gtfo-related-questions

[ocean spindle]

this is a trap question a newie would play the bat for the tutorial

[digital mural]

Slendo

it says "Likely to take"
newbies cant choose their weapons on the tutorial

so they can't take anything technically

[narrow niche]

Shush

[ocean spindle]

:[

[tardy ingot]

@ocean spindle anybody got a clean picture of a wardendoor?

nvm

[past mesa]

Yeah I will show you my warden door

[frail heart]

Can I open it?

[silent delta]

spear is fine for beginners

[silent delta]

she warden on my door till i gtfo?

[little brook]

Im on r1c2, any tips on what those spikey head things are?

[digital mural]

those are chargers

they are faster than normal enemies

and can hit multiple times very quickly

[little brook]

oh yippie, how do I kill it-

[digital mural]

shoot it

or melee it

[ocean spindle]

why do u tag me kdmskd

i mean i do

but why u tag me

[digital mural]

hammer and spear (a bit less than full) need a full charge to the back
bat and knife need a full charge hit and a single hit afterwards

[little brook]

Hooray I killed them

Thank you

[lean lance]

how many logs are in R1D1? 3 or 4?

[past mesa]

They have 30 hp and no headshot damage you kill by either being behind them or hitting twice

Pen guns are good into them

[digital mural]

4

[lean lance]

i couldn't find the K94-6ER-ESF, do u know where it is? i mean the zone

[digital mural]

zone 74

[lean lance]

so... there is 2 in zone 74 right, K94-5ER-ESF and K94-6ER-ESF?

[digital mural]

yes

[lean lance]

awesome! thank u so much

[silent delta]

https://andocas.com/gtfo/log-tracker/

[soft crater]

My dumbass didn't set a timer and it defaulted to 24hrs

[digital mural]

Clownlace

[near zealot]

problem wasn't difficulty, it's that max diff encourages you to do stealth which feels trash in that game and no one wants to stealth everything in a horde shooter

[past mesa]

na you could just perma kite

[minor fractal]

I think that's a skill issue, ngl.

If you are not bad at HD2, you just kill the enemies.

2 people walk off and do objective

2 people full clear the breach

repeat

until you run out of things to do

[neon gust]

Legit just waiting for iluminates update

Game got pretty boring for me

Also its unoptimize as shit

[cloud ember]

Out of curiosity, has anyone else gotten the glitch where bots don't recognize that there is a scan they need to be in?

We keep dying on ALT://R4E1 because of the sustained scans, the bots stand outside the scan and refuse to get in, similar to extraction scans

[digital mural]

Kick them

And add them back

[cloud ember]

Thanks

Has that bug been reported?

[digital mural]

Yes

A lot

It's very common

[cloud ember]

Thank you

It's really annoying lmao

[brazen bison]

odd and specific question but does anyone know which R1 level has the highest scout spawn rate

[digital mural]

The numbers of scouts are fixed

[brazen bison]

fr?

i had a R1A1 run where not a single scout spawned

maybe i just didnt go into the room it was in

[digital mural]

Sometimes it varies in some levels
But it's really weird

[civic wave]

R1A1 always spawns 2 scouts

[livid stone]

most likelyy

[civic wave]

Both in zone 50

some levels do have rng scout spawns but I've never really bothered much with that

[digital mural]

I think R1D1 scouts in the zone before reactor can vary

Unless its a bug in the game

[soft crater]

Hm

Never had that one before.

Though I've had it where the class 5 room before it had 1 scout instead of 2

[tiny wyvern]

Scouts can leak over a lot even in R1

Though it really isn't all that threatening usually

Most of the time you either get one moved towards another room or just one scout missing

[ocean spindle]

i think it only happens in d1

cause all the other scouts are very consistent
2 in a1, two in b1 in the path with the normal enemies, 2 in b2 one in the hub other in the hsu zone, none in c1, four in c2 with one on the beginning, one in the middle and one in 99 and 99, and then d1

which is one in the second zone and then one or two in the third

[tardy ingot]

No?

scouts dont spawn differing between zones

what happens is that you get rng scout stuff like in r1d1 and r3a3

[tiny wyvern]

Shit I misphrased my words again sry

[tardy ingot]

R1D1 on the 3rd alarm zone has 2 usually but can have 1

R3A3 4th code zone has 0 scouts usually but can spawn one

tho its funny that we didnt see it once during the r3a3 speedruns

They mightve changed it unintentionally

[tiny wyvern]

Oh btw @tardy ingot you seem to pop up in the steam forums once or twice, but I don't think I've seen you a lot there
Do you check there regularly or smth?

[tardy ingot]

i check in from time to time

Usually to see the very… interesting opinions

[digital mural]

by reading the negative reviews in GTFO you can see A LOT of skill issue

[civic wave]

that's just goat rng

[civic wave]

I feel like they could in og r4c2

But I haven't checked in a while, first room in extreme normally had 4 scouts and zone 11 had 1 iirc, but they could spawn differently through the zones

[tardy ingot]

i think thats less them moving around and more rng on the unique zones

i remember og r4b2 having a zone with potentially like 1-3 scouts

[civic wave]

First lower zone after gen cluster?

[tardy ingot]

i think so ye

[narrow niche]

I love steam forums

Everything is a game issue

And also the 700 posts of the game randomly crashing

Cause yk

Gtfo

[vast olive]

afternoon which missions would not be possable with bots I know r7d1 is one any others?

[latent obsidian]

I think R7E1 is pretty much impossible too

[ocean spindle]

r7d2 is possible but not worth the mental toll

and u gotta use mods defo or something to figure out some stuff

c3 is pretty intense with PE

probs not possible too cause of overload

b3 and c2 would just be stupidly difficult but still possible

[vast olive]

all r7 correct?

[narrow niche]

?

[vast olive]

oh I assuming all of them are rundown 7 missions

[past mesa]

R7d1 isn’t impossible with bots

R4e1 secondary probs isn’t fun with bots but main is probs doable

R5e1 is probs doable with bots

R7e1 reactor isn’t fully doable unless you just long kite everything guess codes or get enemies stuck. I think it is just reactor but it might have some wild mind strategy for tank or something

@minor fractal I feel like r7e1 is possible with solo bots

No cheese

surely it is? Like is code 3 the only issue

No way

That matters

Just 8 mine the tank?

