#gtfo-related-questions

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neon gust
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pretty much let the sentry deal with the flyers

viscid wolf
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back in the day I would scattergun the flyers

neon gust
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while you killa ll 20 incoming strikers at you

viscid wolf
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you cant do that anymore ;;

orchid merlin
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idk how me and my team did it the first time

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cause we cleared it with no issues

neon gust
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Fog part its standar gtfo practices so that obviously depends on you

orchid merlin
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but yesterday we struggled so hard with it

neon gust
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class 6 just clear and push

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you can have sentry facing the stairs

viscid wolf
neon gust
viscid wolf
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hmmm

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good point

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run the big fast

neon gust
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what you want, a whole essay for a class 6

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shits simple

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the tile your boils down to the stairs on the side

viscid wolf
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@orchid merlin you should know btw that enemies will spawn on the top floor of the tile for the class 6

orchid merlin
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as a solo i can imagine doing laps around the map to get the scans done but as a team of 4 things get a bit cramped

orchid merlin
viscid wolf
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so there's no point mining adjacent doors

neon gust
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who said solo's?

viscid wolf
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or putting sentries facing the sector doors

neon gust
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are you soloing?

orchid merlin
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just talking about methods to clearing

neon gust
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kiting its a kill issue if you do that on teams

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just setup properly

orchid merlin
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understood

neon gust
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hell you can just use cfoam on the floor, it buys so much time

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cfoam the floor where you see them coming from

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guarantee 5 froze enemies

topaz willow
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im looking to try C2 with my buddies and I was wondering if there was an optimal tool setup to take or can you go crazy?

flat rock
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Do you have an idea as to what you were considering bringing?

topaz willow
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usually its like 2 sentries, cfoam and mine

flat rock
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Ok

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If this is your first time going in I would personally suggest bio, a sentry, foam and mine to have bases covered

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Sentry for doing the layers is less helpful as the level progresses, but has it's uses still

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My group uses sentries still, but I know a lot of groups in LFG don't take one from what I've read

shrewd dirge
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2 sentrys can trivialize the S class.

flat rock
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The S class is a joke to begin with tbh

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You've got 7 miles of open space to see them from and you can basically force them to only come one way

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Just line them up and blast it's pretty simple

midnight gazelle
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Honestly, typically S1's are designed to be jokes lmao

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The two S1's in R4E1 were manageable

floral pecan
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Main you can almost do whatever and be ok. Bring at least 1 scatter + 1 sniper for an easier time

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Just try to avoid infection

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Secondary needs a whole tutorial itself HEFSKiaraNekoPeek

midnight gazelle
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nahhh lol

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just wing it like i did

floral pecan
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Good luck winging c2 secondary as average players

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If you have a competent team who doesn't know how to do it, you'd probably manage still

midnight gazelle
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I winged it as a person that plays as solo lfg player

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but I wish i had a dedicated team

finite plinth
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i had a team with 3 har, a team with 2 people with only 20 hrs and a bot, a team that are basically clueless in lfg bro, all beaten with or under an hour

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just snipe better :^

mystic loom
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Nope, you can’t carry them, that mean the problem is u

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YOU HAD SKILL ISSUE

ruby wasp
floral pecan
floral pecan
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with a long time to kite that is

floral pecan
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i do admit it is still amazing that worked, if you were back defending, these guys pulled their weight for 20hrs

neon gust
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The only thing that people need to worry its just not to panic

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and rush scans

floral pecan
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even having only 1 guy defending means you have 3 to push a few rooms normally with a timer, that you can shoot + mine if you want to. On paper it isn't difficult, but that pressure can get to some

ruby wasp
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people panicking make any level hard at this point

floral pecan
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true, but i haven't seen a level where panic has caused everyone to die downhill, even in D3 i had places where people panicked and died, but 1 guy killed the wave and everyone was picked up

ruby wasp
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Basically any level with an error alarm or infinite waves after picking an item would become a mess

floral pecan
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a bit of a snowball effect, if you get my point

ruby wasp
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Yeah

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You are not as burdened as before thanks to checkpoints though

floral pecan
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assuming they work, yea

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thought i like to get my clears without these

ruby wasp
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Levels aren't as long as before as well

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That's also helpful

neon gust
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8 hour matches

ruby wasp
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😳

floral pecan
ruby wasp
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Where did you spend 8h

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D4 ? 😳

neon gust
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checkpoint made it easier to complete levels but people just spend absurd amount of hour

ruby wasp
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More hour but less stress

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A blessing in disguise ig

midnight gazelle
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Lmao, the max i could reasonably see is 4 hours before this rundown

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How do people play a level for 8 hours?

neon gust
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theres literally a duo that was like duo of like 8 hours

floral pecan
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newbies

ruby wasp
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I've seen people spending 6h on C1's last alarm

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seriously

midnight gazelle
neon gust
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^ that too

midnight gazelle
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how

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Wtf

floral pecan
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if you are not as experienced, even shooting normal sleepers is difficult

midnight gazelle
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I mean

ruby wasp
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3 autosentries but 0 tools

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xd

floral pecan
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my R1 and R2 took a long ish time as well to clear

midnight gazelle
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I finished R3 (my first rundown) in abt a month

neon gust
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they just put them at the big door

ruby wasp
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they were new players

midnight gazelle
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Each level taking about 2 hours

neon gust
ruby wasp
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oh 🅱️oi my first try of R4C2 PE

neon gust
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im gonna keep pulling your leg

midnight gazelle
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Except d1, i think d1 took like 3h

ruby wasp
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4h iirc ?

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lol

floral pecan
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my D1 in R1 was the most painfull thing i have done after trying to solo a warden door with only chargers

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in GTFO that is.

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or D2? whatever the level where the first shadows show is

midnight gazelle
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I completed it prenerf on the overload

ruby wasp
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What was the nerf on it ?

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I remember a change on surges in general

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but nothing about overload

midnight gazelle
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Fixed the shitty spawning during the alarm and added a mother at the end

ruby wasp
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lol

neon gust
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r4c2 only had a mother in zone 12

midnight gazelle
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Oh wait lmao

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I was thinking of r5c2 i think

neon gust
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and they change surges in general by swapiing big chargers with hybrids

midnight gazelle
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The arena scale overload alarm

ruby wasp
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oh R5C2 prenerf you mean ?

