#gtfo-related-questions

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loud granite
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right click with a melee weapon

rigid sinew
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M2

viscid wolf
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right click

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if you're charging right click then instantly melee button

loud granite
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or C (default button) for quick shove even if u have a weapon out

viscid wolf
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which is C default but the cool people use V

gilded field
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So its like l4d2

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Wow never knew you could shove

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How do we slide also

viscid wolf
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I have never used it

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slide got nerfed

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it's no longer faster than running

gilded field
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Oh

viscid wolf
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just preserves some stamina

gilded field
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Still useful af for c3

viscid wolf
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just crouch uncrouch every second or so

rigid sinew
gilded field
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How much stamina does shoving take

viscid wolf
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none

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iirc

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you wont be using it anyways

rigid sinew
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it does

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not much i think

loud granite
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nah shove uses alot of stamina

viscid wolf
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fun fact, you can shove scouts

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you should try it :)

loud granite
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and high stamina also lowers ur shove speed

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low i should say

rigid sinew
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attack 2 times to air and then start shoving right after
you will get a quick shoving bug that eats your stamina lol

viscid wolf
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I dont think I've ever used shove unironically

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except to bully that one sleeper at the end of a wave

loud granite
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its rly good

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when u cant dodge or shoot a sleeper, a shove will save health

viscid wolf
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bonk

loud granite
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used to shove and onetap to the back of head but thats gone now

noble cape
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Is there a weapons tier list?

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Or pros and cons list

viscid wolf
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for main there's not really a bad one, it's up to preference

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for secondary there scattergun in S-

loud granite
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no cus no gun is better than everything else, main is a choice of preference and special can depend on the situation but mostly preference anyway

viscid wolf
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everything else is viable

noble cape
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Is scattergun class range aoe?

rigid sinew
viscid wolf
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it's super close range shotgun

noble cape
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*close

viscid wolf
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it's like a shotgun but with 3x the damage 3x the bloom

rigid sinew
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though you could argue that hel weapons and scattergun are the best ones

viscid wolf
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we should go make a tier list right now

noble cape
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Ah I see

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How about like the uhh

rigid sinew
viscid wolf
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no

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mozambique is garbage tier

rigid sinew
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yes

noble cape
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Pros and cons of all the melee ones

loud granite
viscid wolf
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for looking like a mozam

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oh wow there's already one on tier maker

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okay brb

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actually we should make this together

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okay machine pistol

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thoughts

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I say C

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it's a budget auto pistol

loud granite
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everyone typing melee weapons essays

noble sierra
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machine pistol: Fastest reload speed, top 3 dmg efficiency, very good in close range combat against hordes.

loud granite
noble cape
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XD

desert falcon
# noble cape Pros and cons of all the melee ones

Hammer- Allrounder weapon
Knife- Fast charge, short range, great for fast stealth kills
Bat- High stagger, fast charge can break padlocks in one uncharged hit
Spear- High precision dmg, long range, cant charge while sprinting

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done ๐Ÿ™‚

viscid wolf
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I recommend hammer just cause it's middle ground

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spear got nerfed out of existence

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bat is not that great

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knife is good for earlier levels but lacks with bigger enemies

loud granite
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knife my beloved

noble sierra
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Gavel: bad, maul: bad, mallet: bad. Sledge hammer: good, approved by devs.

noble cape
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๐Ÿ‘

loud granite
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gavel is sss tier and u cant change my mind

noble cape
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Thanks everyone

rigid sinew
# noble cape Pros and cons of all the melee ones

Hammer

  • Medium attack speed
  • Medium charge rate
  • High damage
  • Can charge while running
    +- Medium stagger rate
  • Short range

Knoife

  • Fast attack speed
  • Fast charge rate
  • Weak point damage bonus
  • Can charge while running
  • Low damage
  • Short range
  • Low stagger rate

Spear

  • High damage
  • Long range
  • Slow attack speed
  • Slow charge rate
  • Can't charge while running
    (can't remember correctly, but I think it had weak point dmg bonus)

Bonk stick

  • Highest stagger rate
  • Fast attack speed
  • Fast charge rate
  • Low damage
  • Short range
    (I'm not exactly sure if you can charge while running)
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have text

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many

viscid wolf
# noble cape Is there a weapons tier list?

my personal opinion
S: hel-revo hel-gun heavy-AR scattergun
A: pistol assault-rifle bullpup sniper machine-gun
B: smg dmr(?) carbine shotgun chokemod
C: revolver sawed-off
๐Ÿšฎ : machine-pistol burst-rifle

dmr really depends on how good your aim is

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subject to change

hexed totem
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why hammer medium charge rate and spear slow charge rate even though spear is charge faster? (by 0.1 sec)

loud granite
rigid sinew
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just go hammer and call it a day

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don't need anything else in mah life

noble cape
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Sounds good

viscid wolf
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I'm surprised no one argued with my tier list

loud granite
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i disagree with every part of it

viscid wolf
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input would be good

loud granite
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sawed off is my fav

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nuff said

rigid sinew
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sawed off = SSSnake

viscid wolf
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it's in the garbage tier because it looks like a mozam

loud granite
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good thing i like mozam too-

viscid wolf
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get him outta here

noble sierra
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Spear is fine, very easy to kill bigs & scouts, also way easier to melee a flyer than other melee weapons.

rigid sinew
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to be fair, hammer is as easy on everything except scouts

loud granite
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again, also a choice of prefence. but just dont being a knife to certain levels

viscid wolf
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why are you melee'ing flyers Sweating

loud granite
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poke the meatballs

viscid wolf
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there are many things that are the play and that is not one of them

finite plinth
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bat is best melee for c3

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one shot locks :^

noble sierra
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You don't have to, like you don't have to melee any sleepers in the game.

loud granite
finite plinth
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bad

viscid wolf
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don't bring a spear to a gunfight

finite plinth
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dmr is easily s

rigid sinew
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i want to use my fist

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tiem to punch le scout

viscid wolf
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dmr depends too much on aim

finite plinth
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even with bodyshots, it's still pretty good

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bro just bodyshot

viscid wolf
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also the new recoil it's even more clunky

finite plinth
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3 shot strikers

viscid wolf
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you're better off bringing an auto or hel revo if you're body shoting

loud granite
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dmr would be my fav gun if not for that terrible crosshair on the sight

viscid wolf
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the crosshair is pretty terrible

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I want my acog

rigid sinew
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dmr just succs your ammo packs

finite plinth
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crosshair opacity 0 gang

viscid wolf
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when do we get to customize crosshair colors

