#gtfo-related-questions

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sturdy glen
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and instead I have to reset

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very zzz

fathom ice
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u do mom for speeds tho no?

sturdy glen
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its the same thing

fathom ice
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oh

static kestrel
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are yall still talking about r7d2?? lol

sturdy glen
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you just reset off pmom instead

fathom ice
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is it close B vs A

fathom ice
prime musk
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how many rooms are there on mom side now again

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like 6?

sturdy glen
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3

prime musk
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wait it's 3????

fathom ice
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yeah

prime musk
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there are so many more on tank side wtf

sturdy glen
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2 of the rooms have playable cells but you mainly just want A

fathom ice
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ye

sturdy glen
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cuz fucking with another room is rly sus

fathom ice
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it's mostly C cell sadly

sturdy glen
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tank is like

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fine

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its just HELLA rng

fathom ice
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ye

sturdy glen
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like nothing matters when you take it slow

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pmom can just kill you but 3 tanks is fine

fathom ice
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honestly pmom is fine

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u just kill birth

sturdy glen
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its not fine

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trust me

fathom ice
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nahhh

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if it's that bad

sturdy glen
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you never get time to kill her

fathom ice
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ure grabbing a c trip

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and it's super fine

fathom ice
native sun
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You also have a regular mom who's sprinting towards you the whole time you're in pmom room

fathom ice
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you kill it first prob

native sun
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I did not, I just killed tank in NE corner of bridge room

native sun
fathom ice
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u prob play close

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like near bd

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and make her go up and kill birth on staircase

static kestrel
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ok so like

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i just tried r7d2

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wtf am i supposed to do after the first blood door lol

native sun
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Shoot it a little when it opens, then run through, get to back of room and kill from there

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If you have sentry you place it when you run to back of room

static kestrel
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well i cleared the blood door easy its just after that i got cooked

fathom ice
static kestrel
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i didnt know what to do i held in that room for a bit then opened a door and woke a buncha shit up and then died lol

fathom ice
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u can watch this

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for reference

native sun
sturdy glen
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need to get boxes open as well

native sun
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If it's shadows you're mostly just trying to rush a scout but otherwise you pull room, chargers you just do one room at a time

sturdy glen
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try to get things that arent hack locks open

static kestrel
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after that i was fighting a combo of shadows and hybrids and shit

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is the other door on the left chargers?

native sun
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It's a 50/50

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You can check the terminal to find out

static kestrel
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so either door can be either one?

native sun
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East door is always shadows, west door is always chargers. You only need to go to one because only one of them will have the password you need

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Terminal tells you which zone has the password

static kestrel
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oh i see

native sun
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R7D2 is still going to be good shooting practice but if you don't know the zone layouts, terminal / cell locations etc. it might be a bit of a stretch in terms of actually completing it

static kestrel
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thats what im saying

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ive completed it 3 times but like

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my memory no good lol

native sun
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Play it if you want shooting practice, if you want to beat a level it's not the way to go rn

static kestrel
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then what should i dooooooooooooooooo

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how can i build up that point

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to that point*

native sun
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For beating a level where difficulty is around r6c1, r1b1 clear all zones, r1b2, r2b1, r3a3

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You can mostly just pick an a-b level and give it a go

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There'll be a class 3 or 4 alarm which will be hard and it'll be good practice

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Just avoid levels with multiple heavy carries at once so you're not wasting your life carrying 4 cells around

static kestrel
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i hate levels with cells...

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r4b1....

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(i think)

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thats the one with like 3 cells at the start right

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r6c2 is also like that i believe

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both of those levels make me cringe

fathom ice
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then play smth else !

upper ginkgo
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get on the r3d1 solo grind

fathom ice
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fr !!

static kestrel
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i havent done r3c1

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lol

sturdy glen
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do you stealth charger for r3d1

native sun
sturdy glen
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L

native sun
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Even for duo it is basically equal

static kestrel
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so i just dropped into r3d1 solo

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no bots

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and i spent like a good 10 min running around before realizing the terminal spawned with me in the starter room lol

topaz anvil
static kestrel
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yeah lol

opal rover
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yo is this game dead

frail heart
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not as of now

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we are in the yearly dead period tho

opal rover
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so when is a good period to get in

frail heart
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any time is a good time

runic roost
frail heart
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there is just usually more people playing in the later half of the year

runic roost
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Before it really dies

sudden nexus
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tomorrow is probably better

wheat gate
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the game does change as u play it

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when u just start the game you will NOT be playing the same game as someone with like 2k hours

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imo it changes from stealth horror to something closer to an action shooter as u get more comfortable at stealthing that u dont really need to pay attention to stealth anymore

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and then as u also get used to the shooting it changes again to become more like a puzzle game

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figuring out how each level works and what resources u can use where for better efficiency

tiny wyvern
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...Also, where was the question?

wheat gate
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so i think when those guys say "more people play in the later half of the year" i think they mean more people are playing the puzzle action shooter game

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not the stealth horror game lol

wheat gate
tiny wyvern
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And less new people are here

wheat gate
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o

tiny wyvern
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So in terms of getting the game, right now would not be as appropriate as say, during the summer sale

wheat gate
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tru

tiny wyvern
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When the game gets a fat discount and people gain interest again

wheat gate
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soon surely

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end of this month

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i think thats usually when steam summer sale is

tiny wyvern
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This game still sees people coming and going regularly, I doubt it would truly die down soon

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...Albeit, we've been receiving an eccentric lot these past few months that have stirred things up a few times

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I hope we don't see more of them swarming in

runic roost
tiny wyvern
runic roost
sudden nexus
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guh wish i ss those messages

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funny asf

timber shoal
sudden nexus
timber shoal
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real shit

sudden nexus
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ong

civic wave
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i would never be GNC

digital mural
timber shoal
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somehow im not surprised that there's a large trans/enby population in the gtfo community

digital mural
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GTFO playera are just mentally insane

