gtfo-related-questions

[ocean spindle]

they make levels way more fun

most times

for a2 i think its crucial

a2 is a boring main with batshit insane optionals that make it cool

[burnt inlet]

Good luck is my tip

Do the secondary

Trust

[ocean spindle]

and the overload

[burnt inlet]

Yes

Do both

[azure narwhal]

it sounds extremely hardcore to do both

[ocean spindle]

they are funny but they are not that hard

[burnt inlet]

Nah

It’s easy

[azure narwhal]

for yall pros maybe

[ocean spindle]

i mean tbh all r5 is hard but well

if ur in r5, i woudl imagine u would know how to deal with this

otherwise like what are u doing

[azure narwhal]

always quit on C in other rundowns haha

[burnt inlet]

Nah trust I first tried it

[burnt inlet]

R1C2

[ocean spindle]

uu should probs come back and do r1 and r3 ones

maybe r4 ones

[burnt inlet]

Nah but do R5A2 and then go back

[azure narwhal]

i cant do the reactor, i just cant complete it im too bad

[burnt inlet]

And do

[ocean spindle]

get help

not as in therapy

players

gamin

recieve advice

[azure narwhal]

i have recieved advice

im too ass

[ocean spindle]

and have u tried with people

[azure narwhal]

yes

[ocean spindle]

... mustve gotten a bad team lol

do u wanna try

[azure narwhal]

not right now, im playin with my buddies right now

[ocean spindle]

gaming

[burnt inlet]

Id pick hel shotty

[ocean spindle]

well uh idk therees some guides u could probs look into

[[R1C1]]

[gray rapids]

https://gtfo.wiki.gg/wiki/R1C1

[ocean spindle]

id pick something with a lil more range ngl

[burnt inlet]

For R5A2

[azure narwhal]

i picked hel shotgun and mastaba

[ocean spindle]

oh

[azure narwhal]

already dropping

[ocean spindle]

for a2 yes for r1c1 id goo hel revo probs

[burnt inlet]

Id pick hel rifle and sawed off maybe?

[burnt inlet]

W’s

[ocean spindle]

im gettin mixed up now about which fo whuch

[burnt inlet]

😭🙏

They’re playing R5A2

I think

[ocean spindle]

hel shottie gaming

but no optionals

[burnt inlet]

Ye

[ocean spindle]

sadge

[azure narwhal]

im gonna try secondary

[burnt inlet]

Do it - Palpatine

[keen path]

greatest edit

[burnt inlet]

Why did my phone autocorrect that

Anyways

[digital mural]

Have one bot and one player defending

You can go and one bot to search for the cells

There's terminals in those areas I believe

Use them

[burnt inlet]

Update us lol

[azure narwhal]

in there right now, im scared because you are making such a hype out of it

is the mom there??

everything has 1 use so far

very weird

[ocean spindle]

[azure narwhal]

oh no

reroute power

thats prolly gonna turn off lights or sum

[digital mural]

Chat

Does he know

[ocean spindle]

chat, no

[azure narwhal]

WTF was that

wait but is that it? that wierd dude spawned and is that the whole sec. part?

[burnt inlet]

Yep lol

That’s a dog

(Or snatcher)

And he kidnaps people

Follow main rn

When you pick up main objective go into the door that unlocked

[burnt inlet]

@azure narwhal how did it go?

[azure narwhal]

we killed him too fast didn see it unfortunately

would have loved to see that

[burnt inlet]

Lol

I didn’t

Cuz bots

[azure narwhal]

we killed that guy and kind of went main, can we still do overload?

still in lvl

[burnt inlet]

Yea, overload is after you’ve picked up the item

[azure narwhal]

what item

[burnt inlet]

Top left of ur screen

What does it say

[azure narwhal]

find hisec_thingy

[burnt inlet]

That’s the item

[azure narwhal]

and bulkhead key, but when listing it doesnt show any

[burnt inlet]

Nah ur good with bulkheads it’s just wonky

Query the item

(Go to terminal type ”query hisec_thingy_xyz”)

And it’ll tell you what zone it’s in

[azure narwhal]

we just need to ping it rn

[burnt inlet]

Also another tip is, once you land in a level you could do ”list key”

[civic wave]

some bulkhead doors are in lockdown until a certain condition is met - they are not unlocked through using a bulkhead door control with a key

[burnt inlet]

Ur in the zone?

[civic wave]

r5a2 overload is one of those

[burnt inlet]

^ this but was lazy so didn’t type

[azure narwhal]

ye just found it

[burnt inlet]

W’s

[civic wave]

when you unlock the door you'll get a pop up communication on your screen for it

(||it's when you pick up the cargo||)

[burnt inlet]

Enter the door with the funi skull on it (forgor if it actually pings it for now)

You don’t need objective item when you go into door btw

Can leave and grab after

[azure narwhal]

MOMMY KILLED ME

[burnt inlet]

😭🙏

Welcome to GTFO

anyways

Funi enemy

[azure narwhal]

thanks for showing me mommy

+snatcher

[burnt inlet]

||Farts|| on u too

[azure narwhal]

what

[burnt inlet]

That was just a bonus, if I didn’t ask if it was doable with bots I wouldn’t have known either of those lol

[burnt inlet]

I’ll send a clip in media

[azure narwhal]

how to kill mommy?

just rush her and spam shotgun?

[burnt inlet]

Scattergun

[burnt inlet]

Yea kinda, if you have a foam nade she gets fully foamed, if you have foam launcher she needs two full to get foamed

[azure narwhal]

theres no cream nade in the lvl tho?

[burnt inlet]

I remember my first mum kill, I creamed her up nice and well and unloaded on her tumors

[burnt inlet]

Then rush or deal with babies then rush

(I did the latter)

Oh also

You need to hit her tumors

Not her body

[azure narwhal]

doesnt she spam the babies

[azure narwhal]

yyeye

the glocken

[burnt inlet]

Nah she spams like 25 or sum

Which is why hel shotty is good since it can penetrate

[azure narwhal]

if a baby wave isnt cleared does she spawn more?

[burnt inlet]

And it actually kills babies at range

[burnt inlet]

Uhhhhhhhhhhhh I’ve never had that problem before

[azure narwhal]

im playing hel shot and scatter

[burnt inlet]

But today I took like maybe 10-20 seconds with baby and then like 30-60 seconds on her

So you have time

[burnt inlet]

Scatter is goated to spam into her tumors

[azure narwhal]

yee i figured, is the loadout good?

in total?

like going double shotgun

[burnt inlet]

I think she’s a two shot if you’re perfect but when she’s moving she’s hard to hit perfectly

[azure narwhal]

WHAT

[burnt inlet]

If you have other people running other wave clears/whatever it’s fine

[burnt inlet]

Think is key word (scatter is OP af)

But that’s like

All pellets hit

And it’s unrealistic on a non sleeping mother

[azure narwhal]

should all my friends run double shotgun?

