deft kiln]

Makes sense tbh

[kind swan]

It pains me when someone religiously believes misinfo and takes no others

[hexed vapor]

I just find it super annoying that the misinfo has so much protection coming from the server itself.

And once you become aware of how easily some wild shit will catch on, it just becomes so clear that a lot of the people there are really really... unintrospective.

I almost don't think I'm playing the same game.

[hallow lark]

As annoying as the misinformations that comes… it is also equally annoying to find people who are willing to throw runs/fun/time out of people just because they want to. Just like how it’s annoying to find people who are willing to play with others with disabilities.

I was part of this team who was talking in VC but after the run failed as a result of too many room wake-ups. One member of said team was dm’ing me about someone in the VC just blaming me for all the wakeups in the room following by “deaf people shouldn’t play this game”…. Bleh. What a bunch of crock. This was awhile ago so….

[hexed vapor]

The uber salty people tend to be really bad imo.

Happens a lot on C3.

"OMG WHAT ARE YOU DOING" while I'm killing the shadow scout in an empty room. Like, bro, chill.

And they always RQ first wipe no matter what.

[olive shoal]

not the first ive heard of this lmfao

theres so much misinformation in phas its actually insane

[hexed vapor]

The funniest shit is hearing them bash the wiki for being crowdsourced.

While they literally have the exact same problem.

Hard to tell what the biggest issue is, either.

Some combination of the devs being really bad at communicating game mechanics, the community helpers never testing a single thing in their lives, and the most active users taking the official information as gospel and pushing other people away.

[olive shoal]

isnt there a bunch of stuff specific ghosts do that just

isnt mentioned in the actual game at all

its been a second since ive played so i dont really remember

[hexed vapor]

Yeah, that's a lot of hidden stuff that's hard to find w/out dev info or in-depth testing.

Most early mechanics were datamined, but they're hardcore anti-modding and anti-datamining, so nowadays everything is either direct dev info or from community testing.

[olive shoal]

ah jeez

[hexed vapor]

Speedrunners still datamine stuff in secret, tho.

It's just that it has to get passed from them to community members who present it as ordinary facts about the game.

Once you know it, it becomes pretty easy to confirm afterwards.

Same thing happened w/ GTFO, actually.

It's why anyone uses a weird ass word like "occiput".

Big part of the OG datamine.

[olive shoal]

before gtfo i had never heard of the word occiput

[hexed vapor]

It was the specific term the original scuffed damage document used back in R1.

and it pretty quickly just became a normal term.

I don't even think that many people saw the original document, either.

It was at most 20 people.

Which is nuts, but it's made me realize that a lot of the hyper-specific info people took as common knowledge back in the old days of Phas was probably 90% datamined originally.

[obtuse cedar]

sub communities adopting a word... then it get spread into pubs

same thing happen with "Frank"

[hexed vapor]

^

[obtuse cedar]

the "sun" is another one

"chicken"

[hexed vapor]

Hybrid

Spitter

We truly live in a society.

[olive shoal]

with phas ive never interacted with the community at all so my friends and i would just figure shit out ourselves

for gtfo when i started people already figured everything out so i learnt that way

[hexed vapor]

I sought a lot of info out, so I ended up finding a lot of stuff that way.

Every now and then, I'll also end up w/ an opportunity to test some lesser-known thing or a rumor I'm interested in.

Also, arguing with people is fun for me.

and Phas attracts a lot of weird opinions to interact with.

[olive shoal]

i can imagine tbh

my limited time lurking the phas discord was definitely an experience

[fallow wasp]

Whatever the next enemy is we have to name it Joe after my favourite community member

[kind swan]

Scout Jesus Enemy

[mortal granite]

first time?

most of the player i played with on that server is shit

only misinfo, or music in the background

only a fraction of that server lfg give me hope

[kind swan]

[mortal granite]

they changed their EULA so anyone mod their game, they can sue the shit out of you

[kind swan]

Throwing glow sticks/fog repellers wakes them up will always be funny to me

[hoary mural]

is there fog spam in the overload and secondary of b3?

[strange junco]

theres fog everywhere in b3

[hallow lark]

Funniest I see is seeing those other “mic only or must have mics” who left me cuz I’m deaf… struggle with a level that I’ve already finished with a different team

[obtuse cedar]

half of the fun is the discussion you get from the team. small talk is fun

some people value it more

some people also prefer a team that can communicate. and speaking is always faster then typing

[mortal granite]

i like small talk, but then it get over the gameplay

[obtuse cedar]

you played these missions multiple times by now

;p

[mortal granite]

well, ye

for me, everytime i tried to speak

they're just making fun of me

so i just hop out

"look at this dude, playing video game"

[obtuse cedar]

sounds like low self esteem

[hallow lark]

Lol

[mortal granite]

they also tried to dogpile me and get me kick

[hallow lark]

Honestly… finding people that disses others for their “you are this so you are bad at this”

Makes me want to beat them at their own games

[mortal granite]

i'm just eh, if you REALLY want me to leave

[hallow lark]

Hence where I’m at atm… finishing entire R6 and 7 without the need for sounds

[obtuse cedar]

playing without sounds isn't that hard

[hallow lark]

It’s not that hard but it’s VERY difficult when it comes to communication

Such as timed bonks and whatnot

And knowing where the enemy is “making noise” at

[obtuse cedar]

that's not hard. use your eyes

[hallow lark]

People prefer to use their ears

[obtuse cedar]

not when you are blasting music in your ears all the time while playing

[hallow lark]

Honestly… sometimes… silence is king

No nonsense. No distractions. No WTFery

[obtuse cedar]

you get to a point where you don't even pay attention to the game and just autopilot even on E tier. with music on

[hallow lark]

Lol

[obtuse cedar]

so no. this game is not hard

[hallow lark]

I just autopilot VERY fucking hard whenever I see an enemy

[obtuse cedar]

does it take coordination. yes but that comes from knowing with who you play in general

[hallow lark]

I just go through my entire Mental System of priorities with Analysis of room firsthand

[obtuse cedar]

also. timed bonk? you don't need it for 90% of the game because the enemy density is rarely dense enough for you to have to do triple kills in stealth... and you can do those to begin with with every melees

[hallow lark]

True… there are times where it’s very easy to solo bonk a G by yourself

[obtuse cedar]

and in the last 10% you have a command that show up on chat that is legit "three two one go"

so there is really no excuses

[silent frigate]

Sentries do back damage?

