It's simply a more accurate term... Basically, gtfo is a multiverse, every action that could or could not occur splits one universe into two, that then go on to make more and more universes, infinitely. Branching forever, sorta. Each of these individual universes is a "line".
#gtfo-lore
eternal talon
This same style of multiverse was used in the anime Steins;Gate
Though GTFO doesn't mess with the time travel aspect of it.
-- not going back and making new worldlines, just jumping between them at the same point in relative time, via the matter wave projector
eternal talon
That is where the community "spaghetti" term for r8 came from. It's a bunch of these worldlines getting tangled up into one big one.
eternal talon
do we know how the Immortal was made?
We do not know.
It certainly isn't unique, given r8a2
drowsy adder
is the Warden a alien?
eternal talon
is the Warden a alien?
yes.
either an AI created by them, the collectors, or a collector conciousness in-and-of-itself.
drowsy adder
in the alt time Mr.truth gets memories of a different Mr.truth
why does that not happen to other characters
eternal talon
two answers.
1: we don't know.
2: it probably does. truth himself doesn't consider these to be real memories iirc, but i could be wrong.
he thinks the government is out to get him
drowsy adder
do the the collectors know about the worldlines
eternal talon
Well, for the last few months, I have been... experiencing things that I can't explain. I have memories, memories that I have been told are false. Memories that even Mrs. Truth tells me are in my imagination. These memories are fleeting, but they are clear, precise recollections of events, they are... emotional connections to a truth that on the face of it seems wrong. I recall moments of conversations I have had with people I have no recollection of meeting. I see images of buildings that I have never seen, yet I know the shape. Sometimes, I will know what the caller is about to say the second before they say it. Now, understand me: this is not Deja Vu. This is something that I know, in my gut, is truth - just not the truth of my present, or of this history. I... hmmm... how can I explain? I recall, very clearly, that the Merida quake happened on March 15th 2049. That date is precise and clear in my mind - and it's wrong. The quake happened in April, It's in all the papers, all of the reports, all of the books. The great Merida quake... of April, 2049. I even know what I was doing on the day it happened, and that day was in April, but in my gut, I know it happened in March. I can SEE it. Is there anyone else out there experiencing something similar? Are some things different as you remember them? Tell me I'm not alone in this. Something... has changed.
eternal talon
do the the collectors know about the worldlines
yes. they have travelled through at the very least several hundred, perhaps thousands, or many more.
they built the device
eternal talon
**Well, for the last few months, I have been... experiencing things that I can't...
hm... i don't know. its strange.
drowsy adder
so the whole time our warden have been working with other warden
eternal talon
we don't know, but probably.
drowsy adder
so there is a timeline with no Nam V and the parasite
eternal talon
yes. an infinite number of them.
drowsy adder
unlucky
eternal talon
there are just also an infinite number of worldlines with the virus and the parasite
in the jumbled mess of r8, there is just the one we had access to -- the jungle worldline.
drowsy adder
so that Durant never went to Alpha desert
eternal talon
correct
drowsy adder
how did the NAM V get to Alpha?
royal crow
We dont know
drowsy adder
and are the Flyer just the NAM V
eternal talon
wdym?
royal crow
Fliers are aliens infected by the virus and parasite
eternal talon
nam-v by itself cannot create sleepers.
royal crow
Same with krakens
eternal talon
destination was infected long before earth
royal crow
They are alien sleepers
drowsy adder
where do the parasite come from
eternal talon
7 billion years, in fact.
drowsy adder
i thought the parasite was an earth thing
eternal talon
where do the parasite come from
we don't know
royal crow
where do the parasite come from
We don't know
royal crow
both came from the crashed ship
And both came from somewhere else
eternal talon
^ @drowsy adder read all of this except the "gameplay summary" part.
the gameplay summary is innacurate/outofdate
then get back to me with any remaining questions
drowsy adder
does Jungle Durant know of the sleepers?
royal crow
No
drowsy adder
An alarming increase in the suicide rate has been detected among Santonian employees at Garganta in the second half of 2052. 34.7% of the SMC workforce have reported psychological disturbances. Medical teams are dealing with the issue the best they can and suggest having regular "day-breaks" for all employees to allow them to relax at surface-level coastal camps.
why do people start having breakdowns?
royal crow
Nam-V
eternal talon
one of the main -- first -- symptoms of nam-v, yeah
drowsy adder
how do they both work together
eternal talon
** What are Sleepers?
Sleepers are the final product of a NAM-V - Parasite infestation. NAM-V is extremely infectious and has a lethality rate of 100%.
Sleepers are created by the Parasite with NAM-V present. The Parasite was originally a victim of NAM-V and over time they have formed a Symbiotic relationship, with the Virus keeping the Parasite alive and active for undefined lengths of time, perhaps forever.
This allows NAM-V to maintain its hyper lethality without burning itself out of food or fuel to continue spreading, often hibernating for tens of thousands if not millions of years between outbreaks.
NAM-V also has a multipronged attack strategy, making it incredibly difficult to fight against and lending credence to the idea that it is not natural in origin and was some form of creation or bioweapon.
**
from further down in the doc
drowsy adder
thanks sorry
eternal talon
basically, nam-v is super crazy infectious, and super crazy lethal
without help, it'd kill everything on a planet in a matter of months, and starve itself to death
the parasite and the parasite's hosts by extension, keep the virus from running out of "fuel"
so to say.
they are a bottomless clip for the virus' rocket launcher.
drowsy adder
in one of the logs it talks about a higher up getting beam from the ship
eternal talon
the parasite and its hosts have no threats to them... because everything else is dead a million times over
royal crow
in one of the logs it talks about a higher up getting beam from the ship
Yesh there were weapons in the alien spaceship
drowsy adder
the ship as not destroy over time
royal crow
They got activated and made the drop holes we use later on for our expeditions
eternal talon
Yesh there were weapons in the alien spaceship
**Dr Hammerstein,
The trace analysis on the residue found in the shafts after the October 12th event has been completed. It was mostly molten rock and metal, the composition of which confirms the blasts were high energy focused QGP streams, at a temperature that was only thought to have occurred during the Big Bang.
According to the BIOCOM navigation data supplied by Mr. Piros, the streams appear to have been deliberately targeted at areas where security operatives were engaged with the creatures during the attack. The QGP streams originated from the Inner but the creatures had by that point overrun much of Garganta, which is why we see such a wide spread of shafts across the facility.
Interestingly, none of the shafts created by the QGP streams caused flooding in the facility. The streams stopped short of the seabed, except for several shafts which penetrated the seabed within the perimeter of the sea walls, so no flooding occurred. This seems unlikely to be a coincidence. Unfortunately, one of the streams did hit the helipad outside hangar 3, which is where Mr Clinton was believed to be. His death would have been instantaneous. The results suggest this was a weapon. Whether it was aimed at us or the creatures is not clear, but it did turn the tide in our favor. Kovac drove the creatures back to the Inner shortly after the blasts (or the creatures retreated voluntarily – we only have a single Kovac report to go by and that paints them as the heroes of the October 12th event).**
**The trace analysis has left us with more questions than answers.
-
Who or what fired the streams?
-
We have created quark-gluon plasma in hadron colliders, but nothing even close to this power or temperature, so how were the QGP streams formed? Is there a machine or artifact we have yet to find?
-
This level of exotic matter control is beyond our understanding of the physical laws of the universe, so how was the intensity of the sub-atomic streams controlled?
-
Was the purpose of the streams to kill us, or the creatures? It worked in our favor to control the onslaught, but we lost hundreds of people in the blasts (though some may have been lost or taken by the creatures).
-
If the purpose of the blasts were to kill the creatures, why? Does something else see them as a threat?