[minor fractal]

R7D1 and R8C1 Ove are very unrealistic w/ bots.

R7E1 I think wouldn't be that bad.

[past mesa]

Yeah but r7e1

[minor fractal]

I might experiment w/ it.

[past mesa]

I think in current meta you might be able to solo that level

idk

[minor fractal]

Solo would be incredibly hard.

[past mesa]

yeah but the main issue was you can’t clear the reactor waves and get codes but now we have pen guns

Surely you could just 8 mine the two tanks

[minor fractal]

There is a lot less pressure than before

[past mesa]

With perfect lines

[minor fractal]

But hybrids would be really hard

[past mesa]

Hard but I think it is really possible now a days

Even the pure duo is piss easy compared to just r7

duo

Wave 3 and 4 if you could smuggle foam into the level(unlikely or impossible) you could do wave 4 you also might just be able to full kill everything idk

[ocean spindle]

i fully believe bots in r7e1 might be harder than a full solo run just cause of the full team scans involved

[minor fractal]

All I know is that doorbug is piss easy

[minor fractal]

Just stealth proper

[past mesa]

Yeah but the main issue if I remember back when the true solo r7e1 was being discussed was

The tank in wave 3

[ocean spindle]

it would also be very fucky on alarms tho and for the beginning part too since bots always come last to scans

and they might die a lot so that's a lot of esc resetting bots

[past mesa]

Tbh I don’t think bots matter to much the main reason they make it easier slendi is because of the extra tools

You get to smuggle everything into the level you need

you can smuggle in foam mines and sentries

[ocean spindle]

i mean yeah but coso de ring how terribly they behave with those...
i think the easiest would just be a mix

u get em out for a hella lot of parts and do em solo

and then just add en for when alarms or shooting

doing the S with bots just sounds like a pain kiting involved or not

[past mesa]

Tbh I think you could solo r7e1 without any bots expect you add them in just to place sentry down in reactor

and mine for tank

Funnest solo

[ocean spindle]

the most crazy ass strats ever

adding in bots just to mine a tank lol

i love it

[past mesa]

I honestly think it is free

Idk maybe I am insane

[ocean spindle]

the only issue would be making sure the bot doesn't grab anything cause if they refill themselves before u reset them

cause they will just come back to default %

[past mesa]

Just don’t open anything

[ocean spindle]

if u hold tool then yeah

[vast olive]

honstly the only one I really have proamblems with the bots so far is R5b1 the giant charges they keep switching to meele once they get close which get them all killed

[ocean spindle]

that's just getting a good ranges weapon to deal with en

and maybe an autopistol to stagger

hel rifle/burst cannon and autopistol should fair fairly well but u would also need to deal with every giant urself

which for overload sounds extremely fucked

[vast olive]

yeah proably just stick to main for now since I just want to unlock the other missions

[minor fractal]

This is all just user error, though.

None of these scans matter

and none of them get easier to hold as a true solo.

[ocean spindle]

maybe what i'm thinking of is more annoying that difficult yeah

[vast olive]

kinda depends if you doing a run for say an error alrm unless its far enough for them to phase though closeing doors behind you it becomes a mess lerned that the hard way with R6C2 one always got stuck behind a closed door and died

worse you need them for an alrm and they are stuck on the other side you have to wait for ever just for them to start the first scan

[ocean spindle]

or just

reset them

pressing esc and kicking them to readd them

[minor fractal]

This is also the thing

For any section where true solo is genuinely easier than bots

you simply disable your bots until the section is over

and you just have 4 tools instead of 1

[vast olive]

ah got it

[silent delta]

why can literally anyone make a poll

this is too much poewr

hang on

[digital mural]

Chocolate better

[silent delta]

opinion invalid

[soft crater]

You did the same mistake as me and didn't set the timer.

[silent delta]

i set it for 24 hours

[soft crater]

It defaults 24hrs.

[silent delta]

yeah

what about it

[digital mural]

You have stupid

Rights invalid

[past mesa]

How do I start a poll

[digital mural]

Press the + button

You should be able to have the option to make a poll

[soft crater]

Ayo Jish poll

[topaz anvil]

[ocean spindle]

lot of gay people on this server including non mods like me so

probability is high

homosexuals for the win

🏳️‍🌈

[civic wave]

I'm not gay i just like staring at pretty people

[arctic marten]

thanks for sharing but no one said you were gay

[civic wave]

kaiser at some point in time was insinuating i was gay

he never gave up the ghost either

[arctic marten]

ok but literally no one listens to him

he has like half a brain cell and hes not using it

[civic wave]

correct

[silent delta]

how does being gay work if you're nonbinary

gay afaik means being attracted to the same gender

how does that work if you dont identify with any gender

[digital mural]

everyone is gay

we breath the same air

[narrow niche]

is this real chat

[silent delta]

listen i aint gay but

[digital mural]

i give you 20$

[silent delta]

the unwavering heterosexuality of a straight male
VERSUS
20 whole American dollars

[narrow niche]

also nonbinary =/= agender

:P

[silent delta]

right

how does being gay work if ur agender

[civic wave]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

I have wondered the same but do not care for an answer

[silent delta]

probably

[narrow niche]

real

[silent delta]

my general mentality has been "dont fuck w that stuff if you dont get it"

[halcyon current]

I have never wondered this but now I am also curious.

[civic wave]

maybe either goes off your assigned birth sex or whichever side of the spectrum you identify most strongly with, but tbh I have no idea at all

[silent delta]

honestly idrc

who gives a shit

[civic wave]

not me

[silent delta]

be attracted to who you're attracted to

label yourself what makes you comfortable

not much more to it than that tbh

[halcyon current]

Oh I don't give a shit for any real reason, but now I'm curious, yk?

[civic wave]

ya

labels are not requirements

[silent delta]

but at the same time i am curious yes

hmmm

clearly experimentation is required

[digital mural]

@silent delta are you gay?

[silent delta]

not since last i checked

[topaz anvil]

Sleepersexual tbh

[digital mural]

wtf

[silent delta]

listen

[digital mural]

get out of here

mods, ban this guy

[silent delta]

i am a straight cis white male

with blue eyes, no less

[halcyon current]

They gotta have a crazy tongue game.

