gtfo-related-questions

[frail heart]

i am i believe 5'10

[safe cradle]

Imagined it'd be much more like 180

[frail heart]

eva is like 6'3

hafumi is 5'2

[safe cradle]

Holland's the one with supertall people I guess

[digital mural]

Cute

[safe cradle]

For references 5'2 is 157cm, 6'3 is 190 more or less.

Yeah, Netherland average male height is 182cm.

that's a lot

[topaz anvil]

Shame. Maybe next year

[frail heart]

Maybe maybe

ill be in europe neext year

[soft crater]

I don't have enough disposable income for that

[frail heart]

Should've won the speedrunning comp 🥱

[hard nexus]

not many but some folks are huge

either average or 6'5

no in between

[topaz anvil]

Earn more money

[turbid horizon]

Yeah dutch people are really tall

i learned this during the olympics

Netherlands is the tallest country in the world

also i would know, I’m dutch

[soft crater]

drives forklift with finesse

[floral acorn]

back when t-rex and jesus reigned, i had some irc friends in maassluis, even visited them once. awesome place, awesome people.

[turbid horizon]

(I’ve never been to the netherlands I’m just dutch and 6’5)

[floral acorn]

hihihi.. fifth element "welcome lady.. .. tall.."

[civic wave]

why is everyone taller than me

i mean not that i'm complaining, i sorta enjoy having people be a bit taller than me

[turbid horizon]

don’t be sad

doorframes are my mortal enemy

[soft crater]

It's a titan

[silent delta]

skill diff

[tiny wyvern]

is that a british thing

[turbid horizon]

no that’s knives

[wet bear]

So you break them every time?

[civic wave]

is what a british thing?

[tiny wyvern]

I have like a flatmate that keeps getting worried he's going to get shived on his way back from lectures

[tiny wyvern]

Being generally short

[civic wave]

i'm not short

[wet bear]

And dismemberment is for some of Russia?

[tiny wyvern]

Most of the people I know from England aren't particularly tall

[civic wave]

you get a wide breadth of heights here

[tiny wyvern]

Yeah i suppose it

make sense

[wet bear]

Then become a titan our world haven't seen yet

[civic wave]

no.

[wet bear]

Sadge

[past mesa]

There is this really cool trick

With doors

[turbid horizon]

If u say doorbug i stg

[past mesa]

Actually I just need to close the door and have your mom and me on one side and you on the other

Might bring back memories

Think it is called exposure therapy

[sturdy glen]

the doorbug joke is dead, ur only allowed to make frame rate jokes now

[past mesa]

Can I make Ksi gtfo edits

To the ring

[civic furnace]

No

[topaz anvil]

Is this a cry for help?

[half cape]

how do i remove bots and invite a friend midgame?

[flat oar]

esc and do the same as you are in the lobby

[half cape]

preciate it

[broken coyote]

what sniper insta kills the big dudes?

[digital mural]

The only actual sniper

Koning is the only sniper in the game

[broken coyote]

does that one shot the big dudes

[digital mural]

Yes

[broken coyote]

k thanks

[digital mural]

But

I wouldnt recommend running sniper at all

[broken coyote]

why?

[digital mural]

Its bad in general

You can kill bigs with something like hel rifle, burst cannon even shotguns and You get more use out of those guns

[broken coyote]

yea I know but this is for ealier levels not for later levels

[digital mural]

Yeah i understand im just saying

A lot of people fall into the "newbie" trap

[broken coyote]

yea thanks

[soft crater]

"we need sniper for scouts"

[ocean spindle]

the other snipers that are not snipers are the precision rifle n hel rifle

u can just call em that

[digital mural]

"snipers that are not snipers"

[soft crater]

Meanwhile they see me kill it with hel revo

[ocean spindle]

ik

[narrow niche]

pable :3

[heady moat]

Is it actually possible?

[digital mural]

Ifiiiiiiiii

[narrow niche]

heyyy

:3

[soft crater]

same as DMR. 1 tap occi. 1 tap back

it's not oneshot but it can kill scout

There's numerous weapons that can kill scout if you take in to consideration of 2-3 bullets with occi/back

[hollow cipher]

What is the command to list the resources and objectives in the terminal? Is it something like "LIST U_E_ZONE_30"

[flat oar]

list u e_30
list res e_30
list re zone_30
even if list u 30 is still work(this is bad dont do it)

it kinda flexible

[soft crater]

I wouldn't recommend doing that last one

[flat oar]

yeah i should state that not a good one

[past mesa]

Just memorize all the ammo’s pre
Zone

Then filter it in your own Brian

[green bronze]

hello jish

[past mesa]

Hello Simon

[green bronze]

doyou feel better now

[past mesa]

no

I feel like I want to end my existence

[green bronze]

:(

[past mesa]

🙂

[green bronze]

Voxy and Jish are now best friends

have the same goal

[soft crater]

[hollow cipher]

What is the best special weapons in the game? I played during alpha and forgot which ones were good

I like the sniper and saw it got an ammo nerf

[flat oar]

special weapon mean to do specific thing. some good at small enermy some good at large one

[fierce walrus]

Most of them are pretty good at their own thing but the overall accepted meta is:
Scatergun, burst cannon, hel rifle, hel gun, veruta machinegun

[hollow cipher]

What other weapons are good for taking out big guys? I remember there being some shotguns that weren't really all that loved

[fierce walrus]

Scatergun is king for big boys

other than that, burst cannon is very good

[hollow cipher]

Do people still like using the sniper?

[fierce walrus]

Ehhh its not horrible… but if you used pre nerf sniper it feels unsuable

[errant dome]

veruta is NOT on the same level as the other guns u mentioned

[tardy ingot]

and then a buff
And then a nerf
And then a buff
And then a buff
And then a nerf
And then a buff
And then a buff

(For ammo only)
Snipers quite shit rn tho

[hollow cipher]

Hahahaha

[tardy ingot]

Not veruta

[fierce walrus]

i wanted to add a clearly wave clear gun which veruta is

[tardy ingot]

Hel rifle and hel gun

[fierce walrus]

time to get flamed for adding an extra gun by the elitists, whatever shall i do
/s

[errant dome]

hel rifle and hel gun are far superior at wave clear its not even close

[tardy ingot]

also combat shotgun actually doing the wave clear focus way better

[fierce walrus]

oh right forgot about that one

[tardy ingot]

like, im on the side that veruta is fine for most gameplay for sure, contrary to some people seeing it as „dogshit tier“

But its definetly not on the meta level

[errant dome]

dont get me wrong, veruta aint bad, its just not on the same level as hel gun and hel rifle

[fierce walrus]

yeah fair

depends where you place the line for „meta”

[hollow cipher]

What gun is the veruta, I can't find it

Just curious what gun it is

[tardy ingot]

Like using? Yes
Beginners and people who just dont wanna quit it

But the gun got absolutely shat on with the last rundown release changes

[fierce walrus]

also i completely forgot about combat shotty, defo would have added it instead

[tardy ingot]

One of the two machine guns

[fierce walrus]

one of the 2 machineguns

[tardy ingot]

@hollow cipher honestly if you are interested in the current gun stuff

Check this

#guides-and-reviews message

[errant dome]

tbh unless ur doing solo or duo runs u can more or less get away with any gun setup as long as u dont miss every shot

[fierce walrus]

what a shameless self plug

=)

[tardy ingot]

Im still interested on whether a full loadout of stuff like AR/sniper/bio/spear can clear r8e2 without using any exploits

[fierce walrus]

A full squad with that?

id assume a sufficiently determined and skilled team can prolly do that, although certainly not with ease

since there arent really any points that force you to have a diffrent tool/gun i dont think

or rather, places that are virtually impossible to pass without a certain gun or tool

like safe for ||kraken|| if you all ran shotguns

[errant dome]

all 4 bio? oof, im not gonna say its impossible but man is it gonna be hard af

[tardy ingot]

You might unironically just run out of ammo

[errant dome]

probably yea

[tardy ingot]

kraken is obviously free

But reactor and class 6 alarms are gonna be hell

[errant dome]

at the bare min youd defo need every single ammo before the first class 6

[tardy ingot]

no tools basically
So no foam, no sentry, no mines

[errant dome]

if you get good rng with c-foam tripmines and grenades and have several close

i could see it being doable

[fierce walrus]

Im guessing we count nuking the timer into oblivion as an exploit right

[errant dome]

ya thats an exploit

[fierce walrus]

hmmm
Prolly yeah comes down to good rng

i do actually wonder, is it possible to kite the final section of E2 in the last room?

