gtfo-related-questions

[hard nexus]

game stores them somewhere?

[prime musk]

all the logs are saved

[hard nexus]

where

[prime musk]

[user] -> appdata -> locallow -> 10 chambers collective -> gtfo

[burnt inlet]

No. (They get stuck everywhere) @knotty relic

[knotty relic]

Wut?

What gets stuck?

[burnt inlet]

Bots

[burnt inlet]

To answer this: #gtfo-media message

Cuz the media slow mode I went here

Cba to wait 5 mins

[knotty relic]

Ah.

That makes sense

Why are you doing it, then (bot solo runs)?

[burnt inlet]

Uhm

None of my friends have the game

And I uhh

I think matchmaking when it’s only coop and with such small amounts of people is uhhh

Not scary

But I’m also not social enough for it I think

And I also think that I’d just mess it up

[grizzled widget]

So the warden's been putting you in solo ops?

[burnt inlet]

Yep

[grizzled widget]

Must really want you dead..

[knotty relic]

80% of playtime in this game is messing up and losing.

[burnt inlet]

Exactly, if I mess up it’s a big deal if someone else does it’s not that bad (according to the warden)

[grizzled widget]

Either that, or it thinks you can just take it slow enough to not need to commit the extra resources

[knotty relic]

Unless you’re absolutely goated like Rayalot. He’s totally never lost lost a match (kidding)

[burnt inlet]

Honestly it’s just Swedish stuff, we ain’t that social

[burnt inlet]

This tbh

[burnt inlet]

Im gonna start

One day

Just not today

Or this week

Or next

Introverted procrastinator

Anyways the warden wants me to solo so I’ll solo most of the time

[grizzled widget]

maybe your dives into the lore means you know too much...

[burnt inlet]

R2D2 ima play with a team tmrw

[burnt inlet]

…

DONT TAKE ME

(The warden that is)

[grizzled widget]

also who was it that wanted the shirtless woods pic?

[burnt inlet]

DONT MAKE ME MEET SCHAEFFER

[burnt inlet]

😭🙏 crazy suggestion

[grizzled widget]

#gtfo-lore message

[knotty relic]

I will be stuck on this level until I die.

[burnt inlet]

This tbh

[knotty relic]

This is actually the worst level I’ve struggled with.

[grizzled widget]

well just know, in some worldline somewhere, you first-tried it.

and in some worldline you never ever beat it.

don't be that one.

[burnt inlet]

Thousand yard state moment

[knotty relic]

Yeah well in this worldline I have like 25 attempts.

[burnt inlet]

I allegedly first tried r7a1…

[burnt inlet]

Same but for r2d1

[grizzled widget]

how do you have multiple attempts in one worldline? did you just run away instead of failing and get put back in the case?

[burnt inlet]

😭🙏

[hard nexus]

had it on 9th march

dont see 9th march log

[grizzled widget]

warden usually doesn't let the failures live... as per the rundown screen intercepted transmissions

[burnt inlet]

Icl I’m so confused about what you lot are talking sabout

[prime musk]

the time in the name of a file isn't assigned based on your timezone

i believe it is utc+0 time

[burnt inlet]

In this one the warden does

[hard nexus]

i dont believe it matters

i only have two 2025 logs none of them are of march

[grizzled widget]

fair enough.

[prime musk]

ok if you run modded the logs aren't going to be created

[hard nexus]

gg

[burnt inlet]

Cmon ur the loremaster(TM)

[prime musk]

but if you run modded that's on you

[hard nexus]

scroll up you can play tutorial in multiplayer but not willingly

[grizzled widget]

the eval?

[hard nexus]

yes

[grizzled widget]

that's whack. doesn't it auto-drop?

[hard nexus]

thats the thing

[burnt inlet]

Wow, I mean I read that but I still didn’t understand it, but smth I need icl, tutorial too hard

[hard nexus]

every time u press matchmake you have a chance to spawn in hsu

but you are technically still in a multiplayer lobby

once everyone readies up it autodrops everyone in eval

some may dc

some may not get released from the drop and go back up

[grizzled widget]

lmao

that'd be the funniest shit to see in-game

[burnt inlet]

Warden was like

[hard nexus]

thats what happened to me, but eventually itt dropped me off

[burnt inlet]

”Nuh uh this one’s mine”

[grizzled widget]

ehhhh, i changed my mind!

[burnt inlet]

”This one’s spared”

[hard nexus]

those who get dropped off are able to see the one to go back up go back up

and be confused af

[burnt inlet]

😭🙏

”Nuh uh uh ur not escaping from me”

😭😭😭

[hard nexus]

i have screenshots of the tutorial bug on feb 24 2024

have the logs

[burnt inlet]

Shit I mean the warden was like ”these guys need some help ig”

[hard nexus]

wait @prime musk

ok done

[hard nexus]

is there a mod to change that

[prime musk]

i don't know, iirc it's the bepinex gtfo pack that removes the log creation

(at least for r2mod)

[hard nexus]

why does it do that tho

[prime musk]

no clue

[civic wave]

i think ive always had the game create logs still when I'm playing pubs with my mods

in fact i know it does because i pubbed yesterday and was checking logs for key

[prime musk]

it creates them but immediately deletes them when game closes instead of keeping them i think?

[verbal monolith]

Hey so just discovered this game and it looks awesome, really dig the vibe so considering picking it up in the steam sale atm. However, I know this is a few years old and is very coop dependant. I've seen a few posts that indicate the game is "dead" and devs have lost interest or the community is dying and requires friends, especialy as missions take hours to complete. I assume this is just exaggerations or people just moaning as there seems to be fair amount of activity in this discord but I thought this might be the best case to clear that up - is there any truth in this? Is the game dying?

[fathom ice]

it's pretty far from dying

[errant dome]

"I assume this is just exaggerations or people just moaning" this is more or less accurate yep

[strong vapor]

Content updates don't seem to be likely, but based on the LFG channels here the game isn't dead or dying. If you bring a few friends you won't even need to care about player count to begin with

[frail heart]

The people who say the game is dying are probably coping that they have no friends

[verbal monolith]

thanks guys! yeah I assumed that was the case 😄 I'm going to pick it up then!

[hardy grotto]

Devs have abandoned the game pretty much so there’s gonna be no more updates

When it comes to recommending the game I think you should only pick it up if you are fine with pubbing it, which there’s a lot of ppl who have already beaten the game and are just playing it for fun so you won’t be getting the actual blind experience much. The other time I recommend it is if you have a full static down to play it cause then you get the true beginner experience

[civic wave]

activity isn't as high as it used to be, but there's some good flashes of it here and there - and there's generally enough players around to get together for a level

[hardy grotto]

Some levels are gonna be rough to fill I think but mostly it’ll be fine

[tardy ingot]

R8C2 in lfg beginners

[tiny wyvern]

Not as bad as r8e2

[tardy ingot]

(r8c2 is the least searched for lfg beginner lvl)

[digital mural]

Game is far from dying

1000 players on average daily for the past months

And the player count hasnt go down from that

[safe cradle]

Someone who buys the game on his own isn't going to have friends to play.