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I need pink reticles

rigid sinew
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bad

viscid wolf
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what pink reticles are so good

rigid sinew
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don't

loud granite
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ill always be happy with more pink on my screen

rigid sinew
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pink is bad

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unless it is good pink

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but usually pink is bad

viscid wolf
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neon pink

loud granite
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a bright blinding pink

viscid wolf
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its distinguishable from enemies

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so makes it easier to shoot em

rigid sinew
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still bad pink

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unless good pink

viscid wolf
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you underestimate the pink

viscid wolf
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is there anywhere with a spreadsheet for gun data

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such as rpm, max ammo the like

fierce oracle
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Wiki has max ammo and rpm

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I think some guns are missing rpm though and some of the weapons rpm might not have been updated yet

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Iโ€™ll get around to it eventually

viscid wolf
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got it thanks

floral pecan
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Or that @viscid wolf

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Not sure which one is more attendable as i didn't put any data myself

viscid wolf
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unfortunately it doesn't have rpm though

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which is the main one I'm looking for

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not sure how to test rpm can anyone tell me

gilded field
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With dmr if ur not using a main dmg increase boost what are you even doing with ur life

viscid wolf
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truuuu

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well didn't matter for me since I missed all my shots anyways

gilded field
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Striker: โ€œnice headshot nerd here let me hit you once before I die from ur second shot you dumbass.โ€

topaz anvil
gilded field
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Btw we can shoot through the destroyed doors eight

topaz anvil
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Yes

gilded field
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*right

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The texture shows the bullet hitting the destroyed part of the door so I keep getting scared

topaz anvil
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Like fully destroyed or partially damaged

gilded field
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Fully destroyed

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Also what abt partially dmgd? Like in between the door plates

viscid wolf
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yes

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but it's pretty hard

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so don't do it

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you'll waste ammo most of the time

fierce oracle
loud granite
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maf

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riddle me this, how much foam to foam each enemy type

topaz anvil
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Thats a lot of calculations

loud granite
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ok, for the common enemies: small sleepers 2, scout 4, giant 8

fierce oracle
loud granite
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this giant i tested must be built different ig ChocolaConfused

fierce oracle
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Shooting it too fast or in the same place can cause it to bug

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And not count some blobs

loud granite
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ah, so skill issue

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ic

fierce oracle
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They had 6 rundowns to fix cfoam

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Still goes through the map if you shoot it on the floor Suisei_NotLikeThis

viscid wolf
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holy shit they nerfed the hel revo to 2 enemy pierce?

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I thought it was to 3 or something

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that is quite the nerf

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does the piercing stat include the initial enemy or only the enemies after?

fierce oracle
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Iโ€™m fairly certain that it includes the initial enemy

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Not 100% sure though

floral pecan
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@viscid wolf check nerd stats

floral pecan
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Not 100% either doh, but never felt like 3

covert apex
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Yet It still had the treats of a special

floral pecan
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As far as primary go, i think HEL rev is the one who will overall put more sleepers down

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I mean without pen, the stats are still good

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There is 1 big thing about automatic weapons doh

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A lot of them stagger on headshots

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Making it like 30 possible staggers vs 8 of the hel revo (16 with pen)

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Only thing hel rev really sucks at are || mothers || for the || babies ||

ruby wasp
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Quite the opposite actually if you aim at the mouth

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The penetration helps dealing with them quite easily

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not as much as R4 HEL, but still good enough for most of them to be wiped out right after spawning

hushed sundial
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I think HEL revolver also one shots strikers with a headshot if you can get ~15% main dmg boost (assuming I'm mathematically applying the boost properly)

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If you can't reliably land mostly headshots though (and can't coordinate to line up enemies for pen), sawed off shotgun is pretty hard to beat efficiency wise.

floral pecan
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I'd not add boosters into this, but yes, DMR and hel rev become broken with boosters

carmine shoal
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Question - Do you only get cosmetic items from completing A1-D1?

floral pecan
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.t vanity rewards

uneven gulchBOT
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You get one reward for completing each of the challenges in the 'Prisoner Apparel Requisition' list shown below. Rewards are selected from various pools. Additional reward chances will be available with future content drops (e.g., New Rundown releases)

https://imgur.com/a/eond8uF

sage stump
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Are you able to choose which prisoner you play as? Since my buddies and I all have the same 2 it looks like

topaz anvil
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I think the base models are all different, but the gear you get is random so it's possible that you just rolled the same gear

sage stump
topaz anvil
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Other than that, the different characters are in order: Woods, Dauda, Hackett, Bishop

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So most of the time the host will be woods

indigo quiver
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did they change the early access skin? could have sworn it was like, lime green

viscid wolf
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yes

indigo quiver
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now it's like, piss colored

viscid wolf
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used to be PSON-EA

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now it's just early adopter

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with a new color

indigo quiver
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someone pissed all over it

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thats what it looks like to me

viscid wolf
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hot

fallow night
winged moss
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Why did you kill my soul with D1?

noble cape
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does discord overlay not work in gtfo?

ruby wasp
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it works but it can be annoying sometimes

worn creek
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so whats the plan with the level system are they stll going to change the rundowns every 4 or so months?

distant ice
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Yes but more often hopefully

azure patio
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Is Heavy Assault Rifle worth consideration or there are better multi-purpose weapons like HEL Gun or Auto Shotty

placid ember
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heavy assault rifle is probably one of the worst options to take imo

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the hel gun is amazing

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but i do get why some people dont like it, if youre looking for a multi puropse weapon without a charge up mechanic use any of the shotguns except the scatter

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all just my opinion of course

ruby wasp
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Since when does R6 have an auto shotgun ?

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Also HAR can be pretty nice to deal with crowds

azure patio
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Combat Shotgun is not rundown specific iirc

ruby wasp
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It is

azure patio
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nvm

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I live in the past

placid ember
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combat shotgun used to be really bad, they buffed it in one of the last rundowns but i still dont trust it

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join the hel cult

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hel revolver + hel gun loadout

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while youre at it, take a spear aswell

azure patio
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I am usually switching between Pistol/Revolver and the Sniper

weary mesa
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No chargers no need for hel

flat rock
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CS has always been top tier

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Fucker was cracked

ruby wasp
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That thing was way too strong against crowds

weary mesa
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what hel weaponry does to a mf

flat rock
placid ember
flat rock
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Take it for a run, see if you like it. If you do, sweet. If you don't, now you know.

ruby wasp
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Probably because it wasn't strong according to their standards ?