[mortal granite]

no

[atomic escarp]

mr sgx

i'm going to solo r4b3pe without sound

BECAUSE that's the REAL challenge

[hoary musk]

It still makes sense sometimes to put them in the back.
Because killing the first enemy delays the wave, killing the last shrinks it. Small strategic difference that makes it so you are less likely to get overrun and can make use of your ammo.

[obtuse cedar]

Or sniper sentry = kill the entire wave

"balanced"

[atomic escarp]

it's balanced because you fight a full 24 sleeper wave when you finish the last scan

[obtuse cedar]

If the alarm last that long to begin with

[atomic escarp]

😔

[obtuse cedar]

1 sniper sentry with one person who knows how to shoot can solo defend easily D2

Kinda stupid

No bio needed

[mortal granite]

sniper sentry is kinda balance, they just need to tweak the time to shoot

pre-patch speed?

or even slower than that

[obtuse cedar]

Bring back old sniper sentry

It brought consistancy.

Without killing the whole wave

[mortal granite]

imagine it's just old SS but shoot faster

[obtuse cedar]

Nah it has 2 speed boost now

And a really dumb 0.7 shot if enemies are ping

It doesn't make sense. How can you shoot 0.7 bullet

When you implement something dumb like that. You basically admit that it shoot too fast

[mortal granite]

well, maybe that's why you don't look into game code

[obtuse cedar]

You see it in game

[mortal granite]

you don't, unless you're doing a youtube video or a guide

[obtuse cedar]

The sniper sentry Will start flickering between 57 and the actual shot left

By shot left i mean the % left in the tool

So do some quick math

You don't need to check the code to know 🙂

[mortal granite]

that i don't know, i just place it down and shoot

you know, playing the game

[obtuse cedar]

I describe that it shows in game

So i am playing the game and seeing that

Also. Most people don't think and shoot the enemies the Sentry is targeting effectively wasting their ammo

[mortal granite]

i just put stuff in and shoot stuff, i don't really go for that effectiveness

anymore

[obtuse cedar]

It's not about effectiveness

It's more that they run out of ammo at the same time as the sentry and then they panic and die

[mortal granite]

you can say i'm on autopilot most of the time

i just looked at the top right corner, see the % on the sentry

"hey i'm on 20 imma fill some tool up"

put it down and shoot, if it ran out, it ran out

[obtuse cedar]

Ok. But i aint talking about you specifically. I'm speaking in general what i see in pubs

[mortal granite]

still, it's your experience

and then my experience

i can't really speak for other people experience

we can already see 2 different types of person playing this game right now

you and me

[obtuse cedar]

I aint playing effectively either. I just do stuff that makes me have to less rely on my team

If i am more independant. I don't care if my team panic and die. I just clean their mess and we go.. or i just solo a part while they go as a trio

[mortal granite]

i don't like to play like that, since it's a team game i want team play

i can solo everything myself but that's just not for me

[obtuse cedar]

The way i Play is also team Play. It clears the map faster because we are splitting the team and give a chance of survival of one side die

It achieve the same result. We are working together... Just not as butt buddies

[mortal granite]

I just clean their mess and we go.. or i just solo a part while they go as a trio this is the part where i don't like personally

i just want to chill most of the time while pulling my own weight

[obtuse cedar]

It is a chill thing. I just shoot their mess. And i don't need to tryhard clearing rooms in stealth. If you know you don't need to clear cause you Will never be back here. Just kill the minimum.

If you default to kiting instantly and find it boring than that is your mentality. I default to shooting as much as i can first.
Kiting is boring and only prolong the game generally

[mortal granite]

well, i have to shoot, since it's boring to kite

[obtuse cedar]

Guns are so busted now.. if you know basic dodging you should be able to clear most stuff in the game solo

[mortal granite]

and then i forced to kite since their messes were too much to just shoot

"if you know basic dodging you should be able to clear"

teammate woke up a tank

[obtuse cedar]

Find elevation. You can solo a tank

[mortal granite]

yes i can

and i have to do it with other enemy and a scout wave

and that other time when my team go for class X shadow and died

[obtuse cedar]

You can park a tank because bad AI though

You don't need to Fully park it.

[mortal granite]

you can but you have to deal with other enemy first

so you still have to do a little "dodge"

[obtuse cedar]

The class X shadow alarm is the hardest alarm in this rundown. Not surprising

[atomic escarp]

he's so good, he can kite shadows

[mortal granite]

your pub team also in the background telling you to die because checkpoint

[obtuse cedar]

That is their mentality

Proove them wrong

[mortal granite]

prove them wrong, and when you revive them

they killed themself

very fun

[obtuse cedar]

Then you are playing with loss causes

The cancer that checkpoint brought

[tame cloak]

the experience of pubs when starting the rundown compared to the experience after 300h is... it's interesting for sure

[obtuse cedar]

Wait until you pass the 1000 hours

It changes again

[tame cloak]

Yeah I guess

[obtuse cedar]

Pubs over complexify everything

[tame cloak]

I've played with a few 1000+ hours people and once again the skill gap is quite huge, I just follow and make sure not to fuck up

I might have 300h already but it's just R7 experience with a little bit of R2, put me on content I've never seen and I might start tripping on C tiers

[obtuse cedar]

Pubs that ask if you did the level before. Some just want to have carries. Other because they want to lead.

And to them the best answer you can give them is a passive "don't worry about it"

Or "i am here for the ride"

[atomic escarp]

i am here for the ride

[mortal granite]

anyway

i wish the checkpoint bug would happen and end this shit fest

and it did happen

the checkpoint bug happen and killed the run

[obtuse cedar]

Almost like the cancer mentality relies on a mechanic that is not working properly

Maybe they hope the game bug in a way to make it easier like r6c3

RIP that level.

[mortal granite]

"can you die my dude so we can checkpoint?"

get checkpoint, start door cheesing

too many enemy on the door and they somehow died

too many enemy and combine with checkpoint killed the run

[obtuse cedar]

If they door cheese you just have to fuck their setup on every door

[mortal granite]

i did that on the previous group

they instantly killed everyone and restart

very fun experience that was

[obtuse cedar]

I would flame them for it

[tame cloak]

what kind of pubs are you going to

mm to lfg ?

