We recover the MWP from the dead bodies of a random team
#gtfo-lore
royal crow
acoustic ferry
and shaeffer got them off them?
royal crow
We find the MWP in a room with 4 other bodies
Which hints that they wanted to use it too
But they died for X or Y reason
acoustic ferry
how did we know they were there
dry oak
Schaefer specifically sends Alt to that zone, like, calls it out by number. so he knows they are there, either the warden or alt schaefer is using multiple teams at once
eternal talon
and we get introduced to the nightmare worldline
acoustic ferry
now knowing the lore it must be really weird playing the levels and characters litterally not reacting to their own dead bodies
dry oak
^brainchips'll do that to ya
royal crow
Honestly? It's better to ignore it
acoustic ferry
kinda immersion breaking
turbid merlin
That is some very cursed lighting on the first one.
eternal talon
gtfo as a whole is a pain in the ass to piece together and learn the story of.
royal crow
That is some very cursed lighting on the first one.
Thats Nightmare Dimension
A version of Garganta were the virus is way more advanced
dry oak
In D2, do og BWHD know Alt schaefer's team is BWHD?
royal crow
And so, Garganta is older too
eternal talon
Thats Nightmare Dimension
eternal talon
gtfo as a whole is a pain in the ass to piece together and learn the story of.
its mainly the reason why the Lore For Dummies was made.
so i'd not have to spend 40 minutes explaining everything to every new user. i could just point to the doc.
the first version of it was made in OGr6
dry oak
its mainly the reason why the Lore For Dummies was made.
also the game is so absurd most people will never beat it
eternal talon
also the game is so absurd most people will never beat it
eh, well the doc doesn't cover gameplay
dry oak
let alone get the opportunity to digest lore logs during timed reactors/error alarms
eternal talon
so it'll tell you anything and everything about the universe, but not what you are doing in expeditions or why
eternal talon
In D2, do og BWHD know Alt schaefer's team is BWHD?
i don't think so
dry oak
they betray Alt team because they are cunts?
royal crow
i don't think so
I mean
In R8C2 schaeffer says: what is going to happen when there is 2 of you
Sowmthing like that
eternal talon
they betray Alt team because they are cunts?
becuase that, and because they are mid-error alarm and it's safer to just GTFO
royal crow
OG knows ALT team is themselves
eternal talon
I mean
In R8C2 schaeffer says: what is going to happen when there is 2 of you
tbf there is already a bishop on the jungle planet, but i don't think OG would know that.
dry oak
becuase that, and because they are mid-error alarm and it's safer to just GTFO
thats right, there is a line "they wont last long" when you get to the other side of the security door
dry oak
tbf there is already a bishop on the jungle planet, but i don't think OG would k...
didn't that bishop disappear when he touched the malfunctioning datacubes?
acoustic ferry
why can't alt team open the door separating them from the og team?
dry oak
too many enemies
eternal talon
why can't alt team open the door separating them from the og team?
iirc it is locked
dry oak
is what they claim
eternal talon
og would have to open it
acoustic ferry
and when you play that rundown as ogs? you can't open it?
royal crow
No, you cant
eternal talon
OG says they will open it after alt:// gives them the cubes in the shuttlebox, but then doesn't.
dry oak
Imagine you suddenly have a second bot team
eternal talon
and when you play that rundown as ogs? you can't open it?
we can't because no NPCs
dry oak
my army of 7 bots
royal crow
OG says they will open it after alt:// gives them the cubes in the shuttlebox, b...
They Say the door only opens if they give them the data cubes
acoustic ferry
OG says they will open it after alt:// gives them the cubes in the shuttlebox, b...
wait how do they communicate
royal crow
Vogen Dispatch
eternal talon
wait how do they communicate
through the hearsay system
they are still pretending to be schaeffer
dry oak
hearsay sends TTS messages
royal crow
Yep
dry oak
OG lies, claiming they are schaeffer
royal crow
They are all through garganta
eternal talon
They are all through garganta
gtfo lore for dummies moment
acoustic ferry
do you send these messages mid rundown?
dry oak
yep
royal crow
You SAY the messages
eternal talon
do you send these messages mid rundown?
we do, once or twice, yeah
dry oak
honestly
eternal talon
tbf r8 og side is hard as shit
dry oak
(If R8C1 was possible with bots)
eternal talon
r8e2 is easily the hardest expedition in the entire game, hands down
acoustic ferry
You SAY the messages
so there are voicelines?
royal crow
Yes
acoustic ferry
oh
eternal talon
so there are voicelines?
one of our characters says the line, then tts says it to alt://
dry oak
once you get to like, r6, you get voice acting in missions
acoustic ferry
oh so it's not that bad lmao
I thought they had no voicelines besides the regular ones
eternal talon
once you get to like, r6, you get voice acting in missions
when?
i don't remember any in r6
royal crow
R6D1
dry oak
IDK, im in R4.
eternal talon
I thought they had no voicelines besides the regular ones
its still not more than a dozen, tops
acoustic ferry
how do the prisioners revert the infection
royal crow
What
eternal talon
how do the prisioners revert the infection
we don't.
nam-v is not the infection mechanic
while hydrostasis can kill nam-v, the damage it does to us slowly builds over time
we will die to it. stasis or not.
acoustic ferry
so if nam v kills in 5 weeks
eternal talon
if we spend an hour out, then an hour in, than an hour in, then an hour out, etc
royal crow
We have spent 5 days tops in total outside the HSU
eternal talon
so if nam v kills in 5 weeks
its 5 weeks worth of time out of stasis total, roughly
acoustic ferry
the whole game takes place during 5 weeks (ignoring those time dilation sections)
eternal talon
We have spent 5 days tops in total outside the HSU
yeah
royal crow
the whole game takes place during 5 weeks (ignoring those time dilation sections...
Nope
We don't know how long the game takes place in
eternal talon
the whole game takes place during 5 weeks (ignoring those time dilation sections...
no, because hydrostasis kills everything. you included
eternal talon
the time while under hydrostasis doesn't matter ultimately
only in-mission time
you are a corpse in hydrostasis
when you leave it, it revives you
you don't rot because it also kills everything else
bacteria, etc
dry oak
only in-mission time
better beat gtfo in under 800 hours then
acoustic ferry
and the cycle repeats
eternal talon
The breakthrough that Kovac Research hopes will answer these questions
is called Hydrostasis - a process that allows humans to be held in a
state of suspended animation for weeks, months, even years at a time
without suffering any ill-effects. The nuts and bolts of the process
are a closely guarded secret, but sources speculate that the procedure
likely uses a synthetic amniotic fluid to sustain and protect the body
while it is in an induced comatose state. In this state, the body is -
for all intents and purposes - dead, but no cell deterioration or
physical decay occurs. For the human in Hydrostasis, the heart, and
time, stops.
