gtfo-lore

[lilac island]

What the

[eternal talon]

i have been playing gtfo for a very, very long time.

thats an r1 pic

[lilac island]

Yeah

I can see why it didn't stay that way

[eternal talon]

lmao

[lilac island]

Bahaha

[eternal talon]

~ i also made that server emoticon too

[lilac island]

Good work

[eternal talon]

no horni

[lilac island]

I wonder what color real cfoam is

[eternal talon]

well its still construction foam, so i think it'd probably just be room temp if not slightly warm

it isnt cryogenic

[lilac island]

Because it actually exists and is a real product

What a shocker it's grey black

I wonder why they went with white if it's literally called carbon foam and carbon is dark grey

And why it's green now

[burnt wren]

its such a fucking shame you can't enjoy that room properly because of 12.000 enemies trying to eat your behind

[eternal talon]

...

i hate to be the one to tell you, but they dont follow you in there.

their ai stops them two zones back

you can spend 3 hours in there -- with the error -- and be safe

[burnt wren]

smacks lips

[cold sphinx]

same

[lilac island]

what rundown was that

[loud urchin]

R7D2

[lilac island]

fuck

didnt reply to the sus cfoam

message

.

this

[loud urchin]

Oh thats r1

[lilac island]

Lmfao

[edgy pecan]

I think the c is for construction, and yes, it is often yellowish white, we used some to seal cracks in our house

[lilac island]

or the c in cfoam is for something else 😳

it's both white and sticky 😳

It stands for carbon foam

Cfoam is a real thing IRL

And it stands for carbon

[edgy pecan]

Carbon foam isn't liquid that expands and forms into a solid, construction foam is, and the color matches

[raw terrace]

C is construction

[coral gorge]

i dont think its confirmed

it could be a futuristic version of either

[cold sphinx]

same mindset

[coral gorge]

C is the third letter of the alphabet

[eternal talon]

C# is the language GTFO is written in

[strange grove]

nah they wrote it in scratch

[eternal talon]

https://tenor.com/view/chisel-flintstones-fred-carve-gif-18036570

[plush nest]

Sorry to ask this but what is hearsay? I have never heard that mentioned

[eternal talon]

Hearsay logs to be localized and vaulted.
Hearsay servers to be patched to the intranet network only. All Hearsay external network connections to be physically disconnected at the Mech Room on sub-level 5.
Central surveillance records to be encrypted @ 2048K and disconnected from external network.

This is the weekly report of Dr. Gallus Hammerstein, lead researcher and founder (or co-founder according to some) of Project Insight. I have decided to stop using the Hearsay system to record my daily and weekly notes as I believe prying eyes may wish to take my research and use it for their own gain. As such, I will be keeping all of my files local in a markdown vault so that I have complete control over the information I am gathering. This is clearly the wisest solution given the competitive nature of the staff I have hired for Insight.

I see the “value” of the Hearsay system and considering the price of Iridium, I understand the need for tightened security, but the way it is being done is plain wrong. Have you talked to your staff lately? Checked in on the social meetings? THEY ARE ALL EMPTY. Everyone’s terrified of even talking to each other! My grandfather told me about this shit when he was a boy and you know how that worked out. There’s something very wrong here Andrew. Spying on your people and bringing in these concrete head THUGS to keep the law is not acceptable. And the pompous assholes from Project Insight sneer down their nose at the people who actually BUILT this place for them. We need a worker’s charter or something to make sure we are ALL being taken care of, not just Davies pets!

--
You must be aware that your communications and movements are being monitored at all times, and yet you continue your inappropriate relationship with Artus Chaparon. I am well aware that Artus has intimate knowledge of the Hearsay System, so he knows exactly where to go to avoid surveillance. Looking through your NavData there are several times you and he "disappeared" for several hours. I have worked with Artus personally in the past and while I consider him a skilled engineer and a reliable worker, there is a reason he only has Tier 4 clearance and is still a Systems Engineer after 4 years with the company. (to John Schaeffer)

Do not mention Hearsay, its installation locations, or its purpose to anyone. You are not aware of the Hearsay system, or its purpose. It is a classified SMC security system, and therefore never to be discussed by anyone below tier 4.

[sudden quarry]

Henriksson is really good with that coding language

[plush nest]

So they are basically localized recordings of what happens around certain sections of the place?

[eternal talon]

yes.

[strange grove]

can any lore-heads make sense of this???
#gtfo-media message

[queen gazelle]

They wrote it in Db

[burnt wren]

Think of it as the black box of Garganta facility. It records everything said by anyone anywhere (where its' mics can reach anyway).
Or at least i think it does... Its unclear. Some people activate it directly with voice commands, sometimes it seems to activate automatically triggered by certain key words. Now i can't remember when i got that impression...

[past matrix]

girl in the red dress reference is so fucking funny

[muted cliff]

You mean I could spray thi shit on other people?

Then buy a fake VR headset and say I was playing GTFO?

And still get sent to jail/prison because they brought it to court and my lies were proven false?

[raw terrace]

yes

[muted cliff]

Price?

[raw terrace]

jail time probs

[muted cliff]

Of cfoam

Like hundred for a gallon?

Quart?

Liter?

Pound?

Kilo?

[raw terrace]

3 cents per nanomililiter

[muted cliff]

Bulk prices?

[raw terrace]

bulkheads arent on sale sadly

[lilac island]

Lmfao

[lilac island]

I wonder if islands are fine

[coral gorge]

in what way

[lilac island]

Like Australia could totally be ok

[coral gorge]

they arent

[lilac island]

In not being hell

With sleepers

[coral gorge]

sleepers are on the surface in small numbers im pretty sure

since in og the parasite never actually left garganta, and in alt we know a couple sleepers were spotted in what used to be USA

so places like australia might not have sleepers, but still got decimated by nam-v

[lilac island]

It really did the funny plague inc strat didn't it

Undetectable for months and then completely lethal

There got to be some remote island somewhere with a population of 50 that was fine

I just know it

[rich blaze]

North Sentinel

[coral gorge]

obviously not all humans are dead, we know some govrnments are still sorta working, but the vast majority of humanity is dead

[broken oriole]

what language does gtfo's in game terminals use? 🤔

[lost drum]

Unity 🤡

[lilac island]

Scratch

[normal abyss]

#gtfo-related-questions message

[burnt wren]

I really hope alt R6 will continue the UN expedition quest line. I'm low key hyped, those guys are a great addition.

[lost drum]

I hope they complete the ALT storyline in a decent way. Plot twists that will give us hints of R8, or unexpected dialog changes

Shaeffer seemed to me to be talking some nonsensical nonsense. Hopefully now he'll say something that makes more sense

[burnt wren]

I more curious to find out why garganta was abandoned as according to UNE. No bodies, no signs of struggle... Everyone just dissappeared.

[lost drum]

I mean in A1 and D1.

[burnt wren]

1. Sleepers.
2. Mind control.
3. Everyone got dimension hoped, Bermuda style.

[lost drum]

I thought all the people were shut down by Warden and turned into sleepers

[burnt wren]

Most of them, but UNE did say that it looks like someone was there and there's a loaded helicopter carrier on stand by.

So someone was clearly there...

[lost drum]

The survivors went into Legion hydrostasis

[burnt wren]

Yeah, but most of them don't know about it. Confidential. So someone would have to force them...

[lost drum]

In Dauda's entry, KSO forced him into hydrostasis. Maybe the rest of the people were forced in there, too.

[coral gorge]

dauda wasnt exaclty forced, he had a choice between staying and dying to starvation/sleepers or following our squad

[lilac island]

didn't Hackett want to shoot him?

[coral gorge]

yes

but hackett wanted to shoot him not cause he didnt want to followe them

it was cause they were told to kill anyone they find

woods saved dauda by telling hackett to extract and then offering dauda to go with them

[burnt wren]

Which is a whole other can of worms

That was all Woods

[coral gorge]

yeah, its interesting woods disobeyed the directive to kill all survivors

unless hackett lied about the directive (somehow) and just wanted to kill

[burnt wren]

I'm not sure exactly. Hackett did say that "you're not supposed to be here".
It's a confidential area and Dauda was ordered to leave and Hackett was about to execute him for failing that, but Woods intervened.

