gtfo-related-questions

[low radish]

To sneak math in

[ocean spindle]

there's some formula in the wiki that uses the funny E math sign

[hollow frost]

that's what i was wondering, like damn if you're british you just get straight up bannable offence is crazy

[ocean spindle]

british r such silly guys

[low radish]

Wait bishop is British

[hollow frost]

oh i was just about to go in it again

[ocean spindle]

yes

[low radish]

What

[tiny wyvern]

Yes he is

[ocean spindle]

are u just findifn this out now

[low radish]

YEAH

[ocean spindle]

when he says "i'll cut u from asshole to breakfast"

smh

[hollow frost]

Bishop is a very british sounding name tho init

[low radish]

HE ACTUALLY IS NO WAY

[ocean spindle]

brah

[low radish]

I thought he is like Canadian

Or something

Not British

[little pilot]

no u dont, it took my soul and i barely got a 6 on my course

[tiny wyvern]

The canadians do not mald as hard as the british

[low radish]

:[

In general any tips on holding in R4E1 solo

I did leak a few last time so I want to check if any tips exist

Or just in general

Any help

It's really stressful to hold alone for me ngl

[civic wave]

take burst sentry

put burst sentry in good spot

shoot good

hold in non-stupid spot

preferably also use good guns

past that, you want to be aware of where your resources are and also be able to refill sentry if needed

[low radish]

Okay what is the food sentry spot?

And the non-stupid spot

I usually hold in the corridor, sentry on left

[civic wave]

on the slightly raised platform on the left if you're holding out, or just within the reactor sec door if you're doing reactor hold

[low radish]

I would hold on the raised platform with sentry to my left

In the corridor in the secondary door

Is it possible to hold in front of secondary door?

[civic wave]

yes, you can hold pretty much anywhere and it works

[low radish]

:O

I like to funnel them through right door

[little pilot]

yes, far easier to hold, can even be done without sentry and not much skill, the challenge becomes not having doors break and grabbing resources at the correct time

[civic wave]

it simply changes how you play a bit wirh when you run to plug code and how you get resources

[little pilot]

• putting in code if u need to

[civic wave]

which raised platform is this

[low radish]

Hey that sounds good! I could still use some sentry though

[low radish]

Middle one

In front of door

Usually has one locker

Stairs

[civic wave]

you generally want to stay level with the sleepers

easier to shoot and harder for them to give you the slip

[low radish]

The slip?

[civic wave]

get past you

get away from you

[low radish]

Oh yeah. In the corridor they used to sneak past ke

I'll try to hold infront of the door

It sounds the best

I'll try to hold with sawed off/ pump

How slower are shadows than strikers by the way

I always wondered about it

[fallen kite]

they move at half speed i think

so 2x slower

[low radish]

oh! thank you

[craggy pier]

Will you guys add survival mode such as in cod zombies? but like more non arcade and defensive?

[digital mural]

brother

[fathom ice]

yes

[digital mural]

game is done

[fathom ice]

i will

[digital mural]

ask the modders for something like that

[digital mural]

🙏

for real?

[fathom ice]

ofc

[craggy pier]

make it undone again

[fathom ice]

so true

[soft crater]

[topaz anvil]

basically exists

though it's limited

[burnt inlet]

R8E2 when timer runs out lol

[sick mauve]

also known as a surge alarm

[bright loom]

Will people be mad at me if I use weapon customization if I add thermal scopes to everything?

[fathom ice]

high likely

[bright loom]

Rip

For a while I had the urge to do that

Cuz I hate bio tracker

And I don't really like the precision rifle

Since I'm using carbine

[ocean spindle]

u dont have to use it urself

u can let someone else do it

[tardy ingot]

1. why
2. flashlight

[bright loom]

I do use flashlight

[ocean spindle]

givin thermal to everything would just be sort of cheaty

[bright loom]

True

You make a fair point

[ocean spindle]

pdw n prec rifle are made with that advantage in mind so

[bright loom]

No thermal scopes on everything it is

Anyways

If I use 3 main dmg boosters with sawed off

Would I just have a scatter gun?

[ocean spindle]

uh no

[fathom ice]

no

[ocean spindle]

u would need a 400 500% booster dmg

[bright loom]

Oh crap

[ocean spindle]

sawed offs 30 scatterguns 158

[tardy ingot]

153

[ocean spindle]

that

[bright loom]

Never knew that was the dmg difference

[tardy ingot]

dw

2nd highest non burst is at 40

Scatter is just stupid

[ocean spindle]

i was abouto ask"huh what which"

[fathom ice]

is choke 30

[ocean spindle]

my brain thought choke

idk why

choke is 30

[tardy ingot]

Yes

[fathom ice]

i'm sad

[tardy ingot]

well

not exactly

[ocean spindle]

be happy

[tardy ingot]

but yes

[ocean spindle]

dont get all 0.12823 with me

[bright loom]

Wait

Wut if scatter gun with 65% bonus dmg?

What could I 1 shot with that?

[fathom ice]

ngl choke needs an ammo buff and a reload buff

and it'll be good prob

[glad sun]

Give it a not 2.7 second reload

[ocean spindle]

nothing else

it already oneshots pretty much everything

[bright loom]

Aw

[ocean spindle]

and whatever it doesnt it needs 2 3 shots to do so

[bright loom]

But that 1 big mother tho

[ocean spindle]

idk how much u would need to oneshot a mother as client but probs like 100%?

[bright loom]

That like boss mother

In r8

How many scatter shots with the boosters would I need

[fathom ice]

a lot

[tardy ingot]

as host? Same amount realistically

[fathom ice]

i only know that she's 24 sniper shots

[tardy ingot]

as client? Like 30-40% less

[bright loom]

Welp guess I'm not bringing boosters for scatter gun I geuss

[bright loom]

Huh?

[ocean spindle]

n not worth

[bright loom]

What host and client

[ocean spindle]

clients overdamage tumors

host have a cap

[bright loom]

Wdym?

[fathom ice]

ping diff

[tardy ingot]

Yesnt

[bright loom]

Oh

[tardy ingot]

not anymore

[bright loom]

How does that work????