[flat oar]

truth hurts

[safe cradle]

I really dont think this is the flex or the burn you think it is tbh

[frail heart]

yeah ik

[safe cradle]

How often people come with "my friends bought the game but quitted after 3 runs"

[frail heart]

i more meant the people who say the game is dying probably had their friends quit after 20 hours

and are salty

[flat oar]

ending up make me join this discord server

[upper ginkgo]

1 in 4 retention rate...

[burnt inlet]

i mean i started playing solo and am having fun, for the most part

[long nimbus]

My friends quit on r1c1. I'll show them...

[flat oar]

show them copypasta

[burnt inlet]

quitting right before diamonds

[flat oar]

99% GTFO players quit before hitting big

[frail heart]

99% of GTFO players quit before getting a double hit

[burnt inlet]

i still remember my first

[long nimbus]

What is a double hit? 2 kills with 1 spear swing?

[ionic leaf]

How is that possible

[burnt inlet]

never had that much coming out of me ()

[upper ginkgo]

https://youtu.be/3jtCoTDQLyM

[frail heart]

or hammer or knife or bat

[long nimbus]

The spears hitbox lingers in the center of the screen. By moving the camera, sometimes you can hit two enemies.

This used to be a big feature of the spear but it was nerfed/removed. It still happens sometimes

You can do it with the other ones?

[burnt inlet]

also you can do it via not even moving it

[frail heart]

im not talking about spear double

[flat oar]

you cannot do that anymore iirc

[ionic leaf]

Oh mama that's badass

[frail heart]

im talking about the actually double

where you use the hitbox of the weapon

to hit multiple enemies on the sameish frame

[burnt inlet]

i used to line enemies up when running spear and that worked for double kills

[hollow lynx]

Is sledge and spear equal in terms of usability or is the spear just better?

[burnt inlet]

hammer is better

spear got range which is why many early users pick it, hammer you can run with

[tardy ingot]

spear is pretty much the worst melee

[hollow lynx]

I see, very useful information. I was split between sledge and spear so this made up my mind. Appreciate it lads

[frail heart]

Huge

[burnt inlet]

take it from someone who used spear in r1, it really wont help you because it becomes a crutch

[hollow lynx]

Yea I've been trying to pry myself off the spear cause my group all uses spears and in the later levels I have noticed it not doing as great and almost being a hindrance. Just wasn't sure if the other melees are any better

[frail heart]

it feel good because of the range and its a poking motion rather than a swing

[burnt inlet]

i believe hammer is the best for new people, knoife has a high skill ceiling and bat is also decent

[frail heart]

its easier to use sure, but shit compared to hammer

i forced myself to learn hammer when i started out

[frail heart]

bat is just niche

you really only see it in some niche speeds

[burnt inlet]

oh ok

[frail heart]

but spear is just the worst

[long nimbus]

Spear keeps it's hit box right in the middle of the screen, it's hit box lingers, it's got incredible range. You can easily stealth bigs solo with it.

But. It's so slow. If you miss the head you don't even kill plebs in one hit. You can't run with it as fast. When you actually have to move quickly, having a spear is so limiting.

[frail heart]

and realistically anything spear can do, hammer can do as well, its just harder

[long nimbus]

Spear outranges big arms

That's basically it.

[frail heart]

counterpoint: stagger

[burnt inlet]

couldnt u stagger two giants with a bat or sum like that but its really hard?

[frail heart]

yeah probably

but like

stagger animation rng is actually a thing

[burnt inlet]

fair

[hard nexus]

ngl previous sales didnt bring many people in, this one did though, even matchmaking is alive now

game was dead, now seems ok

[hard nexus]

i mean, for instance you can do r7c3 with a spear

whether you should or not thats another question

[tardy ingot]

hammer skill ceiling is unironically the highest

[burnt inlet]

i thought knoife was highest, could one ask why?

[tardy ingot]

hammer can get very quick at taking out smalls aswell

and hammer can basically do everything

so you can learn to do everything

[burnt inlet]

fair

[hard nexus]

one could ask why you would ever think so lmao

[frail heart]

probably something iwth giants

[burnt inlet]

thought i heard it somewhere, what role does the knoife fill that hammer doesnt? (assuming its quickly clearing stuff?)

[hard nexus]

sucking ass

[burnt inlet]

taking spears role

[hard nexus]

at least spear can deal with a charger

"yo how can i oneshot these spiky guys"
check map
guy has knife
"you cant"

[grizzled widget]

The role of the knife is to be that one guy on cocaine sprinting through sleeping zones "stealthing".

[burnt inlet]

spiff quote?

[grizzled widget]

No clue who that is

[hard nexus]

its to be that one guy with perfect boosters and hieroglyphs in username one shotting everything

with knife

[civic wave]

@humble night take notes for r4e1 runs

[hard nexus]

or die to giant swing

[burnt inlet]

so me lol

[grizzled widget]

Yes, the cocaine is mandatory, though can be substituted with fent on Fridays

[frail heart]

knife is fine for chargers after change?

[civic wave]

i love fentanyl friday

[hard nexus]

after change to hammer, yes, correct

[frail heart]

no

change to knife

on r8 release

or whatever

[hard nexus]

no

[frail heart]

ok

cope harder

[hard nexus]

kekw

[civic wave]

you kill chargers with a full backstab into any swing

but no one shot

[hard nexus]

oic

[tardy ingot]

which doesnt matter
its a quick kill

[civic wave]

but the increased long range aggro from hitting/killing a sleeping enemy...

[tardy ingot]

increased?

[burnt inlet]

eva do you have a tutorial for how to stamina cancel?

[tardy ingot]

stamina cancel?

[hard nexus]

downpatch the game no stamina

[civic wave]

isn't there a chance for it upon hitting an awake enemy that was being discussed a few months back but nobody really understood?

[frail heart]

awake enemies can long range or whatever

[tardy ingot]

we understand it now yes
it repeats the chance if the enemy was woken up by a melee attack

[civic wave]

ya probably, i may be misremembering

[tardy ingot]

but like, you probably either have the others sleeping (crouching behind charger) anyway since you need a sleeping hit

[burnt inlet]

like slide cancel or whatever in ur speedruns

[long nimbus]

Are licks considered projectile or melee?