However Hackett saying "the objective stack is empty" is a fascinating choice of words.

[coral gorge]

also... i am confused how and why did they even get to KDS deep

and why do we have to go there again

[burnt wren]

They didn't

Unless...

[coral gorge]

doesnt dauda say they were in KDS deep?

[burnt wren]

Fuck, it's too convoluted.

Multiverse shenanigans at it again.

[coral gorge]

i think it was smth along the lines of: "i followed them to a location called KDS deep"

[coral gorge]

yeah, in og he got into a random hsu

and honestly i prefer the alt version of the log

it makes more sense for how he got to the squad

and not just stuck in a random hsu like hundreds of others

[burnt wren]

Alt is cooler for sure but now we have TWO KDS deep related discrepancies.

First it was Chaf, now it's us and Dauda.

[coral gorge]

chaf?

you mean schafer?

[burnt wren]

People are not where they are supposed to be, not when they are supposed to be...

Jesus, Inb4 there's just a dozen of different Schaeffers and our squads roaming around at the same time gaslighting each other.

[coral gorge]

yeah

the only theory i would make it be that schafer somehow jumped from alt R6 into og R1/R4/R5, hence explaining why he shows up before he should have been given a chance to exit his hsu

[burnt wren]

The Allen turns out to be heavily mutated / augmented Schaf or Henrikson trying to get things under control.

The entire facility is just limbo stuck in a time loop.

[coral gorge]

alt R6 will throw us into alt alt R1

or smth like that

[eternal talon]

LF1 ALT//ALT//ALT//ALT//ALT//ALT//ALT//R1C1

LF3 ALT//∞R2E1

[coral gorge]

LFG ALT::98 R8F1

[tepid crane]

alright who wants to catch emmy up on all the lore?

wait there is a pinned message

[raw terrace]

theres a document in the pinged messages that, explain-

yeah

:3

[tepid crane]

alright thank you kind sir

:3

[eternal talon]

let me know if you have any questions that it doesn't answer

[tepid crane]

thanks you :3

[lilac island]

why can't dauda use his magic powers (seen here #gtfo-media message) to escape the complex? is he stupid?

[harsh pike]

he's too busy using them for evil

[heady lark]

https://youtu.be/v3oASa-dRrU?si=_u3rvwsIbTNU1L5z

👀

[eternal talon]

I do not trust this whatsoever.

What is the source besides some random YouTube channel?

[coral gorge]

huh

Seems fishy

[eternal talon]

It's probably just another fake thing, like the countless other spam, false, and misleading things that get posted in here by people that want to troll

Server rules used to outright prevent that, but they removed that rule. Extremely sad

[heady lark]

It’s a promo video for upcoming gtfo lore video, no fishy fishes here

[coral gorge]

wel if its a promo

it might very well have not ingame info

[eternal talon]

Then please specify. "Promo" makes it sound like official promo material

Even if it isn't to a lot of new players, I try to keep this a place of learning.

We are occasionally frequented by people intentionally posting nonsense in here.

It is without question that it's "just a joke" to them, but I have seen personally that it does in fact confuse and throw off new players.

Which is very very bad.

Yet the mods don't want to add the serious tag back to this channel so whatever... (isn't it still pinned by docred in that this channel is for serious convos btw??)

[coral gorge]

that is just odd

[eternal talon]

#gtfo-lore message

[coral gorge]

This is the lore channel

the only one

[eternal talon]

I wonder if the mods communicate with the devs on stuff like this.

[coral gorge]

it should be meant for lore

[coral gorge]

maybe they dont want us to find the truth

[eternal talon]

As the serious tag was changed quite a long time ago, and it has been nothing but annoying spam throughout every week since

[eternal talon]

Well maybe don't leave the pin by the developers up if you are going to change their rules?

Which is wild to me

It's literally the first post in this channel and explicitly says "no trolling or shitposting" oml

Just gonna link that every time now

Golden.

[merry frost]

LOOOOOL

[topaz hollow]

is it saying "kds_deep_crisis_override"?

a fucking what

[harsh pike]

Kds deep didnt contain ksos

Was chimps

[topaz hollow]

wdym

[pastel ether]

Nah, I'm calling it now, they're gonna bamboozle everyone by confirming Purgatory Theory instead

The Warden is the Holy Spirit, Schaeffer is the Antichrist (the false shepherd), and the sleepers are the heathens whom have given in to the forces of evil

🙏

Also Woods was correct all along

[burnt wren]

Ignore them, they're just memeing.

[topaz hollow]

yeah I get that

I'm not stupid, I want to get the meme is all

[burnt wren]

It is what it says on tin can

Something something everyone is just chimps (because chimps = funny)

[strange grove]

Some people here weren’t around for the birth of chimp theory and it shows

[cold sphinx]

Havent seen you in a while

[past matrix]

they are going to reconfirm clone theory

[pastel ether]

likewise :^)

[dense saffron]

Chad theory best theory

[eternal talon]

chad theory isnt theory. not anymore

its fact.

[raw terrace]

c for canon and chad

[harsh pike]

wait which ones the chad theory

[vestal delta]

i think its the one where our characters cannonically beat every level first try

[harsh pike]

isn't that just actual canon

otherwise we'd be dead

[vestal delta]

well thats why there was clone theory

[harsh pike]

i really hope the clone theory isn't true lol that would just shit on the story IMO

[vestal delta]

yeah thats why i prefer chimp theory

idk what chimp theory is

anyone who trys to explain it gets a 100 day mute

[dense saffron]

Yeah it's why Schaeffer chose us or w/e

[dense saffron]

Chimp theory real

🦍

[vestal delta]

dont tempt me

also thats a gorilla not a chimp

[dense saffron]

Close enough

No default chimp emoji

Hate crime

[dense saffron]

If I was at home I'd make a rorschach / dr Manhattan meme

[vestal delta]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1023311814966136834/1114604504281788497/LigmaBalls.gif

me to anyone who talks about chimp theory

anyway

i dont actually know enough about GTFO lore to do a segue

[mental stump]

Don’t look up gtfo chimp theory on YouTube

[dense saffron]

This is the best gif I've seen in a long time

Thank you so much for this wonderful gift

[mental stump]

I was two minutes in before I realized

[vestal delta]

in reality i dont even know how chimp theory could be a thing

"oh the characters are just chimps"

well thats pretty much just clone theory or chad theory at that point

you just threw chimps into it for no good reason

[vestal delta]

that does make me wonder

if cyberheist or whatever the game is called now, will be in the same universe

[mental stump]

About banana? 🍌

[dense saffron]

Next game HTFO

It doesn't stand for "heist the fuck out" but rather the feeling you get when you heist the stuff and go home

[vestal delta]

gtfo is techincally a heist game

[dense saffron]

Wait h is after g, does this mean their next game after the heist one will be related the letter i

Bravo 10cc

[vestal delta]

Ink the fuck out

its uh

a writing game

[dense saffron]

I would have gone with a splatoon like

[vestal delta]

as if nintendo would let that fly

[dense saffron]

There's already that Sony or w/e game that's a splatoon clone coming out soon

Tagentally related to GTFO lore, we have the GTFO diaper and GTFO toilet paper

[eternal talon]

it isnt.

[dense saffron]

When do we get the GTFO schaefer poop bucket

[eternal talon]

chad theory was proven true when rise was proven to be separate from legion

[vestal delta]

dm @ruby lake and ill redirect you to calle for that

[dense saffron]

Real

[vestal delta]

anyway actual lore talk is happening no more funnys

shoo to #gtfo-chat or something

[eternal talon]

if you want, you can always have a read of the "for dummies" doc in the pins.

[vestal delta]

is that in date anymore?

[dense saffron]

Isn't there a voice log from alt Schaefer talking about how our squad has completed more missions successfully than any other squad

Or did I imagine that

[vestal delta]

oh its only 2 months old

[eternal talon]

i update it every single major patch. ask rav, i ping her every time and she re-pins it

[vestal delta]

you considered making it a google doc instead?

so it can be live updated?

[dense saffron]

Wouldn't it make more sense for it to be a doc on google docs or a github file?

