gtfo-related-questions

[past mesa]

Light tap is bad mechanic. Very punishing

[lone mortar]

oh i havent in a while

[lone mortar]

^

[past mesa]

If my attack just chargers a little

[topaz anvil]

PT shill alert

[lone mortar]

literally worse for you light tapping instead of charging up an attac

[grizzled widget]

i disagree. it has serious potential

[past mesa]

It does

[grizzled widget]

depends on the weapon

vanilla weapons it sucks ass

[lone mortar]

yeah

[grizzled widget]

they arent made for that

[past mesa]

It doesn’t

[grizzled widget]

im talking about a new weapon, like the greatmace, that is made specifically for it

[past mesa]

It is just a hold button and I have to train my brain to deal with it

[dry pumice]

Exactly

[past mesa]

Can you just tell me the values

[grizzled widget]

and?

[grizzled widget]

gimme a sec

[hardy grotto]

is this the lore channel now

[lone mortar]

yo @dry pumice

u free?

[past mesa]

I am pretty sure when we played your mod we just nodded back on the hammer

[past mesa]

Yeah

[dry pumice]

No I'm at work

Also stop pinging me

[grizzled widget]

we have four. battleaxe, mace, spear, knife

[lone mortar]

[dry pumice]

I'm never free

[lone mortar]

yeah im just taking wild guesses

but have fun at work tho

[past mesa]

Yeah we just modded back in hammer vanilla stats

[grizzled widget]

rude. am i not allowed to talk in other channels?

[lone mortar]

zamn

hot take Frostty?

[dry pumice]

It's a joke

[lone mortar]

no way

[hardy grotto]

☠️

[grizzled widget]

"PublicName": "<color=#00B0FF>Flanged Mace</color>",
"NoiseLevel": 0,
"ChargedAttackDamage": 7.1,
"LightAttackDamage": 5.0,
"LightStaggerMulti": 5.0,
"ChargedStaggerMulti": 5.0,
"LightPrecisionMulti": 1.0,
"ChargedPrecisionMulti": 1.0,
"LightEnvironmentMulti": 5.0,
"ChargedEnvironmentMulti": 5.0,
"LightBackstabberMulti": 1.0,
"ChargedBackstabberMulti": 1.0,
"LightSleeperMulti": 1.0,
"ChargedSleeperMulti": 1.0,

"HoldToChargeTime": 0.2,
"MaxDamageChargeTime": 1.0,
"AutoAttackTime": 3.4,
"AutoAttackWarningTime": 2.9,

just keep in mind the stuff in pt is balanced for pt

[past mesa]

Yeah ik this just seems annoying to play with tbh

It gives me the same vibes as knife

[grizzled widget]

idk. is my go-to when playing with others. personal taste?
(we also have the knife and it plays completely diff)

our knife is criticals only or no dmg

[past mesa]

Yeah but if charger attack doesn’t do anything for this losing your stuff is funny

[grizzled widget]

what?

wdym losing your stuff?

[past mesa]

Nvm I can’t read

Okay this is kinda a disgusting weapon

It has melee mom

light tap giant

Occi?

[grizzled widget]

enemy stats arent changed in pt.

its basically just the bat on a stick with more focus on light taps than charge

[past mesa]

With yellow it probs has melee p mom

Yeah I noticed, giving it the 25 stagger tho makes the things that bat is good at just disgusting tbh

I don’t like mom hammer

[dry pumice]

Is this English

[past mesa]

It is funny but needs a nerf

[grizzled widget]

its not for vanilla. PT has its own balance scale. your equipment isnt scavenged, its military grade

[dry pumice]

You write like XQC talks

[grizzled widget]

it also throws more stuff at you than in vanilla

[past mesa]

I mean we just played your stuff with vanilla guns

It went pretty well

[grizzled widget]

well cool for you, but i dont see how thats relavant

[past mesa]

Cause vanilla guns are good

[grizzled widget]

how long ago did you play pt? pt has had its own entire custom arsenal for like 6+ months

it doesnt even let you select vanilla weapons

[past mesa]

we modded it back in

[grizzled widget]

why?

[past mesa]

Anything that changed melee we do it for

[past mesa]

To many guns not worth learning when we play for 3 days then are done

[grizzled widget]

its kinda disrespectful to the mod tbh. it has its own arsenal to offer with its own experiences.

[past mesa]

this is before weapon stat shower

[past mesa]

Did you have stats in their text box

Cause if not it isn’t worth our time to go through every gun until we find the one close to og game

[grizzled widget]

if you'd visit our server you'd be able to find them but i guess you can't be bothered

[past mesa]

Yeah I just play the game

[grizzled widget]

then don't bother playing pt. it isn't for gameplay. it even says in the description, if you read it, that its for people that care about story

[sturdy glen]

wha

[grizzled widget]

IF YOU ARE NOT INTERESTED IN STORY/LORE, THIS RUNDOWN IS NOT FOR YOU.

[past mesa]

based

[floral acorn]

damn u frostty for fixing d1 uplink 🙂

still havent done it since. maybe cant anymore.

[past mesa]

massive respect frosty fixed d1 before devs

[grizzled widget]

that was a really long time ago. i fix stuff as soon as its sent to me, but lets not talk about that on this server.

[floral acorn]

ye

[past mesa]

No point in stopping now

[grizzled widget]

you are just something else. enjoy your day. i'm not going to be talking to you anymore.

[past mesa]

XD

Based

[hardy grotto]

pt shill at it again...

welcome to the pits of tartarus jish

enjoy your stay

[past mesa]

Been in hell all my life apparently that is what my dad told me

[hardy grotto]

Damn...

[past mesa]

This is so sad

[past star]

What the fuck is a meter

[past mesa]

it is like a foot

and a bit

[hidden ridge]

What the hell is a yard

or an ounce

[icy cave]

a civilized measure of distance

[ocean spindle]

a place with grass or somethin

[past mesa]

i think that is a lawn

[ocean spindle]

ah right

[hidden ridge]

And who even thought about Month/Day/Year?

And why do the brits drive in the other sense?

[past star]

🇺🇸

[ocean spindle]

and what the fuck is a fuck

[hidden ridge]

Fun fact: Asians use year/month/day

[icy cave]

a yard is basically a common man's square

[past mesa]

i hate to break it to you

[icy cave]

they don't they just drive on the wrong side

[past mesa]

when two people love each other not a lot

[hidden ridge]

You can see it as starting from the big picture and going into the details

[past star]

Nah this shits right. 100%

[hidden ridge]

Europeans do the opposite with day/month/year

[past star]

The other ways fucked up

[past star]

Messed up

[past mesa]

why you being nationlistic today

[hidden ridge]

no

[ocean spindle]

just write it like Monday 2023
fuck it

guess which monday

[icy cave]

he probably shot some kid at school or something

[past star]

Cause it was funny

https://tenor.com/view/sfm-soldier-tf2-meme-american-gif-24728385

[hidden ridge]

There's many things that I like about the US

Like...