[tardy ingot]

no kiting

[tardy ingot]

the snatchers aside, probably

[tardy ingot]

Theres not rly rng

you get stuff, it just depends if you can grab/find it

[fierce walrus]

ah

hm thats really tough then
I can defo see someone getting to the end and running out of ammo there

However i must ask
wouldnt the loadout be more misrable with short rifle instead of sniper

[errant dome]

Nah i meant like where it is, for example i had a recent run where we had 2 foam grenades in the class6 zone (one in D one in B), a c-foam tripmine and a grenade in the previous zone (the room with the stealth scan to the class 6 zone), and another tripmine very close (in the room of the stealth scan to the other zone) This was on top of all 4 of us having 2 foam grenades and 2 c-tripmines. All of it was super easy to grab with virtually no enemies on the way

[wet bear]

Ass spawn restart

[errant dome]

as long as someone stays in a, which we did xd

[wet bear]

At least enemies are pinged

[errant dome]

Now wether that much foam is needed or not im not sure, but it would certainly make it much more plausible

[tardy ingot]

Burst pistol + short rifle has been done already (with real tools and melee tho)

short rifle isnt a good weapon, but it has a ton of ammo/dmg to spare. So aside from shooting kraken sniper will often have far less dmg to put out

[tardy ingot]

so around 120% foam (compared to a foam launcher) in the absolute best case of 8 accessable foam consumables

If you are lucky and can permafoam i think you usually spend more than that

[wet bear]

8 nightmare strikers per full team reload

[tardy ingot]

For the first class 6

[tardy ingot]

huge wave clear

AR carry

[wet bear]

Second class 6 and reactor is a nightmare

Can we convert bio tracker mid game into nano swarm with enough tool refills so we get tool that damage enemies? xd

[tardy ingot]

at least kraken is a breeze (if you get there)

[wet bear]

Kraken with how bugged his flyers is really chill

But before

But no exploits still is bruh, I think with skip of second class 6 is doable maybe

Just train at kovak so you can kill more with sniper

[neon gust]

Can we please have a community patch for gtfo

just like l4d

https://tenor.com/view/me-atrapaste-es-cine-its-cinema-cinema-esto-es-cine-gif-12869046600151364058

[wet bear]

We have community mods as fixes so we don't need patch

https://tenor.com/view/stellaris-mauzymice-1984-you-all-now-want-to-play-gif-12216433995944651564

[neon gust]

its not as cool

sorry

[civic wave]

yes, patch the community

bring back the real ones

get rid of the posers and cringe

[wet bear]

We don't need patch because patches break game

[errant dome]

i think normally its around 160%ish yea

100% + a 3use tool

well if a team actually manages to clear with that setup huge props to them, cause even with good rng that shit would still be very hard

[sage pulsar]

not gameplay but

why do russians use a separate server?

[civic wave]

probably so they can speak their native language with other native language speakers

and maybe escape the terrorist organisation known as the LGBTQ+ movement

[sage pulsar]

we have german and cantonese lfg in here from memory, is it a bigger problem for them?

[tiny wyvern]

Most of them enjoy playing with people who speak their language more, usually only one friend speak english and they always have to translate
From experience anyways
That and half of them play this drunk
I don't know why

[tardy ingot]

people from all nationalities play on here
but theres a german, australian (etc etc) server aswell

for russian it seems to rly be just comfort with their own language and potentially not being comfortable speaking english as much

[tiny wyvern]

Like half the time I go into a pub with Russian people they're absolutely wasted

[sage pulsar]

drunk = fun

[tardy ingot]

nah they just seem like it :^ ) @wet bear would know

[tiny wyvern]

No they are actually drunk by their own admission
And ditches me mid game

Although I doubt their gameplay would be much better considering that they were new

The alcohol didn't help

[sage pulsar]

was it something besides rundown 1

[wet bear]

I don't drink at all

I know some GTFO players that drink while playing but that's mostly for fun like drinking for every death etc

Although russians here on official server are more ass imho

Just look at them 🤓

[wet bear]

Yes I'm shy and uncomfortable especially with unpolite Europeans

[topaz anvil]

I hate you specifically >:)

[silent delta]

I've played with people who got stoned before playing

Some of them were great, some of them made the game unplayable

[sweet wigeon]

there is a door to zone 76 in the tutorial, how can we get in there? I did a short search on the internet but couldnt find it

[digital mural]

you cant open that door

[sweet wigeon]

not now or never?

[digital mural]

never

unless you use cheats

https://youtu.be/thb2Po6_52M

[topaz snow]

im kinda new to this game and me and my friend find the game so hard as a 2 player team, is this normal? haha

like we tried this one level like 20 times and still cant pass it

[digital mural]

are you guys running true duo? or with bots?

[topaz snow]

with bots

like am i fr this bad

[digital mural]

yeah this game is hard

what level is it

[topaz snow]

im logging on to check

[digital mural]

this game needs a lot of dedication and time

a lot

easily as a casual/newbie player some missions can take up to 2 hours

[topaz snow]

its literally r1c2

like the beginning

[digital mural]

if you want more people you can use the LFG system in the server

.t lfg

[uneven gulch]

Hello! If you are unaware, we have Looking For Group (LFG) channels to help users group up and play the game. They are located here: #lfg-north-america / #lfg-latin-america / #lfg-eastern-europe / #lfg-western-europe / #lfg-asia / #lfg-oceania / #lfg-africa / #lfg-beginners / #lfg-middle-east.

If you are unsure of how to create or join a lobby, please see the instructions here: #how-to-matchmake.

[topaz snow]

yeah i was just seeing if ppl find this game as hard as we do

[digital mural]

yes

they do

everyone did

and it will just keep getting worse and worse

[ocean spindle]

if not u can always ask for advice too

if u need help on some alarm n stuff

[civic wave]

r1c2 is kinda brutal with the full charger alarms and it doesn't have the most medipacks either

[topaz snow]

the last alarm is so hard haha

[ocean spindle]

what tools u running?

:3

[topaz snow]

anything and everything rly

mainly the 50 cal pistol and the burst submachine gun

[digital mural]

What guns do the bots have?