[tardy ingot]

client overdamage tumors cuz tumor persists

[fathom ice]

host just insta breaks tumors

[tardy ingot]

host has tumors break

[ocean spindle]

its like theeee simplest explanation i can give kmskd

[tardy ingot]

Immediatly once the dmg of its hp is reached

[bright loom]

Oh

You should've just given the full explanation of the bat 😐

[ocean spindle]

:[

[open rover]

So thats just a desync issue lol

[bright loom]

Thanks for explaining tho

Anyways I've been practicing dodging shooters

And I still suck

Ik to walk diagonal but sometimes it doesn't work

Also does walking side to side just not work for shooter bullets?

[fathom ice]

move ur mouse

[tardy ingot]

you kinda just mini orb walk

but theres so many ways to dodge

[fathom ice]

my explanations are banger

[tardy ingot]

dash, crouch, sprint to side, walk in the right manner

[fathom ice]

eva link him to hani guide

he explained it

[bright loom]

I'm curious has anyone beat r8 with only bots before?

[fathom ice]

no

most of it tho

[bright loom]

Ok so no ones that insane

[tardy ingot]

C1, B4 and E2 are kind of a massive pain

but the first 2 are done for sure

[open rover]

after coming across Spiff and watching him play R8 (and making me want to play the game again) I can see why..

[digital mural]

Eeeeeh

The Game is hard yes

But spiff made it seem way harder than it is

He uuuuh really sucked most of the time

[tardy ingot]

Spiffs group got a lot better during E2 (for multiple reasons)

[digital mural]

They went from zero to hero

[open rover]

no I dont doubt that, but he also said that they played it without input from the community so they didnt know about certain mechanics, etc

like there was a massive jump when they brought in Kenny, who basically taught them how to play the game

[ocean spindle]

those missions are still about impossible with bots tho, at least e2, d2 c2 immm unsure

[digital mural]

C2 is possible

[tardy ingot]

They avoided outside knowledge MOSTLY for the whole of R8

then got a ton during E2

[tardy ingot]

D2 is legit not bad at all

You just need the knowledge

[digital mural]

Knowledge carries

[ocean spindle]

well the ending to not hit the trigger feels like a bit of an exploit

[tardy ingot]

bot goes down
Bot goes up

[digital mural]

Spear and MG are the best guns

:)

[tardy ingot]

bot cant carry during error?
Bot cant trigger event box

Itssimply fair

[ocean spindle]

mhh

^>

[tardy ingot]

The biggest issue is rly just the ot not carrying during error and no spawnpushing

[open rover]

yeah that came across in the vids, but still I hope to eventually get em done

[tardy ingot]

gl with that!

R8 is a great rundown

[digital mural]

With great voice acting

[tardy ingot]

Gtfo as a whole is pretty good (tho im biased) lol

gotta say kenny also nailed it with the intro part he did for the e2 video

Went hard

[open rover]

cant wait for r8 but I told myself I need to at least clear most of the other rundowns before

[digital mural]

I was in the video for like 3 seconds

I'm proud of myself

[tardy ingot]

good choice

[tardy ingot]

like half the active chatters were

[digital mural]

Yep

[tardy ingot]

Iirc I counted and it was like 40+ people

spiff used the perfect part

shame he didnt use the getting punched by 10C with R8E2 one

[hoary mason]

[burnt inlet]

Wait wat vid?

[digital mural]

Spiff E2 vid

[hoary mason]

Eva's meme vid

[burnt inlet]

Oh

[hoary mason]

Both

[digital mural]

Both

[burnt inlet]

I watched both

[open rover]

I just wanted him to do more content for gtfo - like all the other rundowns

[burnt inlet]

Though spiff was second monitor real estate

[tardy ingot]

Theres a low chance he returns for videos (either clear stuff or speedruns) and a pretty decent chance he streams their runs on it in the future

THE Meme video is a discord classic

only time we had a channel which fit over 50 people

[burnt inlet]

Wish I was there lol

So late to the GTFO party

[digital mural]

I have screenshots of it

Also the VC Blue screened my laptop

[tardy ingot]

[open rover]

I swear from just watching all the parts of r8 from spiff Noah made it so much better, his comedic timing is so on point

[tardy ingot]

You wouldve likely been added

I started taking whoever I knew chatted sometimes at a certain point to add people

tho god 💀

the keyframing

[digital mural]

Thats your own fault

Davinci has good tools for stuff like that

Lol

[topaz anvil]

There's a new avengers coming soon right. Can make a sequel vid

[tardy ingot]

only if it has smth iconing I feel can bememed about

[burnt inlet]

If I only was like a year early to my GTFO endeavor (though I don’t know if I’d be that interested and I had a lot going on with drivers license and final exams)

[tardy ingot]

ive already done R8 release and gtfo 2 aswell as dow killing gtfo 2

ALSO

WTF

WHY

IS SOMEONE

HONKING

their car

every 2 seconds

[digital mural]

its me
ill stop rn

[burnt inlet]

HOOOOOOOONK

[topaz anvil]

Funsies

[tardy ingot]

Its 1 am

ffs

[topaz anvil]

Big party on the streets

Damn germany sounds like a lawless wasteland

[burnt inlet]

”Alex (Eva’s stinky)” lol such an out of context name

[burnt inlet]

It is

[ocean spindle]

i mean ur not asleep anyway

:3

[burnt inlet]

Yea cuz someone’s honking

[ocean spindle]

smh u kno what i mean

[topaz anvil]

Stop it then

[burnt inlet]

Bruh I’m like two countries over

Fuck u mean

[topaz anvil]

Quick walk

[tardy ingot]

They stopped

thank god

I ate wings

Hence im awake

[topaz anvil]

Sounds like you are always eating wings

[tardy ingot]

As my stomach was trying to survive the all you can eat attack

[tardy ingot]

I havent in 6+ months

[burnt inlet]

I did it

[topaz anvil]

Gg

[burnt inlet]

Gg ez no re

[topaz anvil]

I might have to see if i can get ragdoll mode to be unplayable

[burnt inlet]

Too old too be here with the prime memes 😔

[burnt inlet]

lol

[little pilot]

so now it isn't just the legs that are cooked

[topaz anvil]

Currently only melee damage over 20% triggers it

[burnt inlet]

I want it to be like

You barely graze them

And it just YEEETS them

And like bounces over the entire room

[topaz anvil]

Noooo it's the other way around

We get yeeted

[burnt inlet]

Oh

Yea funni still

So wait if we hit smth

We get yeeted

[topaz anvil]

No if we get hit we get yeeted

[burnt inlet]

