gtfo-related-questions

[tardy ingot]

in a way that kinda just means you dont wanna kill

[prime ore]

R4D2 PE and R4E1

[burnt inlet]

Stev load into R4E1 and learn how to doorfuck tanks

[tardy ingot]

R4C3pe is worse than R4D2pe ngl

worse as in more difficult

[prime ore]

why

[timber shoal]

yeah but what if there was like forced wake or something from alarms in adjacent rooms

[tardy ingot]

No…

[burnt inlet]

It’s a good skill

[prime ore]

jst how would this be useful

[tardy ingot]

You learn how to fight tanks

[prime ore]

when I play with more than 1 dude

[tardy ingot]

learning how to abuse doors for them is not smth you should rly do before that

[burnt inlet]

Doorfucking is fine for clutching against 3 tanks

[tardy ingot]

if you are alone vs 3 tanks

Then you go around 2 rooms and revive your team for free

[timber shoal]

r5d2 extract 🤤 🤤 🤤

[prime ore]

if you are alone with 3 tanks then count your days at that point

[burnt inlet]

Skilled people would go medium and Rez team

[prime ore]

idfk anymore

we jst suck at killing tanks cuz they combine REAL good with everything else

[timber shoal]

the deal with tanks is that they’re slow as fuck right

[burnt inlet]

Play diff levels !!!!!

[burnt inlet]

Mmmm kinda

[prime ore]

dude what levels that I gotta play now

[timber shoal]

so you want to kill all the supporting enemies before tanks ideally

[prime ore]

R4 is dead except two missions

[burnt inlet]

R5

[prime ore]

isnt R5 like the hardest rundown except R8

like that is gonna be even worse atp

[timber shoal]

you can easily stay outside of tank range while dealing with smalls unless you go too far and get him to charge

is the point

[tardy ingot]

Then kill everything else

[burnt inlet]

Yea I’d say

[tardy ingot]

then after that tanks

[timber shoal]

if you’re not playing PE then it’s gonna be fine

[burnt inlet]

Hardest rundown =/= hardest levels

[tardy ingot]

R5 is hardest cuz its overall never „free“

[prime ore]

how?

[timber shoal]

it also has more levels that are really fucking annoying than any other rundown imo

[tardy ingot]

if everything is an 8/10

then the diff is 8/10

but smth with 5 10/10s and 5 1/10s is on average easier

[burnt inlet]

Its… something you have to experience to understand

[tardy ingot]

Obv hyperbole

[timber shoal]

i just realized how bad the r5 experience is if you just play the leftmost column of levels lmaooo

actual dogshit lineup

[tardy ingot]

Thats more about R5 having rly ass and rly good levels

[prime ore]

I alredy know trying to play any R5 mission above C tier is jst an awful experience

[burnt inlet]

… that’s kinda what I did

[timber shoal]

yeppers

[timber shoal]

😭 😭 😭

[burnt inlet]

No… you don’t understand

[timber shoal]

traumatic experience

[burnt inlet]

Above C tier isn’t the worst…

[tardy ingot]

A1 - sec is boring
B1 - sec is boring WHHYYY
C1 - too many uplinks (idea is sick tho)
D1 - copy and sec whyyyy

[burnt inlet]

What’s that one Russian song

[tardy ingot]

its the secondarys ngl

[burnt inlet]

That’s in every pocket golem clash vid

[timber shoal]

real

[tardy ingot]

ngl I do think design wise R5C1 is easily the best of the 4

[timber shoal]

b1 main and d1 main aren’t too bad lowkey

[prime ore]

I feel like I shouldnt even touch

R5

until I am done with R6

[timber shoal]

no no, you need to experience it

hm

well maybe

[burnt inlet]

This: https://youtu.be/p0aGjKSIS-k?si=STmDfH_AmWpQ_ljd is R5 experience… pre C tiers

[prime ore]

"yeah go torture yourself and go fuck yourself you will be fine"

[timber shoal]

it’s gonna be like jumping from a delightful hot tub into a ice cold lake

[burnt inlet]

No you’ll unironically quit the game if you do

Dodo is the only reason I’m still here

[timber shoal]

:3

but seriously though i think r5b1 pe is more difficult than like

r4d1

[burnt inlet]

Worse than that

[timber shoal]

why did they make the difficulty so fucked

[burnt inlet]

Its like cuddling with a 10/10 and then being imprisoned next to big D Randy

[timber shoal]

😭 😭 😭

[prime ore]

B tier mission being on a D tier mission

[timber shoal]

i’m not exaggerating btw dude

[prime ore]

that jst tells me R5 is made to troll ppl atp

[burnt inlet]

B2 is lowkey worse than most D tiers

[timber shoal]

not really difficulty wise imo

[prime ore]

dude is there something good about R5

[timber shoal]

it just fucking sucks

[prime ore]

what is the point of this fcking rundown

[burnt inlet]

I meant everything

[prime ore]

new objective maybe?

[timber shoal]

a2 c2 c3 d2 e1

[prime ore]

or something cool

[tardy ingot]

Design wise:

b1: nothing much going on, not bad or good. BBC error is unique but also… stupid

D1: copy of r1d1… but adds a cell hunt and a key hunt so you can do a key hunt…
Awful

[burnt inlet]

R5E1

[timber shoal]

bbc error is funny though 🥺 🥺 🥺

lowkey a really fun solo

[burnt inlet]

I like pulling both errors cuz it’s fun

[tardy ingot]

R5B1 main is B tier

Optionals dont count towards the tier

[timber shoal]

main only i mean

[prime ore]

I really wanna know what KDS deep means but I am def not beating a level that is on par with R8E2

[timber shoal]

it’s deep

and there’s some kds

[burnt inlet]

R5E1 is not on par with E2

Nowhere close

[burnt inlet]

Just like…

[tardy ingot]

People wanted more difficult stuff

10chamber wanted to give it (and also tried combatting kiting with charger spam and respawn rooms)

[timber shoal]

shush

[prime ore]

isnt like

R4E1 R5E1 and R8E2 the three pillar men of this game

[timber shoal]

mmm

[prime ore]

like the final scitzo bosses of this game

[burnt inlet]

E2 is the main man the rest is like henchmen

[timber shoal]

r4e1 isn’t that bad dude

[burnt inlet]

R2E1 is like the dog

[timber shoal]

i promise you

it’s pretty straightforward

[tardy ingot]

Respawn rooms as a mechanic are good (if used well, see r6 (d1/d3) or later rundowns. Thunderdomes are cool

For Levels: A2, C2, D2 and E1 are all sick

[prime ore]

thunderdomes? that sounds interesting

[burnt inlet]

Where my boy B3 in this it’s a good level

[tardy ingot]

Full room alarms

[timber shoal]

b3sec is the first one

[tardy ingot]

also called thunderdome

[timber shoal]

if you wanna rush it and find out

[tardy ingot]

Not since the changes in alt

[prime ore]

oh its that thingy

[burnt inlet]

Gosh I can’t wait till stev enters B1

[prime ore]

i saw that in

[burnt inlet]

And then B2

[prime ore]

R6AX

[burnt inlet]

Wdymmmmm😔😔😔😔I find it fun

[tardy ingot]

@prime ore You wanna see smth cursed? (Difficulty wise?)

