gtfo-speed-running

[placid marten]

We went from read

To pink

so next is uuuh

idk

[warm oak]

blue?

[placid marten]

what comes after pink

[urban nest]

blue is mod

[misty veldt]

Green

[old trench]

piss yellow

[placid marten]

Admin colour

[urban nest]

ngl

[warm oak]

oh, wiips

[urban nest]

they should swap pink and red

[warm oak]

get wr = mod priviliges

surely

[urban nest]

and every added role shouldn't be the best one

[placid marten]

ah yes

[old trench]

[placid marten]

where are my stacked mod priviliges

[warm oak]

you should be server owner, ngl

[urban nest]

wait

no one has green !

surely it's green next time !

[old trench]

Who are even you, you don't even show up on member list.

[placid marten]

Neon or dull?

[old trench]

Alex is higher than you

[urban nest]

both are fine imo

[placid marten]

Its actually kinda interesting that these roles show up on the right but creators dont

[urban nest]

prob a neon angle

dull is not bad but it's too dark prob

[placid marten]

likely

also @sullen silo

Are you seriously adding spaces to peoples names?

[old trench]

Took you long enough

[urban nest]

not to mine

I'm winning

[old trench]

are you shore

[urban nest]

yea

[old trench]

Cause I'm washed up

[candid jackal]

i did not touch my name at all

can't have been me

[placid marten]

I genuinely dont like it

[urban nest]

admin abuse !!

[urban nest]

u still have 2 spaces

or am I tripping

[old trench]

Ye there's 2 spaces

[placid marten]

theres a reason I only changed my pfp 2 times in the last 2 years (or 12 if you want to count that far back even)

[candid jackal]

what is to be will be

[urban nest]

fair

[candid jackal]

i do not fight the universe, i go along with the exertion of its will

[sullen silo]

I will make sure to tell whoever is adding these spaces to names to not do it to yours

[oblique lotus]

we took over 10 hr sadge

[old trench]

Doing it to all other chatters with whom Eva will be having beef live is gonna be driving him nuts tho

[urban nest]

i mean w having a cell skipper on a team

[warm oak]

and you're giving me shit when i just pub -_-

[urban nest]

u were playing w chill for 3 hours

and u didn't even get a run

erm nerm

[old trench]

It took Alex and Leo 2.5 hours to get sub 25

[urban nest]

is leo washed?

or na

[old trench]

He's mental

[urban nest]

beer? 🍺

[old trench]

no

[urban nest]

rip

[old trench]

No rly just go check his VOD to what he was playing on background

#1365101532630224968 message

[placid marten]

?

[urban nest]

oh i rmb

[old trench]

dw about it

[placid marten]

Can we ban this guy?

[old trench]

Who?

[placid marten]

I think they are a maid

Thats angry

[old trench]

huh?

Oh wait

[placid marten]

No longer THE AngryMaid

Just Angry Maid

[fallen zealot]

he's giving you shit cause you were saying if you had a proper team you'd get it "easily"

i think that's his issue

[placid marten]

well sub 20 is considerably easier than sub 11

(Far less rng dependant for sure)

and needs a lot less optimization

[warm oak]

i mean, i don't see how that's untrue. if you have a proper team you get better comms and flow + you can do stuff like role assignment which is better for practice

[old trench]

there's no role assignment you just shoot

[urban nest]

better comms

maybe

wtf is flow

[fallen zealot]

like

idk

this convo's scuffed

[urban nest]

??

[old trench]

#gtfo-speed-running message

[urban nest]

if ure locked in it's enough

[warm oak]

i mean someone who does c-foam, someone who does bio. i switch here and there but if you get used to doing a specific thing it def becomes easier

[urban nest]

everything is free

except sometimes mines cuz u can do bunch of things

[old trench]

idk if you need role separation to get to use your tool

there's something wrong with you idk

[warm oak]

i'm not saying you need it

i'm saying it's a factor

[urban nest]

nah

[warm oak]

there's no simple "loose cuz bad"

[urban nest]

u get told once what to do with any tool

and u don't need rest

[old trench]

Yes

That

[urban nest]

it's really not that hard

u foam if everything goes bad on like 3 occasions

u bio 2 rooms and scouts

mines actually kinda involve thinking but no one really does that outside of chill

so

idk when I see no pings in mom room

it's kinda sus

[oblique lotus]

really sus

[urban nest]

or when mom is alive 3 times in a row

[oblique lotus]

like 3 times in a row

[placid marten]

Eh bio is honestly the most consistently active tool

[urban nest]

^

[placid marten]

Cfoam and mines barely do shit tho ngl

[urban nest]

i mean they don't run only split

so it's kinda aight

[placid marten]

ah

[urban nest]

ye

or it's more like they don't run split

[warm oak]

i don't think i've tried split yet

[placid marten]

ye in split mines/foam are
1st alarm
Last alarm

And maybe some mining for tank zone or class 3 alarm (or hub pulls)

Split is also where roles matter a bit more

[urban nest]

u want bio on both ends ig

and it's prob mines in foam out

[placid marten]

Dont rly want smth like hel rifle with bio and foam going into tank

[urban nest]

ngl

I think hel rifle is good for charger zone

[placid marten]

Its ok

[urban nest]

u get a slow tank but u clear much easier

[placid marten]

Hel rifle is only better vs chargers

Which are rarely the issue

[urban nest]

mm

[warm oak]

isn't 2 scatter better for pushing later?