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And unstable

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Mellnany is the clear example of a true GTFO player

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šŸ™

civic wave
timber shoal
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that wasnt what i was implying

digital mural
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Goat

civic wave
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i mean, the societal stressors placed on trans people are likely to cause distress which can manifest as stuff, but yea

digital mural
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Read

civic wave
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yeah i know i know

digital mural
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I was replying to fucking Golden message

civic wave
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but it's still a very unfortunate timing in the rest of the conversation

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and easily missed by the messages splitting up

digital mural
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It clearly follows by Mellnany is a blah blah blah

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Reading is truly a power

civic wave
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well when the message about mellnany isn't visible on your screen, yeah

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again, unfortunate timing

digital mural
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Chat

civic wave
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i've insulted you before, you know full well if i was going at you it'd look different

digital mural
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LOL

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Fair enough

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But honestly

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Reading guys

tardy ingot
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Very unfortunate look for sure

inner inlet
digital mural
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Reading is a power

civic wave
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it fucking is which is why you should read the situation and know that we all fucking know

digital mural
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I sure hope no one takes it out of context now

civic wave
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bla bla bla bla bla YES YOU CAN STOP SAYING THE SAME THING 5 TIMES NOW

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leave it for next week like you normally do

digital mural
tardy ingot
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lemme screenshot it and send it to people

digital mural
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How you just came

timber shoal
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jesus christ

digital mural
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Stuff like that easily can fuck up with someone

timber shoal
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it aint that deep

sudden nexus
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šŸ’€

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tf is this

tardy ingot
civic wave
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i looked away for a few fucking seconds and the message you were replying to wasn't on my screen

sudden nexus
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going back to being a sleeper

tardy ingot
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I am currently prepping my cooking

civic wave
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like yeah, it could fuck someone up both ways

timber shoal
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whatcha making

tardy ingot
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I saw it like goat

and was like ā€ždamnā€œ thats a fucked up message even If I know its likely not meant like that

sudden nexus
tardy ingot
timber shoal
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hype

timber shoal
tardy ingot
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I wouldve made something better

ocean lance
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i hate that you said spaghetti with arrabbiata

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cause that's not how it works lmao

tardy ingot
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o.O?

grizzled patrol
ocean lance
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it's spaghetti arrabbiata, not "with arrabbiata"

sudden nexus
ocean lance
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ok american

tardy ingot
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arrabbiata refers to a spicy tomato sauce dish

sudden nexus
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go mama mia on a sleeper

ocean lance
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team

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you are so not italian

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why do i even bother

sudden nexus
ocean lance
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that's why i dont speak to you

grizzled patrol
tardy ingot
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I get what you mean
But its logically still correct since the sauce itself can be called out

ocean lance
digital mural
ocean lance
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guys the sauce is not called arrabbiata

tardy ingot
ocean lance
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the sauce is a spicy sauce

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the spagheti becomes arrabbiata

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because arrabbiata means angry

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it's spicy

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therefore arrabbiata

digital mural
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Angry spaghetti

grizzled patrol
ocean lance
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therefore it becomes spaghetti (arrabbiata) <- adjective

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you dont put an "with" to an adjective

tardy ingot
ocean lance
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cause an italian told you

tardy ingot
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Arrabbiata sauce

ocean lance
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fuck jamie oliver i guess

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which btw is why my cat is called jamey

tardy ingot
ocean lance
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that's why i shouldn't bother

tardy ingot
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have you not seen how he misshandles other dishes??

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if you search for it in the internet

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Its being called arrabbiata sauce

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Whether the italian origin is just spaghetti arrabbiata or not wouldnt necessarily mean that usecase is wrong suddenly

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id assume its similar with carbonara

sudden nexus
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carbonara my beloved

burnt inlet
tardy ingot
digital mural
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is that supposed to be uncommon?

timber shoal
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ketchup is kinda strange but ig its tomato based

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bacon makes sense tho

burnt inlet
burnt inlet
burnt inlet
inner inlet
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is trying r2e1 with 3 people viable?

prime musk
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worth a shot

undone raven
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where do you hold for the 5th and 6th wave solo r3a3

prime musk
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it's preference really, but i find best spot for wave 5 is code hunt 1 area A, you only get enemies from reactor direction. instantly retreat and pull class 3 when you can, and stragglers should be cleaned up as you finish alarm

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(hold downstairs)

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if you're forced to repeat code 5 hold in first code hunt area A but upstairs on the catwalk to funnel enemies from both directions down it

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code 6 i like holding in code hunt 2 zone area B. you get some enemies from behind, but it's not very much. you roll a hybrid wave (2 hybrids) or some giants, at most, sometimes nothing. you get to have lots of res around you since all the boxes spawn in there, and when leaving for code plug you get to close door behind you to lock out the end of wave giants that (usually) all spawn behind you. they'll never reach you if you just plug code and run to extract, and you won't have to fight anything at all to get code plug typically

undone raven
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alr i will try this

timber shoal
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does the spread pattern of shotguns change at all when ADS'ed?

jagged shore
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no, exact same as hipfire

timber shoal
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gotcha, ty

timber shoal
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is there a lore reason why bots love hugging big strikers

wheat gate
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what

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they do that for u?