Yeah what soy said

Use github if you want a raw text document with none of Google's bs

[eternal talon]

i mean yeah, but honestly i'd rather just a txt. smaller file size, keeps from having to link to a drive

readable offline, etc

[vestal delta]

tru

[eternal talon]

damn near impossible to get smaller than a paintext .txt with zero formatting

[dense saffron]

If you want a raw text file you can host it on github easily and people can download it as a file / suggest edits to it

[eternal talon]

*plaintext not paintext

[eternal talon]

nah, its fine. it's been a .txt since the first version over a year ago now, no point in changing it

[dense saffron]

Fair enough

Eventually I'm going to make one of those red string detective boards as a website for GTFO lore

Connect things together and see where the missing pieces are

[eternal talon]

hahaha, good luck with that. you'd have it going about a million different directions

allens alone strings out into like 5 different categories. (nam-v, parasite, ship, destination, artifacts)

[dense saffron]

Yeah lol, that's the main reason I want to do it

[eternal talon]

but i'd love to see it none-the-less

[dense saffron]

There's so many concepts it's hard to organize them all in my head

[eternal talon]

why, to have something like this?

https://tenor.com/view/conspiracy-theory-explaining-gif-13403485

[dense saffron]

LMAO

[vestal delta]

you know for stuff like that makes me kinda wish we had a gtfo-lore form

[eternal talon]

ah. it is certainly a bit all over the place

[vestal delta]

so isntead of just pinning cool stuff we could have dedicated posts for it

[eternal talon]

honestly that'd probably just make it harder, not easier. you'd have hundreds of individual posts about random minor things, that a bigger picture would be near impossible to assemble. i mean it already is for most people anyway.

explaining everything questioned on a case by case basis has been mostly effective, imo anyway.

[vestal delta]

oh nah i meant as a mod posts only

[eternal talon]

the doc handles most overarching story

[vestal delta]

essentially as a pin board for various theories and writeups like your txt document

[dense saffron]

"That right there is the lore. Now let's talk about the lore. Can we talk about the lore, please, frostty? I've been dying to talk about the lore with you all day okay?"

[eternal talon]

doesn't raveanna have an entire sub-discord for that that nobody uses?

[vestal delta]

instead of just having pinned messages cause they are a pain to navagate sometimes

[eternal talon]

well what do you want to talk about

[vestal delta]

yeah, the sub discord is the reason its not really used

[eternal talon]

honestly you could probably remove most of them. a lot of the stuff pinned on there is years old and way out of date

[dense saffron]

What do you think the ramifications of main Schaeffer taking over the warden are going to be?

[eternal talon]

duck's timeline is still good

[dense saffron]

I think nothing good, since the warden seems to be trying to cure nam-v

[eternal talon]

dunno about the lockdown report, but daraxus hasn't been here for a loooong time, summary of expeditions i doubt has had any updates,

[dense saffron]

Where as main Schaeffer is not stable at all and 100% infected with NAM-V at this point since he's been out of hydro stasis for so long

[eternal talon]

idk what the "lockdown report" is, and the notion.so linked hasn't been updated since like r7 by rayalot

[dense saffron]

Lockdown report is the text that's on the data center screens right?

It's the lockdown procedures report

[eternal talon]

why would a single log need its own pin? gtfo has over 200 total

[dense saffron]

It was pinned because it was a bitch to collect

Since you had to keep dropping into data center levels to get the whole log

[eternal talon]

so were things like the coords to destination but that isn't.

also the goldie cipher

or even the still currently unsolved allen audio log from alt//r2

[dense saffron]

My guess would be an admin was active in the chat at the time and someone pinged them asking to pin it

[eternal talon]

tch, ehh, i dunno.

its whatever i guess.

[dense saffron]

I remember at the time people were super excited about it so that's probably why it got pinned since nothing like it had happened before

Still so sad the alt rundowns don't have an alt version of the lockdown report

[vestal delta]

which pin are you guys talkin bout?

[eternal talon]

most of the really, but in this case the "lockdown report" pin, which is literally just a log

[dense saffron]

#gtfo-lore message

[vestal delta]

yeah its probably pinned because its a bunch of logs combined and that was big news back then

im not gonna remove any pins for now but ill check with the others who pinned that stuff to see if its worth keeping

[eternal talon]

let me get that yet-to-be-cracked audio log because if anything that should probably be there for anybody to take a stab at.

[vestal delta]

see thatd be a good use for a lore forum channel

pinned post with it in so people can try it

😼

[strange grove]

hello can anyone tell me the lore implications of test_achievement_avgrate_1

[vestal delta]

clearly the warden has hacked into steam

[eternal talon]

@vestal delta Would you kindly 📌 this audio log? This is the currently undeciphered audio log from ALT//R1B2.

• The contents of this audio log are currently UNKNOWN. If you or anybody you know would like to have a look through the audio via whatever means, it would be greatly appreciated. This log, like previous "ARG" style logs, was given to us to solve.

[burnt wren]

Two minutes of ominous rambling

Honestly it seems devs went too far with that one if even the cracked lore enthusiast (like french) couldn't do anything about it

At this point they're better off just telling us what it is, prefferably in a log

Maybe Dauda cracked it before getting KSO'd or something

[eternal talon]

granted, the other ones were way out there, and took days to solve.

[burnt wren]

Yeah but this

What are you supposed to take from this

Its just noise

[eternal talon]

is a mess. I know some people ran it through an image visualizer and got pictures of what is assumed at current to be pipes, but other than that, we got nothing.

[burnt wren]

Sounds like sounds of a far away giant engines to me, but why would someone transmit that

[eternal talon]

some might assume blood from a stone, but 10cc doesn't usually hand out stones when they've had us crack thicker coconuts before.

[lilac island]

a foreshadowing of Schaeffer hitting on pipes to speak in morse code brabo 10 chember

[burnt wren]

there's basically 3 sounds in there

the background white noise, kinda like when you're downed

[burnt wren]

the obvious rumbling, that goes up and down

[burnt wren]

and there's uh...

[eternal talon]

• pics from previous attempts by users in #gtfo-lore

[burnt wren]

these sounds of like a far away synthesised dog barking

https://cdn.steamstatic.com/steamcommunity/public/images/items/274500/71a7a4187ac55fefd145b6f06b2ce2e6e52d0c81.jpg

This is what i see in those sound waves

That's my best interpetation

[lilac island]

that log should've been in R1C2: Decode

[burnt wren]

You'd have to backwards engineer it, right?

[eternal talon]

hm?

[burnt wren]

Like okay, if i want to encode something into a sound how would i do it

Are there encryption procedures for sound?

[lilac island]

idk but the name of the level is literally decode

[burnt wren]

Maybe we could crack it with a code and the sound changes?

[eternal talon]

i have no idea. i've not dabbled in cryptography

[burnt wren]

Either way if no one around here couldn't crack it - i probably won't even get close

This was just way out there of a random punch by the lore writers

Not even a hint or anything

When did that log appeared again?

Alt R2 or something? R6?

[mental stump]

“They are routinely deployed into an underground corporate facility known as the Chimplex. Their missions to date and the bananas gleaned from their encounters at the facility can be found here.” Ok who put this on the wiki

[eternal talon]

alt//r1b2

[burnt wren]

Right

They had, uh...

4 rundowns to throw us a bone for that one

Probably too late to throw us one in AR6, hm?

[eternal talon]

@harsh saffron watch out. there is someone fucking with you guys' wiki pages. Disregard. Troll post.

[burnt wren]

At this point R8 will be down and gone and we still won't have even a hint on wtf that sound is supposed to be

[lilac island]

ayo where does it say that

[mental stump]

Source link: ||I made it up||

[eternal talon]

why would you do that though?

[burnt wren]

Something something see world burn

[mental stump]

It made me laugh

Someone mentioned chimp theory earlier and I can’t shake it

[lilac island]

fucking no wayayay

[burnt wren]

The default state of affairs on the internet is: everyone's talking out of their fat ass until proven otherwise

[eternal talon]

whelp, duck is gonna be annoyed with that noti

[lilac island]

Source? I made it up

[mental stump]

[lilac island]

Source? A drunk hobo told me that.