from ogr5c1
acoustic ferry
are we at the bottom of the facility in r6E1?
eternal talon
are we at the bottom of the facility in r6E1?
we never get to go to the bottom unfortunately.
royal crow
We never reach the bottom
royal crow
Angry face emoji
eternal talon
closest we get is a couple hundred meters above
royal crow
Who knows what kind of sleepers are down there
dry oak
Yay! running out of budget!
royal crow
And thank god we don't discover them
eternal talon
Yay! running out of budget!
we also never get to see a collector, living, sleeperified, or as a corpse.
closest we get is some architecture. this sandstone circle, and some bridges on destination.
dry oak
the sand was a clue
acoustic ferry
"Hydrostasis:
Originally designed for the Red Alpha
mission to Mars, Hydrostasis works by
killing the subject, suspending the
body in a membrane, and later reviving
them once the target destination has
been reached. The Red Alpha mission,
however, ended in disaster, as
Hydrostasis has a fatal flaw: the
complete erasure of the memory of its
inhabitant. Once the crew of the vessel
awoke, contact was immediately lost,
and the vessel crashed into the
surface of Mars, killing all onboard" if this is true do the prisioners lose the memories of very mission they do?
eternal talon
"Hydrostasis:
Originally designed for the Red Alpha
mission to Mars, Hydrostasis...
yes/no.
so, we know it isn't an instant affair.
when a person is first put into the legion program, they undergo a session of hydrostasis for a minimum of two years.
we don't know if consecutive uses stack
eternal talon
but we, as seen from the menu screens, are suffering constant headaiches.
eternal talon
and the ship crashing was responsible for the crater?
yes.
acoustic ferry
so there's no asteroid
eternal talon
in the story of gtfo, the meteor that wiped out the dinosaurs wasn't a meteor
acoustic ferry
only the ship
eternal talon
it was the ship
royal crow
And the sleepers wiped out the Mayans
acoustic ferry
you said 2km?
eternal talon
yeah...
eternal talon
it must be huge
Sector analysis complete. The mass extends 2,215 (+/- 372m) meters from apex to nadir. Width estimate is 1,247 meters (+/- 208m).
this is a rough estimation, from a K-UX scan on the surface.
apex to nadir is top-bottom
eternal talon
And somehow saved the world
fucking gigachads, somehow caused a stalemate when modern humanity got wiped.
royal crow
Tbf i think the only reason on why they managed to save the world is because they were isolated
eternal talon
imagine if there were silenced weapons
i can give a gameplay/development reason for this, not lore though.
10cc have officially stated that they never would add silenced weapons, crossbows, thrown melees, etc, and consider explosives like the mine deployer to have been a mistake
acoustic ferry
why?
eternal talon
shrugs
eternal talon
mine deployer isnt that great though
it is very effective.
acoustic ferry
Yes its good but doesn't make the game trivial
eternal talon
combined with foam, it can deal with entire waves with minimal combat and resources
but that is getting into gameplay stuff, not lore
acoustic ferry
the alt crew died not knowing that the ogs weren't actually shaeffer?
eternal talon
the alt crew died not knowing that the ogs weren't actually shaeffer?
yes.
they go down cursing and swearing.
acoustic ferry
they thought they were going to escape with shaeffer
they didnt even think about doubles
crazy
acoustic ferry
they go down cursing and swearing.
do you hear those voicelines in e2?
eternal talon
do you hear those voicelines in e2?
in e1, while you play as them.
they go down kicking in screaming, in the crater that is left behind after OG teleport away, dragging half of KDS-DEEP's vault with them.
acoustic ferry
oh so thats why everything is destroyed
and they lie about the security door not opening without the cubes
eternal talon
eternal talon
and they lie about the security door not opening without the cubes
everything warping with them when they leave
acoustic ferry
where to they teleport to though? like what place physically
eternal talon
where to they teleport to though? like what place physically
a jungle planet in an unknown worldline
acoustic ferry
oh so it's not even earth?
eternal talon
it is known that the universe's time is slower than our own
like how destinations' universe was faster
eternal talon
oh so it's not even earth?
no.
eternal talon
do the characters not know they're infected?
they probably do.
but they most likely don't care, yeah.
eternal talon
Durant was one of the three leaders of Project Insight.
the other two being hammerstein and stokes.
Durant physically led the expeditions that Stokes organized.
in OG, he and his team ended up on destination where all but bishop died.
in ALT:// they ended up on the jungle planet, and due to the slower time, are very much so still alive.
the game ends with a message from durant telling us to not move, and that there are traps around us.
they'd likely reverted to some form of primitive civilization after being stranded for a time.
funnily enough though, the ALT:// bishop that returned was not the bishop that left, so it is most likely that there already is a bishop living on the jungle planet when we get there.
acoustic ferry
and they're all infected
eternal talon
all of us, yes.
acoustic ferry
even durant who was already there
eternal talon
Durant and his people left before nam-v got out of control
acoustic ferry
we need a gtfo2
eternal talon
if we never went to the jungle world, they could have lived on
that is why the ending is tragic.
acoustic ferry
lores pretty solid
eternal talon
we doomed the last hope of humanity
acoustic ferry
or am i missing something that makes it bad?
eternal talon
in our selfish desire to escape
we are infected.
they weren't.
we doomed them.
our entire earth was already dead.
it was for nothing.
we would die from nam-v anyway
acoustic ferry
but i makes sense
eternal talon
if we went there or not
acoustic ferry
the protagonists are self serving pricks
eternal talon
the protagonists are self serving pricks
yes
acoustic ferry
they betrayed themselves
damn bishop actually says "F u c k him his purpose was served"when shaeffer dies
brutal
eternal talon
damn bishop actually says "F u c k him his purpose was served"when shaeffer dies
what, you looking up clips from e1 on yt?
acoustic ferry
r8d2
and e1
do the ogs actually discuss their plan through voicelines
or it just unfolds?
eternal talon
do the ogs actually discuss their plan through voicelines
not really to my knowledge.
it just sorta happens.
we know less than them after they remove their chips.
there are a couple time skips.
acoustic ferry
i realized one more thing
the ogs were impersonating the alts shaeffer
not their shaeffer
turbid merlin
Questions about a lore video I just saw: || I see that in one of the missions the team was very near the surface? Like were the crane is at the start of every mission, they are us? Or the alternates? ||
royal crow
Questions about a lore video I just saw: || I see that in one of the missions th...
Wdym
What video?
turbid merlin
What video?
royal crow
You probably mean jungle dimension right?
Thats were we get warped in R8E2
Thats the "clean worldline"
royal crow
Thats OG team
turbid merlin
So us? The lore is quite hard.
royal crow
So us? The lore is quite hard.