[prime ore]

Fuck you I am NOT playing R5 I dont like getting tortured

[burnt inlet]

Btw R5E1 is prolly easier than R7E1

[prime ore]

sure cuz for the past week we havent even progressed btw

[tardy ingot]

R7E1 has an alternative strat that is the hardest strat thats been actively pulled off

[prime ore]

dude R7E1 is a reactor with an immortal enemy

[burnt inlet]

Skipping out on a free holiday to Brazil

[burnt inlet]

Pablo is easy

[prime ore]

I cant even imagine how were the devs thinking of designing the mission

[tardy ingot]

https://youtu.be/RPDNTsqFItg?si=0k-f-WlxWSZctrjk

https://youtu.be/dKEpD3kdOT8?si=SG9opSFjS5tOpNtX

[burnt inlet]

It’s a goated mission

[burnt inlet]

SELF PROMO SELF PROMO

Mods ban him

[prime ore]

I aint watching Ion wanna get spoiled

[remote plaza]

Pab

[burnt inlet]

Strike him DOWN

[tardy ingot]

Where media channel

[tardy ingot]

Ya dw

[burnt inlet]

#gameplays

[timber shoal]

me when you haven’t even seen the level yet

[tardy ingot]

I know its a joke

But its a bad one and genuinely overused ngl

[tardy ingot]

Nah

[burnt inlet]

@sturdy dew why not combine GTFO content creators to GTFO media😔😔😔😔

[timber shoal]

yeah fuck you moth

[burnt inlet]

Do it

Dare you

Double dare you

Tripple dare you

[prime ore]

20 minute reactor btw

[burnt inlet]

I will always make that joke

[burnt inlet]

It’s not lmao

Well depends how quick you play

[prime ore]

R7E1 is a E tier reactor there is no way the legit way of beating the reactor isn't like an hour long

Or like insanely hard waves

[burnt inlet]

Dude I almost did it in under 40 mins

[uneven kiln]

idk i saw eva beat it in 28 mins

[burnt inlet]

Like entire level except Brazil

[burnt inlet]

@grizzled patrol what was the time when we did it?

[prime ore]

Brazil equals to matter wave jump?

[tardy ingot]

I mean most reactor levels are actually just 20 minutes in a speedrun

[burnt inlet]

https://tenor.com/view/shh-cats-gif-14317670277085954258

[uneven kiln]

look at this guy knowing the canonical term

[timber shoal]

quit spoiling

[uneven kiln]

🙏

[timber shoal]

exploding you all

[burnt inlet]

Thats.. what I wudda did

[prime ore]

I know that cuz like R6AX it says "matter wave collapse"

[tardy ingot]

R1C1: 20
R2D2: 33
R3A3: 17
R4D1: 20ish
R5D2: 20ish
R6D3: 20ish
R7E1: 20ish
|| R8E2 is the only exception but its also a secondary ||

[civic wave]

god

[burnt inlet]

You forgot one reactor

[civic wave]

fucking flashbanged every time

by the original r7e1 brazil skip

[uneven kiln]

matter wave collapses occur when the translocation tether falters and it's designed as a kill switch so you don't get stranded

[civic wave]

what a horrible time to play gtfo

[tardy ingot]

i might update the og brazil skip thumbnail maybe hmm

[civic wave]

nah nah don't rewrite history

[burnt inlet]

Wait how long is R4E1 reactor?

[civic wave]

what would you want to change about it anyway?

[tardy ingot]

?

[burnt inlet]

R4E1

[timber shoal]

1 minute

[civic wave]

r4e1 sub 30 possible but my team stopped running

[tardy ingot]

Probably do smth similar to the speedrun thumbnail

But add in the gtfo characters running away from pablo (in a comedic fashion)

[civic wave]

best run right now is 31:18 with big time loss (my bad for half of it)

[tardy ingot]

Thats not main only

optional reactors are a bunch more

[civic wave]

nah nah nah keep it how it is, let it retain its character

[burnt inlet]

Oh you meant like that

[civic wave]

it's like when someone "renovates" a lovely old property with lots of character into a soulless white box inside

[tardy ingot]

its actually scary how consistent reactor speedrun times get around 20 minutes

[timber shoal]

r1e1 reactor forgotten as usual 😔 smh my head

[burnt inlet]

The most forgotten level

[uneven kiln]

dodo when are we doing the unmarked error door

[timber shoal]

guh

im busy being unproductive

but hopefully soon

i have c3 unlocked but dont have b3 or c2 done

[burnt inlet]

Damn ig I gotta stop texting so you could be productive

[burnt inlet]

Guh!!!!

Running levels without me 😔😔😔😔

[timber shoal]

mine apolocheese

[timber shoal]

no im not productive regardless

so its fine

[burnt inlet]

😔😔😔😔I’m not helping !!!!!!

[timber shoal]

you’re not making it worse though

[burnt inlet]

Id make it worse if you would be productive

[timber shoal]

i know but again

not productive to begin with 🔥

[burnt inlet]

Gosh go be productive !!!!!

Or else I’ll call Dusty on you

[timber shoal]

guh

if you get dusty talking with me imma be even more distracted

bc i would wanna talk to them too :3

[prime ore]

I genuinely thought reactors would have the most suprises out of any mission mostly cuz how it works

[burnt inlet]

Goooosh go do ur school work

[prime ore]

It would be cool to have like 3 or 2 wave reactor that lasts like for pretty long time or has a insanely strong wave

[timber shoal]

did you enjoy r4d1 then?

[burnt inlet]

Oh yea stev what did you think about last code in R4D1?