[topaz snow]

van aukan and buckland

[ocean spindle]

i meant tools as in sentries or mines ksks

also u can just say the gun not the name

cuz theres like 4 bucklands

[digital mural]

I recommend changing the shotgun for a machinegun

[ocean spindle]

and 2 van aukens

[digital mural]

Also don't use the manufacturer names

We have like 4 bucklands

4 drekkers

Etc etc

[ocean spindle]

:3 buckland when chokemod pump combat sawed off

[digital mural]

I love the drekker

[keen seal]

del p1?

[digital mural]

The drekker

[keen seal]

you got me fucked up

[ocean spindle]

the drekker

[keen seal]

only one I remember is pr

[digital mural]

The drekker (scattergun)

[keen seal]

augh

[topaz snow]

is the scattergun good?

[ocean spindle]

its pretty pogchamp

is the better sniper

[keen seal]

busted for bosses, good for giants

[ocean spindle]

is a shotgun that oneshot like everything

[keen seal]

handheld nuke

[topaz snow]

so its a chad

[ocean spindle]

it be

at least most missions

as always it depends cuz in stuff like some reactors

[tardy ingot]

Basically anything is „the better sniper“

Scattergun is a nuke

[ocean spindle]

u actually kinda want that range

[tardy ingot]

Tuho based

[ocean spindle]

listen
its
the closets thing

i guess

its a natural comparison leave me alone

:[

[tardy ingot]

But then
Outta nowhere

Hel rifle/burst cannon

[ocean spindle]

yes thats why i

say

not scattergun

[tardy ingot]

Kek

in theory it fits tho ye
If scattergun wasnt like 8 times as good

[ocean spindle]

well uh nerf it :3 cmon u surely can hack gtfo

and 10c

and nerf it

[digital mural]

We need another sniper nerf

[tardy ingot]

Many people struggle in this game
But lots of it is knowledge based, especially early on

I generally recommend trying to figure out stuff yourself.
But theres a lot of nifty community guides and such

For stealth, alarms, what guns are good vs what etc etc
levels themselves even (wouldnt recommend checking those out immediatly tho)

[topaz snow]

ok, thats comforting

ty

[wet bear]

Just kill everyone and everything and complete game

[ocean spindle]

:O

[cobalt tundra]

hello

[ocean spindle]

helloooo

[harsh wadi]

whats the meta primary rn

?

[topaz anvil]

autopistol

[harsh wadi]

okay ty

[topaz anvil]

I'm kidding D:

[harsh wadi]

oh...

[errant dome]

hel revo-hel shotgun-sawed off-carbine

[topaz anvil]

it's hel revo most likely

[errant dome]

jokes aside hel autopistol is not bad tbh

[topaz anvil]

bread

[harsh wadi]

i using hel revo

:D

tyvm!

[errant dome]

any weapon with hel in the name is at bare min good, most likely great

[digital mural]

Slug shotgun

[harsh wadi]

whats the hardest gtfo level?

[minor fractal]

R8E2

Hardest individual section/encounter is probably R8D2 Secondary's class IX.

[upper ginkgo]

I honestly think a person is gonna have more attempts on r2e1 than r8e2

cause r2e1 is such a early wall

and if you've reached r8e2, you're probably half decent at the game

[tardy ingot]

Id disagree on r8d2sec being the hardest encounter/section if you consider going for the easiest possible (non exploit obviously) path

Sec alone class 5 is a bit of a copout obviously, but the class 7 is the easiest way to do the whole level and makes secondary very very managable

If class 9 were forced id agree, but as it stands if you advocate for class 9 (more fun challenge and makes main fog free again) then you could argue for other sections done in their hardest way

[tardy ingot]

Thats considering how hard it is to someone generally getting to that level

But this would also push R1A1 and R1C1 to some of the hardest levels, so its not a great metric

[ocean spindle]

i mean it said the hardest section so obv the VII is easier but- they taking the hardest option cuz it is the hardest option

[minor fractal]

That's why I said hardest encounter/section. If you do that section, it's the hardest in the game.

[ocean spindle]

its like saying the beginnings easy cuz u can lower the alarm- yes but we talking difficulty

[minor fractal]

Otherwise, R8D2 might just be hardest level in general.

But class 7 makes it easy.

[tardy ingot]

its just a tad wonky cuz theres surely ways you can make some parts in levels harder through strats that arent optimal

R8D2sec class 9 is def the hardest intended section tho

[tardy ingot]

certainly would rank it around some E tiers

[ocean spindle]

so glads my first clear was with that aha hahaha pain

[tardy ingot]

And difficulty you can go by easiest (optimal) or force hardest

If you go optimal its what many already do, its how we mostly rank stuff

Hardest pushes in lotsa weird things

In a way its a similar discussion to r5e1 being harder than r4e1 due to cell skip, when cell skip is clearly not the optimal way to play r5e1 (for a 100% safe clear)

[tardy ingot]

Class 9 is a lot more fun tbh

[minor fractal]

Even w/ unintneded routes, I'm not sure that are that many sections which are genuinely harder.

Class XII is more a resource issue.

Double class X on R7D1 is a resource/kiting issue.

and is multiple individual sections

Brazil skip is spread throughout lots of different sections.

[tardy ingot]

depends on how legit you want them to be

We can go from r4c3sec with ovl active to brazil skip reactor to lots of r8e2 bs (timerless or reactor and kraken at the same time)

[tardy ingot]

yea
Also rly boring ngl

very likely the hardest intended thing you can do tho

[minor fractal]

R4C3 Overload first is very much not that hard.

R8E2 BS depends.

The spawning jank makes it hard to judge.

[tardy ingot]

it was a showcase of smth prob not intended thats more on the tame side
That was the point yes

[past mesa]

No time terminal on r8e2…..

[tardy ingot]

Timerless

where is the hardest part for it tho

prob 2nd stealth scan going into class 6?

[past mesa]

The entire thing

Is fucked

[carmine grotto]

In the middle of a R6D1 run. At the Kracken fight we had 2 of them spawn after the first tumor burst? Any idea how this happened?

[minor fractal]

Not the class 6?

And we haven't even seen to any deeper part

All of which are probably harder until Kraken

[frail heart]

Only possible way is to use trap scan tbh

Even if you get kraken to spawn, nightmare surge during kraken with spawns of top of you is most likely impossible

[minor fractal]

They would not spawn on top of you.

You still don't do it because it's so many alarms, but you didn't set up your cconsole test correctly.

Also, that's exclusively reactor waves that act that way.

Reactor wave stuck room is in second stealth scan room, rather than Kraken.

[frail heart]

Yeah I never tested surge

Would be pretty hard still

[summer shard]

what is the spawncap in this game

someone PLEASSEEEE

[twin terrace]

30

[neon gust]

150

[summer shard]

thanks my carrryyyyyy

[native sun]

25 points.

Most enemies when spawned cost one point, so generally just 25 enemies. Some enemies, like Giants, often cost 2 points when spawned, so you'd only need 12 of them (13 to be safe).

Spawn cost isn't tied to the enemy variant itself, but rather just the settings used when it is spawned, so Giants don't always cost 2 points and sometimes Strikers don't cost 1 point (though this is rare).

Sometimes alarms will have a minimum number of points that they're allowed to spend when spawning, in which case you'll need fewer than 25 points to block spawns. Though be wary if you start a new alarm (or otherwise introduce a different method for enemies to spawn) which has a different minimum, since those might be able to sneakily spawn.

[tardy ingot]

A bit late

But plain desync. Someone had a connection issue when it was spawned in

We had this before aswell

[loud lantern]

Hi! I'm very new here and have some questions.