Yes, us
thin surge
its the OG R1-7 team. All Alt rundowns are a diffrent team
turbid merlin
So the yellow missions are ALT?
royal crow
No
The first half of R8
A1 to E1 is ALT
The second half of R8
A2 to E2 is OG
We play as both of them in Rundown 8
Same story, different point of view
turbid merlin
Just so I understand, there are some yellow missions like this one of rundown 6, what does yellow mean?
turbid merlin
Ok, and what do the numbers mean? Like C1 has a 7. And C2 has a 3 and a 2, I understand the number of times you have completed a mission right?
royal crow
Yes
It means how many times you have completed each objective
1st number is main
2nd number is secondary
3rd number is overload
4th number is Prisioner Efficiency ( all objectives in the same run)
turbid merlin
Ok. Thanks.
stone vine
is this games lore finished? i was wondering if it was worth purchasing from the steam store? perchance, will it contain legumes or will that be added in a later patch? also why is there not a foot picture chat in this discord server? thankyou.
ionic dune
is this games lore finished? i was wondering if it was worth purchasing from the...
Afaik it’s a finished games, there’s still some unsolved stuff lore wise but I’d recommend getting the game
stone vine
Afaik it’s a finished games, there’s still some unsolved stuff lore wise but I’d...
alright i will purchase and peruse this game GTFO. but do you know if it contains any legumes? i just got done reading this GTFO fan created fiction chapter, are bishop and hackett canon gay lovers in the game or not?
ionic dune
Im not that far into the lore but I don’t think so😳
stone vine
Im not that far into the lore but I don’t think so😳
so you haven't observed the legumes or the gay lovers? unfortunate. i suppose i must find out as i peruse the game.
ionic dune
😭🙏
honest summit
so you haven't observed the legumes or the gay lovers? unfortunate. i suppose i ...
Opening #lore and seeing this First raises so many questions
Surely it must have been a convo about the Shaeffer x Henriksson dynamic right? 
Henriksson getting piped from behind is integral to the Games lore
honest summit
Just so I understand, there are some yellow missions like this one of rundown 6,...
Back before the cosmetics Drop system got reworked, you Got color palettes for completing certain Missions or objectives. For completing all yelow Missions you Got a exclusive cosmetics you cant get anymore. Back then it was much more Story focused than today, since it used to Play, logs during the Missions, that now have been moved into Terminals where you have to get Out of your way to read it.
Generally Yellow Missions are where you get closer to the Main objective, while White Missions are Side Tracks that are required to proceede deeper, because there is a ongoing lockdown, Ventilation or Power outage that Must be dealt with
acoustic ferry
Back before the cosmetics Drop system got reworked, you Got color palettes for c...
that makes much more sense
and gives an incentive for more casual players to be forced to do secondary objectives for cosmetics they want
eternal talon
Afaik it’s a finished games, there’s still some unsolved stuff lore wise but I’d...
he is a troll. his name is in the fucking credits iirc
ionic dune
he is a troll. his name is in the fucking credits iirc
Go figure (malefic moment)
eternal talon
huh. it looks like i stand corrected.
but he has been around here for a long time in other channels.
his profile says he joined in 2021
ionic dune
There’s actual troll credits?
eternal talon
i've literally never seen more than half of the people on this list, ngh
gray bone
me neither
honest summit
Sadge that malefic isn’t there, he does deserve a spot
i am not a youtuber nor been here for that long
ionic dune
I recognize one person
ionic dune
i am not a youtuber nor been here for that long
Fair enough, just a bit silly
eternal talon
i recognize about half a dozen moderators, sam, amanes, d4rkeva and chonky
eternal talon
I only recognized d4rkeva from like memory
they are a hyper-competative speedrunner that streams on twitch, like frosty. (single t)
cunning light
I know all of them 😅
ionic dune
Idk if it’s their irl names or usernames or both for half of them so idk if I’ve seen one but just don’t know their irl name
plush nest
Seeing as they can feel it on the back of there neck it can’t be in there too deep
eternal talon
Seeing as they can feel it on the back of there neck it can’t be in there too de...
right, but it has cables, or sensors, n' shit that goes through the eyes
^
plush nest
Would you just need the information that the eyes have to be taken? The seeing centre is in the back of the head no?
eternal talon
the picture is meant to be what the warden/biocom sees.
it can see through us
the display is its hud/information
eternal talon
realistically after we brick our chips, we should not have any hud
eternal talon
The Warden is in me
this is exactly why that mission just... ends
the signal is cut
we are seeing from the warden's POV
eternal talon
i know you know, i'm just explaining it for sqweeker
royal crow
Roll the credits
ionic dune
Isn’t this the opening scene thingy
eternal talon
Isn’t this the opening scene thingy
one of them, yes.
eternal talon
there are/were others.
ionic dune
(Joke)
ionic dune
there are/were others.
What’s the bottom right thing?
ionic dune
Oh
eternal talon
prior to waking us up
ionic dune
Oh yea I didnt zoom
royal crow
I love having the warden in me
eternal talon
I love having the warden in me
gone wrong?
plush nest
realistically after we brick our chips, we should not have any hud
Would have been a better end imo
ionic dune
This community is one of the freakiest I’ve been in (if you don’t count my friend group as a community 😳🥵)
eternal talon
Would have been a better end imo
there is also the whole hydrostasis loading screen and extractions after that expeditions...
though that is mostly due to not wanting to rewrite the loading system
plush nest
I do feel like most of r8 was a little rushed
eternal talon
This community is one of the freakiest I’ve been in (if you don’t count my frien...
you should (not) see the Coffin of Andy & Leyley community.
it is all incest
plush nest
there is also the whole hydrostasis loading screen and extractions after that ex...
That I can understand
royal crow
*gone wrong?*
ionic dune
you should (not) see the Coffin of Andy & Leyley community.
~~it is all incest~~
😭🙏
Im good thanks
royal crow
ionic dune
😭🙏ffs
royal crow
Not surprised
eternal talon
the game's story is unironically quite good
ionic dune
Reddit moment
eternal talon
its just that one optional side-route that the game warns you about before taking it
royal crow
*the game's story is unironically quite good*
You want to know what other freaky game has great lore?
royal crow
S*x with Hitler
ionic dune
S*x with Hitler
😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
royal crow
The lore is good
ionic dune
I’ve seen that game on steam
royal crow
Actually good
ionic dune
Funni
eternal talon
The lore is good
0/10. too many balls
ionic dune
I like how 6 is filtered but not his name
eternal talon
but back to gtfo lore, shall we?
ionic dune
0/10. too many balls
😭🙏
royal crow
but back to gtfo lore, shall we?
No
royal crow
Does someone here plays Barotrauma?
ionic dune
What makes the ammopacks? (Company wise and is it like mass produced)
ionic dune
xenologist.
Isn’t xenophobia smth diff?
eternal talon
emptying the chalice of stale wine
eternal talon
Isn’t xenophobia smth diff?
