#gtfo-related-questions | GTFO | Page 318

civic wave Apr 5, 2025, 12:16 AM

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repeat

burnt inlet Apr 5, 2025, 12:17 AM

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unironically mood improves when in sun

digital mural Apr 5, 2025, 12:18 AM

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i hate the sun

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i hate it

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someone kill it please

burnt inlet Apr 5, 2025, 12:18 AM

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bruh

digital mural Apr 5, 2025, 12:19 AM

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burnt inlet bruh

i was born white
now im brown

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that shit burns like crazy

burnt inlet Apr 5, 2025, 12:19 AM

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i was born white

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now im whiter

digital mural Apr 5, 2025, 12:19 AM

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(also my skin gets red really fast under the sun)

burnt inlet Apr 5, 2025, 12:20 AM

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idk how my skin has reacted to it, never thought about it before

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but also im white as snow so i need to get out more BabyShooter

lucid sonnet Apr 5, 2025, 12:54 AM

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From a meta perspective why would anyone use the shotgun? It seems to be generally outclassed by the hi-cal pistol, which to my understanding is the closest comparable weapon. Shotgun has a faster reload (with cancel) and more rounds per mag, but less per pack, and a far less consistent one-shot due to the cone spread v.s bullet shot type, not to mention less effective range.

upper ginkgo Apr 5, 2025, 12:55 AM

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um boss kill

minor fractal Apr 5, 2025, 12:56 AM

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lucid sonnet From a meta perspective why would anyone use the shotgun? It seems to be general...

Multi-target, baby kill, boss kill (Vox et al.).

lucid sonnet Apr 5, 2025, 12:57 AM

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How much does that practically matter when if you were going to kill a boss with a shotgun you'd just bring a scatter instead and let other teammates spec for small killing on their special.

civic wave Apr 5, 2025, 12:58 AM

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at that point you'd skip high cal as well, for hel rifle instead

lucid sonnet Apr 5, 2025, 12:58 AM

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At which point why bring either

civic wave Apr 5, 2025, 12:58 AM

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ya

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if you're looking at meta picks only, neither gets there

halcyon current Apr 5, 2025, 12:59 AM

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Just run sawed off scatter gun

civic wave Apr 5, 2025, 12:59 AM

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but yea, shotgun is very versatile and does most things well enough

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(apart from stagger enemies but this is me complaining about gun stats)

lucid sonnet Apr 5, 2025, 1:00 AM

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civic wave but yea, shotgun is very versatile and does most things well enough

yeah ofc not saying it's unusable or anything

halcyon current Apr 5, 2025, 1:00 AM

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lucid sonnet At which point why bring either

Bring shit cause you like it otherwise you'll end up using maybe 4 ish guns tbh

minor fractal Apr 5, 2025, 1:00 AM

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lucid sonnet How much does that practically matter when if you were going to kill a boss with...

This applies to like every Special

halcyon current Apr 5, 2025, 1:01 AM

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Yeah lmao

digital mural Apr 5, 2025, 1:01 AM

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bring machinegun

minor fractal Apr 5, 2025, 1:02 AM

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Scatter is greatly overshadows 90%+ of the aresenal.

ocean spindle Apr 5, 2025, 1:12 AM

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if one just wants to worry about meta the whole team should be sawed off, one scattergun and 3 hel rifles

burnt inlet Apr 5, 2025, 1:21 AM

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id say itd be one bot too running scanner, BR and BC

past mesa Apr 5, 2025, 1:56 AM

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ocean spindle if one just wants to worry about meta the whole team should be sawed off, one sc...

3 scatters but yes

brave wedge Apr 5, 2025, 4:53 AM

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What's a good loadout for someone like me who's intermediate but hasn't figured out the game?

flat oar Apr 5, 2025, 4:56 AM

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hard to say its also depend on what exactly what do you want to do like clear the small, the big

but pretty much guns that can bring to every lvl
main : hel rev, sawed-off
special : hel rifle, HCP

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kinda hard to tell on special

upper ginkgo Apr 5, 2025, 4:59 AM

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yeah you probably want to learn how to use hel weapons because it'll make clearing content in this game a lot easier

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sawed-off / hel gun will probably be your defacto wave-clear loadout

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sawed-off / scatter for boss kill / big kill

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idk if i'd push hel revo nowadays when sawed off exists and gets more value for less effort

prime musk Apr 5, 2025, 5:02 AM

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hel revo gets more value into smalls but it just requires better lines and far far better play to get it

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sawed off just wins into every other target and is 98% of the way there vs smalls

brave wedge Apr 5, 2025, 5:04 AM

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I want a versatile loadout. I love me spear and bio-scanner but I'm definitely a sniper guy as for primary I have absolutely no clue the optimal engagement range and weapons that fit my playstyle of optimal efficiency and gimmicky

flat oar Apr 5, 2025, 5:05 AM

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versatile and sniper cannot be in the same sentence

upper ginkgo Apr 5, 2025, 5:05 AM

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then yeah sawed-off / hel gun covers all your bases if you want versatility

prime musk Apr 5, 2025, 5:05 AM

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optimal efficiency and versatility and gimmicky? sounds like sawed off scatter to me

flat oar Apr 5, 2025, 5:06 AM

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imo the most versatile is sawed-off / hel rifle

brave wedge Apr 5, 2025, 5:08 AM

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I'll give those a shot see what happens

tiny wyvern Apr 5, 2025, 5:08 AM

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Sniper has incredible issues that makes it top out on ammo way too often and makes you waste it on something that you really shouldn't

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So unless you've got a rundown with a majority of bigs (with actual heads) you don't really see anyone run it when hard levels come around without extreme finess around it

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Hel rifle gives you penetration so you can collat a few smalls and does good damage against bigs as well

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Sawed off is just absolutely goated as long as you use it up close

prime musk Apr 5, 2025, 7:22 AM

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@frail heart it's so whack because that tile is in so many other expeditions and is fine there

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they just broke the nav part of the tile in r8c1 and i don't get it

frail heart Apr 5, 2025, 7:23 AM

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its just cause they rushed the rundown due to deadlines

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but yeah quite funny

tardy ingot Apr 5, 2025, 7:24 AM

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frail heart its just cause they rushed the rundown due to deadlines

I mean

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You dont find this during testing since nobody intentionally wakes up enemies to check whether enemies getautostuck

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(Funnily enough I found smth like that for R8E2)

prime musk Apr 5, 2025, 7:24 AM

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you really find this one eva

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you wake the room and back out to previous room

frail heart Apr 5, 2025, 7:25 AM

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they would have seen enemies run into walls

tardy ingot Apr 5, 2025, 7:25 AM

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prime musk you really find this one eva

You dont if you simply kill

prime musk Apr 5, 2025, 7:25 AM

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and enemies just can't exit the room

frail heart Apr 5, 2025, 7:25 AM

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they 100% didnt do enough testing

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due to deadlines

tardy ingot Apr 5, 2025, 7:25 AM

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Theres a reason that issue never happens for experienced teams

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Cuz they kill the scouts and rooms

frail heart Apr 5, 2025, 7:26 AM

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that doesnt happen in every run tho

tardy ingot Apr 5, 2025, 7:26 AM

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???

frail heart Apr 5, 2025, 7:27 AM

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tardy ingot Cuz they kill the scouts and rooms

this does not happen everytime people play the level

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eva i think you underestimate the standard for amount of testing done for stuff

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which they obviously didnt do due to time constraints which they said in the interview

tardy ingot Apr 5, 2025, 7:30 AM

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this specifically is just ultra unlikely to be found by playing

Reminder that they path normally if you have the other door open most of the time aswell

This is rly just a blunder from whoever set the navmesh

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So even if you test this level by walking through it with an enemy to see if pathing breaks, its unlikely to be found

tardy ingot Apr 5, 2025, 7:54 AM

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Oy

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Not even true

safe cradle Apr 5, 2025, 8:04 AM

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MAYBE I'm saying something false, but I remember them talking about having way more people to test levels in earlier rundowns and only a bunch for R8

frail heart Apr 5, 2025, 8:05 AM

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they also had a very shit deadline

safe cradle Apr 5, 2025, 8:05 AM

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Which doesn't mean that they tested less (in theory), but I wouldn't be surprised if they kinda rushed the testing for R8 somewhat more than previous rundowns

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I'll say that whenever I replay Rundown 8 it's just so obvious how DIFFERENT it is from previous rundowns

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There's a lot of stuff you ONLY find there, even zoomer scouts which for example could very easily fit previous rundowns without looking weird or whatnot

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Or how sectors are finally an either/or scenario rather than an added part of the level (R8B2 and R8C1)

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Which makes me wonder how the game would look like "revamped/remastered"

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Not that it's ever going to happen

open rover Apr 5, 2025, 8:12 AM

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safe cradle Which makes me wonder how the game would look like "revamped/remastered"

Thats what mods are for

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there easily could be a HD remaster pack that improves the visuals

topaz anvil Apr 5, 2025, 8:49 AM

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open rover there easily could be a HD remaster pack that improves the visuals

Wdym I've never seen higher quality textures

open rover Apr 5, 2025, 8:50 AM

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yeah cos there aint one

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I am just saying that someone could make one eventually

topaz anvil Apr 5, 2025, 8:52 AM

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This is so sad

open rover Apr 5, 2025, 8:58 AM

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why is it sad? the game looks fine as is, it would just be nice if there was one

topaz anvil Apr 5, 2025, 9:00 AM

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prime musk Apr 5, 2025, 9:02 AM

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team

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how does 424 work in r8d1

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like

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i killed it once

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it respawned without scouts, without bbcs

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i killed it like 2 more times because i forgor it's a respawn room, without scouts or bbcs

topaz anvil Apr 5, 2025, 9:03 AM

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That the big r6c1 room?

prime musk Apr 5, 2025, 9:03 AM

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i kill it again, this time with scouts but with fewer bbcs

prime musk Apr 5, 2025, 9:03 AM

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topaz anvil That the big r6c1 room?

yes

frail heart Apr 5, 2025, 9:03 AM

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prime musk i killed it like 2 more times because i forgor it's a respawn room, without scou...

it has set respawns

prime musk Apr 5, 2025, 9:03 AM

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wdym

frail heart Apr 5, 2025, 9:04 AM

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like set enemy respawns

prime musk Apr 5, 2025, 9:04 AM

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it's different between respawns though

frail heart Apr 5, 2025, 9:04 AM

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idk if its all but some enemies also always spawn in the same place

frail heart Apr 5, 2025, 9:04 AM

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prime musk it's different between respawns though

yeah but those different respawns are set

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so every time you run the level itll be the same

prime musk Apr 5, 2025, 9:04 AM

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no

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i have had different respawns

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same run

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3 different, at least

frail heart Apr 5, 2025, 9:05 AM

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yes but you will get those same respawns in a DIFFERENT run

prime musk Apr 5, 2025, 9:05 AM

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im dum ok ty

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does this apply for other respawn zones too in this level

frail heart Apr 5, 2025, 9:05 AM

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uhhh idk

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i think those are just normal

topaz anvil Apr 5, 2025, 9:05 AM

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Should be normal

prime musk Apr 5, 2025, 9:06 AM

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also do fog reps have infinite vertical

topaz anvil Apr 5, 2025, 9:06 AM

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No

summer wolf Apr 5, 2025, 9:06 AM

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Anyone can help me in clearing R2D2?

topaz anvil Apr 5, 2025, 9:06 AM

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Fogs are spherical

prime musk Apr 5, 2025, 9:07 AM

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summer wolf Anyone can help me in clearing R2D2?

make a lobby in like 1 hour and i can join ig

keen seal Apr 5, 2025, 9:09 AM

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summer wolf Anyone can help me in clearing R2D2?