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they never want to get close when i want them to melee big boys

topaz anvil
wheat gate
timber shoal
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which would be alr on any level but r2d2

prime musk
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idk you never stealth in r2d2 where there are giants except donut room
and even there you just stealth minimally to get scout before shooting 2nd scout

timber shoal
sudden nexus
timber shoal
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guess I gotta lock tf in

ocean spindle
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lock melter be like

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if a giant wakes up in ur room i would focus to stagger it, maybe shooting if possible

digital mural
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Except the donut room

timber shoal
digital mural
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Oh

timber shoal
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Havenā€™t had many issues with anywhere else except when mistakes are made

digital mural
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Yikes

digital mural
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It's not recommended

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But it can work if you are really struggling in that room

timber shoal
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Usually weā€™re able to get through without any issues but I think that when I killed the second scout a sleeper got long distance aggroed

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It screamed and woke the room up which wouldā€™ve been manageable given the bots didnā€™t do something dumb

tiny wyvern
timber shoal
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Well the bots decided to all walk down the stairs a few seconds after the room woke up

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Problem being there was already a giant making its way up said stairs

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Iā€™m not sure if the bots have issues with the stairs or what but not only did they not shoot the giant but they also all got downed by its melee attacks in about half a second

static kestrel
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i watched a solo r7d2 vid of a dude whos strat was to wake up the 5 charger scouts and just leave all spitters to cap the spawns

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how viable really is that

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also i cant remember what level someone told me to practice i forgor

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im thinking r3d1

minor fractal
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3D1 is a really strong practice level

static kestrel
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i really wanna understand why burst cannon over scatter for r7d2

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but just so i can understand i have it rn in my run lol

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also wtf happens in 3d1 cuz all my attempts yesterday i kept getting railed

minor fractal
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So it's really good for just fighting shit

minor fractal
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Plus Scatter is a ZZZzzzz weapon

static kestrel
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ok so uh i fucked up and totally woke up the scouts lol

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bro the burst cannon feels so slooowwwww

minor fractal
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The most annoying thing on it is burning ammo packs tbh

static kestrel
minor fractal
static kestrel
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it does that?

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maybe i just used it wrong

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lol

minor fractal
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Every bullet is 20 damage, so every bullet can one-tap a striker to body

static kestrel
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oh i seeeee

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noted noted

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okok

ripe hamlet
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i thought ppl call it burst dragging

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pretty satisfying getting two anyway

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sadly training map is stuck with 5-burst bc and i cant practice it on that

minor fractal
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3D1!!!

static kestrel
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what ab 3d1

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lol

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what would u bring if u wanted to beat 3d1

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namely the tool

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mines?

tardy ingot
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sentry for a typical clear is probably easiest

static kestrel
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sniper?

tardy ingot
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burst

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you are mostly dealing with striker waves

minor fractal
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Pump probably also works p well

minor fractal
static kestrel
minor fractal
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Yeh

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Doesn't have to be

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but it's optimal

static kestrel
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is there a more optimal option than the sawed off?

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im ngl ever since i heard how its jus the best now apparently ive just been using it but before that i was a dmr glazer

minor fractal
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3D1 is just easier to play w/ on

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But you might struggle w/ babies or bosses depending on loadout

static kestrel
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theres babies in r3d1?

frail heart
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guys can we not normalise leaving out the r

static kestrel
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your right im sorry

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i was jus copying how he says it

minor fractal
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Prisoner

fathom ice
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man

frail heart
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pisone, ats in a cage

static kestrel
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what

spark wolf
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pls just say bianhua

fathom ice
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hianbua

runic roost
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Auhnaib

vital yarrow
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just curious, do tripmines have a chance to spawn in r2d1?

grizzled patrol
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I think i have Seen them in the genny room

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Could be wrong tho

tiny wyvern
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Usually only one tho

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Recommend running mines for that level anyways

burnt inlet
vital yarrow
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im running it solo, so my go-to has been burst sentry

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no turret help on the alarms is a little ass

fathom ice
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do you hate yourself

vital yarrow
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yesn't

vital yarrow
fathom ice
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about r2d1 part

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like

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why

vital yarrow
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idk

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i started it and just stuck with it for some reason

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im too stupid to quit

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:)

grizzled patrol
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Blood Doors are pretty much a Joke there. If you have pen weapons you can Just hold in the previous room

vital yarrow
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ive been running with sawed off and combat shotty mostly

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i ran basic shotgun and smg when i started

grizzled patrol
vital yarrow
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ill give mines a go next time

grizzled patrol
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Dont

vital yarrow
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i can try it but i prefer sentry way more

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cause a few mines across a hallway will help for the first few guys and thats it

runic roost
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Nah bro shotgun sentry

vital yarrow
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dont like it on this level

grizzled patrol
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You can Speed Up clearing rooms by Just pulling and tripmining the Doors, but in R2D1 there are No fucked rooms with Billion enemies

vital yarrow
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609a kinda is, tho i can stealth it always

grizzled patrol
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Maybe the First Zone after genny Cluster, but you dont have Doors for the First room

frail heart
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just take burst sentry

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and hel rifle

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and sawed off

vital yarrow
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true

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except ill prolly panic with hel rifle during scans but i could just back up and get a clear line

grizzled patrol
inner inlet
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Any tips for r2c2, im almost 100% sure my groop is cooked on this level

frail heart
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take knife

inner inlet
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For fast charge to kill sleepers faster under the spawning enimies?

rapid warren
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get cell and maybe turbine if u feel like it asap

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imo do the class 2 in zone 14 before u hunt ids in zone 14

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114*

burnt inlet
rapid warren
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im a forgetful goober

inner inlet
rapid warren
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turbine is lowkey not useful if u come out of the class 3 with not a lot of infection

burnt inlet
rapid warren
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u can just tank it

burnt inlet
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mb team tired and dont remember it that well

inner inlet
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Isn't there aids fog in r2c2?

