gtfo-related-questions

[hidden ridge]

Personally I think 2 is easier and it's how I did it.

1 is probably way faster though.

So it depends on what you/your team wants to do

Secondary is ALWAYS unlocked when finishing Main so it doesn't matter in the equation.

[ocean spindle]

wait fog doesnt rise on 3rd cell?

[hidden ridge]

Since after plugging the needed cells in the gen cluster, whatever "hazard" (fog or error) you have chosen goes away.

[ocean spindle]

:O

i forgot

omg

[tardy ingot]

?
It does

[ocean spindle]

wait

what

[tardy ingot]

3rd cell ovl > 5th cell full walk > 5th cell

in difficulty

im talking about 5th cell but you get bulkhead key n all being harder than the typical 5th cell overload strat

[weary mesa]

Fog is slower because it’s intended to get into overload on3/4

[ocean spindle]

ah no strats usually u go in ov asap then just do alarm on 5th cell

[hidden ridge]

Of course, indipendently from what you choose, clear the Overload bulkhead first zone BEFORE anything else

[ocean spindle]

but like 3rd cell ov then its 1% hp but with an error on top

instead of 5th cell 1% hp without error

[hidden ridge]

yes that's obvious

I like to think that doing it with fog is an unintended mechanic they kept

[waxen cipher]

Wait so i used the first/ second cell for unlocking to get bulkhead key

Then what?

[hidden ridge]

Then go to the other zone?

[waxen cipher]

Ok

[hidden ridge]

North (IIRC) has bulkhead control

and it's where you choose

regardless, if you want to do PE, unlock Overload and clear as much as you can of it before starting error

[tardy ingot]

You generally do it once youve plugged 3/4 cell so you have no fog and the alarm prior to it is easier (1 sided spawns)

[tardy ingot]

Its not 1% since you only get infected in the middle of the alarm at best

[ocean spindle]

thats very confusing why didnt u start on 'fog rises slower so the error its not at 1 hp' ksmdkm

qwq

[tardy ingot]

???

[ocean spindle]

but well i think i get it now

[tardy ingot]

Most people dont use 3rd/4th cell for overload alarm since the error is a pain for them

[waxen cipher]

What alarm is the error alarm

[hidden ridge]

it's shitters normal with a chance of flyiers IIRC

[tardy ingot]

play it

[ocean spindle]

dont think baguette knows the level

[tardy ingot]

youll learn it

[waxen cipher]

I don’t know it well

[tardy ingot]

if you rly wanna know how to play it just check scalers guide prob

[waxen cipher]

I’ve only done it once

Or twice

I think

[ocean spindle]

it a fun level :D

wish i could play it :[

[waxen cipher]

We’re a bit of the way through

[lone mortar]

The second 3rd init filtration

You typically want to have the small door towards the blood door you went through foamed and mined

Then you leave the small door behind near the init terminal so any stragglers or error would spawn there path in that long way in

[waxen cipher]

Second what

[waxen cipher]

The second one ?

Ohh

Ik what u mean

Ok

[lone mortar]

Well its the 3rd

If you count the first at the start

Its like a back and forth big red/full team

[waxen cipher]

Oh yeah that one

We did that

[lone mortar]

But you can also have some1 brave enough to spawn cap the whole error by waking up

[waxen cipher]

Lmao

We killed everything in overload

[lone mortar]

Its 4 charger scouts with a literal American foot ball team of 6foot chargers

[waxen cipher]

We cleared it

The area

[lone mortar]

Silent?

Or boom boom bang bang

[waxen cipher]

Boom boom bang bang

[lone mortar]

Sounds about right

U on rn?

Seems like it on the timer

Average run for the level

[waxen cipher]

Yeah uh we’re gonna do the last two cells and then go to overload and finish up

[lone mortar]

I mean if you stick to the level like normally u would have 1 spare in main and 1 in overdload

[waxen cipher]

Yeah we’re gonna put in one cell and then finish overload and grab that cell and come back

[lone mortar]

Yeah

Have fun on

[ocean spindle]

sec is so good

:3

[waxen cipher]

Is secondary automatically opened?