[urban nest]

nah

[warm oak]

or maybe hel-rifle for scouts

[urban nest]

^

[warm oak]

yeah, fair

[placid marten]

ngl

if you have cell moved up enough

[urban nest]

it's still just a 2 scatter angle

[placid marten]

Then scouts dont matter

[urban nest]

yeah

[warm oak]

ig it depends on how fast the tank room scan goes

[urban nest]

what if u get a front scout wave

[placid marten]

Im happy we can finally run again with full squad tmrw

2nd time woooh

[urban nest]

w

[old trench]

[urban nest]

do u enjoy ur runs?

[placid marten]

You cant rly get a scout trigger after alarm has started xD

2 rooms away means youd need door break alert

[placid marten]

Hm?

[placid marten]

You know what I mean

[urban nest]

like just in general

is it enjoyable to play

[placid marten]

the level?
The team?

[urban nest]

the level

[old trench]

I'm always there to play

And never get called

smh my head

[urban nest]

oh u mean that yeah

[warm oak]

also, this. basically how well the team cooperates. there's small things like someone covering for you when you're trying to get key which seems obvious but sometimes isn't done automatically and you have to ask for it

[urban nest]

it's a skill issue

ngl

[old trench]

Y know it doesn't cost you anything to... just ask

[urban nest]

for every high end vet it's automatic so

like if I see that I shoot that 100/100

[warm oak]

which is my whole point :P

[placid marten]

r5e1 run itself is fun
Feels easier than It felt like it got made out to be tho, but is very nice to run overall. Def a good speedrun lvl

I find everything until giant zone boring ish personally. But after its fun

[urban nest]

it's very fair

error is when the fun starts

[old trench]

so literally key grab and first surge, i.e. the start of the level

[warm oak]

it does. it can cost time

[urban nest]

find better players kek

[placid marten]

Thats funny coming from you

[warm oak]

i am asking for that if it's needed btw

don't misunderstand

but if it becomes automatic, it's much more efficient

[old trench]

Huh

[urban nest]

the point is kinda sus

[warm oak]

i'm fucking trying 😭

[urban nest]

even if ure alone at key it's filly shootable

[placid marten]

Reminder to earlier convo in call

[urban nest]

both keys

[warm oak]

but i'm not regular enough to have a team ready

[old trench]

I don't think those things are related tho

[placid marten]

Tbf theres rly only 2 „teams“ Id say

[warm oak]

it's not specifically just that scenario, it was an example

[placid marten]

everything else is mixups

[urban nest]

in general or running r5e1?

[warm oak]

r5e1 i'm assuming

[placid marten]

I guess you could add savis team? @old trench would know best whether that counts

[urban nest]

cuz in general we have two teams kek

[warm oak]

fog has a team

you could say

[urban nest]

they mix up players

pretty often afaik

[urban nest]

na

[placid marten]

Like actual „teams“

Not groups made up of players

[urban nest]

they have 3 plus pub usually

[urban nest]

i mean ye

[placid marten]

Like theres always people swapping in and out

[urban nest]

its urs and cell skippers

[old trench]

Me not trying to assemble a group is me being burnt out from 7 years of organizing D&D sessions for everyone in my friendgroup to the point where I said "Fuck it. Not gonna put in any work into organizing other people"

[warm oak]

I thought lakana was consistently their 4th together with Star and someone else

at least for like the past week or so

[urban nest]

that someone else is a filling

or star is a filling

[placid marten]

Me with ark

[urban nest]

one of those

[placid marten]

Plan a boss raid for 5 hours

[urban nest]

even I have a team now !

[placid marten]

1 person out of 5 shows up

[urban nest]

but we all have sub 20's so not running

[warm oak]

and zed

[placid marten]

You gotta build a team by forcin people in more than they thought

Then run other stuff with them

Get them hooked

[old trench]

Savi is participating in some sort of SRC wide competition so out of question

[warm oak]

i don't have time for building a consistent team. i have irl :d

[old trench]

He's speedruning Dusk rn

[urban nest]

i do too

it's really not that hard just ask bunch of peeps

[placid marten]

Me: litteraly working on my thesis

[pine shoal]

Just find 2-3 people who want to suffer like you and either a 4th random or an established person who's willing to run with you

[warm oak]

ok, i'll just ask this random guy

@urban nest

let's run r5e1

[old trench]

lmao

[urban nest]

i have a te

am

!!