The xenologist Subclass is all about gene splicing
ionic dune
I just saw xeno and yanno
ionic dune
The xenologist Subclass is all about gene splicing
Ooooh ok makes sense
eternal talon
Looting alien DNA from corpses, then combining it with stabilozine to refine it. Combined with a gene splicer item, you can infuse yourself with traits from the monsters in-game
You can combine different DNA aswell, but has a chance of tainting it if you aren't skilled enough
I think I actually mention barotrauma in the gtfo lfd pdf
The husk infection, Velonaceps Calyx, is pretty similar to Parasitidae Garganta
ionic dune
What’s lfd?
eternal talon
(Except calyx kills you)
eternal talon
What’s lfd?
Lore for dummies
ionic dune
Also is this smth you can do in the game?
ionic dune
Lore for dummies
Should’ve remembered that
eternal talon
Also is this smth you can do in the game?
Everything I've mentioned about barotrauma above are in-game mechanics.
ionic dune
Oh
royal crow
I just shoot stuff
eternal talon
I just shoot stuff
Security main?
ionic dune
Is it the boosters that are that stuff or when and where do you do it?
eternal talon
Or captain?
eternal talon
Is it the boosters that are that stuff or when and where do you do it?
What?
eternal talon
Where can I do this?
Where can you do what? Play barotrauma?
It is on steam
It's a submarine horror game where the horror is your friends being idiots
royal crow
Security main?
I don't have a main
I just do stuff
ionic dune
Where can you do what? Play barotrauma?
Oh I thought this was GTFO😭
eternal talon
Deep beneath the oceans and ice of europa
eternal talon
Jove, yes
coral gorge
do i see
barotrauma
in my gtfo lore chat
waiter, there are eldritch beings beyond my comprehension, swimming in my cup of tea!
eternal talon
Do... all four of us play barotruama???
(You, me, pable, & beanz)
Maybe we could play a campaign in the barsuk or dugong
coral gorge
Do... all four of us play barotruama???
i mean
"play" is a strong word
me and alex started playing like last week
but i suppose all of us do own the game
glory to the coalition
royal crow
*waiter, there are eldritch beings beyond my comprehension, swimming in my cup o...
You want to know whats more scary than an eldritch god?
You as a captain
coral gorge
=)
eternal talon
***glory to the coalition***
lmao, separatist main
we really should get together some time in our server and make a multiplayer campaign
coral gorge
we really should get together some time in our server and make a multiplayer cam...
Yeah sure, just as always finding a time window will suck
honest summit
Oh lol i Always thought about buying it, but am too lazy to try and convince my Friends to Play it with me
eternal talon
Oh lol i Always thought about buying it, but am too lazy to try and convince my ...
buy it.
the story/lore is fucking fantastic
better than gtfo's imo
and you can play the entire game in its dedicated solo/campaign mode
eternal talon
i see you when you're typing
i know when you want lore
jesus christ, you must want a LOT of lore
dry oak
Okay, So. I'm want to throw out a definitely incorrect theory to pontificate. based on me still being stuck on all the dead copies of the crew.
There are more than 2 playable timelines in GTFO. In rundown 8, you play as Alt1 crew and OG crew.
in rundown 7, you play as OG crew
in rundown 6, you play as Alt2 AND Alt3 crew, who make it to the rundown 8 dimension, but die. (the dead crews with the Datacubes/MWP)
(there is alot less cohesion between Alt rundown 1-5 and R8. alt R2 and R3 are probably the same dimension, because the Neonate in R2E1 is the same as the one from all of R3, but maybe the ending of R5 was another prerequisite to the rundown 8 plan by giving Warden more access to KDS?)
dry oak
*jesus christ, you must want a LOT of lore*
um. maybe.
gray bone
currently tending to something else, maybe later
royal crow
Okay, So. I'm want to throw out a definitely incorrect theory to pontificate. ba...
Wrong
This is wrong
All wrong
Mods, steal his GPU
eternal talon
Okay, So. I'm want to throw out a definitely incorrect theory to pontificate. ba...
wdym alt2 and alt3 crew?
all of the alt rundowns and the first half of r8 is the same squad
royal crow
There is only only one ALT TEAM
royal crow
The bodies in R8 are from random teams of other worldlines
Just random
We don't know them
eternal talon
The bodies in R8 are from random teams of other worldlines
there are also bodies in r6cx
royal crow
there are also bodies in r6cx
Also a random team
dry oak
Why are we so sure?
dry oak
What evidence is there that the R6A1 crew is the same as the R8A1 crew?
royal crow
Schaeffer dialogue in R6D1 and R8A1
Starting R8A1 schaeffer says something like
You remember me, dont You?
eternal talon
occam's razor also.
royal crow
In A1 he continues to explain where he left in R8D1
Surface dead blah blah blah
Working with the Warden
That we need to work together
dry oak
I did come out of the gate saying this theory was definitely incorrect.
Oh, in R8A1 he says "do you even remember me" because of the hydrostatis, not because he is unsure which version he is talking to
royal crow
He doesnt know there is other us
Theres no way he is confused on who is who
Iin C1 he refers to the other team as " could be project Insight scientist"
He doesnt learn about the spaghetti worldline until his death
dry oak
The Alt R6D1 message is very weirdly worded.
"It's possible we've talked before, or at least you think we have"
Did i miss a lore log that explains why BWHD would think theyve spoken with schaeffer?
royal crow
There was cases of people getting memories from other worldlines
And confusing dates or events
dry oak
It reads as if R6D1 Alt Schaeffer thinks another schaeffer may have talked with them
eternal talon
mr. truth, most notably
royal crow
mr. truth, most notably
And a random scientist right?
dry oak
Are OG r1-6 still canon?
eternal talon
Are OG r1-6 still canon?
yes
dry oak
Well, my theory is moot then.
dry oak
It feels more narritively satisfying if the R6 MWP and Datacubes we gathered were THE MWP and Datacubes in r8.
Same with the Neonate from R3 being the conduit (already talked about this yesterday being wrong)
The addition of optional objectives in R4 really made me lose the plot. suddenly i cant tell what we are doing
eternal talon
a lot of the story came out of nowhere in r6
(gameplay wise)
and even a lot of stuff pre-apocalypse, too
ogr6 was the official "1.0" release out of early access
before that, story was barely a thing
royal crow
The addition of optional objectives in R4 really made me lose the plot. suddenly...
All secondary objectives are canon btw (except R8A2)
eternal talon
even a fair bit of what we know from r1-r5 is retro-active
dry oak
All secondary objectives are canon btw (except R8A2)
Yes, but it muddles the objective. there are some that make sense like R4D2 secondary activating a ventilation cluster that is slowly increasing the fog being the reason in R4E1 the fog is lowering but as a whole
worn rivet
hmm
rich plaza
Do our characters canonically survived every mission till the end?
gray bone
Do our characters canonically survived every mission till the end?