[icy cave]

pineapple on pizza?

[past mesa]

their confidence

[past star]

Me?

[hidden ridge]

😆

👍

[past mesa]

👃

[hidden ridge]

Gun laws aren't THAT bad

[past mesa]

XD

XDXDXD

[icy cave]

they ain't I wish there was zero restrictions here as well

[ocean spindle]

usa gave us cool space pics... and...

somethin else

[hidden ridge]

It gets silly with the 100 rifles per person, yes, or stuff sold at Walmart or whatever

[ocean spindle]

maybe

[icy cave]

and just let darwin's law take its course

[hidden ridge]

But believe me the opposite isn't much fun

[ocean spindle]

come here, in my country normal people dont have guns, but u could get em if u want em and just buy em illegally

[past mesa]

i got into a disagreement in walmart the other day

that was great

[hidden ridge]

Is it like the videos I saw from a deleted channel?

[past mesa]

100%

[hidden ridge]

Where there's fat guys or girls in carts?

[past mesa]

you know it

[hidden ridge]

lel

I also like US ships tbh

[past star]

Don’t define us by Walmart. People there are their own special breed.

Basically their own country

[hidden ridge]

CV-6 Enterprise... I once saw a USN Carrier but I was too young to remember which one

I think it was the modern Nimitz but I dont have a picture

[icy cave]

yeah yeah yeah keep telli9ng yourself that, we know they are the REAL americans

man thats one of the first places I am goin when visiting the US, walmart

[hidden ridge]

I like USA's spirit sometimes I'll be sincere

[past star]

They’re definitely using their “freedoms”

[hidden ridge]

Some EU nations have a large number of defeatists

(mine included)

Where the "our country is shit and we should do like X country who's INCREDIBLY better"

Is often argued by people

[icy cave]

mama mia, we have no pasta anymore 🤌

[past mesa]

Xd

[hidden ridge]

Bucatini, Farfalle, Rigatoni, Trenette

[icy cave]

I got fusilli at home

[hidden ridge]

Spaghetti alla chitarra!!!

[ocean spindle]

cucumber, wait no not that

[hidden ridge]

one of my favourites

[past mesa]

you literally couldnt afford to live here @past star

[hidden ridge]

go with most sauces

[icy cave]

imported from italy

[hidden ridge]

Rummo/De Cecco?

Garofalo, La molisana...

[icy cave]

De Cecco

[past star]

What’s the update with those fires?

[hidden ridge]

my second favourite (before Rummo and close to Voiello)

[past mesa]

almost to my door step

[icy cave]

some italian friends are in the import business they also get us some panetonis

[past mesa]

very exciting

[past star]

That’s what I thought

[hidden ridge]

eh real good artisinal ones are fucking fantastic

[past mesa]

IT is almost cheeper to live

[hidden ridge]

I once got one from Milan and I still dream about it

[past mesa]

on campus

then renting with 6 people

[icy cave]

I mean I like these ones, but I do not know the brand will need to check on next delivery

[hidden ridge]

Tre Marie makes decent commercial panettonis

Galup also is incredibly good

A shame we eat Panettone only during winter

[icy cave]

will see what ours are, only get them round christmas

[icy cave]

yes

[past star]

Next on my list today I would like to start a weapon debate

[past mesa]

pr is a good sniper

[icy cave]

I am for weapons for everyone

[past star]

PR isn’t a sniper

[hidden ridge]

I'll make you laugh, jish

In the official italian translation of GTFO

[past mesa]

YES

YES

[hidden ridge]

konig and Pr are both "Fucile di Precisione"

[past mesa]

based as fuck

[hidden ridge]

Basically they're both named sniper rifle

[past star]

This lore is crazy

[past mesa]

italians are the best gtfo palyers

[icy cave]

précision rifles * which is technically correct

but does not mean both are snipers

[past star]

I’m making more channel aware of this

[hidden ridge]

Yeah Sniper rifle would be fucile da cecchino

Which I wonder why they didnt use THAT for the sniper?

[icy cave]

again you got corrected by the french

[hidden ridge]

shameful, I admit

[icy cave]

as the law of nature wills it

[hidden ridge]

🤣

[grizzled widget]

Je ne parle pas francais

[icy cave]

chimp theory is true the rest is all false

[past mesa]

dont join the blocked list

not worth

[grizzled widget]

No

[dry pumice]

I used to know what carrot in French is but i forgot

[icy cave]

you asked for it

[grizzled widget]

I most certainly did not

[icy cave]

you mean carotte ?

[dry pumice]

I swear it was something else

[icy cave]

nope look it up

[dry pumice]

Cotlette?

[icy cave]

thats meat

VERY far from carrots m8

[icy cave]

cotelette -> cutlet

[dry pumice]

Cabbage?

[icy cave]

or a chop

[icy cave]

thats: chou

[dry pumice]

Dammit, French is a lot less cool than I remember

Eh, I was the 3/5 student

[icy cave]

it s so easy as english is based on french

so you really not looking very far for translations

[dry pumice]

La petite

"small"?

[craggy pier]

petite

[icy cave]

the small (in feminine)

[dry pumice]

Potatoe?

[past star]

Potato*

[icy cave]

pomme de terre

[past star]

Tomatoe?

[bold epoch]

hmm, the objective command for bot carry items doesn't work everytime, am i doing something wrong

[icy cave]

tomate

[bold epoch]

they keep standing on item

[past star]

Yes

[craggy pier]

its just broken

[icy cave]

they can't during alarms

basically just don't use bots you'll be better off

[craggy pier]

they dont pick up at all

[dry pumice]

there we go, that's the French I remember

[bold epoch]

so if there is Alarm: ERROR mean i gotta hop items by myself ?

[icy cave]

yep

[dry pumice]

yes

[ocean spindle]

yeh

[bold epoch]

oh my lord

[ocean spindle]

:3

[hidden ridge]

welcome to r2c2

It's still doable with vanilla bots tbh

[dry pumice]

Welcome to "bots are shit"

[ocean spindle]

u dont need to carry a lot of stuff on that mission tbh

its a pretty easy mission with bots

[icy cave]

just the turbine

through one zone

[hidden ridge]

yeah you dont, cells are close to the doors anyway

[ocean spindle]

just one zone

[bold epoch]

turbine/power cells

[icy cave]

ah yeah and cells

[bold epoch]

me and my friend always short hand

[icy cave]

one grabs cell, other shoots

its just 4 enemies each wave

[ocean spindle]

or run in melee if there isnt a lot

[icy cave]

not very bad

hammer them down

[ocean spindle]

bat em down

knife em down

[icy cave]

ez pz, saves ammo

[ocean spindle]

not spear, u cant run with spear

[icy cave]

even slendi has seen the light

[bold epoch]

and about melee on warning ERROR

bot keep shotting them

[icy cave]

just don't give em ammo. that will learn em

[bold epoch]

ah yes, the old fashion way

[ocean spindle]

let one person grab all the bots, and u run in melee in another room

[bold epoch]

i lost many HP by bots more than sleeper

[ocean spindle]

dont give em firepower, give em machineguns n stuff

[icy cave]

you can pretty chill hammer down the waves and have only one of you 2 grab the turbine