[timber shoal]

only 4 waves not intended to be repeated

[prime ore]

Its prob my favourite R4 mission

[timber shoal]

hell yeah

good opinion

[prime ore]

Its the part of mission where I genuinely think it's impossible to stealth that without using some cheese cuz wtf

[timber shoal]

rng if im being so honest

[prime ore]

5 scouts with 3 elevations full of chargers like

On winning run we activated 4 of them

[timber shoal]

if the scouts decide to fuck you over they’ll do it

[timber shoal]

yeppers

[burnt inlet]

Just shoot

[prime ore]

Shoot what bruh

I shoot 1 scout and 4 more become immortal

[timber shoal]

scout i would assume

if you can get a double scout pen with hel rifle that makes things easier

esp if you can manage even just 1 scout kill in stealth

[prime ore]

Oh yeah we got fucked in R6CX

There is like

5 scout room right

[timber shoal]

thats c1

[prime ore]

But there is stairs you have to go first

[timber shoal]

but yeah

or do you mean just a lot of scouts throughout the zone

[burnt inlet]

Shoot one scout as door opens shoot another and then deal with room and a couple of waves

[timber shoal]

because that’s cx

[burnt inlet]

Did it with bots

[prime ore]

But what if there was a giant on top of the stairs that you have to go through AND another one right under so if you try to kill the guy so you can kill scouts another giant wakes up

Its 100%

Rng fucked us right

No way those 2 giants are supposed to be on the stairs

[prime ore]

Thats cheese

[timber shoal]

possibly?

[timber shoal]

door opening silent shot is generally fine

[burnt inlet]

That typa silent shooting is generally fine cuz it’s like one rng opportunity the game gives if you’re a good boy

[prime ore]

How is there types of silent shooting

This game is bugged as fuck

[timber shoal]

you can silent shoot whenever you want if you’re good at it

[prime ore]

Yeah idfk anymore atp

[uneven kiln]

there's several variants of silent shots

[burnt inlet]

And if pinh allows it

[timber shoal]

generally a little more frowned upon though

[burnt inlet]

Defo

[timber shoal]

im not saying you should 😭

[burnt inlet]

Depends how you use ig

But still

[timber shoal]

i was just letting you know

[prime ore]

I didnt even wanna do it cuz it feels unfair

[timber shoal]

oh it is

obvs not intended

and pretty unbalanced

[prime ore]

Can you like silent shoot with a scatter

[timber shoal]

any gun afaik

[burnt inlet]

Any weapon

[prime ore]

So you can literally take out any target at all times except tanks

[timber shoal]

yeah lmao

[burnt inlet]

Dodo go and lock in !!!!

[timber shoal]

fineeeee

i wouldn’t worry about silent shooting regardless, not important to your skill set

[final terrace]

iirc it's done by extremely quickly switching off the weapon after shooting, so it's probably harder if it has chargeup

like Hel rifle or whatever

[timber shoal]

plenty of other skills you need anyhow

[prime ore]

That makes

[timber shoal]

oki im gone now

[civic wave]

well you could probably still get tanks

[burnt inlet]

Yep

[timber shoal]

baiii

[prime ore]

Scatter even better of a pick

Wtf

[civic wave]

esp if you have 2 people or good rng

[burnt inlet]

Baiii:3

Anyways team I’m also off

Gn gn

[final terrace]

night

[prime ore]

Also mothers I forgot

Its jst like R6 didn't have that many mothers

[civic wave]

it's possible :)

[prime ore]

And like a tank in every corner

[civic wave]

mothers are easy

just silent shoot twice on client

with scatter

[prime ore]

Mothers are boss enemies I've kinda learned to deal with

Cuz they dont attack you back

But tanks holy shit are they strong

[civic wave]

mothers are so much scarier than tanks tbh

[timber shoal]

the humble d2 :3

goat and i had such a fun time on that level

[prime ore]

The big one in R3D1

[final terrace]

erm, you already said bye why are you still here

[timber shoal]

getting distracted already 🔥

[civic wave]

moth learned not to fuck with terminals while deactivating alarms that day

[prime ore]

We had a fcking anime fight when we fought her for the firdt time

Actually zipping around the map at light speed

[timber shoal]

thank fuck that got deactivated lmao

[final terrace]

mods, ban her to remove distractions

[timber shoal]

fineeeee

okie bye for realsies

[prime ore]

https://tenor.com/view/mods-send-in-diddy-mods-ltg-low-tier-god-meme-gif-228742818489670441

[civic wave]

yea it got bad at the end, having the error wave still would've been awful

[final terrace]

no mods don't do that

[civic wave]

i'm still distressed over that one charger scout

mfw no hammer player to come and save me

[tardy ingot]

2 people per giant
Even if its 3. at that point you can 1 shot one. Then 2 each for the other 2

[prime ore]

By design they sure are creepier id say

[civic wave]

mothers can destabilise you much harder than tanks imo

[prime ore]

I get your logic but its on very small stairs

[civic wave]

you get a birth and things can go out of the window

[tardy ingot]

Why wouldnt you be able to take out tanks lol

[prime ore]

You cant even crouch around him so having 2 ppl to go DOWN to even get the 2nd giant is crazy

[final terrace]

I think they meant silently in one shot

[prime ore]

Cuz you cant 2 shot them and then you have to reload

And then they jst scream and fuck everything

[tardy ingot]

ye
But realistically the bottom giant wont even wake up so it doesnt rly matter tbh

[tardy ingot]

I got that ye

You can still do it

But also, I dont rly recommend silent shots

Idk why dodo and moth brought those up instead of…

Ya know. Melee

[prime ore]

I didnt even think of doing them cuz it feels like ill use scattergun in every single game

[tardy ingot]

you arent alone

[prime ore]

5 feeler 1 gorillion charger room in R4D1

[timber shoal]

there was some reason

idk

dont rember

melee obvs preferable

:3

[tardy ingot]

Room is also massive

Elevation means you actually get even more space

My first clear ever was stealthing to terminal

[prime ore]

When we cleared I rushed in to get the terminal as 4 demons wake up lol

Then 1 guy put in the code as 4 fucking feeler waves procced

[tardy ingot]

if you do main only, fair

Its kinda what we do in the speedrun

Actually

I remember wanting to show you that

But you didnt see the room yet at the time

[prime ore]