Yes
Except for that one time
worn rivet
Small tangent here, but I love how in r8e1 right before the survive mission pops onto the screen, the entire alt team basically just goes "Well it's been good/an honour to fight alongside you" and even one of them calls the other 3 brothers.
gray bone
Small tangent here, but I love how in r8e1 right before the survive mission pops...
I do believe the ALT team are slightly more honourable than the OG team, though that isn't saying much
worn rivet
and then right as they've finished saying this, the horrific screams of the sleepers is heard off in the distance
worn rivet
I do believe the ALT team are slightly more honourable than the OG team, though ...
Well, most of alt teams is slightly more sane and stable then the og counterparts in both the game and I think their backstories, and in their dialouges they seem more freindly and talkative.
royal crow
Do our characters canonically survived every mission till the end?
OG team yes
ALT team no
royal crow
I do believe the ALT team are slightly more honourable than the OG team, though ...
Sorry man, ALT team isnt the perfect team, they bad
radiant root
alt hendrickson and maddox would’ve gone hard
worn rivet
garganta's an intresting place to think about
gray bone
alt henrikkson would've been the crazy one
honestly I think maddison would've been the crazy one if it came to it
raw terrace
garganta's an intresting place to think about
throat's an interesting place to think about
worn rivet
the massive walls and doors that go to nowhere, the vast bridges and rooms that go up for seeming forever, the many screens detailling things.
The teleporter room, the mines
raw terrace
mwp oriented stuff my beloved
worn rivet
the mechanical bits and bobs around the vast areas, glass soo much glass, the wonderful plants.
even though it's shitty, the architecture looks good and has landscape to it.
royal crow
why shitty KDMSKD
Because it doesnt make sense most of the time
worn rivet
why shitty KDMSKD
what does that mean
raw terrace
what does that mean
femboy laugh
worn rivet
oh as in
it has way to little supports in some areas for what it is, the windows and railings make no fucking sense for where they are, just the amounts of doors that lead to no where and so much more
raw terrace
i defend the doors that lead to nowhere as it not being finished
or in most caves and storage the doors just fucking caved in
worn rivet
some of them just lead to straight and flat walls with no signs for a cave in and the not finished part makes some what sense
ionic dune
it has way to little supports in some areas for what it is, the windows and rail...
Little supports could be better materials in future
worn rivet
Little supports could be better materials in future
i forgot it was in the future to be honest
wait correction i mean the events of the before the game parts
worn rivet
yet
ionic dune
🤷♂️
next panther
I clicked it
worn rivet
*steamSNcommunity* isn't a real website
what is this website
eternal talon
what is this website
its a phishing site.
there are thousands of websites with slight variation on Steamcommunity
(pretending to be steam)
worn rivet
okay, makes sense on that front, hunt the idiots
eternal talon
so you will click them
then it will auto download a cookie when the page loads
the text and whatnot is just trying to get you to click it
phishing because it is throwing a wide net and seeing if anybody is stupid enough to click
it isn't targeted
worn rivet
strange how it appeared here
eternal talon
it appeared in every channel
i pinged here and in #gtfo-spoiler-chat
it was also in wiki-chat and gtfo-chat
it happens from time to time
just never click any links without fully reading the https
worn rivet
i remember that and the pinging thingy
ionic dune
strange how it appeared here
people sell botted accounts (or accounts that have been hacked)
eternal talon
mainly they use stolen accounts to dm their "friends", pretending to be them, and getting more accounts
royal crow
The screaming?
broken rivet
there's a sound after enter zone 15/18
royal crow
Mom scream?
I don't remember which level has a mom scream but you dont actually fight one
ionic dune
oh ok, id record it but i dont have a recording software
ionic dune
ill see if i can find it but makes sense
eternal talon
no official name
barring the big but not colossal mother
being the Pmother
it is how we know the mothers and fathers (tanks) are likely not entirely natural mutations of the parasite
ionic dune
https://youtu.be/OjdAUttgVfg?t=451 i think you can faintly hear it here
worn rivet
https://youtu.be/OjdAUttgVfg?t=451 i think you can faintly hear it here
if you mean what i think you mean, that sounds like either a big or a tank
broken rivet
im tripping though you mean r3c1
ionic dune
oh wait thats not alt
royal crow
Oh yeah
You can hear it
eternal talon
why can't i find the log about the pmother trial samples...
ionic dune
so its mother?
royal crow
Yeah
royal crow
if you mean what i think you mean, that sounds like either a big or a tank
It's a far scream before the scout dies
royal crow
Its really hard to hear
worn rivet
i thought it was the ridiclously loud one
eternal talon
aha! it was a cargo crate, not a log
pMOTHER Trial Samples
there's gotta be more info than this...
ionic dune
aha! it was a cargo crate, not a log
whats that?
broken rivet
should we tell ?
ionic dune
idc
worn rivet
theres diff ones?
yeah, uhh that's spoilers
royal crow
theres diff ones?
Theres normal mother, Pmom and Mega Mother
broken rivet
there's 3 vers
ionic dune
ive already seen r8, though my memory is yanno
royal crow
But you only fight the Mega Mother once
ionic dune
But you only fight the Mega Mother once
boss fight
eternal talon
Theres normal mother, Pmom and Mega Mother
only pmommy we know the name of (officially)
worn rivet
boss fight
boss fight with a checkpoint right before it
eternal talon
though 10cc doesn't like giving enemies names
for the most part we the community named the monsters
ionic dune
boss fight with a checkpoint right before it
forgor those existed icl
ionic dune
for the most part we the community named the monsters
is there any official names for any enemy?
worn rivet
is there any official names for any enemy?
scouts
ionic dune
fair
eternal talon
is there any official names for any enemy?
Pmother, Scout, Squidward,
ionic dune
legit says "scout" in game
ionic dune
Pmother, Scout, Squidward,
squidward?
eternal talon
squidward?
that is the kraken's official name
in the dbs, like bullrush for chargers
ionic dune
oh
eternal talon
within unity
worn rivet
i love how some characters dialouges interact with eachotheer
royal crow
Unity 🤮
ionic dune
Unity 🤮
what was that one cursed coding language that rollercoaster tycoon was made in (unity is that but game engine version)
royal crow
what was that one cursed coding language that rollercoaster tycoon was made in (...
Assembly?
ionic dune
yea
broken rivet
its Squidward, SquidBoss_Big, SquidBoss_Big_Complex and SquidBoss_VS
ionic dune
huh, and do the team see the kraken at any time?
eternal talon
wdym?
ionic dune
oh
eternal talon
we see it twice in r6
worn rivet
huh, and do the team see the kraken at any time?
uhh yeah, there's 1 with alt team in r8 and another with og team in r8 too, and then there's another
eternal talon
killing it once
ionic dune
i thought we didnt fight the kraken, that the kraken wasnt the one with the ||warts||
eternal talon
we fight one in r7?
royal crow
we see it twice in r6
And 3 times in R8
eternal talon
and we see like 5 in r8
royal crow
we fight one in r7?