[burnt inlet]

Nop

Id say only one out of a squad should

Also don’t forget you can scatter the dog (if he doesn’t kidnap you lol)

[azure narwhal]

im not gonna do dog again

the dog did nothing

[burnt inlet]

Arguments to be made that the rest could do sawed off

[burnt inlet]

I did it cuz it’s 100% completion of the level but I get ya

Ima do every level 100%

Also isn’t it really late for u?

[azure narwhal]

shhh

[burnt inlet]

😭🙏

I could just imagine the ”scheise” when babies showed up

[azure narwhal]

xDD i think i clipped it maybe maybe i can send later when im done

[burnt inlet]

Also when the dog came I got so scared cuz it’s one singular guy who broked down a foamed door instantly

[burnt inlet]

W’s

Usually when it’s one guy it’s a difficult one but this wasn’t that bad

[azure narwhal]

we gon try again now

[burnt inlet]

W’s

Anyways have fun ima go to bed cuz I need sleep lol

Was supposed to be asleep 4 hours ago

[azure narwhal]

do we get 3 cosmetics for doing main, sec and overload?

[burnt inlet]

Nah, I’m actually not sure if does anything special

@digital mural could you plz explain why we do ?

[azure narwhal]

somebody else said its just a honor badge

[burnt inlet]

Might just be that then

100% stuff idk

I just do it cuz I wanna have like only 100% clears

🤷‍♂️

[azure narwhal]

do i have the lights on if i dont do secondary

[burnt inlet]

But I’ve also not gotten the tutorial achievement yet

[burnt inlet]

I believe so

[digital mural]

No

Doing optionals is just for flexing

And steam achievements

[crystal blaze]

I flex for my babe, A2Assword!

[frigid obsidian]

What are some of your favorite weapon choices? I'm trying to figure out what I should use, as sticking to the base pistol has been going fine but, it feels like I'm missing out.

[sudden nexus]

sawed off shotgun

hel gun

scattergun

[ocean spindle]

dmr hel shottie is based, i like doubletarifle :3
on specials hel gun and stuff are pogchamp

[digital mural]

Hel pistol + combat shotgun

The fuck everything in a 5m radius of me loadout

[frigid obsidian]

Ooh alright, yeah I'll give these a shot! Right now I'm trying out the DMR, it seems really solid

I really disliked the SMG

[digital mural]

Autos in this game are overall weak

Really weak compared to everything else

[sudden nexus]

combat shotgun :c

[digital mural]

Hel shotgun

[ocean spindle]

:[

[sudden nexus]

love my auto shotguns

[ocean spindle]

the autos might be weak but i like playing them

i did an ar r1c1 run and :]

happy

[digital mural]

even BP?

[ocean spindle]

what part of "the autos"

[sudden nexus]

bp my beloved

[ocean spindle]

[its fine but i dont pick it since a long time :3]

[digital mural]

BP or BP?

[sudden nexus]

bp duh

[ocean spindle]

what about PB

[sudden nexus]

and j...........

[ocean spindle]

pistol burst, shoots 2 pistols per burst+

[digital mural]

Bust pistol

[frigid obsidian]

Is the damage the same between the burst pistol and the regular pistol? It felt like it was worse last time I tried it, though if it's the same then that's just a skill issue on my part

[sudden nexus]

putting the piss back into burst pistol

[ocean spindle]

its about the same tbh, bp kills in two bursts if u do one of those in the head, but doing so its kinda hard

and also probs affected by client host idk

or maybe not

but even so the normal pistols still better being a 3 shots with a headshot

[frigid obsidian]

Good to know! Well, I'll give more of the semi-autos a shot, is there pretty much no exception to the autos < semis rule?

[ocean spindle]

hel autopistols pretty good, hel shotguns very very based
thatsss about it, well pdw but moreso out of the thermal, not cuz it is a good weapon

but the thermal can be useful

[frigid obsidian]

Cool alright! I'll get testing to see what I like, thank you!

[ocean spindle]

okee :]
experimenting is part of the fun funs

[stuck ravine]

what are we defining as autos? all automatic weapons? or just the ARs

[ocean spindle]

well barrin stuff like hel shottie or autopiss, all autos

talking about mains

[stuck ravine]

i like the heavy smg c:

[void kestrel]

its ok

[stuck ravine]

carbine felt pretty nice for r1c1 tbh (or whichever level was the reactor startup one

i still have yet to try most of the guns

[void kestrel]

hel

[stuck ravine]

hel rifle felt good for big guys

[ocean spindle]

itss about the best auto ksdmkm

:3

[stuck ravine]

small mag size did not feel great tho

[ocean spindle]

hel rifle- well but 5 pen

it slike

poghchamp

[stuck ravine]

yeee

[digital mural]

Yep

[void kestrel]

autopistol tho

[grizzled patrol]

Hel gun is basically Hel rifle with half the damage but Double the ammo

[fathom ice]

isn't the reload without cancel is ass

it's slower

by .1

[frail heart]

reload cancel on hel gun is good

[fathom ice]

yea

1.5 vs 2.2

[azure narwhal]

is this a good strat for the mommy if you're bad at the game?:

Restart until the cream grenade is in the level (just list foam)
Place a sentry at the door that looks into the hallway.
Then use the cream launcher to apply cream to everything directly at the entrance so that all the babies there get stuck.

Now we chill around the corner (outside the mother's room) and kill the first wave of babies and everything that spawns from the alarm in the background. Meanwhile, we just wait until the mother comes out; she doesn't spawn anything new in the meantime anyway (as long as none of us run infront of the doors entrance to get line of sight with her).

As soon as she's outside, the guy with the cream grenade throws the grenade at her (please don't miss 🙏🏾 --> so it's best to wait until she stops and wants to spawn) and then we can dump everything on her.

Next step: prematurely rejoice that she's gone before we even complete the whole level.
Penultimate step: complete the objective inside (I think you have to get something out of there).
Final step: go to the extraction point, or whatever glows green through the walls.

[grizzled patrol]

"cream"

[burnt inlet]

”Restart until” no

Also you can’t list foam nades

Only packs and objective items

[azure narwhal]

waiiit really??

[burnt inlet]

Yep…

[azure narwhal]

damnn

[burnt inlet]

Tbh I’d rather cream the mom rather than the babies

[azure narwhal]

for the mom we would use the nade

[burnt inlet]

Oh ye that’s good uhhhh

[grizzled patrol]

Just Camp outside the door and clear all Babies, then as a Team Rush the Mom. If You have a scatter, Just 2 Tap it. If you dont have it, then have someone with high RPM or pen guns clear the Babies while the Rest either melee or Shoot her

[errant dome]

you cant list consumables, c-foam nades, tripmines, etc

[burnt inlet]

Babies you might be able to do without foam

[frail heart]

scattergun

[azure narwhal]

im running hel shot + scatter

[safe cradle]

Either Scattergun or HEL Shotty+CS combo to kill the babies when they're born

[azure narwhal]

how am i gonna find glowsticks 😭

[safe cradle]

HEL Shotty+CS you spawnkill basically every baby

[azure narwhal]

just to make sure i thought

[safe cradle]

Scattergunning is the way to go tbh

[errant dome]

hel shotty can kill baby waves by itself, scattergun can kill mom before she even births at all

[frail heart]

then shoot her

[azure narwhal]

counter strike?