[ocean spindle]

so they dont shotgun u in the back

[hidden ridge]

give bots burst rifle/veruta

[ocean spindle]

that way if they do shoot u is, less than 10%

[bold epoch]

in short, this game doesn't mean to play with bots

[hidden ridge]

To be fair, after a certain point, vanilla bots, no

[icy cave]

only 1 cell is mandatory, if RNG decides you need 2nd well just do it I guess

[ocean spindle]

i mean u can but its funnier with people

this mission u can

the rest of r2 is gonna be hard

[icy cave]

no if you think this is hard, R2E1 is impossible

[bold epoch]

anyway, i got the idea bot is broken on carry items

[ocean spindle]

yeah, they can as long as theres no combat like on, and that levels just combat

[craggy pier]

they are broken on all fronts 🛌

[hidden ridge]

good luck, fellow girls frontline player

[icy cave]

it is but even if it was not you can't finish the game with them

[ocean spindle]

tho if u tell em to grab somethin before an alarm and then u activate it, they hold onto it i think

[bold epoch]

same as you, G11

[dry pumice]

Is veruta the only veruta

[craggy pier]

yes

[dry pumice]

Tfw no veruta-47

[shadow sinew]

https://tenor.com/view/viralhog-gun-fire-murica-flag-america-gif-12183553

aw, that was such a good response to the earlier conversation 😄

[topaz anvil]

Don't stand in front of the bots fartass

[ocean spindle]

im not the one havin issue sandwichface >:[

[cold quarry]

the bots after purposefully getting behind you

[hidden ridge]

"fartass" as opposed to asses that do not fart

[soft crater]

I recall asking someone. Why the hell his bots had burst cannons

[cold quarry]

burst cannon bot is pretty based

not as based as the soon-to-be scattergun bot

[soft crater]

When we were going to melee a gisnt

The bot killed us with the burst cannon

[cold quarry]

least egregious bot FF

[soft crater]

Bot then decided to melee

And died

Bot was throwing

[cold quarry]

when don't they

[dense leaf]

It was Bishop wasn't it

[dense leaf]

Fartass

I laughed way too hard at that

[lunar rain]

What’s order should I do objectives in r5a3?

[lone mortar]

2 terminals has codes

for

[lunar rain]

Yep I knew that

[lone mortar]

and then you get a bulkhead key and do

[lunar rain]

Main is pretty easy

[lone mortar]

is only HSU

[lunar rain]

What is overload’s objective?

[lone mortar]

cell plug

[lunar rain]

Secondary is hsu and error alarm

[lone mortar]

2 cells

[lunar rain]

Oh that’s a lot more easy than I thought

[lone mortar]

makes the fog toxic

[lunar rain]

We do solo gaming and see how it goes

[lone mortar]

going home with the HSU is gonna be the hard part

[lunar rain]

Why? Don’t you just grab it and run to the apex door?

[lone mortar]

the thing is

is pretty long

for and extra HSU

[lunar rain]

Like how long we talking for the whole pe run roughy?

[lone mortar]

average always is 50-1 hour

cause is respawn with scouts

3 scouts total that can respawn

[errant bluff]

im looking for someone who can show me the ropes maybe in a 2-man? Not sure what is best for this.

[ocean spindle]

haii, u can join n share lobbies in the LFG channels

.t lfg

[uneven gulch]

Hello! If you are unaware, we have Looking For Group (LFG) channels to help users group up and play the game. They are located here: #lfg-north-america / #lfg-latin-america / #lfg-eastern-europe / #lfg-western-europe / #lfg-asia / #lfg-oceania / #lfg-africa / #lfg-beginners.

If you are unsure of how to create or join a lobby, please see the instructions here: #how-to-matchmake.

[ocean spindle]

there u can ask about playin with a pro n stuff
just some advice!
always ask to not be carried and make sure that everyone joinin ur lobby joins ur voice channel
and if you are new be sure to do the tutorial first [Training] and start on rundown 1 since its the simplest one

[tho tbh, i would recommend more like learnin the game by urself, its very fun to do so]

[tall storm]

Hi everyone, i am new to the game, i like it very much so far. I have a few question about the difficulty (sorry for my english) : do the rundowns go harder and harder ? I mean, is R2 harder than R1, R3 harder than R2, etc etc ?? And in a rundown, do the levels get harder the deeper you go ? Is R1C2 harder than R1C1, R1D1 harder than R1C2 etc etc ??

[cold quarry]

the deeper you go, yes it gets harder

rundowns get more complex as you go on (adding mechanics and enemies)

which I suppose does make them harder

[tall storm]

ok thanks ! pretty logical

[ocean spindle]

rundowns dont have a difficulty order, some are just harder and some are easier because they were made separately

like, yes rundown 1 is the easiest, but then the next easier one is rundown 3, and then hardest is rundown 5

and its weird

so the best way to play them usually is just to go in order, and if you get stuck, jump to the next rundown

[tall storm]

ok thank, i ll try to make in the order they have been release i guess.

[cold quarry]

thats best

[tall storm]

and a last question, what's the "artefact intensity" (not sur about the translation, my game is in french) ? I have done almost all levels in R1, some of them are marked 100%, some 98%, one is 83% ?

[ocean spindle]

i have a copypasta for this !

[cold quarry]

artifacts build up progress for a booster

pick up more, heat (% per artifact) goes down

[ocean spindle]

artifact heat its a way to measure how valuable are artifacts to the progress of a booster
for example
100% artifact heat means one muted artifact gives 0.20% of a booster
but 50% artifact heat means one muted artifact will give 0.10
when the number hits 1.00, a booster is given.

[cold quarry]

your numbers are wrong L bozo

[ocean spindle]

ik is an example

[cold quarry]

100% is 15%, and 50 is like .75

[cold quarry]

unacceptable. to the grinder

[tall storm]

ok i got the idea, thx

[ocean spindle]

ur signs are wrong bozo what do u mean 100% is 15%

[cold quarry]

100% heat 15% boostie

[ocean spindle]

b consistent

write it with decimals

or ill die

[cold quarry]

perish.

[formal yoke]

.75 would also be 75%. ^^^

[ocean spindle]

yes but u gotta keep it consistent in the measurements otherwise its confusin qwq

[formal yoke]

That's what I'm saying. I assume he meant 50% artifact heat gives 7.5% progress towards a booster, but .75 looks like 75%. Wait a minute, you did it too.