I'm up

frail heart Apr 5, 2025, 9:09 AM

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what

keen seal Apr 5, 2025, 9:09 AM

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?

frail heart Apr 5, 2025, 9:09 AM

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ur up???? 🤨

topaz anvil Apr 5, 2025, 9:09 AM

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Out of bed obviously

keen seal Apr 5, 2025, 9:09 AM

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how about I'm down

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any better?

topaz anvil Apr 5, 2025, 9:10 AM

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Depressed?

keen seal Apr 5, 2025, 9:10 AM

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bruh

topaz anvil Apr 5, 2025, 9:10 AM

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malice

keen seal Apr 5, 2025, 9:11 AM

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after getting signalis music on random play yes

frail heart Apr 5, 2025, 9:22 AM

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@prime musk so eva told me that the respawn room only respawns the small dudes and then the terminal commands you do in the side zones spawn in the bbcs and stuff and thats why their position is static

prime musk Apr 5, 2025, 9:23 AM

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hm

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makes some sense, ig for whatever reason the side command that respawns bbcs only respawns 1 instead of all 3

tardy ingot Apr 5, 2025, 9:30 AM

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prime musk makes some sense, ig for whatever reason the side command that respawns bbcs onl...

It doesnt

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Respawn

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It spaw s

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New ones

prime musk Apr 5, 2025, 9:31 AM

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yesyes im just bad at words

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team is r8d1 just easy

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idk sure i researched and had map and shit but if i solo it first try first clear idk

frail heart Apr 5, 2025, 9:32 AM

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its left side r8 so its not that hard

prime musk Apr 5, 2025, 9:32 AM

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frosty it's not left and right
it's A side and B side

errant dome Apr 5, 2025, 9:32 AM

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the only actual kinda hard one is r8c1 ol

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but u have the forced doorbug thing

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so its free lol

topaz anvil Apr 5, 2025, 9:33 AM

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Fake and real side

prime musk Apr 5, 2025, 9:33 AM

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yeah it just took 3 attempts to get terminal in overload that's doable solo

frail heart Apr 5, 2025, 9:34 AM

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prime musk frosty it's not left and right it's A side and B side

cell skippers brainrot

frail heart Apr 5, 2025, 9:34 AM

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errant dome so its free lol

no

prime musk Apr 5, 2025, 9:34 AM

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frail heart cell skippers brainrot

frosty you're in cell skippers

frail heart Apr 5, 2025, 9:34 AM

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if ur intentionally abusing it then you might as well door bug

frail heart Apr 5, 2025, 9:34 AM

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prime musk frosty you're in cell skippers

na i mean the team

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im just a double agent

prime musk Apr 5, 2025, 9:34 AM

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fair

prime musk Apr 5, 2025, 9:35 AM

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frail heart if ur intentionally abusing it then you might as well door bug

ngl it feels kinda bad ill probably reclear it but not kite/cheese the 2 alarms that are actually in the level

wild flare Apr 5, 2025, 9:40 AM

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guys i watched e2 video guide and how the fuck it is possible with bots? ||3 tanks on last reactor wave, are you serious?|| BabyShooter

prime musk Apr 5, 2025, 9:40 AM

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there is a room in code hunt where you get very good high ground to kill tanks

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if you can have the bots follow you up there and you have burst cannon or hel rifle yourself, i think it should be doable

frail heart Apr 5, 2025, 9:41 AM

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^

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that spot would be very good with bots

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you take bc and its free

wild flare Apr 5, 2025, 9:53 AM

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||also about first codehunting, can i avoid corrupted scans omw back to reactor? according to video guide, if i w8 a bit, there will be power off or something like that, when those scans dissapears and i can get first code, but to make them disappear omw back to reactor,someone has to put code into reactor terminal and i obviously cannot do it||

prime musk Apr 5, 2025, 9:54 AM

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there is a climb route that takes you to the terminal (only accessible when lights ON, aka where it matters) and another climb route back that is available always

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in other words, you never have to be worried about the corrupted scans

wild flare Apr 5, 2025, 9:55 AM

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okay, thats pretty good

frail heart Apr 5, 2025, 9:57 AM

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also the lights will turn on and off its not based on a person putting in code

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but yeah if you want to get to term, jump up left side and on the way back jump upp terminal

prime musk Apr 5, 2025, 9:58 AM

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huh isn't it left side reactor perspective to get to term

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and then left side again from term ends perspective to get back

prime musk Apr 5, 2025, 10:17 AM

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is a nightmare scout killable as host with quickswap

keen seal Apr 5, 2025, 10:17 AM

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think so

errant dome Apr 5, 2025, 10:22 AM

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prime musk is a nightmare scout killable as host with quickswap

yes

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can do it with scatter or sniper

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people did it before in #gtfo-media

fathom ice Apr 5, 2025, 10:23 AM

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prime musk is a nightmare scout killable as host with quickswap

only w sniper

errant dome Apr 5, 2025, 10:23 AM

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u can with scatter as well

fathom ice Apr 5, 2025, 10:24 AM

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u can just kill it as host at this point

tardy ingot Apr 5, 2025, 10:24 AM

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prime musk is a nightmare scout killable as host with quickswap

you can get a scatter kill as host with 1 shot

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they take full dmg into a certain part in the upper neck

prime musk Apr 5, 2025, 10:24 AM

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yes with the headshot i know but that isn't reasonable

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i don't think i can hit that consistently

tardy ingot Apr 5, 2025, 10:25 AM

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realistically you also dont rly have to deal with them lol

fathom ice Apr 5, 2025, 10:25 AM

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realistically u just break tumor and fight a scout wave

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it's no biggie

tardy ingot Apr 5, 2025, 10:25 AM

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in C1 its 1 and doesnt matter
in A2 its better to trigger them
in D2 they dont rly matter
in E2 its one

prime musk Apr 5, 2025, 10:26 AM

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in 8a2 sec i don't really want to be fighting a scout wave team

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ill just full stealth probably

fathom ice Apr 5, 2025, 10:26 AM

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u can

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avoid it

errant dome Apr 5, 2025, 10:26 AM

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they spawn normals instead of nightmares

fathom ice Apr 5, 2025, 10:26 AM

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think he meant scout after pmom

errant dome Apr 5, 2025, 10:26 AM

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oh that one

fathom ice Apr 5, 2025, 10:27 AM

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realistically

errant dome Apr 5, 2025, 10:27 AM

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well u can avoid it ya

fathom ice Apr 5, 2025, 10:27 AM

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just kill pmom

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kek

errant dome Apr 5, 2025, 10:27 AM

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also that lol

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there is no reason not 2 bring scatter if ur doing secondary

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unless ur doin a challenge i suppose

prime musk Apr 5, 2025, 10:27 AM

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team

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im solo

fathom ice Apr 5, 2025, 10:27 AM

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yeah

errant dome Apr 5, 2025, 10:27 AM

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even then

fathom ice Apr 5, 2025, 10:27 AM

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just kill

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pmom

errant dome Apr 5, 2025, 10:28 AM

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why would u not bring scatter

prime musk Apr 5, 2025, 10:28 AM

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it's scatter sawed off

fathom ice Apr 5, 2025, 10:28 AM

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can u not kill a pmom with scatter sawed off

errant dome Apr 5, 2025, 10:28 AM

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^

prime musk Apr 5, 2025, 10:28 AM

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not without birth

fathom ice Apr 5, 2025, 10:28 AM

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just kill

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birth

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??

errant dome Apr 5, 2025, 10:28 AM

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its 1 birth

frail heart Apr 5, 2025, 10:28 AM

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why kill???

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just go past it

fathom ice Apr 5, 2025, 10:28 AM

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why not

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style points

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tbf if ure doing sec

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and not goofing

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ure 100/100 with a 4 use

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so

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might as well

frail heart Apr 5, 2025, 10:29 AM

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you still have class 5 or whatevr

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with potato

fathom ice Apr 5, 2025, 10:29 AM

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nah is free

frail heart Apr 5, 2025, 10:29 AM

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and tank

errant dome Apr 5, 2025, 10:29 AM

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i mean its not rlly worth mostly cause of the hp loss

fathom ice Apr 5, 2025, 10:29 AM

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tank is also free

errant dome Apr 5, 2025, 10:29 AM

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ammo is whatever

fathom ice Apr 5, 2025, 10:29 AM

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u have a door so

frail heart Apr 5, 2025, 10:29 AM

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ammo

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and health

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dont kill pmom

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only tank is mandatory

fathom ice Apr 5, 2025, 10:29 AM

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bunch of skill issues

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in my chat

errant dome Apr 5, 2025, 10:30 AM

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no u

fathom ice Apr 5, 2025, 10:30 AM

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me when i make a 30 minute clear an hour long

frail heart Apr 5, 2025, 10:30 AM

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killing pmom is just a troll

errant dome Apr 5, 2025, 10:30 AM

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but my dmg!

fathom ice Apr 5, 2025, 10:31 AM

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frail heart killing pmom is just a troll

that's why it's mandatory

errant dome Apr 5, 2025, 10:31 AM

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there is no real reason 2 do so tho i do agree with that

tardy ingot Apr 5, 2025, 10:31 AM

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prime musk im solo

sneak

fathom ice Apr 5, 2025, 10:32 AM

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was it foam for solo

prime musk Apr 5, 2025, 10:32 AM

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yeah that's the strat but sneaking scouts if they're killable is just more pain than it's worth usually

sturdy glen Apr 5, 2025, 10:33 AM

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it is defo foam

errant dome Apr 5, 2025, 10:33 AM

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prime musk yeah that's the strat but sneaking scouts if they're killable is just more pain ...

i mean u can try 2 go for it with scatter but is not consistent

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or just foam it

prime musk Apr 5, 2025, 10:34 AM

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sturdy glen it is defo foam

is it

errant dome Apr 5, 2025, 10:34 AM

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im assuming u mean the 1scout 2 giant room

fathom ice Apr 5, 2025, 10:34 AM

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ngl foam looks a bit cooked

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esp if u carry med

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if u carry ammo it's fine ig

sturdy glen Apr 5, 2025, 10:34 AM

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what other tool are you bringing??

fathom ice Apr 5, 2025, 10:34 AM

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sentry prob

sturdy glen Apr 5, 2025, 10:34 AM

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for what

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wtf is sentry gonna do

fathom ice Apr 5, 2025, 10:34 AM

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both class 5's

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if u don't have med it's actually tight ngl

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wait

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other way around

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if ure carrying med

errant dome Apr 5, 2025, 10:35 AM

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its mostly giants for 1st class 5 no?

fathom ice Apr 5, 2025, 10:35 AM

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star

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i've had

errant dome Apr 5, 2025, 10:35 AM

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or are u sayin sniper sentry

fathom ice Apr 5, 2025, 10:35 AM

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i was playing bingo

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and everyone was wiping on that class 5

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with a bot

errant dome Apr 5, 2025, 10:35 AM

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i mean

fathom ice Apr 5, 2025, 10:35 AM

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is pretty jukt

errant dome Apr 5, 2025, 10:35 AM

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thats more so cause everyone was trying 2 go fast

fathom ice Apr 5, 2025, 10:35 AM

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was it really

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man idk

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i just saw 3 wipes in a row

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it was pretty cooked

errant dome Apr 5, 2025, 10:36 AM

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i wasnt there so shrug but usually it is

sturdy glen Apr 5, 2025, 10:36 AM

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I feel like its not actually that bad but ive never tried it so idk

frail heart Apr 5, 2025, 10:37 AM

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you get no tool so like foam doesnt do that much

prime musk Apr 5, 2025, 12:13 PM

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i have never been so tilted as by a2 secondary this is kinda funny

fathom ice Apr 5, 2025, 12:18 PM

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what happened

prime musk Apr 5, 2025, 12:19 PM

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im dying in secondary because the class 5 sucks

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the shooters are just awful

fathom ice Apr 5, 2025, 12:19 PM

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avg

prime musk Apr 5, 2025, 12:22 PM

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sentry runs out just as smalls come out

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and then there's just 10 fucking shooters

fathom ice Apr 5, 2025, 12:26 PM

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it's probably a don't use sentry on first class 5 angle or smth

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but it feels miserable

prime musk Apr 5, 2025, 12:26 PM

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i don't use sentry on first class 5

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or for mom

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it's at 67

fathom ice Apr 5, 2025, 12:26 PM

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how is it running out then??