Or is it we get hit we get yeet

[burnt inlet]

Makes more sense lol

Might be smth I’d be willing to try

Just gets hit once

TP’s to another zone

Finds key

success.png

[topaz anvil]

You can get ragdoll'd out of bounds

[burnt inlet]

Idc

I want me to be at the finish line

Of like

R8E1

And just get yeeted out of bounds

[topaz anvil]

I tried that but tanks don't punch hard enough

[burnt inlet]

Just up the ragdoll physics

[topaz anvil]

Knockback scales with damage and fatal 2 emperors apparently hit for like 6k%

[burnt inlet]

I have no idea what those are

😭

[topaz anvil]

Malicious creatures of hate

[burnt inlet]

Also I saw Eva input ”OVERRIDE_LOCKDOWN_ALPHA[CLASS_X]” in their R7D1 glitched any% is this a command that can be used for every level? Never seen that command

[burnt inlet]

I can fix them🎀

[burnt inlet]

This was whilst they were doing the class X alarm btw

Iirc

[topaz anvil]

It does annihilate giants but its use is reasonably limited

[burnt inlet]

It’s good (as always) but if u find that ur not using it that much you can switch to hel rifle (it can also deal relatively ok with groups of smalls if you don’t ads)

Cuz like hel rifle if you can line giants up are 4? shots each so it’s easy to just kill them even with the rifle

[frozen estuary]

Assuming no back/head damage it's 4 for a giant, 5 for a giant shooter

It deals ~30 damage (no less than 30)

[burnt inlet]

Yea, usually my bots deal damage so I didn’t know if it was exact or not

[frozen estuary]

The only thing my bots deal damage to is me so I wouldn't know

[burnt inlet]

Lol

I remember when I walked in front of three burst sentries

Went from 100 to 20 real quick

(Don’t ask me why I put the sentries in a scan I was even more terrible at the game)

[grizzled patrol]

Special commands are Always Level dependant.

[burnt inlet]

Fair enough

[hoary mason]

That's just how r7d1 level works

door is locked by command

you either do class 10 immediately

or open other zone and do alarm there

to lower class of alarm in that big room

[burnt inlet]

Which would be quicker to just do class 10

[hoary mason]

ye esp because it's glitched

[burnt inlet]

And they door bug the alarm

Ye

[hoary mason]

I was in team as well lmao

[burnt inlet]

Oh

lol mb

Was a while since I saw it

[hoary mason]

[burnt inlet]

I can’t lie I thought you kinda was a pub 😭🙏😭🙏myyyyy bad

[burnt inlet]

😭😭😭😭mb

[tardy ingot]

They are

actual name is AngryPub

[hoary mason]

And ur a bug hunter, not a speedrunner

[burnt inlet]

😭🙏

[tardy ingot]

now dont question how they passed their round of lockout bingo tournament

[hoary mason]

Shut up

Honestly I want you to do a task on board "chain trigger scouts by failing hack lock"

[tardy ingot]

that would be incredibly rng

[hoary mason]

Like 6 use pack

[tardy ingot]

Nah

You need a hacklock

Near scout

then have scout wave spawn in another scout room

and have that trigger scout

[hoary mason]

Yep

Best task

I don't see a problem with that one

Look how easy it was for me to do

But honestly which level you would do that the earliest

If it's moderately early/easily reachable

You still have rng element

And that rng isn't that much hard comparable to task "get tk'd by a bot"

[fathom ice]

i'm a pub

[burnt inlet]

How did they?

[frail heart]

cheats

[burnt inlet]

Ur the most vet of them all

[burnt inlet]

😭🙏😭🙏

[fathom ice]

the cap is immaculate

[burnt inlet]

Nuh uh

[frail heart]

sky is a new gen

[fathom ice]

it haven't even been a year ngl

although almost

[frail heart]

bro joined 5 months after r8 came out

mf joined like a week before the streamathon

[prime musk]

any other may 2024 gamers here

[frail heart]

why didnt you guys win the speedrun comp

[fathom ice]

fr

[burnt inlet]

Even seven people agrees with me #gtfo-spoiler-chat message

[prime musk]

you're right we should have won the speedrun comp

r6c1 is a good level for beginners after all

[fathom ice]

i was busy playing spear

[frail heart]

i think sleepo meant active gtfo chatters that are good at the game

sorry zed

[prime musk]

im bad

[burnt inlet]

What am I then? Embryo?

[frail heart]

i havent seen you play before tbf

[burnt inlet]

Bru

Don’t is my advice😭

[frail heart]

that was for zed

[burnt inlet]

Nvm

[prime musk]

you haven't seen me play??

[frail heart]

i dont ever want to see you play

[burnt inlet]

Do is my advice

[frail heart]

nope

[prime musk]

bro asks if i record my solos

[burnt inlet]

Yea I wouldn’t want to see me play either lol

[frail heart]

LMAO

[prime musk]

i say i do and say where links

[frail heart]

yeah i did ask

[prime musk]

he hasn't seen any gameplay

[frail heart]

okay whats the yt

[prime musk]

you can be the first to watch 3 hours of kiting in r5d2 or 1.5 hours of kiting in r6d2!

[prime musk]

everything is unlisted do i just dump links in dms or something

[fathom ice]

he is unlisting everything

[frail heart]

sure

[fathom ice]

smh

[prime musk]

ill make it a playlist ngl

[frail heart]

why so much?

is it just for secondary?

[prime musk]

for sec yeah

[burnt inlet]

Has R6C2 been done solo?

[prime musk]

2 hours is standard for r6d2 solo with kiting

[prime musk]

yes

[burnt inlet]

Do you posses a link to this wonder?