[mortal granite]

lfg

[tame cloak]

I swear this shit never happens to me

[mortal granite]

since it's D1 overload

[tame cloak]

it's like once in a million

[mortal granite]

everyone hate D1 overload

i was just trying to help out

[tame cloak]

might be region issue idk

[mortal granite]

seem like they don't need it

[mortal granite]

timezone

2AM NA

make it 3AM

it's like curse hour or something

[obtuse cedar]

D1 overload with pubs is just asking for trouble... Especially since you know most of them got carried there to begin with

[mortal granite]

i literally help a group beating it without cheese

best experience of our life

[obtuse cedar]

Same with E1 lol. Can't Do the level without cheese

[mortal granite]

was laughing a lot from start to finish

[tame cloak]

Oh the classic 3AM

[mortal granite]

"snatcher's coming, better pull out your spear"

POKE HIS ASS

[tame cloak]

"LFG PUBS, CALLING DAUDA AT 3 AM"

[obtuse cedar]

Those are the pubs that don't care about completion. They generally are the better ones too lol

[mortal granite]

but ye, they need d1 overload and we did it

[obtuse cedar]

If you have a team joking around they generally just want to have fun more then getting that cosmetic

[tame cloak]

I remember doing D1 overload last thinking it was actually the hardest bit, kekw I was so dumb when I learned the first minute how to properly deal with a snatcher solo

[atomic escarp]

i mean

i did an e1 where there's a random striker that woke up scout and pmom and a regular mom

but i managed to get code and ressed all 3 down people and saved the run

i think that's enough to explain that e1 is not hard enough

[obtuse cedar]

"E1"

[mortal granite]

it shouldn't be 1 man solo clutch

but it's hard enough for pub

that's for sure

you should imagine that, instead of you, it was someone else

and they didn't clutch it

[atomic escarp]

why would i

i always take cfoam

highest chance of winning

[obtuse cedar]

It's hard because they get carried in every level.. without realising it

[atomic escarp]

better than someone who checked logs for code 3 and 4

[mortal granite]

i agree that E1 should be harder

[atomic escarp]

and got the rest of the group a free clear

[obtuse cedar]

Heck some of them are dumb enough to believe you when you say that this other random dude carried the run when he didn't

[mortal granite]

misinfo happen a lot

not surprised that there's another one

[real moss]

which results in a weak community on deeper tiers

[obtuse cedar]

If c tier wasnt a tier where an average player would be able to solo carry as easily ...

[atomic escarp]

man i miss r4 and 5 c tiers

[obtuse cedar]

You had to work as a team to get the pe back then yes

Now one person can just solo the level's "difficult" part

[real moss]

this exactly

[dire pelican]

any news for next rundown?

[obtuse cedar]

no

this is getting really old how many people are coming to ask this same question... not faulting the people though

[silent frigate]

Did you check #game-announcements?

[obtuse cedar]

A month old news that doesn't touch about the next rundown

Only talk about old rundowns being reintroduced eventually

[silent frigate]

So thats the answer...

There are no news for the next rundown

[obtuse cedar]

A simple "no" does the same job... Instead of wasting their time

[tough totem]

it's a shame they don't even release news monthly

[silent frigate]

Do you want to answer the same question every Day, instead of teaching them where can they find the answer 🤔

[mortal portal]

Yes

[obtuse cedar]

It's always different people everytime that ask. So you gonna teach Everyone one by one?

[mortal portal]

Because the answer to the question is 2 letters long

I could even make a key bind to respond to the question every day

[silent frigate]

Hahaha thats what he wants

[obtuse cedar]

No what we all want is actual news from the devs

🙂

[mortal portal]

I'm gonna be like those tweets accounts who tweet the answer to a question everyday.

[obtuse cedar]

So people don't ask again

[mortal portal]

Where do I get the Dev Transparency DLC for this game? I can't find it on Steam

[dire pelican]

I mean when can we revisit preview rundown is there a specific time?

[obtuse cedar]

Eventually

They don't want to give dates for anything

[kind swan]

Previous*
but who knows.
We dont even know how they intend to bring them back

As they were back then

Or with gimmicks in R6-R7

Checkpoints and potentially more resources

Because r6-r7 are abundance

[atomic escarp]

r6 was really silly tbh

D1 with 5 checkpoints or something like that

[obtuse cedar]

checkpoint city

[fallow wasp]

I liked the kraken

made my headphones vibrate

[obtuse cedar]

and people still had trouble on it because they never learned anything in previous tiers

[kind swan]

Kraken was nice but add in strikers and etc

Otherwise R6 was meh

[kind swan]

All those who were hard carried

[atomic escarp]

Kraken felt weird to me, like if the concept belonged to another game and it was somehow put in this game after a bit of work was done on it

[obtuse cedar]

always has been a thing.. but people were less hard carried back then

[kind swan]

R6 the hard carry was just abundance because 1.0 advertising and etc

Many many newbs

[fallow wasp]

I vouch for mad max GTFO where one guy is driving a buggy across the dunes and they're being chased by massive biomasses

[kind swan]

Would be cool ngl

But with how gtfo is built

Not likely :c

[stable pivot]

C2 moment

[mortal portal]

I feel like the issue there was giving people instant access to the lower tiers by making them complete 1 level that was significantly easier than the other levels in their respective tier.

[tough totem]

I feel like the bigger issue is there isn't enough 4 player skill checks, you can normally beat a level if 1 or 2 of the players are really good

but then pubs exist, where group skill is random

I think D2 is a good example of the 1 player skill check

[mortal portal]

True, literally one guy doing the dirty work while the others just go pew pew

[tough totem]

1 guy dives fast, while the other 3 only need to know how to shoot a lot of enemies, and how to move backwards

[mortal portal]

Same thing with E1s reactor

That reactor was waaaay too easy for an E tier, getting the codes is pretty simple

[tough totem]

E1 has slightly more co-operation, but also just played a pub last night where they door bugged literally every door

[mortal portal]

The only hard part would be the last wave of chargers, cause new peeps usually struggle to kill a wave of chargers, and the last code I guess, if something goes wrong.