prime musk Apr 5, 2025, 12:26 PM

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BECAUSE IT'S 3 BIG REDS

fathom ice Apr 5, 2025, 12:26 PM

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still tho

prime musk Apr 5, 2025, 12:26 PM

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ig i gotta stand in scan when i fight potato

fathom ice Apr 5, 2025, 12:26 PM

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it shoots for like 2 mins straight at 67

prime musk Apr 5, 2025, 12:26 PM

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i step out for like 12 sec to kill it

fathom ice Apr 5, 2025, 12:27 PM

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u just flank it and double scatter plus sawed off kills i think

prime musk Apr 5, 2025, 12:28 PM

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im stupid ofc it takes back dmg

fathom ice Apr 5, 2025, 12:29 PM

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good morning

flat oar Apr 5, 2025, 12:30 PM

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morning?

burnt inlet Apr 5, 2025, 12:30 PM

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Good morning

prime musk Apr 5, 2025, 12:34 PM

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sky im afraid to inform you 67% burst sentry lasts just over a minute

fathom ice Apr 5, 2025, 12:39 PM

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i mean if it shoot potato for half an hour

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prob

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ngl

prime musk Apr 5, 2025, 12:39 PM

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no like given 67% it can shoot for 1 minute and like 3 seconds

fathom ice Apr 5, 2025, 12:39 PM

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should've took sniper sentry

prime musk Apr 5, 2025, 12:40 PM

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maybe i should have taken sniper sentry yeah

fathom ice Apr 5, 2025, 12:40 PM

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ur sawed off scatter anw

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as tru told me no point in partial kills

prime musk Apr 5, 2025, 12:40 PM

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naw im hel revo scatter because first alarm sucks bad without

fathom ice Apr 5, 2025, 12:41 PM

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could've done sawed off hel rifle prob

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I think u carry ammo with u anw

prime musk Apr 5, 2025, 12:42 PM

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if you carry ammo it might be a hel rifle angle

fathom ice Apr 5, 2025, 12:43 PM

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like

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if u play safe

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ur near to full health wise to alarm

prime musk Apr 5, 2025, 12:43 PM

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yeah

fathom ice Apr 5, 2025, 12:43 PM

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am just gives u more space

prime musk Apr 5, 2025, 12:44 PM

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i'd try it except im not redoing the alarm because it's ass

fathom ice Apr 5, 2025, 12:44 PM

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yeah fair

prime musk Apr 5, 2025, 12:44 PM

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such a fun reset, half the time is spent waiting for scout to cooperate and for mom to cooperate

fathom ice Apr 5, 2025, 12:45 PM

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i mean

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u can just kill birth

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u lose like 20% hp prob

prime musk Apr 5, 2025, 12:46 PM

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mom takes like no time in comparison to scout

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but it is more waiting

fathom ice Apr 5, 2025, 12:46 PM

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which scout

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n?

prime musk Apr 5, 2025, 12:46 PM

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nm scout

fathom ice Apr 5, 2025, 12:46 PM

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yr

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it depends on it's pathing

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like sometimes it'd go very far into the room

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and it's like free to sneak

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iidr if giants are always at the same spot

prime musk Apr 5, 2025, 12:47 PM

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i have no clue all i know is that the scout can take like 15 minutes to be reasonable

fathom ice Apr 5, 2025, 12:47 PM

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idk it took me a minute when we were doing bingo

prime musk Apr 5, 2025, 12:47 PM

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yeah sometimes it works immediately

fathom ice Apr 5, 2025, 12:47 PM

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prolly u have really bad pathing

prime musk Apr 5, 2025, 12:47 PM

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sometimes it's on top of giants forever

civic wave Apr 5, 2025, 12:47 PM

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what if we raced to die to the potato in bingo?

fathom ice Apr 5, 2025, 12:48 PM

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oh well

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you would've won

frail heart Apr 5, 2025, 12:48 PM

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fathom ice iidr if giants are always at the same spot

giants are static

fathom ice Apr 5, 2025, 12:48 PM

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frail heart giants are static

oh it's chill then

civic wave Apr 5, 2025, 12:50 PM

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i am simply the best

fathom ice Apr 5, 2025, 12:50 PM

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^^^^^

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tbf maybe I was having a bit too much fun

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since I fully shot the first room for no reason

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with a scout pull

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but anw

civic wave Apr 5, 2025, 12:52 PM

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doesn't matter that much

fathom ice Apr 5, 2025, 12:52 PM

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it takes time

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is the point

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but I didn't care much

civic wave Apr 5, 2025, 12:54 PM

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me neither, bingo is just bingo and is not a mark of player skill

fathom ice Apr 5, 2025, 12:54 PM

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ye

civic wave Apr 5, 2025, 12:54 PM

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but damn i still got shafted

fathom ice Apr 5, 2025, 12:54 PM

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u got sniped for half the squares

frail heart Apr 5, 2025, 12:54 PM

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no it is 100% a mark of player skill and i am the best

fathom ice Apr 5, 2025, 12:54 PM

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avg

prime musk Apr 5, 2025, 12:55 PM

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ok team im just never finishing r8 this sucks

frail heart Apr 5, 2025, 12:56 PM

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do main only or something

prime musk Apr 5, 2025, 12:56 PM

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naw i can't be cringe like that

fathom ice Apr 5, 2025, 12:57 PM

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are room scans mandatory for main?

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or nah

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2nd one is actually scary

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or at least it felt like it

digital mural Apr 5, 2025, 1:21 PM

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tardy ingot Oy

Tbh i forgot to mention you

hoary mason Apr 5, 2025, 1:37 PM

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tardy ingot Oy

perliFumo

topaz anvil Apr 5, 2025, 1:54 PM

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digital mural Tbh i forgot to mention you

pablo saying hate speech was not on my bingo list 😔

digital mural Apr 5, 2025, 1:54 PM

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topaz anvil pablo saying hate speech was not on my bingo list 😔

🫃 ?

topaz anvil Apr 5, 2025, 1:54 PM

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Disappointed in you 😔

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this is why you cant beat bun bun

digital mural Apr 5, 2025, 1:58 PM

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topaz anvil this is why you cant beat bun bun

:3

burnt inlet Apr 5, 2025, 2:20 PM

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is there a way to know before hand if fog is toxic without jumping in?

topaz anvil Apr 5, 2025, 2:24 PM

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instinct

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most infectious fog has a green tinge to it

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but not all iirc

burnt inlet Apr 5, 2025, 2:24 PM

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aight

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if it looks toxic it might be basically

digital mural Apr 5, 2025, 2:25 PM

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burnt inlet is there a way to know before hand if fog is toxic without jumping in?

You smell it

burnt inlet Apr 5, 2025, 2:26 PM

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digital mural You smell it

mfw i wake up a mom

hard nexus Apr 5, 2025, 3:42 PM

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whats in the surprise box in 8b2

civic wave Apr 5, 2025, 3:45 PM

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limited edition playboy magazine from the 90s

digital mural Apr 5, 2025, 3:46 PM

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ihavenofacebutiwillstillscream

burnt inlet Apr 5, 2025, 3:50 PM

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should i do secondary before bringing the cryo to the extraction point or can i leave them there whilst i do secondary? (R4A2 do not elaborate)

prime musk Apr 5, 2025, 3:51 PM

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placing both of the cases in extraction scan will start an error/extraction alarm, so leave one out until you are ready to extract

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(but you might as well bring it close to scan)

burnt inlet Apr 5, 2025, 3:55 PM

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should i do overload before secondary?

prime musk Apr 5, 2025, 3:55 PM

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if you do secondary first , you do not get access to overload.

burnt inlet Apr 5, 2025, 3:56 PM

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tyty

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oh yea lol i didnt start it

burnt inlet Apr 5, 2025, 4:12 PM

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god i love it when my bots get stuck during a level 3 cluster alarm

peak tinsel Apr 5, 2025, 5:22 PM

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do the non 1 levels in r7 have lore stuff? like ik r7a1,b1,c1 have schaeffers voice lines and stuff, so do the other levels in this rundown do too? like r7b2 r7c2 etc

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or something cool and different like the grabber/snatcher thing in r7c1

topaz anvil Apr 5, 2025, 5:23 PM

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they are technically optional missions

sick mauve Apr 5, 2025, 5:24 PM

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orange highlight just means it’s a more story-important level

peak tinsel Apr 5, 2025, 5:24 PM

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oh okay , thanks 🙂

civic wave Apr 5, 2025, 5:25 PM

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peak tinsel do the non 1 levels in r7 have lore stuff? like ik r7a1,b1,c1 have schaeffers vo...

some of them do, some of them don't

peak tinsel Apr 5, 2025, 5:29 PM

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civic wave some of them do, some of them don't

like anythign super impactful to the story like the 1 missions?

sick mauve Apr 5, 2025, 5:29 PM

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sick mauve orange highlight just means it’s a more story-important level

subjective to 10cc’s view i suppose

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imo just play the levels. and see for yourself

peak tinsel Apr 5, 2025, 5:30 PM

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yeah probably lol, thanks again

tardy ingot Apr 5, 2025, 5:42 PM

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peak tinsel like anythign super impactful to the story like the 1 missions?

basically everything plays into the story
the R7A1, B1, C1, C3, D1, D2 and E1 all have actual voice lines and or heavy lore implications
B2, B3 and C2 are not as forced on you, but make sense in the idea of whats happening

(also its generally good to go through a layer/tier first)

ocean spindle Apr 5, 2025, 6:48 PM

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are cscouts taller than regular chargers or is it just an optical illusion

civic wave Apr 5, 2025, 6:48 PM

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they are a touch bigger

ocean spindle Apr 5, 2025, 6:49 PM

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:O i knew it i was just doubting myself

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thanks

ocean spindle Apr 5, 2025, 7:08 PM

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do chargeds have more resitance to foam or is it the same as aaa normal stroiker

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i could open the game but pls save me from not havin to do that

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BabyShooter

flat oar Apr 5, 2025, 7:18 PM

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charger have 6 foam hp striker and shooter 4

grizzled patrol Apr 5, 2025, 7:20 PM

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yeah they also get foamed for 6 seconds unlike strikers that get foamed for 8 seconds

ocean spindle Apr 5, 2025, 7:20 PM

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:D thank u gamers

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me checking the preview 50 times before clickin "save changes" on the wiki:

sick mauve Apr 5, 2025, 7:36 PM

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u could easily check stuff like this in datablocks

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it’s much more accurate vs word of mouth

ocean spindle Apr 5, 2025, 7:37 PM

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sadly im stupid :[ idk how to read them and tbh not sure where to check them

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i dont have gtfo installed

sick mauve Apr 5, 2025, 7:37 PM

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next you’re gonna tell me you’ve never played gtfo either

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lmao

ocean spindle Apr 5, 2025, 7:38 PM

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i got i got 1k hours :3

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gaming

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[its an addiction help me]

whole summit Apr 6, 2025, 1:02 PM

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Me and my friends have been slamming our heads into r2d2 and getting bodied pretty hard. After ~6hrs we finished wave 6 and started the class 4 scan in the far right room (zone 195?). We tend to get smoked on the scan pretty hard due to low resources. Our normal sentry setup is 2 in the middle of the bridge and one facing the back. During the first 5 waves when all come from the front everyone sits on bridge and defends, when they start coming from the rear terminal man watches that and calls for support when they start coming. The two big clearers alternate advancing forward with shotguns to kill big shooters and normal bigs. For areas with scouts backliner snipes one of them then we all fall back and use mine + door + cfoam if we found some to kill wave.
Any tips/advice or are we just getting skill issued?

terminal/feet clearer: carbine, heavy assault, tracker
big clearer 1: heavy SMG, choke mod shotgun, burst sentry
big clearer 2: hel revolver, choke mod shotgun, burst sentry
backliner: PDW, precision rifle, burst sentry

ocean spindle Apr 6, 2025, 1:03 PM

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uuu should start learning how to run melee for scouts. if ur runnin low on res u need to save urself the ammo so someone that knows how to run ahead and kill it and then coontinue melee is ideal

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personally i would get rid of at least one chokemod, maybe a hel rifle in its place

flat oar Apr 6, 2025, 1:03 PM

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first of all do your team aware of "fall off" dmg its one of the main reason that you dont have enough ammo

ocean spindle Apr 6, 2025, 1:04 PM

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if u wanna rlly go meta i would her rid of HAR too for something like idk, hel gun or welp- even just the veruta if they rlly love autos

digital mural Apr 6, 2025, 1:04 PM

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HAR user
Based

ocean spindle Apr 6, 2025, 1:04 PM

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yeh but aa for d2 no

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the recoil will kinda ruin u

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and its like the only gun that has real ammo problems

digital mural Apr 6, 2025, 1:05 PM

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I would just throw away all of the chokes and har

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And get BC,Hel gun or hel rifle instead

whole summit Apr 6, 2025, 1:06 PM

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ocean spindle uuu should start learning how to run melee for scouts. if ur runnin low on res u...