[warm oak]

damn, that's crazy :d

[placid marten]

Ive ran with hafumi

And 1 time with actual team

Oh well and that 1 short bit with lakana, star and co

[old trench]

[urban nest]

17 with hafumi is crazy

[placid marten]

I was about to run with maid, alex n co

But food

[urban nest]

did u just split and carry

[old trench]

They had to carry tgb

[urban nest]

na tgb is prob fine

[old trench]

Skill issue with aim

[placid marten]

Facts

[urban nest]

u just send him for a cell grab

ezpz

[placid marten]

but nah was fine

We had funny throw moments

And funny hafumi moments

[old trench]

We still can

[urban nest]

that's inevitable

both

[placid marten]

Goated was her running AWAY from tank sec door side of mom room

[placid marten]

Not rn

[oblique lotus]

star is one of our pub gang, he's not filling💀

[warm oak]

idk, everyone competent i'm at least vaguely familiar alrd has a team it seems

[old trench]

Ye I know not rn

But

[warm oak]

or someone i'm not that familiar with

[urban nest]

not really

u could ask Beth for a tour guide I bet

[pine shoal]

Just ask, people are usually willing (outside sky)

[urban nest]

^

I'm just a dick in the end of the day we all know that

😎

[warm oak]

bro, it blocked it even tho i escape char

@ everyone

[old trench]

The question is now if you are with or without balls

[urban nest]

i am

source trust me bro

[old trench]

Fair

[warm oak]

@jade quest you down to cs?

[old trench]

Source: I made the fuck up

[pine shoal]

Ram has work in a bit

[placid marten]

Ngl
That run was legit a mess

Up to error start: solid but not good due to giant zone
Error: oof (massive fumble before mom zoneh
Mom zone: bad downs
Tank zone and cell was pretty clean
Hub zone: we wasted so much time on small room. It was crazy

[candid jackal]

now that i'm done with the academic year (allegedly) i could probably do more runs

[placid marten]

allegedly

[candid jackal]

whether i want to, that's another matter entirely

i am not great to run with

[warm oak]

how much?

i'm kinda poor

[placid marten]

Thats debatable

[urban nest]

ngl

if charger goes well

run goes pretty crazy

[candid jackal]

okay yes i have the best EU host of any speedrunner

[placid marten]

deadpan goat strikes up the mood

[pine shoal]

2nd biggest lie ever told

[urban nest]

and split itself is just very fast

[old trench]

Fuck sensetivity settings in gtfo

[placid marten]

Tbf with tgb degrading to meh host thats not rly an accomplishment anymore

[urban nest]

og r4e1 lf1?

[misty veldt]

In the R5E1 runs for this competition ive managed to catch on stream/watched it doesnt seem cell skip has fog repellers being necessary; which speedruns pretty much mandate at least some repellers?

[urban nest]

na

u don't need any

[candid jackal]

in a lot of speedruns you can just sorta

eat shit

[warm oak]

you never go into the fog

[candid jackal]

and suffer

[ancient charm]

Idk if there are any mandated repellers

[warm oak]

past 2nd zone

[ancient charm]

They help in some other levels

[candid jackal]

the question is what speedruns want you to use repellers

[urban nest]

the only time u actually want reps

is if a surge scan is up the stairs

then sure

[old trench]

There's no need cause you only go through single fog zone and you already from start full infection

[candid jackal]

i mean like you use some in r2d2, probably some other levels

[placid marten]

I went into cconsole with frosty to get a feel for it on the day we ran first time

(The last wipe we had in charger was error spawning in me placing a mine LOL)

[urban nest]

even then it doesn't matter too much

[misty veldt]

like R2E1 first error surge huh

[urban nest]

that's so based actually

[warm oak]

yeah, surge upstairs is not a big deal most of the time

with 2 bio

[urban nest]

it's like

[warm oak]

you can just go down after

[urban nest]

whenever u eat infection

[placid marten]

„Mandate“ is a rough word

[urban nest]

ur above 15 anyway

so it doesn't matter

and when u are at 15 there's no fog

so no need for reps

[placid marten]

This will take a second

Im typing up an answer

[urban nest]

like if everything goes well and assuming ur not taking damage

[candid jackal]

probably not now, nor tomorrow

[misty veldt]

“Just don’t get hit when below 12%”

[candid jackal]

weather is much too hot

[urban nest]

ur at 40 by start of error

[urban nest]

i was jk dw

I'm pretty busy tmr/the day after anw

[candid jackal]

oh thank god for that

[urban nest]

ye dw

[candid jackal]

lf1 og r4e1 duo right now/tomorrow

[misty veldt]

I figured, because fog isnt lethal, was just wondering if there was something like a route where theres multiple heavy objects and having significant amounts of health vs just taking the infect is better for optimal runs

[urban nest]

LMAO

just say u hate me 😔

[old trench]

you don't take infect anywhere after 1st surge !??!?!?