Nolan Connor B229**
royal crow
I don't think that was neccesary
eternal talon
not for you, no, but for the person reading. i was just linking it to your comment 😉
royal crow
You could have made it like 4 paragraphs shorter lol
eternal talon
the ship as not destroy over time
surprisingly, no. it was made of some fancy material called Cretasum-77a.
alien stuff...
deus ex machina
drowsy adder
all goes back to alien stuff
royal crow
Aliens being aliens
eternal talon
yepp
royal crow
drowsy adder
do we every in-game get a task from BIOCOM and not the Warden?
eternal talon
i'm not sure there is an easy way to tell, really.
the warden is controlling us through biocom.
it took over the system
drowsy adder
"would warp into our reality and crash into the earth, landing in the Yucatan Peninsula, and wiping out the dinosaurs.
In the 16th century, earthquakes in the Chicxulub region releases NAM-V into the environment, spreading outward from the village of Ixil, and killing the local populous. NAM-V would later be referred to by them as "Flea Demons".
Luckily for all life on earth, at the time the region was far too isolated for it to spread, and it quickly consumed all its food, and died out."
should it have lived with the parasite?
eternal talon
should it have lived with the parasite?
you would think, but then we wouldn't have the game gtfo now would we.
drowsy adder
i guess not
eternal talon
if they came into contact with the parasite and by extension sleepers of the collectors or alien species catalogued in the ship, they would have had to have fought them back enough to not have ended the world
honest summit
"would warp into our reality and crash into the earth, landing in the Yucatan Pe...
local population were still only local. they were not taking flights to florida
royal crow
Yeah that was a long time ago
They didnt had any way of moving fast
They were just there for the most part
eternal talon
if they came into contact with the parasite and by extension sleepers of the col...
including sending all of those that fought them in suicide missions, to be left trapped in the ship when the caves closed again
drowsy adder
"Bishop, who was a part of EF01 was gone from earth for about a week and a half, but perceived time as though he was on Destination for 2 years." so the outbreak happen already then the EF01 squad went to a world that was already fuck by NAMV and parasite
royal crow
including sending all of those that fought them in suicide missions, to be left ...
Well too bad so sad
They got wiped so they must have had skill issue
drowsy adder
and Bishop was the only one to make it out?
royal crow
Yes
eternal talon
"Bishop, who was a part of EF01 was gone from earth for about a week and a half,...
destination has been infected for at least 7 billion years.
eternal talon
destination's time is 85x faster than our own
their universe is just... faster
like, time moves faster
eternal talon
they sent through plants i think a day or two, maybe a week before the ef01 mission launched. when they went through, the plants looked like they were LONG dead, dried into practically dust.
drowsy adder
i mean the human Sleepers
eternal talon
i mean the human Sleepers
some, yes. missions like r6cx/dx come to mind.
clearly more people than just the ef01 team were sent through in the original worldline, given the infrastructure
royal crow
Or maybe even people from other worldlines that ended up there too
eternal talon
indeed.
drowsy adder
how Dr. Rebecca stokes and other know how the cubes and Matterwave work?
eternal talon
how Dr. Rebecca stokes and other know how the cubes and Matterwave work?
stokes was one of the lead researchers for project insight. they were the ones responsible for researching the artifacts.
they built the housing around the matter wave projector, and reverse engineered or otherwise designed their own teleporters
drowsy adder
is that black thing Cretasium-77A
eternal talon
Gallus Hammerstein, the head of insight, was leading manned expeditions directly into the ship
eternal talon
is that black thing Cretasium-77A
we don't know if the crystals are cretasium.
drowsy adder
"November 25, 2056: Biocom stops taking commands, leaving workers to die in locked zones deep within the complex." did the warden kill the works to slow down the NAM V?
eternal talon
the floaters appear to consume/absorb them, and they are the only known creatures to be able to teleport... so its a similarity in ability
if its the crystals doing it, that is
eternal talon
"November 25, 2056: Biocom stops taking commands, leaving workers to die in lock...
debated, but i'd say its more likely than not.
i'd say to to slow down the parasite more than the virus at this point, though
as nam-v had already gotten out
the parasite never made it to the surface in the original worldline
the warden stopped it by sealing the doors.
so in OG, if r8 didn't happen and the worldlines didn't merge, nam-v would have run out of "fuel" and died out so the earth could have recovered...
albeit, with the ticking timebomb still beneath the crater
drowsy adder
what was Maddox part in Schaeffer plans?
eternal talon
what was Maddox part in Schaeffer plans?
gunsmith.
royal crow
Make weapons
eternal talon
its a joke about weapon customization
drowsy adder
did not know lol
royal crow
We would have gotten a BFG :(
drowsy adder
then he got his "Hacker"
eternal talon
he dies in r7a1. schaeffer fucks up, he didn't have/know about the required hydrokinetic fluid
royal crow
then he got his "Hacker"
engineer
eternal talon
maddox's brain turned to slush
attacked him, schaeff killed maddox in self defense.
drowsy adder
*engineer*
lol
royal crow
Nobody calls themselves a fucking hacker
-Henrikson
eternal talon
oh boy.
pable, you take this one
the technically aren't zombies story
i'll let you have the gruesome honor
drowsy adder
seems like a fucked up mimic
royal crow
the *technically aren't zombies* story
ejem 🤓
Sleepers are not zombies at all
The definition of a zombie is someone death brought back to life
However
Since most of the head is intact we can say the brain is too
royal crow
Which means the "person" is still alive inside the body
So the Snatcher is most likely suffering
A painful
Really painful
eternal talon
do we know why the grabber looks like a human
it was human, and still might be, somewhere in there
royal crow
Death
eternal talon
Really painful
endless torture
drowsy adder
we are in it sometimes
royal crow
endless torture
Until we kill em 🙏
eternal talon
the parasite wouldn't allow it
drowsy adder
he has a friends sometimes
eternal talon
all the sleepers we see, barring floaters, kraken, and the big floaters, are infected humans
we haven't seen an infected collector or the other species in the ship
drowsy adder
does Schaeffer kill the mimic cause it works for the warden that it right
eternal talon
i mean we have seen other species, but not in an official sense
royal crow
does Schaeffer kill the mimic cause it works for the warden that it right
Yes
In OG R6
eternal talon
wtf is mon the left
we don't know. it only appeared once, in the really old soundtrack video on 10cc's youtube
was probably scrapped very early on,
like the original snatcher (on the right)
royal crow
Cute
drowsy adder
does the Dev interview say anything else on the Grabber?
eternal talon
wdym?
drowsy adder
do they just say it maybe a alive human?
drowsy adder
oh
eternal talon
wholesale, they've said the sleepers, the enemies in gtfo aren't zombies, aliens, etc
which is funny because we do have alien enemies now
in the floaters
but back then it was just the normal sleepers
drowsy adder
why is Schaeffer crazy
eternal talon
three reasons.
eternal talon
- abusive upbringing.
- being the last survivor in garganta and being subjected to hydrostasis for an extended period
- being the last survivor in garganta (again) for months after the squad of KSOs the warden assigned him to were wiped out and he was left for dead.
he has spent a lot of time alone down here
eternal talon
eh, he has severe issues with trusting people.
thin surge
the constant data stack updates to go back to hydro stasis until he got the control chip out probably didn't help that
drowsy adder
did he always have a chip?
thin surge
no, only when he was inducted into the legion program
drowsy adder
do they get chip in the pods
eternal talon
he was implanted with one automatically when he entered a hydrostasis unit
drowsy adder
okay
eternal talon
he wasn't even originally in legion. this is all post-apocalypse stuff here
dauda included
drowsy adder
how does he get rid of it
eternal talon
schaeff was just some middle management man working in the mines
eternal talon
how does he get rid of it
surgically.
through some machine...
we haven't seen it.
you hear it do its thing to henrikkson in r7c1
gray bone
We get rid of it by... passing through an MRI machine?
eternal talon
We get rid of it by... passing through an MRI machine?
fry it or brick it, i guess.
but its still in our heads
drowsy adder
Recording recording recording recording… Hey hey hey don’t move! What are you?