[burnt wren]

Anyway...
Not just a sound... A TRANSMISSION. If it was just a sound its like whatever - more vibrations in the rocks, you can just get wild with imagination on that one. Ooh, is that a giant monster? Alien ship in the work? Who knows!
But no, it had to be a transmission. Something that is purposefully sent from someone to someone. WHO?! TO WHOM?! Are there multiple aliens? Are they talking? Or is it the nearby dimensions leaking in? Why only ONE of these transmissions was caught?

Could it be possible that this is the sound Hammerstein used to rally up the infected? Someone trying to sabotage / doom garganta for good, like our little insane boy Dauda over there?

[mental stump]

||Anyway...
Not just a chimp... A BANANAMISSION. If it was just a fruit its like whatever - more peels in the rocks, you can just get wild with imagination on that banana. Ooh, is that a giant chimp? Chimp ship in the work? Who knows!
But no, it had to be a bananamission. Something that is purposefully sent from chimp to chimp. WHO?! TO WHOM?! Are there multiple chimps? Are they talking? Or is it the nearby bananas leaking in? Why only ONE of these bananamissions was caught?||

[eternal talon]

wait a minute... this all seems oddly familiar...

[eternal talon]

please stop

[burnt wren]

Are you talking about the alert transmission?

The one that lured everyone in, that is

If i remember it was an alien device, not previous expeditions

[eternal talon]

no, i'm talking about the movie promethius, there was a living engineer. they woke it up during their expedition of the derilect and it tried to continue its mission, to leave with the ship. maybe an allen woke up and is trying to see whoever is left of their species

given it is a broadcast

[lilac island]

[mental stump]

I refuse

[eternal talon]

dont make me get da mods.

dis no funni

[burnt wren]

Actually... Yeah, that would explain it. The loneliest whale in the world, but in alien form. A little bit out there, but frankly makes more sense than anything else. Definetely more than dimensions leaking.

[eternal talon]

though, we do not know why they decided to go to the yucitan when they did. you'd think santonian, who were mining aseroids deliberately, would have gone to the crater as one of their FIRST digs.

(i mean yeah earthquake and stuff, but still)

[mental stump]

Are you trying to make a monkey out of me

[eternal talon]

they brought their equipment and set up to dig, why? you dont just brink that on a disaster rescue mission to help the red cross

[eternal talon]

this is not mulan

[eternal talon]

ah yes, while i am here with the mangled bodies of hundreds of red cross workers, let me just do some seismic scans and set up drilling equipment to see if there is anything worth mining here

that kind of stuff would need permits, pre-planning by company officials, and months of prep work

[burnt wren]

I'm not sure writers know that

[eternal talon]

bruh. you cant just go digging a hole without owning the land.

they have a studio. they didn't squatter's rights their offices

[burnt wren]

And lore seems to imply that our corpos here are notably buttered up when it comes to dealing with the law and politics

Just slidin' right in

[eternal talon]

even off the book, they gotta have a reason to bother bringing the stuff there in the first place.

its like a little kid digging holes in his backyard with a shovel hoping to find dinosaur bones

you gotta know what your looking for is there, before you start

not after

[strange grove]

this has got me thinking, I'll send it over to my lore experts and see what they say

[burnt wren]

The original explanation was, what was it... Iridium? Some rare metal or whatever. Guess they got a whiff of that.

Maybe some bored employee on vacation caught something with his whatever-reader

[eternal talon]

ah. INEGI, Mexico’s National Institute of
Statistics and Geography, has recently recommended opening up this sinkhole
to private mining contractors. The joint task force was given restricted
access to the site from 04/2049 to 05/2049. This study discusses the
consequences of private contracting at the Merida sinkhole, and the potential
impact on US interests in the--

[burnt wren]

So, "just let people dig in, its a hole, who cares"

[eternal talon]

I have it on good authority that the bid will be accepted in the next few
weeks. You will have full access up to 15 km off the coast as promised. I
will send you the full map later today. By the way, why do you need that much
area off the coast? What’s out there?
Thank you for the donation. The kids will love it!
Gustavo

--

**I wanted to confirm that we have indeed found what we’re looking for. There’s a sediment layer running from dig site 10F (near Chicxulub) out to a few kilometers off the coast (we’re calling it La Vena internally). The vein looks rich, and the scans confirm there’s a huge deposit at the end. Our engineers ran the numbers on it and if the scan data is correct, we’re looking at a mass that’s 1.5 - 2k miles wide (damn you devs, its meters not miles), and up to 4k down. Our scans can’t penetrate all the way through the mass – it’s too dense. We’ll have to dig to get accurate data.

If the density is consistent, we could be looking at upwards of 4,000 tons. A conservative estimate puts that at 300 billion at today’s Iridium price.

We have a plan to reach it, though the structure will probably send the Greens into a frenzy, so we may need some PR help with that? **

[eternal talon]

"why do you need that much area off the coast? what's out there?"

[eternal talon]

this line. what IS out there? you cant just drill underwater. hell, you cant even setup seismics.

they'd have to drain it all first. and the platform that they did end up draining out is relatively small

[burnt wren]

The other part does confirms that Iridium was the goal, somewhat

The only question is how they got a hint

Just randomly taking pot shots?

I guess you can do that if you have fuck-off money

[eternal talon]

we know they didnt know anything about the aliens. or at the very least santonian didn't.

[lilac island]

Wait is the crater underwater

I don't know my geography

It's not right

[dire nymph]

perfect

[lilac island]

So tell me is the crater underwater

[dire nymph]

idk

it probably is

why? cause i said so

[wraith scaffold]

always has been

Most certainly

[lilac island]

I mean

[dire nymph]

hes real like that

[blazing junco]

https://tenor.com/view/free-speech-freedom-of-speech-cancel-culture-cannot-cancel-no-censorship-gif-22928923

[harsh saffron]

All good, I was reading the whole convo anyways ^^

[eternal talon]

The majority of it extends along the ocean floor to the northeast of the yucitan.

[lilac island]

How do they get out through a frickin ocean

[eternal talon]

Though it does have parts that overlap significantly over the mainland

[eternal talon]

Same way you do in minecraft.

Build walls to keep the ocean out, then drain it with pumps

[coral gorge]

D o o r s

or that

[lilac island]

No i mean

[eternal talon]

Garganta's entrance is an ocean platform

[lilac island]

Sleepos

That's fuckin cool

[eternal talon]

You can read about it on the daylight mission logs

[lilac island]

So it's probably raining on the entrance because ocean

Do only golden missions have logs

[eternal talon]

Not necessarily

[coral gorge]

or its HSU juice

[coral gorge]

i believe rain is HSU juice

[eternal talon]

No. Usually ALL do.

[lilac island]

Then what is gold

Also wow

Had no idea

[burnt wren]

Golden are "story missions"

With plot happening

[eternal talon]

It is not. If you were to feel the liquid ksos are encased in it would be slimy. It's like an artificial womb

[burnt wren]

Feature that was only born in R6

[eternal talon]

It still supplies ksos with what they need to survive. Nutrients and the like

[lilac island]

But like

If every mission is canon

Is gold just really important and pivotal

[burnt wren]

Goldnens usually have forced dialogue logs from Schaeffer

[lilac island]

A

[burnt wren]

Not golden just contain random lore

[eternal talon]

This isn't an American game/company. Free speech doesn't apply.

[lilac island]

The absolute state

[burnt wren]

It should.