[candid jackal]

nah, that's too easy

[urban nest]

u want reps in r4e1

[candid jackal]

in r4e1 speeds you never get to loot reps

[ancient charm]

Ik they can be nice in r3d1

[candid jackal]

and the question isn't about r5e1

[pine shoal]

Just 1 object you need and fog is not an issue after getting the key

[candid jackal]

it's about other levels

[urban nest]

^

[candid jackal]

THE QUESTION ISN'T ABOUT R5E1 AAAAAAAAAA

[urban nest]

goat crash out

wasn't on my bingo board

[misty veldt]

Like R5E1 normal route you really want repellers

[urban nest]

it's not a speed route tho

[old trench]

which levels in speedrun require fog reps

Why the initial message from Ghostly was harder for me to parse lmao

[placid marten]

Speedruns of the top of my head where fog repellers have pretty strong impact:

R2D1 (basically mandatory)
R2E1 (massively helpful)
R3B2 (massively helpful, pretty much mandatory)
R4C2 (massively helpful for zone 14)
R4C3 (basically mandatory)
R6B2 (massively helpful)
R6D4 (massively helpful)
R6CX (kinda helpful)

[old trench]

How about your fav r4c2

[ancient charm]

iirc R4 B1 also has an extended portion in fog

[candid jackal]

do

people

not

read

[urban nest]

it's literally on the list maid

[ancient charm]

I dont rmr if there are reps in that one or not tho

[urban nest]

LMAO

[old trench]

[old trench]

I though about it before I read it and then I typed message faster than I read again

[urban nest]

me when i do then read

average

[old trench]

Exactly

[placid marten]

Stuff like R2D1, R2E1, R3B2 and R4C3 kinda dont play well without them but shove them into your face at least (or for r2e1 give you some early)

R4C2 is 1 zone, R6B2 is just to make it more chill, R6D4 is shoved into your face but just a bonus
R6CX is hp you dont rly want to lose

[placid marten]

You are in fog for the last minute or so

[ancient charm]

Yea for the one alarm

[warm oak]

is there even a good place you can find them in other than 1st zone in r2e1?

[ancient charm]

And like those few zones

[urban nest]

i mean

if u grab 4 stacks it's enough for the whole level prob

[misty veldt]

Thanks; not just to EVA but others inputs.

I’m trying to understand when environmental hazards are actually well, hazards that pose enough of a threat to factor rather than just send through during speedruns

It’s part of why I have been studying the R5E1 runs, because you already have to deal with so much infect

[warm oak]

yeah, i'm just curious if there's some other consistent spot

[misty veldt]

yet dont need reps

[urban nest]

i feel like fog is more of a

vision issue

than hp

most of the time

[ancient charm]

I mean this is a really stupid answer but it's just doing whatever saves the most time

[urban nest]

and on r5e1 it doesn't have that much impact prob

[ancient charm]

And obviously going down loses quite a bit of time

[misty veldt]

true the fog on R5E1 isnt that dense

you can see through it fairly well enough

[urban nest]

or well if u stay in a fog for a lot of time

u want reps too

[warm oak]

fog is no an issue on r5e1 at all. the infection is

it's a dot on top

[urban nest]

i mean u get 2 dis so

[candid jackal]

i feel that in a lot of places instead of doing an absolute full send, you do a fast send with disaster mitigation

[urban nest]

it's not the end of the world

[placid marten]

To explain for why (in case of speedruns obviously):

R2D1: hp and visibility
R2E1: visibility
R3B2: hp and visibility
R4C2: visibility
R4C3: visibility
R6B2: hp and visibility
R6D4: visibility
R6CX: hp

[warm oak]

yeah but it still hits you for quite a bit before that

it's not like terrible

but it is extra unavoidable dmg

[urban nest]

ure playing whole game on 20 anyway

and 5e1 gives u a bunch of meds really so

the only place where u don't have health is probably hub

[placid marten]

Already max infected
No real in fog sections so hp doesnt drain further either and visibility is fine

[urban nest]

but u have bullets in hub and no big threats really so

well bullets is optional

[warm oak]

hub as in...?

[misty veldt]

yeah i guess it’d be a different story if say charger zone were fogged up

[candid jackal]

hub is big zone where you have to deal with scouts, plug cell, find ammo, do alarm

[ancient charm]

Hub zone is the name of the zone after charger/tank zone

[urban nest]

like

usually u get a med before moms

and u get med before chargers

so it's fine

[warm oak]

in chargers*

but yea

[urban nest]

na

[warm oak]

?

[urban nest]

inside too

but u get 2 meds

[warm oak]

inside mom room?

[urban nest]

from key zone/cell zone

[old trench]

You have a lot of meds

[urban nest]

3 and 4

so ure chilling

[placid marten]

Med prio rly is
Moms >>> ending > tank/charger > burn whenever

[old trench]

giant zone, error zone, cell zone, charger zone

[urban nest]

yea u really want med before mom

[misty veldt]

are the mom spawns static

[old trench]

Yes

[urban nest]

yes

i just realised why chargers always feel so miserable

cuz i never get dis !

ffs

[placid marten]

fair

surviving charger lick is crucial

[urban nest]

yeah

[warm oak]

by "get" do you mean use?

because there's no res in mom room afaik

[urban nest]

u get 2 medipack

3 use

[warm oak]

so i don't see how you would get med before chargers

[urban nest]

and a 4 use

in key and cell zone

or if ure lucky

[placid marten]

best case is you have 6 uses of meds. 2 split for cell hunters pre mom
4 on charger zoners pre mom and you have left over going into tank

[urban nest]

u get one in spawn

and u grab one in giant zone

[warm oak]

yeah, so you just hold like a 4 use for mom and another 3 use for chargers or smth, right?