Conduit
Do not be afraid my friend. Yes. How are you today? Are you a dog or a cat person?
[Pause]
Schaeffer
What… what the… what the fuck are you?!
Conduit
I am human. We are not so different, you and I.
Schaeffer
You… stay where you are! Are you… are you a prisoner?
[Long pause]
Are you human?!
[Long pause]
eternal talon
different method
drowsy adder
why id the mimic called a conduit
eternal talon
why id the mimic called a conduit
because the community used to call it the mimic before we knew more about what it really was
thin surge
becasue it is the conduit that is speaking for the warden to shaeffer
eternal talon
its common
coral gorge
Lol
royal crow
Omg Cubix
coral gorge
tbh thats just GTFO plot in a nutshell
eternal talon
hey cubix
coral gorge
hello people
royal crow
eternal talon
eternal talon
luigi mode activated
coral gorge
10cc orchestrated lugi to promote DoW?!
eternal talon
who tf is lugi?
coral gorge
just like they did with covid?!
eternal talon
lmao
eternal talon
lmaoooo
royal crow
Lugi
eternal talon
you did it again
royal crow
Cubix go back to sleep
eternal talon
time zones
coral gorge
stfu or lugi will find you
eternal talon
10:46 over here.
drowsy adder
11:48
eternal talon
damn. that's gotta be AM, otherwise you are an islander
drowsy adder
PM
drowsy adder
nope
drowsy adder
mountain
gray bone
sometimes I wonder just where you pull all these pictures from
coral gorge
damn. that's gotta be AM, otherwise you are an islander
imagine if we had the only person living in iceland on this discord
gray bone
I can never make a library of stuff that would even operate remotely coherently
eternal talon
sometimes I wonder just where you pull all these pictures from
sometimes you just gotta say fuck it and make a library-esque sorting system
its harder to remember what you have than what you don't, but if your archive gets big enough, you usually have it
higher quality than just googing it too.
i mean, time zone maps are handy
great at freaking people out
coral gorge
great at freaking people out
why
eternal talon
they offhand mention what time it is and you narrow in...
coral gorge
lol
eternal talon
common questions. time zone then hemisphere for the season/weather
there are ways
its funny
coral gorge
the most GTFO player answer would be „how the hell would i know that, i dont go outside”
eternal talon
then you've got the people who keep their home on steam or social media
coral gorge
I just barely use social media, good luck stalking me fuckers
coral gorge
I am everywhere at once
eternal talon
(not gonna get more specific than that in a public channel)
i know not everybody is that open.
coral gorge
(not gonna get more specific than that in a public channel)
HE LIVES ON PLANET EARTH IN A PLACE WHERE THE SKY IS BLUE
eternal talon
(i'm in portland or, come get me fuckers)
coral gorge
(i'm in portland or, come get me fuckers)
lol
Do you own a musket for home defence?
coral gorge
hm
Thats rather lethal
coral gorge
though can't exactly dual wield unfortunately.
not with that attitude
eternal talon
a 20 and a 12
coral gorge
Alr well i gtg, have fun in lore chat
eternal talon
see ya
nimble saddle
Guys wwhat is Hackett's lore is it somethin more than that one mission goin horribly wwrong and him killin people there
cedar adder
At young age lived in a mansion with his family on an island in the middle of nowhere. Is psychopathic/sociopathic. His father seems to have been abusive. Hackett is implied to have pushed off his mother off a cliff when he was 5, definitely has shot his brother a couple years later. Joined Kovac as an adult, then you know what happened. After the incident voluntarily singed for Legion as a means to escape his predicament
nimble saddle
Wwait wwhere is the information about his family and his life
I had no idea that existsd
ashen sphinx
Are you writing all Ws double for no reason or did your keyboard break?
royal crow
So we can all agree Hackett was a good kid
coral gorge
So we can all agree Hackett was a good kid
and so was Jeffrey Dahmer
cedar adder
Wwait wwhere is the information about his family and his life
it's all in da logs
primarily r5 I believe
royal crow
and so was Jeffrey Dahmer
indeed
west pebble
HE LIVES ON PLANET EARTH IN A PLACE WHERE THE SKY IS BLUE
meanwhile england: "wait the sky's blue?"
coral gorge
meanwhile england: "wait the sky's blue?"
mate, you forgot that england isnt a real place, just a made up story to scare children that if they behave badly a man speaking weirdly will come and force them to drink tea
nimble saddle
primarily r5 I believe
Thank you
nimble saddle
Are you writing all Ws double for no reason or did your keyboard break?
It's a typin quirk sort of thing
next scroll
mate, you forgot that england isnt a real place, just a made up story to scare c...
Tf is France then? a myth?
raw terrace
yes
honest summit
Tf is France then? a myth?
Thats why we should Nuke france to make Sure it stays one 
coral gorge
Tf is France then? a myth?
always has been
next scroll
always has been
tame lintel
So
I wonder, is it explained at any point how come Warden was able to regain control of the OG squad back in R8?
I always assumed it was because of the worldlines merging, so it was the ALT warden exerting its influence over the OG squad
Alternatively, was it a case of the trojan just not being enough to take down an alien construct lmao
royal crow
So
I wonder, is it explained at any point how come Warden was able to regain con...
the warden never had control over the OG squad in R8
that was schaeffer controlling us
and then we break out of his control
tame lintel
So the objectives glitching out B4 was just us breaking out of it?
tame lintel
Fair enough
tame lintel
I guess D2 and E2 HSU drop is just a technical limitation more than anything
to start a mission
tame lintel
makes sense yeah
royal crow
lorewise we walk from D2 to E2
tame lintel
makes sense
I kinda assumed that as shit hit the fan with the reactor meltdown the OG squad became sort of a backup for Warden but them just breaking their conditioning similar to how both Schaeffers did it makes a lot more sense
spare birch
It'd be cool of we got a fade-in instead of HSU drop for D2 and E2, but I imagine trying to make it work would be a real headache
solar nova
eternal talon
ngl even a fade from black would have been better
royal crow
Guys once Trumps renames Gulf of México to Gulf of América pls make sure to update the Gtfo lore 🙏🙏🙏
eternal talon
Rip
drowsy adder
Why is there no alt 7 rundown?
raw terrace
Why is there no alt 7 rundown?
in lore reasons, is cuz schaeffer was good in the ALTs and he never needed a buddy henriksson to take down the warden
gray bone
Insane scaffer does not exist in alt universe
raw terrace
so like that whole thing didnt happened- the missions probs did
but his story arc didnt
royal crow
Why is there no alt 7 rundown?
Schaeffer works with the warden in ALT
So no revolution
No ALT R7
raw terrace
in gameplay reasons- its just the fact that the ALTs started when r7 was out and kept it
no need for a new ALT when the og was always there
raw terrace
honest summit
Why is there no alt 7 rundown?
If you think about it, the Point of R7 was for Warden to create another conduit for another attempt at communicating with people, since the First one was piped by OG Shaeffer. But since Alt Shaeffer listened to the First conduit, there is No Point in creating the Second one
drowsy adder
I was looking at one of the mission objectives for one of the alt rundown and it actually talk about the conduit
Or calls it the conduit
If the Warden can already communicate with us through BIOCOM why need the conduit
coral gorge
If the Warden can already communicate with us through BIOCOM why need the condui...