I (terminal man) can melee scouts but between the time crunch and us being a bunch of bumbling idiots the room tends to wake up anyways, we figured nuking one scout and waking up 1 was better than waking up 2

ocean spindle Apr 6, 2025, 1:07 PM

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but its still not very ideal- some practice for faster stealth would work pretty well for this, like knowin how to walk up to enemies and kill them before they scream so u arent in such a time crunch and thus maybe more relaxed to melee the scout

tardy ingot Apr 6, 2025, 1:07 PM

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whole summit Me and my friends have been slamming our heads into r2d2 and getting bodied pret...

practice scout melee kills

your loadouts are... very subpar. Especially the "big clearers" arent rly that anti big
Overall your whole team has 2 good weapons and 1 decent one pretty much

Then theres also looting, cuz realistically you shouldnt be out of ressources? but that could come down to whether you guys dont loot well enough or miss/shoot the same targets unnecessarily

tardy ingot Apr 6, 2025, 1:08 PM

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whole summit I (terminal man) can melee scouts but between the time crunch and us being a bun...

this is definetly fair in the big "donut" room for code 5 (as this one can actually have a mild time crunch for newer players)

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but for Code 6... uh yea, dont shoot the scouts unless there seems to be no other way (if multiple are still alive)

whole summit Apr 6, 2025, 1:10 PM

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flat oar first of all do your team aware of "fall off" dmg its one of the main reason tha...

im like 95% certain both choke mods are firing outside the range, but i dont know what the range is either

ocean spindle Apr 6, 2025, 1:10 PM

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uhhh its still a shotgun so not that far

tardy ingot Apr 6, 2025, 1:10 PM

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....

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slendi

ocean spindle Apr 6, 2025, 1:10 PM

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no?

tardy ingot Apr 6, 2025, 1:10 PM

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(its 15 meters before fall off)

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choke mod has pretty generous range

digital mural Apr 6, 2025, 1:11 PM

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Slendi misinfo

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tardy ingot Apr 6, 2025, 1:11 PM

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the gun is still subpar and is heavily role crept

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theres like barely ever a reason to pick it

frail heart Apr 6, 2025, 1:11 PM

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choke mods one good thing is that it has good range for a shotgun

digital mural Apr 6, 2025, 1:11 PM

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Get a Burst Cannon

tardy ingot Apr 6, 2025, 1:11 PM

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hel rifle, burst cannon, scattergun etc etc all exist

whole summit Apr 6, 2025, 1:11 PM

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ocean spindle if u wanna rlly go meta i would her rid of HAR too for something like idk, hel g...

I ran veruta for a while just was trying out HAR because no charge up

ocean spindle Apr 6, 2025, 1:11 PM

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maybe im exaggerating with the pelltet distribution its been a long time since i played it

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im sorryy

ocean spindle Apr 6, 2025, 1:11 PM

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whole summit I ran veruta for a while just was trying out HAR because no charge up

no charge up feels fine but damn is it bouncy and like struggles with ammo quite a bit

tardy ingot Apr 6, 2025, 1:11 PM

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whole summit I ran veruta for a while just was trying out HAR because no charge up

gotta think of it like this generally

full autos are not good in this game most of the time. (many bullets =/= many kills)

ocean spindle Apr 6, 2025, 1:12 PM

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its a gun more like pistol, take ur shots

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cant spray it

whole summit Apr 6, 2025, 1:12 PM

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digital mural I would just throw away all of the chokes and har

Ill try talking to them about trying other big killers, they just hate getting close so scatter is a no go (despite all my praises about scatter)

flat oar Apr 6, 2025, 1:12 PM

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whole summit im like 95% certain both choke mods are firing outside the range, but i dont kno...

hit indicator more transparent than normal hit iirc

tardy ingot Apr 6, 2025, 1:13 PM

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whole summit Ill try talking to them about trying other big killers, they just hate getting c...

just tell them that they arent actually running a big killer and instead the worst of the all rounders

whole summit Apr 6, 2025, 1:13 PM

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yeah i mostly use it as a one tap gun not a spray, but ill switch to something else next time

tardy ingot Apr 6, 2025, 1:13 PM

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(also getting close rly isnt an issue USUALLY. In R2D2 scatter is not that good of a pick)

ocean spindle Apr 6, 2025, 1:13 PM

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the other option here is skipping d2 :] and just going to r3 cuz its easier

flat oar Apr 6, 2025, 1:13 PM

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sniper for the win

digital mural Apr 6, 2025, 1:13 PM

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Sniper 🤮

tardy ingot Apr 6, 2025, 1:14 PM

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sniper can have good value on r2d2
if the other players dont shoot giant heads
if the player can hit giant heads
if the player ammo balances correctly
if you dont pick other giant clear (like burst cannon) unnecessarily

whole summit Apr 6, 2025, 1:14 PM

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tardy ingot just tell them that they arent actually running a big killer and instead the wor...

I will do my damndest to convince them. So things like burst cannon/hel rifle would be alternatives?

flat oar Apr 6, 2025, 1:15 PM

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mainly i give up shooting giant and focus on hybrid

tardy ingot Apr 6, 2025, 1:15 PM

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whole summit I will do my damndest to convince them. So things like burst cannon/hel rifle wo...

hel rifle is just the complete other side of choke mod
(aka the best all rounder)

It can work as giant clear (has insane range AND penetration)
But its also pretty much the best wave clear option (tied with hel gun)

mossy heron Apr 6, 2025, 1:16 PM

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dumb question, I want to run some tests, there's no way to give ourselvse specific boosters ? (not gonna cheese the game, I finished it already dont worry)

tardy ingot Apr 6, 2025, 1:16 PM

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burst cannon is just a good simple anti giant option. But as said, if your teammate running it has aim and everyone else avoids shooting giant heads, then Sniper can do good

flat oar Apr 6, 2025, 1:16 PM

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not many map use sniper this effectively

ocean spindle Apr 6, 2025, 1:16 PM

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mossy heron dumb question, I want to run some tests, there's no way to give ourselvse specif...

mods

tardy ingot Apr 6, 2025, 1:16 PM

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oh also @whole summit with hel rifle (or rather all guns that arent the Sniper), do not shoot giant striker heads

flat oar Apr 6, 2025, 1:16 PM

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tardy ingot oh also <@732546582519611404> with hel rifle (or rather all guns that arent the ...

i love 5 extra dmg

edit bruh its 2

whole summit Apr 6, 2025, 1:16 PM

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yeah backliner is usually popping heads, his aim is good

mossy heron Apr 6, 2025, 1:17 PM

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ocean spindle mods

indeed but I cannot find a mod that does that, only ones that makes their use permanent

digital mural Apr 6, 2025, 1:17 PM

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Custom boosters

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Use it

mossy heron Apr 6, 2025, 1:17 PM

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oh I'm gonna try that

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thx thx

whole summit Apr 6, 2025, 1:17 PM

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tardy ingot hel rifle is just the complete other side of choke mod (aka the best all rounder...

which hel rifle, the full big rifle or the smaller one?

tardy ingot Apr 6, 2025, 1:17 PM

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Hel rifle

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theres only 1

digital mural Apr 6, 2025, 1:18 PM

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There is only one

whole summit Apr 6, 2025, 1:18 PM

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ah i was thinking of hel gun

tardy ingot Apr 6, 2025, 1:18 PM

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the only gun that shares a name is the machine gun (hence it being differentiated between veruta and arbalist)

ocean spindle Apr 6, 2025, 1:18 PM

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me when "theres 3 snipers" AAAAAAAAA

tardy ingot Apr 6, 2025, 1:18 PM

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well, at least if you play in english

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in german for example hel rifle and gun are the same
mgs are the same
3 shotguns are the same

ocean spindle Apr 6, 2025, 1:18 PM

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me when the explosive rifle

tardy ingot Apr 6, 2025, 1:18 PM

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SCHROTFLINTE

ocean spindle Apr 6, 2025, 1:18 PM

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thank u so much portuguese

whole summit Apr 6, 2025, 1:20 PM

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ok, ill see what i can do for switching people to HEL Rifle/burst cannon. as for main/tool do those make sense?

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we tried using a shotgun sentry way in the front to thin out waves, it didnt stick around too long though

flat oar Apr 6, 2025, 1:20 PM

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you can use 2 burst sentry and 1 sniper sentry

ocean spindle Apr 6, 2025, 1:21 PM

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shottie sentry is unbased sadly

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:[

tardy ingot Apr 6, 2025, 1:21 PM

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whole summit ok, ill see what i can do for switching people to HEL Rifle/burst cannon. as for...

bio is always right to have
3 burst sentries is fine. You could swap to 1 sniper sentry, but thats only if you struggle with bigs after swapping to actual giant clear weapons

for main weapons. hel revolver and carbine are good

heavy smg and pdw are... not doing that much

ocean spindle Apr 6, 2025, 1:22 PM

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it is useful to also remember that all these are like for extreme efficiency of loadouts if u take pdw to r3a1 u will not get slaughtered its only cuz ur strugglin so go meta

tardy ingot Apr 6, 2025, 1:22 PM

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ya

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also, if you clear R2D2

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just skip R2E1

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ngl

whole summit Apr 6, 2025, 1:23 PM

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i get it, its mostly because i know how my friends will react because they know and like how the guns feel and are gonna be resistent to change

whole summit Apr 6, 2025, 1:23 PM

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tardy ingot just skip R2E1

yeah we are not crazy enough to try an E level

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R2D1 took us like 13 hours or something (granted it was 2 players 2 bots) but after this hell we can move on to the D stages of R3

craggy pier Apr 6, 2025, 1:25 PM

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Is the matchmaking for this game just garbage? You cant matchmake for the specific mission your trying to play

flat oar Apr 6, 2025, 1:26 PM

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craggy pier Is the matchmaking for this game just garbage? You cant matchmake for the specif...

you got it right

craggy pier Apr 6, 2025, 1:26 PM

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flat oar you got it right

why tf would they design it that way? You basically have to use the discord or u cant play

civic wave Apr 6, 2025, 1:27 PM

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matchmaking came after the discord and didn't manage to supercede it

minor fractal Apr 6, 2025, 1:27 PM

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whole summit Me and my friends have been slamming our heads into r2d2 and getting bodied pret...

PR is decent, but can be low ammo. HAR is really low ammo. Choke is low ammo if it's your primary big kill.

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It is probably a loadout issue

craggy pier Apr 6, 2025, 1:27 PM

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civic wave matchmaking came after the discord and didn't manage to supercede it

I mean no wonder when it always randomizes the mission in a game that wants you to play them in order

flat oar Apr 6, 2025, 1:28 PM

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is it used to be better in OG ?

civic wave Apr 6, 2025, 1:28 PM

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with the way the game is nowadays and the few amount of people clicking matchmake, the compromise was made to make the level search more general just so you could find a level

civic wave Apr 6, 2025, 1:28 PM

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flat oar is it used to be better in OG ?

must've been, less levels to search for then

whole summit Apr 6, 2025, 1:28 PM

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tardy ingot bio is always right to have 3 burst sentries is fine. You could swap to 1 sniper...

any other recommendations for main weapons besides hel revo and carbine (ive tried shilling carbine before)

flat oar Apr 6, 2025, 1:28 PM

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fair

craggy pier Apr 6, 2025, 1:28 PM

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eh, there are more than a few much better ways to do matchmaking

tardy ingot Apr 6, 2025, 1:28 PM

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craggy pier I mean no wonder when it always randomizes the mission in a game that wants you ...

it was so you could pick, but then they readded ALL levels. So you barely could find people if you searched for 1 specifically
so now it focuses on finding you a game in a level of similar tier over that exact lvl youd want

civic wave Apr 6, 2025, 1:29 PM

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craggy pier eh, there are more than a few much better ways to do matchmaking

mhm, the idea of a lobby/server browser has been brought up to death

minor fractal Apr 6, 2025, 1:29 PM

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whole summit any other recommendations for main weapons besides hel revo and carbine (ive tri...