[placid marten]

Anything above is just extra buffer on top of said buffer

[warm oak]

or vice-versa

[urban nest]

that's ideally yeah

[old trench]

Ye

[urban nest]

usually u get a 4 use before moms

and that's kinda it

or u burn stuff before that

[warm oak]

how much does split strat save again?

like 2 min

[urban nest]

kinda depends what ure comparing

[fast magnet]

Any runners?

[candid jackal]

worth noting: meds for moms is not very important if you are doing chill strat
but split strat you absolutely want those meds for moms

[urban nest]

^

if u compare usual hot and split

I think it's about a minute?

i'm not too sure

split runs feel much faster tho

[warm oak]

hot is D key iirc

[urban nest]

yeah

alarm into cell grab into moms

[placid marten]

you spend time going into cell zone and out

and it doesnt translate into a faster charger zone rly

I didnt rly math out the time for hot strat

[urban nest]

it's probably around a minute I assume

cell walk is like what

40 seconds?

from close D to moms

[placid marten]

but I can tell you that the run from sec door height in pre mom zone, to mom door and back is 30+ seconds

[warm oak]

also, this is a weird question but carrying cell through D and through that small zone is faster than going the chill strat route, is it not?

[urban nest]

it's barely faster

so u just go left all the time

[placid marten]

Path through D is faster by about 0.5-1 sec

[urban nest]

cuz left doors are always open

[warm oak]

yeah, it feels faster but i wasn't sure by how much

[placid marten]

Left also allows to mine the door

[urban nest]

oya

[placid marten]

with a funnel into it

[urban nest]

TAS goes into right

all my homies go left

[warm oak]

to hold error wave while going into mom room?

[placid marten]

Most cell movement time save for optimal strat (split) sadly is just not fucking up lines

[urban nest]

correct

[warm oak]

that's fair

[placid marten]

Well

Error and class 3 wave (if not spawned in D)

[urban nest]

i feel confused

nvm I get it now

[warm oak]

same

[urban nest]

ure splitting tho

ur mine is not killing much prob

I mean it does if it spawns in E

[placid marten]

o.O?

[urban nest]

nvm in C

[warm oak]

i mean, i thought we were specifically talking carrying cell

[urban nest]

the alarm wave?

[placid marten]

they rarely spawn in C

[urban nest]

wasn't it like

[warm oak]

so alarm wave is outdated alrd, no?

[placid marten]

they usually spawn in giant zone

[urban nest]

around 50 for D

[placid marten]

or D

[urban nest]

like 40 for C

[placid marten]

but we rarely get D

[urban nest]

and 10 for giant zone

[placid marten]

somehow

[urban nest]

tru wrote it down somewhere one sec

[placid marten]

10 should be C iirc

[urban nest]

oh

yeah mb

10 is C

still tho ure splitting

giant zone wave should split too no?

[warm oak]

also, kinda related to this. is there a way to rebind jump to mwheel?

[placid marten]

? Why would it

[warm oak]

maybe through a cfg somewhere

[placid marten]

You mine before going into mom

[placid marten]

Would need external stuff

[urban nest]

oh

wait

do u do a team sacn

[warm oak]

so disallowed i assume

[urban nest]

team scan

[warm oak]

sadge

[urban nest]

and then u go?

[placid marten]

I also dont see why you would want to do it

[warm oak]

bhop

cell

[placid marten]

what

[urban nest]

like

[warm oak]

potential time save

[urban nest]

do u do a team scan for alarm

and leave it running

and just go for moms??

[placid marten]

its alarm (finish) -> mom (scan and kill) -> tank (scan) -> split

[urban nest]

ohhhhhhhhh

right

my mind was spoiled by E keys

mb

[placid marten]

Glitched

not allowed

[warm oak]

?!

what

[urban nest]

super jump is allowed

[warm oak]

bhopping with cell is not allowed

wtf

[urban nest]

good morning

eva do u think

[placid marten]

blackhopping is a glitched thing yes

[urban nest]

if someone streams their handcam

and they bhop

it's allowed

[placid marten]

Yea but thats different

[candid jackal]

i hit 3 blackhops and now i'm stuck in dairy queen

[placid marten]

No

[urban nest]

that's lame

[placid marten]

Its banned by rules

[warm oak]

so 1 jump is allowed but more than 1 isn't

[urban nest]

afaik

[placid marten]

with some leniency since they CAN be accidental

But like

[urban nest]

u can still hop

[warm oak]

it's understandable since you can't do it consistently

[urban nest]

but like

if u do it on purpose

[placid marten]

In r5e1 split strat you dont rly drop cell

[urban nest]

and stuff

[candid jackal]

you can absolutely do it consistently

[urban nest]

then it gets pretty suss

[placid marten]

„Consistently“ vs actual consistently

people are hyped when they do 6-7

youd need about 150 in r5e1

[urban nest]

people are hyped when they do 4

[placid marten]

if not more

[jade quest]

nuh uh

[urban nest]

I think they meant 2-3 hops

doing them consistently

[placid marten]

thats why I specified

[urban nest]

ye

[candid jackal]

well, you can build consistency and get quite good at it

[placid marten]

its where it is for a good reason

[urban nest]

ure never realistically hitting more than 5-6

[candid jackal]

but it can still be difficult to do 100% of the time

[urban nest]

and even then it's once in a life time experience

[placid marten]

imagine if you had to fucking reset cuz you lost time on blackhop chaining

fucking

Miserable

[urban nest]

na like

point is

[warm oak]

is there anywhere i can read the exact rules for this. sr.com doesn't seem to have it written anywhere unless i'm blind

[urban nest]

if u do it 2-3 times in one run

it should be fine

it's a dopamine check

[placid marten]

It does..