[topaz anvil]

Fr

[silent delta]

all i need is blonde hair for ultimate minmaxxed privilege

[halcyon current]

HAR feels cool im ngl, should use it more.

[silent delta]

never felt anything queer whatsoever, but it aint my business what other people do

HAR is solid

[topaz anvil]

HAR really???? Just take normal AR

[silent delta]

it does things

[digital mural]

COMPARING A MAIN WITH A SPECIAL

MODS

WE CANT ALLOW THIS

[silent delta]

revolver feels like you have to try really hard to get the same results you'd get from a different gun with a fraction of the effort

[halcyon current]

I can't use special revo while HCP exists tbh

[minor fractal]

That's what makes it insanely based and fun.

[topaz anvil]

Fellas you ever sleep with your legs up the wall

[silent delta]

lmao i had a buddy who just brought three special damage boosters to turn his revo into a high cal

[halcyon current]

Yk what, based as fuck.

[silent delta]

i mean yeah it worked

revolver handles waaaaay better than high cal

more ammo, better reload

[digital mural]

just bring HCP and turn it into a mini sniper

[silent delta]

lmao

shotgun range sniper

[halcyon current]

Boutta try this.

[silent delta]

at that point do it with hel rifle

then you at least have range

[digital mural]

hel rifle sucks

baby gun

OP weapon = no skill

smh

[halcyon current]

Look man, if I was putting on damage boosters to "do something real" I'd just use the DMR, I'm here for memes

[silent delta]

i play to have fun

[silent delta]

fair

in that case

do it with scatter

😏

[halcyon current]

Fuckin lmao

[silent delta]

300 damage per shot

[halcyon current]

"No guys you don't understand I absolutely need 3 damage boosters with the scatter"

[silent delta]

its

[digital mural]

one shot tank?

[silent delta]

optimal

[digital mural]

[silent delta]

uhh

could you do that?

[digital mural]

idfk

[silent delta]

with three spec damage boosters?

ive never tried

[halcyon current]

It wouldn't shock me with how the scatter goes I'm ngl

[silent delta]

@tardy ingot you're our test guy would that work

[tardy ingot]

hm?

[silent delta]

if u have 3 spec damage boosters

could u one shot tank with scatter

[tardy ingot]

no

youd need 200% dmg increase

[silent delta]

man

gun sucks

buff scatter

[tardy ingot]

Running 3 of them sure is funny

[past mesa]

You could get a two shot maybe ?

[tardy ingot]

You need ~50% dmg boost

[past mesa]

Surely that is possible

[tardy ingot]

i dunno

I dont run boosters much

i remember 1 special is like 20+ smth%

[fallen kite]

easily yeah

[frail heart]

super easily

[fallen kite]

you could probably get 70 from boosters

[fringe belfry]

what are the distance requirements for the enemies to spawn during bio scans

[civic wave]

generally 2 rooms away (with very rare exceptions) for standard alarms

[fringe belfry]

can this be used to block spawns?

[civic wave]

you can manipulate where the enemies spawn, but won't be able to block them from spawning in the first place (unless there are enough enemies alive at a given time to reach the enemy spawn cap)

but enemy capping is a separate thing to alarm wave spawn locations

[past mesa]

Yes

[minor fractal]

Common Revo W.

[digital mural]

hel shotgun is bad

really bad

no range
no damage

0/10 gun

[ocean spindle]

:O

[digital mural]

to be fair

hel revo is more fun to use

[minor fractal]

Lucky that sawed-off wasn't in the poll.

[fallen kite]

Tbh 4 makes it so much better bc you can mag dump giants

Kinda broken

Should be 3 shots

[ocean spindle]

it was fine being 3 shots for a main

[minor fractal]

Prolly also needs a minor ammo nerf.

[tiny wyvern]

Lore wise it should only have 3 shots anyways
I think it was buffed to 4 shells before, right?

Or was it another gun

[digital mural]

it used to have 3

now it has 4 for whatever reason

[tiny wyvern]

Maybe the devs thought it'd be nice to be able to kill four sleepers with it
you know instead of three

One per shot

[digital mural]

it would make sense
if the gun had 4 barrels and not 3

i blame it on the worldline shenanigans

[tiny wyvern]

I would've preferred that it looks like a normal pump action sawed off
That way the devs would've at least had good reasons for changing the ammo
Without destroying the aesthetics of the gun.

Though I suppose a small cannon does have good value in terms of fun

[minor fractal]

Balancing around 3-mag is just better, though.

[tiny wyvern]

yeah

Too bad that will probably never happen

[narrow niche]

well it didnt matter did it

its 4 shots now

[digital mural]

hello IFO

[narrow niche]

hey

<3

[hard nexus]

yes

hel gun good

[hidden ridge]

If their intent was getting sawn-off to kill more normals I'd rather get faster reload time than 1 more shell since the model showing 3 instead of 4 is just weird

[native sun]

They gave it a faster reload time (and made it probably fine) and then they gave it 4 mag

[tardy ingot]

wdym „probably“ fine lol

it was already rly good with 3 mag, the extra range and better reload during alt r6

[hard nexus]

Well hel revo is 8 shots

They were like yea that is weird we should fix it by making another gun weird as well

[tardy ingot]

sawed off most probably just didnt get picked more than a few times pre r8 lol

the notion was that it was shit (since it was pretty bad in og r6 and people didnt bother trying it)

[tiny wyvern]

I always thought of it as a main scattergun

At least that got me close enough to things for it to do actual damage

[tardy ingot]

eh

[hard nexus]

I never tried it

[tardy ingot]

it has higher range than standard shotty

lol

[hard nexus]

Like mate you made hel revo

Ain't no way I'm looking at other guns

[tiny wyvern]

Is hel rev good at launch?

[tardy ingot]

lol

it was better

[tiny wyvern]

wut

[tardy ingot]

higher pen, less recoil

[hard nexus]

Wait

[tardy ingot]

it also had a slightly faster reload cancel

[grizzled patrol]

I think it Could 1 tap strikers

[hard nexus]

It has recoil?