[safe cradle]

Combat Shotgun

[errant dome]

combat shotgun

[burnt inlet]

Lol

[azure narwhal]

aaah

[errant dome]

trust me you'll have no issue finding them :p

they're everywhere

[azure narwhal]

unfortunately true

[azure narwhal]

but isnt scatter way better for this fight

[errant dome]

most useless item in the game goes crazy

[safe cradle]

It is which in fact I told you at the start

[azure narwhal]

yesterday i read online that bots dont even pick it up

which i thought is funny

[burnt inlet]

Me: opens a box with lock expecting some actual loot
The evil lootmaster: tripple glowsticks

[safe cradle]

But if you dont trust your scattergun

[azure narwhal]

yeye

[safe cradle]

You can spawnkill the babies

[burnt inlet]

They do it just almost never happens

[safe cradle]

You can doubletap scattergun a mom if you're client

[fathom ice]

team convo should've ended on 'i have hel shotty + scatter'

[safe cradle]

but as host you can sawn off+scatter anyway

[azure narwhal]

we already talked about loadout in our chat

[fathom ice]

ur loadout kills pmom

without taking damage

even if she births twice

which is unrealistic

[burnt inlet]

||Regular mom isn’t it?||

[azure narwhal]

dont i have to reload way too often with sawed off

[fathom ice]

both

[azure narwhal]

theres another mom???

[fathom ice]

hel shotty clears pmom babies

[burnt inlet]

…

Sky

[errant dome]

i mean babies can be a bit scuffed sometimes depending on where she decides 2 spawn

[fathom ice]

i mean

if it's in something then yea

otherwise it's aight

[burnt inlet]

Yanno sometimes you shouldn’t spoil some enemies lol

[errant dome]

yep

[azure narwhal]

okay yall saying we can just rush and insta kill?
isnt it way safer to just camp outside with the cream nade?

[safe cradle]

Scatterfun host nearly kills mom, you just tap her a couple of times with sawn off after

I'm also assuming you're not soloing

[burnt inlet]

Runs cream nade her and scatter if you wanna be safe safe

[errant dome]

you kill everything else then rush mom

[burnt inlet]

Otherwise you can just scatter

[azure narwhal]

3 sometimes 4 people

[errant dome]

its uber free with scatter

[safe cradle]

Problem of playing GTFO that safely is that at some point the game wants the training wheels off

[fathom ice]

if ure really struggling

just let someone shoot babies

[burnt inlet]

Even with hel rifle wasn’t that bad

[fathom ice]

while she births

[azure narwhal]

im scared of mommy 🥺
im waiting till she picks me up outside

[errant dome]

i mean you can wait if you really want 2 but frankly its not that much safer than just rushing mom after everything is dead

[azure narwhal]

no yet ‼️

[azure narwhal]

she was so fast im just scared that she runs at the speed of light to the other corner of the room spawns 3 gigazillion baby gollums and we die

[fathom ice]

she's not moving while she births

[azure narwhal]

ye but that she moves away and is far enough away to birth

[ocean spindle]

if u choose to just camp outside u can wait till shee gets close enough, stayin near the walls to avoid LOS

and just have the sentries on thee bridge dealin with the error

[azure narwhal]

ye thats what im thinking

[ocean spindle]

cuz the erros one enemy per wave

[safe cradle]

What map are you talking about exactly?

I was thinking R3B2 or whatnot

R4D1?

[ocean spindle]

its r5a2

[azure narwhal]

good call
R5A2

shouldve said that actually

[safe cradle]

Ah, either camp out the bulkhead door or camp on the staircase up to the left

that room has babies inside ALREADY

so you'll deal with the babies inside+the ones the mom spawns

[azure narwhal]

yeah thats why we wanna cream the entrance even if we dont have los

[safe cradle]

hence rushing here is perhaps more troublesome than other scenario

since she instantly wakes up after like 3 secs of opening door

[safe cradle]

I'd just execution platoon over there tbh

[azure narwhal]

gesundheit

[fathom ice]

oya that mom is cooked

u just shoot outside bhk door

[safe cradle]

HEL Shotty, Veruta, HEL PP, CS all that stuff can deal with babies fine

[fathom ice]

while someone shoots 3 error guys

[safe cradle]

Remember just one thing

The donut zone is cocoon

[azure narwhal]

oh the respawning enemies?

[safe cradle]

so if everyone got in the cargo room

re-clear that zone before opening bulkhead door

[safe cradle]

yes

[azure narwhal]

wont they respawn AGAIN after?

[safe cradle]

it's like 10 enemies or whatever but better kill them before

[safe cradle]

Enemies only respawn if all players are 2 rooms and 1 zone away from the cocoon room

[azure narwhal]

ooooh

[safe cradle]

being in an adjacent room prevents them from respawning

but if you all got into cargo zone that's 2 zones 2 rooms away

[azure narwhal]

mhmmhm

thanks for the infos

(and spoilers xD)

i also spoilered myself yesterday looking at the wiki of mommy and seeing on the left side a ||KRAKEN||, like WTF is that kind of final boss or sum (did not click on it but im scared of whats to come(probably in R10Z4 anyways but ehh))

[safe cradle]

I mean it's hard not to spoil since the game has been out for sooooo long

kinda like not spoilering The Fifth Sense ending

But I get what you mean

[azure narwhal]

yee im not taking it harshly anyways, i dont care THAT MUCH about spoilers, like now all i know is that there is another mom which i assume is even stronger but i still have no idea what it does

spawns more moms

_ _

[ocean spindle]

nah nah thats decoration

u just haven been to r6a1

[azure narwhal]

yuh

[ocean spindle]

...
how the hwll u saw an image if the wiki doesnt show anything ksdmkm+

are u going to fandom?