Sawed-Off, HEL Shotgun

craggy pier Apr 6, 2025, 1:29 PM

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tardy ingot it was so you could pick, but then they readded ALL levels. So you barely could ...

except people just join and leave for endless pointless matchmaking -_-

safe cradle Apr 6, 2025, 1:30 PM

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craggy pier except people just join and leave for endless pointless matchmaking -_-

You really shouldn't use ingame mm anymore I'm not going to lie

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50% the game doesn't even start because of what you said

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Which is a mix of people WANTING to be host so they can do the heck they want

tardy ingot Apr 6, 2025, 1:30 PM

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whole summit any other recommendations for main weapons besides hel revo and carbine (ive tri...

carbine is 100% the most easy to slot main weapon thats good.

Sawed off is the best in the game and also "simple" but takes a bit of understanding when it kills. Hel shotgun is also cracked but needs real getting used to.

the only other one is dmr, which is good. But a bit more aim intensive and low-ish on ammo (doesnt rly matter too much)

safe cradle Apr 6, 2025, 1:30 PM

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And people not liking the map that came out

flat oar Apr 6, 2025, 1:31 PM

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no one use mm > cant fine people > dev make mm can find every lvl > not my map to play > leave > no one use mm

minor fractal Apr 6, 2025, 1:31 PM

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I think if you're recommending DMR, HEL Autopistol is also good

craggy pier Apr 6, 2025, 1:31 PM

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hmm, devs kinda shot themselves in the foot with that system, but i will give this discord a go and hopefully get some non asshole people to play with

minor fractal Apr 6, 2025, 1:31 PM

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It's just a bit niche

tardy ingot Apr 6, 2025, 1:31 PM

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tbf I was thinking of R2D2 rn mainly

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but yea

minor fractal Apr 6, 2025, 1:31 PM

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Would probably be painful to play on reactor, yeah

tardy ingot Apr 6, 2025, 1:32 PM

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top 6 mains are quite clear

ocean spindle Apr 6, 2025, 1:32 PM

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craggy pier hmm, devs kinda shot themselves in the foot with that system, but i will give th...

just some advice
always ask to not be carried, make sure that everyone joinin ur lobby joins ur voice channel
and if u havent, be sure to do the tutorial first [on the top left] and start on rundown 1/6 since they are the simplest/easiest ones

whole summit Apr 6, 2025, 1:32 PM

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minor fractal I think if you're recommending DMR, HEL Autopistol is also good

ive played with hel auto a lot, i quite like it but i always ran it as a gun to finish off almost dead things or stun things who were about to shoot

tardy ingot Apr 6, 2025, 1:32 PM

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thats kinda how it works yea

craggy pier Apr 6, 2025, 1:32 PM

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ocean spindle just some advice always ask to not be carried, make sure that everyone joinin ur...

Iv got a grasp on all the mechanics. tried running solo because bots frustrate me bu you just get overwhelmed

ocean spindle Apr 6, 2025, 1:33 PM

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a

tardy ingot Apr 6, 2025, 1:33 PM

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stagger focused main with pen

tardy ingot Apr 6, 2025, 1:34 PM

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craggy pier Iv got a grasp on all the mechanics. tried running solo because bots frustrate m...

why do they frustrate you?

(also, unless you litteraly checked out a fuck ton of guides Its unlikely that you got the mechanics down. Game can be quite mean with not showing you how stuff works)

whole summit Apr 6, 2025, 1:35 PM

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ok so
main: DMR / carbine / sawed off / HEL revo
special: HEL rifle / burst cannon / scatter

craggy pier Apr 6, 2025, 1:35 PM

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tardy ingot why do they frustrate you? (also, unless you litteraly checked out a fuck ton o...

Fair, I know how to order bots around nd do terminal commands but im probably missing something

safe cradle Apr 6, 2025, 1:35 PM

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whole summit ok so main: DMR / carbine / sawed off / HEL revo special: HEL rifle / burst can...

f-feet c-clearing?

minor fractal Apr 6, 2025, 1:35 PM

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Veruta is not good, but it and Revo are very playable on R2D2

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Much better than HAR, at least

tardy ingot Apr 6, 2025, 1:36 PM

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whole summit ok so main: DMR / carbine / sawed off / HEL revo special: HEL rifle / burst can...

main: also hel revo

hel shotgun and hel auto arent that great/easy to play on R2D2 tho

special: hel rifle is the wave clear
wave clear specials: hel rifle, hel gun are top 2. Combat shotgun, shotgun and high cal are ok alternatives that are simpler
big killer specials: scattergun and burst cannon
(scattergun is generally stupidly broken)

whole summit Apr 6, 2025, 1:36 PM

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safe cradle f-feet c-clearing?

killing the little shits so they dont get past our line

tardy ingot Apr 6, 2025, 1:37 PM

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we generally just call that wave clearing

whole summit Apr 6, 2025, 1:38 PM

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is it not overkill to use hel rifle on little guys?

tardy ingot Apr 6, 2025, 1:38 PM

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not rly

safe cradle Apr 6, 2025, 1:38 PM

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whole summit is it not overkill to use hel rifle on little guys?

No because you easily get them lined up

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So you often get double if not triple kills

tardy ingot Apr 6, 2025, 1:38 PM

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even without getting penetration you are likely just as efficient as you are with heavy ar, but it takes far less aim and time

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and then you also have pen. So any extra enemy tagged behind the first is more value

whole summit Apr 6, 2025, 1:39 PM

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ok noted, the few times i have run rifle i always saved it for bigs

tardy ingot Apr 6, 2025, 1:39 PM

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its an all rounder, but also one of the best wave clear choices

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its basically anti everything but bosses

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actually

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@whole summit #guides-and-reviews message

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you can potentially check stuff like this

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guides n reviews channel is good in general

whole summit Apr 6, 2025, 1:41 PM

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ok, i havent seen that episode but i watched the first 4 of that series

hard nexus Apr 6, 2025, 2:11 PM

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meanwhile just found game in mm

brazen storm Apr 6, 2025, 3:14 PM

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any way to choose a character you wanna play?

ocean spindle Apr 6, 2025, 3:14 PM

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uhh mods, or by locking slots so u end up on the right one

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altho if no one wants to be woods u will have to host migrate

brazen storm Apr 6, 2025, 3:16 PM

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if there is a mod, how is it called?

errant dome Apr 6, 2025, 3:17 PM

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changehostslot

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tho iirc its specifically for host, if u want 2 do it as client easiest way is just locking slots or joining in a specific order

brazen storm Apr 6, 2025, 3:21 PM

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alr ty ty

sage pulsar Apr 6, 2025, 8:24 PM

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how doable is r4a1 solo secondary

fathom ice Apr 6, 2025, 8:25 PM

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bring a sentry and ur chill

civic wave Apr 6, 2025, 8:28 PM

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sage pulsar how doable is r4a1 solo secondary

very

prime musk Apr 6, 2025, 8:43 PM

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if you're struggling you can alarm cancel all the hard alarms

civic wave Apr 6, 2025, 8:46 PM

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prime musk if you're struggling you can alarm cancel all the hard alarms

this sounds so demented and i'm not sure how well it'd actually work

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given you'd either be kiting the uplink waves to pull the alarm, and then go back to the uplink

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or have the alarm waves on you when doing the uplink

fathom ice Apr 6, 2025, 8:48 PM

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isn't it like

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bunch of class 3's

civic wave Apr 6, 2025, 8:49 PM

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yea

fathom ice Apr 6, 2025, 8:50 PM

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yea idk why would u

sage pulsar Apr 6, 2025, 8:54 PM

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how big are the uplink waves

fathom ice Apr 6, 2025, 8:56 PM

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3 every 15 was it

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or 10

prime musk Apr 6, 2025, 9:04 PM

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civic wave this sounds so demented and i'm not sure how well it'd actually work

it is super easy
source: i have done it

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the uplinks are short so you can set up final code before you have to shoot pretty much

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then you kite away and the tiles are really good (enemy movement is slow)

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and then there are good door setups for turning around and getting back to uplink terms

prime musk Apr 6, 2025, 9:06 PM

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fathom ice yea idk why would u

the cluster class 3 in beeg room sucks bad solo

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the class 2 and other class 3 are ez but cancelling is easier than playing them if you know kiting basics

ocean lance Apr 7, 2025, 12:00 AM

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solo players trying their hardest not to go long

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IMPOSSIBLE

prime musk Apr 7, 2025, 12:01 AM

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if the game gave me enough res to shoot a lot of the long kiting wouldn't happen

hybrid pine Apr 7, 2025, 1:15 AM

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what is the "surprise" box?

ocean spindle Apr 7, 2025, 1:27 AM

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hybrid pine what is the "surprise" box?

a box that has spawned cuz thee pickups overpass the boxes that can appear i think? that or it was backwards

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but either way its a bug

soft crater Apr 7, 2025, 3:57 AM

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(Nuh uh. I found a slendo [speedrun version])

ocean spindle Apr 7, 2025, 3:57 AM

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nooooo D:

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slendo would never speedrun

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why? cuz he skill issue

grizzled patrol Apr 7, 2025, 4:48 AM

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ocean spindle but either way its a bug

Was Back then. Now the one you find in R7D1 and R8E2 are Just easter eggs i guess

ocean spindle Apr 7, 2025, 11:38 AM

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grizzled patrol Was Back then. Now the one you find in R7D1 and R8E2 are Just easter eggs i gues...

no they very much are a bug still

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u can make them appear by accident if u create a level

prime musk Apr 7, 2025, 4:59 PM

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@tardy ingot it's the 4th clear and all the clears are solos it's so bad

tardy ingot Apr 7, 2025, 4:59 PM

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kek

hasty crane Apr 7, 2025, 7:29 PM

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does the gtfo depth achievement "the inner" care if I win the mission
or can i just grind loading into a mission and dying

grizzled patrol Apr 7, 2025, 7:29 PM

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no you can reload one mission

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peepogrin

hasty crane Apr 7, 2025, 7:29 PM

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any suggestions on best mission

grizzled patrol Apr 7, 2025, 7:30 PM

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the tutorial

hasty crane Apr 7, 2025, 7:30 PM

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fair ig

tardy ingot Apr 7, 2025, 7:30 PM

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hasty crane does the gtfo depth achievement "the inner" care if I win the mission or can i j...

you have to beat the mission yes

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if you rly wanna grind, R8A1 is the fastest for depth you gain. Iirc you only need like 30 or so extra clears after full clearing the game?

grizzled patrol Apr 7, 2025, 7:31 PM

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tardy ingot you have to beat the mission yes

cmon man. why would you save him from wasting a hour of his life

hasty crane Apr 7, 2025, 7:31 PM

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grizzled patrol cmon man. why would you save him from wasting a hour of his life

evil

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hit him with the "does he know"

grizzled patrol Apr 7, 2025, 7:32 PM

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Clueless

sturdy dew Apr 7, 2025, 8:33 PM

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Potentially going to make a new coloured role for speedrunning that is between "Speed"runner and CompetitionSage

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since E tier is gonna have a lot of variance in time probably

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any suggestions for colours or names

tardy ingot Apr 7, 2025, 8:34 PM

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sturdy dew Potentially going to make a new coloured role for speedrunning that is between "...