[frail heart]

you just crouch and uncrouch while sprinting

[fathom ice]

licks are melee

[burnt inlet]

is that it to move quicker?

[rapid warren]

lick 👅

[fathom ice]

no

u save stam

[frail heart]

no its to conserve a small amount of stamina so you can run faster for longer

[burnt inlet]

what i meant cuz long run you move quicker

[fathom ice]

ig

[long nimbus]

Crouch Sliding keeps your sprint momentum more than letting go of shift and walking

[frail heart]

The main reason for doing it is because while in the crouched state you arent consuming stamina

[long nimbus]

Walking doesn't consume stamina either? I assume it's the momentum

[frail heart]

yes you stay at full sprint speed while sliding

so you slide for like 0.2 seconds then uncrouch

you lose no speed but save a small bit of stamina

[long nimbus]

Okay. So you were agreeing with me?

[frail heart]

i dont get where walking comes into this

[rapid warren]

bro starts slide walking

get that boogie up

[long nimbus]

You slide because it preserves stamina and keeps momentum. Walking also preserves. Stamina, but you lose the momentum

[frail heart]

but like you would walk to reset stamina not preserve it

[long nimbus]

Yes

[burnt inlet]

what im doing currently is sprint, crouch, wait like 0.2-0.5 seconds, sprint

thats correct right?

[frail heart]

you're sliding for too long

[burnt inlet]

is it just like crouch immediately shift (sprint button)

[frail heart]

you dont want to be letting go of shift to press it again

[burnt inlet]

yea it is wayyyyy to long

[frail heart]

you just uncrouch with the crouch bind

[burnt inlet]

oh cuz thats what im doing

[frail heart]

yeah you just lose more time than you gain

[burnt inlet]

aighty, might need to free my pinky from both crouch and sprint then

[frail heart]

yeah i had to bind crouch to c

[burnt inlet]

i might do it to one of my mouse buttons

[tardy ingot]

You rly dont need to do it for vanilla gameplay

Even in speedruns it only gets us a marginal time advantage

[burnt inlet]

fair, its just that i do get bored when running around

[digital mural]

Charge your melee weapon repeatedly

You won't get bored

[burnt inlet]

i swing it but without charging

dont want to extend the wait

[digital mural]

Holy moly

You might have a problem

[long nimbus]

accidentally hits wall/floor

[halcyon current]

Just throw your camera up tbh

[tiny wyvern]

I remember going for a scout kill with hammer

jumped

And hit the ceiling

For some reason there was a rebar before the head

[halcyon current]

Lmfao

Situational awareness moment tbh

[knotty relic]

You just swing while running around?

And like jack your pulse up so you can't move anymore?

Like for funsies?

[burnt inlet]

Yep

[burnt inlet]

AFAIK it doesn’t drain stamina if ur not charging

[ocean spindle]

it drains

what doesnt drain is charging and not releasing i think

cancelling it

[knotty relic]

Yeah you're losing stamina and gaining bpm for free, Moth

[burnt inlet]

W

[tardy ingot]

if you arent charging the melee swings dont cost stamina

[knotty relic]

Wuuuuuuuuuuut

[ocean spindle]

nevermind

im wrong

i checked the wiki

[tardy ingot]

you can see this with us doing lots of no charge hits when running somewhere sometimes in speedrunds (check recent r1b2 at the start for it)

[ocean spindle]

[knotty relic]

I must always be charge hitting while attacking small waves then.

[ocean spindle]

i mean cuz its the best

even a tiny amount of charge for the occi of a striker is a instakill

[burnt inlet]

^

Found my source

[ocean spindle]

for shooters might not matter but for strikers it does

here my source

[[Melee]]

[gray rapids]

https://gtfo.fandom.com/wiki/Melee

[tardy ingot]

we no charge kill both sometimes

but in normal gameplay you just charge

its simply better

[burnt inlet]

Anyways I may be swinging around but I’d do nothing, nothing to decrease my stamina whilst just running

[ocean spindle]

what

huh?

smh eva melee booster???

[ocean spindle]

the running

:]

[burnt inlet]

(That’s included in what I meant but fair enough)

Anyways I love how Eva and co all just run towards doors fully charged melee and just break it down, looks so silly

[tardy ingot]

What?

[ocean spindle]

wdym "no charge kill both"

[civic wave]

multiple hits

you have 4 people

[burnt inlet]

[tardy ingot]

yea

[ocean spindle]

oh

[burnt inlet]

Boosters isn’t allowed in speedrunning right?

[tardy ingot]

Ye

Adds incredible rng and a need to farm/„cheat“them

[knotty relic]

Boosters add rng?

Like they can change how things spawn in the level?

[ocean spindle]

no, but they add rng as in what % u get

or what u even get, like main dmg special dmg etc etc

like rng for example on getting enough to get 100% infect resist

[knotty relic]

Ahh

[safe cradle]

There should exist a mod that randomly assigns crazy fucked up boosters to players and then you need to deal with stuff like -80% melee damage but +150% med efficiency.

[burnt inlet]

QoL mod

[knotty relic]

That's mad

Get good at game, need new challenge, add random boosters mod.

Sounds like a meme fest.

[cloud elk]

what are some good weapons for rundown one? im having trouble with all the small enemies

[digital mural]

carbine, hel revo, hel shotgun, sawed off, burst rifle

[tardy ingot]

A good beginner choice is high caliber pistol for the special slot

Carbine for the main slot is also good

[digital mural]

combat shotgun and normal shotgun

[tardy ingot]

If you are having trouble with r1c1 specifically then hel rifle

[cloud elk]

thanks

[tardy ingot]

You can get worthless boosters for speeds so those dont matter

You can get weaker versions

And after ~20 attempts you gotta refarm. It would suck balls

[knotty relic]

That's... pretty true.

I have a lot of boosters that aren't great, and farming boosters is okay I guess but the odds of getting something actually useful are incredibly low since it's completely randomized.

I see what you're saying.

[fathom ice]

damn so many new leaves

wish i'd be one of them

[knotty relic]

Yeah we'll see how many stick around lol

[errant dome]

game is on sale

[fathom ice]

come pub

@errant dome

[errant dome]

u dont need 2 ping me twice smh

[fathom ice]

my bad g

[ocean spindle]

:3

[ocean spindle]

:3

[errant dome]

no

[honest sluice]

😔

[crystal pilot]

do you guys usually move little when in alarms?

there's lots of times someone messes up my shot because they put themselves in front of me

be it bots or friends

[digital mural]

Yes
However i move back and forth

Tell your teammates to do that as well

Or blast them if neccesary

[crystal pilot]

lmao

[crystal pilot]

how do you avoid shooter shots though?