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It looks blue

rapid warren
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u get disinfect station after 114

burnt inlet
rapid warren
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also beward of the last pid

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it spawns giants

inner inlet
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Is the fog in the whole area if 114 or just the start of it?

rapid warren
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114 is entirely in fog

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and some other rooms like 116 are also in fog

burnt inlet
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i sent u a pic of where it is in media delrat

rapid warren
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just tank the fog bruh it not that bad

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unless ur team is slow

inner inlet
rapid warren
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then have someone pickup the turbine

inner inlet
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We berly beat r1c1šŸ’€

burnt inlet
rapid warren
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the non biotracker person

burnt inlet
uneven kiln
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moth beat R4D2 PE first try

burnt inlet
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goodnight

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.

rapid warren
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2 sentries, 1 mine, 1 bio is good for r2c2

uneven kiln
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agreed

inner inlet
rapid warren
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for 114, i would say once u open it, keep left and take the left route

inner inlet
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But after 14 there is very litle fog right?

rapid warren
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uhhh yea

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but searching for the pids in both of the zones might involve fog diving

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the thing is u dont want to bring the turbine into 115

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most ppl just leave the turbine

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u can if u really want to, its just u have to haul that thing back

uneven kiln
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Having to go into 116 is often a death sentence if itā€™s needed, so much harder to deal with than other zones

inner inlet
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Are all pids in the blood door zones?

rapid warren
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nah

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theres one in 114

civic wave
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all of the pids in the blood door zone are in the blood door zone.

frail heart
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holy moly

inner inlet
rapid warren
uneven kiln
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never heard of that gun

rapid warren
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so innocent

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dont lose that innocence

inner inlet
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Guns? I use bat cuse it onetaps everything

digital mural
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Deez can onetap everything

timber shoal
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oop

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virus time

sudden nexus
static kestrel
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hell yeahšŸ˜›

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everytime i try to watch a vid i fall asleep lol

upper ginkgo
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this guy DEFINITELY doesn't watch 3 hour long youtube video essays

ocean lance
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loser

sudden nexus
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or at least duos

ripe hamlet
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we wouldnt be playing gtfo if we would take an easy way out like that

sudden nexus
ripe hamlet
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real

static kestrel
sudden nexus
static kestrel
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uh

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ur alone on that one buddy

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lol

static kestrel
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bro like i swear sometimes when i try to use the bc it just wont charge after clicking and holding

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and it really throws me off

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i managed to get past the first alarm and into the next zone but then i got overwhelmed cuz the mf bc will not shoot for the life of me

timber shoal
sudden nexus
timber shoal
sudden nexus
static kestrel
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thats concerningšŸ™šŸ¾

timber shoal
static kestrel
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im concerned for my own safety not yoursšŸ™

timber shoal
sudden nexus
proud socket
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Anyone have any tips for solo R6CX ive done every level of r6 with bots but this level has left me stumped for the triple uplinks.

frail heart
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that level is just kinda fucked

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true solo hasnt even been done

topaz anvil
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Step 1, run 3 different biobots
Step 2, profit

proud socket
grizzled patrol
tiny wyvern
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normal r6cx is already a pain

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Solo is just really really annoying on top of it

uneven kiln
frail heart
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i mean just the dimention a little bit with enemy pathing

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but that helps you

tardy ingot
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its pretty doable with 3 bots

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not easy for sure

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but they can defend you decently well

proud socket
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Yeah, ive had no issue with other levels with 3 bots in r6 its just this level in particular

uneven kiln
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but can also work against you if you do the uplinks in particular order

safe cradle
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I bet mid-top-bottom is easier than top-mid-bottom

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but I did mid first like 1 time

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Everyone else is always top to bottom instead

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which I think it's vastly worse because mid is fucked in general (thight corners+fliers squishing inside the "room")

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And I also think that people could bite a bullet and just do that 3 sentries 1 bio

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or foam+ 2 sentries +1 bio

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enemies die back on complex after teleport, I think

uneven kiln
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yeah I do mid-top-bottom now, if the lobby isn't running stairsfix/lgtuner

safe cradle
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mid is just too bad and bottom is just too easy

sage pulsar
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what do I do next thats not r1c1

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*solo

frail heart
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r6c1

sage pulsar
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hmmmmm

tardy ingot
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@sturdy dew wtf does the wheel mean

sturdy dew
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Every level gets put into wheel of names and that decides what it is

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I wonā€™t add levels already done though

tardy ingot
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"every level"

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soy

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šŸ’€

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nah

sturdy dew
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And Iā€™ll hold back on e tiers this time

tardy ingot
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R1A1, R1B1, R1B2, R1C1, R1C2 just in R1 would suck

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id get the wheel if its like a set of good levels

little pilot
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actually every level is a very bad idea

sturdy dew
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Convince people not to vote for wheel then

tardy ingot
#

well you didnt rly explain it

sturdy dew
#

There you go

tardy ingot
#

too many levels are just not good to run for this

frail heart
#

r6c1 again pls

burnt inlet
#

@sturdy dew it should only be ā€badā€ levels to speedrun, like R5B1 BabyShooter

tardy ingot
burnt inlet
#

Isnā€™t it the reactor in secondary or whatever?

#

Thought it didnā€™t have any submissions

tardy ingot
#

its main only likely

burnt inlet
#

BruuuuuhšŸ˜­

sudden nexus
#

e2 main only speedrun

frail heart
#

^

tardy ingot
#

it would be hilarious

#

if people actually tried

#

but I can only see people getting stuck over and over again

#

@frail heart what would r5b4 times be for a comp kappa

frail heart
#

33:17.5 and 33:17.9

edgy dew
#

any word on updates or any changes to the game?

tardy ingot
edgy dew
#

though rundown 7 and 8 would also get alt versions

ripe hamlet
#

they wont via lore reason

tardy ingot
#

lore wise OG R1-R7 is 1 story line
and ALT R1-R6 is another (R7 doesnt happen because of ALT schaeffer acting differently)

digital mural
#

They don't make sense lore wise

safe cradle
#

Is there a mod that makes other people say lines?