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With the tanks spawning indefinitely at the end of it prenerf ?

midnight gazelle
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I mean i never had more than like 4 tanks because we had giants spawn cap lol

ruby wasp
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A friend of mine tried to do it "legit"

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by killing everything that appeared

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he ended up with 9 tanks killed at the end of the scan

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lol

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the last ones were killed with melee

opal moat
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just wondering can you kill father (tank) with one hit with sniper?

noble sierra
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No, it takes 7.

honest geyser
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so i have a question about rundown 6, when you pick up the "Data Cubes" and you get teleported and are given the objective survive will everyone have to be alive in order to leave the dimension?

minor fractal
jaunty bear
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just one

honest geyser
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perfect thank you!

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is it a hidden countdown or a kill count sort of thing?

jaunty bear
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latter

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former*

honest geyser
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okey that makes a lot of sense thank you! @jaunty bear and @minor fractal

orchid merlin
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i finally did it

viscid wolf
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yaaaaay!

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deeper you go

orchid merlin
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running a c-foam launcher over a mine deployer ended up being a lot more beneficial at least for my squad

stoic bane
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Does anyone think the devs will eventually add a wave defense mode

topaz anvil
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Have you done reactors before?

stoic bane
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ya

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i guess that counts

topaz anvil
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Then there is your answer

stoic bane
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i was thinking of a more dedicated mode that is always available

topaz anvil
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But why

stoic bane
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dont know

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random ass idea i got while extracting

topaz anvil
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How does it contribute to the story and or difficulty

stoic bane
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not at all

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difficulty just make it hard af

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have the first wave easy then the rest a "fuck you "

topaz anvil
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Ya but if you cant complete it then you'll have a 0% completion rate

stoic bane
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its a seperate mode like aside from the main rundown

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its an endless defense to see how long you can last

topaz anvil
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Where are we getting our resources

stoic bane
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at the end of each round a crane similar to the one that drops you off but smaller brings a small crate of reasources

topaz anvil
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And what would the level look like

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How would it function

vale hornet
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WTF did I come into

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I don't think this nick guy is a game dev why you asking all these questions

topaz anvil
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Im challenging his idea

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To see what it would be like

vale hornet
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bro this ain't debate club

rigid sinew
stoic bane
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i was thinking maybe like multi level (two levels) they could come in through vents or something

topaz anvil
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I'd rather downvote an idea I disagree with because of something specific rather than just "i dont like water so underwater combat bad, time to downvote"

stoic bane
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maybe like some waves the lower level will fill with infectious gas

rigid sinew
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they could come in through vents
....

topaz anvil
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Wave defense has merit, since we have reactors already, so saying no to wave defense would be like saying reactors suck balls but they dont

topaz anvil
vale hornet
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So then whats the problem

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he said it was a random idea

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he didn't say he wrote a essay on it

topaz anvil
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Its a random idea but its still worth thinking about

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Even if it doesnt make it to fruition

minor fractal
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Aren't WRDN protocols literally wave defense?

topaz anvil
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And im curious about it

stoic bane
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yeah i like reactors and the end of level extractions so i was like why not have a little game mode

topaz anvil
vale hornet
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I think WRDN protocols are just death

topaz anvil
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As opposed to wave defense

rigid sinew
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technically you have reactors, R5B4/R6C3-like levels
if you wanted a working literal endless mode you would have to make it last more than 30 minutes
otherwise you just have another WRDN protocol level

stoic bane
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endless

topaz anvil
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Ah yeah the other question i was gonna ask is what incentive do people have to push past 1h long endless

rigid sinew
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there is a also the problem of random generated levels
which in reality are a thing, but I think it's better that we have them modified carefully by the devs

vale hornet
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I was think exclusive cosmetics could work

stoic bane
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maybe if you last say 30 min you get a muted artifact

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and progressivley get more

vale hornet
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all that for a single artifact

stoic bane
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seperate artifacts

rigid sinew
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ah yes

stoic bane
rigid sinew
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more gimmicks

vale hornet
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boosters and cosmetics don't seem like a bad Idea

rigid sinew
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just unlock me a rocket launcher already

stoic bane
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i dont want to have a load of cosmetics though

rigid sinew
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give me something worth wasting 2 hours of endless into

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would still be cool doe ngl

stoic bane
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it wouldnt be mandatory just somethiong to spend time and practice in

vale hornet
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in general what's your opinions on weapon skins like different looks for the melee weapons specifically

stoic bane
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no

vale hornet
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that could be a potential reward

stoic bane
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maybe aslong as they follow the theme of the game dark pallete and what not

vale hornet
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maybe they take parts from the enemies or they are a scraped together version

stoic bane
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maybe attach like an arm as the spears shaft i dunno

vale hornet
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I think a spear that uses one of the spikes from the spike enemies could be interesting

minor fractal
vale hornet
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I forget what they are called

rigid sinew
stoic bane
stoic bane
vale hornet
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I think that they could be a thing to show how far you got in a rundown or if it got added the wave defence

rigid sinew
stoic bane
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interesting

topaz anvil
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Now I'm not in full support of a true endless mode, but my modification to it would be:
A reactor style level where you push forward through zones to find terminals while fending off waves. Each new terminal command unlocks the next zone similar to a reactor, but failure to reach the terminal in time progresses the difficulty of the wave defense while also forcing you to redo the current test. Resources are found in progress

vale hornet
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I don't think they would be good if they were tradable because then they could just get farmed and become less interesting

topaz anvil
stoic bane
topaz anvil
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Its a level designed to coordinate teams into two groups. 1 for defence, and 1 for advancing and clearing

stoic bane
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i think we were both thinking the same thing but worded it differently

topaz anvil
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Nah

rigid sinew
stoic bane
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well actually its 17 head

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maybe even 18]

rigid sinew
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48head

topaz anvil
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I'm thinking about a proper completeable level, where the challenge lies in speed and coordination. You are thinking about an endless level where prep and stamina is the selling point

rigid sinew
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basically kiting playground lol

topaz anvil
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Lol

rigid sinew
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where is that longest kite sticker when you need it 😔

stoic bane
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i guess kitting could happen yeah

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i just wanted it as something to do to practice and have fun with the gun play which ngl is pretty damn good

topaz anvil
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Just redo d1 reactor waves

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Dont progress the reactor

topaz anvil
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There is a terminal in a zone behind tank room

craggy pier
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ahh ok ty ty

drifting jetty
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Any tips to beating 6x charger scouts in D2?