[digital mural]

Eeeeh
Usually 2 of us are crouching in front and the other 2 standing behind them

If we have to move then we can do it without killing each other

[crystal pilot]

can you dodge whilst crouched?

[crystal pilot]

and what about if i'm playing with bots?

[burnt inlet]

good luck lol, could try to stand behind them

was OG rundowns harder than ALT?

[hasty crane]

In R8E2 I saw during a Speedrun that you can end one of the alarms early by teleporting to Brazil using the red security circles in the secondary.
Is dealing with that wave easier than the alarm or just done because it's faster?

[past mesa]

Hello

No

[carmine grotto]

not too much faster depending on how much time you have left. Not that much easier either since you need to do it pretty quickly after completing the reactor

[digital mural]

Shoot them

[past mesa]

The reason it is done is so you can do the class 6 during reactor in the tp strategy it is easier than the current method witch is Tpless but it doesn’t lose time compared to a normal clear

It is much harder than a normal clear mainly because you end up stacking waves and those enemies will come find you later

[hasty crane]

I see
So for a normal run you wouldn't recommend trying it

[past mesa]

If you want to turn off the class 6

After reactor yeah

if you want to have fun

It is a nice route

If you want a clear it isn’t easier

Unless you can just deal with a up to 3 tank whenever

[hasty crane]

Probably not lol
Thanks for the info

[tardy ingot]

ay jish

we are potentially 1 good R6D1 cycle skip run away from a sub 3 hour R6

[knotty relic]

No. Crouching is too slow to dodge shootter shots. They'll catch you. If you see a shooter shoot at you. Watch the projectile's movement and stand up and walk out of the way. It's much faster and safer.

[digital mural]

Tank the shooter projectiles

[past mesa]

Ooo

But you mean

One run

Or sum of best

[hasty crane]

Also does shaking your camera actually help dodge shooter shots
I have seen Eva do it a bunch in their Speedrun videos
Is there a method to it?

[past mesa]

Ehhhhh

[ocean spindle]

did we both stopped typing

[knotty relic]

Shaking the camera?

[past mesa]

in old gtfo yes

[ocean spindle]

going wuwuwuwu side to side

[digital mural]

Insane GTFO tech

[knotty relic]

Why would that do anything at all?

[ionic leaf]

is it safer to clear every zone for R2D2 first before the reactor or go to the zones as instructed by the reactor prompts?

[tardy ingot]

sum of best
I calced a bit, you can likely get a sub 3:20 with a good rundown 6%

[ocean spindle]

the zones are closed off without starting the reactor up

they unlock based on the wave u are

[past mesa]

Old GTFO you could look down and shooters couldn’t hit you

[ocean spindle]

u cannot pre-clean them

[digital mural]

You cant, they are locked

[ionic leaf]

ah, damn

[tardy ingot]

iirc it still does smth
you just cant do the crazy look down strat anymore

[ocean spindle]

gotta start practicing that fast stealth and knowin when to pull rooms

[knotty relic]

But... but why? That doesn't make any sense at all. Did they used to aim projectiles directly at the player viewpoint?

[past mesa]

Correct

[ocean spindle]

:D

[knotty relic]

That's actual blashpemy. Bout to to break into 10 Chambers head quarters and find out why that was a programming decision.

Only the players' viewpoint?

[tardy ingot]

this isnt even remotely the worst thing that could happen lol

[knotty relic]

Optimistically to be fair to the player so they can see the round coming?

I don't know.

[prime musk]

this game is held together by duct tape and it's part of why we hate love it

[knotty relic]

I mean they obviously fixed that shooter tracking.

I have been caught in the ass sooooo many times trying to kite shooters.

[civic wave]

yeah, it existed in the game up until og r5

[knotty relic]

Can't make it very far away when you're not looking at them. Unless I suck lol

[prime musk]

shootercapping is the least common and least useful form of kiting ngl

[knotty relic]

It kinda sucks

When they surround you in a big room it feels impossible to out dodge max spawn cap shooters.

[prime musk]

it pretty much is without cover

[tardy ingot]

to explain this a bit
it no longer directly evades, but the slight pathing change can result in a dodge

[hasty crane]

Thank you for the explanation
I got a little lost in the discord wizard sauce

[past mesa]

Do you know how the first scan in r8e2 works

we can give you info sometimes jumping in it can save the run

[hasty crane]

I am not sure what you are referring to
I know that during the first alarm you should use your c foam trip mines to keep the door closed during the full team scans

[civic wave]

i believe jish is referring to the first scan in the room that has the first reactor code

[hasty crane]

The only thing I know about that room is that you can jump on the lights and skip the broken scans

[past mesa]

The very first scan in that room tps you

You can res people in that dimension so if you have a 3 down jumping into the scan is really strong

the scan maintains through all reactor cycles if you plug before 2mons

[hasty crane]

Before 2mons?

Oh minutes
My b

[errant dome]

wont alive enemies wait for u right where u were downed?

i remember smthin like that happening 2 me at one point

[sturdy glen]

it can happen

but its always preferable to being in a 3 down situation

[errant dome]

fair enuf

[sturdy glen]

yeah, I looked back and im pretty happy with the time we got with no preparation

[errant dome]

im not rlly 2 sure how their pathing works when ur in brazil

all i remember is that i had 1 run where i had a similar thought and when i got back i got insta punched by 2 shadow giants xd

i think a tank was also there

run was prolly fked anyways

[tardy ingot]

Oh def

Honestly the only derp is that mwp drop

that r6cx time was also unironically exactly where my expectations are for a good r6% run r6cx

[tardy ingot]

Depends on level

[grizzled widget]

i hate how they moved all of the r6 extension expeditions down one tier.

[sturdy glen]

I think the only levels with significant improvement are d3 and d4 in that

[grizzled widget]

makes it annoying to talk about

[sturdy glen]

we repeat a d3 wave iirc

and d4 has logs now

free time save!!

[tardy ingot]

I cant remember the times you had of the top of my head

ye just quick checked

had some damn good times for a few levels

D4 is def not great. But aside from that only AX, BX and D3 are outside my expectations for what should generally be in the run times (and crazy 3-4 sec time loss on r6c3 smh)

also which wave did you repeat?

[sturdy glen]

last an extra time

tank didnt go well

almost had a 3down I think

[tardy ingot]

oh damn

iirc theres only like 1 key that allows a 1 cycle

so its always a 2 cycle (unless you get a rly dogshit key and smth goes wrong)

actually might be 2

dont remember

[sturdy glen]

it became a 3

[minor fractal]

Jish was not checked in during R6D3

That's all I remember

[sturdy glen]

LOL

[prime cliff]

how do you efficiently ladder foam

esp the one on r2e1

[sturdy glen]

bring an auto sentry

[burnt inlet]

Chat we got an exploiter on our hands

[upper ginkgo]

crazy we don't have the cfoam ladder guide yet

[sturdy glen]

unironically auto sentry just clears

[minor fractal]

The unironic ladder foam strat is to only spend like 60% on a ladder.