[tardy ingot]

No

[tardy ingot]

its low rn

But it legit had none compared to now

[grizzled patrol]

Or Something simmilar idk

[tardy ingot]

Just check og r4 runs

its crazy

also 4pen iirc

[tiny wyvern]

Yeah but the pellets go wherever they wanted

[tardy ingot]

like shotty

og r4 was stupid

hel revo best main of all time

burst cannon with burst cancel, 5 burst, 20 dmg no recoil

[ocean spindle]

and auto sentry :D

[tardy ingot]

no

The gap between best weapon and 2nd best was insane

[ocean spindle]

we should bring it back

[tiny wyvern]

should we?

@tardy ingot Btw did heavy smg use to be a special?
I saw your shitpost and I still don't quite get it in my head.

Is it just a mod tru made

[ocean spindle]

no it was a popular take that hsmg should be a special

cause the heavy assault rifle was a main, and with r6 it became a special

[tiny wyvern]

Oh so it was the other way around

[ocean spindle]

so many were in the opinion that it should follow the same path, specially cause when it came out it was kinda bad

both on og and alt

[tiny wyvern]

ok that makes more sense now

[tardy ingot]

specifically blackdragon (who gets it as the hammer) wanted that to happen

and tru modded it in their vanilla reloaded

[tiny wyvern]

who's blackdragon
Like the one that still comments on stuff around general every once in a while

or was it someone else

Nevermind you meant the shitpost I get it now

[tardy ingot]

that is blackdragon yes

hes on of the ogs

[tiny wyvern]

Yeah I thought the hammer as in the hammer in the game

That's the main confusion

It's gone now

[cyan crater]

is it normal for the game to fuck you over with the wave spawns

for example

you hear the yell from the right side

but they spawn from the left side

[tiny wyvern]

Sometimes

Most of the time

You've reversed your headphones and so they come from the wrong side of it

[topaz anvil]

Sometimes the audio channels swap even if you have your headphones on correctly

[tiny wyvern]

^

That or the room they're spawning from wraps around your room

[topaz anvil]

real

[tiny wyvern]

I mean I used to watch a guy on youtube with stero headphones that bug out on fnaf

[topaz anvil]

Sounds brutal

[tiny wyvern]

Yeah he was doing SL campaign's secret office, so ennard just faqs with him

He gets baited quite a lot

[soft crater]

(If only we still had Red and Orange ones for newer people to try em)

[lone mortar]

Eva when stream

[tardy ingot]

my man read on my discord LOL

[lone mortar]

Never

I will always stick on you in these chats until the very end

[digital mural]

thats gay

[civic wave]

Mfw I harass someone on discord for an answer to a question knowing full well the answer will always be posted in their own discord server

[lone mortar]

Says the guy whose been making out with azert in my server chats

[civic wave]

Regular behaviour

[digital mural]

[lone mortar]

Still

He is kinda gae towards me too

So you have a point alexo

[lone mortar]

Did you literally just ping him “gay” again you

[digital mural]

no

i didnt

what are you talking about

[lone mortar]

You know i can see the server chat logs right

[digital mural]

why you dont see deez

[lone mortar]

Omg its another deez joke

Im so going nuts rn

[digital mural]

nuts in yo mouth

[lone mortar]

Like the 28 times prior

[arctic marten]

yeah cause you're super above making the same joke 28 times

[lone mortar]

Yes i am

Also hello MrMrMrMrMrMrMrMrMrMrMountainMan

[civic wave]

Stealing my jokes now too

[lone mortar]

1 blocked msg

[narrow niche]

What is going on in here

[soft crater]

You fight like 4 of Pablo's Sons in the level Pablo chases us.

[stiff hearth]

is R3A3 supposed to spawn a wave of giants in last seconds of 6/6?

[livid stone]

ive always had that so i think so

[digital mural]

Yes

[stiff hearth]

LOL it jumpscared me

[past mesa]

Depends on where you hold

If you hold in reactors and kill fast you full kill before reactor is done

[stiff hearth]

i did this map like 4 times, i didnt remember seeing the giant barrier in any of these times

then today decided to do solo just for chilling

got jumpscared

and lost

[worn crow]

The potato poll was pretty close but I'm glad we could come together as a community to decide the winner

[ocean spindle]

vanilla for the win

[narrow niche]

^

[frail heart]

none

[cosmic lion]

As a beginner to GTFO, what kinda tips do y'all have for me? I primarily play Solo w/ 3 bots if that means anything (ping me if you don't mind when you respond)

[tiny wyvern]

Understand that bots suck
And they can kill you if you don't know what you're doing

[cosmic lion]

Oh 100% LMAO

[tiny wyvern]

Also if you mess up somethng important like codes or smth no one can help you recover

Bcs bots can't use terminals

[cosmic lion]

Wdym codes? Like terminal inputs?

[tiny wyvern]

You probs haven't seen them yet

[cosmic lion]

also in-general for like, when I do play with friends, do you have any advice on like-

[tiny wyvern]

But there are things you need to do at some point with terminals

[cosmic lion]

equipment, or what I should be focusing on w them?

and yeah I'm on R1/R2 LOL

[tiny wyvern]

Understanding how the game really needs you to perform with teammates
Usually that means killing enemies

[cosmic lion]

So like all of us attacking a giant with a melee at once vs, well, not

[tiny wyvern]

Or you solo the giant

Really depends on skill and ping

[cosmic lion]

That's fair honestly lmao

Okay so in general it's just like

fuck around, find out what guns are good where, and work as a group huh?

[tiny wyvern]

Work together or die together sort of thing

And also remember that bullets aren't as scarce as you are led to believe

When you have to shoot, aim to kill enemies

[cosmic lion]

Of course

[tiny wyvern]

Instead of letting them get close

[cosmic lion]

So overestimate bullets rather than let enemies get close?

[tiny wyvern]

More like try to learn how to kill things effectively in this game

You'll learn on r1c1

Cause if you don't the wace will swarm you

Wave

[cosmic lion]

I actually was gonna say that's where I paused last time I played (which, granted was AGES ago)

[gray blaze]

Not much of an advice but all A, B most of C and even some D tier levels are doable with bots unless you go for prisoner efficiency.

[cosmic lion]

Which rundowns aren't doable with bots then?

Any E levels and?