Also no surge alarms

[tough totem]

fr there should've been harder alarms

T S scan when?

moving purple scan could provide a skill check

[mortal portal]

I liked the way things were back then

But meh, what can we do about it, right?

[tough totem]

literally nothing

dev team doesn't seem to listen too much

[mortal portal]

The community according to the devs be like:

• Bug hunters
• Content creators
• New players

[tough totem]

real

I think the last time they "listened" to players, it was the booster sound being too loud

I didn't hear it like that but whatev's

[mortal portal]

I've heard a rumor that in order to be accepted as a bug hunter you gotta have less than 100 hours in the game

Not sure if it's true, but if it is that would be hilarious

[tough totem]

there's no shot

[mortal portal]

I heard a rumor of some guy not being accepted as bug hunter having 400 hours, so he made a smurf account with 40 hours and got accepted immediately

But I don't know if that's true

[tough totem]

are bug hunter apps still available?

now I'm curious...

[mortal portal]

Not at the moment as far as I'm aware.

They usually do that when a new update is announced.

But last time they decided to hold back on that.

[tough totem]

if it is true I think it's bc the player would probably know the community and their stance
I know there was a long video a while ago about some big community person leaving the community, and the mentioned all the cons of the dev team and all that

still strange why 100 hours would be the cap, but ig people would just know too much beyond that point

[mortal portal]

I guess

[tough totem]

idk. I really had to stretch the idea in my mind and idk how to get it across through text

basically backwards thinking?

[mortal portal]

What do you mean?

[tough totem]

like I don't really see how the devs think in most of their decisions

I'm just making a guess at what's going on in the mind of a 10cc dev

[mortal portal]

I think they're probably accepting positive feedback.

As most of the time I see them going defensive when someone criticizes the game.

[tough totem]

stamina moment

[mortal portal]

Also apparently we're not allowed to publicly share our disagreement with the way the game is going in a civil manner, as someone will eventually pop up saying that "People always complain and complain"

It's not like we're here to act as the messiah and say "this is the way to do stuff", it's just sharing opinions, ya know.

[tough totem]

but also some criticism should just be accepted sometimes

[mortal portal]

Even destructive criticism can be good sometimes. If you look past the negativity

[tough totem]

the bug complaints have been non-stop, and every update is geared towards new junk

[wispy anvil]

Was it the one from RealKhepri?

[tough totem]

that's the specific on o was talking abt, just don't any smoke from the devs or admins

[mortal portal]

I liked when there was more than one A tier

You would give the new players more time to learn the ropes before going into a more difficult tier

[tough totem]

I miss when the game was a bunch of big enemies for added difficulty instead of spawncap smalls

I'm pretty sure there was a level with an error alarm of bug chargers, and you had to go into a big charger zone to do an objective

I feel like the larger enemies add a scarier vibe, as well as are an added challenge for their increased dmg, range, and decreased solo-ability

[mortal portal]

I feel like B3PE should be the kind of B tier difficulty (when going for optional objectives of course)

B1 feels like an A2, B2 is like the mandatory long and tedious level that doesn add anything interesting.

[tough totem]

B3 PE is a good a solid difficulty for its position

B2 is terrible, and C2 I don't find any fun bc max infection for PE

[mortal portal]

C2 is pretty meh in my opinion.

Secondary definitely makes the level a bit more enjoyable, but that's about it.

Overload is pretty easy, as long as you don't mess up the stealth

C3 PE is probably the best level.

Feel like an actual C tier, even D tier

[tough totem]

yeah I find C3 PE to be a pretty enjoyable level

pubs seems to have an issue with it tho

[mortal portal]

D1 is easy at best, D2 is the mandatory fun pew pew level which is pretty nice.

But that makes the D tier too short imo.

And E1, my disappointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined

[tough totem]

could be a bit more difficult if

you know

they fixed all the bugs

still pretty easy tho

for an E tier

[mortal portal]

The reactor is too short as well

Getting the codes is not even hard

[tough totem]

even I could do it, and I'm bad at games

[mortal portal]

1 person could do that no problem, while the others shoot the waves

I'd say R6D3's reactor was a lot harder than this

[tough totem]

if they fixed all the cheese spots, fixed the room scan before teleport, and made reactor harder, the level would be worth E tier

maybe

[mortal portal]

I feel like the first mistake was adding the Pablo at the beginning

[tough totem]

I think it'd be harder during PE, otherwise it wasn't too bad

[tough totem]

making Pablo a tank instead of its own enemy was the first mistake

plus it's ai is so wack

bro just stands there half the time

[mortal portal]

Considering that the Tank AI is buggy as hell

I really hope they consider re-designing that enemy for the next update

[tough totem]

I pray

maybe give shadows their own models too?

[mortal portal]

I think shadows are okay, but I wouldn't mind that too.

Maybe give the charger Scout its own sound?

Like a low pitched scout noise

[tough totem]

that bits more QoL, fix the bugs first

[mortal portal]

And a spooky ghosty sound for the shadow scout

[tough totem]

yeah maybe

anyways I gotta head to bed

good talk tho

[mortal portal]

Okie dokie!

Have a good night then buddy!

Watch for monsters under your bed!

[tough totem]

the space under my bed couldn't fit flat Stanley, but thanks

have a good day

[mortal portal]

Likewise!

[sly lichen]

Where new updates😭😭

[tough totem]

never happening

[atomic escarp]

me getting all e1 codes with no issue even on 200+ ping

[tough totem]

me memorizing all seeds so i don't need to get codes

[atomic escarp]

it's ok just read gamelogs

and doorbug for the "speedrun"

[obtuse surge]

if pugs keep calling any sort of fast clearing a speedrun why not make it an actual speedrun :))

[tough totem]

I had a pub where they doorbugged literally every door on E1

it was gross

and boring

they were like "mothers are so scary, they can spawn babies through doors"

door bug crutch moment

[robust marsh]

please tell me you killed that team at the end and left

[atomic escarp]

classic case of it's ok when I do it

not when you do it

[tough totem]

ok but i don't do it

nor do i like when people do do it

esp multiple times

door cheese is dumb bc it's literally a free clear if done even once on E1

cheese spots and kiting however i'm ok with because kiting has had "prevention" and i still doable, and cheese spots exist because of how the devs have player movement

if they had players fall off steep slopes that'd be fixed

big preesh on assuming i abuse bugs to win tho, don't think we've ever played together

[atomic escarp]

and it will stay that way

[tough totem]

#blessed

[atomic escarp]

indeed a blessing for me

[obtuse surge]

im dropping into E1 with marker

what could go wrong

[autumn zinc]

A whole C3

The level that requires teamwork and synchronization

Became a joke

|| I am not going to say that i failed thousands of time ong this map before i attached 3 melee booster and completed the level in the same time without any replay ||

[atomic escarp]

this is why boosters are a great example of a failure in game design/balancing

but i have seen two players that can't even kill hybrids in one occi hit with full melee dmg when i can consistently two occi them as host and clients

so that also proves that crutches can't help bad players

[real moss]

For some Boosters are so important that they farm them. Imagine farming Boosters cause you are convinced you can't finish a level without them !!!!!!