"100% artifact heat means one muted artifact gives 0.20% of a booster"

[ocean spindle]

um no not like that
example again
100% would gve u, 0.5 of a booster, not a percentage, just 0.5
but 50% artifact heat, gives u .25

two different numbers

artifact heat is how much the artifact gives you

if its 100%, itll give u the entire 0.5

[agile otter]

Has anybody here cleared R1C2? Me my buddies have had some trouble with the final door. Recommended loadout? Anything really

[ocean spindle]

helloo, well um what tools r u runnin?

[agile otter]

Sniper turret, 2 bursts, bioscanner

And typically we have a mix of thermal sight pdws, bullpups, Burst rifles for mains, and 2 of the desert eagle type handguns and 2 m870 type shotguns

[ocean spindle]

mhh oki, well sniper sentry with bio usually needs long corridors to be able to shoot, and the last alarm its pretty full of corners, so it doesnt have time to track the enemies; i would probs swap it for a shotgun sentry to be able to hold the ladder as a chokepoint or even mines to just, spam em on the last alarm and close and mine the doors of the previous zone

[halcyon mango]

Hel gun, hel rifle all tear up the charger waves pretty good

[ocean spindle]

as in the guns, the high cal is pretty bad againts chargers, it has 25 dmg againts a 30 hp enemy, o it doesnt oneshot em
usually chokemods, the normal shottie or the hel rifle are good oneshot weapons, tho the normal shottie is pretty short range so it is harder to hit

others like the hel gun can two shot too, which is very nice

[halcyon mango]

Do the side doors before you do the class 3s at the end. You only need to do one of the class 3 doors next to the apex door

[ocean spindle]

lastly the bullpup is not a good weapon for this cause of the reload, i would swap it for somethin faster, even the dmr is ot bad at all againts chargers cause it reloads much faste and i think its 4 hits to kill one, even w/o the head multiplier

[ocean spindle]

u nee to open it, its a key door, the key is in one of the side doors
also the final one is a class IV not a III, the class III are the ones at the sides

but yeah u only need one

s u can have two spawn points, which is much more manaheable than havin the three doors open

[halcyon mango]

Apex door is the class 4 yes

[agile otter]

Yeah a mistake we made was not using the terminal to see which zone we needed to enter. Ended up going into both 98 and 99

[halcyon mango]

Yeah, then doing the class 4 would definitely be hard

[jaunty latch]

hel shotgun works extremely well against chargers too just they have to be close to you

[agile otter]

None of us really use the HEL guns but I may run one next time then

[ocean spindle]

u just kinda need to open every door before that, no need to kill enemies, but open all the doors before that hub zone

hel guns are fun

hel weaponry based

[halcyon mango]

If you’re not careful they’ll tongue you to death. So range from hel gun and rifle is good

[ocean spindle]

also yeah hel shottie is nice also cause it staggers and can take out a huge wave

tho u need a bit of cover cause the reloads long

or a fast special to switch to

[agile otter]

Ok, maybe we will swap the sniper for a shotgun sentry

[jaunty latch]

its mag is big enough for it to not be that much of a problem in practice

[agile otter]

Now is the sniper the only one buffed by a bioscanner?

[ocean spindle]

shotgun is too

biotracker symbiosis

[agile otter]

Great

[ocean spindle]

depends, if u catch the wave yeah but if u have 2 3 4 u nee to kill individually it can nom ur butt

[agile otter]

We like it in general for defense because it can help us know where to place turrets

[halcyon mango]

Though you can always hope for it to be even larger

[agile otter]

But the symbiosis is a bonus

[ocean spindle]

bio is based i always have one

[agile otter]

Also we use Spears for melee primarily if there's debate about that

[ocean spindle]

eh kinda

its a very slow melee

[agile otter]

Found they work really well for ganging up on the big guys

[halcyon mango]

Thats fine. Though not being able to charge while running feels bad

[ocean spindle]

u cant run with it, it deals less base dmg than a hammer, and its just kinda hammer but, worse
but, BUT, it is great for learnin to sneak

cause of the range

[jaunty latch]

Spear is the easiest one to use in stealth

[ocean spindle]

and tbh u wont be meleein chargers that are awake either

[halcyon mango]

No swing jank

[ocean spindle]

so u can use it but at some point i would suggest u change it up for another one

[agile otter]

Slow yes but our strategy is mostly to stealth a room unless absolutely necessary

[ocean spindle]

i mean yeah but with hammer u can do spear things, and being able to run

[agile otter]

And having 4 people in positing with the spear is a guarantee to jeep it quiet

[agile otter]

Word

[ocean spindle]

the microsoft one?

:3

[agile otter]

Yeah

[ocean spindle]

cool program except when its not cool

[agile otter]

Thanks for the tips! It is the last one in R1 we need to complete

[ocean spindle]

nice

[agile otter]

HEL good for dealing with scouts?

[ocean spindle]

also if u do, change up melees
bat and knife cant oneshot chargers, they need two hits to the back, or one in the back two in front which is possible, but harder to do

so kinda stick to hammer n spear

[jaunty latch]

rifle yes, gun no

the hel gun c a n kill them in the back of the head just its awkward

[ocean spindle]

hel gun needs back of the head, so good if u can like aim, hel rifle oneshots, and hel shottie is, kinda funky cause it needs 2 3 shots for very close in the back of the head to assure the kill

[ocean spindle]

i mean depends on positioning, and if ur not under pressure u can wait till u have the angle

[jaunty latch]

the hel shotgun your better off just meleeing it

[halcyon mango]

Hel rifle to the head or back. Dont hit chest

[ocean spindle]

also u can melee the scout, headshot full charge with the spear or hammer will kill it

[agile otter]

Good to know. We may keep one person with the handgun or revolver for this purpose then

[ocean spindle]

i mean

[agile otter]

Did not know this

[ocean spindle]

the shotguns can do it too

u said u had bucklands in ur team

choke mod and normal shottie can onetap it in the head, tho the normal shottie u need to be kinda close

chokemod has the range

[agile otter]

Easy enough to get a headshot with the shotgun on them at close range?

[ocean spindle]

yeah, u just wait till they walk to u

and then u blast their dumb face

:3

[agile otter]

Nice

[halcyon mango]

Knowing how to melee them is a valuable skill to have honestly.

[ocean spindle]

or with chokemod u just kinda aim from a safe distabce

[jaunty latch]

note with the normal shotgun you have to close enough that you might as well melee them

[craggy pier]

Are tool mines weaker than mines from boxes or lockers

They are smaller

[sturdy glen]

they are the exact same

[craggy pier]

Weird

[dense leaf]

Explosive trip mines just look fancier

[craggy pier]

I wonder why they need a whole gun to deploy mines

Instead of just carrying them in a bag

[cold quarry]

no idea

the trip mines we carry look like compact versions

[craggy pier]

Yeah

[cold quarry]

actually possibly to avoid risk of detonation

carrying 8 trip mines around in a backpack sounds like a recipe for disaster

[dense leaf]

Or the gun somehow attaches them to whatever surface ur placing them on with some kind of mechanism

[craggy pier]

You could have like spacers oe something

[dense leaf]

And explosive trip mines have that mechanism built into themselves so they're larger

Idk just making shit up

[craggy pier]

They don't have to rattle around

[craggy pier]

Mayhaps

[dense leaf]

U just thrown explosive trips on ur bag tho

[soft crater]

Mskothrow

[cold quarry]

true but that's just one hanging from beneath the bag at least

[dense leaf]

They still need to be armed before risk of detonation

[dense leaf]

One is enough to kill someone

[dense leaf]

NO

[craggy pier]

Has anyone here beat R7D1 yet?