Warden didnt want „us”, it wanted to talk to scheaffer
who is out of the network
So it didnt really have a choice
drowsy adder
Why does the Warden want to talk to him
coral gorge
Why does the Warden want to talk to him
Most likely to avoid the OG wordline situation where scheaffer goes insane and fucks the warden
drowsy adder
Thanks
drowsy adder
He is the wild card
coral gorge
but thats prolly just some bs and the warden simply wanted to get rid of scheaffer
coral gorge
He is the wild card
yeh
honest summit
For Warden KSOs are lobotomised mindless Killing drones. Shaeffer on the other Hand Has escaped the system and can think for himself
honest summit
Why does the Warden want to talk to him
.
drowsy adder
👍
royal crow
If the Warden can already communicate with us through BIOCOM why need the condui...
Communicate to us? Yes
To schaeffer? No
He removed his chip
Warden has no way to do anything with him without the chip
eternal talon
Most likely to avoid the OG wordline situation where scheaffer goes insane and f...
"goes insane and fucks the warden"
- Cubix, 1/21/25
coral gorge
"goes insane and fucks the warden"
- Cubix, 1/21/25
gtfo lore in a nutshell
royal crow
Is there a good wibsite to find the main character voice lines
GTFO wiki
It has everything
royal crow
Most likely to avoid the OG wordline situation where scheaffer goes insane and f...
I wish i was the Warden
honest summit
Is there a good wibsite to find the main character voice lines
There is a vid on YouTube with all voicelines under different conditions
Check Out Dark emperor, He Has a Archive with all R8 voicelines
coral gorge
seems the wiki does not have the r8e1 voice lines
they should be in R8 logs
drowsy adder
Check Out Dark emperor, He Has a Archive with all R8 voicelines
He only had Woods lines when he find out what happens at the end of R8E1
thanks for telling me about Dark Emperor
eternal talon
eternal talon
both have access to all canonical resources. last CEO standing wins.
honest summit
does Dreyfus get access to the matterwave technology even though they are not the ones who developed it?
eternal talon
does Dreyfus get access to the matterwave technology even though they are not th...
yes... but they can't get the help of multiple dreyfuses
unless you are considering they enter a world that also has umbrella corp, and its a 2v2
honest summit
yes... but they can't get the help of multiple dreyfuses
ight. tp the CEO to another dimension and let him wait out till the Umbrela CEO dies of old age
EZ clap
eternal talon
ight. tp the CEO to another dimension and let him wait out till the Umbrela CEO ...
woah woah woah that's way easier said than done. how would they get to them?
also who IS the ceo of umbrella corp?
ah, the old man in the wheel chair iirc
oswald spencer
royal crow
Send Spencer to Destination
honest summit
royal crow
Lets see how long he lasts
honest summit
Send Spencer to Destination
nah, the CEO of Dreyfus
eternal talon
both companies can start the apocalypse, yes, but its who can hold out the longest
how old is each ceo
if you wanna go "fuck off to a different worldline" route
royal crow
both companies can start the apocalypse, yes, but its who can hold out the longe...
Well
Wesker exist
He solos GTFO
royal crow
Nah
But he used to work for Umbrella
eternal talon
and i think he becomes the new ceo in 5, but i could be misremembering
its a very old game
royal crow
Nah
But he used to work for Umbrella
So i'm counting him in the ecuation
eternal talon
Well
Wesker exist
would wesker be able to uroboros the nam-v/parasite?
maybe the parasite, but x to doubt for nam-v
royal crow
Yeah i was going to say that
Parasite is likely
Nam-V isnt
Maybe even use the Parasite as a controlled weapon
eternal talon
how well defended is janson davies?
honest summit
both have access to all canonical resources. last CEO standing wins.
so is the CEO allowed to be changed?
honest summit
how well defended is janson davies?
yeah then going to another dimension is the best defense
eternal talon
yeah then going to another dimension is the best defense
which worldline though? it wouldn't be the clean one, as only durant made it there
royal crow
Entire armies and soldiers
honest summit
which worldline though? it wouldn't be the clean one, as only durant made it the...
Let him hang out with Dr Durand
royal crow
Ez clap
honest summit
in that case Dreyfus has no chance LMAO. They are just a fuck ton of mercenraries
maybe if each of them were on HUNK level it might be possible
eternal talon
in that case Dreyfus has no chance LMAO. They are just a fuck ton of mercenrarie...
this was the original intention for the poll,
royal crow
Yeah Dreyfus gets clapped hard
royal crow
maybe if each of them were on HUNK level it might be possible
Hunk solos GTFO perfect squad
eternal talon
yeah, but could he last longer than the other if both start the apocalypse
eternal talon
Hunk solos GTFO perfect squad
idk about that... its a 1v4 against the best in the multiverse
hunk is opaf in the umbrella universe, but he is outnumbered
i'd say they would be equals
no?
honest summit
idk. Hunk is a professional. the GTFO Squad is a bunch of diletants
royal crow
no?
Not really
I mean they are good and all
But the GTFO gang are just not really that good compared to other highly skilled soldiers
One is a scientist and the other a fucking IT dumbass
The only ones that can put up a real fight is Hackett or Woods
And even then they Will probably fall short compared to someone like Hunk
tranquil sentinel
who has the plot armour
whose story is it and what is it about
triumph or death?
eternal talon
What
If it's a fight to the death then there is no plot armor
Canonically our squad has first tried every expedition with all optionals
That is a feat enough on its own
north obsidian
is gtfo canon to the irl timeline
honest summit
is gtfo canon to the irl timeline
Ngl Amazon Lobotomised mercenaries would Go hard
coral gorge
Ngl Amazon Lobotomised mercenaries would Go hard
All hail Jeff Bezos the almighty
honest summit
All hail Jeff Bezos the almighty
Think about it. Have you ever Seen any Toilets in Garganta? 
lone beacon
All hail Jeff Bezos the almighty
Buff Jesus be praised 🙏
coral gorge
Think about it. Have you ever Seen any Toilets in Garganta? <:peepogrin:98598570...
what?! No! Thats no correlation to amazon! We all know that our slaves employees at Amazon™️ have access to wonderful bathrooms, food and breakes longer than 2 seconds!
eternal talon
honest summit
eternal talon
north obsidian
would r8a2 sec be considered canon
coral gorge
would r8a2 sec be considered canon
pretty much no
north obsidian
am i canon
coral gorge
perhaps
like someone said before
us having this conversation is canon in the GTFO multi-worldline-verse-thing
however, a GTFO dimension existing parrarel to us is not canon in real life
royal crow
Guys
Can we change the info of the GTFO lore document
Gulf of México isnt right
👉 👈
coral gorge
lmao
but wait
if GTFO takes place in 2050s
and the gulf of mexico is still the gulf of mexico in the game
then that means that Trump not winning the 2024 election caused a butterfly effect that caused nam-v to break out and doom humanity
HENCE Trump saved us from nam-v
||/j||
tame lintel
broken rivet
not the arise-heart
valid phoenix
royal crow
eternal talon
Can we stop with the memes pls?
This channel is dead enough as is, we don't need to spit on its corpse
royal crow
we should make our own lore
eternal talon
Homebrew a gtfo 2
The foundations of gtfo are very interesting.
You could make tons of cool stories from it.
An impossible to stop virus
A parasite that you never want to be infected by that horribly mutates you.
Ancient aliens that crashed and left artifacts behind.
Ancient mayans fighting against these infected individuals/creatures that they view as demons.
The MWP, the artifact that allows you to travel through space to anywhere or anything.
And so many more
The abandoned garganta facility
The final days of the survivors fending off endless waves of infested
The expeditions into the ancient collector ship by scientists
Gtfo lore has a whole hell of a lot of stuff
I think the primary fault with it, was the trickle of adding to it over time
Having the full picture now, and all the little details...
It heavily reminds me of times when you'd finish writing a story -- and knowing the beginning middle and end, you know that if you'd write it again from the start knowing what you know now and where you want it to go, that it'd be a billion times better.