[atomic escarp]

i am convinced some people can't beat e1 without boosters

which is very odd because i got like 3 lfg e1 clears without provisions and only throwaway boosters

maybe lfg isn't so bad

[real moss]

I haven't used Boosters since R5 so imo anything can be cleared without them

[atomic escarp]

ok but i'm talking about some people

are you those some people

:^)

[real moss]

I get that they can be usefull but sometimes people take it to the other extremes

[real moss]

No plz no

[atomic escarp]

exactly

[real moss]

No 15 hour C1 run for me 😅

[autumn zinc]

Well, there is a booster that can make you immune to infection, that is a real failure on the game design

Imagine 99% immune to infection

[real moss]

Oh we had a guy running 123% infection resist on R5B2. He could walk in infectious fog unharmed

[atomic escarp]

well yes some of the boosters neglect certain game mechanics

those are genuinely questionable

[real moss]

Or even 130% health regen

[autumn zinc]

Just a aggressive booster that is 99% infection resist and default 10%

[real moss]

No wonder some still go back to get some R5 boosters

Those were the most broken

[atomic escarp]

debatable

[real moss]

well R5 had the booster that gave more meds, tool AND ammo iirc

[atomic escarp]

med efficiency doesn't really matter, what you want is mainly supply efficiency

[real moss]

And I think like higher percentages on them as well.

[atomic escarp]

if anything terminal use and old melee dmg booster was more broken

the % didn't change i'm pretty sure

[autumn zinc]

I saw a guy with 7x% melee resist and big guy puch him with 10 damage

[atomic escarp]

it was always between 80-99%

and 40-49% for agg provision

[real moss]

Could be but I remember my 154% booster

[atomic escarp]

i still have my r5 +49% med and supply efficiency

[real moss]

This wasn't an efficiency btw

[atomic escarp]

if it's 100+ then it's probably regen speed

[real moss]

But as I never use them, I don't really compared them

[autumn zinc]

Why dev said that this game for hardcore player when they make the game easier with booster and checkpoint lmao

[atomic escarp]

boosters are funny yes

i remember running r5c3 with sentry cpu speed and cfoam portion

we didn't shoot a single scan until the class 7 mixed

[tame cloak]

speaking of boosters DjDna, still haven't done E1 boosterless but I have 3 completions in total and the last two were without anyone with supp-effi, and my last run was memey with glowstick power and -40% hacking shit

[real moss]

Hmmmm ok you get a pass

[tame cloak]

I want a proper pass tho, will work on that later

I got other gtfo stuff in my hands right now so that'll take a while

[real moss]

Uuuuh ok, spare us details

[tame cloak]

no it's not cfoam it's about the m word

[real moss]

I don't play E1 that much cause it is kind of boring 😬

[tame cloak]

I like the reactor a lot

used to hate it until I was the one taking foam/tracker

[atomic escarp]

i didn't care that much i'm always cfoam

[real moss]

Oh I love reactors but the part to get to it is snooze town and it is sadly the only one in this rundown

[atomic escarp]

r3a3 was unironically a harder reactor

[real moss]

R3A3 was legit super ez what you on about 😅

R5B1ovl was way harder

[atomic escarp]

how

[plush basin]

new thing bad. Bring back the old GTFO

[atomic escarp]

i did it matchmaking and none of us had hel weapons

sawn off revolver, combat and machine gun

[real moss]

You can not say R3A3 was hard, come on

[atomic escarp]

it was harder

[olive shoal]

are we talking in general or in matchmaking

[real moss]

In general

[olive shoal]

cause I found both not too bad but I never did them with randoms

[real moss]

Nah I don't see it, that reactor was super easy

I would pick R4B1sec or R5B1ovl above them personally

[atomic escarp]

i also don't see r7e1 reactor that hard, if it wasn't for tight codes, you can honestly solo the entire reactor

[real moss]

Oh R7E1 is not a hard reactor, we have seen worse

R2D2 (May the force be with you)

[olive shoal]

what would you guys say the hardest reactor is then

[atomic escarp]

it's not that hard

every wave has more or less the same wave size

if you can kill one, you can kill the other 9

[real moss]

fair

[plush basin]

I never did it myself but I imagine R4E1Ex was probably up there?

[olive shoal]

that one came to mind

[atomic escarp]

if you can shoot 24 enemies, you can solo r4e1 reactor

[real moss]

R4E1ex, R5D2

[atomic escarp]

r5d2 is also soloable

[real moss]

Yes but compared to all the other reactors

It is certainly in the higher tier

[atomic escarp]

it only had 3 waves

and you can even hammer the 3rd one with 3 people

[plush basin]

But R3A3 is hard yes?

[atomic escarp]

yes

very

[plush basin]

lol

okay

[real moss]

Ok ok so what is the hardest in your opinion?