stoic breach
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Have someone who isn't bad at cfoaming scouts

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if they use more than 6, they're not good

finite plinth
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get two terms

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leave

rigid sinew
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Anyone knows where is terminal in zone 174 in C3?

viscid wolf
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why do you need a terminal

desert falcon
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when you enter the zone turn right, it should be around the corner to your left then (either on the catwalk or below)

rigid sinew
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having some trouble finding it

viscid wolf
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bulkhead key?

finite plinth
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it's almost always in c

viscid wolf
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it has to be

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I don't think it can be anywhere else

topaz anvil
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b or a 😳

finite plinth
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😳

tacit zealot
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Can be in B

soft thicket
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Next up C2 or D1? suggestions ?

rigid sinew
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hmm

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I would say C2

soft thicket
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Thanks guess its "easier" ?

dreamy pecan
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do u get all the prisoner apparel if u finish all the primary, main, secondary, and overload sectors?

rigid sinew
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not all

bright crater
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i just completed D1 for the 1st time with an lfg of 4, i got the expedition completed screen and everything but didnt get a cosmetic nor does the rundown say I completed D1. Any ideas why its like this?

craggy pier
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I'm standing here in B1 rn

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next to two fucking behemoth of monsters, how do i deal with them

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nevermind

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big gun kill big men

floral acorn
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giants are cute

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inject an iix when behind one, charge melee full, go for back of head before iix wears off, ded

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(dont do it too mamy times, infection from syringe)

craggy pier
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damn

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theres only so much that NPCs can do

fierce sinew
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if I finished an expedition and do it again for the limited helmet, will i still get it? or do i have to do it on an unfinished expedition?

stark spade
modest vault
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any tips on solo'ing B2

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Secondary

bright haven
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Alright so, im blind or stupid - cant find how you get bots to use their gadgets - can someone please tell me.

modest vault
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Hold Q

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Then 1

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:D

bright haven
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Thanks Vivi

floral pecan
native dawn
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i did the artifact 7 first run but i dont know whats the objetive now... can anyone tell me what i do next and why?

floral acorn
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a1 done? go b1 next. ( :) )

grizzled widget
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What does prisonerefficiency do?

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I know you get rewards for overload and secondary

floral acorn
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.t sectors

uneven gulchBOT
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Sectors are a mechanic which adds optional objectives to the game, ranging from altering the game state to adding other objectives. The following sectors are available:
main Primary
secondary Secondary
overload Overload (Third Sector)
prisonerefficiency Prisoner efficiency (All three Sectors in the same run)

Multiple sectors can be completed at the same time, however you always need to do the Primary/Main sector.

grizzled widget
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Yeah, but what is the point of pe

floral pecan
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.t vanity items

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damn

grizzled widget
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Overload and Secondary give cosmetics

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Pe doesn't

steel valley
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but your rundown screen looks ugly

midnight gazelle
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It is likely you will need a certain amount of PE clears to unlock E tier if there is an extention

civic mist
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Does anyone know if Desynchronisation affects everyone even if only one person has a bad connection to the host? Or does Desynchronisation for all 3 mean that it must be the host with a bad connection?

noble sierra
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R6 doesn't require secondary/overload to unlock C/D tier, so I doubt that's the case.

grizzled widget
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I'm just kinda surprised something like pe doesn't offer cosmetics

midnight gazelle
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i mean

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

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PE is for the tryhards :)

grizzled widget
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Not really

steel valley
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didn't r4/r5e1 need 1 pe to unlock

grizzled widget
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It's about all the difficulty r6 has

midnight gazelle
steel valley
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uhh idk off the top of my head

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could be

midnight gazelle
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me neither tbh

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R4 E1 required 1 pe

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Can't find a screenshot for R5 :(

noble sierra
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I mean if the devs mandates pe completion for r6e1, it's likely they mandates overload/secondary completion for tier c/d.

steel valley
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d3pe is pretty much the same as d3 ov anyways

midnight gazelle
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Then what would be the unlock requirement for E1?

steel valley
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so it shouldn't be hard to get it

midnight gazelle
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Because in order to unlock D1, you had to finish C1

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In order to unlock D2-4, you had to finish D1

steel valley
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if they want to make a real e1, then need to put some reqs on it lol

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otherwise people will go in the vertical order and get railed

midnight gazelle
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Like I said lmao

grizzled widget
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Forget e1, what about F1?

midnight gazelle
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They are probably gonna require some PEs

weary mesa
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I highly doubt that

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Game in more casual now

green sail
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An E1 should require a PE as did all previous rundowns

midnight gazelle
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Game isn't more casual imo

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Tho, D tier is really the only "challenging" levels this rundown

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Not D1

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D2-4

green sail
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C3 PE is just…

grizzled widget
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C2 and d1 is pretty annoying

midnight gazelle
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C3 PE is easy

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The extreme part sucks ass

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but its easy too

grizzled widget
green sail
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Id have to disagree about D1

steel valley
green sail
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I ran c3 pe with 3 bots

grizzled widget
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Reactor just depends on your loadouts

midnight gazelle
green sail
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The alarms were forgiving, the “surprise” was only annoying because of the meatballs. And then bam

grizzled widget
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R1C1 is probably the most fun I've ever had in this game. With R6C3 being a close second

midnight gazelle
steel valley
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r1c1??

grizzled widget
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Yeah

steel valley
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you just shot down a hallway for half an hour lol

green sail
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Nah just like, bam, its over and kinda uneventful

midnight gazelle
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I said D1 was easy lmao

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I said that D2-4 is "challenging" imo

grizzled widget
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You like what you like. I like the combat.

steel valley
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fair enough ig

midnight gazelle
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I miss kiting

steel valley
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i enjoyed r1c2/d1 a lot more

grizzled widget
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I have far more fun run and gun in this game with smg and shotty than sneaking and stuff

green sail
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Bots can kite really well

grizzled widget
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So amazing at dodging shooters

midnight gazelle
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Bots are immune to infection

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Just watching the bot sneak into the fog

grizzled widget
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I just miss my Maul MaulmenStamp

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I really hope they add back the OG 4 melee weapons as skins

green sail
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Have a bot place a senty gun, then have him recall it and he will run nonstop, not shoot anything, then come back

midnight gazelle
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Maul mafia

green sail
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Gavel Gang

grizzled widget
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The mailmen of the complex