MY squad finished R7C1 last night after 4 hours

[icy cave]

Yes multiple times

[craggy pier]

now we're moving to r7d1,

[icy cave]

What's the problem

[craggy pier]

the whole rundown is the problem bro

[icy cave]

R7 first rundown?

[craggy pier]

any tips for r7d1?

[icy cave]

cause R7C1 is 40 minutes, if it took 4 hours R7D1 will be pain

[icy cave]

Is R7 first rundown?

for you guys

Anyways be prepared for pretty much a bit of everything thrown at you

If you do overload. clear the room, everyone but host disconnects, THEN host input commands, then rest rejoins

This will save you from the worst bug of the map

[ocean spindle]

u probs shouldnt do overload, first off nor in the near future

this level even w/o the bug, just by itself its brutal

so it would just do way more pressure, specially not knowin the map

[craggy pier]

noo, not first rundown but first D level

it took us like 15 tries to finish r7c1 lol

[hidden ridge]

rundown doesn't mean expedition

[icy cave]

Yeah then Def go do R1 -R3 first

[ocean spindle]

yep

[icy cave]

You ain't ready for it yet. R7D1 will eat you guys

R4 and R5 are harder than R7 so leave those for now

[craggy pier]

okk

[fierce walrus]

are you telling me, for once the host migration actually works?

[icy cave]

Everyone EXCEPT host

[craggy pier]

Overload objective is typically harder than the main objective?

[icy cave]

so no migration bruh

[fierce walrus]

oh i cant read

=)

[icy cave]

It makes main harder

[ocean spindle]

yes, and secondary too
the sectors always make a level more longer or difficult

[craggy pier]

oh lol, just when i thought this game couldn't get harder

[icy cave]

Just adds a little something to the level

[icy cave]

M8 if you want to see peak hardness do the R5 PE's 😏

Or even harder: modded rundowns

but can't talk bout those

[craggy pier]

what's modded rundowns

[ocean spindle]

or even harder: tetris

[ocean spindle]

rundowns made by the community

[craggy pier]

ooo

where can i find those

[icy cave]

tetris do be very hard

[ocean spindle]

usually with new guns n enemies or stuff

.t modding

[uneven gulch]

While we do allow the use of some QoL and visual mods, GTFO doesn't officially support modding. However, we do recognize that a GTFO modding community exists and if you are interested in them, you are welcome to check out the modding communities found in #hc-modded (If you have any more questions, please read rule #12 in the rules channel for more information.)

[ocean spindle]

tbh it is

[craggy pier]

that sounds sick

[ocean spindle]

i would recommend u complete some Rundown 1 levels before jumpin to that

[icy cave]

If you take 4 hours for R7C1 a I highly advise against doing modded for now.

[ocean spindle]

ive heard some are, way funkier

[craggy pier]

ok LOL

Good to know for the future

[icy cave]

Modded rundowns were made by peeps who think the game is too easy

[craggy pier]

community maps sounds fun

[icy cave]

So finish vanilla first

and see later

[craggy pier]

nerds 🙄

[turbid horizon]

untrue

[craggy pier]

haha

[turbid horizon]

mostly true

but not always

[icy cave]

Depends which ones, but mostly very true

[ocean spindle]

mostly modded

thats what matters

[turbid horizon]

yeah unless it specifically says like "vanilla oriented" and doesn't say "push u to your limits" or some shit

[craggy pier]

what rundown is it where we have to run outside in the dessert?

[icy cave]

anyways complete R1 -R3 first before doing more R7 stuff

[icy cave]

R7B3sec, R7C2main and sec and R7E1

rest is in R6

But it's only short moments don't hype yourself up

[craggy pier]

sweet

[turbid horizon]

ehhhh

DX

and D1

[ocean spindle]

so r6 skmdkm

[turbid horizon]

ah ic

[icy cave]

Yeah R6 like Icsaid in my message

[ocean spindle]

but yeh those, come in later

[icy cave]

tss tss tss

[ocean spindle]

they cool moments

but dont spoil em

[turbid horizon]

thought u meant the r6 moments were short

[ocean spindle]

they r so fun to figure em out

[icy cave]

Most of em are. Even R6D1 and Dx are very condensed

[craggy pier]

fook ya

[hidden ridge]

What's the lobby code exactly?

I remember figuring out that only like the last 8 digits tend to change from lobby to lobby

[past mesa]

First bit is gtfo steam

[hidden ridge]

And the last 7-8?

[past mesa]

No idea tbh never thought about it that far

Probs the server we are connecting to?

[hidden ridge]

mh...

[spark rampart]

Is there anyway to dodge the strikers/big strikers tongue attack?

[lone mortar]

SLIDE TO LEFT - SLIDE TO THE RIGHT

KRISS CROSS
KRISS CROSS

CHA CHA REAL SMOOTH

[spark rampart]

just that?

[ocean spindle]

in more clear terms u can dodge smol strikers by strifin to one side with good timing

it needs a bit of timing

or not

[lone mortar]

Just that

[spark rampart]

oh

[lone mortar]

[spark rampart]

[ocean spindle]

idk if u can dodge big guys, i never been able to unless i have a corner or a wall or a prop to hide behind it

but its probs my skill issue

[lone mortar]

same as smol

but slide further

[icy cave]

You can, theyvjust have more range.

[silk radish]

You can also dodge the attack if you have a wall you can duck behind

[icy cave]

yes

[ocean spindle]

yeh thats what i said, unless i have a prop to hide behind

[silk radish]

Ah, didn’t see that, apologies

[ocean spindle]

is oki

[soft crater]

what do ya'll think about

R6C3 Main only

[craggy pier]

boring

ovl secondary 🤤

[soft crater]

just because

some people would say it's harder than PE

[craggy pier]

and who these people may be

cuz its def not harder

[soft crater]

various people tbh

while others say it wouldn't be difficult

[craggy pier]

cuz u can open secondary and get extra resources

you have enough resources for 30 mins and you will be grabbing every single pack for sure

maybe not meds

if you are killing

[sacred dew]

Main only do be testing your patience

[past star]

Shut up elitist

[stuck elm]

That level is hardest level in gaem

[craggy pier]

JW if there's a vanilla method to open zone 76 in EVAL and if "Voice" is attached to any lore?

no to vanilla method

lore idk

might have 2 pixels hiding the entire lore scrolls

Is there a hub other than the wiki I should be aware of?