[atomic escarp]

i have no opinion

[real moss]

Fair enough

[plush basin]

No opinion just being contrarian and flexing 🙃

[atomic escarp]

they're hard but nothing is hard enough

i just want to play legacy in r5 engine

[real moss]

seems so

[real moss]

Just play R5

[olive shoal]

they’ve probably done that a thousand times already lol

[real moss]

Probably

[atomic escarp]

it's only a flex if you can't cope

[real moss]

I actually agree that reactors are not the hardest objectives to have

[olive shoal]

I imagine most stuff in this game is soloable without cheese if you’re good enough

[atomic escarp]

the amount of kiting is in relative to your gun skill

[olive shoal]

yes

[atomic escarp]

that's how i soloed r4b3ovl s1 scans without kiting

i just shoot harder

[olive shoal]

those scans are very funny

[real moss]

pew pew more

[atomic escarp]

i love holding for 2 mins because of the incredible scaling speed

[olive shoal]

thank you 10 chambers

[atomic escarp]

you're almost fighting a surge

but even surges can be solo held if you're based

[olive shoal]

I aspire to be that good

[atomic escarp]

same

i can't wait for old rundowns to come back and people dying randomly in r4 and 5 expeditions because of over reliance on kiting

[olive shoal]

yup

[atomic escarp]

r4 and 5 is balanced around kiting 😭

[real moss]

It won't be that bad, checkpoints will compensate for that

😭

[atomic escarp]

yea checkpoint will exist but it doesn't directly affect the actual difficulty of the level

To be also fair, bots are usually decent enough at gunning down stuff

you still have to do the surge scans or whatever

[olive shoal]

I mean r4 had hel revolver and burst cannon so idk how people needed to kite that much

[real moss]

Ofc

[atomic escarp]

unless it's something like r7c2 gen

or r6c3pe

Which would make error alarms like R4A2 PE probably easier with bots than with some players

😂

I'd argue that the same would be true for R4B2 PE

but they will just shoot an entire mag on the error wave

when i can shoot 2 bullets and kill in 2 seconds

Keep in mind that I'm basing this ONLY on my experience with bots and R7B3 error or R6C3's

No I'm not saying they'd be great, just that I feel like I'd have an easier time playing with them

ok so r4a2 ovl error is a rapid or silent or whatever error you like to call it

it spawns 2 enemies every 20s and there's no scream indicating where they come from

I remember R4B2 PE being a pain because either someone kited the whole wave or everyone was just bad at shooting/hammering

there are no spawn bias for most of the errors in r4

same with r5

[twin dirge]

shoot an entire clip*

[atomic escarp]

true

[olive shoal]

the amount of times waves would spawn in front and start breaking down doors

[atomic escarp]

is fun

[atomic escarp]

especially on R4A2 Overload

[twin dirge]

skill issue is all

[olive shoal]

r5b3 mainly came to mind for me

[atomic escarp]

not that it changed a lot to have 1 scout wave or two

but it was a bit jarring to be punished for something you didn't have much agency on

besides from opening the door right after a wave spawned

it was pretty funny considering it's the first ever ovl

and you are somewhat guaranteed to fight at least 1 scout wave

smile

[olive shoal]

back when I first started I remember scout waves being a lot harder to deal with

But now it feels like nothing

[atomic escarp]

my honest reaction

[olive shoal]

Improving at video game wild like that

I should start soloing missions again honestly

[twin dirge]

me at 20hrs triggering a scout: "doom is coming.. prepare for death"
me at 500hrs: "alright time to use the hammer"

[olive shoal]

Literally

[half hornet]

On one hand I'm sad for wasted ammo... On another I get to actually shoot something. Lord knows there's not enough of that.

I just really like shooting monsters.

[hexed vapor]

Oh hey, the #community-news clip is of R1A1 but w/ HEL Revo.

Same tiles but different markers from the looks of it.

In hindsight, this might have been talked about but I didn't see because massively inactive.

8 days old 💀

[boreal tendon]

Rundown 8: Ancestor

[half hornet]

It literally says it's a prototype. Unless it's a very sneaky leak.

[hexed vapor]

Prototype is on the left, presumably a current version of the game on the right.

[half hornet]

But he said its not a leak 👀

Sneaky Calle

[turbid cliff]

hel rev is the one you notice and not boosters

the weapon parts might have existed back then but i really doubt boosters did

[atomic escarp]

real

[tough totem]

fake

[twin dirge]

is that how guns work?

[hexed vapor]

Long Gun 😳

[atomic escarp]

short gun

[tough totem]

bet it has a great personality tho

[silent frigate]

how to get "the gavel"? D:

[real moss]

Has been removed

[fringe surge]

Gavel Gaming

[distant chasm]

its there just disabled

[real moss]

there are a lot of disabled on this server ....

[distant chasm]

...

wow

[real moss]

?

[silent frigate]

i've seen people with that 🤔

[half hornet]

Those are criminals, report them to the discord mod police immediately 🕵️‍♂️

[silent frigate]

so i want to be another criminal, the gavel is great

so there is no way to get that beauty? u.u

[half hornet]

Not yet, no. Not official, that is.

They'll probably makes them premium skins or something.

I think the reason they had to remove them was because it would be weird if melee sections was populated by 1 dagger, 1 spear, 1 baton and like 4 different kinds of hammers. Would feel very unfair and biased.

So:
A) They intend to implement a skin system one day
B) They intend on creating alternatives to the other 3 melee types as well

C) Both

[kind swan]

Meets Pablo

Kills his twin sons soon after meeting him

[kind swan]

It's nothing personal

[fallow wasp]

They’re gonna have to bury what’s left of him in a soup can

[mossy marsh]

soup can dauda

[teal needle]

anyone know how to enable the air filtration? says enable in terminal but idk how

[deft kiln]

type start then hit tab

if you want to check there is a command on terminals call command @teal needle

[teal needle]

it worked thank u

[marble flume]

anyone got tips for D1 mother

me and my 2 friend trying to get past this level for a month now

[dreamy bramble]

what part

and overload or just main?

[fallow wasp]

If you wanna be cheeky when you’re doing the error alarm you can activate multiple alarms and then deactivate them all at once

[real moss]

Yup makes D1 easy

[atomic escarp]

not like it makes it that much more easier

you only fight 2-3 charger waves anyways

which is a total of around 30 chargers

which translates to around 2 uses of tool + 2 uses of ammo

[real moss]

the error is for the shadow alarm

and you were talking about the room scan ....

mb

[maiden pelican]

gavel gang

[signal pollen]

r7 ext or r8 when??

[tough totem]

literally never

[twin dirge]

as a joke, R7 is the last one

but the devs are trying to finish R8 before the holidays

[tough totem]

i remain doubtful

[twin dirge]

it'll probably have game breaking bugs if 2022 release

[restive oak]

but what's new?