As it stands, the story of gtfo would be best served as a sort of... rough draft
And a sequel, if it would ever come, should take everything we have now and rewrite it, doing it better.
That's why I can't fault it.
Plot holes galore... n' all...
It's fucking incredible.
It just needs more drafts
We have all the pieces now. Waaaaay more than we had back around the time ogr6 launched and we started getting spammed with story.
I'm not sure in retrospect that r8 is a good ending... as the whole "alt" thing, and splitting the story into two parts.
If we followed OG exclusively from beginning to end, it might have been better.
royal crow
I'm not sure in retrospect that r8 is a good ending... as the whole "alt" thing,...
i wouldnt say its a good ending too
but they did a good work with what they had
eternal talon
Let alt still exist if it must, but have it be in the background.
eternal talon
i wouldnt say its *a* good ending too
but they did a good work with what they ha...
We both know they wouldn't have worked out a couple more rundowns.
But even if they did...
It's kind of a bit of a hole, you know?
There isn't much to go with the story
royal crow
im 100% sure back in OGR6 they wanted to do something bigger
it feels like they were building up a massive story
but they either realised GTFO wasnt gonna last or DoW was already in the first development stages
eternal talon
The pre-apocalypse is infinitely more interesting, as I'm sure the devs came to realize, as over 90% of the story is from back then
If gtfo was remade, a prequel would have been better, I think
Have actual NPCs...
Set it during the fall
A final stand sort of ending like what we got would have fit far better
royal crow
a full stealth game playing as schaeffer
i would like that
maybe not full stealth
but heavily stealth focused
eternal talon
Imagine going from (relatively) pristine labs with dozens of scientists and empoyees... going through a kovac checkpoint... and the zone you enter has all the lights shattered and there are sleepers everywhere
It'd be like you were actively fighting for what little space was left
You have a retreat segment... you use the giant vault doors from the 2019 trailer.
You could even implement a player hub, or have a sort of interactive map with infested zones with where the missions are
At the end of the game have that player hub overrun and you fight to buy time for the civilians to extract to the more surface level zones
Fighting in a previously "safe" zone
Gtfo is just fucking oozing with potential
royal crow
im certain they will be back to GTFO in a far future
i dont think they will waste the potential of it
(again)
royal crow
keep the main concepts
change the "game"?
eternal talon
keep the main concepts
change the "game"?
I'd say so.
People outside of this channel specially wouldn't agree with me I think, as it'd practically be a different genre, but i don't think you can have the same depth post-apocslypse as you can during.
At least in the context of gtfo's apocalypse
It's not like TLOA
There's just nobody fucking left
They wrote goku and made him a virus
It's just a shame how gtfo turned out.
At least it is something I can pull endlessly from for my dieselpunk/apocalyptic dnd campaigns.
royal crow
They wrote goku and made him a virus
thats the best description of Nam-v i have seen so far
plush nest
Imagine going from (relatively) pristine labs with dozens of scientists and empo...
Adding to this you could basically have the same game just more fleshed out
nimble saddle
Gtfo is just fucking oozing with potential
exactly it's sad they aren't working on it anymore
tame goblet
Take what we have and rework it.
Remove the alternate dimension crap. The complex and the virus are amazing, the dimensions are shit.
Just a sole story about prisoners escaping the complex, no dimensions, no teleportation.
worn rivet
New stuff to read yay
eternal talon
Remove the alternate dimension crap. The complex and the virus are amazing, the ...
Imo you can have it in the background with the collectors and how they used it/got here.
You can just never implement it and say that it was not able to be recovered/used by humans.
I mean if you think about it, it's already a stretch that we would be able to reverse engineer the teleporters and build the housing for the MWP, let alone know how to use it accurately.
It's why I said in my previous post that the story honestly would have been better off cutting the alt:// stuff, and exclusively following og
R8 was a bit of a rushed conclusion
And one not wholly satisfying
But they wrote themselves into a hole regarding that.
tame goblet
Yeah I think teleportation from the collectors in the background would be viable. I like the whole legion/baby thing they had going on, imo they should have capitalized on it and done something like the prisoners start waking up other prisoners to build an army. KDS deep was wasted in that potential.
eternal talon
Imo pre-appcalypse >>> post-apocalypse in terms of when a gtfo game should be set
No satisfying ending for post-apocalypse given everybody is already dead, verifiably
tame goblet
I always thought the aspect of having the surface world still alive and thriving is was more horror driven than an already dead one. What are the prisoners fighting for then?
Having a viable surface where the world carries on is more dread envoking because the prisoners know that they're stuck down there suffering while everyone else carries on like normal.
eternal talon
Yeah I think teleportation from the collectors in the background would be viable...
I think what they did in r7d1 was interesting with the infant... like many things, it would have benefited from a much deeper dive
eternal talon
I always thought the aspect of having the surface world still alive and thriving...
I agree.
tame goblet
I don't even get the conduit crap still. Like R8E1 ending was dog. Makes no sense, was the conduit trying to save itself or the prisoners.
WASTED POTENTIAL
eternal talon
I don't even get the conduit crap still. Like R8E1 ending was dog. Makes no sens...
Iirc the warden was creating the conduits to try and communicate with the survivors/prisoners, mainly schaeffer. By the time it had a good enough version (u22/u23), og schaeffer killed it and alt:// listened to it.
In r8, the warden is oddly absent.
It told schaeffer about escaping to a clean worldline... but the motive for why is left unsaid
Why help us?
worn rivet
Yeah he couldve been there even just as a final goodbye or something during og teams escape
eternal talon
Why would this completely alien being care about our plight?
worn rivet
Or it couldve tryed to help the alt team during they're last stand
eternal talon
The warden has access to 32 THOUSAND ksos after r5e1.
Yet we never see another team, period
We barely "assist" another team in r6c3. Where we serve as a distraction in another part of the complex
worn rivet
Even just a hint that its watching or a message about possible reinforcements inbound, which could hint about the og teams efforts
worn rivet
Even just a hint that its watching or a message about possible reinforcements in...
Along with this, why didnt we get to put schaffers ass down ourselves
eternal talon
I'd much prefer a game with significantly reduced scale if every minute of it is as deep and rich as the story could make it.
worn rivet
Imagine after so long of no npcs the first one we see is followed by us killing them
eternal talon
Along with this, why didnt we get to put schaffers ass down ourselves
"We" "drown him"... by inputting a code in a terminal.
His corpse is baked into the zone customprefab.
It's so disappointing
worn rivet
And the other slightly nicer one was beaten to death with a pipe
Of all things a pipe
eternal talon
Henri just vanishes
"Here is a pool of blood and a single sentence"
"An ID and a bloody pipe"
worn rivet
Wait doesn't in one of the r8 missions where he mentions trying to help them, a bloody badge with a pipe next it can be found
eternal talon
Idk about trying to help him, I don't remember, but yes.
worn rivet
No not helping him, him helping us stop Schaeffer from blowing the place up with a reactor
Which we then proceeded to do
royal crow
"An ID and a bloody pipe"
If thats Henri in the ID i have to say
Henri is kinda hot
tranquil sentinel
Schaeffer is a pipe loving megalomaniac
gray bone
someone needs to buy the scented candle and report back on its smells
I think spiff had... well, conflicting reports on how it smelled over his stream
loud urchin
so it's like marmite/vegemite/coriander
gray bone
yeah...
eternal talon
what does garganta smell like?
coral gorge
Probably like a shit ton of corpses
tranquil sentinel
Corpses + underground parking lot/hospital/sewers
Depending on where you find yourself in
hard linden
*what does garganta smell like?*
lavender
coral gorge
I'd much prefer a game with significantly reduced scale if every minute of it is...
yknow ive been thinking about this
And how about we just treat this like a bethesda game and mod it to such an extent its actually a good game
Surely that’d work
eternal talon
unlike bethesda, 10cc doesn't just give out creation kits/GEKs.