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That's why we got a stamp

midnight gazelle
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Maul users are the experts :))

grizzled widget
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The maul, gavel, sledge, and for the life of me I can not remember the 4th

midnight gazelle
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maller

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maller

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MALLER

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SDKfASDJKFMSJDMfg

green sail
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They USED to be, now we got these “other” melee

grizzled widget
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Maller

midnight gazelle
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MALLET

grizzled widget
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Mail men ftw

midnight gazelle
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mail men

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maul

grizzled widget
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Maul men

midnight gazelle
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maul men

green sail
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Maller moment

grizzled widget
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Though

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It depends

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If they introduce them as early access play EXCLUSIVE skins

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Or just skins for all

green sail
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Early access would be nice, get something better than subway uniform colours

grizzled widget
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Ehh, I really like the orange

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Could do with a little less yellow though

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Maybe black and orange instead of yellow

craggy pier
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so

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how does apparel work?

steel valley
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.t vanity rewards

uneven gulchBOT
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You get one reward for completing each of the challenges in the 'Prisoner Apparel Requisition' list shown below. Rewards are selected from various pools. Additional reward chances will be available with future content drops (e.g., New Rundown releases)

https://imgur.com/a/eond8uF

Imgur
craggy pier
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how many are there......

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and I already knew that

green sail
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One for each sector clear

craggy pier
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was more wondering if there was any determinism to it

steel valley
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you mean like loot pools?

craggy pier
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if there were specific pieces tied to specific challenges more so

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like completing a PE gives you something special

steel valley
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according to doc yes, all loot comes from different pools

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there are a few predetermined drops tho

craggy pier
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I got le funny robot leg from completing a secondary yesterday

steel valley
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completing all of a line will always give a specific shader

grizzled widget
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Which one? Left behind, or sharp teeth?

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Sharp teeth is lit. Left behind is.. ehh. Pretty bad

craggy pier
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left behind

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its funny

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peg leg joe

grizzled widget
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Left behind is like an actual prosthetic. Sharp teeth is literally just a hunk of scrap metal

craggy pier
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I know

grizzled widget
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Maybe you'll get lucky if you still have cosmetic chances left

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You never know

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It took me until like my last 3 chances to finally get a backpack

craggy pier
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what I really want is the pants that dont look like shorts over tights

grizzled widget
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And get a cosmetic in every slot

grizzled widget
craggy pier
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yes

grizzled widget
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Sharp teeth and the one sharp teeth is modeled after are really the only good "pants"

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I'm pretty sure left behind is modeled after the default short shorts and nikes

craggy pier
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yes

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it is

grizzled widget
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How many chances you got left?

plain phoenix
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i have a question, i just started playing.

grizzled widget
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Shoot @plain phoenix

plain phoenix
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are their difficulties in each stage?

craggy pier
grizzled widget
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Not really

craggy pier
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like 5

steel valley
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.t sectors

uneven gulchBOT
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Sectors are a mechanic which adds optional objectives to the game, ranging from altering the game state to adding other objectives. The following sectors are available:
main Primary
secondary Secondary
overload Overload (Third Sector)
prisonerefficiency Prisoner efficiency (All three Sectors in the same run)

Multiple sectors can be completed at the same time, however you always need to do the Primary/Main sector.

grizzled widget
#

It's just different chambers

#

Its mostly universal difficulty

steel valley
#

i would argue that c3 main is significantly easier than c3pe lol

grizzled widget
#

Well that's because you have less stuff to work with in c3

#

Your skipping objectives and rooms full of supplies in favor of holding out

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C3 really isn't like a normal level

craggy pier
#

of fucking course c3 main is easier

#

PE is bullshit, always

grizzled widget
#

Well,

#

Main you still have to kill 2 tanks, right?

#

At 20 and 10 minutes?

steel valley
#

no lol

#

ov adds the tanks

plain phoenix
#

can teamates die,i don't mean get incapped.

grizzled widget
#

At the end of a level if someone is dead it says deceased, but that's non-canonical

#

But no, not at all in gameplay

#

Revives are always avaliable

plain phoenix
#

How do you die?

grizzled widget
#

By being killed?

finite plinth
#

c3 main is harder than c3pe because of the boredom from waiting for the 20 min and 14 min security doors to open

midnight gazelle
hard moss
#

Hello, Im new to this game and i wanna ask you how can i create my own lobby ?

shrewd dirge
hard moss
shrewd dirge
#

i try

forest ingot
#

how do i get the limited gtfo helmet?

shrewd dirge
forest ingot
#

thx

forest ingot
shrewd dirge
#

s'wat i did

forest ingot
#

thx

trail swan
#

I have a question, how do you tell a bot to pick up a non mission item?

floral acorn
trail swan
#

that is.. unfortunate

floral acorn
#

they do pickups and lately even swap packs and items but no way to affect what they get exacrly

#

glowsticks u can tell em to throw away to make space, then point at an open box and walk 4+ meters from it

mystic loom
#

atleast you dont need to let them throw 12 glow stick and get a fog repeller

floral acorn
#

had a cfgren on a shelf not locker.. spent a few mins trying to get them to take it, wouldnt..

lilac fulcrum
solid spear
#

@lilac fulcrum when will we be able to just take a 2 use ammo pack and another 2 use ammo pack and just put it in a 4 use ammo pack?

lilac fulcrum
solid spear
#

Ill take that as a never will happen thing

lilac fulcrum
#

I'm not the game designer for GTFO so I can't answer that.

viscid wolf
#

when will we be able to stack ammo packs to an 18 use ammo pack

ruby wasp
#

Ask yourself why we can't bring a dawg with us to carry cells & turbines

#

Or go in teams of 10

#

😳

midnight gazelle
#

Teams of 30

viscid wolf
#

gtfo battle royale 😳

floral acorn
midnight gazelle
#

@floral acorn sometimes lockers bug and you cant take consumables out

#

It’s only happened to me a few times

viscid wolf
#

D4 has one locker where that can happen

lilac fulcrum
#

weird

floral acorn
#

yea had that d4, i couldve gotten that gren but already had one, wanted another

#

took 5-6 "tours" close to it w/ bots in tow, one came close but turned away

signal plaza
#

i cant seem to make the bots work with me well. i couldnt get them to sync up to kill or anything.