[candid jackal]

yeah if you're chaining blackhops down the entire length of the M6 you'll get laughed at, but 1 or 2 doesn't sting too bad

[placid marten]

It depends

[candid jackal]

especially in cases where it both gains you and loses you time

[warm oak]

is it on the glitch sheet?

[placid marten]

Yes

[candid jackal]

i.e you go into a wall so you lose a bit of the time you gained

[old trench]

Rules -> Category Rules -> Sheet

[urban nest]

I feel like it never gains u time anyway

or realistically it never gains u time

cuz u never really carry cell the whole way to hub

[placid marten]

The reason why I havent disq. Chill doing like 3 hop chains for reloading while going somewhere

Its not a time save so its fine

Like if you were to hit a 5 chain with cell you either stand still for a sec or run is glitched realistically

[placid marten]

Wat?

[urban nest]

is there a run where u actually carry cell without any drops

or without changing routes/stopping

[placid marten]

actual run? No

but its optimal and certainly doable

[urban nest]

yea so like it doesn't matter

like if u hit 3 hops on cell grab

and u still drop it after anyway

[placid marten]

We had a run where we only dropped cell in small room before gen

[urban nest]

those 3 hops doesn't really make it any faster

[placid marten]

you should never divert path/line

[placid marten]

Its a multisecond advantage

[warm oak]

would it be theoretically faster to do super jump -> drop cell -> super jump again -> drop again if you hit every super jump 🤔

[urban nest]

na

[placid marten]

Nop

[warm oak]

good

[placid marten]

oh btw

Its faster to do smth similar

ONCE

Check out r4c3 run

[warm oak]

yeah

[placid marten]

shortly after turbine pickup

[warm oak]

i saw that

[urban nest]

is it cuz u bhop above smth

[placid marten]

no bhop

[urban nest]

mb

super jump

[placid marten]

check the run

Easier to see than to get explained

(Also is 2am)

[urban nest]

it do be 2 am ye

[warm oak]

i don't remember whose pov tho

[urban nest]

time to get some calories

[placid marten]

it saves 0.5-1 second over other most optimal route

[warm oak]

good idea, i need my lunch

[placid marten]

Mine

you can see frosty do it and me do it off it

[urban nest]

whats composite time rn

[placid marten]

Idk if frostys pov shows me picking it up

[warm oak]

at 7:00

[placid marten]

hasnt rly changed since we havent ran anything new since r8c2

[warm oak]

that one?

[urban nest]

what was it tho

iidr

[placid marten]

Should be

[warm oak]

https://youtu.be/a_UuftFsQyI?t=418

@urban nest ^

[placid marten]

like 17:22 or so

[warm oak]

oh, wait

you mean pe?

[urban nest]

W

how does that drop a turbine on top

kek

[fallen zealot]

where's the drama

[warm oak]

what is this 17:22 about?

[placid marten]

Why exactly? Idk
Tgb found it, we had frosty practice after we experimented

[placid marten]

17h 22min (or so) for all any% wrs

[urban nest]

I assume u drop mid air

[warm oak]

oh, nvm

unrelated

[urban nest]

and it looks for closest ground or smth

and it's the high ground it's taking

[placid marten]

Likely just has the game note that as a valid position when you are high and close enough

[placid marten]

Ya

[urban nest]

yee

[placid marten]

Its kinda neat

[urban nest]

it is

good find

[warm oak]

are you still gonna be available in the next... 3 hours in case someone else wants to run asw?

ping me if you need +1

[fast magnet]

Yes

[restive mirage]

I'm down as well

[urban nest]

hmm

kinda tempting

[warm oak]

oh

[urban nest]

could run 25 prob

[warm oak]

oh oh

[fast magnet]

Cs split

[fast magnet]

Sub 20

[warm oak]

we can try

[urban nest]

ngl the only faith I have is vence here

[warm oak]

what's the Overflow group?

[urban nest]

20 is optimistic

and I don't think we force split

we just do chill/hot the usual

brb 10

[warm oak]

https://discord.com/channels/408196129470152705/1367287617695121441

[oblique lotus]

i have faith in u sky, i trust

[fallen zealot]

i have faith

✝️

[placid marten]

Force split

No balls

[fallen zealot]

he said no balls

you have to do it now

noby go play with chill ! ! !

[urban nest]

they have a full party or smth

[fallen zealot]

sadge

where's my content

where's chill stream chat

we need content ! ! !

[old trench]

I have my stream up

You can join mine

[fallen zealot]

ur not chill ! !!