10cc is well known to not like people modding their game
we just dont have the same level as tools as the people that make skyrim total conversions
-- and even if we did, thats a lot of work
gray bone
modding's already done a heckin lot with it
royal crow
10cc is *well known* to not like people modding their game
Too bad
DoW is next
Lets mod the fuck out of it
coral gorge
we just dont have the same level as tools as the people that make skyrim total c...
ah yeah i suppose
plucky epoch
So in R7A1 what exacly are we doing when we do the recycle group 7a42 thing in the terminal?
I see in the background that it collects something but idk what the significance is
royal crow
So in R7A1 what exacly are we doing when we do the recycle group 7a42 thing in...
Take out Madox's HSU
plucky epoch
Who is Maddox?
royal crow
One of the characters Schaeffer wanted to recruit for his revolution
As well as Henrikson and us
royal crow
Madox was supposed to be the guy that makes weapons for us
plucky epoch
Ohhhhh
royal crow
But he died
plucky epoch
So Schaffer wanted to take him out of hydrostasis to make weapons but he had to kill him because Maddox attacked him for some reason?
royal crow
Yeah
The reason why Madox attacked was because Schaeffer woke him up wrong
And Madox's brain was becoming liquid
So he went insane and tried to attack schaeffer
Thats why in B1 we are sent by Schaeffer to retrieve some chemicals or something
So he can wake up Henrikson right
plucky epoch
Ohhhhh okay that makes more sense now
Thank you
Ohhhh is that why in the the logs he talks about the hydrostasis stuff?
royal crow
Yeah
plucky epoch
Was Maddox part of any other level? Or was it just r7a1
royal crow
Was Maddox part of any other level? Or was it just r7a1
Just A1
plucky epoch
Dang they really like yeah let's introduce this character and kill him off like 30 seconds later lmao
royal crow
Well
You can see his name in R6CX
In schaeffer hideout
And theres like 2 logs where scafer mentions him
And thats it
plucky epoch
Oh
worn rivet
I've been studying how viruses work and how they've described the one in GTFO is really well done
It also work weirdly similar to other video game viruses and diseases such as cordecyps with the whole spores and fog thing, and also the half life one with the whole they could be consuises inside the infected.
plucky epoch
So sleepers strikers and shooters are just variations of people right. So what are tanks/mothers/snatchers. just other versions of humans with the virus? Do they like merge many people into a single monster to make a tank/mother/snatcher?
royal crow
So sleepers strikers and shooters are just variations of people right. So what a...
Yes
The tank is 3 people in one
worn rivet
So sleepers strikers and shooters are just variations of people right. So what a...
Yes and its horrific to think about
royal crow
Think of it like Dead Space
Brutes, tormentors, bipods, tripods etc are made of multiple people
Same here
royal wraith
So sleepers strikers and shooters are just variations of people right. So what a...
For sure if you get a good look at the mother and p-mom models they are multiple human bodies fused. Specifically if you look at the legs you can see the mixed limbs
eternal talon
i know the moms are... i dont think the tank is.
maybe i just need a better look at the model,
but i thought for sure the only face was the one on the center
long glacier
dayum thats a high res screenshot
wtf
why is my full texture quality so dog
feels like I'm playing Roblox compared to ur screenshot
😭
the white part low-key reminds me of beer foam
idk y
eternal talon
i've got better...
I just use the default f12 on steam
thick ridge
The 2 broken door panels on the left look like a wagyu steak
loud urchin
excellent marbling
wanton moss
i've got better...
I just use the default f12 on steam
Bro how is there so much texture in that?
eternal talon
idk... part of it is due to the old lighting engine from rundowns pre-r6, i know that. modern rundowns just look much worse in general.
these two pics are the same room/ceiling @wanton moss
first pic is from 2019, in OGr1.
second pic is from alt://r1
here are a couple more old pics.
royal crow
omg
wanton moss
Yeah that stuff looks yucky. Very interesting that it looks different.
royal crow
so old
eternal talon
the game was a lot more wet and dark. felt grimy and disgusting, as it should.
its meant to be horror
just look at the reflections on that apex door
wanton moss
Dude it kind of looks better on the old engine save for the ps1 foam.
eternal talon
foam back then didn't have textures yet.
royal crow
Dude it kind of looks better on the old engine save for the ps1 foam.
cumgun
raw terrace
its meant to be *horror*
horror doesnt like just mean dark and disgusting it can come in a lot of ways
eternal talon
_horror doesnt like just mean dark and disgusting it can come in a lot of ways_
true, but tone is a huge part of it.
royal crow
Slendo should be a game designer
raw terrace
Slendo should be a game designer
every game is gtfo 2
eternal talon
the complex is supposed to be an underground mining facility part research center.
raw terrace
i think, based on what ive seen
not all underground minin facilities are just oily
eternal talon
its been abandoned for at least half a decade
raw terrace
i dont like the old engine cuz everything looks so shiny
like its been freshly coated in saliva
royal crow
i think, based on what ive seen
not all underground minin facilities are just _o...
they are well kept :)
eternal talon
personally i love the old engine, far far more than the new one post r6.
levels were darker in general.
raw terrace
they are well kept :)
eh kinda made to just support more than two weeks
even 10 years wouldnt do much apart from rusting metals
eternal talon
raw terrace
maybe some walls down as we see ingame
wanton moss
I like the grimy look. That’s one of the reasons I got the game because it looks like a horror game
wanton moss
Eh. Beat game first, mod later
eternal talon
theres a mod for the old light if u wish
i know it tries to mimic the old engine... i haven't tried using it.
raw terrace
thats usually for game changing mods but as u will
raw terrace
i know it tries to mimic the old engine... i haven't tried using it.
ive seen screenshots it looks pretty ok
apart from one two bugs ive seen
wanton moss
I’ve only done duo trials as far as modding goes. I don’t want to change any of the game logic fixes that are allowed cause when I play base game I want to do it all vanilla.
eternal talon
I like the grimy look. That’s one of the reasons I got the game because it looks...
when i first started playing, the game felt scary as shit. i think the lighting and grittiness played a massive part in that.
sleepers were slimy looking too.
wanton moss
when i first started playing, the game felt scary as shit. i think the lighting ...
I mean you didn’t have knowledge on enemies and levels either. Game is terrifying when you don’t know anything about it yet.
raw terrace
thats every horror game ever tbh
wanton moss
We used to be scared of waking bigs, now we stealth hammer them.
eternal talon
its not quite the same, but the world premier trailer is much closer to that engine if you want to see some more of what it looked like back then.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-vSYJckIfi8
raw terrace
people who say "gtfo isnt scary" as vets are the same people who see the same horror movie 8 times and say they arent scared of horror any longer
like, yeah
raw terrace
its not quite the same, but the world premier trailer is much closer to that eng...
og r5 trailer
?
loud urchin
sleepers were slimy looking too.
just like a chimpanzee who's been playing in the muck... jokes aside the og lighting sweeps current lighting
eternal talon
people who say "gtfo isnt scary" as vets are the same people who see the same ho...
still, i don't think it is as good for new players either.
loud urchin
so much character
eternal talon
even if the scares don't get me like they used to
raw terrace
still, i don't think it is as good for new players either.