Dont

burnt inlet Apr 7, 2025, 8:34 PM

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Eva wants to keep the supremacy

tardy ingot Apr 7, 2025, 8:34 PM

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No

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Its more like

burnt inlet Apr 7, 2025, 8:34 PM

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(Prolly a good thing tbh)

sturdy dew Apr 7, 2025, 8:34 PM

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colours cant be too close to dev/admin/CM/moderator colours

tardy ingot Apr 7, 2025, 8:34 PM

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Theres no good reason to divide it into 3

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Keep it as 2

burnt inlet Apr 7, 2025, 8:35 PM

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”So close” (or if the Word limit allows it ”so close yet so far”)

sturdy glen Apr 7, 2025, 8:35 PM

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3 is good cuz we get to have the completion role for the run

little pilot Apr 7, 2025, 8:36 PM

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3 roles could work better imo, but idk how the time is gonna be set for the middle one

sturdy glen Apr 7, 2025, 8:36 PM

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20 25 50 was the thought

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somewhere around there

tardy ingot Apr 7, 2025, 8:36 PM

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clear level (wow a speedrun competition with that wowe)
moderate speed
speedrun speed

tardy ingot Apr 7, 2025, 8:36 PM

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sturdy glen 20 25 50 was the thought

Ah r5e1

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I was on r8e2 rn especially

sturdy glen Apr 7, 2025, 8:37 PM

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this should be stemming from ray asking I think

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which was r5e1 in mind

sturdy dew Apr 7, 2025, 8:37 PM

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my thoughts for the times would be

WR pace - Challenge Sage

Somewhat above average speedrun pace - New role

Beat my time for the level - "Speed"runner

sturdy dew Apr 7, 2025, 8:37 PM

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sturdy glen this should be stemming from ray asking I think

yeah thats what brought the idea up

sturdy glen Apr 7, 2025, 8:37 PM

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WR pace would be funny

burnt inlet Apr 7, 2025, 8:37 PM

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sturdy dew my thoughts for the times would be WR pace - Challenge Sage Somewhat above ave...

Why not just speedrunner for the new role

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Without quotation marks

sturdy dew Apr 7, 2025, 8:38 PM

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i thought of that but i dunno

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might be too boring

burnt inlet Apr 7, 2025, 8:38 PM

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Zzzrunner?

sturdy dew Apr 7, 2025, 8:38 PM

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might make the new role the WR pace one too

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and then name it summin like "Doesnt touch grass"

burnt inlet Apr 7, 2025, 8:38 PM

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”Quicksprinter”

little pilot Apr 7, 2025, 8:39 PM

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sturdy dew and then name it summin like "Doesnt touch grass"

"GrassDoubter"

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or "GrassSkeptic"

sturdy dew Apr 7, 2025, 8:40 PM

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"fast"

burnt inlet Apr 7, 2025, 8:40 PM

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little pilot or "GrassSkeptic"

PollenAllergy

civic wave Apr 7, 2025, 8:41 PM

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WR pace for a lot of E levels would be fucked

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because the times are fairly optimised

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granted there's some rough spots here and there

sturdy dew Apr 7, 2025, 8:42 PM

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are the top runs on the speedrun.com board the wr ones?

tardy ingot Apr 7, 2025, 8:43 PM

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typically yes

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rn theres only like 2 unverified ones

sturdy dew Apr 7, 2025, 8:44 PM

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ic ic

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yeah WR pace might be a bit extreme

frail heart Apr 7, 2025, 8:44 PM

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For the e tiers all the runs on src rn are the WR’s

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For r5e1, could have one time need 2-2 split or something

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Though idk how fucked that is

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Like sub 19 or smth

sturdy glen Apr 7, 2025, 8:45 PM

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its kinda hard to force 2-2 cuz its not always super time positive

frail heart Apr 7, 2025, 8:45 PM

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Fair

sturdy dew Apr 7, 2025, 8:46 PM

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uhrm whats 2-2

frail heart Apr 7, 2025, 8:46 PM

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I guess sub 20 is good

frail heart Apr 7, 2025, 8:46 PM

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sturdy dew uhrm whats 2-2

Fucked

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It’s wr strat

tardy ingot Apr 7, 2025, 8:46 PM

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sturdy dew uhrm whats 2-2

A strat (2-2

frail heart Apr 7, 2025, 8:46 PM

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Rng dependent

sturdy dew Apr 7, 2025, 8:46 PM

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ic

frail heart Apr 7, 2025, 8:47 PM

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Idk like is this comp meant to be accessible?

sturdy dew Apr 7, 2025, 8:47 PM

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nope

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its the complete opposite of the first comp

frail heart Apr 7, 2025, 8:47 PM

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Then just have 2 times

sturdy glen Apr 7, 2025, 8:47 PM

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I agree with just removing the 50 time

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but ive seen the argument for why it should exist and its agreeable

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so idc either way

frail heart Apr 7, 2025, 8:48 PM

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Do like sub 20 and sub 30 or something

little pilot Apr 7, 2025, 8:48 PM

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team lets make it accesible at least for the lower bracket

sturdy dew Apr 7, 2025, 8:48 PM

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well we dont even know what level its gonna be yet

civic wave Apr 7, 2025, 8:48 PM

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r5e1

sturdy dew Apr 7, 2025, 8:48 PM

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unless you want those times for all of them

civic wave Apr 7, 2025, 8:48 PM

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it's going to be kds deep

little pilot Apr 7, 2025, 8:48 PM

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we can bait a few people with joining and doing a cell skip

sturdy dew Apr 7, 2025, 8:48 PM

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sub 20 E2

sturdy dew Apr 7, 2025, 8:48 PM

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civic wave it's going to be kds deep

wanna bet

little pilot Apr 7, 2025, 8:48 PM

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if the easier* time is only achievable by people who have already done more cell skips than normal r5e1 clears it aint gonna be fun

frail heart Apr 7, 2025, 8:48 PM

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sturdy dew sub 20 E2

Actually possible

sturdy dew Apr 7, 2025, 8:48 PM

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boooo

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ruined my joke

frail heart Apr 7, 2025, 8:49 PM

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TROLLED

sturdy dew Apr 7, 2025, 8:49 PM

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banned

little pilot Apr 7, 2025, 8:49 PM

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when are we grinding for sub 20 e2

tardy ingot Apr 7, 2025, 8:49 PM

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Sub 13 when

frail heart Apr 7, 2025, 8:49 PM

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little pilot if the easier* time is only achievable by people who have already done more cell...

This is the reason I asked if it’s meant to be accessible

little pilot Apr 7, 2025, 8:49 PM

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when is 10cc releasing e3 so auri can cook again

sturdy dew Apr 7, 2025, 8:49 PM

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little pilot if the easier* time is only achievable by people who have already done more cell...

well there will almost always be the possibility to get the "speed"running role

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the coloured role/s are the only ones which are "hard" to get

tardy ingot Apr 7, 2025, 8:50 PM

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Having 2 roles should generally be fine

3 just adds clutter

little pilot Apr 7, 2025, 8:50 PM

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sturdy dew well there will almost always be the possibility to get the "speed"running role

keep in mind this is a level that for these people is at best 30minutes, so the time commitment is also much higher than r3d1, i genuienly think the easier time should be accesible no matter what.

sturdy dew Apr 7, 2025, 8:51 PM

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whats the point in being an admin if i cant add clutter

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dont you want a rainbow in chat

frail heart Apr 7, 2025, 8:51 PM

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Like realistically, if the level was e2, that’s already harder than doing a cell skip

sturdy dew Apr 7, 2025, 8:51 PM

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little pilot keep in mind this is a level that for these people is at best 30minutes, so the ...

the easier role time will be my clear time

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so its gonna be easy

frail heart Apr 7, 2025, 8:51 PM

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“Complete the level”

sturdy glen Apr 7, 2025, 8:51 PM

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soy we got a sub 25 in 1 try with a random pub who hadnt played r5e1 before period

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so 25 works

civic wave Apr 7, 2025, 8:51 PM

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sturdy dew dont you want a rainbow in chat

🏳️‍🌈

sturdy dew Apr 7, 2025, 8:51 PM

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frail heart “Complete the level”

nah im commited

sturdy glen Apr 7, 2025, 8:51 PM

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👍

sturdy dew Apr 7, 2025, 8:52 PM

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even if its E2 i will get a clear

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i will lfg from the moment the level is chosen until i can beat it if i have to

tardy ingot Apr 7, 2025, 8:52 PM

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Just get a nice run with 2-3 vets

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Like we did last time

civic wave Apr 7, 2025, 8:52 PM

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hit up beth and hani

frail heart Apr 7, 2025, 8:52 PM

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Can we all agree to not join soy pubs

tardy ingot Apr 7, 2025, 8:52 PM

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the issue is r8e2 is just a normal clear likely

tardy ingot Apr 7, 2025, 8:52 PM

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frail heart Can we all agree to not join soy pubs

LOL

sturdy dew Apr 7, 2025, 8:52 PM

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frail heart Can we all agree to not join soy pubs

i dont need you

frail heart Apr 7, 2025, 8:52 PM

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sturdy dew i dont need you

😬

sturdy dew Apr 7, 2025, 8:53 PM

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dont grimace at me

frail heart Apr 7, 2025, 8:53 PM

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Grimace shake

sturdy dew Apr 7, 2025, 8:53 PM

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shake your booty

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PirateSimon

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pirate

frail heart Apr 7, 2025, 8:53 PM

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AmogusSmexy

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Wait

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Are those fucking derpixon logos in the background

sturdy dew Apr 7, 2025, 8:55 PM

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i dont think so

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her logo has more of a circle at the top of the D

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its probably some cryptocurrency

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D bucks

frail heart Apr 7, 2025, 8:56 PM

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D bucks goes crazy

sturdy dew Apr 7, 2025, 8:56 PM

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nobody steal that idea

topaz anvil Apr 7, 2025, 8:59 PM

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frail heart Are those fucking derpixon logos in the background

🔥

minor fractal Apr 7, 2025, 10:54 PM

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Just to advocate for the 3rd role a bit

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The idea is just that even in the R3D1 comp, there was a big gap between teams w/ players who could hit the goal time over and over again, and teams that could grind most of the week and never hit it.

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Having a hard time and an intermediate time lets the comp have incentives for the already very competent teams to go for a time that's actually somewhat hard, while intermediate teams that are skill progging on the level have a target time that they can actually hit with a reasonable amount of effort.

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If it's just one of those times, either experienced teams will be able to exceed the time goal every single run because it's really easy, or intermediate teams have a very low chance of making any kind of progress, even if they put in a lot of work to learn the level and improve PBs.

native sun Apr 7, 2025, 11:53 PM

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I think you could have 3 times and the top 2 get the same colour but different roles

prime musk Apr 7, 2025, 11:56 PM

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call the roles "competition participant" "good player" and "better player"

sturdy glen Apr 8, 2025, 3:17 AM

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💀

hardy grotto Apr 8, 2025, 3:19 AM

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i dont know if i really care about a 3rd role honestly

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im down to make the harder role to achieve a bit easier

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but either way it just does not matter to me

prime musk Apr 8, 2025, 3:23 AM

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hardy grotto im down to make the harder role to achieve a bit easier

beth when she realises the gravity of tour guiding cs:

slow badge Apr 8, 2025, 4:08 AM

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Why do sleepers have shitty asses?

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And why they caked up?

ocean spindle Apr 8, 2025, 4:08 AM

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who tells u the huamn infected before them wasnt

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they are using a host

slow badge Apr 8, 2025, 4:10 AM

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Did you have a stroke on that first message?

native sun Apr 8, 2025, 4:12 AM

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"who tells u the huamn infected before them wasnt (caked up?)"

ocean spindle Apr 8, 2025, 4:15 AM

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i am extremely sleepy

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and i have math homework

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and i wanna play gtfo

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i hate taxes

slow badge Apr 8, 2025, 4:16 AM

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get some sleep then the math can wait

ocean spindle Apr 8, 2025, 4:16 AM

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n e v e r

slow badge Apr 8, 2025, 4:17 AM

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just be a man then and do meth

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meth and math go hand in hand

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how do you think steven hawking did it?