[tiny wyvern]

He's basically listed every single one you can't do
Which is E levels and fringe funni levels

You'll know when you hit them and they hit back at you

Like a boomerang

[cosmic lion]

Wh

what

[tiny wyvern]

Summer child

You'll know when you get there

For now have hope that this game won't crash on you

(Other than some cases tho almost every single one is soloable with bots)

(provided some measure of skill)

[cosmic lion]

Crash like

close itself?

like a PC issue?

[grizzled patrol]

Drop the Spear and never Touch it. Bat is good, but Has a steeper learning curve. Knife and Hammer are the best melees

[cosmic lion]

I love knife :3

[tiny wyvern]

Spear Slander huh

[cosmic lion]

So can I ask why

Spear is bad?

[grizzled patrol]

Too slow

[tiny wyvern]

You can't run while charging with spear

And you charge shit slow

But I know people that make it work

Just don't tell them to kill zoomers

And everythings A-ok

[cosmic lion]

LOL

[tiny wyvern]

I mean we have tech support channel
You can sort of see what crash means

Just by going there

[cosmic lion]

Oh

No I'm not worried about that

I have a really high-end PC and it's never crashed for me

[grizzled patrol]

The biggest Problem is it does Not get any damage compensations for that Speed Nerf. On paper it Has Higher crit damage, but it Has lower Base damage and it applies only once per enemy (since the head will Break)

The range is barely an upside, since it Matters only for Giants If you are Not comfortable with being in their breathing distance

Its supposed to pierce, but the mechanic is so Broken, i dont think devs will ever bother to fix the code

[cosmic lion]

I seeeeeee

So hammers and knives?

[tiny wyvern]

of all honesty all of them can be used

Just need to be aware of what crap you have to deal with

[past mesa]

spear is good if you dont understand stealth

ngl

[cosmic lion]

Oh so that brings up something else

how should I determine whether or not I should be stealthing or not

[tiny wyvern]

As long as the room's not awake you're stealthing

If there's a timer on your ass telling you to hurry, that's when you pull rooms

When you have an error alarm coming for you, that's when you pull rooms

[cosmic lion]

Oh lemme rephrase uhm

[tiny wyvern]

Outside of those two things || and boss fights|| you try to stealth

Unless you're absolutely outnumbered

[cosmic lion]

When should I be trying to like

""skip"" rooms

vs stealth killing everything

[tiny wyvern]

If there's nothing in there you need and it won't get tripped by any alarm

You leave it

Unless you want to waste more time as a solo and maybe lose your run

If you're with randos or friends you can full clear everything

But you're a solo with bots
Go into places for ammo medi and tool, objectives and stuff like that

If it won't wake up from any alarms, you keep leave them alone unless you have ammo to burn

[cosmic lion]

That honestly is good to know

I've been full-clearing everything always

[tiny wyvern]

Do you have that much time on your hands?

I don't

[cosmic lion]

I used to

When I play GTFO I typically have

a full 24 hours dedicated to playing

[grizzled patrol]

If you See that the room is filled to the brim with sleepers and there is No way of Killing one without waking 4 more Up. Or Multiple Giants all Standing in the Same place

[tiny wyvern]

For R1-R2, most of the room's you're going to be in aren't really unclearable solo, just painful to do

And for the Ds of R2 and the E one it's absolute bonkers

I think

[gray blaze]

R2D1 was surprisingly easier to do with 3 bots than with 1 friend and 2 bots or full team of randos. Some rooms can and should be pulled, and it really helps that bots have that tendency to immediately shoot/melee enemies that wake up from long range aggro, and bots never alert enemies even when using guns. Crutch gaming...

[craggy pier]

dont bots have infect resist

[tiny wyvern]

Yeah I think that's right

[narrow niche]

bots cannot get infect

[tiny wyvern]

They just don't get infected

[narrow niche]

dont even for r5e1

[craggy pier]

thats wat i meant

[narrow niche]

then yea

[tiny wyvern]

btw RyK are they still bullying you
why are you changing your name every five minutes?

[narrow niche]

poor ryk

[hard nexus]

what do u mean isnt that what discord users do

[tiny wyvern]

Yeah I guess so

mb

[hard nexus]

all yours mate

this cancer behavior is spreading to steam too, too often i wonder who the fuck is this in my friend list

[gray blaze]

IMO the only rundown that if fully doable with bots is R1 lol. Don't bother with reactor levels where you need to look for codes in different zones or with levels with error alarm (except for R4A2 and R4A3 and R6C1) and levels with surge alarms. Bots are too slow to efficiently place mines and sentries during waves and they have that weird tendency to melee enemies for no reason even if there is tons of enemies around them and it's obviously better to just shoot.

[cosmic lion]

My two biggest issues I've found with bots are

1, like you said they love to just melee for absolutely no fucking reason when it's clearly better to shoot

And 2, they don't- keep resources ever, like they refuse to hold onto them

[gray blaze]

They use resources as soon as someone is missing 20% of hp/ammo/tool. The worst thing is when they attempt to heal you mid-wave and all of them have medkits. They just waste 2 out of 3 medkits and also take damage from enemies while healing you.

Also maybe I'm just delusional at this point but I believe that if bot has for example a lock melter and you want them to grab a c-foam grenade, you need to get close to grenade and ping it with middle mouse 1-3 times.

[cosmic lion]

Welp

Time to start Solo q'ing some rundowns

while i watch someone better than me play LOL

R1C1 huh

[tiny wyvern]

lfg dont use matchmake

[cosmic lion]

Nahhh, I'll just ball to start

[tiny wyvern]

matchmake is inaccurate and can throw you to E levels

[cosmic lion]

OH

is there a difference in the like

[tiny wyvern]

Without you wanting to

[cosmic lion]

Knives + Hammers + shit

[narrow niche]

matchmake sucks

[tiny wyvern]

by that you mean melee choice?

[gray blaze]

oh, also I'd recommend giving bats to bots instead of any other melee

[cosmic lion]

Well yes but uh

[tiny wyvern]

melee for bots are cosmetic

[cosmic lion]

Like, there're like five sledgehammers

[gray blaze]

bots LOVE using charged attacks on enemies

[tiny wyvern]

They have a set charge attack

Eyegore it doesn't matter

It does the same attack

no matter what

[gray blaze]

really?

[tiny wyvern]

Jish said so

[gray blaze]

crap

[tiny wyvern]

And I believe him

[cosmic lion]

I can't send images here but for example there's

Kovac Sledge, Santonian Mallet, Maco Gavel, etc. etc.