Diminishing returns hit pretty quickly.

[tiny wyvern]

If you really want to know you just go from top to bottom

[prime cliff]

so foam top of ladder instead of bottom

[burnt inlet]

No the entire ladder

[tiny wyvern]

From top to bottom, aim for the top and slowly go down towards the bottom

[prime musk]

the best ladderfoam is the hel auto sentry

[tiny wyvern]

(actually aside from R2e1 is there any point in the game afterwards where ladderfoam is more efficient than sentry?)

[burnt inlet]

Chat quick question does ladder foam cause the rest of the enemies to just stand still or do they route to somewhere diff?

[frail heart]

no they will still take the ladder if it is the fastest path

[tiny wyvern]

That's why ladderfoam is really good

[burnt inlet]

So is ladder foam just to get all of the enemies foamed up? (🤨 )

[tiny wyvern]

no, it blocks traffic

[burnt inlet]

Im so confoosed

[tiny wyvern]

Since only one sleeper can go down the road

having one stuck blocks the road

[frail heart]

no so basically a coupple enemies will get foamed on the ladder and all the other will just be waiting

[tiny wyvern]

the blockade doesn't change how sleepers path

So they'll wait there

Forever
Until the foam goes away

Or they use up all the foam

[burnt inlet]

Oh ok, so like 4 sleepers will be foamed and the rest will wait for the foam to go away

[tiny wyvern]

No, usually two or so
If you do it properly

[burnt inlet]

And whilst they wait the sentries pointed at their back will kill the waiting sleepers

[civic wave]

it's all psuedoscience

[burnt inlet]

Fair enough

[tiny wyvern]

No, you leave them alive

To abuse spawn cap

of 25

[burnt inlet]

Oooooooh

Now I get the Strat

And does the foam naturally go away?

[civic wave]

but yes, literally just take auto sentry for r2e1

it's easier and more effective

(something something cap fps for ladder foam)

secret tech

[burnt inlet]

(Im not a cheater (also why im not using boosters (this will offend a minority of the playerbase)))

[tiny wyvern]

Usually before it does the sleepers would've eaten all of it

[burnt inlet]

Oh should’ve clarified, does the foam on foamed sleepers (🤨) naturally go away or is it when you shoot them?

[tiny wyvern]

foamed enemies natural break out after some time

[burnt inlet]

Aight

[tiny wyvern]

The few times I remember using ladderfoam was for a surge charger alarm on a first door somewhere

And R2E1 when I had to do it in pubs

[burnt inlet]

Pubs moment

[tiny wyvern]

The other times were more for fun
That and we had so much tool we just decided to faq it

[burnt inlet]

I mean running with bots it would be hard to babysit a ladder and run to scans rite? (Or are they close enough so you could run back and forth)

[prime musk]

^ this shows that you don't know what ladderfoam is or how it works

[burnt inlet]

Bru

[minor fractal]

You set up the foam before the alarm

and then just do scans

[burnt inlet]

Oh and the time for the eepers to break from the foam is quite large?

[tiny wyvern]

Depends on the ladder

[minor fractal]

It depends on system specs and is otherwise largely random.

[tiny wyvern]

Is cfoam tolerance frame based or smth

[burnt inlet]

Prolly considering someone said the fps cap thingy

[minor fractal]

A lot of enemy movement is frame based.

[burnt inlet]

^

[minor fractal]

But the difference is much more significant if enemies are far away.

[burnt inlet]

Yea I’ve seen enemies glide across like they Jesus or sum

[minor fractal]

In R2E1 it's mostly random

Average ladder foam lengths is probably around a minute, minute and a half

But it can end up lasting much longer if you're lucky.

[burnt inlet]

I thought they broke away like after 20-30 seconds

[minor fractal]

What do you think the ladder foam is doing?

If you had to describe it

[burnt inlet]

Ok so Bacisly before alarm foam the ladder, when alarm is pulled the sleepers will go down the ladder one by one and if ur good at it after two have gone down they are stuck due to the foam which will make the rest of the eepers wait until those ones have been either killed or cleared the foam on them. This is so that u dont need to kill 40 waves whilst doing alarm scans and only need to kill like 25 sleepers

[minor fractal]

if ur good at it
If you are lucky.

How are you getting 20-30 seconds out of this?

[burnt inlet]

^

[burnt inlet]

no it’s just initially I thought enemies cleared the foam from themselves after like 20-30 seconds which they don’t

Im no foam user

So like

Yanno

[tiny wyvern]

Isn't it usually more than that?

R2E1 you usually get like minutes out of it if you're going overkill on it

[burnt inlet]

It’s just me being drunk tbh (without drinking)

[minor fractal]

So, if we think about the ideal case where only 1 enemy gets on the ladder, am I correct in thinking that your thought process is that the enemy foams on the ladder, it unfoams after a 20 second timer, and then all of the enemies go through?

[burnt inlet]

Initially I thought that it was 20 second timer, now I do not think so

[minor fractal]

And this is the individual timer for the enemy?

[burnt inlet]

1-1.5 mins

[minor fractal]

It's 8 seconds acc. to datablocks.

Not asking about ladder foam duration

[tiny wyvern]

It might be better if we just show you how ridiculous it is honestly

[minor fractal]

I'm asking about individual enemy foam duration, is that what you're saying?

[burnt inlet]

Ye

[tardy ingot]

the enemy refoams on ladder

[minor fractal]

^

[tardy ingot]

and is stuck there

[burnt inlet]

Oooooooh

[minor fractal]

If you have 1 enemy on ladder, so ideal case, and you spend 60% foam on ladder (36 blobs)

[burnt inlet]

I thought it ate up majority on the ladder and just stayed there for a bit

[minor fractal]

The enemy will foam on the ladder for 4 blobs for 8 seconds repeatedly

[burnt inlet]

Not like

One by one

[minor fractal]

So in the ideal case, this one enemy will refoam 9 times

lasting 72 seconds

So the ladder foam in an ideal case w/ 60% foam spent will last for over a minute.

[burnt inlet]

Ok so Bacisly how I thought (chronological order) was at first enemy foamed (lasts 20-30 seconds), then second thought was 1 min to 1.5 min and now the correct which is 8 seconds

Smth smth English isn’t my mother tongue smth smth im worse in Swedish actually smth smth cope

[minor fractal]

Yes, the foam duration per enemy is very short

But ladder foam blocks off waves of 20+ enemies by repeatedly refoaming just 1-2 enemies on a ladder, where those 1-2 enemies block off access to the ladder for the entire rest of the wave.