#

My character kept asking for ammo but I wasn't doing anything.

sudden nexus
safe cradle
#

and I dont have chatterreborn

#

it is perhaps useful to know that everyone in the lobby was kinda desyncing a lot (was my fault)

sudden nexus
#

huh

safe cradle
#

yeah for what it was there was also weird behaviour that I doubt was a mod (client goes down, I get him up, then the "let me help you up" line played way late)

#

Perhaps those kinds of audio cues get fucked with heavy desync.

grizzled patrol
proud socket
prime musk
#

is the tile used for r4a2 secondary (the huge class 3 room where you do 1 of 3 alarms depending on where hsu is) used anywhere else

#

it is so good

civic wave
#

not to my knowledge

sturdy glen
#

underutilized tile

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its used in modded a lot

burnt inlet
prime musk
#

checks out maybe i need to play modded to get to enjoy the tile more

ocean lance
#

samdown! ! !

prime musk
#

samdown duos except i load in pubdown sawed off and scatter

ocean lance
#

we're so back

#

samdown duos with pubdown guns

#

and we run double scattergun

dusty basalt
#

If we fail biotacker achievement and undo back to a checkpoint, is the achievement part still failed, or does the checkpoint undo it?

sturdy glen
#

mixdown if it ever releases

static kestrel
#

broooooooooooooooo

#

r3d1 man

#

i did the first class 3, got the key, beat the blood door, cleared the zone AND beat the class six, but fell because i cant find the resources quick enough

#

man

prime musk
#

in zone after class 6 there are very little resources

static kestrel
#

oh awesome

prime musk
#

you should just be beelining to sec door and insta plugging baby

#

mom will stay at downstairs while you loot, disinfect, and clean up all the stacked errorwaves, so plugging immediately is the play

static kestrel
#

i just had no ammo and 20 hp tho when i opened the class six door

#

so i was like man i need something

#

the only thing i found before i died was a tool so it was just over

prime musk
#

then loot more in the zone before proceeding

static kestrel
#

thats where i found the tool lol

#

i couldnt get my hands on anything else unfortunately

#

so noted right upon beating the blood door i need to thoroughly loot the zone before doing the class six

#

so ik where shit is

prime musk
#

you should be starting that alarm at like 100/100/100 with a 4 or 5 ammo so that you can immediately go to plug nenoate but you're just trying to clear so you can skimp out and get res after (since you're not speeding)

static kestrel
#

then gaer back up and run down the infection zone

#

gear

#

and ofc the baby

static kestrel
#

lol

#

i think my issue is i keep getting overwhelmed by the error spawns

#

like i swear it feels like they spawn anywhere

prime musk
#

2 rooms away, but the giants are slow and often stack with the small waves

static kestrel
#

why cant they just always spawn behind me

#

they like to spawn ahead in the rooms that are unclear

#

which wakes up the rooms

prime musk
#

yeah they do that

static kestrel
#

and also is the giant and the 4 minis supposed to spawn in different locations??

#

like they do that a LOT

prime musk
#

yes

static kestrel
#

that shit is so annoying

#

esp towards the end

#

the giant spawned on me while i was running for resources which is fine, but the 4 minis spawned where i was running so i ran into them

prime musk
static kestrel
#

since i had no ammo i couldnt fight fast enough (gonna bring knife ig) and then the next wave spawned on top of me so i died

prime musk
static kestrel
#

i dont literally mean on me but yk what i mean

topaz anvil
#

helo chat

prime musk
static kestrel
#

i was jus using bc and sawed off

burnt inlet
prime musk
#

ye that's good

#

do you brush with bc

static kestrel
#

i try

topaz anvil
prime musk
#

/are you trying to brush

#

good enough

topaz anvil
#

how about we speedrun breakthrough 2 C

static kestrel
#

so hold on just to be clear mr zed

#

after that class 6

#

i just run down that zone and its a security scan door?

#

then i shove a baby and reloot and then fight and win

#

pretty much right?

prime musk
#

have you looked at the map

static kestrel
#

nah ive just been playing blind lol

#

ive never played this level until yesterday

#

just been practicing

burnt inlet
prime musk
#

in that zone there is a security door (no alarm) that leads to the neonate plug room. the fog zone has very little res but the nenoate room has A LOT

topaz anvil
prime musk
#

plugging the neonate stops the error alarm

static kestrel
#

REALLY??

#

THE ERROR STOPS WHEN I PLUG THE BABY??

prime musk
#

yes

static kestrel
#

oh fuck yes im totally beating this level

#

my first D tier level solo'd incoming

prime musk
#

the strat in solo typically is to close all the doors behind you on way to neonate room so that you get to go into the room out of the fog and disinfect and plug without fighting

#

then clean up the like 5 stacked error waves in that room

#

and then kill mom by doing some start (there are lots of them, with varying degrees of speed and risk associated with them)

static kestrel
#

i just carry the baby with me through the rooms while clearing them

prime musk
#

ye that's the standard strat

static kestrel
#

also ive never fought a mom by myself before should i be worried lol

#

is it a normal mom or like

#

big momma

prime musk
#

not really if you know the enemy and have sawed off you're safe

prime musk
#

dw the big mom is later in the level

static kestrel
#

oh light work

#

what

prime musk
#

what

topaz anvil
#

what

static kestrel
#

what

burnt inlet
#

what

prime musk
#

erm

#

im afraid to inform you

#

the error section

burnt inlet
prime musk
#

is like half of the level

#

and that the second half isn't really significantly easier (though it is very different)

static kestrel
#

what.