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thats right Epstine's adrenochrom and meth

ocean spindle Apr 8, 2025, 4:18 AM

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do u thikn steve ever hawked his laws

slow badge Apr 8, 2025, 4:18 AM

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did he hawk is tuah?

ocean spindle Apr 8, 2025, 4:18 AM

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i searched epstein thinking it was einstein

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oops

slow badge Apr 8, 2025, 4:19 AM

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no no i ment epstine

ocean spindle Apr 8, 2025, 4:19 AM

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do u think epstine ever... islands his, musk
idk

slow badge Apr 8, 2025, 4:19 AM

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ever space or your x till you musk?

ocean spindle Apr 8, 2025, 4:21 AM

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i twittered on my blue till i 144 character limit

slow badge Apr 8, 2025, 4:21 AM

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got my toe curlin like toothpaste

ocean spindle Apr 8, 2025, 4:22 AM

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got my tube squished like toothpaste tube

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it hurts

slow badge Apr 8, 2025, 4:23 AM

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YYEEEEOOUUUUUCCCHHHH

crisp salmon Apr 8, 2025, 8:21 AM

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What is the best main to pair w/ scattergun?

tardy ingot Apr 8, 2025, 8:23 AM

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Generally: Sawed Off (since its the best main)

To get general small clear but with range: hel revolver

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usually the question to what main pairs well with x special just leads to the best mains anyway

crisp salmon Apr 8, 2025, 8:25 AM

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thanks
how did sawed off getting +1 magic bullet propel it from people considering it to be B or C tier power to simply the best even if your special is a shotty?

tiny wyvern Apr 8, 2025, 8:27 AM

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crisp salmon thanks how did sawed off getting +1 magic bullet propel it from people consideri...

Not much really
Sawed off is honestly just goated

grizzled patrol Apr 8, 2025, 8:27 AM

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crisp salmon thanks how did sawed off getting +1 magic bullet propel it from people consideri...

Magic bullet?

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Oh you mean the extra in the clip

crisp salmon Apr 8, 2025, 8:28 AM

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grizzled patrol Magic bullet?

where do you stuff the 4th bullet in a 3 breach sawed off shotgun

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magic

grizzled patrol Apr 8, 2025, 8:28 AM

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Tbh i think it was Always slept on. The extra bullet Just gave more insentive to Play it

tardy ingot Apr 8, 2025, 8:29 AM

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crisp salmon thanks how did sawed off getting +1 magic bullet propel it from people consideri...

Sawed off was already good before the buff to 4 mag. At absolute worst a decent A-tier

Sawed off before that (og rundowns especially) because it had:

a slower reload
less than 30 dmg
less range

crisp salmon Apr 8, 2025, 8:29 AM

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yeah probs

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I started in r7 not an og

topaz anvil Apr 8, 2025, 8:30 AM

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Let's just say that 4th bullet smells brown pepeevil

tardy ingot Apr 8, 2025, 8:30 AM

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with alt r6 I started rating it highly as I tried it a lot more. r8 made it overboard (yet at the time still underrated by most, even ray, tru and co)

But everyone has realized how busted it is since then

topaz anvil Apr 8, 2025, 8:31 AM

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Alt r8?

grizzled patrol Apr 8, 2025, 8:32 AM

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Funny how people call Hel shotty a secondary in Main while sawn of is literally Just Shotgun with a smaller clip

crisp salmon Apr 8, 2025, 8:33 AM

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tardy ingot with alt r6 I started rating it highly as I tried it a lot more. r8 made it over...

what else do you feel is slept on in the game right now?

tardy ingot Apr 8, 2025, 8:34 AM

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crisp salmon what else do you feel is slept on in the game right now?

By experienced players
Or more general community?

grizzled patrol Apr 8, 2025, 8:34 AM

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The Game is solved

tardy ingot Apr 8, 2025, 8:34 AM

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grizzled patrol The Game is solved

yesnt

Its not like theres a hidden op pick overlooked

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but minor stuff still gets found out here and there

grizzled patrol Apr 8, 2025, 8:34 AM

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Personally i would say slug, but it Has some legitemate downsides

crisp salmon Apr 8, 2025, 8:34 AM

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tardy ingot By experienced players Or more general community?

both I wanna try to learn more guns

tiny wyvern Apr 8, 2025, 8:34 AM

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Just use more of them tbh

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Almost all of them are fine

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Once you learn them well enough a good 75% are viable all the time

tardy ingot Apr 8, 2025, 8:35 AM

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grizzled patrol Personally i would say slug, but it Has some legitemate downsides

Yea

Slug is underrated. Its not great, but not shit at all. It does have some insane matchups like into flyers aswell funnily enoug

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Hel auto sentry is legit good if used correctly. You just need to know HOW

tiny wyvern Apr 8, 2025, 8:35 AM

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The other 25% would be more situational, level-centered picks

tardy ingot Apr 8, 2025, 8:36 AM

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like, unironically in the right situation its stupidly good

crisp salmon Apr 8, 2025, 8:36 AM

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tardy ingot Hel auto sentry is legit good if used correctly. You just need to know HOW

what about shotty sentry

tardy ingot Apr 8, 2025, 8:36 AM

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crisp salmon what about shotty sentry

Not

tiny wyvern Apr 8, 2025, 8:36 AM

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It can work well

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Just needs good placement
...Well, sometimes

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Sometimes it just overshoots and misses half its clip anyways

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It's mathematically bad

tardy ingot Apr 8, 2025, 8:36 AM

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Shotgun sentry is you gambling that it hits consistently

The insane part is that when shotgun sentry does well, its only as good as hel auto sentry roughly.
But shotgun sentry legit only does good 10% of the time

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It shoots dead bodies 1-3 times

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like wtf how dogshit can it be

grizzled patrol Apr 8, 2025, 8:38 AM

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crisp salmon what about shotty sentry

When there is a Booster that is designed to Work Well with it and is still Bad...

tiny wyvern Apr 8, 2025, 8:38 AM

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sometimes it feels like it shoots in burst

crisp salmon Apr 8, 2025, 8:38 AM

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today someone took CPU speed and shotty sentry and it legit missed like 7 shots as a striker ran by

tiny wyvern Apr 8, 2025, 8:38 AM

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Yeah

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It does that consistently

tardy ingot Apr 8, 2025, 8:38 AM

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crisp salmon today someone took CPU speed and shotty sentry and it legit missed like 7 shots ...

Just dont pick it
Like ever

crisp salmon Apr 8, 2025, 8:38 AM

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sad

tardy ingot Apr 8, 2025, 8:38 AM

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Even im not mean enough to include shotgun sentry into challenge runs lol

crisp salmon Apr 8, 2025, 8:40 AM

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and is assault rifle still bad for no reason?

grizzled patrol Apr 8, 2025, 8:40 AM

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Its Just a relic of old Game Design

tardy ingot Apr 8, 2025, 8:40 AM

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„no reason“

crisp salmon Apr 8, 2025, 8:40 AM

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tardy ingot „no reason“

what is the reason?

tardy ingot Apr 8, 2025, 8:40 AM

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AR simply hasnt been buffed since OG R6

tardy ingot Apr 8, 2025, 8:41 AM

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crisp salmon what is the reason?

High pickrate cuz its an AR, handles „well“ and beginners tend to stick to their shit

crisp salmon Apr 8, 2025, 8:41 AM

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10 chambers balance off of pickrate?

tardy ingot Apr 8, 2025, 8:42 AM

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its been semi stated
They did add that it was a mix of that and other stats (on steam discussions)

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but like

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Pickrate Onikara_Error_500ezgif

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its honestly very traceable aswell if you look at many of the balance decisions

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at least imo

tiny wyvern Apr 8, 2025, 8:42 AM

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Bullpup also is sorta like that?

tardy ingot Apr 8, 2025, 8:42 AM

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tiny wyvern Bullpup also is sorta like that?

Yea

crisp salmon Apr 8, 2025, 8:42 AM

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I hate bullpup reload

grizzled patrol Apr 8, 2025, 8:43 AM

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tardy ingot High pickrate cuz its an AR, handles „well“ and beginners tend to stick to their...

I disagree. I would rather say that when they See an assault rifle, they assumed that its a Well rounded weapon Just Like in all other games

tardy ingot Apr 8, 2025, 8:43 AM

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grizzled patrol I disagree. I would rather say that when they See an assault rifle, they assumed...

Thats the first point of the sentence

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lol

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its just like sniper in that regard

grizzled patrol Apr 8, 2025, 8:44 AM

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I dont believe Handling Well is the Same. A gun can be specializing and handle well

crisp salmon Apr 8, 2025, 8:44 AM

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tardy ingot Yea Slug is underrated. Its not great, but not shit at all. It does have some i...

what special do you like w/ slug?

grizzled patrol Apr 8, 2025, 8:44 AM

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High cal

tiny wyvern Apr 8, 2025, 8:44 AM

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Slug choke if you want to see your ammo evaporate

crisp salmon Apr 8, 2025, 8:44 AM

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grizzled patrol High cal

fr?

tiny wyvern Apr 8, 2025, 8:44 AM

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High cal or rev otherwise honestly

tardy ingot Apr 8, 2025, 8:45 AM

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crisp salmon what special do you like w/ slug?

none, cuz I dont rly enjoy playing slug

But you likely would play slug as a quickswap option which works with high cal (also one)

tardy ingot Apr 8, 2025, 8:45 AM

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tiny wyvern High cal or rev otherwise honestly

Not revo rly

grizzled patrol Apr 8, 2025, 8:45 AM

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crisp salmon fr?

You can cycle between them Like Double pump

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Its Not efficient, but funny

tardy ingot Apr 8, 2025, 8:45 AM

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unless you want to swap between the guns for chargers

crisp salmon Apr 8, 2025, 8:45 AM

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i feel like I would have no ammo with slug high cal

tardy ingot Apr 8, 2025, 8:45 AM

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crisp salmon i feel like I would have no ammo with slug high cal

what weapon would you have ammo then lol

tiny wyvern Apr 8, 2025, 8:45 AM

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Nah you get a decent amount
... Then again, slug has ammo issues anyways

tardy ingot Apr 8, 2025, 8:46 AM

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slug is low yea
High cal is slightly above average

crisp salmon Apr 8, 2025, 8:46 AM

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tardy ingot what weapon would you have ammo then lol

idk my fav is combat shotty

grizzled patrol Apr 8, 2025, 8:46 AM

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Personally slug Sniper is a absolute meme, but i Love this loadout

tiny wyvern Apr 8, 2025, 8:46 AM

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slug sniper is nice if it's big heavy

grizzled patrol Apr 8, 2025, 8:46 AM

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grizzled patrol Personally slug Sniper is a absolute meme, but i Love this loadout

Using slug Just in Case someone is going to bite your or tm8s ass

tardy ingot Apr 8, 2025, 8:47 AM

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Slug sniper shotgun sentry and spear

then wake up a mom and let it birth

grizzled patrol Apr 8, 2025, 8:48 AM

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tardy ingot Slug sniper shotgun sentry and spear then wake up a mom and let it birth

Shotgun sentry the Mom and Sniper the Babies obvio

tardy ingot Apr 8, 2025, 8:49 AM

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grizzled patrol Shotgun sentry the Mom and Sniper the Babies obvio

You are joking

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But slug kills mom faster than sniper

grizzled patrol Apr 8, 2025, 8:53 AM

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Yeah ofc. If only the Sniper "buff" was Not reverted

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anguish

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2 tapping with Sniper and finishing with sawn of would Go hard

tiny wyvern Apr 8, 2025, 8:57 AM

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didn't they fix it and let it double tap again?

tardy ingot Apr 8, 2025, 8:57 AM

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grizzled patrol Apr 8, 2025, 8:58 AM

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tiny wyvern didn't they fix it and let it double tap again?

No lmao

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It was one of the emergency patches

tiny wyvern Apr 8, 2025, 8:58 AM

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huh
well someone told me it got reverted
(I love misinfo)

tardy ingot Apr 8, 2025, 8:59 AM

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The no dmg cap got reverted

grizzled patrol Apr 8, 2025, 8:59 AM

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tiny wyvern huh well someone told me it got reverted (I love misinfo)

#patch-notes message

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I think the only exception is the Nightmare Scout whos Tumors behave differently

tardy ingot Apr 8, 2025, 9:12 AM

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grizzled patrol I think the only exception is the Nightmare Scout whos Tumors behave differently

They arent tumors

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Thats it

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They work just like a head

grizzled patrol Apr 8, 2025, 9:14 AM

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Having 3 Heads is crazy

topaz anvil Apr 8, 2025, 9:22 AM

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grizzled patrol Having 3 Heads is crazy

So no head?

burnt inlet Apr 8, 2025, 10:55 AM

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grizzled patrol Having 3 Heads is crazy

Don’t Eva have like 9 feet or was that soy?

grizzled patrol Apr 8, 2025, 11:21 AM

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burnt inlet Don’t Eva have like 9 feet or was that soy?