[tardy ingot]

and thats where the rng comes in

[burnt inlet]

Fair

[sturdy glen]

tldr, just use auto sentry

[burnt inlet]

Yep

[minor fractal]

The diminishing returns come from enemies over time getting on the ladder. Ladder foam can last an extremely long time so long as it's just 1 enemy. As soon as 4 or more enemies are getting on the ladder, they will start eating through the foam very rapidly (literally 4x the rate).

[burnt inlet]

Im not using this Strat

[burnt inlet]

Yea it scales with the eepers on it

[minor fractal]

On average, ladder foam breaks at an exponential rate.

[burnt inlet]

Knowing me it would break 25x quicker than everyone else

[minor fractal]

But it's stochastic, so it might take a very long time to accelerate, or it might break very rapidly.

[burnt inlet]

That’s another word for my vocabulary

[carmine grotto]

doing 7e1, we did the full room scan, the door never opened on the side, went to brazil, did the segment, came back. Door opened when we looked at terminal. Now we are in brazil again. Any hope or soft locked?

[native sun]

I assume the command in Brazil is not there anymore?

[carmine grotto]

yeah

both the full room scan and the brazil command registered as complete. doors opened when we looked at the full room terminal again

[native sun]

Yeah this sounds like a softlock, very unfortunate

[tiny wyvern]

Rejoin might help, but a bit too late on my part

[carmine grotto]

we waited for about 10 mins, nothing happened

[remote lion]

yo any tips for a newbie?

[prime musk]

record yourself and review your gameplay afterwards, comparing to what better players do in similar situations

[unborn glen]

so the second half of R8 flips difficulty on its head, and the a mission isnt technically 'A' difficulty, right?

are the R6 X missions the same?

like would R6AX be considered more difficult than the average A mission

[frail heart]

Yeah

Move each one down a tier and that’s their difficulty

They actually used to be called BX, CX, and DX

Then it got changed in alt

[unborn glen]

thanks!

[hard nexus]

men va fan

i think cx is still a dx worthy

ax and bx are pretty easy tho

but idk

its just the 30fps uplink fiesta that messes people up man

[prime musk]

ax bx cx all deserve their previous namings.

[grizzled patrol]

tbh i would disagree with ax and bx. they dont deserve to be B and C tier

[tardy ingot]

AX is 100% a B tier lol

people rly looking a AX and saying its easier than B tiers

[grizzled patrol]

idk its not hard. just very long

[tardy ingot]

its neither

its not super long

its also not „hard“

But its a B tier

compare this to any other B tier

Which is harder?

[grizzled patrol]

long for a A tier

[tardy ingot]

Its a B tier no shit

[tardy ingot]

.

[grizzled patrol]

i dont see what you mean by this. how another B tier being harder justifies it being B tier?

[tardy ingot]

the point is that most B tiers are easier than R6AX (or at worst somewhat similar in difficulty)

I can think of 3 B tiers tops (ignoring R8 2nd half as those are intended to be harder than a B) that id say are harder

[grizzled patrol]

imho accounting other rundowns into it doesnt make any sense, since the difficulty is all over the place. if you do compare it to R6 where is actually came from, sure i would say that it is harder than b1. i dont think at its hardest point b2 is harder than what ax presents at its hardest. It is longer, but longer doesnt mean harder, its just a endurance test

sure you can say that secondary doesnt factor in since you can always just do main and skip it, but at that point what are you even doing there

[tardy ingot]

it is harder than R6B1 and R6B2

reminder, main only counts for these

also for gods sake
R6AX isnt long

[hard nexus]

i mean its like r5a2/r5a3pe

[tardy ingot]

optionals dont matter for this

[hard nexus]

how convenient

[tardy ingot]

its not how convenient

thats how its handled lol

[hard nexus]

what was r7b3 main

i dont remember

[tardy ingot]

?

ah

1 blood door, 1 cluster alarm, respawn stealth zones
1 normal alarm
extract error (with 1 big spawned wave)

[hard nexus]

also r5b3 is harder than ax

[tardy ingot]

yea

R5B3 and B4

R8B2 main maybe

[hard nexus]

nah r8b2 is really easy

[tardy ingot]

R7B3 is the last maybe

[hard nexus]

tho idk how main is different from sec

never done it

[tardy ingot]

bruh

"never done it" - its rly easy

[hard nexus]

i mean u can only do 1

if sec is easy af

[tardy ingot]

you could just go back

[hard nexus]

surely main is

[tardy ingot]

also "easy af" is a garbage way to rank

R6D2 is easy af

its not the same

[hard nexus]

r6d2 IS easy af

[tardy ingot]

...

and you are trying to rank difficulty lol

[hard nexus]

the only difficult part in r6ax is big flyers if u dont know how to deal with em

i suppose first half of it also contains like a fuckton of giants

its basically r2b2

in terms of how many giants u have to clear

"have to"

idk if its me getting better at the game overtime or what but r6d2 og was harder than alt

like they castrated the level so much

[tardy ingot]

they legit didnt change it lol

[hard nexus]

error alarm was harder

[tardy ingot]

not rly

[hard nexus]

mauybe just me then

also idk why but opening blood door in secondary makes it easier

i will die on that hill

[prime musk]

because you can long kite entire level if you do that

[hard nexus]

i never do that

if we wipe we wipe

but idk its like

the ai director cant decide where to spawn enemies or some shit, it feels way easier

or when they come out of room they cant decide who to aggro for a bit

[tardy ingot]

it realistically isnt
since if you leave it closed you can spawn block and perma foam 1 door or funnel and perma shoot 1 path

[hard nexus]

i cant recall the last time someone either

took cfoam for 6d2
had any tool by secondary

also they can still come from 2 ways so not really

[tardy ingot]

foam for r6d2 can make the cluster alarm and sec free

sentries work too but make sec harder

[tardy ingot]

no

spawnblock makes it 1

[hard nexus]

aw mate

u think people fucking know about spawn block

kekw

they used to when gtfo was in early access 1 rundown at a time

its a magic trick at your local static from like ages ago now

boomer strats

[hardy grotto]

Tbf that one defense sucks

it’s like 2 way split

Kinda ass

But I’ve only ever done it as client in pubs

and it’s not the most enjoyable experience

[hard nexus]

in general spawnblock strats are boring af

the only one i dont mind is if u get zone 41 shit terminal

in r4b3

because there is a fucking room divider within same room and they can spawn right on your ass

its the only time i give dibs to uplink to someone else because they dont know how uplink spawns work

[burnt inlet]

Något något vårda språket något något sov längre

[hard nexus]

same

[safe cradle]

I feel bad when suggesting it because it's basically asking for someone to stand in a room doing nothing

[gritty tusk]

hellow gtfo chat

my friends and I just came back to the game

and want to reattempt R1C1(made us quit lol)

[safe cradle]

#gtfo-chat message

[gritty tusk]

any tips to maybe increase our chances of survive the horde

I see

thank you

[ocean spindle]

im checkin old staats of guns, and i remember how the popular vote was that pdw was about the best main or at least the best full auto in the game
it has a difference of 2.3 vs 2.15 dmg

hel shotgun was so misunderstood fr

guys did u kno pressin control + backspace deletes an entire word

i have never remembered that even tho i started on r7 when it was introduced

[tiny wyvern]

Didn't know that

Thanks

...pls don't be misinfo I beg of you

[digital mural]

It is misinfo

[ocean spindle]

#patch-notes message

[civic wave]

do it in an old rundown and it adds an unreadable character to the terminal

god i love old terminals

[digital mural]

Were old terminals worse?