[[Mother]]

[gray rapids]

https://gtfo.wiki.gg/wiki/Mother

[frail heart]

fandom is the first one that shows up on google

so probably

[ocean spindle]

:[

[tardy ingot]

Me being happy about finding lrf in r8c2

[ocean spindle]

not gaming

[azure narwhal]

image? of what? the ||kraken||? on the left side it gives you recommendations as to what else you can click on, and one of those were that thing

[azure narwhal]

oh yeah that must be it

[ocean spindle]

i rememebs when i was duoing with dak that level i had an "aha!" moment and i just took the cell early before we had looted, and the whole time he was like "what the fuck are u doing?!"

and then the lights came on

and it was like "... oh"

[tardy ingot]

Cfoam grenade*

Also banking on foam spawning is unnecessary. And youll have to learn how to deal with mom without it anyway
(Not that it is hard since we have client scatter)

[ocean spindle]

c r e a m

[tardy ingot]

No? lol

[azure narwhal]

i prefer to cream on the mom

[fathom ice]

it's 3

iirc

[ocean spindle]

is it not
well nother thing to fix on the wiki

[azure narwhal]

i guess cream launcher will do the job nicely aswell

[fathom ice]

it doesn't change much

[azure narwhal]

but if i find the nade im using it

[ocean spindle]

thee launcher cant do it in one go

[tardy ingot]

Yus

[ocean spindle]

it needs 2 full charges

[tardy ingot]

Not rly

[azure narwhal]

does it not even slow it down?

[ocean spindle]

do u know 3 every how many seconds?

[ocean spindle]

nopes

foam only works by freezing the enemy when it reaches its cap

[tardy ingot]

Foam doesnt slow enemies

[ocean spindle]

it doesnt slow down anything until it is literally frozen

[tardy ingot]

It either freezes if enough is applied or does nothing

[azure narwhal]

oh okay, always felt like it even if they dont get stuck in the hardened cream

good to know

[burnt inlet]

Goated item

[frail heart]

bro who writes this shit

never been in the level

[ocean spindle]

yees

idk

[safe cradle]

you now remember that guy who wrote that guide about R1B1 and it was full of extremely wrong shit

like open DOOR_781 or whatnot as if door numbers weren't randomized

[frail heart]

lmaoooo

[civic wave]

the one for an obscure website that no-one has heard of?

and i was like "you know, i thought someone making a guide would know how the level generation works" because he had to ask to make sure if the objective got randomised or whatever

[fathom ice]

💀

[frail heart]

i remember the guy

like

even now for me at least some levels i would hesistate to make a guide on

cause i feel like i dont know them super well

though i would do one on like r3d1 or r4e1 or smth

[tardy ingot]

Wasnt it also for an achievement?

[fathom ice]

it was

[tardy ingot]

I feel like most achievements in this game are rly just „play the game“ or „once youve beaten a bit of the game, youll know how to do it“

Like I dont get beginners going for achievement runs

[fathom ice]

don't get downed was it

[fathom ice]

^

[tardy ingot]

And well

For level guides

We have scaler

Say what you want about him
The guides are generally very helpful, even if theres some out of date stuff

[errant dome]

sniper for r7e1 :p

but yes i agree

[tardy ingot]

that is straight just due to updates

theres also at the time unknown info (r7d2 hold)

[fathom ice]

why'd u bring pre nerf sniper tho

[tardy ingot]

or shotgun sentry (m

[tardy ingot]

Because it was top 2 boss kill lol

[fathom ice]

ooh

[tardy ingot]

It was either sniper or choke mod for tanks

Shotgun as a 3rd choice

[safe cradle]

per nerf sniper was good

r6 sniper was borked

[tardy ingot]

6 per refill when choke mod didnt even have 8 was crazy

Then it was nerfed to 3.6

[safe cradle]

it tells you a lot that those numbers are all around

[tardy ingot]

then up to 3.91

[safe cradle]

stuff gets nerfed to slightly more than half or whatever

really gets you the idea that the devs didnt have a clear idea of what does what and why something is stronger/weaker than it should

[tardy ingot]

I mean 3.6 was somewhat balanced

[safe cradle]

To which you might say that I'm being too harsh about it

[tardy ingot]

in the weaker R7 environment

it only stood out with the return of burst cannon

[errant dome]

i mean my point is just that its outdated lul, not blaming him for bad take or anythin like that

[tardy ingot]

Its just funny cuz scaler did have some funny stuff in the guides sometimes. But getting trolled by the balance on top of guns being readded is funny

[safe cradle]

I still remember his OG R4D1 guide having a cheesespot

I mean it wasn't huge because it only worked against babies

but still

[frail heart]

most guides a decent for beginners

I guess a remake for some of the guides would be good

He probably does care that much

Maybe ill be the next guide maker 😈

[topaz anvil]

does the r5a2 baby cheese spot still work?

[frail heart]

why tf would you need a cheese spot for r5a2

[topaz anvil]

im just wondering if it still works

[tardy ingot]

There are cheese spots for r6a1

lol

[errant dome]

if you look hard enough im sure you can find a cheese spot for every lvl

[topaz anvil]

lfg long modded levels

[stuck ravine]

i see..

[knotty relic]

Isn’t there kind of a lot of space for the babies? Isn’t that the one where the Mother wakes right in front of the Sec bulkhead?

[topaz anvil]

ye

but there was a spot where you could sit on the otherside of the wall and no baby would hit you

[knotty relic]

Oh crazy

[knotty relic]

We died there the first time to the mother cause we were fucking around real bad and didn’t think about what was in there (I don’t think any other bulkhead door wakes up upon opening before that) so we were just talking shit and shooting sleepers. Then we heard the noise and were overwhelmed in like 2 seconds lol

Actually I don’t remember if it wakes up by itself. It probably just heard our shots and is close to the door.

[topaz anvil]

it is auto wake

[knotty relic]

Okie 🫡

[azure narwhal]

if i break a limb of a giant during his stagger, does he stagger immediately again or do i have to wait for his first stagger to end? specifically when fighting melee

[ocean spindle]

only soft stagger has a cooldown, if u break a limb one after the eother itll reset his stagger

at least i believe sp

now im doubting mysel ngl

[azure narwhal]

haha

im sure you right

[bronze halo]

\

oops sorry

[azure narwhal]

i love your status

[bronze halo]

why what part?

ooh

ye true

[azure narwhal]

🫡live, laugh, die 500 times to the same bossfight.

[azure narwhal]

i find it quite funny and relateable

[bronze halo]

its true tho

[azure narwhal]

yes

[bronze halo]

ooh i cant send screenies

[topaz anvil]

post it in #gtfo-spoiler-chat or #gtfo-media

[bronze halo]

well my question is i just beat r2 but i cant get the achievement

[frail heart]

what achievement

[bronze halo]

nvm

sorry it just popped up when i restarted the game for the 5th time

[topaz anvil]

xd

[ocean spindle]

[azure narwhal]

i also confused when i didnt get the achievement for my first scout melee kill, but i got it after the level ended (i thought i would get it immediately upon killing),, atleast i didnt have to restart

[bronze halo]

insane 121 hours in gtfo r1+2+3 cleared

[topaz anvil]

5 more to go, only gets longer from here

[azure narwhal]

whos yalls fav bot

for me its either hacket or bishop

dauda always shoots me

[topaz anvil]

bishop is always the best hands down

[azure narwhal]

and woods is also kinda cool

[burnt inlet]

bishop if you wanna be lore wise, hacket cuz hands off thingy

[frail heart]

none

[azure narwhal]

whats "hands off thingy" mean

[burnt inlet]

well

automod is ruining that line

[frail heart]

hands off cocks

[azure narwhal]

chicken jockey bot when?