floral acorn
#

they dont.. they only salvage stealth gone wrong

neon gust
#

you can stealth with them pretty nicely when it comes to giant

#

but your the clearer pretty much

#

only there to help you kill if you left something behind

#

exelent duo partners when in combat tho

lofty pasture
#

hi guys quick question! can you complete d1 without using the reactor?

viscid wolf
#

yes

lofty pasture
#

leaving the lights off i mean

viscid wolf
#

well yes and no

#

there's an alternate D1 route called hotbox

#

it requires you to do the class 6 in the darkness and infectious fog

#

without turning on the reactor you cannot access the air filtration

#

so if you want to make the fog normal then you have to go through the reactor

lofty pasture
#

ok but can we access the warden door normally?

signal plaza
viscid wolf
#

yes

#

you will have to do it in infectious fog and darkness though

lofty pasture
#

yeah yeah i know

neon gust
#

just make sure you have all of them nearby

signal plaza
#

note* i am brand new, literally only one rundown that i actually left cuz i couldnt deal with the bots

#

ahhhh i getcha

neon gust
#

heres a whole list of things that can help you understand them better

signal plaza
#

oh sick

#

thanks

rigid sinew
viscid wolf
#

no idea

neon gust
#

cuz the room its full of fog?

lofty pasture
#

can we get a checkpoint near there?

lofty pasture
viscid wolf
#

yeah

#

it's really hard

hasty terrace
#

Hotbox is way harder than regular D1. Its a speedrun strat. If you struggle with regular D1 I wouldn't recommend it.

#

@lofty pasture

stoic breach
#

Hotbox is only really tough when you don't get the gist of it, and most people who want to try it shouldn't just be jumping down immediately into it

#

It's better to just clear out the first room, then have biotracker say more than ping more.

floral acorn
#

3rd 4th circles they "funnel" somewhat, but havent and wont try doing it hot :)

stoic breach
#

Nothing worse than doing hotbox% and having them go one way and just full-on spawning on the other side.

weary mesa
mystic crater
#

cuz weed fog

distant gate
#

any1 got list for d2 ext pass guesses?

midnight gazelle
#

@distant gate google a list of nouns

#

It'll be one of them

distant gate
#

lmao

lilac fulcrum
#

The cheatcode is the word code, or gtfo

distant gate
#

🧐

midnight gazelle
#

wait actually

#

lmao

urban panther
#

whats the best primary weapon? assuming i hit all my shots

stoic breach
#

DMR

urban panther
#

and whys that? like does it one shot or have high ammo capacity?

shrewd dirge
#

dmr

stoic breach
#

idk hybrids. I just use secondary for those.

urban panther
#

ah ok, ill give it a try. thank you 🙂

shrewd dirge
#

headshot leaves strikers less than 4ish hp, so basically anything will kill it

#

and small damage boosters turn it into 1shot headshot on smalls

winged lantern
#

which guns can reliably one shot scouts?

#

other than sniper ofc

topaz anvil
#

Where

#

In the head?

winged lantern
#

ye

topaz anvil
#

Revolver, both shotguns, the scattergun. I don't remember what other specials exist

winged lantern
#

hel gun?

topaz anvil
#

idk

#

Hel gun stinky

winged lantern
#

ok thanks

topaz anvil
#

Only non stinky special is machinegun

mossy aurora
shrewd dirge
#

hel gun*

mortal condor
#

does anyone have a reliable/working strat for the big tall room in c1, like the long ass deactivate security scan part

craggy pier
#

have you ever heard of a guy called professor scaler?

#

he makes youtube guides

mortal condor
#

no i have not ill look him up rn

#

thank you

split rock
mystic crater
#

What are the smol red dots in the bio tracker

rigid sinew
#

bug

#

just normal sleepers

echo matrix
#

is anyone here?

#

i have a question

viscid wolf
#

hai

#

@echo matrix I can help

echo matrix
#

so is there me and a friend are doing C2 right now and we can't seem to do only the main objective without doing the secondary

#

is there a way we can only do the main objective and be done?

viscid wolf
#

what do you mean

#

have you found the bulkhead key?

echo matrix
#

yes my friend has the bulk head key rn

viscid wolf
#

when you put it into the bulkhead hub it should give you both options

echo matrix
#

yeah it did but last time we picked the main objective but the extraction said we needed the secondary item

viscid wolf
#

did you use a checkpoint

echo matrix
#

yes

viscid wolf
#

yeah it breaks sometime

#

have you used a checkpoint so far in this run

echo matrix
#

yes we have used the checkpoint twice

#

do we need to do a full restart?

viscid wolf
#

it can break when using the checkpoint

#

if you've gotten this far just go through to the end

#

hopefully it won't bug you out

#

theres only like 15% of the level left anyways

echo matrix
#

so we basically have to hope the checkpoint doesn't break the objective basically?

viscid wolf
#

yup

#

checkpoints in this game are not great

#

they bug out often

echo matrix
#

everytime we die?

viscid wolf
#

yes

echo matrix
#

ighty so hope for the best

viscid wolf
#

well it breaks for some levels and not for others

#

good luck!

#

and if it bugs out make sure you leave the lobby and start a new one

echo matrix
#

ight

#

thanks again

viscid wolf
#

npnp

rustic echo
#

QQ: is there any way to pick which prisoner you play as? or is it entirely random based on room join order?

rigid sinew
trail swan
#

why do bots not get into scan points with you?

#

I have had this issue a few times where the bots will just sorta stand and stare at you while you are in a point that needs everyone to scan

rigid sinew
#

probably stuck

trail swan
#

they walk around

#

and follow me elsewhere

#

but they will absolutely not step into the scan

trail swan
#

Is there any fix to this?