Sec isn't so bad actually

It is a fucking jumpscare for the first time

[tardy ingot]

https://youtu.be/1WSqHOclWV0?si=miRS-2om63l-IvJG

20:45

[prime ore]

Also opening the door makes the most evil sound I've ever heard in my life

[tardy ingot]

look how close that was xD

[tardy ingot]

But ye
Realistically fully shooting that room is the standard play (also very fun)

[uneven kiln]

EVA when's the sub 10 R4C2 main logless

[tardy ingot]

why would I want to run that

[prime ore]

Isnt R4C2

That shit level where you get 15 pickle jars or whatever

Through like 8 zones

[timber shoal]

yeppers

[tardy ingot]

Ive done r4c2 where we only knew about the amount per zone and pinged

horrible run

[tardy ingot]

Speedrun enters 4 of em xD

[prime ore]

Yeah that's gotta be the most ungodly rng

[tardy ingot]

~1/100

[prime ore]

Yeah the more I think abt it

[tardy ingot]

actually very chill in theory

[civic wave]

and all that time warden mapper was working but we weren't using it, right?

[prime ore]

The most annoying ass missions need good rng

[tardy ingot]

I swear we shifted dimensions

and it didnt exist when we did surely

[civic wave]

oh well, at least there were foggies for you in that box

[tardy ingot]

fuckin hell xD

[little pilot]

the lgbt logger is better anyway

[civic wave]

hm?

you keeping a list?

[tardy ingot]

I read that as an anagram for

L tgb

[civic wave]

got some special time to spend with certain people?

[prime ore]

This is how speedrunning community is like I see

[tardy ingot]

Well I hate R4C2 so im not gonna say its a good level ever lol

[prime ore]

Yeah I alr got a list of missions I genuinely don't like them at all

[tardy ingot]

R4C2 is like bottom 3

for design

[prime ore]

And then after all the jar picking you go do 3 surges btw

From 0 to 100 almost immediately

[civic wave]

it's... you're missing out on a lot that's happened, not even scratched the surface yet

[prime ore]

Its such a shit mission

[tardy ingot]

have you ever visitied zone 15?

You need a cell from the other side of the map

Its in full fog

So you want the turbine too (though you likely already had it considering 14 is also nearly fully fogged)

[prime ore]

Yes I did

[tardy ingot]

And then its a fucking awful layout with giants and smalls

[prime ore]

R4C2 was def the most dogshit mission yet

It feels like mission was made with toothpicks and toothpaste and that's it

[timber shoal]

yeppers

2hr 30min clear 🔥

[remote plaza]

I have to do it soon dodo

And ill force you to help

[timber shoal]

😭

[burnt inlet]

This guy hasent seen it yet

[prime ore]

Yeah dark said R4C2 is the 3rd most dogshit levels

What could be other 2

[tardy ingot]

R5D1

[burnt inlet]

Both in R5😭

[prime ore]

Ofc it's R5

[tardy ingot]

and then 3rd place is prob either R5B1, R4B3 or R5A3

[prime ore]

Yeah and 2nd gotta be R5E1

[civic wave]

r5e1 is legendarily good

[burnt inlet]

R5E1 is top 5 level in my books currently

[tardy ingot]

Nah thats around top 10

as in good

[burnt inlet]

What’s ur top 1 if it isn’t R5B1?

[tardy ingot]

R5D1

[burnt inlet]

Oh

Yea I’m not that smart

[woeful ocean]

So you're saying you love R4C2?

[burnt inlet]

R5D1 wasn’t that big of a pain for me tbh but I got lucky

[burnt inlet]

Banned from Eva’s discord and twitch

Ggs

[prime ore]

Wonder what the mission is abt

[woeful ocean]

Longer R1D1

[prime ore]

Its prob more pickle collecting

[prime ore]

Class 10 sustain reactor shutdown?

[woeful ocean]

With a secondary slapped onto it

[burnt inlet]

Something like that

Wait a min

Stev hasn’t seen the sustain X door yet

Lmao

[prime ore]

Thats gotta be an e tier mission right

[tardy ingot]

nah

[prime ore]

I've seen class 8 sustain

[burnt inlet]

He doesn’t know

[tardy ingot]

Reminder r2b1 has a class 7

[burnt inlet]

It’s one of the better R5 missions though

[tardy ingot]

Its all around environment

[burnt inlet]

Also that sustain really isn’t that bad

[tardy ingot]

Imo the best actually

[prime ore]

Everything circles around R5 god damn

[burnt inlet]

Its a fun one

[tardy ingot]

Alt version is peak design

[burnt inlet]

Idk if I’d class C2 below it tbh, or CS below it

[tardy ingot]

C2 has length issues (it rly should give cells for main in sec and ovl)

R5E1 has to be rated as normal clear aswell partially

[uneven kiln]

R5E1 normal route is a massive slog with a ton of backtracking

[lament pine]

Eva when will they add more moms to R8E2

I need more

[prime ore]

It doenst even surprise me that the E tier needs to be back tracked so there is much more opportunities for enemies to murk you

[tardy ingot]

just keep respawning the ones in 494 and 492

[remote plaza]

Infinte moms if you try hard enough

[burnt inlet]

R5E1 afaik don’t have respawn rooms?

Could I get a fact check on this?

||im baiting stev ik about the error||

[remote plaza]

||First respawn room is r8d1||

[burnt inlet]

Ok Tomas you need a level rn?

@remote plaza I may be available

[remote plaza]

Im mid claas rn

[uneven kiln]

R5E1 has no cocoons

[remote plaza]

Ill leave either in 1:30hs or 3

[burnt inlet]

Guess I’m tryna solo smth

[remote plaza]

R7e1

Brazil skip

[burnt inlet]

Fish!!!!!

[oblique falcon]

hello is this game dead

i looked for a game r3b1 at like 6pm cst and couldnt find game for 20+ minutes

did i just pick a bad time?

[tardy ingot]

<@&408548765599793173>

[tardy ingot]

Did you use ingame matchmaking or try searching for people on here?

[oblique falcon]

i searched on the discord server

[tardy ingot]

I dont see you posting it anywhere?

[oblique falcon]

it is my other account, befell

[austere schooner]

Hi, How does the matchmaking in discord works?

[tardy ingot]

someone do the help pls
I gotta sleep am tired

Dont forget the channel/command

[timber shoal]

hello! you’ll make an LFG post on what level you want to play then create a voice channel and link it in your post!