[plush basin]

wdym whats new? New things to expect in R8?

[twin dirge]

mods can we leak the trailer for this dude

[restive oak]

nobody got my question, honestly

so let it die

[tough totem]

no leaks since before R7 sadge

[restive oak]

folks, does anybody know a good level to practice on lots of scouts?

[twin dirge]

idk if R8 would have a good level for that

[restive oak]

talking about R7

so I can get some cheeky practice

[royal lichen]

maybe r7b1 for normals, an alarm and some sleepers to deal with tho .. r7d2 second zone for charger scouts, many of them..

[restive oak]

B1 it is, didn't even open D2 yet 😄

[reef talon]

do D1 key area if you want to practice charger scouts, multiple there

[atomic escarp]

if you wanna cheese, you can literally finish d1 first part with only 5-7 uses of tool and like 2 uses of ammo if you're unlucky with consumable mine, you foam the 2 doors leading to class 4

then you perma foam, then if you really need to buy more time, you foam the doors leading to arena scan

cancel both alarms, either shoot or use a consumable mine for the error + alarm wave

boom d1 first part done and you have 13 uses of ammo, 10 uses of tool at your disposal for class 10 chargers

not to mention there's also the 2 uses of ammo and 3 uses of tool on bridge

and even if you don't wanna cheese, there's enough ammo and tool to shoot up class 4 and arena scan and class 10 chargers

[hallow lark]

There’s some good levels in R7 to practice on… c2 for stealth teamwork for example (the mobs in that level are more sensitive than usual to stealth response)

[royal lichen]

the rooms are packed and a healthy mix of types. imho.

[hallow lark]

Overload of that level is still hell tho

[obtuse cedar]

They are not more responsive. The room is just more dense with enemies... Making it easier to mess up.

Don't make stuff up.

[hallow lark]

I have a different perspective on mobs since I cant hear em (I’m deaf) so I rely more on visual and I thought that it’s unusually sensitive. I’ve been into dense rooms before in R6 and they’re not that sensitive to bonks and whatnot (especially with upper and below bonks in multi-level rooms)

[obtuse cedar]

There is no such thing as "more responsive" variants. It's all the same.

And it is pretty consistant. You can always control what will wake up if you wish to wake something up

That's how you clear stuff that doesn't seem to be clearable solo... You can double kill enemies that are part of a group of 4 without triggering the other 2 if they are not all butt buddies perfectly.

You can long range aggro enemies too if you want to

[obtuse surge]

bug where you can't see them light up properly originally still a thing and very effective on that level specifically

likely even more of an issue for you because you can't hear

so if the game sucks and you also can't see on top of it

i guess things will wake up seemingly for no reason

[hallow lark]

I’m referring to how they’re much more sensitive (or at least how it feels like) whenever someone or I bonk or stealth kill a mob.

The game doesn’t suck at all in of itself. I actually enjoy it in all its glory (cept some certain bugs)

[royal lichen]

"hey w, u got a turbine on your back" .. "que?" 🙂

[candid dragon]

got em with the old superglue on the cargo

[kind swan]

When the prisoner becomes good dad and has Baby on their back

[nocturne flax]

Male chicken and egg torture its a kink

[hallow lark]

Honestly, in this game… It’s fun to do something’s that not supposed to happen.

@royal lichen for him… in his own words… it’s my “Blatant cojones” for me to move around even when the mobs are pulsing

[royal lichen]

for me a "pulsing, dont move" stoppage is often utter dismay as this madman just keeps going. and aces it.

[nocturne flax]

Stick and stones might break your bones but a hcp will kill you- Barack Obama

[kind swan]

Every new player seeing an experienced player walk past a group of sleepers like nothing

Or seeing an experienced player just kill all of them with melee only

[prisma ibex]

there is great joy in learning how to bash heads effectively with a hammer

[kind swan]

I can tell a new player the charge times and positioning they need with hammer.

The problem often is. They havent gotten into the rhythm of walking around sleepers/the fear gets to them

Whereas once I told a friend of mine the charge times and etc. His performance for stealth killing multiple striker/shooters increased almost 3x I'd say

Still the only guy in my group I trust to sync a double hammer hit on a charger scout

[plucky breach]

lmao wtf

[prisma ibex]

syncing charger scout kills are way too advanced for me or any other mammal to do

[obtuse cedar]

just learn the timing.... and realize that host should always be the 2nd one to it to make it a lot easier

if 2 clients... the one with the highest ping should hit first

it makes the sync a lot easier

host always play reactive for sync stuff

[azure reef]

Question. I've heard something akin to a "rumour" where people say that if you max out your stamina to 180+ pulse, and stay there for too long, you start taking damage of 1hp every so often.

I just tested it, and that doesn't happen at all. I stayed in 180-190 pulse for like 5 minutes, no damage. You can even stay in yellow health max pulse after combat ends provide you keep the extertion up, but once you slow down, your pulse will drop and cant then max out.

Any idea where the rumour came from? I have heard a bunch of experienced people say its true, so it makes me think it was a real mechanic at some stage?

[tame cloak]

I've heard about it but never saw it occur, it might just be confirmation bias by adding infection on top of it, or generally due to having little understanding of the stamina system back when it was released

[twin dirge]

gas lighting into thinking maxing stamina causes damage so new players keep moving slow

[real moss]

People say the most stupid stuff.

A big streamer 2 days ago got told that PE entails no dying. By people who have cleared D tier ...... I wanted to tear my eyes out

[atomic escarp]

rumors can be tested by yourself in just a few minutes

[broken scarab]

That is false 🙂

[tame cloak]

well "Prisoner Elitism" completions does require no checkpoint right ?

[atomic escarp]

it's for the extra pe icon

[real moss]

Hahaha if they talked about that than yes but sadly they specifically mentioned prisoner efficiency

[tame cloak]

kekw

oh reminds me, time to check steam forums

[real moss]

don't

[tame cloak]

lemme bleach my eyes

it'll rebirth me anew

[restive oak]

why do you want to hate the world and yourself?