Yep words

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The brainworms have taken over spewing random words

burnt inlet Apr 8, 2025, 11:22 AM

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biocom took over

native sun Apr 8, 2025, 11:52 AM

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tardy ingot They arent tumors

They are tumors, back multi just interacts strangely with tumor damage capping. (Specifically the damage is capped before back multi is applied, though the tumor still 'takes' the bonus damage from back multi)

tardy ingot Apr 8, 2025, 11:55 AM

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native sun They are tumors, back multi just interacts strangely with tumor damage capping. ...

I presume this is from datablocks? As the only real way to test this would be sniper with dmg booster on front tumor no?

native sun Apr 8, 2025, 11:58 AM

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tardy ingot I presume this is from datablocks? As the only real way to test this would be sn...

Damage boosted sniper while getting partial back multi is most telling

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E.g. 30% damage booster firing at 60 degrees (~1.75x back multi) should comfortably kill as
1.3 * 40.01 * 2.0025 * 1.75 ~= 182 which is bigger than 161 (Nightmare scout HP)
But it doesn't kill, because damage gets capped to 81 before back multi, so you instead only deal
81 * 1.75 = 141.75 < 161

neat owl Apr 8, 2025, 12:13 PM

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Nightmare scout only has a 1.75x back multi?

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so i assume wiki is outdated as it says 2x back multi

native sun Apr 8, 2025, 12:14 PM

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neat owl Nightmare scout only has a 1.75x back multi?

No, the situation I'm discussing is assuming you aren't getting max back multi

neat owl Apr 8, 2025, 12:14 PM

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ohhhhh

native sun Apr 8, 2025, 12:14 PM

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Back multi scales with the angle

neat owl Apr 8, 2025, 12:14 PM

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really? so whats the best angle?

native sun Apr 8, 2025, 12:14 PM

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Directly behind them

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https://gtfo.wiki.gg/wiki/Back_Multiplier

neat owl Apr 8, 2025, 12:16 PM

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is wikigg more reliable than fandom?

native sun Apr 8, 2025, 12:17 PM

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The official wiki has migrated from fandom to wiki.gg, all the information that was on the fandom one is now on the wiki.gg one, and going forward the wiki.gg one is the one that will receive updates and corrections

neat owl Apr 8, 2025, 12:17 PM

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Noted, Thanks! also, didnt know you were a mod, sorry for pinging you in #gtfo-media 😅

native sun Apr 8, 2025, 12:18 PM

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neat owl Noted, Thanks! also, didnt know you were a mod, sorry for pinging you in <#58506...

Glad to be pinged and also glad to be there for the clear

shy tangle Apr 8, 2025, 6:21 PM

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Hi all, what do you think is better for r2e1 duo between burst and hel auto sentry? We've been running bio + mines but are considering bringing a sentry to make some of the later parts more manageable

grizzled patrol Apr 8, 2025, 6:22 PM

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shy tangle Hi all, what do you think is better for r2e1 duo between burst and hel auto sent...

Shotgun sentry

errant dome Apr 8, 2025, 6:22 PM

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hel auto sentry by far

tiny wyvern Apr 8, 2025, 6:22 PM

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Don't listen to male pls, hel auto usually is best

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For duos anyways afaik

errant dome Apr 8, 2025, 6:22 PM

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for most lvls u want burst or sniper

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r2e1 is an exception

prime musk Apr 8, 2025, 6:23 PM

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hel auto sentry is the better choice.
an example run that uses it would be gerz and tru's run

errant dome Apr 8, 2025, 6:23 PM

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hel auto destroys on that lvl

grizzled patrol Apr 8, 2025, 6:24 PM

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tiny wyvern Don't listen to male pls, hel auto usually is best

9141standingcat

shy tangle Apr 8, 2025, 6:26 PM

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Thank you! We've been relying on mines to save ammo but since we've gotten much better at killing it might be time to put them away for something better for alarms

tiny wyvern Apr 8, 2025, 6:27 PM

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grizzled patrol <:9141standingcat:1293092624374169720>

(Sorry I was genuinely worried they'd go ahead and use shotgun sentry)

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(I much rather not risk that... suffering)

hardy grotto Apr 8, 2025, 6:27 PM

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if ur running hel auto you wanna place it so it gets back damage on enemies

prime musk Apr 8, 2025, 6:27 PM

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generally you want to gear around clearing the hardest sections of the level since you don't have much loadout flexibility in duos, and for r2e1 that would the the two alarms at the end of the level

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(and hel auto is the best tool for it really)

shy tangle Apr 8, 2025, 6:31 PM

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We just started getting to that point, so I'm sure we'll improve our gameplan as we get more familiar with it. I'll try a couple mineless runs to get used to it

prime musk Apr 8, 2025, 6:32 PM

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assuming you're shooting the shadow stuff, remember you can run away. a lot. shadows are slow, so shooting a bit and retreating early can save a lot of health

tiny wyvern Apr 8, 2025, 6:32 PM

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Is mineless a good idea
(idk I haven't ran duos for more difficult levels)
(I suppose bio is really useful)

prime musk Apr 8, 2025, 6:32 PM

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same goes for blood door when you don't have mines

shy tangle Apr 8, 2025, 6:32 PM

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Really it's a learning game of finding our chokepoints to clear enemies from (especially hybrid waves)

prime musk Apr 8, 2025, 6:33 PM

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tiny wyvern Is mineless a good idea (idk I haven't ran duos for more difficult levels) (I su...

all the E tier duos take bio for a reason (exception being cs duo which is arguably cfoam mines, but that is different from just getting the clear)

shy tangle Apr 8, 2025, 6:34 PM

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prime musk assuming you're shooting the shadow stuff, remember you can run away. a lot. sha...

That's what we've been relying on mines for. Usually melee + shoot a big and then running to door to clear the room, so we'll learn how to handle it in other ways

prime musk Apr 8, 2025, 6:35 PM

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running to door is good, my point is that shooting a few enemies there and retreating further lowers the pressure even further since shadows are slow

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the key is retreating before getting overwhelmed and sacrificing health, since space is a resource that is "free"

shy tangle Apr 8, 2025, 6:36 PM

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Oh yeah we do that all the time. Since I'm running double shotgun I hide behind chokepoints, take a couple shots and run away to the next chokepoint while my duo shoots from longer distance

prime musk Apr 8, 2025, 6:37 PM

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wowies good strats

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i think with sentry you have this in the bag if you made it to error with just mines

shy tangle Apr 8, 2025, 6:38 PM

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We've died too many times to stealth meleeing bigs in floodlights

prime musk Apr 8, 2025, 6:38 PM

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10m rule when shooting!!

shy tangle Apr 8, 2025, 6:38 PM

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But that's like... really cheesy

prime musk Apr 8, 2025, 6:39 PM

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using 10m riule isn't really cheesy

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it's just enemy knowledge

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like "how do i fight this enemy"
using the specifics of its behaviour to your advantage is just playing well

shy tangle Apr 8, 2025, 6:45 PM

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I think our main issue health-wise actually is hybrids

prime musk Apr 8, 2025, 6:47 PM

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what ranged weapon is your duo partner bringing?

shy tangle Apr 8, 2025, 6:48 PM

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Precision rifle, they prefer it over PDW

prime musk Apr 8, 2025, 6:49 PM

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pr isn't bad but it's has kinda low dmg
into hybrids you need 8 headshots and 1 bodyshot to kill

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realistically you have to inbetween scans burst it down with close range weapons while keeping it staggered on scan, or swap to a higher-damage option

shy tangle Apr 8, 2025, 6:50 PM

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Do they also respawn on alarms like the smalls?

prime musk Apr 8, 2025, 6:50 PM

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they do

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the way the hybrids are programmed on 2nd alarm in r2e1, is that they replace shooters in the waves

shy tangle Apr 8, 2025, 6:52 PM

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Good to know

tardy ingot Apr 8, 2025, 6:53 PM

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prime musk pr isn't bad but it's has kinda low dmg into hybrids you need 8 headshots and 1 ...

the fuck

shy tangle Apr 8, 2025, 6:53 PM

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We'll figure out how to clean up that 2nd alarm, it's always been a bit of a problem because of the hybrids

prime musk Apr 8, 2025, 6:53 PM

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tardy ingot the fuck

wait im dumb

tardy ingot Apr 8, 2025, 6:53 PM

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hybrids have 150 hp
you do 13 x 2 x 1,3 dmg per headshot

prime musk Apr 8, 2025, 6:53 PM

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i forgor that hybrids have 2x head mult

grizzled patrol Apr 8, 2025, 6:53 PM

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prime musk the way the hybrids are programmed on 2nd alarm in r2e1, is that they *replace* ...

I Love fighting 6 Hybrids at the Same time

tardy ingot Apr 8, 2025, 6:53 PM

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you 5 shot on headshots

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like, its still not great since you dont see any projectiles and PR struggles into surges

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but its not THAT BAD LOL

prime musk Apr 8, 2025, 6:54 PM

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i did math and blindly trusted it, too bad i did the wrong math

prime musk Apr 8, 2025, 6:56 PM

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shy tangle We'll figure out how to clean up that 2nd alarm, it's always been a bit of a pro...

short kiting/pathing is big in that tile gl learning it

fluid bobcat Apr 8, 2025, 7:04 PM

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for R8E2, is there anyway to get the tanks during reactor waves to show up more consistently? one really good run we had yesterday got ended cuz the tank from wave 2 decided to show up 20 seconds into the start of wave 3, then those 3 tanks all showed up within 15 secs. was pretty frustrating -__-

topaz anvil Apr 8, 2025, 7:07 PM

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fluid bobcat for R8E2, is there anyway to get the tanks during reactor waves to show up more ...

waves get queued up. the faster you deal with reactor waves, the more regularly they appear

frail heart Apr 8, 2025, 7:09 PM

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that wouldnt be their problem

flat oar Apr 8, 2025, 7:09 PM

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fluid bobcat for R8E2, is there anyway to get the tanks during reactor waves to show up more ...

where're your team defence wave 2 maybe it got global spawn push if defence out of sec zone

frail heart Apr 8, 2025, 7:09 PM

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fluid bobcat for R8E2, is there anyway to get the tanks during reactor waves to show up more ...

where are you holding?

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sex zone!!!?!!?!?!??!!

flat oar Apr 8, 2025, 7:09 PM

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Noo

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Noooo

fluid bobcat Apr 8, 2025, 7:10 PM

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frail heart where are you holding?

we holding right outside bulkhead room

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we heard tank scream about one minute into wave two, but we were able to grab the 2nd code and resupply and setup again b4 it showed up

frail heart Apr 8, 2025, 7:11 PM

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fluid bobcat we holding right outside bulkhead room

That would be why. Its not a bad spot to hold, its actually quite good, but enemies spawn 3 rooms away from you and can sometimes get stuck, especially tanks

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tho i've never had it that bad

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I wouldnt stop holding there because if using the right strat its literally the best spot to hold

fluid bobcat Apr 8, 2025, 7:12 PM

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frail heart That would be why. Its not a bad spot to hold, its actually quite good, but enem...

yeah usually we have 3 hold in that room while one stays in the room connected to the resource room, idk the zones exactly

topaz anvil Apr 8, 2025, 7:12 PM

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you should hold inside bulkhead room 🙈

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good funnel

frail heart Apr 8, 2025, 7:13 PM

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fluid bobcat yeah usually we have 3 hold in that room while one stays in the room connected t...

Uhh you should have a person spawn blocking in D of 495

fluid bobcat Apr 8, 2025, 7:13 PM

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topaz anvil you should hold inside bulkhead room 🙈

i've heard that as well. im willing to try, especially if it helps with enemies getting stuck

fluid bobcat Apr 8, 2025, 7:13 PM

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frail heart Uhh you should have a person spawn blocking in D of 495

i think thats what we do

frail heart Apr 8, 2025, 7:13 PM

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and keep the bottom door of d closed

frail heart Apr 8, 2025, 7:13 PM

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fluid bobcat i think thats what we do

aight cool

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then they should all come down the hallway

fluid bobcat Apr 8, 2025, 7:14 PM

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frail heart and keep the bottom door of d closed

idk if we do that tho lmao

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lemme check