[fathom ice]

what about r6cx

cuz honestly don't remember

[prime musk]

literally just watch tnenpi or hinoki of blablaftw2

[frail heart]

i think only r6cx and r7e1 havent been done

[prime musk]

the last is honestly most entertaining

[frail heart]

and e2

[burnt inlet]

Ok tyty

[fathom ice]

what's cx problem again

[frail heart]

hani solo e2 when

[frail heart]

ending

[prime musk]

team im fucking losing it

[fathom ice]

yeah thought so

[frail heart]

cant long kite

[fathom ice]

yeee

its cooked

[prime musk]

i can't figure out where or how to make a playlist on yt

[frail heart]

bruh

[fathom ice]

bruh

[prime musk]

you're just getting wall of links

[fathom ice]

ngl seeded is prolly possible

but that's as far as it goes

[little pilot]

there is a kite path for r6cx but EHHHHH

u have to kite for every single code u put in

[frail heart]

yeah you would do seeded

[little pilot]

and it is borderline glitched taking into account 90% of the kite path is in spots where u cant get hit by strikers

[burnt inlet]

Bruh

[frail heart]

go on to the vid, click 3 dots, click save and make a playlist

[little pilot]

i wish there was a way to cap enemies through dimensions

would make some levels very funny

tho it would also be glitched probably

[tardy ingot]

The issue is enemies get stuck automatically
so its not like you can avoid it unless you intentionally do an awful path

[burnt inlet]

I didn’t realize you could deal with mom that way, how recommended is it?

[fathom ice]

what did they do

[burnt inlet]

bacisly kited mum

or well

they ran to bulkhead room

and close door

and threw foam grenade

[frail heart]

extremely viable with scatter which you just take for this level now

you dont even need foam

[burnt inlet]

aight well ill think about it in my next playthru, bots it might be a bit worse with but RNG we go

cant wait for bishop to phaze thru the door

[frail heart]

with bots that level is kinda just free

[burnt inlet]

until mom

[frail heart]

with scatter its free

[burnt inlet]

fair enough

[low radish]

Can hel gun kill a striker to the head with one shot

[frail heart]

yes

[little pilot]

yes

[low radish]

:O

[little pilot]

hel gun casually being the 2nd most broken gun in the game

[low radish]

Reactor defending here i come

[burnt inlet]

sawed off

[low radish]

Hmmm i wonder what the 1st one is could it possibly be the scattergun that 3 shots bosses?

[little pilot]

r4e1 reactor? best guns for secondary are hel gun, hel rifle or precision rifle

[low radish]

no it can't be!

[low radish]

Yes

[little pilot]

get banned

[tardy ingot]

In relation to slot? Yea
In a vacuum hel guns better

[civic wave]

it's r4e1 i don't think your choice of special really matters for reactor hold

[low radish]

Wait precision rifle works for reactor too?

[tardy ingot]

[tardy ingot]

Yes

[low radish]

oh yeah shadows

[burnt inlet]

sadge

[little pilot]

it helps a lot + it depends on your tool choice or teammates even

[low radish]

Last time i got molested by them

I tend to miss my shots and it's painfull

[civic wave]

revo, high cal, shotgun, combat shotty, burst cannon, hel gun, hel rifle, sniper (pre-nerf), scattergun, all been used iirc

[low radish]

Scattergun 😭

[civic wave]

but yes it does help to use a weapon you're comfortable with, but it'll be more of a question of the rest of the level and how you wish to play

[low radish]

you guys bring it anywhere

[tardy ingot]

It matters all the time

The argument of all being used is the same shitty argument that gun choices generally dont matter. They can heavily influence how easy smth is

[civic wave]

scatter fits everywhere

[tardy ingot]

^

[civic wave]

ah right yeah PR has also been used

[low radish]

we have no problem with main really

It's the reactor we keep dying on

[civic wave]

but yes I know that the ease of whatever changes with your gun choice

[little pilot]

PR is amazing for not having to take bio on defense

[tardy ingot]

Which litteraly means it matters

[low radish]

I have bio with me

[civic wave]

but in situations like this it is mostly down to player preference and comfortability, because there's not much point in taking a gun you're shit with and suffering for it

[low radish]

i can also see shadows with a strong flashlight too

[little pilot]

and u can go sentry + mines loadout. But i dont remember if it is optimal over bio sentry or bio mines

[civic wave]

i.e if i take hel rifle i may struggle more than I would with revo

even though hel rifle is objectively stronger

[low radish]

you are right

I am good with shotguns because my aim tends to be horrible

so i make up for it with shotguns

or burst weapons

veruta my beloved

I unironically defended the best with it

[frail heart]

it saves time in reactor and boss fight, but dunno if its outweighed by the time you could lose in shadow zone

[civic wave]

the fact of the matter is that the reactor hold gives you enough leeway that it's a question of which weapons you're able to use consistently and comfortably, and not so much one of how much stronger one gun is over the other for the scenario

because the player factor supercedes the gun factor

[low radish]

Is bio on looking for codes that important

i know there are shadows

[civic wave]

there's shadows in 1 zone

[little pilot]

not really

[civic wave]

well, 2 technically

but it's only really code 6 where it would be a concern

well actually 3

i keep forgetting zones lol

[little pilot]

bio is used in 4 man speeds to make cleaning those zones less of an issue and faster but in duos u can easily do it without bio

[low radish]

I guess i feel the best with double shotgun

But i would use ammo fast

and i am afraid i will run out of it too fast

[civic wave]

there is enough ammo to hold reactor for 30+ minutes

you'll be fine

[frail heart]

ammo isnt a factor for hold

[low radish]

in the corridor or in general?

Last time i was runing out

[low radish]

huh, we could try to go sentry and mines but i'm afraid shadows will screw us over

for the 3rd time

[civic wave]

everything you have in 510 and 511 (corridor and reactor room) should be plenty to see you through the duo code search unless your teammate is exceptionally slow or fucks up and the run loses for other reasons

but you can also get given some ammo from 512 (first code zone, bridge) when your teammate comes back with cell

[low radish]

I have no idea how slow he is but once we forgot the cell

it was bautiful

i mean Frenchman does great in looking for codes

[civic wave]

if you're running out of ammo then I'd also question how much you end up with after plugging cells, and whether code searcher is burning massive packs up front instead of waiting until reactor starts and looting 512

[low radish]

I can't tell if he is slow or fast but he does his job well

[little pilot]

in my experience as long as code 6 goes fast ammo is never an issue

[fathom ice]

corridor is like 20 mins

but u just grab 5 from reactor on start

and ure bing chilling

tool is tighter than ammo ngl

[low radish]

OH WAIT I JUST REMEMBERED, we were killign the mothers

[little pilot]

BRO

[low radish]

that's where the ammo went

[little pilot]

nah

lmao

[low radish]

how did i forget it

😭

[little pilot]

that's cooked

[civic wave]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[low radish]