[flat oar]

i love when hop on terminal and need to type ping to see what is the current zone

[ocean spindle]

i like how u say that thinkin that the terminal has never changed

[digital mural]

Idk

I started playing mid 2023

Let me download OG R1 and test it myself

[ocean spindle]

well skill issue

play sooner

[digital mural]

time travel

[ocean spindle]

OMG GIFT???

FIFTY GTFDOLLARS??

<@&408548765599793173> 50 dollars

[civic wave]

I'm rich

[ocean spindle]

click the one in every channel

immediately wins

[digital mural]

ITS MINE

GET AWAY

[civic wave]

in some ways yes, in other ways they were better

[ocean spindle]

terminal booster

[civic wave]

I'm not getting into it right now because I'm on the bus

[ocean spindle]

omg goat on the public transport where will they go

[grizzled patrol]

Uplink codes in Log files was crazy

[ocean spindle]

me when corrupted

[civic wave]

there was also terminal passcodes iirc, at least for r5a3

[tiny wyvern]

Like a password?

Or is it something else?

[civic wave]

yes, passwords

I could go into zone 44 to get the code from a terminal, or i could read logs instead...

[crystal pilot]

is the hel revolver a two shot kill?

does ir have more range than the pistol?

[crystal pilot]

one headshot one bodyshot

[minor fractal]

Yes.

It has noticeable fall-off, but it's not nearly as sharp as pistol

[tawdry plover]

What are the different Run Downs?

[minor fractal]

They're a kind of campaign

R1-R3, R4-R5, and R6-R8 are broad "eras" for the game. It's best to start in either R1 or R6.

[burnt inlet]

Should I just jump from r2 to r6? I cba with reactor and wanna get the lore a bit more

Like it’s either that or be stuck on same level for like 2 weeks (or until I get a squad)

[minor fractal]

Probably also be playing R3 and R6 ngl

[burnt inlet]

I played until r3a3 and then yanno reactor moment

[minor fractal]

If you get stuck on R3A3, it might be time to skill prog

[burnt inlet]

Fair, it’s just that I run out of resources (specifically health and gun which is interesting combo) due to me not being able to loot as much

[past mesa]

Tbh Ray

R3a3 is the 3rd hardest r3 mission or something

[burnt inlet]

Specially with bots I’m assuming

[past mesa]

Duo

[burnt inlet]

Like I almost get to the finish line

But it’s just

Barely out of my reach

[minor fractal]

Idk, I feel like 3 hands from bots is enough

[burnt inlet]

Feels like I’m just playing waiting to get good rng or sum

[minor fractal]

You just open every box/locker when you go to a code zone

And carry big ammo yourself

[civic wave]

many months ago i did the level with a shitass loadout and 3 bots, can't be too bad, skill progged a lot since then

[burnt inlet]

Yea I do that but I can’t explore the entire zone due to time limit

[minor fractal]

On code 2, sure

But every code after, zones are very straightforward

[burnt inlet]

And code 4 I believe (first security door after the other security door open)

[burnt inlet]

I agree with this but it’s just clearing everything whilst not wasting resources takes time (I do also pull some rooms)

[past mesa]

Huh

[minor fractal]

"Wasting" is kind of a trap

[past mesa]

Ngl Batman

I don’t understand this

[burnt inlet]

It’s more so that I just repeat it and get to about the same spot and not much further

[minor fractal]

You kind of want to move from box to box as fast as possible

If you're losing consistently in a specific zone, it's probably a strat issue

[burnt inlet]

Should I just pull every room then?

[past mesa]

He

Yes

There isn’t a scary room only maybe the scout

In code 4

[minor fractal]

You should probably sprint and melee

And when room goes up, you just shoot

If you are looting even a single extra 2-use ammo that way, you are already making a lot of ammo back

[burnt inlet]

It’s more so that I’m losing out on resources cuz everyone’s full and there’s still like 4 packs and I can’t run there after I put code in/after I clear wave cuz then I need to run to the other zone

[burnt inlet]

There isn’t a scout

[minor fractal]

If you're full on resources, how do you run out?

[burnt inlet]

Im full and by end of wave im back to 0

[minor fractal]

And you are all carrying packs?

[past mesa]

What guns are you running through 100/100 on

[crystal pilot]

is there a way to change the character you play as?

[minor fractal]

No.

[burnt inlet]

Yep, though usually can’t check 100% due to me getting back to the terminal with 10 seconds left

[past mesa]

No*

[burnt inlet]

Hel revo and hel rifle

[past mesa]

Something is going horribly wrong

[minor fractal]

Something wacky is happening if you are spending 100/100 ammo, + a 5-use

and running completely dry

[burnt inlet]

Thinking about switching to hel shotgun but idk

[tardy ingot]

Especially with sentries and 3 bots also shooting

[burnt inlet]

I usually save a sentry from wave 1-4

And I set up at the left side of the bridge (closest to terminal)

[minor fractal]

Let's be more specific

[glad sun]

r3a3 took my group like 5 tries to beat the first time

[minor fractal]

How many uses of ammo do you have with you on wave 5?

[glad sun]

Didn't help we were very much noobs and was our 7th mission or something

[burnt inlet]

It’s either been 2 pack or 0

[minor fractal]

2-use?

[burnt inlet]

Yea

[minor fractal]

That's probably the problem, then.

You want to find a 5-use out of either code 3 or 4.

[burnt inlet]

And save it?

[minor fractal]

Generally burn low uses, hold high uses.

But there's like 10+ uses of ammo in both zones

[burnt inlet]

should I just let the bots refill?