I bought GTFO just after its official launch in 2021, but only recently I managed to find a group to play with. Earlier the people I wanted to play with were disouraged by the rundowns being a timed thing and them being unable to actually experience the first rundowns ever again. But now that we have the ://ALT rundowns available, we started playing and having a blast.

1. How do the ALT versions of rundowns compare to the original rundowns? Do we miss anything? Did something change? Are those just polished up versions of the original rundowns?

2. In many places I keep finding information on weapons being restricted to particular rundowns, but now it seems to have been changed, so that every weapon and tool is available in every rundown. When did that change happen? I can't seem to find it in the previous patch notes. What is the community's view on that change? Does it significantly change the game? Does it make it easier? Is there any place, where I can find information on what weapons were originally intended for specific rundowns and is that something worth going for, if I want to have a kind of authentic experience?

3. I found some mentions of a dodge system in the game in the patch notes, and no information on it being ultimately removed, but still the game doesn't seem to have it. What's up with that?

4. Are there any important information I'm missing when playing the game only after it being finished, and not experiencing it over the course of the development?

5. Any other vague and non-spoiler advice on how to enjoy the game? So far we completed almost all of R1. We will do our first attempt at R1D1, when we find the time.

[civic wave]

1. Generally they're a touch easier (stronger weapons and tools, and some slight level nerfs) and miss the ambiance of the originals because the game was different back then

2. Happened with the introduction of ALT rundowns, so whenever ALT R1 released

3. If you sprint + move sideways or backwards you get a little burst of momentum, but you need to be careful using it because it uses up a lot of stamina (if you use too much you'll start sprinting slower and charging your melee slower)

4. Nothing particular

5. If you're getting walled off by a level feel free to leave it and go to the next rundown (or replay previous levels) instead of investing 2 months in a single level only

[tardy ingot]

^ basically all those

Id partially disagree with 1. tho

The levels overall are either basicaly the same or have some buffs/nerfs.
The guns/tools are certainly (mostly) better tho than in OG rundowns

[loud lantern]

Thank you! Can you elaborate on the weapons part?

What was the community's reaction to unlocking all the weapons for all rundowns? Does it make a huge difference in difficulty? Are some weapons overpowered for some particular rundowns?

Also is there a place, where I can find a list of weapons, that were originally intended for particular rundowns? Is sticking to the intended guns worth it for authentic, close to the original experience?

[native sun]

I've yet to see anyone care about using the weapons 'intended' for the rundown, so if you want to care about it then feel free, but I don't think it's much of a community sentiment

Levels rarely feel like they were designed around only specific weapons being available, so I don't think there's too much lost playing with all weapons available.

The only level that comes to mind is R7E1, since original R7 had like MG as its 'best' waveclear option, but now there are significantly better options available.

I think if you want a list of which weapons for which rundown then your best bet is reading #patch-notes and trying to piece it together. Or find a video from each rundown and hope they open the weapon selection.
Wiki has which weapons got added in which rundown, so you'd just need to piece together if things were removed.

[safe cradle]

Hard to answer about the weapons also because some got massively changed, which changed the balance more than adding a previously "rundown limited" weapon did.

I'd just not care about using rundown limited weapons for that reason too

Let me make an example, Burst Cannon

OG R4 BC had (among other things) 5 shot bursts (unless you canceled the burst but that's no longer always possible), new one has 3-shot bursts.

[loud lantern]

From what you're telling me, so much has changed over time, that it's not worth it, since the weapons themselves are changed to the point, where this elusive "pure" experience is not possible to achieve.

I'll just stop worrying about it and just enjoy the game as it is right now.

[safe cradle]

Or Sniper that got nerfed to the ground when R8 released

[native sun]

Das a good approach IMO

[loud lantern]

Thank you for you replies. That explains everything for me, I think. Can't wait to play more with my team.

[tardy ingot]

Still better than og sniper early on sadly

[lone mortar]

Hes so cute

Adorable replies

[lone mortar]

Where stream?

[neon gust]

Didnt they tell you???? you can only enjoy GTFO when the rundowns where limited and you were fomo yojr enjoyment will.be limited by the fact the level looks slightly different to the original!

That room got 1 more sleeper in it and a random terminal location!!!!

You will not be able to enjoy GTFO anymore

Sorry sir

Please refund

[frail heart]

Facts!

[soft crater]

Where 5 shot burst cannon..

Where 3 mag low ammo sniper.

Where 0.1 charge up helgun

[loud lantern]

Look, I get the irony and I get how my questions might sound. But the truth is, that I am highly susceptible to FOMO, so the way that rundowns worked previously actually did have some charm in my opinion. But of course ultimately I am really glad, that they went back on that idea, and gave us access to previous rundowns in the form of the ://ALT versions, because now me and my freinds actually can experience them. I just wanted to know what are the differences. If it's just some minor changes, then awesome! But the changes might have been much bigger.

So no - I won't be refunding a game I'm really enjoying right now. I just wanted to know how the development went, and what better place to ask, then a GTFO Discord, where there are probably many fans that were there to experience those changes, and can tell me the story.

[hard nexus]

Technically without mods there is fomo

[soft crater]

Rundown specifics are no longer a thing. Balance changes

[hard nexus]

The skins we got for og r6

[soft crater]

Downpatching =/= Modded

[hard nexus]

Wdym

Isn't there unlock all cosmetics mod

[tiny wyvern]

...He's joking

Please tell me you know that

[soft crater]

There is. I'm saying playing og rundowns currently is just downpatching the game

[digital mural]

no way bro said fomo had some charm

[soft crater]

There are recreations in the modded. But it isn't the same as og 1 to 1

[hard nexus]

Oh you can downpatch og r6 and get lugubrious?

[loud lantern]

I do. Hence the "I get the irony" part. But I still felt the need to explain myself.

[soft crater]

This I cannot confirm.

[hard nexus]

Yea that's what I meant

By fomo

[soft crater]

I haven't checked or heard of it

[hard nexus]

If possible then nvm

[digital mural]

cosmetics mod looking at your message

[soft crater]

Imean. Not many ppl use it anyhow. That's a default early access palette. The one ppl mostly complain about is the limited time ones and OG R6 cosmetics

Though you miss out on 2 cosmetic pieces if you've collected everything possible.

Me myself am missing 2 torso pieces

[loud lantern]

But it did! When we try to look at the decision in a vacuum and forget, that people have adult lives and resposibilities, which might prevent them from experiencing a rundown because of time contraints, then rundowns being temporary did add a lot of tension in a way. I like and dislike the idea at the same time.
But as I've said - ultimately I am really glad, that we have ALT rundowns now.

[soft crater]

There are mods for OG r3-r6 music

Not perfect but they are there.

[hard nexus]

Downpatch double damage flyers of course

[soft crater]

Iirc there was technical difficulties getting og r1-r2 music

[digital mural]

💀

fuck no

[hard nexus]

Skissue

[loud lantern]

When you're saying it was balancing, what do you mean? Was the whole game rebalanced to accomodate it having the whole weapon arsenal available for all rundowns?

[past mesa]

R7e1 was made without us having access to insane pen guns

Now a few sections of it are very easy

Because you can take hel gun into it

[topaz anvil]

just nerf yourself and play as intended 😎

[digital mural]

short rifle 😎

[topaz anvil]

I love my short rifle macros

[loud lantern]

So what you're saying is that there are some expeditions that got easier with all weapons being available. Should I avoid some guns, to make my life miserable in GTFO, just as it was originally intended, or is the advantage given by the guns not as big?