.t lfg

[uneven gulch]

Hello! If you are unaware, we have Looking For Group (LFG) channels to help users group up and play the game. They are located here: #lfg-north-america / #lfg-latin-america / #lfg-eastern-europe / #lfg-western-europe / #lfg-asia / #lfg-oceania / #lfg-africa / #lfg-beginners / #lfg-middle-east.

If you are unsure of how to create or join a lobby, please see the instructions here: #how-to-matchmake.

[austere schooner]

Thanks

[burnt inlet]

peak times are roughly 6 pm CET

[carmine grotto]

Weekdays its rough till about 7pm CST weekends ots better but its not a huge community still playing

[oblique falcon]

thanks!

[remote plaza]

are you now?

[burnt inlet]

Honk schimimi

[remote plaza]

gn moth

[burnt inlet]

Goon night

[grizzled patrol]

22? 24? The recording is Long gone, cant fact Check it

Choking at the extract door is sad tho

[burnt inlet]

Yep

[cerulean fjord]

Any chance of the four prisoners being a kung fu master?

[tiny wyvern]

Dauda and Bishop can't be I suppose

Woods and hacket had some time for that sort of thing
Dauda was a scientist and Bishop was an IT dude

[ocean spindle]

more like mixed for woods j hackket

[vital yarrow]

is there a mod that shows everyones ping/latency in the lobby or ingame on the prisoner status?

[burnt inlet]

Modlist and client prediction

Client made by randomuserhi the other one is locaila or smth like that

[vital yarrow]

thanks

[burnt inlet]

Modlist is for those who are also running modlist and client prediction is your connection to host

[vital yarrow]

i see

[ripe hamlet]

chat

whatd be a typical playtime for beating all lvls in this game

[patent mulch]

a lot

[tardy ingot]

we dont rly have "typical"
usually we just say 200+ hours at least

[sturdy glen]

2

[tardy ingot]

youd have to look at a static of 4 who played together for every level basically

and then whether they looked up info, strats or such

[remote plaza]

300 ish?

[tardy ingot]

Iirc the estimate for a full "carry" clear (as in a player joins, gets a clear on first try evertime at experienced but not rushed pace) is about 80 hours

[frail heart]

like at least like 4 or smth

[tiny wyvern]

I have 600 and have still not beaten everything yet

I am an idiot

[burnt inlet]

Wait

Sus

I am more than that

Like 650

Golden no way i surpassed you lmao

[tiny wyvern]

To be fair I can't do back to backs anymore

So that's a factor

I love being sick/nearly sick for the past 3 years, impacting my mental and physical wellbeing

[turbid horizon]

Dude i have like 1600 and still have R7E1 and a couple optionals

wait no basically 1700 now

[frail heart]

dak we do brazil skip for your clear

surely

[turbid horizon]

I am not persinally a fan of cbt

Chaos Brazil Time

but

idk could be fun

[civic wave]

hear me out

come with me and do brazil skip instead

[turbid horizon]

The call of the brazil is strong

[tiny wyvern]

All I remember about R7E1 is dying at last wave reactor

And standing on an orange box

To bug out pablo

No clue how that worked

[turbid horizon]

I got pretty far in R7E1 ay some point

made it to like, 4th code

[frail heart]

it is calling you

[turbid horizon]

mmmm

Once i finish occy sure

Maybe before if i ever get time for it

[turbid horizon]

I could probably run it over thanksgiving break

[turbid horizon]

what have i gotten myself into

[patent mulch]

I had around 1k at the time of my r8e2

[turbid horizon]

oh right people normally save E2 for last

[sudden nexus]

lmao had that same thought

running e2 before r5d1 >>>>>>>>>>>>>

[turbid horizon]

me who accidentally first tried it with pubs

“Let’s do one drop into E2 to see what it’s like”

3 of us knew the level beforehand but god was it funny

[fathom ice]

so I'm a pub now

i get it

[ocean spindle]

werent u always :3

[fathom ice]

correct

[ocean spindle]

one of us, one of us

[turbid horizon]

Yup yup

tbf i didn’t know any of you guys well

i had talked to Cube in chat like 4 times

For me pubs are like, people I’ve never played with who I join from lfg

And also people i don’t know

[ocean spindle]

dak hhas never talked to me D: /j

[turbid horizon]

uh huh sure buddy

[ocean spindle]

:3

[turbid horizon]

we had 5 bajillion convos in gen chat, dms and my server

[burnt inlet]

I think ive played with Dak before, just not in this server

[turbid horizon]

Not to mentiin vc

[turbid horizon]

Huh

don’t think so

[burnt inlet]

Evas server i swear we have played something

Like hide and seek or smth

[turbid horizon]

Oh maybe

[burnt inlet]

Bingo but opposing team

Smth smth

[turbid horizon]

Forgot i played bingo

[burnt inlet]

😭

@tardy ingot need to make it more exciting

[ocean spindle]

everytime u get snagged a thing one of ur team geets fusilatedd mexico 1810's style

[turbid horizon]

Listen

It was over a year ago

[burnt inlet]

I did not play with you then

Wait have you been in an event in Eva’s discord the past like… 4 months?

[digital mural]

the SSD Dak

[prime ore]

https://tenor.com/view/prince-of-egypt-wonder-of-u-gif-4402462272851450096

R4D2 epic fail

opening the door to 349 on accident and one of my teammates tried to give a medi and they got INSTA railed by a giant charger

[timber shoal]

wish that was me 😔

[turbid horizon]

No lmao

[turbid horizon]

What

[civic wave]

occy killed someone's drive

[turbid horizon]

Oh right lol

[turbid horizon]

Killed that guys drive actually (sorry pable)

[burnt inlet]

Nvm then

[rough onyx]

Booooo

[cinder lance]

how does hel shotgun and burst cannon sound? i like having a problem solver for big guys and it's kinda cool hel shotgun can both horde clear and respectively kill a giant before it has to reload
i was also eyeing the sawed off shotgun but wasn't sure if i would be too vulnerable to the horde since i got loaded punches instead of sparsed out shots

[sudden nexus]

i love hel shotung

and bc is so fun

both very fun weapons

sawed off cringe tbh

[ocean spindle]

hel shotti i wouldnt use to kill bigs since u got bc and the reloads so long, it is INMACULATE for wave clearing
bc is extremely flexiblle for smalls and bigs so it is good too
sawed off isnt culnerable as it is sparsed shots but in the sense of a lot of pellets, so into individuals or big waves is good, and it reloads real quick