[minor fractal]

y

If you're low going in, just let them burn 2s

[burnt inlet]

Aight

[minor fractal]

If you have enough extra, then you and a bot can hold ammo packs

[burnt inlet]

Though I find it hard to get the bots to pickup stuff like tool refill to use on each other when they already have a pack

[minor fractal]

Ideally bots will grab stuff they can burn, if you're standing close to box/locker you can burn it yourself w/ some maneuvering.

[tardy ingot]

they prio medi and wont swap off it

[burnt inlet]

Oh ok

[minor fractal]

The big thing is just, it sounds like you are leaving a lot of ammo in the zones

[burnt inlet]

So if they have a one use medi I need to take dmg to get them to drop it?

[minor fractal]

And ammo is the main thing that lets you keep going

[burnt inlet]

Probably, I look at the map and I see a lot of orange lockers but never just the time to get them when I’ve checked

[tardy ingot]

To use it

[burnt inlet]

Well yea Misinput

[wild flare]

you can just shoot bots to force them to use medpacks

[wild flare]

their prio is

medpack>ammo>tool>disinfect

[burnt inlet]

Fair

[burnt inlet]

So much ammo and then I have to pick up all the tool😭, I want a mod that puts them all equal except disinfect cuz the bots should not have that

[wild flare]

this mode exist iirc

you can ask in modded server or in this server, i forgot mod name

Zombified_Initiative found it

[burnt inlet]

Ty

[burnt inlet]

unironically this is what i wanted the bots to be like ty

[prime musk]

modded bots i can't believe you'd stoop to such lows

[burnt inlet]

i just want them to do what i tell them to 😭

[long nimbus]

hey, at least the bots are way better at knowing what to do than pubs

[burnt inlet]

How hard is r8a1?

[grizzled widget]

compared to?

[burnt inlet]

Literally anything

[grizzled widget]

i'd say it's like r1b1

[burnt inlet]

Im wondering if I could beat it

[burnt inlet]

Actually?

[grizzled widget]

it's not too bad.

it's like a middle between a and b if i remember correctly

i haven't played it in a long while

[burnt inlet]

R7a1 wasn’t that bad either, actually very surprised that it was that easy

[burnt inlet]

Aight, tyty

[grizzled widget]

y, u dropping in solo?

[burnt inlet]

With bots most likely

[tardy ingot]

its an A tier

id try to avoid skipping into R8 tho

do it last

[burnt inlet]

Yea but like it’s all the way at r7

[tardy ingot]

its the best payoff

[burnt inlet]

Aight

[grizzled widget]

that's not what that means.

[tardy ingot]

reminder that we only had 1 rundown at a time for 7 of them

A meant A

[burnt inlet]

Ik

[grizzled widget]

this

[burnt inlet]

Fair enough

[tardy ingot]

the main objective difficulty is generally very similar across rundowns

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the number only means how recent it was made so how complex it is in terms of stuff in it

[tardy ingot]

R5 probably being the roughest one for mains

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gtfo was primarily FOMO

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Yea, I mean I expected a bit of a challenge but was proven otherwise

[tiny wyvern]

Oh right you're doing solo

(Good luck on R8C1)

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Im trying to find a proper squad

But I just don’t wanna play with randoms and switch squads every rundown

[hard nexus]

skissue

just press matchmake

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R6 siege moment (there’s a reason I replaced it with GTFO)

[hard nexus]

never seemd like a game worth playing

so i never did

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I used to play death stranding like a lot

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It’s fun when you have friends/are laughing at ur cracked up teammates/not taking it seriously

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Even though after end game you're doing absolutely nothing outside of repairing things that are degrading

Can't wait for death stranding 2 to come out

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Idek what death stranding is

…

Quite uncultured

[tiny wyvern]

Good
Hideo kojinkles games aren't for everyone

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mailman.

fallout new vegas, japan edition

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Mailman who repairs

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Ok how do I say this in the uhh most non confrontational way

I don’t remember which fallout new Vegas is

😭🙏

[tiny wyvern]

You play as Sam Bridges working for, you guessed it Bridges
Meeting really interesting characters like

Deadman
Fragile
Heartman
And at the end of the game you get a baby

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courier shot in the head and left for dead near goodsprings has made a full recovery

now that courier is mailing a fucking bullet

[tiny wyvern]

bandage man in a cave reloading an infinite pile of pistols

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to the checkered-suit fuck that put him in the ground.

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…

I think I uhh

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it's a great game.

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Didn’t miss much

Seems like a meme game

[tiny wyvern]

It's a nice game

The speedrun has you flying

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Metal gear rising moment

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Skipping brazil?

[tiny wyvern]

And blowing people up when they don't have the items you need

Like a true american

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Don’t they blow up the people who have what they want (ie oil?)

[digital mural]

I heard oil

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😭🙏

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Go back in ur hsu

Hsu filled with

Yanno

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Time to go to sleep with piss and shit

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😭🙏

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we wake up gasping for air

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God I love this community

So funni

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Not coughing up our own shitpiss slurry

Also there was a guy before that asked if uhhh precious cfoam fluid exit ur body when dead

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i have no idea.

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I think Pable volunteered to research

To which I sent Jarvis to get their browser history

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you know, not many people book a tour of the morgue

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😭🙏

Im also good

Couldn’t bear the smell

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what smell?

you'd smell the same thing at funeral parlors

it's all hyper-sanitized.

the organs come out first.

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Fair enough

But also only been to one funeral (I was prolly 9) to which he was cremated so yanno didn’t smell anything

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its a very sanitary business. respect for the dead, and whatnot

more respect for the dead than the homeless in the streets

its a cruel world.

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Fair enough

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I blame the warden

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cut em' up, take all the organs out, put the stuffing in, seal the orifices, make em' presentable, and stitch a suit on.

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I thought they’d stay in there for way longer

Like rotten flesh longer

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absolutely not.

even for cremations, they are all prepared similarly for a showing.

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Fair enough

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don't ask why i'm so informed on this topic

i know a lot about a lot of things.

including torture

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You know something about something and therefore can tie your shoe (dw if you don’t get this)

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”Jarvis, get this guys search history too”

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nah, it just comes from growing up in the sticks'. a tiny town in the middle of nowhere.

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Thats uhhh

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you're bound to have at least one relative in every related occupation

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The sticks?

Never heard of it

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its a saying for "the middle of-nowhere"

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Someone prolly was a fed

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Oh fair enough

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nothing around for miles, no other towns, etc

largest city in the entire county where i grew up had less than 10,000 people.

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Well I could never

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was mostly farmland for almost 1.5k square kilometers

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🥸

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no, but three police officers.

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I require somewhere that’s at least a bit central

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Oh rite fed isn’t police forgor

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i like the wilderness. i spend a fair bit of hiking, even after moving westward.

its way, WAY more populated around portland.

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Yea I just sit inside all day 🥸, my current town is a bit rural but it’s good enough