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Does it mean R4 & R5 combat shotguns are shit ?

placid ember
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I never said that

ruby wasp
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well "i still don't trust it"

flat rock
flat rock
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It literally got increased spread, and decreased range

placid ember
flat rock
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Combat Shotgun:

  • Slightly increased spread size
  • Slightly lowered effective range
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Directly from patch notes

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idk what you're looking at

placid ember
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Like r1 and r2

neon gust
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my man not mentioning r3

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that was peak shotgun

placid ember
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Haven't played during r3

covert apex
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accept the L bro

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CS was good

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and will always be good

neon gust
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It could use a buff next rundown if it appears

covert apex
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make it more spammy

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yummy wummy

placid ember
flat rock
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That's R5....

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and, if hel gun is best, why did it get buffed a fair bit in R5

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๐Ÿค”

weary mesa
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That shit was op in r3

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But we had no chargers in r3 : )

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except C1

flat rock
weary mesa
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gottem

covert apex
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africa

weary mesa
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Funneling also wasn't as known in r3 because haha funny 3 use cfoam nades

flat rock
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Don't remind me of the good ol days

covert apex
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take ur pills grandpa

craggy pier
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Hi, i have a question about r6d3

minor fractal
covert apex
river eagle
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hm yes?

craggy pier
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so like we the alarm and deactivated it but we're confused on why more invis still came even tho the music stopped.

minor fractal
craggy pier
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we killed the wave or maybe we were to far from them and they were just left overs?

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ahh

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okay

river eagle
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did you stay at the spawn location or moved away?

craggy pier
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we were in the small room next to father

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with the terminal in it

river eagle
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did you all move to it?

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or did people stay behind to deal with them

craggy pier
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all 3 of us stayed in the small room next to father and the 4th went to deactivated the alarm

river eagle
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yea its just leftover, shadows are slow af

craggy pier
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but we thought we killed the wave cause the music stopped and we waited to see if there was more and we thought we were clear and we were wrong

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okay just wanted to make sure! Thank you!

river eagle
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i think its because you are technically not in a fight with them

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they just go to you because its their ai and then you are in a fight

fallow night
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Good guns to pair with SMG?

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:)

minor fractal
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HAR or MG

ruby wasp
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Scattergun

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xd

hoary wedge
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Whats the current status of burst sentry?

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Better or worse compared to r5

glad oasis
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Better/Most preferred sentry

noble sierra
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Better for sure, R5 many prefer sniper over burst. Now it's probably the most popular pick (among sentries)

keen solar
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The best sentry until it got nerfed recently. Now itโ€™s in an alright state but it is still better than an auto sentry

elfin sparrow
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||In D2 - I was told it's possible to de-tox the fog with a terminal command - can anyone tell me which terminal to input the command?||

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or which zone it's in?

spark wolf
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its in extreme

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secondary

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layer renaming moment

elfin sparrow
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Ohh that explains so much

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thank you!

mossy aurora
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what % charge with the sledge do you need to stagger a striker?

minor fractal
mossy aurora
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damage stagger

minor fractal
mossy aurora
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a no charge sledge to the body will stagger?

minor fractal
mossy aurora
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ok thx

fierce oracle
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It staggers chargers too

mighty oriole
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New player here: I've only gotten through A1 and B1 and went straight to C1 from there, raising a question: Can you outrun aggro'd enemies assuming there is no alarm?

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e.g. After a distance and time, will monsters stop chasing you (assuming nothing can reaggro them after you escape)

shrewd dirge
mighty oriole
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Does LOS matter?

shrewd dirge
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monsters will either change aggro or continue chasing you to the death, never give up.

mighty oriole
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Got it

misty harbor
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is there a clear way to mark your escape

shrewd dirge
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aside from the red silhouette, no.

misty harbor
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my first day on b2 and we did everything right up until we got lost and went the wrong way

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i never saw one

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glitch?

shrewd dirge
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you need to be at least a couple rooms from it for it to show up

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there's generally an extract marker though for when you qualify i think.

misty harbor
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interesting

shrewd dirge
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sorry, its so second nature i can't think about what im looking for, i just go to it.

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i cant help you.

misty harbor
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well i was pretty lost on the way back

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i was assuming we went the right way (it felt like it)

shrewd dirge
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ill tell you this

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an extract will either be at the start of the mission

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or a forward extract in a specific zone.

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if it tells you nothing, assume its the start of the map.

misty harbor
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but can you see it in the map at least?

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i was able to remember half of the way back. and i wasnt quick enough to check the map

shrewd dirge
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err i guess? i dont really need to look for it or struggle for it.

misty harbor
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we were getting ambushed

shrewd dirge
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were you doing extreme?

misty harbor
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oh well you must have really good memory

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eh

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am not sure

shrewd dirge
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looks like a forward extract.

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looks to be near zone 67

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or is zone 67.

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@misty harbor

cursive stump
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How many total booster slots do you get for each type?

weary mesa
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20

cursive stump
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Cool, thanks

misty harbor
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and we got wrecked

shrewd dirge
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yeah, looks like you still had several zones to go

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and a blood door

misty harbor
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but the thing is that we finished it

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am 100% sure we did

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so we just needed to leave and extract

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it was for B2

shrewd dirge
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did you finish the main objective?

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you do the uplinks for extreme, then you scan hsu for high and then you leave @misty harbor

misty harbor
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yes we did both

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hsu

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and the secondary

shrewd dirge
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but yeah, after the hsu scan you have like 3 zones to go through at least i think.

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ending with a blood door.

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which is in the fog. i checked several streams, the sillouetee + marker diamond, should show up after hsu scan.