[tiny wyvern]

They're the same

Cosmetic change

[gray blaze]

I was certain that since bots use mostly charged attacks it's more efficient to give them bats because it charges very quickly and also hass high stun chance

[tiny wyvern]

hammers are hammers

[cosmic lion]

Kay

And then just

fuck around until I find a gun that works huh?

[tiny wyvern]

https://gtfo.fandom.com/wiki/Bots#Melee

Wiki also says so so I believe it

[gray blaze]

my life was a lie 😭

[tiny wyvern]

sort of

have fun with any gun you want until you can't

That's usually what it is

[cosmic lion]

I seeeeeeeee

[gray blaze]

yeah, some guns that are generally considered to be the best don't work for me personally, my aim sucks so Hel Revolver is not for me and I hate Carbine's burst fire

so just find something you like and are good with

[cosmic lion]

Aight be back in a bit I s'pose, thank you all <3

[tiny wyvern]

by the @cosmic lion wiki has a lot about bots you should probs check if you want to know more
https://gtfo.fandom.com/wiki/Bots

[gray blaze]

I'd recommend using PDW as your main weapon when playing with bots because bot with biotracker can't tell you how many sleeping enemies are there in the dark and where are they so I find having thermal scope very useful

also I just love SMGs

[hard nexus]

pdw in 2024

[gray blaze]

what's wrong with it

was it nerfed into oblivion?

[hard nexus]

many ppl like to think that yes into oblivion

[craggy pier]

pdw is garbage outisde of shadow levels

[hard nexus]

i like to think its manageable but youre really better off taking a lot of other weapons instead

also if your bio is good u dont need thermal

[gray blaze]

my bio is bot

[hard nexus]

so

even more so

if u have bot bio dont take pdw simple as

unless shadows are sleeping ig

[gray blaze]

I mean using it for dark levels with sleepers

[hard nexus]

but, just use flashlight

[gray blaze]

though it's more of a matter of convenience to be honest

[hard nexus]

no, its always an issue of skill

[gray blaze]

I'm too lazy to use flashlight and then wait for enemies to stop twitching

[hard nexus]

just charge and melee entire room then

[gray blaze]

I will take your advice into consideration

[grizzled patrol]

Turn your Red Light Green light Game into whack a mole

[civic furnace]

I would never recommend Pdw

Only for like R5D1 , solo R4E1 or solo R2E1

[civic wave]

It can let you go faster in r4e1 duo or speeds too

[civic furnace]

Oh yeah duo R4E1 it felt nice

To code hunt with

Just for the thermal

[muted creek]

frens

what floor does story starts

[soft crater]

R6-R8 has a bigger focus on story

Lore in R1-R5 is more or less found in logs/audiologs

[muted creek]

arigathanks

[ocean spindle]

despite what they might say pdw is still good for some missions specially cause bots cannot ping sleeping enemies or tell you about em

pdw is not the best ever weapon, but it is still usable and u can do stuff with it

but also take into account u could also pick the precision rifle, which is a special that usually has better use cases

[hidden ridge]

Personally I'd say that considering PDW is a Main, it's a more sacrificable slot for getting a thermal

But thermals are still shadow dependant so if you've no need for a thermal pick something else

[tardy ingot]

pdw was overrated by a lot of people

then it got accurately rated by more and more

Then it got a slight nerf and another slight nerf (that isnt even rly one) and people acted like it got shat on

[ocean spindle]

i think it's sacrificable but still not as bad as it seems

[hidden ridge]

I THINK it's a fine automatic main but that's kind of moot when the competition is 3 flavours of AR, a stagger machine, and MP

[tardy ingot]

pdw is a good pick for a full auto, that means kinda meh overall

but its got a thermal so its worth using for that if you want to have o e

[gray blaze]

btw is it just me or ALT R6 has little to no Schaeffer's voicelines? I remember back in original R6 he was yapping almost every mission

[ocean spindle]

yeah they were mostly gone

not only schaffer but a lot of dialogue in general

[gray blaze]

why tho

[ocean spindle]

mostly cause people thought it slowed down the missions and it wasn't skippable
so they turned into logs instead

[gray blaze]

I know it´s an alternative timeline but i don´t see any reason for him to be quiet

[tardy ingot]

this

theres hel pp (actually good due to pen and stagger multi being actually strong things)

Machine pistol/Heavy smg/smg (similar to pdw, slightly better in combat but no thermal)

AR/bullpup who are just sad

[ocean spindle]

as logs they are optional and u don't have to take 70 seconds

for a team scan

[hidden ridge]

When I replay R7 missions I get annoyed by how talkative Schaeffer is tbh

[tardy ingot]

Tbh the alt r6 lore is such a downgrade from og

[tardy ingot]

R8A2 speedruns with dialog on 0

i can live without having overlapping dialog

[ocean spindle]

i mean
schaeffer lore or which lore

cause schaeffer didn't do a whole lot apart from killing a decaying corpse

[hidden ridge]

I'll tell you the truth: I expected the Alts to have basically a more "tell" approach to lore

Weird that they decided not to

[tardy ingot]

the whole extension lore was better

the r6b1 pre tp audio log missing is sad af

[hidden ridge]

To be honest the whole reworking things is weird, on one hand I'd liked to have the maps be as close as possible to the ones I never got to play, on the other I'd liked to see some sectors in R1-3

[tardy ingot]

i dont think sectors wouldve been good necessarily

But reworking maps to be better

See r5c1, r5d2, r3d1

[gray blaze]

and is it just me or original R6 was harder than ALT R6? R6 was the only 'original' (non-ALTered) rundown that I got to play and replaying it 2 years later it feels easier, is it because of the changes in room layout?