[burnt inlet]

bruh

wat

[ocean spindle]

dauda is unapreciated but the funny nigerian psychopharmacologist dude deserves love

[burnt inlet]

cocks are allowed

but not the singular form

[azure narwhal]

all my homies hate dauda

[ocean spindle]

skill issue

he will lab on u

[burnt inlet]

the reason why moms exists

[azure narwhal]

we always make sure he isnt in the lobby

i think woods has the best aim

actually cracked

has some kind of shooter background

[ocean spindle]

he was a militar men but like so was hackett

[azure narwhal]

hacket is really brave tho

[ocean spindle]

hackett the silly goose

[azure narwhal]

is there actual lore to the bots or did you make that up

[ocean spindle]

not the bots the characters

dauda is actualy a nigerian pyschopharmacologist

[burnt inlet]

the characters have a lot of lore

[azure narwhal]

aaah interesting

[ocean spindle]

if u only had looked at logs on r5a2 :3

[azure narwhal]

thats actually a rare moment for me that im gonna care about lore

only look at logs for passwords

or if im playing clash royale

[frail heart]

look at r2b2 lore log

[ocean spindle]

maybe r5a3 fools u on that

[burnt inlet]

bishop blackmailed wrong person, i think hacket or woods torched a village

[azure narwhal]

damn hacket and woods cool af

[digital mural]

#gtfo-lore make sure to read the lore for dummies doc in pinned messages

[ocean spindle]

hackett when

[digital mural]

It doesn't has spoilers and it's made to explain the world of GTFO

[azure narwhal]

okok

[burnt inlet]

plus frostty needs some more work lol

[topaz anvil]

hop on gtfo?

[digital mural]

Hop on deez

[burnt inlet]

ya no this is a boring level lol

[ocean spindle]

[topaz anvil]

time to download r2modman

[burnt inlet]

i have it already

[topaz anvil]

time to download madness and rule 7 my vc

[azure narwhal]

what does the "ALT://" mean and why doesnt it say that for every rundown?

is that a lore reason or does it actually tell me something useful

[topaz anvil]

alt rundowns are re-released rundowns from the past with slight changes and technically a different story

[ocean spindle]

soo this game used to work like fortnite seasons
when Rundown 2 came out, it replaced Rundown 1, Rundown 3 replaced Rundown 2 and so on, everytime a new rundown came the old one got eliminated
on Rundown 7 tho, the devs decided to bring the old rundowns back, and they did it the ALT://Rundowns, the old rundowns but slightly changed and optimized

[azure narwhal]

aaah okay thanks

[uneven kiln]

For R7E1 how often have runs bugged ||the Immortal’s animations and or pathfinding, this is awful not being able tell where it is||

[ocean spindle]

depends onnn the type, cuz its rlly easy to but its pathfinding and get it stuck somewhere willingly, making it easier

as for its animations well sometimes its slides but thats every enemy and it doesnt rlly matter, same for its bugged ladder anims

[uneven kiln]

sometimes it’s bugged immediately and other times before even first alarm or afterwards

Haven’t had it go up/down a ladder

This seems like an exceptional case

[ocean spindle]

but like bugged how tho, cuz theres many ways

[uneven kiln]

footstep audio permanently muted so you can’t tell where it is at all

But otherwise sliding

And it seems to bug whenever I’m not looking at it specifically

Gotten it several times now on solo runs

[ocean spindle]

ii heeard the footsteps be incosistent sort of yes

idk if muted perma but at least to some extend

[uneven kiln]

this isn’t just inconsistent— it’s perma muted and sliding so you can’t tell any of the attacking visual cues anymore or where it is

definitely feels unintended

[civic wave]

could be something to do with host animation cull? sliding around isn't a new thing

nor is the footsteps being quiet

could also be tied to audio culling (which is based on FOV)

[uneven kiln]

That’s what I’m thinking, related to host animation/audio cull. I have a relatively high FOV though

I ran around for like 5 minutes afterwards and it never fixed itself

[ocean spindle]

damn

[frail heart]

wdym

exactly

[uneven kiln]

Intended behavior feels like the footsteps should be those thunderous ones. I’ve had the anims break completely and it goes silent the rest of the run except on roars or tongue attacks

[frail heart]

wdym anims break

[uneven kiln]

it's stuck in an idle pose permanently, but still moves around and attacks as normal

[frail heart]

do you have a vid?

[tardy ingot]

Pablo having no walking animation and just sliding everywhere with often no sounds

[frail heart]

how does it affect gameplay in a significant way tho?

[tardy ingot]

Pablo is silent
Pablo sneaks up on people

[frail heart]

but like in the section that hes actually there you have eyes on him the whole time

[uneven kiln]

I do but I am using cconsole in the footage because I was deliberately trying to reproduce it and wanted to see if there were any immediately obvious errors in cconsole and there weren’t. I do have vanilla footage where it happened that I haven’t trimmed yet but I’m out and about for awhile

And EVA has experienced it too it looks like with that. It’s troublesome during the Class V Sustain Mixed alarm if pablo breaks that early, and there’s no way to tell where he is unless someone has direct eyes on him, and it really screwed over a duo attempt I had where he charged really fast silently around a corner underneath the catwalks and we had no idea he was that close. It’s a little inconsistent, but one he breaks, he sure seems to stay that way

[safe cradle]

@azure narwhal You made me want to play R5A2 again btw

[azure narwhal]

dew it

[ocean spindle]

its pretty based

[safe cradle]

doing it

[azure narwhal]

yeah i cant wait to see more of those dog dudes, really wanna see the snatching in action,,, i didn see it because we killed it too quickly haha

[azure narwhal]

good boy

[ocean spindle]

w w

wuh

[runic roost]

error alarm stops

[burnt inlet]

chat how often do ||respawn rooms respawn?||

[civic wave]

truth be told - even without audio it is very easy to tell where pablo is by gamesense alone

[ocean spindle]

as soon as players r 2 rooms away, in a different zone

[ashen frigate]

Is it two rooms away AND in a different zone ?
Maybe such information could be added to https://gtfo.wiki.gg/wiki/Cocoon

[uneven kiln]

It just sucks a bit not having any kind of cues, as he seems to charge more than tanks do, and for an enemy you have to kite a lot especially at the blood door, being silent is nasty

Two rooms away, different zone, no current LOS and there’s a timer before they are allowed to respawn is how I understand based on the cconsole output

[ashen frigate]

The timer is rather short though, if I remember correctly

[sturdy glen]

timer is set manually in datablocks iirc

[uneven kiln]

Exemptions exist too, such as not respawning every enemy or certain enemies such as scouts

R5A1 doesn’t respawn every small

[ashen frigate]

Manually meaning "for each expedition" ?