#

ok so hold on

#

i shove a baby in

#

what happens next

topaz anvil
#

alarm turns off

#

nromal motehr spawns

prime musk
#

alarm off

meager mortar
#

you get a visit from an interested party (mom)

topaz anvil
meager mortar
#

also you're given the obj update to move to the forward extract

static kestrel
#

ok

#

so i kill mama

#

then what

prime musk
#

then your job becomes to clear a path to extraction

static kestrel
#

clear a path from what

#

after the mom shouldnt it b quiet

prime musk
#

it is

meager mortar
prime musk
#

but you need to get to the extraction scan??

static kestrel
#

so whats the catch here

meager mortar
#

extraction isnt the same zone you spawned in

prime musk
#

you have enemies in the rooms that unlock when you plug baby

#

and alarms that lock the zones

static kestrel
#

oh theres a room that unlocks when u plug the baby

#

aw

#

man

prime musk
#

and maybe there's a big enemy waiting towards the end

static kestrel
#

aw

prime musk
#

it's a hard solo

static kestrel
#

i dont wanna watch a vid but i might need to ngl

prime musk
#

like it is very straightforward

#

but the rooms are very scary and big mom requires good strats

burnt inlet
#

The mom is sleeping and you can sneak thru it amirite chat

prime musk
#

it wakes up when door finishes opening

meager mortar
#

i thought it woke up once the door opened

static kestrel
#

if only lol

burnt inlet
#

Lmao

static kestrel
#

so like

#

how much easier is it with another person

#

maybe ill duo it before i solo it

tardy ingot
#

A lot

prime musk
#

more than 2x as easy

tardy ingot
#

duo is just healthier to play

prime musk
#

it's like not even comparable

static kestrel
#

i dont have a duo whos at my level rn lol like ive got like 2 friends who play but they dont actually play they only play when they wanna join me and do like randomized loaduts

#

like put simply they have like 20 hours i have 500

prime musk
#

i'll take you on a r3d1 duo tour rn if you want it ig

tardy ingot
#

you could always find people

static kestrel
#

i can but rn im in a vc with my friends

static kestrel
#

why do u think i dont lfg anymore and wanna be a solo player so badšŸ˜›

#

(jokes btw)

burnt inlet
prime musk
static kestrel
#

currently watching a dmc5 stream lol

prime musk
#

i can play anyways just get in the teamscans and we're good

static kestrel
#

bet

#

slide that coooddeeeee

prime musk
#

ouh i get to host that's big

static kestrel
#

wtv one u wanna do mister

#

im calling u coach now

burnt inlet
#

Kinā€™s gonna run scatteršŸ‘€

prime musk
#

naw burst cannon is good

static kestrel
#

nah still running sawed off bc lol

burnt inlet
#

Wā€™s

#

No cheesing moms

topaz anvil
static kestrel
#

me and mr coach jus fucked that level lol

burnt inlet
#

In a dom way or sub way?

static kestrel
#

most def a dom way

#

actually just ran it down

#

level is dope asf

#

its def gonna be a while before i beat it solo but this is nice

burnt inlet
#

Wā€™s

prime musk
#

ill take my +1

#

i should go test my new solo speed strat i theorycrafted earlier

static kestrel
#

as in solo speedrun r3d1??

prime musk
#

yes

static kestrel
#

is that even possible lol

burnt inlet
#

Average zed skilled moment

prime musk
#

yeah

supple axle
#

Is there a list of every terminal name for things to search using the list command? Stuff like how personnel IDs are just ID_, GLP_, GLP-2_, etc.

digital mural
#

You can list pretty much anything

supple axle
#

Yeah I know I can list anything, but I'm just looking for a list of the names specifically

digital mural
#

Doors, lockers, resources, zones, keys, etc

digital mural
#

The game tells you anyways when you need to look for something

ocean spindle
supple axle
#

Yeah, I just went through all the expeditions and grabbed their names

#

It's not everything but here's a list of things you can search related to the objective that you'd have to go to and pick up (so no HSUs, generators, etc.)

KEY
ID
BULKHEAD_KEY
CELL
OSIP
FOG_TURBINE
GLP-2
PD
DATA_CUBE
HDD
GLP
CRYO
CARGO
HISEC_CARGO
NEONATE_HSU
MATTER_WAVE
COLLECTION_CASE
DATA_SPHERE
PLANT
digital mural
#

šŸ™

ocean spindle
#

i hope u finished the game

#

or didnt get massively spoiled

wheat gate
#

and then we can actually prove whether list u e_### is mathematically optimal

uneven kiln
#

Is Zone 267 in R8C1 never accessible?

patent mulch
digital mural
#

Some zones in R8 are locked for both OG and ALT team since you explore them with the other one

#

In R8C2 you go through 267 as OG team

uneven kiln
#

Gotcha

safe cradle
#

In any event I think one of those doesn't show for U filter but I'm not entirely sure.

#

Yeah ID doesn't show

#

the item type is IDENTIFICATION

#

instead of UNKNOWN or SECURITY

safe cradle
#

I also wasn't able to list NEONATE on R7B1 but I was on R2E1

#

I assume it's because R7B1's given from the start

#

Fun to know that COLLECTION_CASE and the MATTER_WAVE_PROJECTOR do not have numbers

topaz anvil
safe cradle
#

at least MWP doesn't in R6A1

safe cradle
topaz anvil
#

Bc I'm pretty sure you can ping cells you are given when you drop into certain levels tho i might be misremembering

safe cradle
#

I know because of R4B1

#

I'm sure someone with datamine-fu black belt knows why and will let us know

topaz anvil
#

I know just the person

#

@tardy ingot šŸ˜Ž take it away

ocean spindle
safe cradle
safe cradle
#

even if I do not touch it

#

it does show up in R2E1

tardy ingot
#

@safe cradle did you try listing just the zone its in?

#

if it doesnt show up that way then it definetly doesnt

safe cradle
#

for the record it's R7B1

ocean spindle
#

D:

outer granite
#

anyone got tips for the best loudouts for bots and generally good weapon picks?

fathom ice
#

burst rifle / bc

#

for bots

outer granite
#

bc?

ocean spindle
outer granite
#

ty

ocean spindle
# outer granite ty

its good for them cuz its biig damage, but if u feel u struggl with friendly fire (or need more small clearing) u can give them veruta machinegun too

#

for tools, bots work 10/10 with a bio (bbest than players), work good with sentries, ok with mines but iffy with foam

tardy ingot
# outer granite anyone got tips for the best loudouts for bots and generally good weapon picks?

for bots:
Burst rifle/hel revolver for main weapon
burst cannon for special if you want them to have high killing power
machine gun (veruta) if you want them to just act as support and not use too much ammo while being efficient

Melee doesnt matter for them, they use a unique one

For tools. Giving one bio tracker is always good. After that you would want them to have sentries > mines and basically never give them foam.