Once my duo did 1 v 4 with them i still have no idea how he did it

but he did

[fathom ice]

ngl hardest part is not to choke after reactor

[low radish]

and we died on wave 6 :(

[civic wave]

the whole debacle of killing mother so you can have both players go in for codes

[fathom ice]

change my mind

[low radish]

not gonna lie it was mostly because i am so stressed while solo holding

[civic wave]

you get used to it

[low radish]

I have no belief in my holding abilities

[fathom ice]

you'll get used to it

[little pilot]

i was about to say: if u even make it to wave 4 and u get cell u 2 can then stabilize for a few waves and switch roles slightly so the defender can fully loop up about 8 uses of ammo from first code search room, tool and other stuff if needed

[fathom ice]

^

[little pilot]

tho this is only doable with bio

[fathom ice]

on my first clear i'd ask my duo if they need smth

[low radish]

The furthest we got was wave 6 in which we died because of shadows

[little pilot]

without bio it can be tough to stabilize with shadows from code 4

[low radish]

but that's on me i should've plugged the code, go for ammo and kill them instead of reviving

[fathom ice]

wait do u have bio

[low radish]

That time nope

but now i do

[fathom ice]

it is a bio sentry angle

[low radish]

yes

[tardy ingot]

I dunno how someone does a 1v4 on moms but doesnt clear the reactor part immediatly? (Or simply solo holds)

[civic wave]

i'm bored anyone wanna duo og r4e1

[low radish]

i'm scared at how harder it was

[tardy ingot]

send dymus in

[low radish]

that was frenchman not me

[fathom ice]

goat ik scans were harsher

or smth

[low radish]

He does the code, i hold

[civic wave]

i think when i saw some of it on stream there was some slightly funky mods with getting told what was in boxes before opening them and seeing enemy hp bars and whatever

which is to say i disapprove, because lol

[civic wave]

yeah the sustain scan scaling was fucked

[low radish]

that's frenchman using his weird x-ray

[tardy ingot]

ah yes

[low radish]

he wants those foggies

[civic wave]

more enemies in zones, more hybrids, less resources in half the reactor zones

[tardy ingot]

imagine opening boxes

[low radish]

I just open them

[low radish]

same but i'll let him do his thing he isn't harming anyone

[civic wave]

i won't even pretend to understand why someone would use mods like that because whether you like it or not it should be considered cheating

[low radish]

I myself only use quality of life mods

like archive only

ping everything

wait i'm not supposed to talk about mods here right

i forgot dang it

[civic wave]

outdated rule that nobody gives 2 shits about

[low radish]

Hi

[civic wave]

i just use modlist, nickname, reply mod, damage indicator

[low radish]

I use only those quality of life but also some fixes

like stuck enemy fix

kill indicator fix and stuff

but mostly just archive

I don't really myself like any sort of mods that give an advantage, i only myself use quality of life

[tardy ingot]

Tbf stuff like that is „qol“
not qol

but its a personal choice and not rly a „oh yea thats a cheat“ like other shit

[low radish]

it just makes communicating where enemies are easier for us

or where we have to go

it'sa communication thing for us really

[tardy ingot]

thats kinda the point

communication is a skill

[low radish]

That too

We don't really ping in intense moments or anything during scans

[tardy ingot]

im not gonna tear someones head off for ping everything

But it isnt rly in the actual qol stuff thats just good additions

[low radish]

in those we talk where stuff is coming from and such

[low radish]

Does make sense

i didn't really think of communication as a skill like that

[tiny wyvern]

I mean ping everywhere is really good for teaching pubs

You don't have to spam jump everytime you want to teach them how to put mines/sentries

Outside of that tho the entire thing about it being able to ping enemies (shadows in particular) is pretty op

[safe cradle]

That's cheating

Boxes is whatever, knowing enemies HP is cheating

[low radish]

now i'm realizing i should've not said his name

[civic wave]

whose name?

[tiny wyvern]

who?

[civic wave]

we already know who you duo with and it was able to be inferred from the stream

[low radish]

Yeah but still

I don't want him to get angry or anything that i mentioned him now

it might sound like i'm digging his grave

[safe cradle]

I mean if they stream that they're cheating I dont think they care enough

So whatever?

[tiny wyvern]

I mean we rlly don't care all that much

[low radish]

He streams because my internet sucks mostly

we actually stopped because i was lagging that much

which is sad

[low radish]

I mean the thing is I care

[tiny wyvern]

Unless he's wemodding and somehow got bugged somewhere and wanders into tech support i don't have any qualms with it

[safe cradle]

wemod or not I'd classify knowing enemies HP as cheating

[low radish]

I don't really want to cheat in any way shape or form and want to play fair but on the other side i feel like he should know better too

[safe cradle]

Competitive games call that "ESP cheats"

[low radish]

But hey we are having fun at least so i suppose it is fine

[safe cradle]

Then again GTFO isn't a competitive game so whatever

[low radish]

we can always redo everything with no mods later

[tiny wyvern]

Eh health bars are fine
If he wants to run it so be it
Better than custom boosters

Or actual wemod faquery

[low radish]

Yeah

[civic wave]

regardless of the impact of gameplay it'll still diminish community opinion of you

[low radish]

I'd make a diminished alarm joke but i don't think this is a good moment now

[fathom ice]

drop mod list rn !!

judgement

[low radish]

Yeah I myself don't want to cheat or anything or be viewed as a bad person or anythign in this community

I don't really know what exactly people view as cheating in the community

other than the usual stuff

[low radish]

i could

[burnt inlet]

memory leak fix and chatter reborn is my mod list, used to mod bots but meh cheating kinda

[low radish]

I use, The archive, LogLibrary, ping everything, stuck enemy fix, Snatcher fix, biotracker fix, damage sync, kill indicator fix, Accurate crosshair, door enemy fix, scoutbombing fix, enemy animation fix

[burnt inlet]

bio fix?

[low radish]

sometimes enemies show as very small red dots on your bio

you can't ping those enemies

or something

[burnt inlet]

oh

[low radish]

mhm!

no idea wha bugs it though

but i did see it a few times

[safe cradle]

ah...