[lilac island]

Free speech best speech

However this do be a specialised channel within a specialised server

Monke shenanigans are off topic

Do you need anything special to access the logs

[eternal talon]

No. Just time

[lilac island]

Or can you drop in gets logs get out

[burnt wren]

You need to find the terminal, that's it

[lilac island]

Ah

Surprisingly easy

[burnt wren]

Sometimes they are hidden in deep a hole of the level

[lilac island]

Awesome

[eternal talon]

Gtfo has 200+ at this point

[burnt wren]

Sometimes you have an error alarm pestering you

[eternal talon]

And again not all are visible in-game

[lilac island]

Why

[eternal talon]

You also might want a degree in cryptography if you are going to try and solve the ARG logs by yourself

[eternal talon]

To make our jobs harder

[lilac island]

There are arg logs

What

Are they solved

[burnt wren]

Couple are

[eternal talon]

All but one, which I got pinned yesterday

[burnt wren]

We have only one we couldn't solve

[lilac island]

Jesus

[burnt wren]

See discussion above, right before monkeys

[eternal talon]

Notable ones are the destination coordinates log and the Goldie cipher

[burnt wren]

About the sound

[lilac island]

Okay

Time to ask chat gpt what to do

[burnt wren]

Just read the wiki

Far easier than finding a random ass terminal in zone 576 after 50 minutes of gameplay with shadow alarm pushing you out

That's what I did and I even compared old logs to new logs

[lilac island]

But the immersion

[eternal talon]

Original text:

MzcgMzcgMjAgMzggMzQgMjAgMzkgMzkgMjAgMzEgMzAgMzMgMjAgMzcgMzcgMjAgMzggMzQgMjAgMzcgMzcgMjAgMzEgMzAgMzMgMjAgMzcgMzggMjAgMzYgMzggMjAgMzggMzEgMjAgMzEgMzEgMzcgMjAgMzcgMzcgMjAgMzEgMzAgMzYgMjAgMzYgMzkgMjAgMzEgMzIgMzAgMjAgMzcgMzMgMjAgMzYgMzcgMjAgMzQgMzggMjAgMzEgMzIgMzIgMjAgMzcgMzggMjAgMzEgMzIgMzEgMjAgMzYgMzUgMjAgMzEgMzEgMzkgMjAgMzcgMzggMjAgMzEgMzAgMzUgMjAgMzYgMzUgMjAgMzEgMzIgMzAgMjAgMzcgMzggMjAgMzggMzMgMjAgMzUgMzIgMjAgMzUgMzMgMjAgMzcgMzggMjAgMzYgMzUgMjA

Base64 Decode output:

37 37 20 38 34 20 39 39 20 31 30 33 20 37 37 20 38 34 20 37 37 20 31 30 33 20 37 38 20 36 38 20 38 31 20 31 31 37 20 37 37 20 31 30 36 20 36 39 20 31 32 30 20 37 33 20 36 37 20 34 38 20 31 32 32 20 37 38 20 31 32 31 20 36 35 20 31 31 39 20 37 38 20 31 30 35 20 36 35 20 31 32 30 20 37 38 20 38 33 20 35 32 20 35 33 20 37 38 20 36 35 20

Decode output with 20 as a divider:

37 37
38 34
39 39
31 30 33
37 37
38 34
37 37
31 30 33
37 38
36 38
38 31
31 31 37
37 37
31 30 36
36 39
31 32 30
37 33
36 37
34 38
31 32 32
37 38
31 32 31
36 35
31 31 39
37 38
31 30 35
36 35
31 32 30
37 38
38 33
35 32
35 33
37 38
36 35

3X converted to just X and combined into decimals:

77 84 99 103 77 84 77 103 78 68 81 117 77 106 69 120 73 67 48 122 78 121 65 119 78 105 65 120 78 83 52 53 78 65

Combined into decimals converted to ASCII:

MTcgMTMgNDQuMjExIC0zNyAwNiAxNS45NA

Base64 Decode output with new ASCII text:

17 13 44.211 -37 06 15.94

This was for destination's coords

So um... good luck with that.

[burnt wren]

Someone in writing room had some fun

[eternal talon]

Several of these logs were DESIGNED for us to solve as a community, not on your own

[eternal talon]

I'm happy enough to say I solved the first part with base64

[lilac island]

I will be contacting jimmy neutron

[eternal talon]

Lmao

[coral gorge]

Drag him down into Garganta

[burnt wren]

"It's "salt", dude."

[eternal talon]

Nacl

[lilac island]

https://youtu.be/xIarrG9ZO4I?si=2BtVfubD1NxrVzuI

[coral gorge]

he should have just shot him first

[lilac island]

And also https://youtu.be/89ZfbX4Rdzw?si=HUwcK0SZVjEjhkl0

[coral gorge]

instead of trash talking him

[lilac island]

The saga

Watch these they're good

[plush nest]

Sounds like something that could be related to the frequencies that might be able to be translated to some sort of words or letter

Just an idea though

[plush nest]

what are these called? i cant remember

[eternal talon]

Idk

[loud urchin]

spectograph I think

[eternal talon]

I didn't convert them to these

[loud urchin]

or something along those lines, graph, gram, whatever, I'll look it

spectogram, it is

something something wikipedia link, now I disappear https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spectrogram (removed embed)

[plush nest]

kk thank you

[keen stump]

-graph is an instrument, -gram is the output

[plush nest]

I’ll see if I can do something with these, I had a prof who gave out extra marks for solving cryptograms

[merry frost]

if chimps were the prisoners sent down, would they have unlimited stamina?

[toxic wagon]

[sudden quarry]

what are the lore implications of the Kovac Red Ranger?

[cold sphinx]

Would be improved stamina

Wouldn’t say its unlimited

[strange grove]

possible relation to the girl in the red dress?
something to consider

[sudden quarry]

Perhaps you are right my fellow loremaster.

[lilac island]

Hypothesis: The air in the complex is entirely saturated with namv, so we need the masks for preventing infection

[harsh pike]

agreed

the thick fog is just too much for the gas mask filters

[lilac island]

Yes

[cunning light]

I'd say the concentration of the virus in the complex atmosphere varies, and you have pockets of more densely active virus air (dense fog)

[harsh pike]

why it doesn't disperse in open spaces is a mystery

[lilac island]

However i suppose that means that enemy attacks do not stab or pierce or lacerate because thst would create an opening for the virus and infection

[harsh pike]

i mean i don't think it transmits through skin

[lilac island]

Aka we'd get infection

[harsh pike]

there's a lot of helmets that aren't full-sealed

[lilac island]

Yeah not skin contact but open wounds

The virus can enter wounds

(this is why you're not supposed to try and explain everything in universe because there will always be more bullshit that is just gameplay stuff that is unexplainable)

I guess they didn't get the memo

Unrelated: I wonder if the warden has unlimited access to boosters or the means to create them but simply chooses not to provide them and instead use them as incentive for artifacts

[cold sphinx]

Heavier than air mfs be like:

🤓

[lilac island]

Density enjoyers

[harsh pike]

i assume artifacts are used to make boosters

with the worms and shit inside them

[cold sphinx]

Warden: Honey come down and drink your worm blendered protein.
Prisoners: yes dear

[lilac island]

worm cubes

[coral gorge]

At the end of every mission we get a nam-v probe reaction so i doubt any nam-v protection even matters as it can be high even if you dont get hit etc

[lilac island]

isn't that an nrv probe reaction?

or am i stupid?

Maybe so

Yes but we also get infection level tested

#gtfo-media message

yup NRV probe

Maybe our gas masks are actually just for particles n shit? Because there's no ventilation there's tons of dust and unhealthy particles that would destroy our lungs

After the whole nuke thing

Idk anymlre

I'm gonna go in my HSU

[cold sphinx]

Same

GL have fun

[lilac island]

Sleepitime

[lilac island]

Is there anyone other than Schaefer alive in the complex or is he just the main character

[harsh pike]

henrikson

[burnt wren]

As of R7C1 he has Henrikson to keep him company

[tepid crane]

Anyone wanna explain the whole thing with the alt rundowns being a different universe or something. I read the doc and it makes no sense

[tepid crane]

I think the warden sees all of the prisoners it uses as expendable, so if any of them are very successful it would give them boosters because it knows they wouldn’t be wasted. Kinda like… only give your best troops the best swords kind of deal

I actually think that’s plausible tbh. I can’t think of any sleeper attacks that are piercing or slashing. They are all closed fist attacks, or the tongue attacks that are clearly blunt force. Even the ranged attacks don’t seem like piercing projectiles since they move way too slow to puncture anything. (Yeah sure there is friendly fire but I think it’s fair to overlook that haha. Canonically friendly fire would probably kill the person or subject them to infection). Could also explain how prisoners can be revived multiple times, since you are less likely to bleed out from blunt trauma than cuts. (We will ignore the plot hole of internal hemorrhage for the sake of this argument)

[solemn kraken]

I mean we teleport all the time since R6. so it's not that crazy

R6D4 had us switching reality's the whole level

[tepid crane]

Haven’t played r6 yet so maybe it will be clearer then

[eternal talon]

what about it specifically is confusing?

hopefully i can break it down point by point

[harsh pike]

tongue attacks aren't blunt force, it looks like they have teeth inside them

Giant's tongue

[eternal talon]

ehh. weird.

this striker's is smooth and empty

[harsh pike]

might be a giant thing

[eternal talon]

maybe

[harsh pike]

or the models on the ground have different designed ones for some reason

[tepid crane]

So like, I’m having a hard time understanding how Schafer fits into the whole plot… in general. Like I get he was a subject that managed to escape and getting to hydrostasis to survive, but after that I don’t understand his purpose or how it fits in with what the Warden wants. Cause if he is trying to combat the warden, couldn’t the warden mess with his neural interface and black out his vision or mess with his ability to interact with the prisoners. Or better yet, why would the Warden send the prisoners at all if there was a risk of them rebelling. As far as I understand it there are many prisoners the Warden could use

[harsh pike]

schaeffer doesn't have cortex I don't think

[eternal talon]

he wasn't a subject. he was just a generic employee of santonian.