For generally good weapon picks:
Main weapons:
Sawed off shotgun, hel shotgun, hel revolver
but carbine, dmr, hel auto pistol are also good

Special Weapons:
Scattergun, hel rifle, hel gun
Burst Cannon, High cal, combat shotgun and shotgun are also good choices tho

Tools:
Bio tracker (should always have one on the team), mines (if you have doors to mine), cfoam (if you have mines and doors to shut with foam and you want to keep enemies out) and for sentries typically burst sentry (leave doors open for it to funnel enemies through sentries)

melee:
hammer or knife really

ocean spindle
#

omg

#

how do u
write so much

tardy ingot
#

I wrote 2 seperate messages in 1?

#

its not that much tbh

fathom ice
ocean spindle
#

it a bit

fathom ice
#

should be a command

ocean spindle
#

i mean

#

[[Bots]]

gray rapidsBOT
tardy ingot
#

LOL

fathom ice
#

nvm

#

i take it all back

ocean spindle
#

:3

fathom ice
#

[[R8E2]]

gray rapidsBOT
burnt inlet
topaz anvil
fathom ice
uneven gulchBOT
burnt inlet
uneven gulchBOT
fathom ice
#

fuck

burnt inlet
uneven gulchBOT
topaz anvil
#

L + embed fail

fathom ice
#

only mod mail can do embde fail

topaz anvil
#

I still can't believe soy called me gross

#

I will never recover:(

burnt inlet
topaz anvil
#

šŸ˜­

#

Demote him

burnt inlet
#

Demote him to normie, has to pub to get his admin back

grizzled patrol
frail narwhal
#

What 'roles' are there to specialize in?

fathom ice
#

wave clear / boss kill

#

and flex prob

ripe hamlet
#

carry and carried

tardy ingot
#

for more beginner lobbies you could argue
wave clear, giant clear, support/cover (for shooting)
but when you get more experienced support/cover is just typical play for everyone if necessary and giant clear becomes giant/boss clear

(flex is always there, since all rounder weapons are simply some of the good options you have)

on an unnecessary basis there is focusing on term, looting, killing etc while in stealth but thats just stuff you learn to do over time

ripe hamlet
#

just make sure everyone knows how to do terminal or enjoy getting punished for it

tiny wyvern
burnt inlet
#

Imo everyone should be able to but one should be dedicated term guy (usually fastest and most reliable typer)

frail narwhal
# tiny wyvern Do you plan to only learn one or two of the roles or just to get a general idea ...

general idea, altho personally im trying to be like the the Critter killer if u will, small and squishy remover idk how u call that i run the Raptus Machine Pistol and the Veruta MG. i am becoming quite good at keeping my ammo balanced the Ventura is only coming out in the major combat points of the mission basically. found it to be a little unwieldy at 1st but honestly i like that thing a lot now after ~20h of playtime.

im a bit insure about the Machine pistol but i prefer the super fast reload it offers and the massive ammo pool. the clean iron sights are also a huge plus for me a bunch of the scopes are... not good imo i with some i genuinely struggle to see the enemy's lol

when it comes to the rest of my gear i usualy bring the Club/batton whatever its called for the fast lock breaking or the speer because i like how it looks idk XD i dont do much of the stealth killing i seem to cause more harm then good trying to do it so i rather sit back, weapon at ready if shit hits the fan.
and the support tool slot belongs to my friends, i dont actively bring anything i just take what they want me to usually a turret of some kind.

so all i do is make sure the basic enemy types don't overwhelm my friends and ensure that they can focus on other targets.

tardy ingot
frail narwhal
#

thats neat :D

supple axle
#

I remember watching this video a while ago, does long range aggro only trigger on enemies that're in the glowing/throbbing states?

frail narwhal
#

i dont rly see how the Veruta is weaker tho, compared to the Arbalist, it fires faster, staggers just as much and has more ammo available.

#

in terms of main weapon yea maybe but idk what else to pick rly

frail heart
frail heart
frail narwhal
#

but ratatatatatatat :O

frail heart
#

Carbine is also good

tardy ingot
frail narwhal
tardy ingot
frail heart
tardy ingot
#

it kinda goes over whats the waveclear options in some situations

frail heart
#

Automatic weapons are worse in general compared to semi auto and burst

frail narwhal
#

why?

tardy ingot
#

first 20 min is basically the 3 different enemy encounters for small wave clear

tardy ingot
#

they are just kinda understatted and have downsides

supple axle
frail narwhal
#

is there still balacing going on or will that just stay like that? shouldnt every gun have up and downsides?

ripe hamlet
#

i played on low res setting and veruta just straight up blind me when firing lmao

ripe hamlet
digital mural
frail heart
digital mural
#

Devs already finished this game

#

They moved on

#

:(

ripe hamlet
#

for waveclear just use hel gun and pretends youre godgamerā„¢ļø

digital mural
#

Sawed off + hel rifle šŸ¤®

tardy ingot
#

one of them is the "controlled long aggro"

supple axle
#

I know you can kill a long range aggro'd enemy to avoid it but I swear there was an easier one

fathom ice
#

u bump into an enemy

#

and force a wake on a whatever enemy u want

tardy ingot
# frail narwhal is there still balacing going on or will that just stay like that? shouldnt ever...

there is no more patches realistically (game is quite finished)