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its possible you just missed it.

misty harbor
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maybe

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am so confused now lol

noble cape
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Is there a way to clear the fog for D1?

ionic nexus
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No, but you can do the whole thing without getting infected

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You have to kinda go out of your way to get infection

ionic nexus
gilded field
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Just speedrun d1 facepalm

inland flame
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is there anyway to consistently dodge tentacle attacks?

minor fractal
loud granite
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cover can also protect u from them, which is a ton of help against giants who can snipe u

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if a giant glows and u cant strafe them, get behind smth

plain ember
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do checkpoints save if you "return to lobby"? is there anyway to restore from there or do we need to start over if we pick that option?

loud granite
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u gotta restart over

plain ember
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Okay, looks like I am keeping my game open till tomorrow, thanks

loud granite
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ChocolaConfused thats dedication, would love to see the completion time on that

plain ember
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Were on D1, with the warden door

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this level 6 alarm is butchering us

ionic nexus
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Do you have turrets?

plain ember
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2

ionic nexus
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Keep them on you and move them with the scans

plain ember
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we play slow, having to redo the level would be a pain

ionic nexus
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And just aim them from where sleepers come from

plain ember
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๐Ÿ‘ will try that next attempt

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auto or burst?

ionic nexus
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Also if your team is slow to a scan and sleepers are there just clear the current wave and run around

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Any turret will do

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Not sniper

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To slow

plain ember
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๐Ÿ‘ will try that next attempt

peak bane
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I wonder. Why do we get infection from fog even though the prisoners have masks?

gaunt fulcrum
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Dollar store mask

placid ember
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im just wondering, is gtfo fully playable with a controller?

loud granite
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yeah

placid ember
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cuz on the steam page it only shows partial controller support

loud granite
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i only played one level with a controller and dont remember much other than it being playable

steel valley
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terminals

placid ember
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ah

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yeah

lilac fulcrum
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it's partial controller support

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i don't think rumble motors work at all

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can't use the terminal

peak bane
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Green, why do we get infection despote having masks? ๐Ÿ˜

placid ember
peak bane
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Didnt one of em have a 2 filter mask? ๐Ÿ˜‚

lilac fulcrum
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moving and navigation work pretty well.
you'll probably have to remap a few things to fit your playstyle/controller

lilac fulcrum
peak bane
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Crap

placid ember
lilac fulcrum
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but boosters don't impact mask quality

placid ember
noble sierra
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Yeah, it boosts prisoner's lung directly.

peak bane
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In reality, boosters are drugs

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They crush these "candy" up and snort em lmao

placid ember
peak bane
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Yes

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Science

peak bane
placid ember
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had that once, its quite usefull

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XD

peak bane
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Mmmh crunch

floral pecan
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Had a guy with 120% or something

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No infection at all

loud granite
placid ember
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95% is enough to stay in fog for like 10 minutes and only getting up to like 5% infection

placid ember
peak bane
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King of the Fog

peak bane
placid ember
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i usually only get shitty boosters

peak bane
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Same

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HaCkInG SkIlL

placid ember
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im protecting my 2 aggressive booster with usefull effect like its my cat

peak bane
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I wish I had any but I rarely have people to play with. And randoms usually just rush and dont let me loot candies

loud granite
peak bane
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I rather have scan speed

loud granite
peak bane
#

Oof

loud granite
#

i was full on boosters and didn't have anywhere to use them chise_insanesmile

#

boosters overrated

#

glad we wiped a few times, damn aggressive boosters with 3 uses to burn

peak bane
#

I.mean some are but others are really helpful

placid ember
loud granite
#

.....forgot thats a thing u can do IfritSweat

hardy grotto
#

Whereโ€™s the fun in that

loud granite
#

booster steam trading

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....alongside apparel steam trading-

placid ember
#

free money for me

loud granite
#

cant wait for hackett's hood to go on steam for 200+$

hardy grotto
#

The god provision boosters from r5 tho

loud granite
#

still have a few saved troll_getout

hardy grotto
#

Same

finite plinth
#

selling r5 provision for 50 dollars

static dove
#

spoiler for D1:
||does anybody know how long the ending bossfight lasts for?||

finite plinth
#

until it's dead

static dove
#

i mean

#

how many thingies do you have to kill on it though

finite plinth
#

5 pimples

static dove
#

cool 5 pimples

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thanks

placid ember
#

imo

peak bane
static dove
#

really? does anyone have any advice on this fight because i've died like 5 times

finite plinth
#

sniper the pimple

static dove
#

we don't got a sniper unfortunately

#

we have a lot of uh, shotguns

#

a lotta shotguns

#

and a machine gun

strange skiff
#

Now you know when you'll come back to the level ๐Ÿ˜‰

finite plinth
#

gl team

loud granite
#

main guns tickle it, and only long range specials can actually damage it

static dove
#

yeah i'm like trying to rail this thing with a hel revolver and it does absolutely nothing

#

i spenjt like 10 minutes straight trying to kill a pimple

loud granite
#

hel revolver range has like around 10m of range so as u can imagine its alot less than just tickling it

strange skiff
#

DMR is the only main weapon that deal a bit of damage to the pimple

static dove
#

i'm gonna have one of my teammates leave and come back with a sniper lmao

#

it'll work hopefully

#

also both me and my buddies audio completely broke, is there a way to fix that without just leaving and relaunching?

loud granite
#

restarting the game is the only fix we know of

steel valley
#

audio test in settings sometimes works

#

but your long run might be too far gone

strange skiff
#

yeap, save state in every games are buggy as hell. Don't try to push it too much unfortunately

static dove
#

i'll try the audio test, but there's no way i'm restarting because i've been on this run for 4 and half hours now

loud granite
#

next run should be around an hour since now u know what to do ChenShrug
that boss takes forever if u have no snipers

strange skiff
#

Lobby might be bugged. Completion might not be validated. Keep going on your run, but thing could end up bad

static dove
#

let's hope it's not bugged lmao

#

it very well could be though, but we can hope

strange skiff
#

If you start leaving to change loadout + you've been reloading checkpoint a few times + the lobby exist for 4h30. Yeah I hope for you every thing will be fine, but you're pushing the lobby limit ii seems ^^

static dove
#

hope and pray

static dove
#

well we tried for like 2 hours, internet went down and so did the lobby

#

L

haughty jetty
#

Anyone else think that they went kinda overboard with the toxic fog?

#

๐Ÿ‘€

floral acorn
#

i don't especially enjoy poison fog but i do respect the limitations / choices it forces on players, purely as a level design thing

placid ember
#

its kind of tame this rundown honestly

#

i mean i havent been to d3 and d4 yet, but so far only c2 was annoying

#

d2 was fine since its only really 2 rooms in total

floral acorn
#

c1? do u mean c2?

placid ember
#

yeah

#

c2 sry

floral acorn
#

fogdiving w/o reps or turb, long way to get out, then a bot dispenses a 4-use disinfect pack "there ya go buddy" .. ~30 seconds and back to 99% ๐Ÿ˜„ .. bah.

placid ember
#

i wouldnt recommend entering c2 with bots and no infection resist boosters

floral pecan
#

I like having unique levels

stoic breach
#

Unless you just run through the fog.

floral pecan
#

D1 cough

floral acorn
stoic breach
floral pecan
#

yea i believe they got a sub 10

#

if i am not mistaken

#

9:48

stoic breach
#

I'm not a part of that, but yes fiireblade is nuts.