[civic wave]

sawed off stands on its own really, and will serve you well against any enemy

it's the strongest primary in the game

best paired with hel rifle or scattergun but it doesn't do too badly with other weapons because of how strong it is

[cinder lance]

yeah i hear that a lot

been running out of main boosts, so cant dmr one tap gaming. sawed off one tapping looked really nice, but i never thought to use it as collateral damage due to the pellets, like scattergun

[sudden nexus]

boots

[cinder lance]

the bost

[cinder lance]

yeah the wave clearing has been bonkers

before i tried it, i was using dmr with combat shotgun and com shotty felt pretty nice and reliable, but hel shotgun can be so efficient if they're in a funnel

i like the increased reload time to compensate for it

[cinder lance]

damn. i thought that was carbine or pdw lol

[ocean spindle]

carbines pretty good but saweds offs prtty bonkers

combat also its... comparable to a point to hel shottie, cuz it has more dmg and its one of the most efficient guns in the game for smalls

so both r great

[cinder lance]

won't hel shotty out perform it with the cleave?

[final terrace]

@placid arch

what

<@&408548765599793173>

[ocean spindle]

FREE MONEYYY

[final terrace]

oh their name is moderatemoss lmfao

[tiny wyvern]

Are there just a lot of comprimised accounts out here now

Or is this something more worrying

[remote plaza]

prob acc of people who havent used them in a while and lost acces

[burnt inlet]

Dead internet theory

[remote plaza]

and a bot or something get acces to it and use it to spam this

[burnt inlet]

Which one of yall is a ChatGPT made bot?

[remote plaza]

bc i noticed all this acc lately been here since like 2019 2020

so i doubt they 100% bot acc

[burnt inlet]

It’s more so that they usually get their discord account hacked, usually via signing into fishy discord servers

Or clicking those links

[remote plaza]

thats what i think

[final terrace]

well yeah but it's been a huge volume of the same scam

[remote plaza]

never enough kai cenat coin

[urban orchid]

oh it's real

[ripe hamlet]

today session not so good

internet problem suddenly appeared and then we get our ass kicked by r7d2

[cinder lance]

tragedy

[real wyvern]

To those who were here to me (and my friend) asking for help on R2D2.

WE DID IT. 4 WEEKS. FINALLY DONE

Now off to suffer on R2E1

[sudden nexus]

nice job

surely you beat e1 soon

[ripe hamlet]

how many hours was that

[real wyvern]

Average 2,5 days for each week.
10-ish days of average 3-5 hour attempts(?)
50 hours but likely more.

[ripe hamlet]

you should skip r2e1

the difficulty jump is exponential

[real wyvern]

we ball

[sudden nexus]

first half of e1 isnt too bad

but getting consistent enough on it that you can learn second half is hard

[ripe hamlet]

it takes them 50 hours to beat r2d2

[sudden nexus]

how many total hours?

[ripe hamlet]

the second half of r2e1 is going to be hell

[digital mural]

Oh boy

Does he know

[ripe hamlet]

youd be staring down at least 100 hour grind lmao

[real wyvern]

We're about to know 💀

[digital mural]

R2D2 is top 25ish in difficulty

R2E1 is around 6-7

[real wyvern]

I heard

[digital mural]

You are about to have fun

Give it a couple tries

See how it goes

[sudden nexus]

r3 has some fun parts tho

[digital mural]

And then tell us so we can help you

[sudden nexus]

dont be afraid to move on

[ripe hamlet]

it also has r3c1

[sudden nexus]

c1 isnt even that bad

its like

key, alarm, easy alarm, error, extract

not a lot of infection

just dont roll 17 and its ez

[ripe hamlet]

real asf

[sudden nexus]

was duoing it with dodo and i forgot the difference between 17 and 20

[turbid horizon]

C1’s pretty hard for beginners sometimes

[sudden nexus]

yea having no real charger experience up to that point can be hard

[ripe hamlet]

it really is just the error and extract thats the problem

[timber shoal]

we should run that back

ez dubs surely

[reef rock]

those who infinite scout scream 😹

[sudden nexus]

rock

sounds good tho

hop on?

[timber shoal]

:3

[timber shoal]

doing hide and seek atm

but probs soonish

[sudden nexus]

ok like killing you but ok

anyone else wanna jop on c1 to prove your better than dodo

[real wyvern]

We met our first Surge alarm.
it is surely something

[timber shoal]

e1?

r2e1 i mean

[real wyvern]

Yesh

[timber shoal]

surely there's only one surge in that level

:3

[real wyvern]

Ah cheers, that's good to know ;3

[timber shoal]

there's slightly more than 1 surge in that level to clarify

i was being sarcastic

[tiny wyvern]

Have you been able to figure out what surge alarms do?

[burnt inlet]

could i join you two :3

[sudden nexus]

how does duos work with 3 people

[burnt inlet]

trios :3

[real wyvern]

"roll 17"?

[ocean spindle]

iiits a zone u will see when u see

[timber shoal]

zone 17, if you get unlucky and "roll" it (hsu spawns inside) the level becomes much harder

[sudden nexus]

rolling zone 17 vs 20 for objective

[real wyvern]

Oh boy-

[uneven kiln]

play the level the deranged way and don't care where your HSU is located just go into 17 and 20

[ocean spindle]

:D

[real wyvern]

Host of our group (and another person) decided to skip R2E1
Kinda sadge

[reef rock]

r9 will add the good rng spawn booster

[burnt inlet]

thats for the best

[digital mural]

Good

Nothing gets you ready for that level

[prime ore]

Yeah that is a smart play of him

[timber trout]

does someone know what happened here?
r7e1 after entering last code, scout in first room of second respawn zone triggered randomly, maybe after touching door

[uneven kiln]

scout bombing

[timber trout]

found it, tyty

[tardy ingot]

@mystic heron funny timing

[mystic heron]

lmao

[sick mauve]

https://gtfo.wiki.gg/wiki/R7E1#Known_Bugs

[topaz python]

doing R3D1 rn, wish me luck. What weapons to take aaaaand did the fix the exploit where you can shoot the big mother before the door fully opens?

because if so that would influence what I take for sure

[digital mural]

no

[topaz python]

they didnt fix the exploit?

sick

[sudden nexus]

that exploit is part of the door itsself

so useable with any apex door

also useable with normal sec doors

[burnt inlet]

get scatters lowkey, better overall for the level and as easy

[topaz python]

I DID IT FIRST TRY

[timber shoal]

huzzah!