The gun balance just isnt suuuuper well done.
The upsides:
everything IS viable, even if there can be massive differences in strength
theres a good few weapons to choose from that are strong

the downsides:
theres noticeably differences in strength that can make some weapons seem laughably overpowered or weak
theres a few slop kinda weapon choices (like the fully automatics in the main slot) that kinda overlap and dont do much

fathom ice
#

or u can hit the ground just outside of range to not get proxi !

native sun
#

You can hit the ground and any sleepers alerted won't trigger short or long range aggro

tardy ingot
#

yea thats the other one

supple axle
native sun
#

Spear stays winning. Poke ground behind you, poke enemy in front of you. Profit.

tardy ingot
#

had that happen on a n-scout today in r8a2sec
killed the one right next to it shortly after

supple axle
tardy ingot
digital mural
supple axle
#

Is the detection range for hitting a surface the same for all melee weapons?

fathom ice
#

yea

supple axle
#

7m

fathom ice
#

same with hacklocks / padlocks and some other stuff

native sun
#

(Knife is 4m)

tardy ingot
#

knife breaking smashlocks stays winning

supple axle
tardy ingot
#

or you have lock melters tbf

#

best consumable

fathom ice
#

e2 knife for padlocks is justified

native sun
#

Spear and break it from another room stays winning

#

Add the LoS check in there ez

supple axle
#

So should I be smacking the floor in anticipation of approaching an enemy while walking around meleeing enemies to avoid long range aggro or should I just smack them all in the head in a row like usual?

tardy ingot
supple axle
#

I've been just going from closest to closest since long range should aggro the closest one

native sun
tardy ingot
#

that would be

#

smth

#

but yea the latter

#

wait tru

#

is it later or latter?

supple axle
#

Latter

fathom ice
#

latte

tardy ingot
#

latte machiato?

native sun
#

Typically it would be latter in that usage

ripe hamlet
#

i didnt know hitting floor would not trigger proximity aggro

#

i can finally solo stealth group of 4 plebs

frail narwhal
fathom ice
keen seal
digital mural
#

Hel pistol is the better MP

ripe hamlet
native sun
#

It is very dumb!! Stealth completely solved by pressing movement every 4 seconds and hitting the ground!!

fathom ice
tardy ingot
supple axle
tardy ingot
ripe hamlet
#

i swear it doesnt have occi hitbox

fathom ice
#

on the other note

#

team I got my first knife double hit today !

tardy ingot
#

you gotta aggro the standing shooter

#

easy kill on alert

keen seal
tardy ingot
#

hit 2 enemies at once

keen seal
#

guh

fathom ice
#

u pray

supple axle
#

I stand up behind the shooter and giants to get them to do that animation where they flex their heads back

#

And then bonk

fathom ice
#

u get 2 enemy hitboxes in one spot

native sun
#

Spear double remains the coolest

frail narwhal
ripe hamlet
fathom ice
#

or something

native sun
ripe hamlet
#

feel way better than double-hit with knife fr

fathom ice
#

ohhh

#

get it

supple axle
#

Do we have visualizations of all the weapon hitboxes as they swing? They move in the actual direction you swing but the hammer swings so much lower than I'd expect

tardy ingot
# frail narwhal i mean i am quite close to what i shoot with it and dont hold the trigger down t...

(the point for full autos is that you are very likely never reaching their theoretical efficiency)

compare say machine pistol vs sawed off (which is rly fucking strong)

machine pistol theoretically can get like 5 more kills/refill on strikers (about 13 vs about 8 on sawed off)

but sawed off with any realistic aim gets 8 kills per refill everytime (and does way better into bigger targets anyway)
machine pistol you easily drop down to 8 even when shooting pretty well

native sun
supple axle
native sun
#

Honestly I should just record a bunch of them

supple axle
#

Yeah after learning the hammer swung pretty low, I got head hits way more easily

fathom ice
#

what's the bat deal

#

same as hammer i assume

frail narwhal
#

i see, altho i assume that means hugging everything with the shotgun

ripe hamlet
#

easy giant solo i guess

supple axle
#

How does the bat break locks in 1 hit? I thought locks would just go based on weapon damage but hammer > bat
Does lock also take stagger damage?

ripe hamlet
#

it just has more environmental damage multiplier

tardy ingot
supple axle
tardy ingot
shell stag
#

Keep your brothers away from this one

tardy ingot
#

well, except combat shotgun (and kinda scatter but thats a different story)

native sun
tardy ingot
native sun
#

They out here calling me Combat Shotgun with this efficiency

tardy ingot
#

me when I hit the triple triple striker client headshot every time and get TWENTYFOUR POINT FIVE kills per refill

supple axle
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I looked at the sledge hitbox, it goes past my health bar
The knife hitbox actually hits first right in the circle and then moves past it to whatever direction you swung, anything before the circle doesn't exist
Unless you charge, then it actually stabs forwards as you'd expect

wheat gate
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if a thing shows up with the number i types its probably not in my zone

supple axle
frail narwhal
supple axle
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A charged bat hit swings in an X that goes past the circle but the sledge swings basically vertical all the way down to your health bar at times

ripe hamlet
fathom ice
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just diagonally instead of horizontally

supple axle
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Is there a "proper" strat for dealing with shadows or should I just mine a door, shoot in the room, shut the door and stop thinking about it?

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Because stealthing those rooms has been a miserable experience

ripe hamlet
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bring guns with strong flashlight

fathom ice
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bring bio

ripe hamlet
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or say screw this and bring pdw

grizzled patrol
tiny wyvern
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Some guns have thermal sights, use them if you have issues with shadows
(Not skill issues like not being able to actually aim and hit your shots, issues like having to turn shadows to low and not being able to see jack)

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The thermal guns aren't terribly well at high end stuff, but they're good learning tools

fathom ice
supple axle
fathom ice
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but

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all the rooms are dark tho

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u can see with ur flashlight ezpz

ripe hamlet
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dark room = easy seeing shadow

supple axle