floral pecan
#

it is nuts indeed

wooden osprey
#

hmmmmmmmmmmmm

stoic breach
#

Rey Jones, Hotbox%? ๐Ÿ‘€

wooden osprey
#

i dont even know what hotbox means sad ):

stoic breach
#

Oh it just means doing D1's Class 6 immediately

#

I'm just stealing Kamusta's name for it.

wooden osprey
#

ah no i dont

#

i like D1 and D4 cause it has 3 obj in one

stoic breach
#

Fair.

wooden osprey
#

but i do want to do D1 again cause i hear there is 50 flyers now at the end of the boss fight

#

and i want to see how stupid it is

stoic breach
#

who needs frames ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™‚๏ธ

calm wyvern
#

after completing the reactor restart it still says power offline under progression, is that a bug? or am i missing something?

pulsar herald
#

Bug

calm wyvern
#

i see, thanks

pulsar herald
#

You van proceed with the objective

calm wyvern
#

ok

candid cloak
#

between the assault rifle and burst rifle, is one better than the other?

rigid sinew
#

bruh rifle is sad

loud granite
#

assault rifle is pretty basic, good all around gun
burst has next to no recoil, faster fire rate and longer range

#

u just gotta get used to it being a burst fire weapon

rigid sinew
#

afaik burst is good for headshots but ass at bodyshots

loud granite
#

its a powerful gun if ur not host MiyanoWow

lyric walrus
#

what are peoples favorite main weapons?

wise thicket
#

Carbine, SMG, AR

loud granite
#

all of them except for hel rev

#

and smg

lyric walrus
#

any good "guides" for best ways to deal with each enemy?

#

just trying to do some research while having downtime at work

loud granite
#

wiki has strategies on how to deal with the more troublesome ones, otherwise u can ask about them here

lyric walrus
#

little guys when alarm doors go off, whast best way to take them out? i pop their heads but they still attack?

loud granite
#

theres two types of them, shooters and strikers
strikers are the tongue ones and they can survive with a missing head

lyric walrus
#

yeah, so whats best way to deal with them when defending alarm doors

loud granite
#

using ur tools to reduce their numbers as much as possible, and shooting the ones that get through

#

if ur struggling to know when a striker is dead, a yellow hitmarker signifies a kill

lyric walrus
#

but they dont have a weakspot?

#

for faster take down?

loud granite
#

they do

#

head and back

#

back of the head is a double weakpoint too

lyric walrus
#

im mostly looking for ways to save on ammo when swarmed aside from tool usage

stoic breach
#

Become good with your melee.

loud granite
#

well, fastest way to kill each enemy depends on ur gun itself

lyric walrus
#

so fewest shots to kill is headshot and if head missing just aim on the next thing to the head?

#

@stoic breach i feel its hard to melee when u have like 20 swarming you during alarm scan doors

stoic breach
#

Yeah, you but you're kinda putting down what Sader is recommending.

#

You use tool to cull them, and your ammo to get rid of the rest.

loud granite
lyric walrus
#

ive been testing different ones

#

i was not a fan of the malatak assault rifel (non rundown one)

#

it had good fire rate but horrible aim IMO and i felt like it didnt do much dmg wise

loud granite
#

most main guns are like that, they are your ol'reliable and they have a massive ammo pool
ur special weapon is what u use to dish out the most damage, but they get half the ammo (but fill up twice as fast)

lyric walrus
#

@stoic breach no im not, im trying to gather information. almost always some get past tools, and i like to be as efficient as possible

#

yeah i never let go of the sniper...

#

ive debated trying others but i find sniper just too good for big enemies since its 1 shot ez

loud granite
#

well that explains why ur struggling against hordes kekw

stoic breach
#

If we're talking about pure efficiency, then you almost cannot get better than the DMR.

lyric walrus
#

are there better special weapons against hordes?

stoic breach
#

However, that means you have to be able to aim like S1mple from CSGO.

loud granite
#

yes

lyric walrus
#

ok, what info u got for reccomendations then? atm the guys i play with we all basically use snipers... lol

loud granite
lyric walrus
#

and i dont aim like s1mple @stoic breach but i can aim and i know how to breathe and make my shots count. so maybe DMR is for me

stoic breach
#

DMR and Sniper is a very low ammo count combination, so it's incredibly hard to use.

stoic breach
#

Ah my baby, but DMR makes Sawed Off sad via numbers ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

lyric walrus
#

what special weapon would you pair with a DMR to assist with hordes?

stoic breach
#

Heavy AR or Hel Gun, for me.

loud granite
#

i prefer shotgun

lyric walrus
#

the pump?

loud granite
#

ye

lyric walrus
#

i could probably get behind that

warm yew
#

Best combo

lyric walrus
#

revovler?

#

that big like block lookin one?

warm yew
#

Yes

stoic breach
#

And I love it.

warm yew
#

I'm what you people would call... A dumbass

stoic breach
#

Perfect, I only hipfire with the sniper

loud granite
#

sawed off revolver troll_getout

stoic breach
#

It also has a good deal of bullets. The only problem is small dot ADS (which I can't use).

lyric walrus
#

i dont mind reticles, i just need ammo and something that will do the trick efficiently lol

floral pecan
# warm yew DMR revo

Dmr revo feels SO GOOD for hordes i agree. Only issue is big guys, i tend to like to pair it with hel gun or heavy ar/shotty depending on level

loud granite
#

6 shots but its got the fastest reload

loud granite
stoic breach
#

LMFAO

floral pecan
#

Of course i ment only one of them catgotdatgun

#

Imagine running all 3 doh

stoic breach
#

Imagine dual-wielding Dmr and Hel Gun

#

PEW-PEW

floral pecan
#

Why not. Pewpews a lot and kills things MotokaShrug

#

I have been loving the DMR lately as well

#

My secondary tends to depend on the mission most of the time. If unsure, heavy ar does it

candid cloak
#

is there a comprehensive resource for the various tricks and shortcuts to using terminals? I tried the wiki, and while it helps there are definitely some things that are missing

candid cloak
#

so like for list, when you enter 'list res 75' instead of 'list resources zone_75' it will list all resources in the current zone as well as adjacent zone(s)

#

and doing list res zone_75 specifies just the current zone

loud granite
#

the list command filters in whatever u enter after it

#

even a simple e_75 will show everything in zone 75
because zon__e_75__

candid cloak
#

nah i get it, but im just curious to know more to how to use it

#

the terminal as a whole, not just the list command

spark wolf
#

but it can also show FOG_TURBINE_752 in zone_34

loud granite
loud granite
#

everything else is basic with not much depth to it

shrewd dirge
#

i just wish we could chain commands. like ping | list e_(the zone you're in) med.

candid cloak
#

has anyone had issues with the terminal puzzle for d2 secondary? we were getting keys that didnt match anything in the logs

loud granite
#

were u opening the right log?