[sturdy glen]

each zone

has a value "EnemyRespawnTimeInterval"

[ocean spindle]

fuck

[ashen frigate]

Sounds like a hassle

[sturdy glen]

base time is 10 seconds I think?

lemme check a level that actually uses respawn

[ocean spindle]

all of r5 skdmkms

[uneven kiln]

R5E1 doesn’t have cocoons

[ocean spindle]

FUCK

[sturdy glen]

checked r5d1 and r7e1 both are 10 seconds

seems pretty standard

and from what ive been told this timer is always running

rather than being as soon as the respawn condition is met

[ocean spindle]

wdym always runnin

so just like as soon as u r 2 rooms away and in another zone is instant?

[sturdy glen]

no like

it just checks every 10 seconds

[ocean spindle]

oh

[sturdy glen]

if the condition is met in a room, itll respawn it

its not 10 seconds after the condition is met

[ocean spindle]

that seems, funky but idk coding to judge it

[sturdy glen]

I cant wait for this all to be misinfo and these are unused datablock values

[ocean spindle]

lets gooo 🔥 🔥

[frail heart]

tanks are generally more aggressive

[uneven kiln]

Is the first tank in R4E1 an exception?

That one has been randomly an extremely docile one

[errant dome]

ya, if your 3 rooms away but same zone enemies wont respawn

[errant dome]

wdym

[prime musk]

it just has a tendency to sometimes afk when spawned, and it isn't just that tank but every tank that spawns in (rather than being a room enemy)

[frail heart]

^

[errant dome]

tanks like 2 afk its their thing

[past mesa]

I love my tanks docile

And breedable

[frail heart]

be the chicken to my jockey

[past mesa]

What is ghostlymires issue

About the tank

I can’t read

And wish to help

[frail heart]

uhhhh tank doesnt make sound

and does the cha cha slide

[past mesa]

Just audio culling

Unfo

Cha cha slide is another animation issue but idk what causes it

[sturdy glen]

after a recent experience idk if I can complain about audio culling in current game anymore

[frail heart]

jish you seem to be culling a lot of bitches

[past mesa]

I think one way you can cull audio is there is only so many sounds the game is allowed to make at once

if you go over that limit those sounds will be silent

[sturdy glen]

that would make sense

[past mesa]

Idk if it is a pre frame or update or global though

[frail heart]

this is what causes audio bug right

[past mesa]

Audio bug happens because these sounds don’t get cleaned up

[frail heart]

yeah

[past mesa]

But mg players get audio bug

[frail heart]

imma be real

[past mesa]

Faster

[frail heart]

idk how they mess that up

[past mesa]

Than non mg players

[past mesa]

Sound object that doesn’t get destroyed

[frail heart]

isnt it like

standard practice to do that

[errant dome]

same reason why mags that go through the floor are never cleared up

[past mesa]

yeah but most sounds do get destroyed

It mostly works correctly

[errant dome]

is it specific sounds or is it when there is too many it gets confused

[past mesa]

I think both like we know spitters have the issue

It is also map

Map is bad

[frail heart]

so surely its been in the game since r2

[past mesa]

It hs been in the game since map was able to play audio from that part of the level

[frail heart]

damn

[errant dome]

man i love spitters

[frail heart]

lets hope den of spitters doesnt have the bug

[past mesa]

But also 4 mgs will sound bug you faster

Btw

[past mesa]

What does it say

[frail heart]

uhhhh

[errant dome]

crazy, but makes sense i suppose

[past mesa]

Are you glazing mg more than me

[errant dome]

frosty strongest mg hater

[past mesa]

Finally

[uneven kiln]

I figured this would occur; though in my case with Pablo, there shouldn’t be too many sounds active and he has broken immediately sometimes, pre-first alarm, and post-first alarm but pre-blood door to just go silent and cha cha slide

And then only makes noise when roaring once a minute or so, or the tongue

[past mesa]

That sounds like an animation issue

[uneven kiln]

Yeah, one of the “hop on GTFO” gifs on tenor actually shows it off

So I presume it’s just something that’s been in the game since R7 and I wondered if on speedruns (or just in general) how often it’s happened other others and if he just stays borked

[past mesa]

We like don’t interact with Pablo most of the time

He is perma stuck or we are sending and if he is there gg reset next time

[uneven kiln]

Oh, OK. So his pathfinding is goofy as well

[fathom spade]

Hi guys. I havent been here for some time now and forgot some stuff. How do I create vc for games rn? Do I join Create team and it will give me a vc with inv code or wat?

[digital mural]

Join create team of X
Discord will move you to your own VC
Click on the VC name and create invite

[fathom spade]

Ty ❤️

[soft crater]

.t lfg

[uneven gulch]

Hello! If you are unaware, we have Looking For Group (LFG) channels to help users group up and play the game. They are located here: #lfg-north-america / #lfg-latin-america / #lfg-eastern-europe / #lfg-western-europe / #lfg-asia / #lfg-oceania / #lfg-africa / #lfg-beginners / #lfg-middle-east.

If you are unsure of how to create or join a lobby, please see the instructions here: #how-to-matchmake.

[oak solstice]

What are some of better special weapons? I've used most of them and they seem iffy and I'm just curious what other people think about them and like what others use and find consistent

[void kestrel]

Anything Hel, scatter

[civic wave]

hel gun/rifle and scattergun are absolutely insane, burst cannon is just behind those 3

[void kestrel]

Revolver and precision rifle are good situationally

High cal is good too

[civic wave]

past that there's some generally good picks, like combat shotgun, shotgun, and high cal pistol

[oak solstice]

I tried the scatter gun and it had barely any ammo

[civic wave]

it has a lot of ammo

[oak solstice]

Wait, is there a difference between the revolver and high cal?

[civic wave]

though for less experienced players it wouldn't feel as such

[oak solstice]

I am definitely not experienced

[void kestrel]

Revolver is great at taking out normal enemies

Headshots

Lots of ammo

[civic wave]

revolver is a fast functioning weapon geared towards killing regular small enemies with headshots, high cal is slower but finds better purchase against all other enemy types vs revolver

[oak solstice]

I haven't tried the high caliber I don't think, I'll try it

[void kestrel]

It's nice for new players

[oak solstice]

Very gud

I hope it pairs well with my bullpup

[void kestrel]

Oeuf

[oak solstice]

Hm?

[void kestrel]

Bullpup is meh

[oak solstice]

It's been really good in my experience

It might be worse in harder levels maybe?

I've also used the heavy smg

[void kestrel]

Heavy smg is better

[oak solstice]

Any others that are good?

I haven't used many of them

[upper ginkgo]

not really a point in using anything else unless you wanna break the monotony of meta weapons

[oak solstice]

I don't really care too much about meta tbh

I'm just curious about what's fun

[void kestrel]

The meta is meta for a reason

It's fun to kill things fast

[oak solstice]

Fair point

Is the heavy smg meta then?