[grizzled patrol]

Back then Burst Cannon Had a 5 burst so the DPS on Shooting from door was good, nowadays its Better to Just leave her and let her wake Up slower for the scatterguns to Run Up to her

[prime ore]

how many burst cannon bullets does it take to kill a giant?

is it like 6 so even with a 5 burst it wouldnt 1 shot

[ocean spindle]

no but it was faster to do a burst and finish with main

[prime ore]

true

burst cannon is still pretty decent

it would be interesting if there was a mod where you have like pre nerfed weapons

I wanna see how juicy the 5 burst was

[timber shoal]

poke around in r2modman and check, ik there's a mod to revert sniper to 3mag

r6 version if i do recall

so its entirely possible there's a mod to revert burst cannon as well

[prime ore]

I would like to try that

also does sniper 1 shot a charger scout from front or you need back dmg

[timber shoal]

ask @raven copper hehehehe

[prime ore]

I feel like he would try to snipe a feeler and then he would miss

lol

[timber shoal]

thats moth

[raven copper]

y yes ima expert

[prime ore]

actually how many nerfed weapons are in game?

ik two

sniper and burst

[timber shoal]

based on the r3d1 run that one time would you say that sniper 1taps cscouts to the front

[timber shoal]

i mean like

theres lots of small buffs and nerfs

[raven copper]

no.

[prime ore]

I meant major

[timber shoal]

#patch-notes does exist

[raven copper]

case closed

nice work dr house

[timber shoal]

:3

[prime ore]

I see

[raven copper]

https://tenor.com/view/house-md-huh-meme-funny-what-gif-13757300940814596109

[prime ore]

isnt like bullpup

nerfed asf

[timber shoal]

yeppers

10c did this cool thing called nerfing weapons based off pick rate rather than balance

[prime ore]

pick rate?

was bullpup really that popular??

[timber shoal]

which is a really cool philosophy that definitely didnt lead to some absolutely fucking busted weapons

[prime ore]

it isnt really that cool of a weapon honestly

[timber shoal]

iirc yes but i could be wrong

[prime ore]

without like counting balancing two coolest weapons are slug shotty and veruta lowkey

[raven copper]

veruta enjoyer I c

[prime ore]

it has a very juicy shooting sound and pretty cool sight

also the gun is huge asf

[timber shoal]

big agree

its not very powerful but it sure as shit feels like it is

[raven copper]

ive been a veruta player for quite some time dw

however I can't cheat on my bbg helrifle

[prime ore]

I dont usually use veruta

cuz it falls off on chargers

and tanks

and cuz ive been playing R6 lately

like every mission is jst tanks everywhere

[timber shoal]

yeppers

[timber shoal]

c3, d1, d3, d4 isnt too bad

pretty big chunk ig though

[prime ore]

C3 is tough as fuck

[timber shoal]

i love c3

goated ass level

[prime ore]

R6 has more tanks than R4 which is where he gets revealed which is kinda stupid

[timber shoal]

true lmao

[prime ore]

except R4E1 which is a tank simulator

[timber shoal]

generally you see a total of like

5-6 tanks i think in e1?

it really depends on if you're pushing fast

but yeah lmao c3 has about as many tanks as e1 should reasonably throw at you

[prime ore]

I mean how many forced events do you have to do before turning off the lockdock protocol

its like two sustains?

idfk

[raven copper]

didn't we trio that

[timber shoal]

two alarms ye

[timber shoal]

yeppers

goated fuckin shit

[raven copper]

if your fast enough you barely deal with any tanks at all

[timber shoal]

mako knowing the route really helped admittedly

if we were lost we'd've been fucked

[timber shoal]

yeppers

[prime ore]

Ion like R6C3

[timber shoal]

🥺

its fun though

[prime ore]

that mission is so much harder than a C lowkey

[timber shoal]

i mean

[raven copper]

I barely remember route so that was huge

[timber shoal]

in the same way that r5b1 is not a b tier if you do PE

[prime ore]

it is funny to see your teammates get run over by a tank every like 5 minutes?

[prime ore]

yeah but its R5 which is dogshit

[timber shoal]

you do know how to fight tanks right?

[timber shoal]

also yes lmao

[raven copper]

thats if your giga fucked on time

[timber shoal]

if they get steamrolled its fuckign hilarious

[raven copper]

c3 you shouldn't fight more then like 3 tanks if that

[prime ore]

in general yeah but with other enemies we gotta wait around and shoot the little dogs before fighting the pitbull

[prime ore]

this happened to me like lasts 2 minutes we had no ammo

[timber shoal]

trio we killed 5 methinks

[prime ore]

I tried to c foam a door

and them a tank breaks the door and INSTANTLY runs me over

[raven copper]

cause our time was bad

[prime ore]

like didnt even lick me he jst dunked on me

[raven copper]

like really bad xd

[timber shoal]

yeah thats true

[prime ore]

those enemies are so fucking strong

[raven copper]

jus engulf the tank an eat em

[timber shoal]

yummers

[raven copper]

https://tenor.com/view/i-am-the-angry-pumpkin-gif-16758654276864441779

jus do this

[timber shoal]

oh no! it is the dive rocket launcher!

[raven copper]

take action regarding that individual!!

[timber shoal]

relax, i'll handle it.

[prime ore]

I dont wanna do door edging yet

[timber shoal]

nah you dont need doorfuck to kill tanks

[raven copper]

wait what now?

[timber shoal]

just have half your team stand to each side of the door so one side always has access to back

[raven copper]

heyo

[prime ore]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-patrick-water-bottle-bottle-head-gif-27083229

yeah but my teammates are kinda like this

thats kinda hard to do lol

[raven copper]

dude.....theres no way they can't jus look one direction an press shoot

[timber shoal]

just tell them lmao

[raven copper]

right.....

[timber shoal]

say "stand on left side"

and you take riight

[raven copper]

I need to be in a stev lobby

[timber shoal]

then tell them to shoot

[prime ore]

they know where to shoot the tank but to force him to turn around

[raven copper]

must experience it

[prime ore]

they jst kinda like to constantly shoot his ass

without thinking

[timber shoal]

you dont need to force him to do anything

just stand on either side

and you win

[raven copper]

I need to partake in one

[timber shoal]

ez profit

[prime ore]

where you from?