#

with every entry, a new log is added

candid cloak
#

it was always the first log, never got past it

loud granite
#

it only shows the first log until u enter the first code

candid cloak
#

me and the other guy even swapped terminals incase one of us was messing something up

#

yeah, couldnt get past the first code entry

loud granite
#

PtiloThonk last time i ran that mission we didnt have such an issue

#

but i did get a weird bug in b2 secondary where only the host could progress the terminal, everyone else was getting random codes

#

they counted on our screen, but even after entering all of them, the waves didnt stop
they only stopped after the host did them

candid cloak
#

i think it may have had something to do with me replacing someone else that had left previously

#

now that you mention it

loud granite
#

yeah, could be that

#

terminals work very funny if u join midgame

austere geyser
#

I like heavy AR and the 4 shot carbine against horde

#

basically good hipfire or good range taps, depending on mission really

floral pecan
#

@candid cloak tbh terminals are not as complicated. The most complicated thing may be querying doors and mapping out where to go

loud granite
#

dont

#

do that

#

headache city modeusstare

golden scaffold
#

I run the helvolver and the scattergun. Is that bad?

distant gate
wooden osprey
#

^^

golden scaffold
#

uhh, revolver is clicking heads and scattergun is point blank on the big ones/when a bunch of small ones are in the circle?

wooden osprey
#

basically ya also its a hel revolver

#

so pen enemies

golden scaffold
#

right, shoot through a group to save ammo

#

very cool

wooden osprey
#

tbh if you dont know what to use just use AR

#

best weapon in game in terms of jack of all trades (other than charger killing)

golden scaffold
#

I'm usually not great at aiming but the enemies in this game get close so it's not that bad here

#

But I'll definitely consider the AR, it's never given me any problems

wooden osprey
#

ya

#

(i mostly go for carbine and scatter/sniper cause heavy weapon guy)

calm wyvern
#

where do i report a bug?

wooden osprey
floral pecan
#

@golden scaffold it's good, i prefer running an AR when i have sniper/scatter as each headshot can be a stagger personally

#

Which means 30 / 40 staggers vs 8 / 16. Of course it won't kill as fast, but it allows me to buy more time for my teammates to help if needed

golden scaffold
#

Makes sense, thank you

wooden osprey
#

the MG is a good pick if you are a crowd controler

#

as it has not as much recoil as before

golden scaffold
#

I'm new to the game and don't know too much about the weapon choice since it's a bit vague

wooden osprey
golden scaffold
#

Sounds good to me

wooden osprey
#

use everything than decide which to pick for your loadout

#

thats always my first tip for this game

golden scaffold
#

Yeah, there's no breakpoints or weapon mods or anything haha

wooden osprey
#

there is boosters ๐Ÿ™‚

golden scaffold
#

But yeah, I'll definitely try out the guns the game has to offer

wooden osprey
#

sounds good to me

golden scaffold
#

The sniper always seemed like a weird choice but I realize now it's not for long range, it's for massive damage

wooden osprey
#

yes it one shot headshots big enemies

#

and it is the most balanced

rigid sinew
#

Bullpup + choke mod

wooden osprey
#

haven't used the choke mod much dont like it

rigid sinew
#

it's good against big ones

#

though not very efficient

wooden osprey
#

ya

#

i think i take pump shotty over it tbh

rigid sinew
#

choke is more fun for me ngl

wooden osprey
#

now that pump shotgun is a hybrid of shotgun and combat shotgun

rigid sinew
#

best shooter killing machine Striker_Lick

wooden osprey
#

agree with that

floral pecan
#

Shotguns are decent for big ones tbh

#

Not as good as scatter or sniper ofc, but still better than your primaries

rigid sinew
#

second best for me would be
SMG + HAR

floral pecan
#

My lodaouts are very volatile. But usually i always try to keep a combination that can stagger reliably

#

If i have a heavy ar, i may run DMR or Hel rev

#

But if i have a sniper, probably AR or bullpup

#

And oh boy do i love that DMR

#

May use it instead of ARs soon

rigid sinew
#

i hate hel weapons in general
not fun having a pocket mine tbh

#

same thing with the scatter

#

it's really kek, but gets boring after some matches

floral pecan
#

@golden scaffold also almost all the weapons are balanced as long as you use them as you should, i agree on trying them out and see what feels good to you

#

Of course bare in mind to more BRRRR a weapon goes, the harder it is to keep it efficient KannaWave

rigid sinew
#

machine pistol run :trollge_sad:

golden scaffold
#

the latter is much more satisfying

floral pecan
#

I also like BLAM more

#

HEL rev and DMR are your friends here

golden scaffold
#

give us the nade launcher folks

#

oh man, a flamethrower might be cool too

floral pecan
#

HEL rev: has pen, a bit more efficient, 8 in mag, 10m range
DMR: slightly less efficient, BUT can 1 hit kill shooters, 12 in mag, 50m range

rigid sinew
#

ZAMN gun when???

golden scaffold
#

Shotgun (Dragon's Breath)

floral pecan
#

And then you got pistol, which staggers each hit and overall takes 1 / 2 more bullets to kill depending if you are aiming for the head.
ALL of these stagger each hit on small ones KannaWave

rigid sinew
#

i want a C-Foam sniper

floral pecan
rigid sinew
#

yes

floral pecan
#

That could help with my hatred against || mothers ||

rigid sinew
#

c time!

golden scaffold
#

A vest rigged to send C-foam in all directions upon trigger. Single use, of course

#

Literally coats the entire room at the drawback of needing to be very near anything you actually want to coat

#

Or maybe a power washer turret, a high-pressure hose of the stuff

#

There's lots of room to get creative with C-foam weapons

rigid sinew
#

i recently found out that enemies absorb C-Foam lol

worldly perch
#

if you drop c-foam on the floor, does it disappear after a few min?

loud granite
#

5mins

#

it doesnt expire if its used to cover a door tho

worldly perch
#

thanks

fallow night
#

Is carbine/magnum good?