[tardy ingot]

og wasnt harder nah

[ocean spindle]

i mean yes it was the only skippable i would've like to seen it but
as in general i don't think the extension lore was... Useful in many ways
cause/ Conduits, it is all about em, but they tell you so little and it doesn't really come anywhere, it just plants the seeds schaeffers crazy enough to kill
and it isn't rlly until the Alt we get an answer about it
i remember a scaler video where someone said mid bx "this is pure exposition" and i thought it was funny cause they don't explain anything there

[hidden ridge]

As someone who did both: both are easy, R6CX (previously DX) feels a good bit easier but eh

[tardy ingot]

OG R6 honestly had better weapons than ALT (aside from
Hel shotty and sawed off i guess)

[tardy ingot]

Skill diff

R6C2 is harder due to gun diff now

R6C3 is harder (more tanks)

everything else didnt rly change at all lol

[hidden ridge]

ah right no more sniper to clear waves of hybrids

[tardy ingot]

R6D1 pre fog removal alarm is harder!!

in alt

ALT is minimally harder overall

[hidden ridge]

I remember some people saying that OG was supposed to have those tank but they clipped through the floor or didnt spawn

[ocean spindle]

u just gotten better ouwhhowow

[tardy ingot]

eeeeeh

[ocean spindle]

sorry i had to

[tardy ingot]

nah

theres no way

unless its datamined that sounds like massive cap

[ocean spindle]

tanks falling through the floor sounds hilarious but also very fake

[hidden ridge]

No idea, I'm just reporting hearsay

[tardy ingot]

what are changes that made alt r6 easier..

R6C1 has an easier layout for the Tscan, enemies spawn slightly further out giving you a bit more free time between waves

also man

I miss og r6d1s layout in fog removal zones

it was so much more interesting

than now

[ocean spindle]

dak when on a grief state when he saw c1

it was his fav mission and it was the most changed

and he always says how bad is it now

[hidden ridge]

sounds like me and r4c2

[ocean spindle]

the doors on the T scan are not centered and enemies spawn further, the errors easy and the key always in the end, after the first datacube u have to backtrack SO much more

i know his complaints by heart now

[silver fable]

r6dx (uh cx now) became easier on account of giving us a couple more frames during uplinks

[soft crater]

Flyer double dmg

[silver fable]

also I guess og r6 had like 3 specials

the current game doesn't have r6 sniper, hel gun got nerfed a little too

but there's a broader range of viable specials

also we only had launch scatter for a few weeks right?

current scatter is eerily close to launch scatter

but yeah I agree with it being mostly the same difficulty-wise as og r6

[topaz anvil]

Ye not like the changes made the levels free

[tardy ingot]

Launch scatter was better lol

[silver fable]

really? 192 damage vs what now?

[tardy ingot]

153

[silver fable]

can't remember much else, I think they nerfed the ammo from launch but don't remember what from

[tardy ingot]

it legit 4 shots pmom

overkills on tank 3 shot

[tardy ingot]

ammo was pretty much like og r6 snipers

[silver fable]

yeah but didn't launch scatter do these things? tumor changes?

[tardy ingot]

the gun was stupid

?

im talking about launch scatter

[silver fable]

I don't know, you're telling me current scatter is better than launch scatter

[tardy ingot]

launch scatter was another step up from scatter rn

[silver fable]

oh

[tardy ingot]

Oops i misstyped above

[silver fable]

ah

[tardy ingot]

But ye

og r6 sniper
Launch scatter
Best version of hel gun

hel revos 2nd best version

[silver fable]

I know launch scatter was better

[tardy ingot]

the best loadout was always the same

[silver fable]

I said "eerily close to", not "better than"

still obv. consider there to be a gap

[tardy ingot]

the difference between launch and rn is probably as close as rn to post nerf

[silver fable]

also I don't know that I consider launch scatter to be a part of the og r6 arsenal, considering that they nerfed it really early on

[topaz anvil]

Tbf i couldn't even remember when scatter was added

[silver fable]

r6

[hidden ridge]

R6 release

[topaz anvil]

I know that now

[tardy ingot]

when did they nerf it tho

[topaz anvil]

Dunno why i initially thought it was r7 :')

[tardy ingot]

It wasnt even in r7

[topaz anvil]

I know but i rarely played it

[silver fable]

couple of weeks in I think

at least it feels like it was a couple weeks in, I don't know exact dates

[tardy ingot]

Would need to check patchnotes

[hidden ridge]

...

[tardy ingot]

About 1 1/2 to 2 weeks

[hidden ridge]

Is there something that changes host tool?

[tardy ingot]

in what way?

[hidden ridge]

I think someone changed my tool

[tardy ingot]

Huh

[hidden ridge]

yeah no

99% sure someone changed it

and I'm host

[tardy ingot]

Ask your lobby?

[hidden ridge]

"You're crazy bra" is what I'll get as an answer

[silver fable]

#patch-notes message

looks like you found it though

so, within 2 weeks

thought it was early

[tardy ingot]

tbh it was the most busted weapon of all time

[civic wave]

192 damage, pen

[tardy ingot]

afaik pen didnt work

but it had the stat

[civic wave]

damn, we were so close to having a shotgun with pen be in the game but i guess that's something we'll never get

[native sun]

Nah a shotgun with pen would be broken

[civic wave]

Ya definitely

[tiny wyvern]

If slug shotgun could pen would it be better?

Actual qquestion

[native sun]

Adding a stat with massive upside would indeed make any weapon better

[civic wave]

pen makes every gun better

Free value

[native sun]

I think slug shotgun with pen is probably as good as sawed off

Not as good as HEL Revo or HEL shotgun

Better than DMR Carbine

[civic wave]

Seems about correct

[tardy ingot]

hmm

[soft crater]

I imagine just 1 pen?

[native sun]

Sure

[civic wave]

It should have 5 pen and a 0.6s reload I think

[soft crater]

[ocean spindle]

would pulling the pen out the autopistol just make it absolute trash like it was before all the buffs or just make it ok

cause with its role i'm genuinely not so sure

[tiny wyvern]

Depends on what you want out of it

it'll be an auto that still does stagger more than damage

Just less effective against large crowds that are crowded

[muted creek]

frens what settings should i use on GTFO

medium settings as stated on the storepage?

[tardy ingot]

just dont forget to increase your fov from the stupid base 55 to smth like 80 to 100
turning off motion blurr

turn down first person intertia and camera shake aswell

[soft crater]

Aight. FOV > 179

[ocean spindle]

graphical settings apart from shadow quality don't matter so

[ocean spindle]

whatevs one want

gtfo looks good in all of them anyway

[muted creek]

so basically i change settings to medium > FOV to 80

[tardy ingot]

i definetly didnt make a short on settings to change

[muted creek]

got it

[keen seal]

me when I definitely have motion blur off

[narrow niche]

self promotion

smh

[muted creek]

btw fren

[ocean spindle]

you can also change up first person inertia which is pretty useful to run while having ur flashlight on

[muted creek]

is it really that long run for higher rundowns?