#

it kinda makes bots a detriment

long ember
#

You can remove them then put them back in so they spawn on you

#

Not the best option during combat but is ONE option

trail swan
#

that removes all the stuff they put down, as well as messing up their ammo

neon gust
#

restart your lobby or kick them out do team scan then let them rejoin again

trail swan
#

thats

#

bad

neon gust
#

i dont know the cause but last time ive had that incident we used the follow me command

#

as client and they kidna just broke out of the sudden

shrewd dirge
#

Remind me why they brought out the bots with 1.0 rather than EA

trail swan
#

They plan to fix them, right?

warm yew
tropic holly
#

is anyone else having issues with the game being extremely dark? im having a hard time seeing anything tbh

wary linden
#

Depends on your monitor itself at that point. Since there are no settings for brightness

buoyant arrow
#

you can use nvidia game filter to change brightness/saturation n shit if that helps

pale topaz
#

You can't get all vanity items ingame right?

topaz anvil
#

correct

#

at least not right npw

#

now

pale topaz
#

Okay thnx!

tiny tundra
#

Are shadow scouts taller than normal scouts? The way they look when you shine a flashlight on them is a little offputting

minor fractal
#

Safest way to melee them is from behind, makes them easier to hit when they send feelers out.

tiny tundra
#

Interesting, thanks

tacit zealot
floral pecan
tiny tundra
#

Hmm alright

solid spear
floral pecan
#

No, checked myself once

solid spear
#

Im pretty sure Giants are just a larger form of normal sleepers lol

distant ice
#

I mean technically that description fits giants

floral pecan
#

The model is different

distant ice
#

Different how

floral pecan
#

They didn't just grab a striker and resized him

solid spear
floral pecan
#

They made a new model for giant strikers

solid spear
#

Doesn't the wiki state that its just a larger sleeper?

#

Still looks the same to me my guy

distant ice
#

I don't see how you can claim it's not the same model

solid spear
distant ice
#

It is pretty much the same all around except for some colors

finite plinth
#

just jump

solid spear
#

Nah

distant ice
solid spear
floral pecan
#

If you grab the striker model, put it in blender, and try to resize it, i am pretty positive it looks different

solid spear
floral pecan
#

Look at the head alone

#

Maybe the body is the same

finite plinth
#

the shadow scout i meant

distant ice
#

Again, different how

#

Limb sizes could be adjusted separately if you mean proprtion mismatch

floral pecan
#

Not sure you know what i mean by "model"

solid spear
distant ice
#

The wiki isn't a reliable source of anything kekw

solid spear
#

Lmao

floral pecan
#

I'll say it in a different way.
If you look at a striker's head, and a big striker's head, is it the same design?

solid spear
#

Looks the same

distant ice
#

Yeah

floral pecan
#

... HEFSKiaraNekoPeek

solid spear
#

Both use the long range attacks

floral pecan
#

Am i the one blind. Brb

solid spear
#

Both got mouths

distant ice
#

Size and colouring and that's about it

floral pecan
#

It may be the colouring that put me off, i'd need to look in game to be sure

solid spear
#

Lol okay

latent obsidian
#

I feel like you two have different definitions for the "same" model. Obviously the giant striker isn't a literal stretched striker model

floral pecan
latent obsidian
#

as for the invis scout I'm not sure. I was surprised when a melee from the front hit something that wasn't the head yesterday, after he had stood up already

#

It would work on a normal scout, so maybe his hitbox is different. I'd never considered it would be a striker model

floral pecan
#

For sure it does not have the body of a normal scout, i also missed her at times where a normal scout would've died

#

Just wondering if it is a bigger- small striker or a big striker, and at this point if these 2 have the same model to begin with

#

I'd be amazed if they do

finite plinth
#

you should always jump for both normal or shadow scouts so it shouldn't matter too much

mossy aurora
#

shadow giants have a different model right?

#

sometimes they usain bolt at y ou

floral pecan
#

Shadows as well? I tried killing them as a normal scout but tend to miss them

finite plinth
#

shadow giants have what two stances?

floral pecan
#

Correct

finite plinth
#

one hybrid one standing

floral pecan
#

If i recall correctly one doesn't even melee or something stupid like that

finite plinth
#

i have a skill deficiency so i just shoot body

floral pecan
#

Not much worth on big strikers anyway, just 1.5x multi

#

Unless sniper, of course.

#

With the bad precision multi most guns have, that 1.5 becomes like a 20% dmg boost

ruby wasp
#

And both use their tongues

#

However since one of them acts like a hybrid, it can use melee as a hybrid as well

floral pecan
#

There was something finnicky about one of the 2 giant shadow strikers, can't recall what

ruby wasp
#

One that moves like a giant shooter maybe ?

floral pecan
#

No idea, it's a video i saw months ago and can't find it again

#

This guy was listing each enemy and going into detail about their stats and all that

#

Lots of writing involved

floral acorn
#

khepri did a great shadow guide vid

ruby wasp
#

i think i see which one you're talking about

#

the shadow giant part was in R4C3 ex right ?

floral acorn
#

incl the "hybridy" bigboi.. that slips under high mines, fist-melees but also licks

ruby wasp
#

fastest tongue release iirc

floral acorn
#

was our undefeated bane in r5c2 duo

ruby wasp
#

Along with walking like crazy when far away

#

lol

#

Though this one is from alpha

#

yup

#

1.1s for big shadow in shooter position to throw its tongue

#

lmao

floral pecan
#

Yea that one

#

Oh there it is, no melee attack animation

#

I'd assume they still melee thought

steel valley
#

they basically have a death aura because of the lack of animation

#

which is why they're so scary

#

relative to the hybrid posture ones

fierce oracle
#

Big shadows either walk around as Hybrids, Big Shooters, or Big chargers

#

They have the same AI for movement and positioning as what ever enemy they are running around as

#

They attack faster than normal too

distant ice
#

Not that when they do have animations the damage matches up at all

#

If you're reacting to sound or animations you'll get hit anyway

#

You need to know by feeling when they'll pull that shit

silent leaf
#

what are rundown sectors

latent obsidian
uneven gulchBOT
# silent leaf what are rundown sectors

Sectors are a mechanic which adds optional objectives to the game, ranging from altering the game state to adding other objectives. The following sectors are available:
main Primary
secondary Secondary
overload Overload (Third Sector)
prisonerefficiency Prisoner efficiency (All three Sectors in the same run)

Multiple sectors can be completed at the same time, however you always need to do the Primary/Main sector.

silent leaf
#

thanks

karmic frigate
#

Are GTFO mods a thing

stoic breach
#

Yes, but we cannot talk about them here because it's against the rules

karmic frigate
#

Oh okay

stoic breach
#

You can find the modding community subreddit in HC-other?