Or are their others?

[civic wave]

no automatic weapon is meta

[oak solstice]

Then what is?

[upper ginkgo]

sawed-off

[civic wave]

sawed off (first pick), hel shotgun (niche pick), hel revo (pushed out of being absolute meta but it is the strongest other option)

then special weapons is hel gun/rifle, scattergun, burst cannon, and sniper can be slotted in as a niche pick sometimes

[oak solstice]

I've never use any of those, I'll have to try them outs

[civic wave]

you will wonder why they're meta, because the game plays uninituitively

[oak solstice]

I never picked them because I figured an automatic rifle would be better

Regardless, thank you all for the advice

[tardy ingot]

As goat said

Theres no real full auto weapon thats meta

Theres weapons that are „full auto“ but are rly just shotguns that are. The best full auto gun is hel auto pistol, which is very stagger focused and still a step down from the top 3 mains

[oak solstice]

Good to knows

[void kestrel]

I been having fun with double revolvers

You can use other weapons if you want to, good aim makes up for a multitude of sins

It's more about not using the bad weapons than using the good ones

Certain bad weapons are just gonna hinder ammo usage for your team

[undone sparrow]

have about 4 hours in the game so far, whats the point of r1b2? does it unlock and sort of progression to make r1c1 easier? my friends and i tried c1 and it seemed to be too hard

[void kestrel]

Nope it's just another mission

[undone sparrow]

why does it exist?

is it easier than c1?

[void kestrel]

Depends

It's just another level like all the other ones

R2 goes up to A4 and B4

Some have extra lore

[undone sparrow]

is double tap rifle ass? what about precision rifle

[tardy ingot]

Yes

It is the 2nd B-tier level
B being simply a nominator for order in lore for the rundown aswell as difficulty

[digital mural]

DTR and PR are good guns if you can hit your shots

[void kestrel]

PR shots are very easy to hit

DTR not so much

[frigid obsidian]

I apologize to burst pistol users, I thought it was a downgrade, but I did not realize that it hip-fires with insane accuracy. Waves for me just got so much easier.
Are there any other primaries with really good hip-fire?

Having this much mobility and FoV feels great, even if it's just psychological. Once I stop trying to aim down sights anyways

[pallid fern]

What if...I say

Nuh uh

Ha HA

[frigid obsidian]

Hey, fair enough! I've seen a little hip-firing with the HEL revolver but, I don't think that gun is quite for me. I like it, but, skill issue. I feel like there's less room to recover from missed shots with it.

I have a feeling it's not an intended playstyle, just running around with a pistol, but it feels good.

[pallid fern]

007 style

[ocean spindle]

uh pdw, the shotguns obv and idk slug but slug also kinda sucks

[minor fractal]

Sawed-off

[ocean spindle]

hel shotgun hipfire grahhh

🔥

[frigid obsidian]

I still gotta try that thing, I'm a bit hesitant as I know shotguns don't have great ammo economy

[ocean spindle]

they do- ammo is tbh not much of a stat to be worried about, as long as u hit ur shots u don't tend to suffer ammo issues

there's rlly only like 2 3 guns that do have ammo issues

[minor fractal]

The Main shotguns have very good eco for their slot

[ocean spindle]

and one of them is a sniper

and it's not a real ammo issue it's a balancing issue

[minor fractal]

HEL Shotgun is itself an eco weapon

[frigid obsidian]

Huh, alright! Yeah, I tend to run the sniper in my special slot, struggled with hybrids one too many times...

It's probably why I think ammo is scarce, that and the scattergun.

[neon gust]

Bullpup it's a good weapon guys

[frail heart]

best in slot

[umbral elbow]

What are people's thoughts on the sniper rifle? I tried it out and it was pretty snazzy oneshotting bigs, although I do worry about having a special that is kind of exclusively dedicated to that with such a monstrous reload and small clip!

(No spoilers please :) )

[frail heart]

Its not a very good gun, but has its niche uses

And those niche uses arent really things beginners take advantage of

its a pretty D tier weapon

[umbral elbow]

What are the niche uses?

[frail heart]

it is the best hybrid kill in the game

and ||kraken||

[neon gust]

No spoilers

[frail heart]

it has its spot in some speedruns

oh true mb

[neon gust]

Proceed to say a spoiler

[frail heart]

lets hope he didnt see that

dawg ive been up for 21 hours

[neon gust]

Dumbass of the year

[frail heart]

im cooked af rn

[umbral elbow]

I did not!

[neon gust]

Good

[frail heart]

huge

[umbral elbow]

I was reading up, ehehe

I know there are some big and silly enemies like tanks and moms and stuff

and really silly ones like pmoms

But know basically nothing about them

[frail heart]

Yeah sniper isnt good at killing any of those really

pmom kinda

[umbral elbow]

Using it for hybrid kills has been the primary thing I've been doing

And giants in general

I haven't tried it much and I am not sure how I feel about it yet!

[frail heart]

realistically something like burst cannon or hel rifle just does the job better on most levels while giving some versatility

sniper has absolutely no wave clear

[umbral elbow]

Yeah I'd imagine you'd really need a solid and versatile primary with it

On that topic - what sort of "roles" are on a team, weapon wise?

[frail heart]

not really

a main cant pull its weight

[frail heart]

wave clear and big/boss kill

[umbral elbow]

It's a game where your special is your primary basically?

[frail heart]

thats pretty much it

[umbral elbow]

Ah ok

Basically "do you take a scattergun or not" type stuff

[frail heart]

and the answer is always yes

[minor fractal]

^

[umbral elbow]

The scattergun seems nifty! Although I'm a bit confused why people say it's amazing and the sniper isn't - they seem to have similar types of niches?

Just one tapping big stuff

Scattergun being a bit more versatile but needing to be in kissing range and more forgiving on shots

[minor fractal]

Scatter has broken boss kill as client, and is not even bad at wave clear if you know what you're doing.

[umbral elbow]

Ah so it's something that depends on being client?

[minor fractal]

It is massively overpowered

[frail heart]

its still OP on host

just more on client

it basically is the best boss kill in the game BY FAR and also has wave clear potential

[umbral elbow]

I wonder if the game will ever get another balance pass or not

Wait - why on client specifcally?

[minor fractal]

You might not perfectly two-shot mom as host

Instead only doing reasonable damage

and needing to mag dump sawed-off to still kill w/out birth anyway

[frail heart]

they deal with damage on shotguns differently

[umbral elbow]

I do keep hearing the sawed off is quite silly

[umbral elbow]

They do?!?