Nope
eternal talon
killing one
eternal talon
its Squidward, SquidBoss_Big, SquidBoss_Big_Complex and SquidBoss_VS
the model is called squidward, not the enemy itself
"ModelDatas": [
{
"ModelFile": "Assets/AssetPrefabs/CharacterBuilder/Enemies/Squidward/Squidward_CB.prefab",
"ModelCustomization": "Assets/AssetPrefabs/CharacterBuilder/Enemies/Squidward/Customization_Squidward.prefab",
squidboss is technically the name of the enemy
but squidward is funny
ionic dune
R8B2 sec
And R8E2
is there a reason why i dont see r8e2 in the rundown screen?
royal crow
You have to do R8e1 to unlock the 2nd half of R8
eternal talon
is there a reason why i dont see r8e2 in the rundown screen?
you need to complete the A side of the disk first.
ionic dune
oh right it was the warden we dont fight
royal crow
And then do the level in orders
worn rivet
is there a reason why i dont see r8e2 in the rundown screen?
how much of it have you beaten
ionic dune
oh ok
eternal talon
r8a1 halfway
ionic dune
r3a1 is furthest ive gone
worn rivet
after you beat the alt side of r8 once you've beaten r8e1, the og teams side first mission opens for access
ionic dune
i usually stick to the rundowns im on (except skipping r2c2 and r2d2 and beyond cuz fuck both those for now, might come back)
ionic dune
after you beat the alt side of r8 once you've beaten r8e1, the og teams side fir...
aighty
worn rivet
then it's a tooth and naill fight through that side till the credits
royal crow
unless brazil moment? (or is that diff level)
The first time you see "Brazil" is R6A1
ionic dune
and co
royal crow
It's not that bad of a level
ionic dune
wait is r8e2 the one with the countdown?
worn rivet
wait is r8e2 the one with the countdown?
yep
royal crow
Theres multiple levels with countdowns
royal crow
But R8E2 is the only level where a countdown basically kills you
ionic dune
But R8E2 is the only level where a countdown basically kills you
r8e2 is classified in my brain as THE countdown cuz of this (but yes i havent found a level that has a similar countdown like it)
also when i select a level what is the heavily distorted voice saying? (is it level specific?)
royal crow
also when i select a level what is the heavily distorted voice saying? (is it le...
Nothing
ionic dune
oh ok
ionic dune
freaky warden
radiant root
r8e2 is classified in my brain as THE countdown cuz of this (but yes i havent fo...
🙂
worn rivet
i wonder which of the main 4 is the tallest
ionic dune
is it just me or does it seem like theres a person screaming inside the blood doors?
worn rivet
is it just me or does it seem like theres a person screaming inside the blood do...
that's what is behind the blood door
ionic dune
actually? i thought it was only sleepers or whatever ya wanna call them
worn rivet
yeah they scream and can make loud noises, scouts make the alert noise
at which point, get the gun
ionic dune
yea but i mean it sounds like someone is screaming smth along the lines of "help me"
ionic dune
yep
worn rivet
it could be the lingering consciense
ionic dune
i thought they could like make sounds to lure in their pray
worn rivet
hmm, intresting theory
ionic dune
frostty would prolly know
eternal talon
know what
eternal talon
not that i know. iirc it is just sleepers beating on the door
ionic dune
aighty then
raw terrace
also when i select a level what is the heavily distorted voice saying? (is it le...
it reads the text for the beta mission
:]
turbid merlin
Question, why do we come down in a straight hole in the ground? || Is this ones of the rays the spaceship fired to kill sleepers? ||
eternal talon
Question, why do we come down in a straight hole in the ground? || Is this ones ...
you know your lore!
Also yes.
Also you don't need spoiler tags on messages in this channel
turbid merlin
Ok, and the trapdoor at the top was built after I guess?
eternal talon
We don't know when it was built,
But yes.
Santonian repurposed the holes to move freight because it was infinitely faster
Than down a loooooong series of tunnels from the mainland
We don't always drop down the same hole, either
There are hundreds of them
I'd assume all but the ones beneath the ocean would have infrastructure built into them
turbid merlin
Also, what happened to the surface after everything died? Was it a total wipe like even the plants are death? Or more like no humans?
eternal talon
Given destination still has living plant life, it's safe to assume nam-v only affect fauna.
At this point, most, if not all life is dead barring plant matter.
And post/during r8, it's much worse with the matter wave collapse, though nobody would be up there to see it
turbid merlin
And post/during r8, it's much worse with the matter wave collapse, though nobody...
Whats that?
turbid merlin
As in, have you played it
No, just rundown 2.
eternal talon
Ah, well, a more complicated answer.
Am I right to assume you've read the "for dummies" doccuments?
turbid merlin
Am I right to assume you've read the "for dummies" doccuments?
Yes
eternal talon
So, do you remember how late in the timeline, insight was experimenting with the matter wave projector and other artifacts recovered from their ship?
The technology is... entirely alien
If I remember correctly, the LFD mentions one such scenario, when insight lost an entire wing of their lab
This is due to us (humanity) not using it for its intended purpose (the matter wave projector)
Every time we've used it, it's had errors,
Or glitches
Through the entire time insight were experimenting with it pre-apocalypse
turbid merlin
Yeah, I remember we left a team of researchers "somewhere", and only bishop was able to come back.
eternal talon
To the point where, in r6, just picking up the device shunts us into the destination universe.
R8, is essentially, the device glitching and corrupting so much from so many uses, that it began to drag together and fuse over a dozen different universes into one.
Most notably OG, and ALT
Which is why there are multiple schaeffers, multiple of our quad, etc
It is also fusing terrain, space, everything.
turbid merlin
It is also fusing terrain, space, everything.
Oh yeah I remember, that why there are also new enemies on later rundowns right?
eternal talon
In its own universe, destination is in the butterfly nebula, 3k light years away relative to earth.
The mwp has teleported destination terrain underground on earth, including half of a fucking MOUNTAINSIDE
The entire alpha one site.
In r8e2
What was solid rock, replaced with a void, air, sand, etc
The atmosphere from destination
The two chunks of terrain... swapped
Imagine the surface
A random street light replaced with a boulder
Or worse, considering how much of space is empty...
It'd be pure pandemonium
It'd be a miracle our planet doesn't just instantly explode from some random cubic square of air being replaced by the center of a super-nova-ing star
eternal talon
Oh yeah I remember, that why there are also new enemies on later rundowns right?
In r8, yes, from the nightmare worldline/dimension, where such time had progressed that nam-v and the parasite had mutated humans further
eternal talon
Yeah, I remember we left a team of researchers "somewhere", and only bishop was ...