#

idr

karmic frigate
#

No no i don’t really care about modding

stark spade
#

There is a link to their server in #rules 12

karmic frigate
#

Was just curious if i could change sounds

#

Just to goof around

#

Like change their kill sounds with melee to like the tf2 pan sound

stoic breach
#

I don't think there's things like that, but you probably find like Garbab, BECKY, or MAC and mod it yourself.

floral pecan
#

^

#

If you ever care to find said modding group, hop onto #rules , last rule

mystic crater
#

which is harder, b2 or c1

mystic loom
#

C1

mystic crater
#

ty

stoic breach
#

C1 but B2 becomes harder if you don't know how to do terminals for secondary.

viscid wolf
#

C1 by far

odd sandal
# mystic crater which is harder, b2 or c1

Going on with that question, if I may, as it connects with what I wanted to know:
Does that means that the difficulty is tied to the letter, while moving on with numbers retains the same average difficulty while proposing different missions?

latent obsidian
#

Yep, the letters are the "tier" of difficulty. The numbers are usually not tied to difficulty. (though on this rundown all the X1 levels are a bit easier)

odd sandal
latent obsidian
#

I've had that problem in the past, meant we couldn't clear some of the older rundowns. The lfg groups on this server are quite good if you don't mind playing with strangers

odd sandal
#

I have to admit that playing with total strangers makes me anxious.

blissful sun
#

Its fine we dont bite

#

i promise

odd sandal
#

I do!
Mostly, I am quite self-conscious about making mistakes that can cause a loss and then being "judged" for it.
As idiotic as it may sound.

blissful sun
#

Thats where checkpoints come in

tiny tundra
#

At least in my experience, most people you match with won't hold mistakes against you, especially if you match in #lfg-beginners

blissful sun
#

Trust me the only time i been screamed at for fucking up was at the end of a long ass game in the previous rundowns and that was from my own friends

odd sandal
#

That is all quite reassuring to hear!

odd sandal
blissful sun
#

Everyone can

odd sandal
#

Obviously I jest.
But I am glad to see people ready to be reassuring here. It is heartwarming.

blissful sun
#

people really dont mind in the lower levels aswell

#

+checkpoints

odd sandal
#

(My fingers and my keyboard do not match today it seems)

#

I would not want to flood the question section with my chatting. So we can reconvene in another one, or feel free to send me a direct message if you wish to have a conversation!
I do not bite neither ||unless I am asked to||

blissful sun
#

If you need people to play with use lfg or hmu. people are happy to teach here

odd sandal
#

"HMU"? May I ask what it is?

blissful sun
#

Hit me up

odd sandal
#

Forgive me, I have a hard time with this sort of acronyms.

viscid wolf
#

humu humu

blissful sun
#

all good

stoic breach
#

humu humu

topaz anvil
stoic breach
#

OmO OmO

topaz anvil
#

OUO OUO

stoic breach
#

٩(◕‿◕｡)۶ ٩(◕‿◕｡)۶

topaz anvil
#

(╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻

craggy pier
#

What's that prefix LG Stand for?

topaz anvil
#

Where

craggy pier
#

In the team finding chat

rigid sinew
topaz anvil
#

"looking for group"

stoic breach
craggy pier
#

mkay

topaz anvil
#

(╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻

stoic breach
#

-●●●-ｃ(・・ )

#

┬─┬ノ(ಠ_ಠノ)

tidal mesa
#

We're having a wee bit of trouble dealing with Tanks in C3. How should we approach them? Are mines viable? Scattergun is good and all, but we may be using it wrong.

rigid sinew
#

sniper

#

have 2 snipers shoot the tank from 2 different opposite directions

tidal mesa
#

Doesn't the sniper only do 100 damage tops due to the fact that the tumors can take up too 100 something damage?

rigid sinew
#

tbh I'm not even sure, but it has worked for me before

#

pretty safe strat

tidal mesa
#

Fair enough. Is the sniper useful later on too? The scattergun has served us well so far and sadly we have 2 teammates who like picking shotguns, so we're forced to have 1 HEL gun and 1 sniper or Scattergun.

tribal coyote
#

Yo, is back damage still a thing

#

or nah

tidal mesa
#

It is

rigid sinew
#

well, consider that doing overload means that when you end the level you would have killed at least 3 tanks

rigid sinew
tribal coyote
#

gotchas thx

tidal mesa
#

Back damage is calculated from your player's position

#

So technically it works with sentries too, but not really.

rigid sinew
#

nope, sentries had it removed completely (afaik)

tidal mesa
#

oh really?

#

Fair enough

rigid sinew
#

yeah, some patch notes above

#

(not here, I mean in the patch notes channel)

tidal mesa
#

So should we go in with 2 snipers, a HEL gun and whatever else?

tribal coyote
#

a video mentioned back damage wasn't on melee weapons anymore or something? So I just wanted to double check

tidal mesa
#

Ye I gotcha

rigid sinew
tribal coyote
#

gootocha

rigid sinew
tidal mesa
#

What did you personally use in C3

rigid sinew
#

one time we carried 2 snipers, scatter, any special
and one of each type of tool

#

the scatter is pretty much optional and doesn't really help a lot with the tank unless you get a pretty perfect shot on it

#

more useful against giants and really stacked waves imo
(last one to a much lesser extent)

tidal mesa
#

The 2 snipers can take care of the big guys anyway though

#

And also have more ammo, so I suppose 2 snipers and any other two specials?

rigid sinew
#

yeah..I guess

neon gust
#

but he needs to be proactive at sniping

tidal mesa
#

So, not miss

neon gust
#

2 its just too overkill and if you cannot deal with waves very well its gonna be handicap

neon gust
#

Sniper dude can solo the giatn waves

#

if he has to reload then you guys can bait the attacks and go back to cover

tidal mesa
#

Fair enough, sounds good.

#

The tank is going to be dealt with using focus fire rather than abusing sniper/scattergun?

neon gust
#

I would recommend, 1 sniper, 1 helgun, 1 pump, 1 heavy ar or machinegun ||wichever you like the most||

neon gust
#

scattergun its a noobtrap

tidal mesa
#

Ah fair enough.

neon gust
#

Sniper man needs to use his sniper proactively both during giant waves and tanks

tidal mesa
#

Useful for mothers though correct?

neon gust
#

theres no moms on c3

#

only tanks

#

but yeah its quite useful

tidal mesa
#

I know that, generally speaking

neon gust
#

its 3 shots before reloads

covert apex
neon gust
#

pump shotgun would be better

covert apex
#

Can solo a mom, frozen or not

neon gust
#

but if you have 1 sniper 1 pump she melts

latent obsidian
#

Honestly a couple of shotguns or chokemod are fine for the tanks too

neon gust
#

like

tidal mesa
#

I'm pretty familiar with a sniper.

latent obsidian
#

Sniper and scatter are better for the tank but you don't need to have them if you prefer something more versatile

hazy verge
#

It's been a while since I last played GTFO. I just ran C1 with bioscanner but it now only tags a single enemy? Didn't it use to tag all the alerted enemies? Is this new or is this just my game bugging out?

neon gust
hazy verge
#

Does ads-ing only tag 1?

viscid wolf
#

yes

hazy verge
#

That sounds like a bug. Thanks for the info.

covert apex
#

Ask d0cr3d

#

“It’s a feature that will receive tweaking”

weary mesa
#

Becomes convert a single enemy striker into an ally until it dies

#

pushes a giant striker into you

viscid wolf
#

it'll probably have some relevance in the future

#

bu for now don't worry about it

tribal coyote
#

So

#

for the boosters

#

do you just not keep them if you hit exit?