[frail heart]

basically making them do more damage to ||tumors||

[umbral elbow]

The spooky,,,

Spooky spoiler, hoho

[frail heart]

its like

mild

[umbral elbow]

I shall resist clicking on it for now

[frail heart]

i didnt want to take the chance

[umbral elbow]

All good all good

[frail heart]

if you know about moms and tanks you probably know about this

[umbral elbow]

Nope! No idea what that is having clicked on it! Ehehehe
Oh unless that first spoiler happens to be ||That big weird worm guy in another dimension or something? Which has the things on them you need to shoot?||

Or ||tumors|| being the ||"weakpoints""|| on it

But I know very little about it other than it exists

[frail heart]

no so basically tanks and moms and pmoms have ||tumors on their backs that you shoot to do damage, and on client you can over damage these tumors with shotguns||

[umbral elbow]

AH yes - this much I knew about

[frail heart]

yeah

so basically, scatter is busted on client

[umbral elbow]

Boss occi

I see I see

[frail heart]

literally being able to 2 shot a boss enemy

[minor fractal]

You fill your screen with a single weakpoint, and dump an entire scatter shell into it

[umbral elbow]

Oh me oh my

Are there any weapons that folks think are especially worth trying? Just stuff that's particularly neat or cool?

I've mostly been trying whatever catches my interest in a given moment but I'm still exploring!

And trying to justify using knife instead of hammer to myself, ehehe

[minor fractal]

DTR is very unique

Revo and Short Rifle both get played as sweaty for-fun weapons

[umbral elbow]

DTR?

[minor fractal]

Double-tap

[umbral elbow]

Ah! What makes it unique? I do love unique things

[umbral elbow]

Wdym?

[minor fractal]

DTR has a one-burst on strikers, but you have to pull down just right to hit a headshot into a bodyshot.

It's a sort of built-in minigame on the gun.

[umbral elbow]

Ah! It's a one shot if at least one is head?

That's pretty cool sounding!

Although it certainly sounds tricky, ehe

[minor fractal]

Revo and SR are both aim-intensive. Revo has a super fast reload but small mag, and is very comfy. Short Rifle gets a lot of ammo and very high RoF, but is a semi and a 3-tap, which makes it fairly high APM.

[umbral elbow]

Ah so short rifle is like a secondary burst rifle?

[frigid obsidian]

The HEL shotgun gave me a feeling I wasn't expecting in GTFO. Feeling like I'm playing Xcom again, and missing 90% accuracy shots. 💀
Definitely not my cup of tea lol
Carbine feels awesome though

[ocean spindle]

no one likes the hel shotgun at first until you tell them is for waves

[minor fractal]

Kind of...

[sage nova]

Hey, I have a question - has anyone tried running GTFO on linux perhaps?

[frail heart]

@little pilot ur fat ass tried to get sky to

[little pilot]

yes, gtfo can run on linux

[sage nova]

Then I am of unlucky few who get an error

[inland grove]

does thermal scope not work in really thick fog or is it bugged sometimes

[grizzled patrol]

It works only If you believe in it hard enough

Orc mentality

[errant dome]

is cause it actually has a notable skill floor before it can be considered good

[grizzled patrol]

I think more so people Stop getting scared and Go for meatshots

[azure narwhal]

i was just reading about melee fighting giants, it said:
"[...]you should allow the player with the strongest weapon to get the first strike in the following order:

Spear (78.75 damage)
Knife (63.1125 when sleeping)
Sledgehammer (60 damage)
Bat (36 damage)"

so my question is: does only the knife have a sleeping multiplier? i always thought every enemy takes more damage if asleep regardless of the weapon,, but because its inly mentioned with the knife it leads me to believe only the knife benefits from that

[safe cradle]

yes only the knife has a sleeping bonus

[azure narwhal]

ahaaa okay thanks

[safe cradle]

just take hammer

[azure narwhal]

but i love how fast i can clear rooms with the knife

and because i like the knife so much I wanted to read into how hard it would be to kill a giant with it xD

like,, cant i just always bait the giants melee attack and immediately go in for a stab to the back and then keep distance again?
probably sounds 10000 times easier than it is

[burnt inlet]

I think it’s possible to kill two giants with knife only, not sure tho

[azure narwhal]

on the wiki it said the bat can do that (havent finished reading tho)

[burnt inlet]

Ooooh yea it was bat lol

[azure narwhal]

and yes, i did go to the wiki because yall said the fandom is poopoo

[azure narwhal]

bat S tier

[burnt inlet]

Fandom suck, fandom page is a bit out of date and not so truthful

[burnt inlet]

Yesnt

[fathom ice]

f

or actually

d

[burnt inlet]

Spear S tier

Lemme find that one ragebaiter

[fathom ice]

it's go prob

[azure narwhal]

also,, the reason i love the knife so much is because it has a lingering attack which makes it wayyyy easier to hit what i want to imo.
for scout melee kills my success rate is higher with knife than ith hammer:
knife: 5/5
hammer 3/4
which is hilarious

[fathom ice]

hammer s
knife a
spear c
bat d

if I'd had to guess

[azure narwhal]

i still havent really tried the bat,, needa do that next time

[burnt inlet]

Can’t find it 😔

[burnt inlet]

Don’t let frosty see that lol

[fathom ice]

he'll agree prob

or swap bat with spear cuz of speeds

[burnt inlet]

He hates spear from what I’ve heard lol

[burnt inlet]

Found it:

does anyone want to play but NOT use the hammer... im so tired of people thinking that its actually good like that weapon is god awful and my team loses any time someone finds it like i can't

[fathom ice]

who doesn't

[burnt inlet]

I don’t think it deserves the hate it gets but I’m also a placater so

[fathom ice]

it's bad

end of story

[burnt inlet]

Yep

[azure narwhal]

my buddy mains the spear

[low radish]

My duo

He is a spear enjoyer

[azure narwhal]

and everytime he kills something he says something along the lines of "hammer couldve never killed from here" making fun of people who make fun of the spear,, its really amusing to watch

[low radish]

Just use any meele you want as long as you can use it correctly there is no harm really

Just do your job right

[azure narwhal]

underrated opinion

[low radish]

I'm a big fan of if it works it works

idc what people use, just have fun and don't hate on others for using x thing

Sure some guns are worse but as long as you do your job with them for me it's fine

[azure narwhal]

realrap

[low radish]

I do understand people who want to run efficent weapons too, but in the end just have fun with what you like

[azure narwhal]

but what if spear had a throw ability

would be sick

[low radish]

S tier immadietly

[azure narwhal]

then enchant it with loyalty

[low radish]

No need to shoot to kill a scout

[azure narwhal]

ranged kill for scouts without noice would be epic

or give spear 10m range

[sage pulsar]

how far away does scatter 1 shot strikers

[low radish]

At this point just levitate to it and kill it

[burnt inlet]

Either 5 lightyears or 50 CM depends on rng gods

[low radish]

I remember running scatter once and missing a whole wave

never again

[burnt inlet]

This is not MC lol

[azure narwhal]

or buff the spear in a way that makes its attack kill everything on screen

[azure narwhal]

😔

[burnt inlet]

You do suck tho

[low radish]

Speedrunners love this tactic