[eternal talon]

^ this. he "broke free" of the warden back during OG//R4

and he helped henrikkson tear out his chip in r7c1

so he clearly has experience with it

[harsh pike]

even if you do have cortex, the warden doesn't seem to be able to do much about it

we were able to do what we did in r7 with no pushback

[tepid crane]

I thought I read he was part of a squad of 4 and he was the only survivor? That probably doesn’t help my understanding if my foundation was wrong lol

[eternal talon]

which do you mean

[harsh pike]

inserting the trojan, creating the backdoor for henrikson

it's weird cause they talk about the KSO's being mind controlled but that's clearly not the case for the 4

[eternal talon]

r7e1 is because schaeffer is actively commanding us through biocom. through the rest of the levels, it is because we have to. schaef is blocking our only way to proceed unless we do that

[eternal talon]

ah. schaeffer cut the brakes on our lift and we were sent "out of range"

it says it the entire mission during r7d2

in the top corner

[harsh pike]

yeah, rerouting path

odd the warden wouldn't just send the HSU lift back down to get us out

[eternal talon]

ehh. out of range, he might not have been sure where we even were

we could be anywhere down that shaft on any floor

schaeffer knew though

so he probably sent the lift for us to get out

[harsh pike]

it must've had some idea of where we were though because it knew we couldn't reach the objective

[eternal talon]

ehh, i would disagree

[tepid crane]

That still doesn’t answer why the Warden would send us down knowing funky stuff was going on. It had to have some knowledge of Schaeffer and what he was doing. There is no way the Warden could have this level of control of the complex and not know someone was trying to mess with it

[eternal talon]

it probably did. it DID send us into alt//, somehow.

sending us before schaeffer had control

[tepid crane]

I guess there lies my first question, what is the whole deal with the alt rundowns vs the ogs

[eternal talon]

at some point during/after r7e1, (we have no idea), warden merged our original worldline with another, creating alt//

it isn't time travel, we are still progressing forward. alt//'s worldline was slower to have the same events happen, so it is still the current year

in alt// nam-v took longer to break out than in or original, or a number of factors that led to us being where we are.

we dont know what lies for us in alt//r6, or even r8. if we continue in alt//'s worldline, or if we somehow find our way back to our own

we aren't in kansas anymore

granted, we left kansas every time we traveled to destination also, since that is ALSO a different worldline

the one the allens and the ship come from

[harsh pike]

the warden doesn't have all that much control from what i've seen

you can see this during reactor shutdown missions when it tries to INJECT.WRDN.PRIVILIEGE and gets rejected

also happens on r7c1 i believe

[tepid crane]

So am understanding correctly that the Warden realized there was tampering, and figured a way to go to a different worldline?

[eternal talon]

it can see through our eyes, it knows EXACTLY what we are doing, but it is left with little choice when schaeffer is holding the doors to progress locked and refusing to open up unless we do what he wants

[eternal talon]

it knew for a while, and somehow, someway, did something about it at the end of r7

like i said before, we have basically no fucking idea how

but we have proof that it did in the logs

[harsh pike]

so it could see us taking the trojan, and approaching biocom's mainframe and said nothing then?

[tepid crane]

Can you try to explain this please

[eternal talon]

probably not, because again, out of range. like the maps are out of range on destination

[tepid crane]

Sorry it’s a lot to try and wrap my head around

[eternal talon]

so one example being bishop's mask. we read in a log that they found another on the mounting platform, that belonging to the original bishop of the alt// worldline

another would be schaeffer. our schaeffer is active in alt//. we hear him banging on the walls in alt//r1d1, yet the allt// schaeffer at this time is probably still in hydrostasis

[harsh pike]

alt r6 has a fucking LOT to explain

any newcomer is going to be SO confused

[eternal talon]

we have a mile long spreadsheet of countless versions of people from different worldlines that the warden knows about
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSLHVp3ReG56bunlm1cuCMwLQxtJkINITk1vVMCgGbrJj-Ce6GWc9TpBNlYYmAujwqh4kSGF-pOjdqb/pubhtml

and seemingly... insight, knew about, before the place went down

[tepid crane]

Hello yes am newcomer am confused

[eternal talon]

have you watched steins; gate?

[harsh pike]

this is lession #285 why adding alternate universe fuckery to games that don't need them, usally sucks

[tepid crane]

Jesus Christ…

[tepid crane]

Nope

[eternal talon]

its like that but every character is okabe. they are all remembering things from different worldlines, things that happend in others, but not their own. the mandella effect

[eternal talon]

you should, its really really good

it was originally a set of visual novel games on steam

[tepid crane]

https://tenor.com/view/snoring-snoring-aneurysm-brain-aneurysm-brain-aww-gif-25678781

Me rn

[eternal talon]

think about it this way. this line is our original worldline, right?

this is basically r7e1

we are going to alt//'s worldline

[harsh pike]

did r7e1 have any indication for this? I don't remember

was it the matter wave collapse?

so the second half of r7e1 is technically in alt timeline?

[eternal talon]

and then there is also destination, the place the aliens come from

destination is a separate worldline we go to with the matter wave projector

assuming the same in alt//r6 where we go to destination too

[tepid crane]

Ok following so far…

[eternal talon]

then in OGr6d4, we go to three separate versions of earth

in different worldlines, so thats three more

its just countless worldlines running parallel and at the same time. we are jumping between

via the mwp, data cubes (as per the case in r6d4), and whatever allen shinanigans the warden pulled at the end of r7

[plush nest]

If something blunt hits you hard enough the skin will break open

[eternal talon]

everything you could ever imagine is happening, has happened, and will happen

its just out there on a different worldline

and with the MWP, we can go to these places.

the allens mastered this.

we see in a log, hammerstein found specimens from countless universes they had catalogued

the allens were practically gods

[plush nest]

How do I read this, up down or down up?

[tepid crane]

so whats the chance of the Warden being alien?

[tepid crane]

yes

[plush nest]

Up down gotcha

[eternal talon]

across. each of these lines is happening at the same time. (kinda. destination's worldline the fundamental laws of time are different. it flows 85x faster)

we cannot (to our knowledge) go back

time itself never changes. we are just moving place.

imagine as if each of these lines is a separate universe from the big bang, continuing infinitely to the future, whatever that may be

at the end of r7, schaeffer took partial control of biocom

[tepid crane]

LIKE INTERSTELLER

[eternal talon]

warden didnt like this because he wouldn't have total control of us ksos anymore

so warden merged our worldline with alt. imagine two of these lines combining into one

and that is where we are right now

dark blue and orange combined

[plush nest]

But like top to bottom as a whole?

[eternal talon]

what do you mean? the length of the lines dont matter. they've always been going, and always will go

[tepid crane]

pin this plz :3

[eternal talon]

time doesnt end

[eternal talon]

not really needed imo. very very few dig into it like this to understand

gtfo lore by nature is a complicated mess after r6

[tepid crane]

thats fair haha

[eternal talon]

any questions?