Also L

like for lore?

Yeah, maybe like the santonian industries website?

there is only #gtfo-lore as far as i know

Ok, thanks

[soft crater]

aight. now. what

There's a Mod that gives ALTs checkpoints

[past mesa]

Tbh

[ocean spindle]

we shouldve expected it

[past mesa]

I might release a save state mod for gtfo

So you can checkpoint whenever you want

[sacred dew]

yonk it from CConsole. The newest mod uses MTFO 🤮

[past mesa]

Yeah cconsol

[craggy pier]

I don't even know why I'm trying any more

I don't even knooow

[sacred dew]

There's a somewhat opposite mod that was released just before the checkpoint mod

[craggy pier]

🤔

[sacred dew]

dont want more checkpoints to make the game too easy? Make the game harder lol

[arctic marten]

i want more checkpoints

[craggy pier]

Should be a vanilla thing

Does More harm than good
Cuz in r6 I was too dependent on checkpoints especially r6d1 the class 6 was a milestone for me at the time cuz I kept brute forcing it with 20% hp with only 2 meds left and wasted more time than just reseting

Became more clear with ALT rundowns

Was frustrating but one hurdle to get over to get used to the sweet hard-core feel of the game

[arctic marten]

thats more on you than on checkpoints

[craggy pier]

Yeah I know
It was a cheap way for me to just get it over with but now I see it clearly

[lusty bramble]

before I was blind...

[halcyon mango]

On the other side of the spectrum, sometimes you trip up and lose an hour long run to something dumb (host crash, desync, etc.)

It’s hard when difficulty is a core feature of the game.

[craggy pier]

Rip my friend

[sacred dew]

Checkpoints should be limited to A and B tiers only to be honest. It's a good feature for newbies but quite a nightmare for vets

[arctic marten]

how is it a nightmare for vets

[sacred dew]

bugs, checkpoint bugs haunt me till this day

[ocean spindle]

if u dislike em why do u use tho

[sacred dew]

to find out what happens if I do certain stupid things

[arctic marten]

you would have to restart anyways if the checkpoint wasn't there?

[sacred dew]

Yes but I wanted to use the features that the devs have given the game. Not being able to use it and having to balance it myself is quite disappointing.

Maybe I exaggerated my words a bit too much but that's how I feel about checkpoints, a cool but kinda disappointing feature.

[minor fractal]

Checkpoints are an essential aspect of the level design in multiple levels, especially R7D1.

[fresh wing]

do turrets aqcuisition things below the green scan?

[halcyon mango]

they can aim down if that's what you're asking

[fresh wing]

like if you were to p[lace them at the top of stairs or a ramp?

[halcyon mango]

ye

[fresh wing]

yeah

ty

[jaunty latch]

no you just do them for your own enjoyment

why delete it

[halcyon mango]

r5c2, is the 2 scouts and mother in extract room

can we just run past and extract

[sterile citrus]

ya, its a fast extract.

[halcyon mango]

real?

[sterile citrus]

Ya even if you alert them its a super quick extract. Justa few secs

[halcyon mango]

I want a 2nd opinion just in case. this one's been too long and we don't want to throw it

[halcyon mango]

group decided to stealth it, but oh well, we still got it done after things went south

[sterile citrus]

Nice Gz.

[vague bridge]

2nd opinion: yes

oops too late

[craggy pier]

What's your favourite load out and why

[ocean spindle]

ummm lately ive been rockin doubletap cause its really fun, along with sometimes hel revo sometimes smg; in specials machineguns cause i love em but sometimes hel rifle or heavy assault rifle... tool i always have mines cause i am the mine guy

and of course the bat

[vague bridge]

double revo is really fun

hel rifle + sawed off is a fun anti charger

hel shotgun+ high cal is the last loadout i ran for r5e1 and its kind of a blast

[craggy pier]

HEL shotgun is so weird

[silver fable]

hel revo + pump shotgun, though sway bug makes it bittersweet

[craggy pier]

It feels just wrong

Idk what it is

What's a sway bug

[vague bridge]

stupidly powerful?

[craggy pier]

No like clunky

[vague bridge]

hm

[craggy pier]

Very limited range

[vague bridge]

never felt clunky to me

[silver fable]

shotguns (all shotguns) don't fire straight during the swap animation

only shotguns suffer from it

[vague bridge]

well yeah you have to know your limitations

and work based around that

[silver fable]

sway bug was introduced in r7

r6 pump shotgun was perfect

[craggy pier]

How does HEL shotgun kill

1 shot headshot? 2 shot bodyshot? Does it penetrate?

[vale coyote]

i like the shelling pistol and combat shotgun and for melee.. tough between hammer and knife i like my speed but hammer time is a good time and my equipment would be scanner or sentry

[silver fable]

while there is still a place in my heart for pump shotty, I have trust issues with it now

[ocean spindle]

yeah all HEL weapons do pen

[craggy pier]

All?

[ocean spindle]

usually two shots enemy is down

all

[vague bridge]

it kills with 2 shots i believe

[ocean spindle]

hel autop too

hel gun

[vague bridge]

plus penetration

[ocean spindle]

hel rifle

[ocean spindle]

bio is based i like it a lot

[craggy pier]

Wasn't there like a hel gun that didn't

[ocean spindle]

no

[craggy pier]

I swear there was one

[vague bridge]

peak performance is when the entire crowd gets to you and you can just burn through them

[silver fable]

all, "hel" always means pen in gtfo

[silver fable]

wtf? hel gun has pen 4

[vale coyote]

thx

[craggy pier]

No not the hel gun

I mean a gun with hel in the name

I thought there was one

[vague bridge]

no

[silver fable]

the hel weapons are autopp revo shotty gun rifle, all pen

[ocean spindle]

nah they all do pen

[craggy pier]

huh

[vague bridge]

hel rifle is a little buggy with pen if thats what you're thinking

[ocean spindle]

scattergun did have pen but it was nerfed so it didnt, but thats not a hel weapon technically

[icy cave]

sadly have to admit fn is right

[craggy pier]

I'll try Hel shotgun again i guess

[ocean spindle]

hel shotties so nice, i love it a lot, its fun as hell

[silver fable]

my understanding of this situation, is that scattergun had a pen stat of 2 set, but pen on shotguns didn't work, so it didn't actually pen

[craggy pier]

What makes it so good

[vague bridge]

high damage + decent ammo + pen

[silver fable]

since then they apparently went to the effort of making pen work on hel shotty

[vague bridge]

automatic

[ocean spindle]

i think it was just a nerf, i think it did worked cause ive seen people talkin about it a lot but had to be removed so they could like tone it down

[vague bridge]

sounds very nice too

[ocean spindle]

nice sounds

[vale coyote]

i did not know hel basically meant overpen

[ocean spindle]

yeah

[silver fable]

people talked about it because people meme before they know what they're talking about

[vale coyote]

i might need to restate my liked weaponry

[vague bridge]

iir its Hydro Electrothermal Light gas

[ocean spindle]

hybrid electrothermal light gas

[vague bridge]

close enough

its also real

[ocean spindle]

i remember i had a discussion cause someone on lore was sayin one hel weapon wasnt a hybrid weapon, even when it was named hel

[latent obsidian]

Carbine, Choke mod, Bio, Sledge. Because carbine is great all round, choke gives me a reliable way to take down big targets while not being awful during an alarm, I like having bio info and sledge is just the best

[craggy pier]

Hey i also run carbine

[ocean spindle]

i only ran carbine in my r3a3 runs

[craggy pier]

What would you say is the best loadout for alarms

[ocean spindle]

depends on the type of alarm, but i guess just a class III normal...