[burnt inlet]

i mean prolly something to do with the memory leak

[safe cradle]

something about enemies being far

there's a comment by randomuserhi in gtfo-media that explains it I think

[burnt inlet]

oh

[safe cradle]

#gtfo-media message

[burnt inlet]

oh shit

[low radish]

anyway time to hold R4E1 with wo shotguns

[burnt inlet]

good luck

[low radish]

thank u

[low radish]

Is it possible to do secondary in R4E1 without plugging the cells

[tardy ingot]

Only with mods

[low radish]

sadness

[little pilot]

BetterVanilla on r2modman or thunderstore

[low radish]

Does anyone have an explanation to wha i wrote in GTFO media

[tiny wyvern]

Maybe they spawned on the door or smth

Funneling through doors sometimes is a scam

[low radish]

yeah that's what we thought

It appears i was in the other room away

[brazen storm]

anyone know why subtitles are kinda delayed for some people?

and how to fix it

[civic wave]

unfortunately the subtitles have never properly been synced

there may be a mod that fixes it, but i can't fully recall if there is (and if so, what the name of the mod is)

[brazen storm]

Doesn't seem like there is

[low radish]

yeah there is none

[brazen storm]

nvm found one

[grizzled patrol]

By turning them Off. Cant get desynched If there are non

[brazen storm]

lmao

[brazen storm]

there is one called sub_sync_fix

[low radish]

Ah yes malefic and his problem solving

[brazen storm]

but apparently only for rundown 8 and partially r7

[low radish]

better than nothing

[sturdy glen]

were getting to the point now where this probably isnt true lol

[prime musk]

hel gun wins on what
range and ammo efficiency
the 2 stats that kinda do not matter in the game/matter very little at a decent level of gameplay

[tardy ingot]

range, ammo efficiency
fucking PENETRATION

"do not matter" is also still wrong

range, similar to ammo efficiency is heavily overrated by beginners

[halcyon current]

i wonder if this games balance would be better if penetration wasnt exclusive to hel guns and they were just better at it

[tardy ingot]

but range is noticeably a good stat to have

[prime musk]

no because while guns would even out a bit more, sawed off and scatter would skyrocket into uberomegastupid tier and be comparatively even better than they are right now and balance would be even worse as a result

[tardy ingot]

and ammo efficiency being even vs chargers/giants, double vs smalls and lower vs nightmares without any pen is already just a big advantage

if ray can say that the marginal difference of HAR and arbalist ammo econ matters. then the ammo econ between Hel gun and sawed off makes sawed off look like shit

[halcyon current]

simple, dont give it to them

logically theyre both pulling high enough damage to not suffer without it if more guns had access to it, right?

[prime musk]

for sure

[tardy ingot]

pen makes good stat guns even better

[halcyon current]

i think out of the shotguns id only give slug penetration?

[tardy ingot]

and meh stat guns just less shit

less pen in this game is better

more pen (see modded) just makes stuff eh

[halcyon current]

this game is entirely different once you start using hel weapons tbh

[sturdy glen]

pen is best on guns like hel rifle and gun bc theyre harder to make use of it

[tardy ingot]

doubling or trippling your dmg output is just stupidly crazy

[halcyon current]

hell, having a team full of them

once your group of people goes "wow hel guns are good" the game becomes margainally easier ime

[tardy ingot]

its also stupid that hel weapons even without the pen would be at least solid all around (exception being hel auto pistol and sentry)

[halcyon current]

Hel Rifle is just HCP but it kills 5 things if you can line them up and i personally think that is dumb

[digital mural]

guys

[halcyon current]

that might be overly reductive but thats how it feels

[digital mural]

GTFO is a balanced game

[tardy ingot]

they arent inherently nerfed rly

hel revo has "smaller mag and long reload". reload cancel makes both less of an issue
hel shotgun has long reload and not suuuuper high dmg - pen nullifies the 2nd half and it also has a huge mag
hel gun - charge up is the only thing
hel rifle - charge up and cooldown

[tardy ingot]

it also has like 5 times the range

which legit makes it so much better vs its main targets

[halcyon current]

ik the only downside is total ammo cap tbh

[tardy ingot]

it gets 1 less per refill

it doesnt matter since it has pen

[halcyon current]

i know man im coping

i still dont understand how the fuck hel shotty is a main

[civic wave]

high cal - COOL, GUNSLINGER, ADMITTED TO ORTHOPAEDICS FOR FRACTURED WRIST
hel rifle - lame, boring, pub loadout

[glad sun]

As someone who is slowly getting this pounded into my skull, I agree

[tardy ingot]

they are still good stats

[glad sun]

I disliked sawed off because I needed to be super close

Have since rescinded that opinion

[tardy ingot]

its less that you need super close and more that it has deceptive range vs strikers

[glad sun]

[safe cradle]

After using Sawn off a lot for the past weeks, I'll admit it's damn fucking strong, and considering how even I can get a lot out of it considering my aim isn't anything more than decent, that's a lot.

[past mesa]

Sawd off is the most oppressive main in the game

[safe cradle]

Yeah I'm having trouble picking something else

It hits both "fun" and "good" very well

Also #gtfo-spoiler-chat message

I'll post the answer tomorrow

Even if you could just search for it I guess

[past mesa]

Tbh there is zero chance I said this

And if I find out I did

I am gonna be so mad

[sturdy glen]

I looked it up to make sure it wasnt me

[past mesa]

tru didn’t Ray didn’t I didn’t Beth didn’t

Zero chance

[fathom ice]

tru did

i'm the spy

[sturdy glen]

I wouldve guessed eva prolly

[past mesa]

Nope

[fathom ice]

i guessed jish ngl

[past mesa]

There is no second meaning

[fathom ice]

i mean

it's (...)

surely

tbf u could've said anything

[past mesa]

unless it is like man I am ocd about my sleepers not all being female or something

[fathom ice]

yeah exactly

[past mesa]

It isn’t me

Cause they use it’a

its

Oh fuck my phone auto corrects it

[safe cradle]

I'd use something from mrmountainman but they're all so good

they'd be too easy to guess

[digital mural]

i think i know who it is

[safe cradle]

Like this: #gtfo-chat message

[digital mural]

[safe cradle]

I think that if I used one of those quotes everyone would guess right

[digital mural]

MINE MINE MINE

[glad sun]

[sturdy glen]

been getting a lot of these lately

[glad sun]

I don't get it

[sturdy glen]

im getting RICH

[glad sun]

Why do these happen

[digital mural]

Restarted people click link

[topaz anvil]

people get their accounts compromised and then it's used to get more people

[digital mural]

Link steal information

[glad sun]

Ah

Basic online knowledge: don't click the link

[digital mural]

Some people really lack basic knowledge about internet security

and by some i mean a lot

[patent mulch]

to the people that have to repeat help about trouble missions in each rundown, what are the first missions in each of them that a lot of people start getting stuck on (I'm working on improving the new wiki)

[ocean spindle]

r1c1 BY FAR
after that uhh some r1d1 but u already did that, r2d1, r2c2, specifying that u need to SKIP r2e1 would be huge, r3c1 is a big wall, r4d2 is one to give a lot of advice on, all the E tiers obvs so r4e1 r5e1 and so on

maybbb r2c1

and well r1a1 but cuz like yes obv

[jagged shore]

bro forgot to mention r2d2 the level that has probably killed the most streamed runs that i've seen

[ocean spindle]

oh yea

i forgor

[summer wolf]

can anyone help me clear R2D2?