Yes. In the original worldline, that expedition, led by Durant, ended up on Destination where all except bishop died.
In the alt:// worldline, that expedition, also led by durant, ended up on a previously unknown jungle planet
They are still alive on that jungle planet, albeit stranded.
The alt:// bishop in our squad while we play in the alt:// universe is NOT alt:// bishop. We do not know where he came from. Alt:// bishop is still living with his durant's expedition on the jungle planet.
Does this answer your questions?
Ignoring r8,
turbid merlin
Does this answer your questions?
Yes
eternal talon
In OG, only nam-v got out. All life is extinct aside from plants, but given enough time, evolution could create life again, albeit with the ship still being a ticking time bomb, so to say
In ALT, both the virus AND the parasite got out, so that universe's earth is just fucked, doomed to eventually become like destination.
turbid merlin
In ALT, both the virus AND the parasite got out, so that universe's earth is jus...
Question, was “destination” the original “coordinares” the Collectors had put into the device right? That’s why we need to change the “coordinates” prior to change universe to one free of the Sleepers?
royal crow
Question, was “destination” the original “coordinares” the Collectors had put i...
We dont really know
Since ALT Durant ends up in jungle dimension
turbid merlin
Ok
Also, maybe you have noticed that security doors only have clamps on one side? I find it curious.
eternal talon
It'd be a miracle our planet doesn't just instantly explode from some random cub...
Thinking about this hypothetically, if one of two universes in r8 that got merged had the same building in say, Tokyo, but one was built 6 feet to the left, would you have two buildings clipping into eachother, or one full building and 6ft of a building off to one side, because the air was already taking up the space on the inside of the first building?
-- or what if one building had an extra story built?
Would it just immediately warp in above and fall through the roof?
royal crow
Thinking about this hypothetically, if one of two universes in r8 that got merge...
I don't think the spaghetti worldline works like that at all
I think its more like
Everything exists as "it was" but different
eternal talon
I wouldn't say so, because of the destination terrain in garganta
Destination was an entirely different planet
royal crow
I wouldn't say so, because of the destination terrain in garganta
Thats more like a another planet in our planet
Not a worldline
eternal talon
Assuming the terrain was swapped, and not just overwritten
eternal talon
Destination isnt a worldline
It's a planet
It is a planet in its own worldline
Because of the 85x1 time scale
royal crow
You know what i mean
eternal talon
But I'd love to talk about it.
royal crow
Really interesting topic overall
eternal talon
Because in regards to r8e2, I'm thinking alpha one and that mass of rock swapped places, because of the air and stuff. It's not a vacuum, or it would have torn the sec door off
If all ~12 or so of the worldlines all directly fused, garganta would be an even bigger mess of walls and stairs and doors that lead to nothing
And potentially impassable terrain
next panther
Is it thought of as 2 merging into the 1, or as 1 merging into the other
eternal talon
Is it thought of as 2 merging into the 1, or as 1 merging *into* the other
my brain hurts
It's a bowl of spaghetti
All the different worldlines are jumbled together into one mass
next panther
I feel like it would make sense if it was one merging into the other
So you have one worldline as the base
eternal talon
Stuff like the nightmare worldline, destination, and I guess alt/og
There is also those upside down garden zones...
royal crow
I think its more like
Instead of X and Y making XY
Is X and Y making Z
eternal talon
Those make no sense to me
next panther
Stuff like the nightmare worldline, destination, and I guess alt/og
Like is the nightmare worldline replacing the normal one or just adding onto it
eternal talon
It's not just two though, that's what makes it complicated
royal crow
I think its more like
Instead of X and Y making XY
Is X and Y making Z
This is an example
I wont write 12 different letters just for this
I'm lazy
royal crow
What overwrites what
Its not an overwrite
It makes its own thing
next panther
If that makes sense
royal crow
It's own seperate thing made from everything else
eternal talon
Its not an overwrite
It makes its own thing
As far as we know, earth isn't bigger in r8...
That extra mass has to go somewhere
royal crow
Frostty
Thats not what i mean
I think Frosty actually understood what i was trying to say
eternal talon
If there are 9 KDS-Deeps, all built in roughly the same spot, how do you determine which one is what we see? Is it a little bit of each deep, or like what
royal crow
If there are 9 KDS-Deeps, all built in roughly the same spot, how do you determi...
Its not 9 KDS Deep
It's one made from the 9
Different parts
But the same
eternal talon
So it's like stairs from 1, door from 3, container from 7, etc?
royal crow
Yeah
eternal talon
Then how come the alpha one site got rid of all the rock in r8e2?
Wouldn't it just be embedded?
royal crow
Maybe in one worldline there wasnt any rock
And this new "worldline" used that as reference
eternal talon
And why is there a copy of the gardens zone on the ceiling upside down
Also...
Call me crazy, isn't there a corpse up there? Defying gravity?
royal crow
Yep
eternal talon
I don't remember
royal crow
2 actually
royal crow
It doesn't make any sense
You Say that like Rundown 8 makes sense by itself
eternal talon
It blue screened
I don't think the multiverse broke, because jungle planet is okay
royal crow
Fair enough
eternal talon
And we can see the surface there for a mile
rich plaza
saw alot of peoples talking about Alt team, can someone explain who they are?
honest summit
saw alot of peoples talking about Alt team, can someone explain who they are?
female versions of our team
worn rivet
saw alot of peoples talking about Alt team, can someone explain who they are?
essantily, their the team that you play as during the alt rundowns and the 1st half of r8, they have sane schaffer who doesnt have henrikson.
and didnt beat the wardens conduit to death with a metal pipe and instead listened to it.
radiant root
female versions of our team
femme dauda would go so hard
royal crow
saw alot of peoples talking about Alt team, can someone explain who they are?
Us from another worldline
dry oak
So which team is still in their original dimension in r8? and how did the other playable team get there without any dimensional travel device?
If the dimensions are just mashed together, are there just multiple copies of kds deep storage?
eternal talon
Ehhhhh
We don't know.
R8 is a whole bunch... combined into one
So technically both?
For the latter, read yesterday's convo between me and pable
(Aka a2 password)
dry oak
Ah I didn't get far enough
I was reading about the upside down garden zone which made me think about kds deep
worn rivet
r8 is, to quote doctor who, "a timey whimey mess" of details and conflicting details
with the two teams being strange
gray bone
I mean one of the teams being saner than the other doesn't make anything better I suppose
Not lorewise
honest summit
So which team is still in their original dimension in r8? and how did the other ...
original dimension is no more, it merged with a bunch of others
royal crow
@ionic dune
ionic dune
interesting
eternal talon
ah, nice, i was looking for that one to post
dry oak
How many versions of the jungle dimension are there?
royal crow
How many versions of the jungle dimension are there?