Funny that you're mentioning the short rifle, because it became one of my favourites lately. Is it considered too strong? Too weak?

[frail heart]

ITS ASS

[topaz anvil]

not as ass as you >:)

[soft crater]

Short rifle is relatively bad. It has 0.5x to stagger

But dmg comparable to pistol/rifle per shot iirc.

Outside of being able to macro fire it because it's fire rate is extremely fast. But this will also burn your ammo reserves

[frail heart]

no sub 16?

[topaz anvil]

[frail heart]

Only good thing about it is its ammo efficiency

I think burst pistol is worse tbh

[tiny wyvern]

Technically

[civic wave]

short rifle is a fairly underwhelming weapon because it simply does what a good main weapon does with a larger mag size, you can make it work but it doesn't give you fantastic output or a fill a great niche

funnily enough think i'd still prefer running short rifle over either machine gun

[soft crater]

Unironically I've been seeing Rifle/Shortrifle builds in some newbie streams the last week or so

[tiny wyvern]

Short rifle isn't too bad at the beginning when you don't have specials on you too often

So is burst pistol and slug shotgun

[soft crater]

Me when I take burst pistol.
"I could've just taken Double tap rifle"

[tiny wyvern]

Once things get serious short rifle hangs on with macro
Slug can technically perform well against some specials
And burst pistol goes out of the window

[tiny wyvern]

Ye

[past mesa]

Slug……

[soft crater]

The issue is really. You shouldn't have to macro it.

[tiny wyvern]

Technically
I said technically

In reality missing a shot with it is horrible

And sawed off is just better most of the time

Most of the pistols (ignore the revolvers they're pretending to be pistols) are strange

They're fun
Just not that gud

[civic wave]

pistol is a fine gun

high cal also good but i always miss half of each magazine lmao i can't hold waves anymore

[soft crater]

I've been using high cal more lately in pubs

Fun gun for charger one taps

[tiny wyvern]

Then hel pp and machine p is just... well, if you're in sawed off range you do decent damage

Otherwise you pretend to crowd clear

[soft crater]

Seeing newbies mag dump hel pp

[tiny wyvern]

Into giant
without backshots

[soft crater]

Makes me cringe a bit

[tiny wyvern]

Machine pistol can technically do that but it needs occi or back multi for it to be good

And you lose your crowd clear with hel pp so you can't really...

[soft crater]

Imean. Quite a few mains can kill or leave a giant low hp magdump to back

[civic wave]

only reason i don't do it is because ow ouch my wrist

[tiny wyvern]

Ye and with less effort

You don't need to sniff a giant with most of them

[tardy ingot]

@tiny wyvern

• Macro short rifle isnt actually a good thing

• hel pp is good, albeit niche
  Its also not awful crowd clear

[digital mural]

whoever voted veruta please leave the server

[tardy ingot]

Short rifle player when they need to shoot 3 times to do as much as 1 veruta bullet to stagger

[upper ginkgo]

I've already blocked everyone who voted MG on the poll

[civic wave]

what if i'm not trying to stagger

[tardy ingot]

if you are trying to kill then you are either way too good at the game already and it doesnt rly matter

or bad

not taking dmg is the basis to not dying and dealing more dmg

[civic furnace]

hi

[civic wave]

even with my pittance of a click speed short rifle is not all that bad at killing, but then again i do have experience

[tardy ingot]

veruta for general gameplay is a trillion times simpler to get value out of

Note, not insane value. The issue the gun has still exist.

But like 90% of all players will hard outperform with veruta over short rifle

[upper ginkgo]

idk I think it's telling if I can solo r4e1 reactor with burst pistol short rifle and not burst pistol veruta

[tardy ingot]

no look at a player who cant solo hold with meta loadouts

They let 3 strikers pass and lick vs 0 on veruta.

This snowballs

[tiny wyvern]

I suppose ease of use is a factor

[tardy ingot]

This just isnt a good basis

[upper ginkgo]

my POV is law

[civic wave]

the question for optimisation in pubs is

which one between the 2 guns will leave me with more ammo for myself - as in which one is more ammo hungry and eats into the team's ammo count more so you can bully the pubs away from the gun

[tardy ingot]

Ah ok noted
Scattergun worst gun in the game for pubs (if bad)

[digital mural]

what if
we just dont run any of those guns

[tardy ingot]

shoot permanently, no value
Lots of ammo gone

[digital mural]

they both suck

problem solved

[upper ginkgo]

nah short rifle is cracked

people sleep on it

[civic wave]

there at least seems to be some kind of implicit understanding from players that scattergun deletes big things

[civic furnace]

hi

[civic wave]

so they run up and shoot it

[civic wave]

hi girly

[civic furnace]

hai goat pookie :3

[tardy ingot]

i also dont like basing stuff on pubs

[upper ginkgo]

I put on the balloon boy mask, why aren't you going away

[tardy ingot]

average players arent quite pubs

[past mesa]

Guys

[tardy ingot]

pubs are… weird

[civic furnace]

okay i dont exist ig

[civic wave]

me neither

thank god for that

[past mesa]

Guys( gender neutral)

[civic furnace]

WHAT DID I DO

[tardy ingot]

Animals and plants are included in guys (terminology smh

[past mesa]

Ngl

Guys doesn’t mean men

[civic furnace]

it was not a serious point girl

Im just bored

grrr

[civic wave]

now if i told you i saw a bunch of guys outside and they were being noisy, what mental image does that conjure

[tardy ingot]

it was entirely serious
Scientifically proven

[civic wave]

i would suggest that the only mental image people get is one of an all boys group

[tardy ingot]

A bunch of guys =/= calling a group as „guys“

[past mesa]

Nope

You literally don’t have my brain

[civic wave]

jish dear no-one knows how your brain works

[past mesa]

Also you can do the same thing with most people just by saying there is a group of loud folks outside my home

[digital mural]

[past mesa]

Almost like a masculine understanding is a default

[tardy ingot]

id honestly translate „guys“ as „leudde“ (german slang for „leute“ which is roughly „people“)

[past mesa]

guys and bitch

how do we feel about current deadlock meta

[tardy ingot]

moba smh

[civic wave]

oh ok so im not allowed into the conversation then, i see how it is

[past mesa]

No your the bitch

[civic wave]

then what is rose

[past mesa]

Not allowed

[civic wave]

idk that seems kinda sexist

[past mesa]

Tru

ngl goat your gonna make me vote conservative

[civic wave]

i mean like where do i tie into this all with being femme nb

[civic wave]

now that's just rude

[upper ginkgo]

jish be 30% more toxic

slide them down the alignment chart

[digital mural]

just post GTFlOss when you see jish

[civic furnace]

bad game

overwatch but 3rd person xd

[past mesa]

You weren’t allowed to interact

[past mesa]

.

[past mesa]

Ngl

I am gonna be come like 60% more toxic rn

[strange rover]

how much of a differnce does the 100% accuracy option of the better bots mod realistically do?

[tiny wyvern]

Do you know how many bullets turrets miss

[past mesa]

You can clear any e tier without shooting

[tiny wyvern]

imagine three turrets that don't miss

At all

It's busted if you can do objectives

[strange rover]

saw a video of someone doing that in r2, does it actually apply to r4 , r5 and r8 as well since those are way harder

[past mesa]

Yeah

Easily there is no issue

[strange rover]

damm thats crazy

[minor fractal]

You can walk into 4 mom zone

and just clear

The bots just kill all of the births, hold reactor waves, and kill moms

[tiny wyvern]

All you need to do is do objectives for them

[strange rover]

currently playing better bots since I only have one premate ( and normal bots are just no ) and we were thinking about using it for some e tier completions but ig its a bit overkill then?