[soft crater]

.t lfg

[uneven gulch]

Hello! If you are unaware, we have Looking For Group (LFG) channels to help users group up and play the game. They are located here: #lfg-north-america / #lfg-latin-america / #lfg-eastern-europe / #lfg-western-europe / #lfg-asia / #lfg-oceania / #lfg-africa / #lfg-beginners / #lfg-middle-east.

If you are unsure of how to create or join a lobby, please see the instructions here: #how-to-matchmake.

[heavy spire]

im stuck on r1c1 as we speak

[flat oar]

Captain America: puts foot on chair "So you are having trouble with R1C1"

a reactor is ultimately 3 parts,
1 Wave Defense
2 gathering resources in between
3 getting the code into the terminal in time
If you already know how R1C1's reactor works, then its just the first two things you need, and they can go hand in hand

the most popular place to defend for many reasons is the bridge tile. the hole in the wall at the south end is a great choke point where you can get angles and focus your sentries, the bridge itself is a perfect funnel if/as you fall back, and its only about a 30 second run to the reactor terminal.

when you start looting after the shooting, you have quite a lot of resources around you to spend as the code person runs out and runs back. and on longer warm up times for the later codes, you have enough time to run forward and loot in previous areas.

when giants spawn having someone with a good weapon for bigs like hel rifle is useful (especially for hybrids) as well as saving tool by only having 2 sentries down for most waves, saving it for later waves or the waves with Hybrids (4, 6, 8).

this is definitely a 3 sentry + 1 bio tracker level, and when you learn all sentries are not created equal.
Burst is the best all-arounder.
Sniper sentry thrives with bio tracking and the long sight lines on this level.
shot gun sentry is in the game
Autosentry is in the game.

if you have a bot, they are a boss with the biotracker so give them that, and if you have three bots god go with you.

[heavy spire]

oh I meant r1c2 but then again im playing solo

my mistake

[grizzled patrol]

Chargers do be quirky

[prime musk]

not to be disrespectful but i think you are misdiagnosing what is difficult

it's not the room being small that's hard, it's the rooms around it being small making spawns close to you that's hard

enemies spawning close really really sucks because it does a lot of things

1. they get to you faster, meaning less downtime between waves
2. they don't spread out as much while moving to you, so they hit as a big group instead of spaced out a bit

point is pressure is turned up a lot when they spawn close

as for tips on how to deal with it

idk it really is just a more difficult scenario where you have to shoot better and faster to have time to do scans/stay on scans
i suppose scan prio and some circlekiting stuff might be useful but they are kinda room dependent

if you have a mine using all the doors you have is kinda always worth though

[edgy aurora]

R1A1 intensifies

[soft crater]

I love waiting for enemies to get closer so I can have fun.

[inner inlet]

R1c1? Bro is took me like 10 trys to beat r1b2😭 my bro dosn't even want to try r1c1 no more

[ocean spindle]

well people can struggle on different kinds of things, maybs u struggle much harder with stealth or res management

but c1 introduces a big change of gameplay that many people struggle on

some might find it easier even but not everyone

[patent mulch]

well time to make a pseudo guide on the wiki for r1b2... should be easier than doing one for r4d2

[tardy ingot]

Heavy recommendation to check out some mechanics/knowledge guides

This games difficulty is heavily based on knowledge, or rather lack thereoff

[tiny wyvern]

unironically #guides-and-reviews message is pretty good

[brazen storm]

is the ending of r8b3 secondary even canon?

[tiny wyvern]

You mean R8A2?

R8B3 is just a GLP collectathon

[brazen storm]

yes a2 my bad

[tiny wyvern]

Sort of kind of not really, consult #gtfo-lore pinned messages for dets

[brazen storm]

huh weird, discord wasnt showing me that channel

[tiny wyvern]

If you still don't get it, you can ask frostty about it when she's around later

But ye

[digital mural]

A2? Not it isnt

[tiny wyvern]

it exists as it's own little thing

In the corner where it belongs

But it's... complicated?

Worldline stuff is fun

[ocean spindle]

all secondaries and overloads can or can't be canon it doesn't rlly matter

a2 is the only that is a what if

:]

it's not complicated we know we don't die there

[shy tangle]

Hi all, is there a way to make solo stealth killing a shadow giant less terrifying? Or should it just be attempted with 2+ people with big weapons? I'm using spear if that helps, trying to stagger it with each limb like a normal big guy

[frail heart]

use hammer

but also you can just shoot it

[errant dome]

if ur solo i'd always just shoot a shadow giant tbh

depending on your special weapon you can go for a full charge melee to the back of the head then shoot, or just shoot straight up if ur not confident in that

[shy tangle]

That's fair, I just get nervous when it's a 4 shadow big room, but I can concede that it's an ammo/mine room if we can't escape them from now on.

We're duo and seeing how far we can get in r2e1 for context

[safe cradle]

You can duo it easily

ok well not easily

but you've enough error margin

OR you can have client do it while host doesn't look

which yes, makes it easier

[shy tangle]

It does? That's crazy

[safe cradle]

Something about animations being fucked up if host doesn't look because the game culls them

[shy tangle]

We'll give it some more tries with spear/hammer then instead of spear/knife, which is more terrifying

[prime musk]

enemy hitboxes are handled by host, and follow the animations displayed on host-side
if host doesn't see the enemy, their animations are culled host-side and they remain statically posed, meaning their hitboxes don't move around. they do still hurt.

if you know how to abuse this properly stealth melee on giants is free on client with host cooperation.