Technically infinite
But we only see one
dry oak
Due to spaghettification of r8, there have to be clean dimensions that bwhd and kds deep don't teleport to. As 6 dimensions enter r8, but only 1 leaves?
eternal talon
What
royal crow
There is an infinite amount of dimensions
royal crow
Due to spaghettification of r8, there have to be clean dimensions that bwhd and ...
Also wdym 6 dimensions enter R8 but only one leaves?
royal crow
What is "bwhd"
Bishop
Woods
Hackett
Dauda
eternal talon
Ewww why is that an acronym
eternal talon
We already have gotfo
dry oak
What is gotfo?
royal crow
The acronyms of our characters
eternal talon
What is gotfo?
Genesis operative
Tau
Faulty
O-- I forget
eternal talon
Omega?
royal crow
Yeah
dry oak
Can't have shit make sense.
eternal talon
BISHOP, FRANK GO-1395
DAUDA, ABEO T-3701
WOODS, ISAIAH F-2056
HACKETT, AIDEN O-4711
dry oak
Also wdym 6 dimensions enter R8 but only one leaves?
There are at least 6 versions (that i know of) of BWHD in r8, 5 die, 1 escapes to jungle world. Assuming this takes place infinite amounts of times, wouldn't 5/6 jungle worlds not have kds teleport into it?
royal crow
Ah
I see what you mean now
Maybe?
Hard to say since we go to a jungle planet in another worldline
eternal talon
alright, so listen here
royal crow
Maybe other team will take the place of the others
eternal talon
we know jungle world isn't a part of r8
because its surface isn't fucked
so it is outside of the merge
dry oak
But, wouldn't infinite bishop's have to return from infinite jungle worlds?
eternal talon
while there are theoretically infinite jungle worlds, like there are theoretically infinite earths, both with, and without the virus, ship, and everything,
insight only knew the coords to one
one clean jungle world
royal crow
Yeah Frostty
eternal talon
But, wouldn't infinite bishop's have to return from infinite jungle worlds?
the bishop that returned in alt:// isn't the bishop that left to the jungle world.
it is some other random bishop
royal crow
We still love Bishop
eternal talon
**Dr Stokes,
I have just collated the final post-launch report and I noticed something odd. I'm scratching my head on this one - maybe it makes sense to you?
During the scrub down of the jump site, we discovered a security officer mask jammed under the launch platform. We ran a forensic on it and the DNA came as KSO Bishop - the only operative who returned from EF-01. However, Bishop had all of his equipment when he returned - including his mask. The mask we found was also a different design to Bishop's mask, but at some point, Bishop must have been wearing the mask. It was covered in his DNA.
I followed up with Mr. Piros and explained the conundrum. Mr. Piros informed me that Bishop's equipment is all accounted for. I asked Mr. Piros if they had issued Bishop any new equipment after the expedition, but Mr. Piros told me Bishop is using the same equipment he was issued with when he was delivered to Garganta. Mr. Piros refused to give me any more information at that point and simply stopped responding to me. I don't think he was hiding anything; I think he just had nothing else to say.
So now we have this mask. I don't know if this means anything, but I'm stumped. I have secured the item in the artifact vault should you want us to run any further tests on it.
Let me know,
Nolan Connor**
eternal talon
**Dr Stokes,
I have just collated the final post-launch report and I noticed so...
from alt://r1
dry oak
So are there two bishops in alt timeline? I recall bishop gets immediately bagged by kds before insight can do anything with him
dry oak
But that still means infinite bishops go to infinite jungle worlds, but scrambled on the way back
eternal talon
But that still means infinite bishops go to infinite jungle worlds, but scramble...
no
royal crow
I'm more confused now
eternal talon
insight had the coords to this one specific jungle world.
insight doesn't know every worldline to ever exist
they have a spreadsheet with thousands of them, yes,
but only this one clean one.
eternal talon
this one earth, alt:// earth, sent this one bishop, alt://bishop, to this one jungle planet
royal crow
He means in general
eternal talon
we don't know specifically how gtfo's worldlines work (or if they work differently), but traditionally, according to worldline theory (irl), every action would create two universes, one where the action occurred, and one where it didn't, to my knowledge.
there aren't infinite alt://s technically
its branching
the series of choices and decisions that led to ef01 made universes where it didn't.
those universes also exist, and carry on
alt://, that we know of, is one branch of that tree
i can't say much more than that.
royal crow
I want a worldline where the perfect team is just 4 hacketts
The Warden strongest soldiers
dry oak
Sorry I had to step out, the existence of the second bishop masks means that in at least one other universe, bishop was part of the crew that was experimenting with the MWP. Since at least 6 bishops are still in garganta, and no core crews have a bishop replacement that we see. Inference is that all of the bishops went to separate worlds and all survived long enough to return. Therefore all dimensions ventured to by alternate universe bishops may have been free of nam-v
eternal talon
I mean not necessarily
OG bishop went with his EF01 and they ended up on Destination. All except bishop died.
He returned alone with the matter wave projector 2 weeks later
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SteaNMUcommunity
Some kind of horrific steam-temu this time
cunning light
They will keep making up new ones...
dry oak
Correct. Not necessarily. Like most story with dimensional travel, it is impossible to prove or disprove.
At least 2 bishops do experiment with the mwp, and one comes back to a universe not their own.
We don't know if any other bishop does.
In og and alt timeline, the divergence point is presumably the method scaeffer uses to remove their brainchip. But if we have at least 4 other dead crews, where are the other dead Schaffers? Is their divergence point much earlier?
nimble saddle
I want a worldline where the perfect team is just 4 hacketts
Imagine hearing "shit they're at the door and they sound pissed" 4 times at the same moment
dry oak
Imagine hearing "shit they're at the door and they sound pissed" 4 times at the ...
They sound pissed? How did the sleepers get drunk?
eternal talon
Inatophat, are you familiar with the biology of sleepers? It is quite disturbing
nimble saddle
this is something i must hear
eternal talon
Sleepers aren't zombies.
The host, infected by the parasite, is still living.
Conscious, depending on the circumstances.
Now consider the mutations the parasite makes to the hosts, the warped limbs, the broken bones,
The hollowed out innards, replaced with new generations of eggs of the parasite
Now consider mothers, two adults fused together
eternal talon
Now consider the babies inside the mothers, hijacked and infested in the womb
nimble saddle
Now consider mothers, two adults fused together
Wait how does tha happen?
eternal talon
wait do they canonically have their reproductive organs still there
My boy, that is how mothers work
nimble saddle
does the virus fuse them together
nimble saddle
My boy, that is how mothers *work*
I am so smart
eternal talon
Just like it makes the giant taller, stronger, and beefier
It repurposes the female anatomy for its uses.
eternal talon
does the virus fuse them together
Like angler fish in real life, the fused male being used purely for semen generation
Growing vestigial