[tame cloak]

I'm bored tbh, I need to escape the hellscape of ||d̸͖̾a̷̫͑t̶̲͌à̸͍b̶̛̲l̷̥̋ö̴̳c̷͔̏k̵̤̋s̵̲͊|| for a bit by diverting my attention to another form of hell

[restive oak]

that cursed spelling of that word

my eyes

[tame cloak]

that went alright tbh

[real moss]

It's quiet lately there

[tame cloak]

yeah I just answered one thing about the group that couldn't finish B1 but still enjoyed the game

Cause no one seemed to have mentioned actual lag desync

not even you

[twin dirge]

I mean patch 3 made a huge fuss about fixing desync

[tame cloak]

it did help "sniper melee"

but they were describing sniper melee level of desync, so it's very likely to be lag

[restive oak]

"sniper melee"?

[tame cloak]

it's a dumb name for a desync issue that got introduced in R6, basically to smoothen enemies' movement for clients, they added a system that gave an average snapshot of where the enemy is, except the average wasn't very on point, so clients would expect enemies to be a lot further than where they were in reality

making enemies seemingly attack you from very far away or around corners

hence "sniper" with melee attack

[restive oak]

bruuuuh

that's why I get my ass licked through walls by strikers?

[tame cloak]

that got "fixed" recently (last patch)

so if you experience something like that and you're a client, you might just be lagging a bit

if you're a host, uh... lmao just play better

it shouldn't happen to hosts

[restive oak]

I'm a client

thing is I feel I have a good ping all the time, nothing really feels delayed

except for those damn wall-ignoring tongues

[mortal granite]

#gtfo-media message

sniper melee is still there, but only when you have massive desync or something

[restive oak]

weird, considering connection is good, but wall-licks are often

[mortal granite]

i do have good connection

but it still really weird

[restive oak]

oh well, just have to prepare my butt for them

🧱

[tame cloak]

this one looks more like you stayed in place on the host's perspective

looks like general desync and not sniper melee

[real moss]

He is a client, he buys clears

[tame cloak]

The little I experienced about sniper melee, the tongue would usually finish it's travel on top of me, not on my previous location

[restive oak]

shh

[azure reef]

Huh, so it seems I am being screwed by desync and just generally bad a dodging tongue attacks

[restive oak]

I actually pay strikers for the... you know

[real moss]

Ok now be quiet.

[restive oak]

idk what you on about 👀

[tame cloak]

👀

[bold widget]

you pay them? just make em do it

[restive oak]

teach me that secret

[quasi citrus]

that looks like desync ngl

[restive oak]

I actually just checked this now - what the fuuuuu

[mortal granite]

yup, desync can create sniper melee

[errant vigil]

Almost why sniper melee should be called desync attack

[mortal granite]

nah man

it's not cool enough

[fresh bronze]

sad im prob not gonna finish this rundown simply cause school and work

not enough days of the week where i can dedicate more than 5 hours to gtfo

[nocturne flax]

Im out of revo ammo

give me sum

lasagna

[errant vigil]

Ok Khepri_224 go play tarkov

[nocturne flax]

#gtfo-media message

wake me up when the game gets an uptdate

https://tenor.com/view/badabing-badaboom-dog-sleeping-raw-chicken-funny-dog-gif-25372089

[mortal granite]

embed fail

[nocturne flax]

laugh at the user

[mortal granite]

destroy the user

[mortal granite]

not finishing a rundown isn't really a bad thing

[fresh bronze]

it is big sad tho

[mortal granite]

just chill and play the game, it's just a game after all

[nocturne flax]

its not like theyre gonna re-add all the previous rundowns too

!

[mortal granite]

[fresh bronze]

i get a lot of hour to 2 hour sections of time where i can do things

sadly never enough time at once for a gtfo game

[nocturne flax]

cant wait for them to copy and paste and not make any changes to the levels that need them!

[kind swan]

Inb4 they now have CPs and too many resources

[mortal granite]

well, if they copy paste stuff

then everything should be the same

[nocturne flax]

lemme guess you actually believe theres no resources in previous rundowns

[kind swan]

Still less regardless

[fresh bronze]

i feel the amount of resources havent changed that much

but ive gotten much much better at shooting and conserving those resources

excluding a few edge cases like b3 pe

[kind swan]

Being good at ammo efficiency you end up having too much in R6-R7

[nocturne flax]

inb4 they re-add all the previous rundowns and game becomes 40+gb

then skins and more cosmetics and another 50gb+

[kind swan]

It's gonna be more like 70+

[nocturne flax]

kf2 moment

payday 2 moment

[kind swan]

That's if they included all rundowns at once.

[fresh bronze]

if the game gets over 20gb i prob wont play it anymore tbh

[kind swan]

In which they havent even stated how they'll release the older rundowns yet

[nocturne flax]

nah they just gotta read some rooms and tell they system that builds the levels to use room in x way to generate them

its not gonna be that heavy tbh

[errant vigil]

R5E1 actually has more ammo than R7E1

Therefore R5E1 easier

[kind swan]

shrugs. I've heard a lot of things about R7E1 having slim ammo

But I figured it came down to map knowledge/how the level goes and etc.

[errant vigil]

Damn that do be every level

[mortal granite]

knowledge is power

but with gtfo, you get too much power

[obtuse cedar]

there is a LOT MORE shooting in r5e1 though 🙂

compare with r7e1 where sniper sentries just kill 70% of total enemies during shooting parts

[errant vigil]

Nope more ammo in R5E1, your point is null

[prisma ibex]

imagine playing r5

[obtuse cedar]

the map is also bigger then r7e1 by quite a bit...

r7e1 is so small D:

even the zones for codes are small

it's kinda pathetic

the most room the biggest zone has is 3 🤣

[nocturne flax]

you talking like r5e1 wasnt a chore to play

[obtuse cedar]

4 if you count the room divider with from the empty zone between respawns zones and reactor lol

r5e1 is a lot more fun

[nocturne flax]

true

but damn if it wasnt long

[obtuse cedar]

level could be beaten in 30 min 🙂

[nocturne flax]

Imagine skips

go trough the shadow zone like you should!

wachu mean you dont like waiting for scouts

[obtuse cedar]

even the normal run is about the same length as r4e1 extreme... which is fair when you don't have an extreme

but r7e1 is just "drag everything to a slow" to make everything last longer

[nocturne flax]

#gtfo-media message

I cant image

[broken scarab]

😎

[restive oak]

Soon ™️