[shy tangle]

Thanks all, this will make getting to the fog alarm a lot more consistent (our current wall atm)

[prime musk]

yes, goat, this game is in fact awful

[civic wave]

if you haven't already, you should look at tru's guide that covers shadow giants lick attack, it's incredible information https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iGiC9xU-a3E

funnily enough i had seen the animation culling in action from proxy aggro in r8a1 speedruns, where the lighting makes the sleeper cast a shadow on a wall

so intuitively i knew it was a thing

[frail heart]

mimimimimi

[civic wave]

whatever that's supposed to mean

[fathom ice]

honk mimimimi

[shy tangle]

I think the animation culling thing is too cheesy for my tastes, but we can definitely work on just getting better at staggering the shadow big together

[frail heart]

in that section you should just shoot them

[wicked crater]

Stupid question... I am trying to find a level in GTFO that matches this description... there is a part of the level where a terminal is in the center of a room on top of a ladder... and within the room there are 3 doors that open up and enemies flood in and essentially you need to defend... I am completely forgetting what rundown this was...

[civic wave]

r8b3 maybe?

[wicked crater]

ooo maybe

[digital mural]

There is a couple levels that fit that description

[civic wave]

it certainly matches the terminal on top of a ladder part, though you don't really need to open every side

[wicked crater]

yeah i know

I jujst remember this one youtube content creator who made a video one it and had really cool cinematic shots of the ladder and defensive spots

[digital mural]

R8B3

[wicked crater]

but I am trying to figure out the level to see if I can find this video on youtube

[civic wave]

let me load up cconsole and take a shot of r8b3 for you

will post in spoiler chat and ping

[digital mural]

Play the whole game and discover the level

[wicked crater]

can;t play at work, have to just watch videos instead

[burnt inlet]

should i just skip R3C1 if im playing with bots only?

[digital mural]

No

[burnt inlet]

was zone 14 the funny resource room?

[ocean spindle]

think soooo?

tbh i would kinda skip c1, but its probs my skill issue

[burnt inlet]

yea i agree

[burnt inlet]

its unironically like the first fog level in R1 before the charger alarm imo

yea like R1B2 or something like that

[ocean spindle]

r1 has normal fog

not infectious

on b1

and a bit on b2 but like tiny

[digital mural]

That is R3-R4

[burnt inlet]

which one is the one im thinking of with blue hue fog and you can see thru it?

[ocean spindle]

blue hue fog?

[burnt inlet]

yea its kinda blueish and you can see thru it

[digital mural]

R2 has fog but it doesnt become serious until R3+ where they just spam it

[burnt inlet]

i think its the first one with apex door

where like 5 giants rush at u after opening it

[ocean spindle]

r1c2222

kinda

it has fog in the upper levels right

but its not blue

[burnt inlet]

the one im thinking of has fog in the beginning

might be missremembering the apex door

[digital mural]

R2B1?

[burnt inlet]

but like

west side

but early on

[digital mural]

Ah

[burnt inlet]

its like a "bowl" of fog

[patent mulch]

was it astrallspiff

[wicked crater]

IT WAS! I found it and I've been binge watching his whole series haha

[patent mulch]

i only know 3 content creators that did gtfo stuff, those being spiff, markiplier and bricky lol

[shy tangle]

Update: we finally got past the fog alarm (and died to the next one), and we got there with way more resources by shooting/meleeing the giants together more, thank you!

[burnt inlet]

goated secon screen content icl

[topaz anvil]

Glad to see you are helping small creators grow by watching their content

[patent mulch]

dont know how i completely forgot about scaler and eva but i did

[topaz anvil]

Real ones know black dragon too

[digital mural]

Kolfo

[topaz anvil]

Kolfo my beloved

[burnt inlet]

tnepi or whatever their name is

[digital mural]

Sylliant

[burnt inlet]

frosty does upload right?

[digital mural]

Im mentioning people that made actual GTFO content and not only speedruns

[civic wave]

burn

[burnt inlet]

sadge content =/= speedrun 😔

[topaz anvil]

That one weird roast chicken bird guy

[civic wave]

but he's probably used to it now, fucker probably doesn't understand the importance of sunscreen hehe

teasing

[digital mural]

Speedrunning is content yes, but it gets old really fast

[burnt inlet]

(i havent worn sunscreen for uhhhhhh like five years at least)

[topaz anvil]

Go outside

[burnt inlet]

yea majorly depends on the creator

[digital mural]

I use sunscreen sometimes but i end up burnt anyways lol

[civic wave]

i only wear it in exceptional circumstances but UV index in the UK is rather low + i still use spf products on my face

[burnt inlet]

im west coast swedish we dont get sun here

[civic wave]

everything else gets covered up pretty much

[digital mural]

So now i wear stuff with long sleeves or sweaters when theres a lot of sun

[topaz anvil]

Imagine damaging sun in the uk

Kek

Did you enjoy the sun today Goat?

[digital mural]

You guys have sun?

[burnt inlet]

i wear da hoodie most days

[topaz anvil]

Shit was 21C today

[digital mural]

Oh wow

Horrible

Scary

So bad

[burnt inlet]

W, 10C above what we got lol

[digital mural]

38c right now in here

And has been like a week straight like that

[topaz anvil]

What are your winters

[digital mural]

20

10C if we get lucky

[topaz anvil]

Yuckily warm

[burnt inlet]

yanno atp move to the sun

[digital mural]

Mostly 10-20 very rarely below 10-5

[topaz anvil]

Imagine not getting sub 0 winters

[burnt inlet]

i love sub 0 winters icl

snow

[digital mural]

And if we get cold it only lasts like 3-4 days

[burnt inlet]

yippie

[topaz anvil]

That's the problem when you live in like

The mountains

[digital mural]

I mean

Its actually cool in here

[burnt inlet]

kinda but even the mountains get plowed here

[digital mural]

It's not as hot as the other places in the city

[topaz anvil]

Still too hot

[soft crater]

[digital mural]

The most annoying part of it being too hot is that i can't use my computer too much

It reaches fucking 80C-90C

[topaz anvil]

L bozo

Anyway eep time

[digital mural]

Give me your battlecats account

Rn

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||made you look||

[burnt inlet]

pable i need a fact check in gtfo chat

[civic wave]

it's been sunny for a while up here, i've quite enjoyed basking in the sun for a bit to be honest

nice and warm

although at some points i'd oscillate between the sunlight and shade

10 minutes, get too hot

10 minutes, get too cold