#

In your opinion

supple gust
#

Carbine is very good

#

Revolver is also top tier.

fallow night
#

What I do is I use the carbine to soften em up and keep em off me, then I whip out the magnum to finish em off

#

Works pretty well if they don't get too close, which they sometimes do

#

But it's fine, magnum is good close range too

#

God I hope the carbine gets locked in like the HAR did

#

๐Ÿคค

neon gust
#

why soften them up?

fallow night
neon gust
#

......

fallow night
neon gust
#

why you calling revo magnum

#

my man tripping

#

yes all the small basic enemies get oneshotted by revo

fallow night
#

Sounds cooler too

rigid smelt
#

What are some good secondaries to complement bullpup rifle or pistol?

#

Or hel revolver, I've been considering using that

craggy pier
#

hel revolver smell ass

ruby wasp
thin pine
#

typical sader reply

loud granite
ruby wasp
#

Scattergun

#

๐Ÿ˜ณ

half yarrow
#

Are you able to join C3 mid-game or is that not something C3 allows?

gilded jolt
#

you can i think

candid cloak
#

if two people melee a charger scout, does it have to be the back, or can it be where ever

half yarrow
#

Trying to at the mo but whenever I click ready for cage drop it just says "waiting for host" want sure if it was a game issue or C3 issue XD sound will try figure it out

candid cloak
#

would 3 people be able to melee it for regular damage?

ruby wasp
#

Should be

humble latch
#

we are currently in death screen and he is in lobby but he dosent spawn in when we restart from checkpoint ( he only have "waiting for host")

#

we are midgame c3

candid cloak
#

@humble latch take as many screen caps as you can and send those to #gtfo-technical-support along with as much detail as possible

humble latch
#

ok thx

candid cloak
#

there have been a number of expedition-ending bugs associated with checkpoints, and the devs are working to fix it

craggy pier
#

were tripmine damage boosters in r5

spark wolf
#

yes

woeful kiln
#

yes

thin pine
#

Is all the lore from previous rundowns lost forever and is only available from sources outside of the game?

thin pine
#

Well, by "lost forever" i mean that you can't get it anywhere in-game

woeful kiln
#

+you can just access the logs on the santonian industries website

craggy pier
#

how bad is the gameplay with latency? would it make sense for me to join NA hosts from EU ?

woeful kiln
#

it ain't that bad!

rigid sinew
#

packet loss is more of an issue

woeful kiln
#

tbh i barely feel it

rigid sinew
#

and desync

woeful kiln
#

packet loss is another story where

#

you become god

#

and die in the next 5 minutes

thin pine
#

that sounds like regular gtfo gameplay

woeful kiln
#

nah

#

you take damage

#

without taking it

thin pine
#

yeah i get it, you don't feel like a god in the first place

woeful kiln
#

feel? i said become god

#

you're litterally invincible

craggy pier
#

I remember windows update starting in the background. enemies were all staying in space. I felt like flash

thin pine
#

overconfidence is a slow and insidious killer

inland flame
#

what's the advantage to targeting a giant's limbs?

thin pine
#

it staggers them

#

or so i've heard

inland flame
#

do they take extra damage from the limb being destroyed?

woeful kiln
#

no

#

but they guarranted to get staggered

agile ermine
#

Question for the more experienced players...
B2 secondary objective... There is a terminal.
I got the first part: uplink_connect {{ipaddress}}

But the second part is where I'm confused. It was something like verify x07:soda x06:tree x05:tent

What exactly do you type?
Uplink_verify x07? X07:soda? Just soda?

And do you have to do all of them? Or is there a specific one to complete it?

inland flame
#

if the game tells you that x07:soda x06:tree x05:tent then the terminal will ask for one of the 3 digit codes

so if it asks for X07 you need to type in verify soda or whatever the full command is

grave acorn
#

I have recently started playing the game since devs added bots. It's been great but obviously they have limitations.
Ran into some problems but got through them eventually except for this one.
That meatball on legs in D1. Anyone got any advice on how to deal with it for a solo player?

grave acorn
#

For added info, I tried flanking it. But bots keep getting spin attacked when they foolishly try to melee it. It also backs itself to a wall and zone us out with triple proboscises.
I tried C-nades and it just does nothing. I tried foam gun and it just bounces off its body and has no effect on the floor or legs.
I tried mines and it didn't activate them. I shot the mines and it didn't seem to react.
I tried 2 sniper turrets while baiting it to face me with my face and it tanked 2 100% sniper turrets. The turrets managed to pop a zit though.
Now the only option I have left is to try and bait it to face its back against wall-mounted mines or else I will have to wait and bring a deadbeat friend in for this.

void badger
#

What is a good main weapon for D3 or in general?

lapis mauve
#

I don't think you can program bots to deal with a tank as it would be very complex. The tank freezes after 2 c-foam grenade hits and turrets priority target weakpoints so they will kill a tank from behind.

covert apex
mossy aurora
#

neither of those are main weapons lol

rigid smelt
#

even better

#

i need secondaries lol

covert apex
flat rock
#

tbh

#

hel gun is a main gun for D3

#

it's like the only thing you should be using for reactor it's fucking cracked

hoary wedge
#

What does precision mean for melee weapons?

mossy aurora
#

head shot bonus damage

noble sierra
#

Extra weakspot damage

hoary wedge
#

And does it make the knifeor spear any better than a hammer or bat

noble sierra
#

Melee weapons have good balance, every melee has its purpose.

mossy aurora
#

does precision affect back damage as well?

hoary wedge
#

Whats the spear for?

noble sierra
#

No, precision & back are isolated ideas.

mossy aurora
#

ah ok

mossy aurora
noble sierra
#

Spear has the best reach, so very easy to deal with biggies & scouts

hoary wedge
#

So its for lower skill compared to hammer

noble sierra
#

If you'd like to poke the fylers, spear helps as well.

hoary wedge
#

Is knife just for rapid stealth?

mossy aurora
#

hammer has a higher skill cap than spear once things are aggroed because of movement, but i wouldnt say spear is lower skill

covert apex
hoary wedge
#

Not being able to run and charge seems like a massive down side for spear

covert apex
#

it's useless

#

worst melee of them all

#

only good thing would be it's range

noble sierra
#

True, but there's very few necessities this rundown to melee & running.

fierce oracle
#

Spear precision multi also doesnโ€™t make a difference 95% of the time

#

You are slow for no benefit

covert apex
#

fake dragon

#

where is the real dragon

inland flame
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what does the bat offer that the other melees don't?

covert apex
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stagger

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no charge stagger

grave acorn
# lapis mauve I don't think you can program bots to deal with a tank as it would be very compl...