[minor fractal]

I mean, it's midly funny if you want to give all bots DTR and BC, and just try to kill everything w/ them.

Only thing they struggle w/ is tanks

[strange rover]

makes sense

[green bronze]

nah i think its more like dota but 3rd person shootsr

[hardy grotto]

Overwatch but 3rd person is a CRAZY statement

[civic wave]

what happened to marvel rivals again

[hardy grotto]

Comes out in December iirc

[civic wave]

ah so it was just early access/beta tests, was wondering why I'd not heard about it for a while

[upper ginkgo]

THIS GAME WILL KILL OVERWATCH

[civic wave]

Fortnite will kill overwatch
And so will apex
and realm royale
and project a
and...

[hardy grotto]

Overwatch killed itself

didn’t need any other game to do it

[past mesa]

I still consume the lovely overwatch content

who knew mei was hung

[hardy grotto]

you didn’t read the lore books

[green bronze]

hello

i will skip school to play r4e1 with you

please join

[upper ginkgo]

please dont

[green bronze]

FUCK OFF

you traitor

[upper ginkgo]

sorry...

[civic wave]

simon what were you doing with zed earlier

[upper ginkgo]

r4e1 date night

[green bronze]

yeah

we failed

died at last code

it was fun

(not)

[hardy grotto]

don’t cursing please

[civic wave]

did you fail the hold simon

[green bronze]

nah

zed failed

[civic wave]

all my wave 6 holds were awful, i should keep to code searching i think

[green bronze]

@upper ginkgo You deserve more than this as a traitor!

bro said he was keeping his duo virginity

for fucking who

[errant dome]

with hybrids in the mix it feels super hard 2 do solo tbh

[green bronze]

you traitor

ez

just aim

[errant dome]

also why are u skipping school smh

[green bronze]

left click

no i was joking

[errant dome]

but what if my aim sucks

[green bronze]

then dont be suck

[errant dome]

fair, ive just seen people say it and then actually do it so i no longer trust if its a joke or not

[errant dome]

gimme ur hands then

my hands suck

i cant unsuck my hands

[green bronze]

chop your hands off

[civic wave]

i have way too many women in my life so i think i'm disqualified

[green bronze]

replace it with a mechanical hands

oh shit wrong reply

[green bronze]

fuck Voxy

[errant dome]

gimme mechanical hands and ill do it

[green bronze]

“I don’t want you having fun without me! Or holding hands with some other girl—just me! I want you to be with me! I wanted to take you to an R4E1! I wanted to be there while you were smiling and having fun! That’s what I wanted! My head hurts so much because I’ve been thinking about you nonstop and losing my mind and…I was waiting for you to call! Why don’t you ever call me or start a conversation? Why does it always have to be me? Don’t you…don’t you care about me even a little? Nothing? Not even a bit? Just friends? Just regular friends? I don’t want to be regular friends—just one step above that! That’s all I want… Voxy, what do you want me to do? Well? Voxy, are you listening? Really listen. How do you feel when you hear my voice? Do you feel something? I want you to feel something, anything, even just comfort. That’s what I want. Is that so wrong, Voxy?! Because it’s you! You’re the one I want! I don’t want anyone else or need anyone else—I only need you. Is it really so selfish to want one measly step? Just one! I don’t care about anyone else—I don’t want them around—so why do you? Just come find me and be with me and stay with me and don’t leave! I don’t want anyone being with you except me. I want to be there with you, so just let me! Who even is she? I don’t know her. I don’t want you to turn into someone I don’t know! I want to know everything about you; I don’t want you to keep anything from me. I hate not knowing because it hurts! It hurts so much, Voxy… I’d ask you to hang out, but I wanted to take you to an R4E1 I wanted to go with you, but you went with her! Are you hanging out with her? Where are you right now? Are you with her, Voxy? Voxy, are you listening? It’s like I’ve been talking to a brick wall this whole time. Normally you talk a lot more. Why? What’s different? Am I different? Yeah, I must be. I can tell. But I want to know…I want to know about you so bad, it’s messing me up.

[errant dome]

just loan me 1 million dollars in my paypal account to buy some thx

[silent delta]

opens gtfo-related-questions
takes 200 psychic damage

[errant dome]

xD

[upper ginkgo]

you can thank me

[errant dome]

voxy rizz is too powerful

[civic wave]

not at that stage yet

[green bronze]

i hope i could save enough money to come to his house before he dies from asphyxiation

[soft crater]

Voxy rizz

But who is going rizz voxy

[green bronze]

yeah i rizzed him

[upper ginkgo]

can yall diversify your loadouts when you upload gameplay on twitch or youtube

like where's the good burst pistol gameplay

[green bronze]

there are none

you dumbass

[upper ginkgo]

do I gotta do it myself

[green bronze]

yeah good luck

[upper ginkgo]

good save simon

almost got moderated

[green bronze]

https://mangadex.org/title/5b93fa0f-0640-49b8-974e-954b9959929b/shoujo-shuumatsu-ryokou?tab=art

this shit is lit

[sturdy glen]

no

[hardy grotto]

no

[upper ginkgo]

sorry simon

chat says you're wrong

[upper ginkgo]

gonna have to report you to mod mail now for sending me death threats

[green bronze]

no

[upper ginkgo]

you'll be fine, you got like 3 other alts primed and ready

[green bronze]

fuck you

[upper ginkgo]

i may reconsider

for a slice of good machinegun gameplay

[green bronze]

what do you want me to do

bitch

[hardy grotto]

solo r8e2 with mg

No doorbug

[green bronze]

yeah i will just either cap fos

fps

[upper ginkgo]

upload vod so we can do p*b review

[green bronze]

or lag out my comp

ezpz

[upper ginkgo]

we starving for content

[green bronze]

sure

[upper ginkgo]

zomg thanks bestie !@

[green bronze]

yeah fuck you

i really cant stop thinking about fucking you

[hardy grotto]

LOL

[upper ginkgo]

homie really diggin his own grave

[past mesa]

Wow

[green bronze]

sorry

school got me insane

i blame bcit

[past mesa]

You probs need to talk to therapist do you can get rid of the stalker streak

[green bronze]

im just so mad at voxy

he didnt want to duo r4e1 with me

could you do it with me

[hardy grotto]

Vox and I duoed it a while back actually

It was pretty easy

I can see why he doesn’t wanna do it again

[green bronze]

i believe you deserve a brutal death vozy

i cant believe it

fuck you

[upper ginkgo]

umm thanks

[prime musk]

yeah because i put in code and then got overwhelmed because holding in reactor is difficult af
whenever i just had to hold i was chilling

i will stand by that if you had backtracked to put in that code, even though it wouldve wasted time we would have been fine

we weren't running out of ammo med or tool shrug

[prime musk]

my skill issue for killing too slowly to get downtime between waves but i think i communicated quite clearly that i didn't think i could input code safely

[civic wave]

being in reactor waves spawn closer and take less time to get to you, so that's why there's little downtime

it's also why getting stuck holding in reactor without sawed off or hel shotgun or some other very strong waveclear gun can spell your doom rather easily

[prime musk]

i was holding in corridor

but

when i input code

no downtime, enemies get close, have to defend reactor

[solemn meadow]

I have a question about targeting, when dudes spawn they seem to "lock on" to a specific player and target only them.
I was wondering if there is any way to make sure enemies target you, as in something preemptive.
The only ways I've found to get them to re target are:
1.) hitting them gun or melee
2.) getting in knifing range regardless of melee weapon
3.) shooting near the enemy will sometimes cause them to target you

[civic wave]

dealing damage is the most reliable way to change enemy aggro, past that if you're the only player in line of sight of the enemy they'll often re-aggro onto you but it doesn't happen 100% of the tjme

[ocean spindle]

they kinda just aggro onto whoever if not dealt damage rlly

u can see all kinds of situations where they run past u to get someone else

[pure falcon]

What’s up with the screen going black

It just covers half of my screen

[prime musk]

if it only covers half you're lucky (in my experience it usually covers the entire screen)

[pure falcon]

What is it tho?