[latent obsidian]

Depends a lot

[ocean spindle]

theres too many

[silver fable]

regarding the breakpoints, practically you're not 1tapping strikers with hel shotty (this would be OP), and you need to be in close to 2tap, but otherwise you have the same damage in a mag as combat shotty, huge amounts of damage per refill, you nuke packed hordes, and you melt bigs while stagger-locking them

[vale coyote]

guns guns more guns maybe an explosive or 2 and more guns

[silver fable]

hel shotty is a special slotted in main

for better or worse

[ocean spindle]

u could use combat shottie or a machinegun, or a hel shottie and a heavy assault rifle or just

depends a lot

[latent obsidian]

Changes a lot depending on sight lines, if its a surge, how many players you are

[craggy pier]

Rephrasing that

What loadout can output the most damage during an alarm

Without penetration shenanigans

jazz music stops

[silver fable]

damage might not be what you want in an alarm with regular striker/shooter waves and the occasional big

[ocean spindle]

scattergun maybe, but doubt is that good on an alarm

[vale coyote]

long room or enclosed space

[latent obsidian]

Thats still kinda a weird question

[ocean spindle]

yeah

i mean dont like sweat these things

most guns do well enough on alarms

it just kinda comes down to what ur best with, and ur taste on guns

i could use hel revo all i want but i am not good with it

[silver fable]

if you want to clean the most wave, and still have something that'll melt bigs, and you don't think you'll get much pen, maybe the answer is veruta

[vale coyote]

and i could use guns all i want im suprisingly better meleeing

[silver fable]

or combat shotgun if you don't mind giving up range

[craggy pier]

Which one is veruta

[ocean spindle]

machinegun

fast one

[latent obsidian]

I quite like pump shotgun for just killing a lot of the wave coming in

[ocean spindle]

i like sometimes heavy assault rifle, i like that fast reload

[silver fable]

the machineguns are the only guns we remember the manufacturer names for, because there are two of them

[ocean spindle]

we?

[silver fable]

ya, including you

[neon gust]

yes "we" BITCH

you in it too

without your consent

[ocean spindle]

:[

my omneco guns beg to differ

[neon gust]

MANUFACTURER ALERT

[ocean spindle]

yes >:c

[craggy pier]

I just have no idea how to build my loadouts

[neon gust]

compensate for you weaknesses

[vale coyote]

um whatever guns u like using and a tool that helps u with shortcommmings

[craggy pier]

Usually I pick a precise or general purpose primary and a panic secondary

[neon gust]

or range

[latent obsidian]

Main pick whatever you want, secondary try and balance with your team for wave clear/burst damage

[neon gust]

or your niche

or your role in the team\

[ocean spindle]

my role is bein glowstick guy

[vale coyote]

my role IS THE TEAM

[latent obsidian]

my role is joker

[vale coyote]

aka solo need to learn stuffs still

[neon gust]

damn another solo player

cant wait for you to then mix up actual game balancing with solo play

everyone goes trough that!

[vale coyote]

hey i legit just started gotta test everything out before bringing other into death

[craggy pier]

That's what i was doing too

Then i enjoyed the slow pace and it kinda just became fun

[neon gust]

your next sentence its gonna be "hel revo sucks"

[latent obsidian]

whats gonna happen when 4 solo players all squad up

[ocean spindle]

thats what i was doin too
then i did played with people

:]

[vale coyote]

well i havent tried hel revo yet so idk yet

[craggy pier]

Immediate and painful Failure because none of them learned to work together

[vale coyote]

i can only take 2 guns each time i try this

[neon gust]

they all gonna pretend to either kite or be confuse since theyre not playing with 3 bots

[silver fable]

pick a main you enjoy (other than the shotgun mains, those are morally specials) and stick with it, mains are mostly interchangeable
pick at least one special from each of these groups, think of them as roughly corresponding to your combat role in the team
waveclear: either machine gun, hel gun, revolver, heavy assault rifle, combat shotgun
ranged damage: choke shotty, sniper
waveclear and up-close damage: pump shotty
other specials are worth learning, but this will give you a good base

[ocean spindle]

remeber to try em all out a couple times :3

[latent obsidian]

solo (with bots 🤖 💀 )

[vale coyote]

unless its absolutly gorgeous

so between the sniper and shotgun sentries do they do the same dmg just different range and fire rate?

[ocean spindle]

no, shottie sentry does much less dmg than a sniper sentry [still decent dmg im not sayin its useless]
but yeh they do differ a lot on speed and range

[vale coyote]

so less enough it can still rival the sniper sentry or enough that sniper is better overalll?

[latent obsidian]

short answer: burst sentry

[vale coyote]

explain

[craggy pier]

Shotgun apparently melts really hard if you use a biotracker but chugs tool refill and sniper is for big boys and also benefits from the bio

[ocean spindle]

sniper is pretty slow for smol corridors and corners

and it is a lot of dmg for small enemies

shottie is more made for waves of smol enemies

[craggy pier]

It's the only one that kills them quickly by itself

[ocean spindle]

it doesnt too much since it was buffed

i mean the metlin thing

[vale coyote]

ok yeah cause sheer numbers is whats stoping me so far

[latent obsidian]

Shotgun sentry will shit out damage like its going out of fashion if you put it in the right spot, but it will eat all of your tool refill quickly
Sniper is "okay" on long sightlines, especially with bio synergy
Burst sentry is just so much harder to get wrong. You sit it down it kills stuff 👌

[craggy pier]

And autosentry is

[ocean spindle]

sometimes shottie n sniper can still b better than a burst th

[vale coyote]

auto sentry now needs an explaination like that XD

[ocean spindle]

depends on the situation

[craggy pier]

160 iq prisoners

[ocean spindle]

auto sentry is a stagger sentry, not a dmg sentry

[latent obsidian]

Auto sentry is if the sleepers have a tickling kink

[ocean spindle]

thats basically all u need to know about it

[vale coyote]

16 iq prizoner

[ocean spindle]

is ok in some situations but it is very niche

[craggy pier]

No because you need to be a genius to have it be useful

Burst sentry is 16 iq

[vale coyote]

i like sentry on box so it ghoes on box

[ocean spindle]

i just like to use it cause is funny

[ocean spindle]

startin to think like a pro

[vale coyote]

it faced the wrong door twice

[craggy pier]

Neat

[silver fable]

shotgun sentry is still inherently janky due to the sentry aim AI targeting heads, last I checked, so I'd rather just avoid it
sniper sentry is undertuned right now, but I'm still getting good work out of it when the enemy mix skews towards chargers/bigs, and I mostly play duos so every tool slot matters extra

[ocean spindle]

its good on chokepoints n stuff still

it was always cool on ladders

[vale coyote]

cause see when im swarmed at this keycard alarm door i die but the big guys dont really do much since i run a shotgun most times

[latent obsidian]

R1A1 second alarm?