[tepid crane]

but thank you for explaining it. I dont understand it all but its starting to connect. you are freaking awesome

[eternal talon]

no... the prism at the end was deterministic. there always was miller's ghost.

that was time travel where you couldn't change the past. this is just moving around to other places. you arent changing anything

[tepid crane]

i just meant in the case of time moving different speeds

[eternal talon]

not really, that is due to gravity and is a very real thing.

destination's issue is fundamentals

destination's earth is still 85x faster than ours

its the laws of the universe that are different

[tepid crane]

ah

[eternal talon]

like there could be a worldline where gravity doesnt exist... at all

etc

infinite chaos

and even in that infinity of worldlines... our squad can never have a happy ending

THAT is the true finale of gtfo

we'd just take nam-v with us, willing or not, and kill whatever place we went to

we are forever doomed

[eternal talon]

i cant give you a guarantee based on statistics, but in my opinion, 90/10 in favor

[tepid crane]

yeah it just has to be... like us going through the rundowns and breaking into other timelines was the plan from the beginning, which is why the Warden doesnt stop us from killing sleepers

when shaeffer got involved the warden tried to move to another worldline to contine setting everythign up

[eternal talon]

honestly 99% of this entire plotline came out of nowhere in r6 with 1.0.0

[tepid crane]

haha

[eternal talon]

the first couple rundowns didnt even HAVE logs

now we have 200+

[tepid crane]

yeah

[burnt wren]

You can actually see the evolution of log lore exposition if you read the logs in chronological order from R1.
R1, i think, basically had like 4-5 logs all of which contained damaged portions of a single whole log. About a sentence or two for each.
Then from R2 logs became proper whole, but rare and small. Then they started getting bigger.

And new ALT logs are basically doubling down on exposition. Some of them gained an additional sentense or two.

[lilac island]

Is there any mention of the means with which shadows are invisible or is it not called attention to

Also weird how they're invisible but their tongues aren't

[cold sphinx]

Ehhh

In R7B2 intel told us that anomalies incoming

[lilac island]

Huh?

[cold sphinx]

The intel when pulling the class V alarm

[cold sphinx]

I mean they could be a mutation

[coral gorge]

i think in one log it is said the sleepers adapted to hunting in the complete dark or smth

[cold sphinx]

Well now thats just the normal white sleeping ones we usually deal with

[burnt wren]

Much unfortunately no. Their existence is basically unacknowledged for the most part.

[lilac island]

That's too bad

[cold sphinx]

Well for starters

There is literally no way you could observe one

Let alone capturing one for further studies

[lilac island]

Well

They probably used to have lights on

[cold sphinx]

Wdym?

Even with 400+ lumines

The shadow is still a vauge figure

And in room lighting it only shows their shadows

If we pull game logic in to this it makes it harder to even mute out a shadow in order to capture it

But if i do recall very quickly

Shadows dont spill out that much blood when you damage them right?

[lilac island]

I'm gonna press x to doubt on that one

[cold sphinx]

You catch one smart guy

[lilac island]

All our flashlights are garbage and nowhere close to 400 lumens

And we can see them

300 lumens is visibility out to like 100 meters

[cold sphinx]

I mean yeah you can see them

Wait did i type 400 lumines?

[lilac island]

Yeah 400+

[cold sphinx]

Oh shit I didn’t notice

[lilac island]

So i guess you meant 40

[cold sphinx]

I thought it was 40 plus

Dang it

But still

Its really hard to capture one

[lilac island]

I don't remember how many lux an indoor space should be but there's info about it

Lux is basically lumens per area or volume cant rember

Probably area

It's around 300 iirc

[cold sphinx]

Maybe

But how do you capture one

[lilac island]

Same way you'd capture a sleeper

[cold sphinx]

Lets say if its the only one in that room

[lilac island]

Probably

[cold sphinx]

Well you’d have to risk alot more getting your hand bitten off trying to tie its mouth

Even if you did it doesn’t make sure that the damn thing is muted

[harsh pike]

if sleepers react to light, how do they exist on the surface? Wouldn't the sun basically fry their senses?

[burnt wren]

You walk outside every day, yet you will wake up if I flash a light in your eyes while you're sleeping.

It's not about the light itself - they're not vampires, clearly so - it's about the drastic change in lighting.

It does not, however, explain why they don't wake up when ambient lights in their rooms start malfunctioning. Probably just a gameplay thjng.

[lilac island]

I suppose the same applies to sound

[burnt wren]

Yes. Majority of video games do not get gun sound.

Spoiler: it's very fucking loud.

[lilac island]

They eventually left Unit 23 alone though, so it's more than just that

[burnt wren]

I think the only game that got it "right" was Dying Light 1, where every time you took a shot it would alert a very far away quick zombie, that then would rush to come and find you.

[lilac island]

https://tenor.com/view/jinn-kid-skyrim-tik-tok-must-have-been-the-wind-gif-16147100

[burnt wren]

Not to mention the sheer hearing damage from shooting guns in cramped spaces like we do.

Although to be fair most masks seem to come with a handy integrated headset

[clear furnace]

Honestly thank god, the hearing damage would be insane

[harsh pike]

L4D moment where hailing gunfire doesn't draw infected, but pumping gas to a plane does

[burnt wren]

Yep

[cold sphinx]

The red variant

[bronze wing]

theres a log somewhere in r3 talking about two different variants existing

from gallius

[lilac island]

this and aren't we in like 2052? we have hydrostasis and shit idk why wouldn't guns have some tech that makes them quieter

[eternal talon]

2060s

[harsh pike]

that would be suppressors

[lilac island]

yea

like integrated into every weapon

[harsh pike]

but they're clearly not they have muzzle brakes or just open-ended barrels

the DMR/double tap appear to be suppressed, not that it makes a difference

[lilac island]

then it's just game reasons for why they're so quiet

like white sleepers disintegrating

when it's red ones that do that

[harsh pike]

honestly enemies not melting away would be very cool as an option

to see the bodies piling up during an alarm

[naive crow]

irl suppressors wear out after about 100 shots, and they're still about as loud as a car door
maybe the warden has em but just doesn't see the point

[harsh pike]

suppressors definitely do not wear that quickly but they are still loud

i'm like 80% sure the DMR/double tap are suppressed but again the distances are so short it doesn't really make a difference

[burnt wren]

Not to mention that primary purpose of suppressors is the suppression of muzzle flash so that enemies can't tell where you are.
Something that is of no concern to our blind neighbors.

And I doubt Warden cares for our hearing loss. Again: our helmets probably have integrated headsets for a reason.

[ebon whale]

thats like saying "oh heres a mask that doesnt work against toxic gas but have it anyway"

like whats the point of a suppressor if it still wakes up enemies

[eternal talon]

Would you rather wake 2 rooms when you fire or the entire level?

[ebon whale]

close the doors, then fire

[raw terrace]

all this realistic talk about suppressors doesnt go with the 'just close the door'

[burnt wren]

That too.

[loud urchin]

I'll never quite understand the people vying for absolute realism in any scifi/fantasy game

[ebon whale]

[tepid crane]

Suppressors in real life are more to protect to user from the incredible volume of the shot. They do not render weapons silent. One thing I honestly kinda dislike about video games tbh

[strange grove]

no silencers make the bullets silent its in the name

[burnt wren]

Video games, movies, comics... It's literally everywhere. And I think Hollywood started this trend first, because it made for great writing tool to put your stealth scene on easy difficulty.

At this point I wonder if amount of people that think that silencers make guns quiet exceed the amount of people who actually know.

Makes for a fun video game mechanic as well, but literally never makes sense.

Actually the one time it makes sense is a rare pvp game where equipping silencer prevents you from appearing enemies' radars when shooting, but they still can hear you.

[lilac island]

Ear protection protects the users ears

[keen parcel]

Wait silencers just slow down the gas that is propelling the bullet so it doesnt make such a loud bang right ?

[lilac island]

what are your predictions for r8 lore

[cold sphinx]

honestly

being we breaking the cycle

[lilac island]

Follow up question: Wtf is that thing #gtfo-media message

looks like a worm

[cold sphinx]

yes

better ask @eternal talon

[lilac island]

i thought we had never seen a parasite up close

[burnt wren]

Unfortunately we can't tell because we don't have any confirmation. We can assume that's how parasite looks like, OR it's just a random ass worm, aka the most basic universal form of life.

[lilac island]

but why would they put a regular ass worm into an artifact encasement

[burnt wren]

Who "they"? Devs? Aliens? Who knows. It's just a creepy thing to find.