[ocean spindle]

if its like a square or a liquid- its void bug, its an issue with the liquid render and it should go away in a min or so

u can also press O to see the screen without the effect

[pure falcon]

Ok thank you

[grizzled patrol]

Love the funky caleidoscope Vision effect that it can give to you

[last crypt]

hi i was hoping someone would know how to clear r7d2, me and my group of friends are struggling at the door where you put the memory stick in

we get swarmed by enemies and dont know what we're doing or what we're looking for, videos on youtube are also unclear

[grizzled patrol]

You mean where to find the flash Drive?

Its in one of the orange Containers inside of the Scout zone

You either pull or Sneak, Up to you

[last crypt]

yea so we get the flash drive, and we open that door

but what do you after that

[grizzled patrol]

You Open the blood door, find the terminal inside of it. It is Password locked, but says in what Zone you can find it in. You Open that Zone, find the terminal with the Password on it, use the Password on the terminal and then proceed

[last crypt]

we have no problem getting the flash drive

[rotund linden]

problem is we get swarmed from behind eventually

how to fast clear the room

since there are shadow scouts and other charger scouts

[grizzled patrol]

3 people hold one searches

[rotund linden]

just piss them off?

[last crypt]

gotcha

the 1 that searches goes silent?

[digital mural]

My Best way to clear it was

At the first door

2 people drop their sentries in the long hall

Then bio tracker guy and someone else holds

And the other player goes to assist the code hunt guy

They both clear the areas

Or some of them

[last crypt]

right now we are running 1 bio tracker, 1 cfoam for the 5 charger scouts, 1 mine deployer for the angry door and 1 burst

[digital mural]

Then the 2nd guy helping get codes goes to the people defending

[digital mural]

Cfoam is trash

Dont run it there

2 burst 1 sniper sentry

[grizzled patrol]

Terminal is Close to the entrance so its Not that hard. If its the charger Zone Just shoot the First 2 rooms. With the Scout zone Just shoot the scout

[digital mural]

1 biotracker

[green bronze]

just bring 1 hel gun

ezpz

[grizzled patrol]

3 Shotgun sentries

[digital mural]

@last crypt after they get code wait until the code guy opens the door

Then move

[green bronze]

can someone kill Antares

[digital mural]

Do the same thing

The 2nd code hunt area has a lot of big strong enemies

So be extremely careful in there

[green bronze]

you mean cell hunt

[last crypt]

so the room with the 5 charger scouts, just fuck it and piss em off?

[green bronze]

[digital mural]

Yeah lol

Sowy

[green bronze]

stop spreading misinfo !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

jj

jk

[digital mural]

:(

[green bronze]

wanna do r4e1 in 2hours

[digital mural]

Nah

[digital mural]

Also whats your loadout

[last crypt]

im going carbine sniper\

[frail heart]

[digital mural]

Sniper is trash

Actual trash

Grab it and throw it away

[last crypt]

shi mb g

tf do i use, i like that shi

[rotund linden]

full shotgun

[digital mural]

Burst cannon, hel rifle, hel gun

[rotund linden]

?

[digital mural]

Shotgun are meh in that level

[frail heart]

hel rifle

[digital mural]

You want to shoot the enemies BEFORE they get close to you

[last crypt]

hel rifle? i gotta charge that shi

[digital mural]

Its like .3 seconds

You barely notice it

[frail heart]

its top 3 specials in the game

[digital mural]

💀

Same with hel gun

[last crypt]

shi i see

what about mains tho

[frail heart]

time between shots on sniper is longer than that shit

[last crypt]

gotcha

[frail heart]

hel revolver is good

sawed off

[tardy ingot]

Dont hold in the long hallway
It fucks with the spawns in a bad way

[rotund linden]

we cant see the shadow enemies tho

[last crypt]

so 4 ppl running all hel weapons, is that what im getting at

[digital mural]

No?

It worked for me

[frail heart]

ok im done talking its hard to talk and eat

[rotund linden]

mb bro u eat da food

[tardy ingot]

You can also just stealth around them quite commonly

Or learn how to melee them with 2 hammers in stealth

[digital mural]

Nah just shoot

It's better

[green bronze]

can someone mention “silent shot”

🤓

[tardy ingot]

0.1

[digital mural]

Damn

It feels longer for some reason

[rotund linden]

alr we gonna try gunsblazing

[tardy ingot]

Bio tracker

Also since you only need to open one side for the password you will only see shadows about 50% of the time

[tardy ingot]

It can work
But its not recommended lol

[digital mural]

In my run the biotracker held with the defender

[tardy ingot]

Fuck offü

[digital mural]

The code hunt run fucking PDW

It was a really smooth run

[green bronze]

why a german letter

[errant dome]

i mean u only need 2 pull 1st room if its shadow zone

not an issue unless there is a scout there

[tardy ingot]

tbf
For the shadow zone
Just pull the first room

Bio tracker is gonna be defending in the room with all the ressources (not the long hallway) anyway preferably and can then ping there

[plain snow]

you can run 3 sentries and hold the entry door chokes for the constant wave spawns, you can split confortably 2/2 or even let 1 person defend with that

[digital mural]

I highly recommend doing 2/2 split tbh

[tardy ingot]

1 person defending isnt advised tho

2/2 is generally the fastest way to go about stuff, but you might need to have 3 or even 4 defending for certain points

[tardy ingot]

Scout actually doesnt even matter

It wont make anything harder

[digital mural]

After You are done clearing the first or couple first areas with the code hunt guy
Do 3/1

[plain snow]

it's not advised but it's not like it's the worst either for this level

[digital mural]

And let the code hunt guy stealth

[tardy ingot]

just 4 ü

[plain snow]

the last thing needed in this level is ammo

[tardy ingot]

It requires that person to be more than adept at holding

[errant dome]

well it spawns specifically shadows no? i imagine they prolly dont wanna deal with more shadows

im actually not sure if it spawns shadows

[tardy ingot]

No o.O

[last crypt]

does biotracker hold or go explore

[tardy ingot]

Scouts spawn based on level

[errant dome]

or regular enemies

[tardy ingot]

Its just a normal wave

[plain snow]

oh nah trust me it's not that deep

[digital mural]

Hold

[plain snow]

like legit

[digital mural]

With the defender

[errant dome]

ok ya in that case its whatever

thought it spawned shadows xd

[last crypt]

how are you supposed to see invisible enemies

[digital mural]

Thermal
Flashlights?