[old trench]

No

I only have like 30 followers

No one follows me :C

[fallen zealot]

yeah cause you're not chill ! ! !

[fallen zealot]

we need sky crashout stream

[urban nest]

na

i'd never

[old trench]

@urban nest how are runs going

[urban nest]

jukt

[old trench]

join us

We also jukt

[urban nest]

if u give me like 10

i could

[old trench]

Your spot is fixed, Alex just jumped in for single run

after that you come in

[urban nest]

allg

[old trench]

we were definetly cooked

[cloud depot]

u guys got a clear yet?

[old trench]

no lmao

[cloud depot]

no one getting clears today it seems

[old trench]

all of us are cooked

[cloud depot]

smthin like that

i wasnt gaming out but i feel like i was playing mostly OK, but ig it just be one of those days

[old trench]

@urban nest how miserable are you

@oblique lotus wanted to steal your spot

[fallen zealot]

team for some reason

[cloud depot]

he's in a 17 min run, surely he clears

[fallen zealot]

i love how no one is having a good time on runs today

and i find it so amusing

[old trench]

allgood

I stayed up late to have fun

[cloud depot]

+1

its 4:30 am for me rn :p

[urban nest]

cooked

[cloud depot]

rip

[urban nest]

idk man it feels kinda miserable

[cloud depot]

did ya manage 2 get to hub

[urban nest]

we died to surge

[fallen zealot]

just leave

it's just a too tired to run angle

[urban nest]

i gotta get a run !

[fallen zealot]

you're tired!!!

[urban nest]

it is what it is

[fallen zealot]

nahh

[restive mirage]

^ words

[fallen zealot]

watch chill's stream with us

[restive mirage]

nah I need a run

[urban nest]

surely they clear right

[fallen zealot]

uhhh

chat don't tell him

[cloud depot]

what is it with all of you and ur fked up sleep schedules smh

[fallen zealot]

i dont work tomorrow

[urban nest]

wdym

[fallen zealot]

so idk

[urban nest]

i have a day off tmr

[fallen zealot]

also remmy is from america so only time i can play with her is like

midnight to 3 am

[urban nest]

💀

[cloud depot]

timezones moment

[fast magnet]

Fr

[fallen zealot]

real

[cloud depot]

but fair enuf i suppose if u dont have work tmmrow

i will be hittin da sack tho, so gl teams

surely at least one of you gets a run by the time i wake up

[fallen zealot]

gn star

[urban nest]

gn

[urban nest]

we got a runner !

[mellow pike]

any pingers? https://discord.gg/9dfTvrzP

[fast magnet]

Lf1 Cs

[mellow pike]

need 1 gamer

[fallen zealot]

alright i just watched the new r5e1 sub 16 run

chill just said that he likes his meat well done

you're done buddy.

[lilac dust]

I don't get why this is seen as weird

sorry I don't like my meat partially raw

[rustic bridge]

Its harder to make well done meat tender

Also the pink just adds some flavour

I prefer not well done meat because all the times i have it, its not tender at all and lacks flavour

If i accidentall cook my own steak a bit well done then it doesnt matter thought because I actually make sure its tender lmao

[urban nest]

NEED 1 MO https://discord.gg/5Hwp6kzd

[fallen zealot]

how did you silent leave vc star wtf

i didn't even hear you leaving

new tech

[proven canyon]

If y’all want to carry a guy I’m down tbh

[urban nest]

we have a space in a bit

[proven canyon]

W’s

[urban nest]

@proven canyon

[fallen zealot]

@proven canyon hop on

[proven canyon]

ait

[rustic bridge]

gl team

wr coming your way

[lilac dust]

cook it longer then idk

unless you don't have the time or patience for that which is understandable ig

[rustic bridge]

What?

Cook longer = less tender

[sullen silo]

not always

[rustic bridge]

Omg i know

[sullen silo]

it depends on the cut

[rustic bridge]

in general, for a lot of cuts, for most meats

but other methods help it be more tender

[lilac dust]

pressure cooking works pretty well from my experience

[sullen silo]

ok yeah most meat that is cooked on a scale of rare to well done is not made more tender by cooking longer

[lilac dust]

then again that depends on the type of meat you're using and what you wanna cook

[proven canyon]

||not with me||

[rustic bridge]

i believe

[lilac dust]

I ||be||lie||ve||

[delicate flare]

i ||trolled||lieve

[ancient charm]

Well done is diabolical

Medium rare is where it's attt

[lilac dust]

mfw people enjoy things that I don't

crazy

[ancient charm]

Hey I can talk shit for fun

I don't actually care

[lilac dust]

sorry, I don't allow fun

now please apologize for your transgressions

[ancient charm]

Oh ok understandable

My bad @lilac dust

[lilac dust]

apology not accepted

[ancient charm]

😭

[glass cradle]

PREPARE FOR MY ARRIVAL WORM!

(in 1 hour)

[fallen zealot]

w invisible reference

[sullen silo]

urhm, achsually its "stand ready for my arrival worm" 🤓

[proven canyon]

soy get back to doing the forms

[sullen silo]

no

[urban nest]

i watched 2 minutes of moth pov

and i closed it

[pine shoal]

reviewer sky?