#

are they basically useless then because you lose them all the time?

viscid wolf
#

what

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you always keep boosters until you use them

tribal coyote
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I might just have not gotten some then, nvm then

viscid wolf
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unless you're on max boosters then you should be keeping them

tribal coyote
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oh yea, kept the ones I got this time. Idk what I thought I got or didn't get then

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all good

viscid wolf
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👍

tribal coyote
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So two more questions, what is artifact heat and does secondary just mean the mission has a secondary objective?

viscid wolf
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artifact heat means how much value you get from picking up a booster

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at 100% you gain 0.15 artifact value per artifact

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at 1.00 you will gain a booster of that kind when the run ends

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picking up boosters will lower the levels artifact heat and raise it for every other level

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meaning you cant grind a single level

tribal coyote
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ah I see

weary mesa
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You also can't exit when collecting them

covert apex
weary mesa
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You have to die and return to lobby or beat the level

viscid wolf
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and yes secondary is indeed a secondary objective

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there is a third objective called "overload" which is also a harder objective

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the fourth one ish is called prisoner efficiency (PE) which means you do main, extreme, overload in one run

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so only two levels, C3 and D3 have it in this rundown

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if you see something like "B2 extreme" that just means B2 secondary

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it used to be called extreme so most early access players will still call it that

urban panther
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What’s the best melee weapon in gtfo?

covert apex
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KNIFE chad

minor fractal
urban panther
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Ah 2 different answers I see

rigid sinew
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bat

urban panther
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3?!

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Bro

rigid sinew
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come on, someone say spear

covert apex
minor fractal
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Hammer and bat have the highest skill caps, knife and spear are worthless crutches.

urban panther
covert apex
rigid sinew
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bat is better knife
hammer is better spear

minor fractal
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^

urban panther
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I’ve been using the knife lately cuz of its quick charge but I haven’t been able to try the other melees yet

rigid sinew
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knife still better than spear doe

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spear bad

covert apex
rigid sinew
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depends on playstyle and skill I guess

covert apex
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Bat is great for staggering a single enemy

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Hammer is great for all purposes listed above

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Spear is shit

minor fractal
covert apex
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Kiting?

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Doesn’t consume stamina, fastest charge up of the bunch, can take out clusters in seconds, can kill scouts

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Only downside are the giants

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But like i stated before, you either shoot or stealth past them

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If you rely on your hammer rather than your guns then, yes the braindead hammer is great 🙂

minor fractal
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The charge time and multi-kills are pretty minor benefits when the vast majority of the delay in stealth is waiting for things to stop glowing and syncing, not charging your melee.

covert apex
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Knife doesn’t take that into accountability

minor fractal
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If you know what you're doing on hammer, you can also "take out clusters in seconds."

covert apex
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You can just run through glowing enemies and get rid of them before they even finish their glowing animation

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With the knife

urban panther
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This has evolved into an interesting conversation

minor fractal
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That just sounds like forced aggro, which isn't unique to knife and not hard to get away with on any melee.

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If you alert a large enough amount of enemies, I don't think knife will be very good at recovering either.

covert apex
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The running + swinging your hammer literally makes you grasp for air in seconds

minor fractal
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Okay?

covert apex
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I’m assuming you’re also adding jumping into your movement which makes you even more vulnerable

minor fractal
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My point is still that knife only really takes away functionality of your melee, it doesn't actually help that much.

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No, I never jump personally.

urban panther
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I’ve found a lot of articles pointing towards the hammer rather than any other melee

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At this point idk

covert apex
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Because a vast majority of the community is still very keen on using the hammer and treating it like they would without stamina previously

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It’s still a viable choice

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But the benefits the knife has just outshines the other melees imo

weary mesa
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Until it gets nerfed

covert apex
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The only thing knife can’t do what the hammer can is take down giants

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But even then, no need to confront 80% of giants this rundown

minor fractal
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Knife is cool if you've never gotten a multi-kill in your life, and that's about it.

covert apex
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Do you actually use your melee in active combat instead of shooting?

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If so, then that explains your stand towards the melee

minor fractal
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Occasionally, depends on the situation.

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And I've already stated, stealth is more important than kiting to me.

covert apex
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Which is why knife is an even more viable choice for stealthing???

minor fractal
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?

covert apex
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It is specifically designed to fast stealth

minor fractal
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Yes, and it doesn't do anything that special above the hammer.

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It just swings fast, and that's not very useful for someone who knows their shit on hammer.

urban panther
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The main downside of the knife is the damage output and staggering ability and range, other than that I’d say it’s good

covert apex
vital pasture
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Hammer is a good, solid choice as I believe it can still one tap headshot scouts, and deals good damage.

covert apex
vital pasture
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Knife requires Occiput.

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The back of the head.

minor fractal
covert apex
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I guess we both have very different playstyles which is ok. pepeok

vital pasture
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I use knife, actually.

covert apex
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I like to play at a faster pace than usual

vital pasture
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I prefer the quick swing speed and charge rate, so

covert apex
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Which is why I think the knife suits me better than the hammer

minor fractal
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I would be curious if you actually clear that much faster on knife, and whether or not you opt to clear safely or not.

vital pasture
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sucks with titans, as its hard to reach occiput

urban panther
covert apex
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Comparing it to hammer

vital pasture
minor fractal
urban panther
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Oh dang

covert apex
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It do be 4 am right now, i’ll do once I remember

urban panther
vital pasture
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i did which is the worse part.

urban panther
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;-;

vital pasture
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well whats worse is my inability to type

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