[civic wave]

PDW, flashlights, audio cues

[last crypt]

ok so not everyone go hel guns

[tardy ingot]

Hold

For shadow zone -> bio will be close, just pull first room. Bio can ping

For later, if you had shadow zone (since it will then spawn shadows) you should have bio hold. If you got chargers bio can do whatever

[civic wave]

or if you're that bothered, wait until you roll charger zone

[digital mural]

Code hunt guy can run PDW or PR
He won't be defending

So it's alright

[plain snow]

let it go explore

[digital mural]

No?

Don't

[errant dome]

i wouldnt recommend pr since there is a fair amount of shadow giants usually

[civic wave]

biotracker holding will be more stable

[tardy ingot]

yes?

if you have chargers bio can go wherever

It stabilized both sides

[plain snow]

bio is just for the mother room and that's it honestly

[tardy ingot]

honestly
2 bio and 2 sentry is a play for a few lobbies

Mines are only used twice

[civic wave]

i mean this is just a problem of trying to best optimise whatever the fuck's going on when really it should be taken one step at a time and seeing if it improves

[native sun]

scatter of gun

[tardy ingot]

and you can find mines around the level often

[digital mural]

R7D2 sure has a lot of strategies

[tardy ingot]

I didnt wanna say it

[errant dome]

• if it ends up being code in charger zone? oof, that pr aint gonna do much lmao

[flat oar]

2 bio and 2 sentry is so common when my team play modded every map is so dark

[digital mural]

What worked for me was 2 burst 1 sniper sentry 1 bio

[plain snow]

the strat in r7d2 is never stop shooting

[tardy ingot]

you can change it up depending on what you struggle with

[digital mural]

Yeah

[plain snow]

hot take but the more I play this game the more shit I feel pr is

[digital mural]

Thats why the code hunt guy Will run it

Because its a meh gun

[tardy ingot]

As it has been said

Dont force anyone on thermal weapons unless you rly rly find it the only option

A pdw for 1 guy can be fine but see how you can adapt your holding spot/strategies

[tardy ingot]

Its a niche weapon

its either nice to have or extremely out of place

[plain snow]

even in the cases that is ncie to have

[tardy ingot]

funnily enough its a nice take for 2 E tiers

[green bronze]

PR is really good for r4e1

[tardy ingot]

like obviously youll run scatter cuz kek

but PR brings some good help for such levels

[plain snow]

if I want a long range weapon I just go hel rifle or burst cannon or hel gun

[digital mural]

Scatter 🤮

[errant dome]

r4e1 and ig r8e2?

[green bronze]

do we hate them cuz its too op?

[tardy ingot]

Ya

[errant dome]

pr was solid aganst kraken iirc ya?

[plain snow]

it's good dmg

honetly better than hel rifle against kraken

[tardy ingot]

PR brings cover in a few things

Nice vs kraken, bosses
Very easy shadow answer
Best shadow scout counter
Actually decent against nightmares

[digital mural]

You know what else is solid against kraken?
Do You know ||FULL AUTO MACRO SHORT RIFLE?||

[tardy ingot]

visibility obviously

[tardy ingot]

until its range kicks in

[errant dome]

no i dont, and i dont want to know :D

[digital mural]

Just fly in front of the tumor????

Ez

[errant dome]

ya fair

those 2 and r6d3 are prolly pr best levels

[plain snow]

ok r6d3

bridge section vs flyers

very satisfying

[tardy ingot]

the whole of r6d3 tbh

[grizzled patrol]

Wdym. Its the only Mission where it is at least usable

[tardy ingot]

you can carry any part solo

And then 3 pubs die to tank with foggies and scattergun + cfoam trip

[plain snow]

[tardy ingot]

In 2 weeks it happened to me in 6/7 pubs

i was able to clutch half but god

how

[digital mural]

[errant dome]

oh in the reactor lmao

i was confused for a sec i forgot that part had a tank

[cyan pivot]

What do artifacts taste like? They look delicious, like hard candy. Are there edible artifacts for sale?

[tardy ingot]

Have you tasted minerals like biotite?

[cyan pivot]

hmm i haven't

[tardy ingot]

Prob smth in line with that

[cyan pivot]

like iron?

[tardy ingot]

No

[cyan pivot]

wow i looked up some it does look tasty, kinda like tree sap or honey

[digital mural]

Have You?

[tardy ingot]

Ill have you taste granite

[soft crater]

[soft crater]

Reminded me when Sleepy? Called ppl cement licker

[tardy ingot]

Tbf cement isnt rly „rock“

at best its artificial rock

[last crypt]

can hel rifle 1 shot scout in the head

[errant dome]

ya

[green bronze]

can someone help me with r4e1

im hardstuck this level

[tardy ingot]

yes
at ton of weapons can actually

[errant dome]

i have a meeting :(

i can after

[errant dome]

if its to the back of the head almost every weapon can kill it

[digital mural]

Hmmmmmm

HMMMMMMM

Sounds good

[last crypt]

oh shi ok ok

[errant dome]

scouts take 6x dmg from a hit to the back of the head which is why this is the case

3x if its a front headshot

[cobalt tundra]

Ive one shot a scout w a knife b4

Once

[errant dome]

if u hit the back of the head its enuf dmg yea

same deal with bat

[cobalt tundra]

Just gotta jump

[errant dome]

u can do it without jumping but you need 2 get very used 2 the hitbox

tho its better to jump most of the time anyways

[last crypt]

r7d2, is the tank route or mother route easier

because both are quite impossible, and neither me nor my friends know how to kill either bosses

[rotund linden]

wb in the case of charger scout

[errant dome]

@rotund linden

[civic mist]

i think people usually prefer tank but its personal preference and might depend slightly on your guns aka do you have baby clear for example. mum side has a p-mother which could spawn in A. tank side has a couple tanks that can also spawn in A

[errant dome]

^

[last crypt]

what guns are recommended for killing a tank

[errant dome]

scattergun-burst cannon

[last crypt]

because apparently it has 1000 health or something

how am i supposed to do that dmg 😭

[errant dome]

it has 1k health but it takes 3x dmg

[civic mist]

if youre ballsy scattergun, otherwise anything with high dmg and some precision i guess

[errant dome]

so its effetive hp is 1000/3

[last crypt]

its also so hard to shoot its back, its always facing in front and i cant just run thru it to go behind

[civic mist]

generally speaking i recommend splitting 2/2. 2 people holding with 2 sentries placed, other two can clear side zone. do not shoot close to the opened sidezone when you hold so you dont accidentally wake stuff up.

[digital mural]

Scattergun can one shot him

[errant dome]

bait it outside, have 1 person from behind and 1 person from upfront, its a bit harder if there are more than 1 tank per room

[civic mist]

when tank or mum comes in from spawn side you can group to clear it, then communicate to clear the side zone if needed.

[last crypt]

how???

teach the ways

[digital mural]

Shooting it's weak point

[errant dome]

well not quite one shot

[civic mist]

keep those sentries filled up and have atleast someone hold

[flat oar]

bro spread misinformation

[grizzled patrol]

Full Auto short rifle (surely He wont Turn around and slap you right?)

[civic mist]

scattergun can oneshot mum client side

tank not so much

[errant dome]

3 well aimed shots puts it at 1 hp

[last crypt]

ya we got cucked by this in latest run

[civic mist]

play for cover

[errant dome]

use c-foam tripmines

[civic mist]

you can duck behind a lot of small stuff

[errant dome]

easiest way of killing a tank

or moms for that matter

[civic mist]

either way if youre not a full team there are a couple people with a lot of r7d2 clears that can help

[digital mural]

They must learn the way of GTFO

By suffering