[coral gorge]

I mean artifacts might just be fossils of some kind

but who knows

[frail pollen]

just saving a tasty worm snack in a crystal container to eat a few hundred years later. om nom nom nom

[lilac island]

noted

[toxic wagon]

people who call the artifacts candies

[coral gorge]

OH piece of candy!

OH piece of candy!

OH piece of candy!

[toxic wagon]

[dreamy hornet]

Welp here's to hoping that we get a Lore dump/summary from 10 chambers after R8 has been out for a bit

[raw terrace]

we have a summary on #gtfo-lore on the pinned comments

[short gazelle]

Kinda, they slow the rate of gas coming out of the barrel after the round exits

[merry frost]

Official release of GTFO was with rundown 6. Humans have 46 chromosomes. The last rundown will be rundown 8. Chimpanzees have 48 chromosomes. The prisoners will grab a data cube that will transport them into a dimension much like in the 2001 film Planet of the Apes with Mark Wahlberg where he returns after a space voyage to a statue of Aperaham Lincoln

[lilac island]

plausible theory

[strange grove]

after playing RXGC, I can now confirm this theory from the secret gamescom log

[lilac island]

i do hope someone recorded the gamescom level

would like to see it

[sudden quarry]

I tried recording it, but a mysterious presence ripped the camera from my hand and threw it away unfortunately 🙁

[merry frost]

why was my theory thumbs down'ed? i spent 20 minutes in the shower thinking of that one....

[sudden quarry]

They hate it cause it’s the truth

and sometimes nothing hurts more than the truth

[vestal delta]

Starting to think we should just make a new lore channel for chimp theory

actually

Chimp Theory

🐒 🍤 Chimp and Shrimp theory is now BANNED from lore chat, if you wanna talk monkey busiess do it in this thread. #1149020259425202247🍤 🐒

[strange grove]

our primate truth will not be silenced

[vestal delta]

thats why theres the thread

[eternal talon]

i'm glad that its banned, but seriously... why encourage them?

[burnt wren]

It's petty to nuke them for being idiots

[plush nest]

Waste of ressources

[vestal delta]

well if people actually want to talk chimp theory they can now, if they were just doing it to troll then now they cant do that

[eternal talon]

on the contrary, i'll take whatever victory i can get in terms of keeping gtfo-lore about actual, factual lore

[plush nest]

Big brain

[burnt wren]

Agree to disagree. I just learned the art of ignoring people once they start acting like internet demons

[raw terrace]

internet demons? more like, FLEA DEMONS, HAH

sorry

[eternal talon]

not everyone can do that when the goal is teaching people that want to learn the story

its not a good learning environment

[merry frost]

evolution is a fact, not merely a scientific theory. our biological relationship to Pan troglodytes is undeniable

[vestal delta]

is that chimp theory talk? outside of chimp theory chat?

[merry frost]

no, im talking about biology

[vestal delta]

about chimps

[burnt wren]

Googles pan troglodyte

Yep, that's a chimpanzee

[vestal delta]

youre treading thin ice RyK

[merry frost]

yo who gave chimps that species nomenclature thats fked up

😭

[burnt wren]

Man, I always though troglodytes were like lizards or crabs

Or am I thinking of someone else...

[vestal delta]

i just thoght it was an insult

[burnt wren]

That's a part of it

[merry frost]

people use it as an insult, but it means like cave-man or like super primitive barbaric person

[vestal delta]

well thats something that can be discussed in #1149020259425202247

[burnt wren]

TRILOBITE, that's who I was thinking of

[merry frost]

thats a fossil

[burnt wren]

The armored crab thing

Looks cool as shit, you can make tank designs out of that

[frail pollen]

I have a question

[vestal delta]

ask

[frail pollen]

At what point in the evolutionary process are you no longer considered a chimp and therefor allowed to be discussed here

[vestal delta]

when you have the human amount of chromosomes

glad to clear that up

[frail pollen]

thank you, much appreciated

[loud urchin]

rip chimp theory, you will be dearly missed by some

[vestal delta]

you guys literally have an exclusive thread for chimp theory alone

what more could you want

drama queens

[sudden quarry]

can we discuss the idea that schaeffer might actually be a sleeper who learnt how to speak english

[vestal delta]

hmm

sure

but if the word chimp is said even once ill ban you from lore chat

im half kidding

[sudden quarry]

what if im using it to insult him for deceiving us

[vestal delta]

sure

any other context though

😠 no

[strange grove]

soy you are a chimp

[graceful frost]

I've got a few ideas about a monkey theory that has some evidence to support it.

[vestal delta]

Just to be clean in case you guys think I'm joking about all this. Chimp theory or anything like it is actually not allowed here anymore.

If you actually care about the theory or anything you have somewhere else you can talk about it. If you keep talking about it here we'll assume you're trolling and will remove your lore access.

I'm only going to give one warning

[graceful frost]

didn't know it was such a big problem, I was surprised people were really getting into it

i do have input on frosty's line crossing thoery

give me one second

[charred vault]

where does shrimp theory fall into this new rule can we post about that 🍤

[vestal delta]

explain it

[strange grove]

right here

[vestal delta]

oh ok

yeah thats banned too

let me change chimp theorys name

[strange grove]

is this rule retroactive

[vestal delta]

no

that would be unfair

its only things posted after i sent this message

[charred vault]

The NAM-V infection was not caused by extraterrestrial parasites as many people commonly think. It was caused by microbes that contaminated the Atlantic Ocean due to Dreyfus Industries polluting the water from all the gunk they extracted from the Chupacabra Crater. The resulting mutations affecting the local shrimp wildlife transformed them into something... alternate...

[strange grove]

so if I were to edit my old messages to discuss chimp theory that would be ok?

[vestal delta]

depends

if you redirect people to those old messages then no it wouldnt be

but if you do it in a way that no one notices, well no one would notice

[sudden quarry]

real lore intellectuals discussing chimp theory in edited 2020 messages

[strange grove]

so its ok if I post about chimp theory?

[vestal delta]

sure unless i decide its not ok

but i wont punish you for doing it

unless you do so after i say its not ok

[sudden quarry]

this really has just become frosty's playground...

if she doesnt like ur theory, you're gone...

[vestal delta]

if thats how you feel then please say something to @ruby lake

we dont want people gatekeeping theories here

we just also dont want peopel posting "joke" theories just to annoy people

[strange grove]

how will you determine what a joke is

[vestal delta]

using my degree from clown college

if i tell you my exact criteria then people could just skirt around it

[strange grove]

if i use burner accounts and a lot of testing to figure out the exact criteria am i allowed to skirt around it

[vestal delta]

no because you will be banned for using alts

[strange grove]

how would you know its me

[vestal delta]

also by using my degree from clown college

[strange grove]

can't believe im getting banned for playing alt rundowns...

[mental stump]

🙈

[graceful frost]

I'm liking your direction with this. What do you think of my take?

[charred vault]

Holy toledo! Things are starting to make sense now...

[eternal talon]

we do not know if we are going to multiple versions of destination. You could make a case that alpha two in r6b1 is different from alpha two in r7e1, but it could go either way.

[willow geyser]

Woah leaked r8?

[graceful frost]

Hmm... I'll put some more thinking into it

Your diagrams were very complicated to understand, could you make a document on how to understand them?

[mental stump]

Perhaps with a banana

[graceful frost]

maybe pin it in this channel?

[mental stump]

Maybe pin a banana

[eternal talon]

also i don't understand your pathing from original to alt. we have no idea currently how the warden managed to merge worldlines and in gameplay, we dont even jump from destination location to destination location

[eternal talon]

not neccessary

[graceful frost]

why not?

[eternal talon]

because it may (and probably will) change when r8 or alt//r6 releases on how we merged with alt//., and even if it didn't, its not that great of a visual aid. It's made in microsoft paint ffs. if i were to make a proper chart detailing it, then it would be worthy

for now, i cant be bothered as it wouldn't help anywhere near enough people to be worth my time

[vestal delta]

I see that trying to deal with this in a nice way isnt working

misuse of this channel will now be treated much more severely

[charred vault]

do u think its the warden that merges or the timelines? or the virus that henrickyson used to hack him?

[burnt wren]

Violence is the supreme authority from which all other authorities derive.

[charred vault]

i have this engraved on my gun... very relatable to the themes of gtfo.