sorry what are u referring to here
what is not as good
i got a little lost
eternal talon
sorry what are u referring to here
what is not as good
comparing how gtfo looked in both the old and new engines. for new players, old engine would be scarier
loud urchin
sorry what are u referring to here
what is not as good
the shopping mall lighting
raw terrace
ohh- eh i guess it doesnt matter its not like im used to bringin it up either
only when someone else does
and i defend the new light anyway so
it really doesnt matter- i am number one gtfo defender
wanton moss
Bro that trailer is so good
I’m hyped to play GTFO again and I was just playing it until like 5AM
And was talking to you all about until almost 7 I think lol
raw terrace
my fav trailer is the new alt r5 trailer probs :] but dont watch it is spoily lol
u can watch the og trailer is similar
and it doesnt have like any spoils
i think
lemme check
eternal talon
modern has some good parts where it is dark, but the bright parts, are bright
raw terrace
oh and the gamescom trailer is amazing but that one is super spoily lmao
raw terrace
modern has some good parts where it is dark, but the bright parts, are *bright*
i kinda like how universal light is more, universal
wanton moss
modern has some good parts where it is dark, but the bright parts, are *bright*
The second tank room!
raw terrace
like a room- thats what a light up room is supposed to look
raw terrace
The second tank room!
teehee u wish
eternal talon
modern also primary has mono-color lighting in rooms, and often through entire levels. zones like this one are rare in the newer rundowns
which sucks, because they are beautiful
raw terrace
modern also primary has mono-color lighting in rooms, and often through entire l...
but thats not really the lighting fault
thats just more so how the rooms are done
wanton moss
Yeah the unique hub zone tiles are pretty rare.
raw terrace
occlu has some really cool mixed lights
also yes the og r5 trailer is like entirely spoiler free it just shows a tease of something the rundown has
eternal talon
but thats not really the lighting fault
its a level design problem, which i think is valid
lighting and levels go hand in hand
the alt:// rundowns show this.
raw terrace
i mean talking about old vs new lights, that really isnt the issue, is just how the new lights are used
which is another problem
cuz it still can be done its just not
honest summit
Wasnt the lighting system looking different because the fog effect was much thiccer?
raw terrace
i mean no it was overhauled on r6
idk if i get what u mean otherwise
wanton moss
In the reveal trailer Loremaster Frosty sent the fog did feel a little more mucky when it's lingering by the ground. Was cool how the flashlight iluminate a cone in the fog to.
That kind sounds stupid but that's just what I thought
long glacier
i think im kinda slow
but i lowkey think the glp-1 canisters are for making ozempic
i didnt read all the logs
cr4zy
long glacier
😋
queen gazelle
diabetes is such an insidious disease
The unit was diabetic
long glacier
schaffer was probably geeked on all those canisters
royal crow
I love diabetes
long glacier
maybe the warden has diabetes
worn rivet
in lore our characters have some ridicouls levels of plot armour
also coincedences are the entire reason we dont die in most of r8
just with the OG, wether it be neither of the 2 nuclear reactors we activate in r8e2 just not exploding after years of no use or us not running into the ALT team in any mission or how we dont die to the fuck ton of tanks in r8e2
royal crow
just with the OG, wether it be neither of the 2 nuclear reactors we activate in ...
We are not causing a nuclear explosion btw in R8
(Since im pretty sure modern nuclear reactors cant really explode)
We are causing a nuclear MELTDOWN
Also i wouldnt really call it plot armor
Since our survival is explained lore wise
If it was plot amor it wouldnt even be explained in the slightest
The reason why we survive is because we are quite literally built different
The reason why ALT team doesnt survive is because they are not built like us
ALT made it far yes, but they didnt made it out because they werent the perfect squad
fair echo
We are not causing a nuclear explosion btw in R8
(Since im pretty sure modern nu...
You'd be surprised, but that also depends on what u consider an "explosion"
honest summit
Imho the biggest Plot Armor is Shaeffer randomly carrying the Matterwave around.
I would assume He is using the Same Elevator as we do, so He Could have left it inside of it
coral gorge
okay, I have a very important lore question now
Who wins a duel:
OG scheaffer with a lead pipe
Or ALT scheaffer with prep time
honest summit
okay, I have a very important lore question now
Who wins a duel:
OG scheaffer wi...
Neither, they will still drown
long glacier
kds forgot to teach their ksos how to swim
lowkey for some reason whenever i try to think of what henriksson, i keep thinking he looks the medic from tf2
eternal talon
You'd be surprised, but that also depends on what u consider an "explosion"
Yeah, the most common explosions at a nuclear powerplant (Chernobyl & Fukushima) are steam and hydrogen explosions from the coolant. Actual "nuclear explosions" are impossible. Nuclear power functions the exact opposite way that bombs do. Nuclear reactors take advantage of natural decay. That's why they last for practically forever on little fuel. Bombs slam everything together at once.
They also use entirely different fuels... but that's another thing as to why they can't explode
As was the case with Chernobyl and Fukushima, the problem was the steam explosions damaging the core and sending radioactive material into the surrounding area.
That's why the buildings are still mostly intact at both sites. The explosions were minor compared to the longstanding damage from the material being shed from its protective housing
(Water from a tsunami drowned pumps 1-4 at Fukushima, preventing the system from rotating coolant water. The water in the reactor boiled away until there was none left, no coolant, it melted down.)
The hydrogen explosion days later iirc was from a separate cooling tank coming into contact with the now insanely hot core and instantly vaporizing, but again, could be wrong. I know much less about Fukushima
(At chernobyl, the safety test disabled their generators, trying to use the turbine to cover a flux in power before the emergency generators enabled. The core got so hot that the water instantly exploded into steam, thus hydrogen explosion. This happened in-the-core, yeeting everything outward)
A melt down by itself isn't too dangerous... depending on the circumstances. In garganta's case, the reactors are hundreds of meters below ground. The meltdown would cause the slag to melt through the reactor floor and into... rock.
It would be a big nothing burger. Schaeffer is an idiot for thinking otherwise.
There would be no groundwater contamination, and hell, just bog standard rock in-and-of-itself would do a good job containing the radiation.
Just seal the doors to the zones where the reactors are and that is it. Problem solved. No more issues.
eternal talon
okay, I have a very important lore question now
Who wins a duel:
OG scheaffer wi...
OG. I don't think alt:// has actually ever used the lead pipe, no?
eternal talon
kds forgot to teach their ksos how to swim
Schaeffer wasn't a KSO originally. He was middle management for santonian. Like Dauda, he just happened to enter a hydrostasis unit after everybody else was dead and was automatically implanted with a chip.
long glacier
oh yea lol
i thought the chip would at least have some data implanted into them to help them with their missions such as how to too shoot their weapons
idk
royal crow
i thought the chip would at least have some data implanted into them to help the...
it does
worn rivet
gtfo has many intresting side characters in the logs, wether it be the whistleblower guy who has radio stuff in some of his logs or the perspeticve of the researchers and workers of garganta with the place slowly destroying the employes trust with the security upgrades or technically both alt and og schaffers ones
plush nest
(At chernobyl, the safety test disabled their generators, trying to use the turb...
maybe next time they should listen to the computer when it tells them to turn off the reactor
eternal talon
maybe next time they should listen to the computer when it tells them to turn of...
if you aren't aware, the safety test was doomed before it even began.
the events surrounding Chernobyl are an amazing thing to dig into. bottomless depth.
basically, the test was as follows:
in the event of catastrophic failure of the power grid, such as a missile strike, the pumps that move coolant water into the reactor would obviously cease.
the test was to determine if as the turbine slowed down due to lack of steam being cycled from the pumps -- if the dying turbine could keep running long enough to keep the pumps running before the emergency generators kicked in. the time to do so was approximately 60 seconds.
they had planned to conduct the test in the afternoon, but were unexpectedly delayed as word came down that they needed to keep the reactor running to cover for another nearby powerplant. thus, the reactor, which had been operating at a low power mode in preparation for the test, needed to be spun up faster to generate more power.
the crew intended to carry out the test was the more experienced day shift, but by the time the rescheduled test was set to start, the facility had swapped over to the less experienced night shift.