I need 2? Dang. I was kind of dissuaded when I saw 1 foam grenade does nothing. Also, the turrets might have missed or dealt some front hits but I was stunned when it wasted all 200% sniper shots.
Not quite, being able to tell the bots to stand still somewhere is enough. All I need to do is flank it and blast it with the scattergun but dumb bots keep trying to melee it when I close in to flank it. Which results in all of them being downed very quickly. Also all bots will just crowd around me, making it harder to split its attention and leaving its back exposed.

thin pine
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i've heard that with the bat's stagger, you can "stealth" kill franks solo

flat rock
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Sniper would be a better choice tbh if you want to attempt to solo a tank as host in place of a scatter

mossy aurora
flat rock
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well "solo" I suppose since you have the bots

grave acorn
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Yeah, I should split that distinction. I am using bots.

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I could try the sniper rifle next time.

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Along with double foaming.

flat rock
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Generally the easiest/easier means of soloing tanks involves just using high ground and having him sit underneath you

midnight gazelle
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Pretty sure 1 c foam mine works

flat rock
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so you can fire down onto his sacks from above him

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without the use of foam that's probably the easiest way

grave acorn
grave acorn
covert apex
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Assuming youโ€™re just standing still, he will beat your ass

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Just take cover and dodge

flat rock
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if the high ground is somewhat short he might get stuck into a permanent cycle of attempting to smack you

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which may or may not make it easier

covert apex
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  • soloโ€™ing a tank isnโ€™t something iโ€™d recommend doing unless youโ€™ve played this game quite a bit
flat rock
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Just longer and more tedious

covert apex
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Heโ€™s a boss that requires teamwork

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You switch aggro between teammates so you can get clear shots on him

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Or her idk

grave acorn
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Yeah I just started. That Meatball on legs is the only thing I am actually struggling right now.
I will try out these things. Double Cnade foam, mines on walls, staying above it to shoot at it, using sniper rifle instead of Scattergun, and finally git gudโ„ข๏ธ.

flat rock
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The easiest way to foam would definitely be if you found a foam mine

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if you get him to run over it or can get it placed under him he should foam from just the one mine

grave acorn
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Is it the same as the foam grenade?

flat rock
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sorta

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it places like a regular mine, but has more foam blobs overall

covert apex
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Cfoam tripmine is more powerful than a regular nade

flat rock
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so it's technically better than a nade, just is a bit more technical to use

covert apex
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It freezes him for a longer amount of time

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Compared to a cfoam nade

flat rock
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since you can only aim it so many directions

grave acorn
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I have never seen a foam mine before and as far as my many attempts go, I have never seen it in the level.

flat rock
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I don't believe the level you are doing has them

grave acorn
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I'll keep that in mind for D3. Currently stuck on D1 at the end of the reactor sequence.

flat rock
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The reactor room has lots of places you can use high ground to kill tank in though

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so that's good for you at least as an end option

grave acorn
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Right, thanks. I'll give that meatball another go later today.

flat rock
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You also might be able to just fight him in the tunnel too before the reactor room with a sniper sentry at the far end

covert apex
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Kite him

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KITE KITE KITE KITE

flat rock
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just get him in the middle and have the sentry shoot his ass

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given the bots let it happen obviously

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or just temporarily disconnect them

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so you can get it set up

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either way gl

grave acorn
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Man, I am the one getting kited since he keeps zone us all out with its attacks and backing itself to a wall. That's pretty smart of it. Sniper sentry at the hallway, sure. I will consider that too, hopefully we won't get friendly fired by the sentry.
I did saw it recoiling and turning around in one of the footage, I wonder if there's a state where you can shoot at it and cause it to recoil.

spark wolf
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sniper sentry should oneshot sacks with a damage booster

grave acorn
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Oof. I should look into that. I haven't been using boosters at all since they are one and done.

rigid sinew
mighty grove
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Kind of confused on how the Rundown works i watched the youtube video and it said there would be a timer? is that no longer a thing

covert apex
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The rundown just came out bro

mighty grove
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and is there a set timeline for rundowns or are they not announced yet

spark wolf
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they usually add the timer when they're close to a new rundown

covert apex
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They said 2 months but itโ€™ll probably take 8 months to get a new one

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11 months on a bad year

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Theyโ€™re working on a new game anyway donโ€™t expect huge content any time soon

flat rock
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They've only lived up to the estimation they give in the rundown video twice, which were R1 and R2 lol

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Every rundown after has been a fair bit longer than their 2-4 month timer or whatever they said

covert apex
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They literally lied on video!!

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Smh

icy ginkgo
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guys can i only unlock 4 apparel items per run down???

topaz anvil
uneven gulchBOT
thin pine
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Oh oh since there's a mention of sectors, i just wanna ask how long are the side objectives? Are they the length of a whole new main objective or are they shorter?

shrewd dirge
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Worst case, a secondary is equal or less time than main

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Generally secondary + overload will take longer than high.

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If a secondary is extremely short, then the others will probably take longer than if they were ran separately

thin pine
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Oh so i don't have to do them all at once

shrewd dirge
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So, generally its hard to compare length.

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Ah, no. You must complete main to leave

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And i say that with a caveat

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Most parties would never run q main+overload without the secondary

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And a caveat on top of the caveat, sometimes to get to the overload, you must go through the secondary.

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Of course, youre always welcome to just do main.

thin pine
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Thank you for the insight

icy ginkgo
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can i currently unlock all apparel if i do all the req objective?

loud granite
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nope

loud granite
icy ginkgo
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really?

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awful

loud granite
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and some rewards are fixed

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but most are random

icy ginkgo
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kinda don't like that

loud granite
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no one does

icy ginkgo
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have they said they plan on changing that reward system or

loud granite
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no news

icy ginkgo
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which melee weapon is generally considered best

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spear?

shrewd dirge
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Depends on mission

loud granite
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no best, just preference

icy ginkgo
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c3

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ah

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i like dagger since it is fast and precision bonus

loud granite
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knife can drag u down on some levels but thats it

shrewd dirge
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Spear or knife, but dont melee at all in c3 if you know whats good for you

icy ginkgo
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and you can sprint while charged

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how is the bat?

thin pine
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You can sprint charge with any melee except spear

shrewd dirge
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Bat is cool when you dont need melee often and dont need to kill scouts

icy ginkgo
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c3 has no scouts yes?

shrewd dirge
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Good for active battle missions because lock insta break

loud granite
icy ginkgo
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wow, nice

loud granite
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its a great choice for c3 actually

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cus of one tapping locks

shrewd dirge
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Makes a good bit of difference

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Just wish with full charge it could break hacks

thin pine
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No melee can break hacks

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Right?

loud granite
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shoot the lock