[proven canyon]

just yanno

dw about the TKs

[urban nest]

i saw 6 sawed off shots

and 2 scatter shots

[proven canyon]

😭

[urban nest]

and it was 6 misses

and a tk

[proven canyon]

😭

[urban nest]

and then i closed

[placid marten]

no soy gotta practice tetris

[proven canyon]

sky just dont worry about it

[urban nest]

u shot me with sawed off

💀

[proven canyon]

yea so chargers cant go inside of walls

big brains yanno

anyways im very thankful for the carry

(also you didnt see the other more scuffed runs)

i wonder if i should just compile all of the friendly fire into one vid

[fallen zealot]

ngl

i did the same

some questionable sawed off's

[proven canyon]

😭

[fast magnet]

,-,

[proven canyon]

guys im currently editing it lol, i think i made some mistakes

[fallen zealot]

gys

guys

need 2 skipping cell players

asap

my cell is about to die

and it needs to be skipped

[old trench]

[viral monolith]

who up skipping they cell

[cloud depot]

i can in a bit

[fallen zealot]

huge if true

even massive dare i say

[urban nest]

if u ask nicely

[fallen zealot]

pretty please with a cherry on topsies

[cloud depot]

i would never lie trust

[urban nest]

star how much u need

[cloud depot]

2 mins

[fallen zealot]

im getting fucking ear destroyed

by this pinger

save me

[viral monolith]

any pingers

[cloud depot]

gotta wait 2 mins

[proven canyon]

ping lakana_0451 -t

[urban nest]

need like five

[fallen zealot]

five hours

can wait sure

[urban nest]

yea

[fallen zealot]

#gtfo-spoiler-chat message

guy she tells you not to worry about

[cloud depot]

das crazy

[proven canyon]

(also sky idk if yall realized this but i did NOT connect the voices to the IGN...😭)

[urban nest]

?

[proven canyon]

like when one of you told me to like "go with them" or "use on me"

[urban nest]

yea figured

[proven canyon]

😭 mb team

[glass cradle]

gimme 5

doing my dailies

[placid marten]

im down to run aswell

[urban nest]

you'd never snatch my spot

actually

[glass cradle]

o I didnt see

[urban nest]

I need more time so u might

rip

[fallen zealot]

we get chill lobby

[urban nest]

na u can play if u wanna arranging some stuff

[fallen zealot]

make him crashout ourselves

easy peasy

we control the crashout now

[glass cradle]

guys I havent crashed out in like 5 days

[fallen zealot]

wait can i bet channel points if im in the run

that feels like rigging the system

[proven canyon]

just put me in da lobi

[glass cradle]

if they exist yea

[fallen zealot]

no

[glass cradle]

still havent had time to finish setting up

[fallen zealot]

sad

[glass cradle]

streaming is hard guys trust

[placid marten]

[ancient charm]

Im also around if anyone needs someone to throw their runs try his best :)

[warm oak]

Is there gonna be a 2nd lobby?

[fast magnet]

Could

[warm oak]

insert let me in meme

[ancient charm]

Looks like we could try yea

[fast magnet]

just ping if need

[old trench]

@placid marten let's go for a cell skip run

[placid marten]

well now breads fighting zote

[urban nest]

pantheon?

or just regular 9 times

[placid marten]

regular

[candid jackal]

i may be persuaded into a cell skip

[urban nest]

could

[urban nest]

where's he progression wise btw

[placid marten]

like 98% in game%

[urban nest]

o

pretty banger

just 19 more !

[warm oak]

wait, so who wants to do cs?

• me
• Rory
• K3ppr
• AngryMaid
• Darkeva?
• Goat ?^2

[placid marten]

what?

[ancient charm]

Maid also was down

[urban nest]

117 is max

or was it 113

[ancient charm]

And sky

[placid marten]

112

[old trench]

121

[warm oak]

sky is down to cs? no way

[ancient charm]

I think

[urban nest]

fuck what is it

[placid marten]

112

[ancient charm]

Its 112

[urban nest]

I'm too old

[ancient charm]

Im fairly sure

[urban nest]

I got like 106 and couldn't care more

[old trench]

Ah right

Yes 112

[urban nest]

never closed 5th pantheon

actually washed

[ancient charm]

You put the 2 in the wrong place maid

[old trench]

You don't need 5th panth for 112

[ancient charm]

I got stuck on pure vessel

[urban nest]

u don't?

[ancient charm]

Yea pantheons dont count towards %

[old trench]

only first 4

[ancient charm]

Oh first 4

[urban nest]

I got nkg and pure vessel both hitless

[warm oak]

is this HK talk?

[old trench]

Yes

[warm oak]

smh

[urban nest]

but absolute radiance is kinda jukt

[ancient charm]

Oh fuck yea thats sick

[urban nest]

was lazy to practice

[old trench]

Nah it's way more chill than panth

lmao

[warm oak]

why do i feel like everyone around me but me is into HK

[ancient charm]

Idt I've beaten kng either

nkg