[ocean spindle]

cause it doesn't make it go to the corner

[muted creek]

WAIT HOW

[narrow niche]

runs can take up to like

[muted creek]

when im running

[narrow niche]

2? hours?

[muted creek]

my eyes is like looking on the flashlight

when holding a gun

[muted creek]

damn

[ocean spindle]

alsooo depends on the level, higher difficulty doesn't mean longer runs but the very longest are like 2 hours on a slowish pace

[digital mural]

Most levels take 1 hour or 1 hour and a half
In an average run

[narrow niche]

^

[muted creek]

i ask simply yesterday i join randoms on R5 like

reactor restart thingy

and my gudness

[narrow niche]

nah most levels are shorter than that

[ocean spindle]

that's a pretty long level

[muted creek]

i cant imagine me and my fren doing it

[digital mural]

High tier runs on average

[ocean spindle]

depends still in my opinion

[muted creek]

btw~ i keep seeing people using hell pistol

is that pistol actaully good????

[digital mural]

Yeah its good

Good stagger

[ocean spindle]

it be !

[digital mural]

Decent dmg

Really good

[muted creek]

so two hits dead?

[digital mural]

S tier gun

[halcyon current]

most weapons are good tbh

[digital mural]

No?

[muted creek]

what are your guns

u may recommend

mostly for special weapons too!

[tiny wyvern]

Define recommend

[muted creek]

more into

[ocean spindle]

uh no autopistol it's 1.5 dmg which means like 10 bullets for a striker

[narrow niche]

hel shotty hel revo rn are really good

[muted creek]

good damage output

and economical

[digital mural]

Hel shotgun, carbine, sawed off, Hel PP, machine pistol
Burst cannon, Hel rifle, Hel gun, scatter, shotgun, combat shotgun, high cal

[narrow niche]

sawed off, carbine, dmr, hel autopiss are good rn

[tiny wyvern]

Oh also @muted creek tune your setting to how much ram you have
That way your pc doesn't cry when you play this game

Also look out for overheating

[muted creek]

16

[narrow niche]

@tardy ingot you have a weapon guide dont you?

[muted creek]

drr4

[muted creek]

ya my gpu goes around 80 with cooler off

[ocean spindle]

they have like 3 4 videos on gun tierlists

[tiny wyvern]

16 is fine with medium, you can watch Void's guide on how to tune settings

[ocean spindle]

yes

[tiny wyvern]

I'll bring it up for you if you want to

[narrow niche]

not the same

[muted creek]

can u link me?

[tiny wyvern]

Sure give me a sec

[muted creek]

me bad on navigating

[muted creek]

special weapon?

[tardy ingot]

weapon recommendations for beginners and general tierlists n stuff

i want to do an actual weapon guide

[muted creek]

waiting ffor the video link~

[ocean spindle]

special weapons are really specialized for the most part so all of them have some sort of use
only ones that u could like not use are sniper and short rifle, the rest are from usable, so specialized to very flexible

[muted creek]

[tiny wyvern]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tCTLBKtvA4g&t=79s
Optimization guide

[muted creek]

tq

its like

[digital mural]

Check @tardy ingot profile and click in his YouTube channel

[muted creek]

inside the game there are parts that

[narrow niche]

scatter, hel gun, hel rifle, burst cannon, combat shotgun, shotgun, hcp

[digital mural]

Theres a lot of tutorials

[muted creek]

very lagy

[narrow niche]

lame when weapon guide

[muted creek]

btw fren

is 3050 a highend ?

[halcyon current]

Honestly imo as long as you're not using burst pistol/short rifle you should be fine.

[muted creek]

or its like medium rig

[halcyon current]

Just find something you like

[muted creek]

im watching the guide rn

[narrow niche]

not rn

[muted creek]

idk which one to pick

[muted creek]

so its medium rig?

[tardy ingot]

i mean its not rly a guide
but for settings
https://youtube.com/shorts/ZN-TmHuI1cQ?si=sdgLchEwgHhcvu80

[muted creek]

for me to know what video guide i follow

[digital mural]

Me with a 1650 running 100 FPS on medium graphics

[narrow niche]

hmmm

[ocean spindle]

i ran gtfo in a laptop so

[halcyon current]

Me continously buying 2080tis for cheap because they're still good cards

[ocean spindle]

it was 8 fps but it was a 10 11 year old laptop

[narrow niche]

if its not running well just lower it

:P

[tiny wyvern]

medium should be fine

low is potato pc

[halcyon current]

@muted creek if you're american you can find 2080tis on Ebay/Amazon for like ~300ish dollars if you're lucky and ~400 if you're not.

[tiny wyvern]

or if you have like 4gb vram

Which... I have seen

[muted creek]

too bad im asian

[halcyon current]

Rip, unsure then, sorry

[muted creek]

aight

[muted creek]

ya its 4gb vram

im just playing on laptop

i pick wrong one i must pick 3080 instead

[muted creek]

it cost around 200 here or lower

[halcyon current]

I'm honestly not sure what your currency would be equivalent to USD but I really like my 2080ti still

Good cards

Cheaper then most new cards if you're okay with refurbished stuff

[narrow niche]

lmao someones trying to sell a 2080ti for $975 usd

crazy

[tiny wyvern]

@floral acorn What settings should 4gb vram aim for?
Any ideas (if you're avaliable of course)

[halcyon current]

I just got another one for $300 tbh

Couldn't pass that deal up

[narrow niche]

mmm

[halcyon current]

2080ti for 300 dolla felt like a robbery lmao

[narrow niche]

i mean

there are a bunch just under 300 rn

it is ebay though

so

:P

[halcyon current]

Where at? Everywhere I was looking had em for $350-500 normally

I'm ngl under 300 on ebay I get a little sketched

[narrow niche]

real

[halcyon current]

But like, if it works it works

Ik you can find em for 200 on mercari but you normally gotta resodder the chipset on em

[narrow niche]

hm

well im not really looking to buy a new graphics card anyways

[digital mural]

:3

[narrow niche]

id buy you~

:3