the night shift began slowing down the reactor once again, and it began to stall due to excess xenon build built up from the afternoon where it was slowed earlier, poisoning the core (xenon reduces reactivity). if the core completely stalled, the test would have to be canceled, the core cleaned out, and this would cause significant delays to even standard operations.
they in a desperate attempt to keep the core alive, they began pulling the control rods out one by one, but the reactivity wouldn't budge.
there were 211 control rods. 205 were completely withdrawn.
at this point, they disengage the pumps moving coolant water, again trying to prevent it from dying.
at this point, the uranium fuel is completely unchecked. in less than a second reactivity increases rapidly. the remaining water in the reactor is turned into steam, and there is no new water being pumped in to replace it.
as the steam increases the reactivity, it increases the temperature, which increases the reactivity, which increases the steam, until there is no water left at all. at this point, the xenon, begins burning away -- the problem from the beginning, the strongest of the brakes on this car, have completely burned away.
the power Gaige rises beyond 33,000 megawats. the steam, forced out of the reactor with tremendous pressure, begins to rupture the fuel channels.
the supposed shutdown switch, the one button to make all the problems go away, AZ-5, is pressed.
after AZ-5, all 205 control rods are simultaniously thrusted into the core.
the control rods enter from both the top and the bottom of the reactor, with the bottom rods creating a void as they enter. the ends of the control rods are made of graphite. usually used to moderate the reactor by shifting their height and the amount of control rod exposed to the core, the first parts of the rod exposed isn't the boron, it is the graphite.
the cap of the reactor, and the roof of the building, are blown away.
the big controversy of chernobyl. the shutdown button became a detonator.
imagine the pressure within the reactor.. each of the control rod caps weigh 770lbs. each. they were supposedly jumping up and down from the pressure, moments before detonation
edit: after a quick check, the xenon poisoning wasn't from the afternoon prior. the night crew had supposedly inserted the rods too deeply when slowing it down in preparation for the test.
plush nest
tips of the rods had something to speed up the reaction no?
eternal talon
gimme a sec...
this is roughly what one of the control rods looks like
depending on how much of the rod inserted into the core, they can have a rod either increase the reactivity, or slow it down
when the AZ-5 button (SCRAM buttom) was pressed, the first part of the rods to enter the reactor were the graphite ends, not the boron which would slow it down
that brief moment was what finally triggered the hydrogen explosion from the steam
coral gorge
when the AZ-5 button (SCRAM buttom) was pressed, the first part of the rods to e...
Yknow, I think it’d be cool if something of that sort is what we got in the end
That like either during D2 extract or perhaps at the beginning of E1/E2, we hear like the emergency intercom system say all the things its trying to do, to fix the reactor, before it „presses” the emergency button which detonates the reactor and perhaps starts the error in E1
even if such events would be highly unlikely to even occur due to us being in the future and not at a soviet power plant
atleast the reactor would actually explode, and not just kinda dissolve and begin its way to the core of the planet as goop
craggy widget
@coral gorge you high?
coral gorge
<@1097049140472590476> you high?
what even is that question squirrel man
craggy widget
what even is that question squirrel man
Its not a complicated one
honest summit
Yknow, I think it’d be cool if something of that sort is what we got in the end
...
would be cool if we had to go through one of the antiradiation bulkheads that we have opened in B3
long glacier
so much lore aspect we just never touch 😭
lowkey my favorite tileset has been the reactor rooms
royal crow
drama?
opal sorrel
He gonna give me some lore documentation
royal crow
He gonna give me some lore documentation
check pins
opal sorrel
I think u might be referring to losttyfrosty
L
royal crow
we have a lore documment for dummies
royal crow
also yes its @eternal talon not @next panther
opal sorrel
<@165048919221338112>
Sorry other Frosty lmao
gray bone
What lore are you looking for exactly?
west pebble
@next panther is the speedrunner with asscheecks the size of a country, the og frosty is the loremaster who is the person to ask for any lore
eternal talon
It is I, frostty with two Ts, redirected from reddit!
opal sorrel
Not just on the lore
gray bone
Huh well you'll be here for a while
opal sorrel
The entire game
eternal talon
Gimme a sec to boot up my pc and I'll drop the file over
opal sorrel
It’s gonna be fuckin forever
eternal talon
Feel free to chat with pable in the meantime
opal sorrel
Gimme a sec to boot up my pc and I'll drop the file over
No rush
eternal talon
check pins
Not pinned anymore.
royal crow
dies
eternal talon
Used to be for years. Was removed and never put back up because I never finished the replacement pdf
opal sorrel
I’ve always wanted to make a video essay and I just love GTFO. I don’t even have a crazy amount of hours or anything but it’s just such an under appreciated gem imo
royal crow
@opal sorrel
opal sorrel
If anyone has any suggestions on things I should add feel free to lmk
royal crow
start there
opal sorrel
Bet. Thank you
west pebble
If anyone has any suggestions on things I should add feel free to lmk
the bbc copypasta - for legal reasons this is a joke
eternal talon
<@381533271860969472>
Yep this is it
royal crow
after that read the 200 logs
opal sorrel
**the bbc copypasta** - for legal reasons this is a joke
The what 💀
royal crow
jk
coral gorge
no way
A new person?
eternal talon
You'll have to download it though, it's too big to click expand in the discord app
west pebble
The what 💀
imma dm
opal sorrel
You'll have to download it though, it's too big to click expand in the discord a...
That’s granddd dw
eternal talon
just ignore the gameplay segment, it is out of date and the reason the pin was removed
I just never got around to fixing it as I was planning a wholesale pdf replacement which I also never finished...
I'll send that too
coral gorge
oh yeah frosty, whats the status with all the lore docs?
opal sorrel
also pins contain spoilers
I have a rough idea of the lore myself
west pebble
Tgb dont torment people
sry gotta get new cult members somehow
coral gorge
sry gotta get new cult members somehow
fair
royal crow
I’ve completed R1, 2 and 8
you are missing a lot still
opal sorrel
But watched a lore video a while ago and was like wow
royal crow
R6 and R7 are important
coral gorge
I’ve completed R1, 2 and 8
you did E2? Out of curiosity
eternal talon
oh yeah frosty, whats the status with all the lore docs?
Abandoned because lazy.
The for dummies is still and has been the best pre-apocalypse lore document for the past 2/3 years.
opal sorrel
you are missing a lot still
I know I know imma replay it
royal crow
But watched a lore video a while ago and was like wow
sadly lore videos dont touch everything
they miss a lot of side plots and stuff
coral gorge
sadly lore videos dont touch everything
Yeah
And some are better, some worse
royal crow
looks at scaler
coral gorge
Lol
eternal talon
I've never really liked covering gameplay stuff in it in the past because as is evident, as new rundowns got released it ended up out of date
opal sorrel
you did E2? Out of curiosity
No… but my curiosity got the better of me so I checked it out online coz my friend couldn’t deal with the gamer after E1
coral gorge
*looks at scaler*
looks at that one guy with the fungus theory
opal sorrel
It was just me, my friend, and 2 bots
royal crow
looks at that one guy with the fungus theory
Roanoke
coral gorge
No… but my curiosity got the better of me so I checked it out online coz my frie...
Ooof
Unfortunate
royal crow
dont even bring it here
coral gorge
lol
opal sorrel
Like I literally didn’t even realise the 2 missions were so different
Until the lore video
eternal talon
Best I can say for advice rn... dead the doc pable linked, and the one I'm about to send, then get back to me with any questions you have that it didn't answer
And we can go from there
opal sorrel
Me and my friend just assumed they were a more difficult version or something
opal sorrel
Best I can say for advice rn... dead the doc pable linked, and the one I'm about...
Bet
I’m like 14 mins into the video already and haven’t even touched on the lore or weapons or anything
eternal talon
*read, not dead
opal sorrel
Only just touching on gameplay
eternal talon
Yeah YT and such are really not good for gtfo lore