[ocean spindle]

well um ur runnin with bots right

[vale coyote]

yes

[ocean spindle]

are u using their tools too?

[vale coyote]

uh bots.....no....

[latent obsidian]

lol...

[fierce walrus]

rip

[latent obsidian]

That alarm is something I struggle with after a thousand hours

Get some bots in there

[vale coyote]

not specifically trying to pass it just figure out where i stand alone

and so far its great until more than 6 dudes within 10 meters

[latent obsidian]

soloing alarms is a whole other ball game

I'd not recommend doing it atm

[ocean spindle]

yeah thats, gonna take u too much time to do

[vale coyote]

imean sentry outside the first door kinda just does everything there for me

maybe an extra dude or 2 gets in but thats not a panic like door 2

[latent obsidian]

if you are shutting the door on the 2nd alarm when it breaks every enemy is gonna run in all at once and its gonna be hard to shoot them all

[vale coyote]

and that is what im trying to improve is handling panics

[latent obsidian]

The idea is to kill the wave before it stacks up too much

Unless you bring foam and find a mine

which is quite plausible

[vale coyote]

i find alot of mines

[latent obsidian]

if you wanted an easier way to beat it just keep the door foamed til the scans are all done

[vale coyote]

legit i just opened my 3rd on this run and theres still half the rooms to expplore

also on bio scanner what ?? "where" (i guess) the really tiny red dots that didnt move

[latent obsidian]

its a bug, they are just normal enemies

[vale coyote]

huh

[latent obsidian]

The annoying thing is the bug can occur on a scout signature and it won't be pingable, but it often unbugs itself in their case

You can see the small red dot moving though

kinda rare

[vale coyote]

yeah it left when i entered the room

was just really confused about it

imma try keeping this door open i got 4 mines layed and a cfoam incase but the shotgun sentry is on the left of the door aiming down the shelf and imma see what happens

so far my highest was 6 nodes completed lets see if i can hit 8 or finish the door

[latent obsidian]

is the sentry outside or inside the door

[vale coyote]

inside

[latent obsidian]

its better to have it inside

cool cool

[vale coyote]

so from alarm door looking at the rushed door its in the left corner of the room oposite from me

[latent obsidian]

prioritise killing enemies over completing scans if you can see them

yep thats a good spot

as long as a scan doesn't drop in front of it

[vale coyote]

i still dont expect to pass cause i dont really like this smg but i love the machinegun

[ocean spindle]

:[
no one likes my smg sad

[vale coyote]

which smg there was like 4 or smoething

[latent obsidian]

theres only one called "SMG"

[vale coyote]

uh well idk but i believe im on the second one

so then the maybe not smg

it has a thermal sight

[latent obsidian]

PDW

[vale coyote]

ok

[ocean spindle]

oh

[vale coyote]

still kinda a smg just more complicated gun explaination

[latent obsidian]

This game seems to confuse people that know about guns

[ocean spindle]

i mean theres like 5 automatics we need to separate em

[latent obsidian]

I just see gun name and thats that

[ocean spindle]

yeh

[latent obsidian]

I don't know whats a carbine or an smg or whatever else

[vale coyote]

i know rifle smg assault riflt sniper dmr and shotgun

and pistol

[latent obsidian]

So if those are categories of gun I suppose that causes confusion when one gun has that name but there are others in the category 🤷

[vale coyote]

yup

anyways i meant the secons smg like gun

[ocean spindle]

pdw is a funky weapon to get used to, i didnt liked it at first but i learnt to love it

is nice

[vale coyote]

the thermal is nice

but damn im bad at controling it and reloading every 2(if) enemies

anyways immma start this sucker

[latent obsidian]

best of luck

[vale coyote]

wish me luck if ya want to

thx

reloading killed me

but i did get 7

[vale coyote]

so u meant the van auken smg

[ocean spindle]

yeh

[vale coyote]

its not to bad

[ocean spindle]

good enough of an answer for me

[vale coyote]

lol

[ocean spindle]

its worth notin i only rate guns cause of how fun they are lmao

[vale coyote]

imean theres functionality and fun in my rating

which is why i got so many people angry in mhw using negative ice res in iceborn

tho the pistol up top is still my fav for main weapons

[ocean spindle]

ah yes mhw, my hface when

sorry

[vale coyote]

ur good

[ocean spindle]

but well if i had to play by functionality i would, actually use the pdw way more ksmdkm

or the carbine

but i hate the carbine

[vale coyote]

i hate bursts in general

like ammo efficiency IF it shoots the exact number of bullets to kill ur target otherwise it just gaps ur fire rate and deals less than if it was full auto

which is why im skipping the carbine entirely

[latent obsidian]

😔

[vale coyote]

i know i wont like it

[ocean spindle]

i like burst funnily, they are accommodated to like have good ammo along side other nice features like range or reload speed [thank u burst rifle for existin mwah]

but the carbine just, the sound the design the feel AH i hate it

[latent obsidian]

I didn't like burst previously but carbine is so good it got me used to it

[vale coyote]

like i know this is a "me issue" but every time a burst stops firing to cycle bursts i absolutely hate it idk y but it aggrivates me immensly

imean if its that good ill test it but itll be negative on the fun scale

[latent obsidian]

if you aren't gonna enjoy it don't bother

there are other guns good enough to use

[vale coyote]

theres alot of guns

[latent obsidian]

hel revolver is the other top pick

[vale coyote]

my only issue with the revolver is (sorry gun enthusiests) clip size

[ocean spindle]

hel revo also u need to reload cancel a bit, and it takes practice

well and normal revo too but that one is faster

so u dont need to necessarily

[vale coyote]

wait revo meant revolver

[ocean spindle]

yeah

[vale coyote]

oooooh

[ocean spindle]

ok disntiction skdmk

[vale coyote]

i was looking for a hel revo gun but didnt know revo meant revolver XD

[ocean spindle]

yeah skmdkm
oki so
Hel revo is a main weapon, the bataldo
normal revo, or special revo, is a secondary weapon, which is the mastaba

just in case i say it cause

i see people gettin em mixed up ksdmk

[vale coyote]

fair enough

idk how well a sniper will work on this map sooo ill save that for later