I am EU so dunno bout the ping

[raven copper]

idc ping i must observe

NA btw

[prime ore]

yeah we are def not playing together lol

we could stream idfk

[raven copper]

my ping wont be that bad

[timber shoal]

its not that big a deal

[raven copper]

desync here an there nothing crazy

[timber shoal]

if sniff runs client prediction mod its clean as hell

[prime ore]

I am asking that cuz desync in this game is so bad

[timber shoal]

no issues there

[prime ore]

you could hit an enemy

it wouldnt die

scream

and then die

and wake up a room

[timber shoal]

desync shouldnt be that big a deal

i've played in moth's lobbies before

its quite manageable

[raven copper]

an i cant host cause uh

[prime ore]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1414674463861243947/1434255901006499840/js_wiggling_the_dih.gif

[raven copper]

it's a chronic disease I have

[prime ore]

time for me to use cconsole

and get rest of my unlocks

cuz I forgot to do that yesterday

fuck

[timber shoal]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-burrito-meme-wrap-tail-gif-2308438475957214931

[timber shoal]

which levels

[prime ore]

all of R4 except R4D2 and R4E1

and some R6 missions

[timber shoal]

gotcha

cconsole on r4c2 🙏

[raven copper]

mod that blows up tank with mind

[prime ore]

I aint replaying shit

[timber shoal]

replaying levels that arent dogshit is fun lwk

but things like r4c2 can rot in hell

[prime ore]

its fun but like

if you know the bit of the mission

[raven copper]

https://tenor.com/view/drake-computer-notebook-explaning-gif-21152267

[prime ore]

the only funnies youll have is to not tell the bit to your friends and hope they get ran over

[timber shoal]

shush 😭

[timber shoal]

i wouldnt say thats the only fun

but it is part of it lmao

[raven copper]

lub you tehehe :>

[prime ore]

https://tenor.com/view/garmin-gif-11692060418494810115

[tardy ingot]

Burst cannon is changed rather than directly nerfed

A lot of weapons were changed and nerfed and buffed over the years

[tardy ingot]

No

Bullpup was never rly good/better aside from 1 patch with a minor buff in alt r6

[tardy ingot]

Not rly
Just weak

weapons have gotten mostly buffed (the weaker ones at least) over the years

[tardy ingot]

It still is a top 3 picked main

Beginners make up the majority

[tardy ingot]

Its 3 alarms in r4e1

[prime ore]

number 1 was like smg

[tardy ingot]

AR smg and bullpup basically ye

[prime ore]

I mean its all auto weapons they are the easiest to play anyway

[tardy ingot]

Honestly no lol

[tardy ingot]

they are most picked cuz its common names and they „feel“ good plus they have „lots of bullets“

[prime ore]

I mean you hold m1 and hope the thinks you shot died so

[tiny wyvern]

That's the thing

The things you shoot at don't die

If you want to feel like you're doing something, MGs and autos are a really good way to do that

[tardy ingot]

easiest to use weapons are semi autos with more leniency for mag size, fast reloads without cancel

and if you arent stupid about range the sawed off

so basically pistol as an example

[worthy shore]

anyone know if its possible to make bots not pick up resources or use them

[frail heart]

If you dont want bots to pick up resources you gotta stand next to the locker with the resource

Otherwise they will just pick them up

[worthy shore]

got it ill just do my personal way then

just downing them but dont wanna do that if i hav to

[timber shoal]

lwk its a strat

if your bots are mag dumping when you really need them to not do that just dome their asses

[worthy shore]

it was more like they were wasting ammo packs on a reactior mission

[timber shoal]

which one, r2d2?

[worthy shore]

nah r1c1 got some family and friends to try game for first time

and 1 had to go so had a bot

[timber shoal]

ah gotcha

they’ll do that to some extent

keep em on bio and burst cannon and you should have a relatively good time

[worthy shore]

also anyone know if turret back dmg is all same now or not? last time i played was r4/r5 and they just changed it

then

[sudden nexus]

only hel auto has back damage

[worthy shore]

okay

[burnt inlet]

One bot doesn’t seem that bad tbh

[remote plaza]

moth r4c1 today?

[burnt inlet]

I eepy

Honk schimimimi

Plus I need to get up in 11 hours

[remote plaza]

bro has school

[burnt inlet]

Frfr🥀

[timber shoal]

might b on later

nrn though

[remote plaza]

just ping me when you wanna

im free for a lot of time

[tiny marlin]

I have not played this game in years, is there a way to create an invite only lobby or something, I have a friend I want to play with, but don't want randoms joining

[remote plaza]

on the right of the screen there is a red box that says to copy link to clipboard

send that to them and they can join

[tiny marlin]

But people can still join, can't they?

[remote plaza]

only if they have the code

[timber shoal]

not without a code

[tiny marlin]

ah, figured it out, thank you!

[civic wave]

Yeah, you can't use the matchmaking option if that's what you were trying

everything is done through the host lobby function

[burnt inlet]

Don’t think so

[tiny sapphire]

secondary weapon recommendations for R4C3, tank is non-issue. Really it's the giant charger room at the end and alarm to the turbine room

Usually I run sniper for scouts if something goes really wrong, but it's mostly used to do quick one shots on troublesome chargers.

[remote plaza]

you should run hel rifle

also 1 shots snipers

but has more ammo and better fire rate

[tiny sapphire]

I'll try it

[timber shoal]

like tomas recommended you should swap sniper out and hel rifle in, it oneshots chargers, headshot kills scouts and backshot kills cscouts, which makes it REALLY good for c3

[remote plaza]

makes it good in almost all levels tbf

[timber shoal]

absolutely yeah

it excels at everything except boss clear

it doesnt struggle with anything frankly

[remote plaza]

yeah, good at everything

even in swarm clears if you line them up

[timber shoal]

yeah if you have even like

ok lines

you're getting stupid amounts of value

[remote plaza]

tbh it carried me on r2d2

[timber shoal]

imma try and solo that shit at some point

hel rifle's just that good

[tiny sapphire]

I like being able to hit scouts from stupid distances and just pull the room

but I'll just learn the range

[timber shoal]

you should be able to oneshot them from practically any distance

[[Hel Rifle]]

[gray rapids]

https://gtfo.wiki.gg/wiki/Hel_Rifle?action=edit&redlink=1

[tiny sapphire]

55m is the distance