[lone mortar]

After main completion yes

Sit back and enjoy

[waxen cipher]

Ok

[lone mortar]

Im kidding dont

Unless youre ok with

[waxen cipher]

Ik it’s a teleport and we run

[ocean spindle]

:3

[lone mortar]

But any levels with checkpointing is crazy bugged

[waxen cipher]

Rip

[lone mortar]

Just dont go down

Easy

[waxen cipher]

Kk

[ocean spindle]

never die smh

it's so simple

[lone mortar]

Also awsome art for pfps

[waxen cipher]

Thanks

[waxen cipher]

@ocean spindle @lone mortar update

we failed the level

[lone mortar]

Huh

[waxen cipher]

need a better strat

:c

[lone mortar]

What was the load out?

[waxen cipher]

bio cfoam mine sentry

[lone mortar]

Weapons tho

[waxen cipher]

i had hel shotty and hi cal

someone else had hel revo with scatter

heavy smg with shotgun

and

carbine? with hi cal?

[civic wave]

Reasonable loadouts

No reason to value scatter highly on that mission really though

[waxen cipher]

hm

probably eyah

[hard nexus]

Should have gone rifle rifle

[waxen cipher]

sad

[dry pumice]

Uhm

[waxen cipher]

i just wanna get it done

oh well

time to do other things

[dry pumice]

This is R7E1, right?

[lone mortar]

Did you fumble at any filtration tho

[lone mortar]

C2

[civic wave]

Equip yourself with long gun and short rifle

[waxen cipher]

no

[dry pumice]

Oh, c2.

[lone mortar]

Or did yall got jumped by sleeping mom

[waxen cipher]

imma just use hel revo and rifle from now on

[waxen cipher]

no we got jumped by a buncha chargers

[dry pumice]

Point still fucking stands, what do you need the mine deployer for?

[lone mortar]

Wait what

Didnt yall clear the whole overload?

[dry pumice]

Oh actually, the secondary... Alright, fine.

[waxen cipher]

we did it until the overload cell door

we cleared the cell door

[lone mortar]

You dont need to really

[waxen cipher]

got the first osip

and died

was that the wrong thing to do

[dry pumice]

How and why.

[lone mortar]

Oh so you just clear the first section of overload

[waxen cipher]

yeah

[waxen cipher]

i didn't know that

[lone mortar]

Yeah the infection comes in makes overload alot more tedious

[hard nexus]

Dying was the wrong thing to do yes

[waxen cipher]

yeah no shit

[waxen cipher]

wish i had infection resist

[lone mortar]

Chill

[hard nexus]

Just dive bro loooool

[lone mortar]

Youre not helping

[dry pumice]

I still dont understand, what killed you

[lone mortar]

Charger in fog

[waxen cipher]

charger in fog

[dry pumice]

And

[waxen cipher]

yeah that's hit

it

[lone mortar]

The only cleared the class VI flyers room

[waxen cipher]

yeah

[dry pumice]

Did you wake him up or what

[lone mortar]

Take a guess

[waxen cipher]

yeah we woke it up cus we didn't have the health to actually do the room

[lone mortar]

[waxen cipher]

are u slow

[lone mortar]

Woah

[waxen cipher]

bro

[lone mortar]

No bad wording artek

[civic furnace]

lets be kind :3

[waxen cipher]

how else would i have died

[lone mortar]

Thats a no no

[waxen cipher]

fine

but

they're asking the most obvious questions

i die to charger

how?

woke them up

duh

[lone mortar]

Thats not it but

Slow down lol

[tardy ingot]

did you die during 5/6th cell

or 3/4?

[dry pumice]

I am slow because I'm at work.

[lone mortar]

Last cell

[dry pumice]

Anyway can't help with that, I technically cheesed it, so...

[waxen cipher]

5/6

why are there two people with the same pfp

[tardy ingot]

and you survived the flyer alarm

[waxen cipher]

yeah

[tardy ingot]

copying me for a joke

[lone mortar]

Im eva with no brim

[waxen cipher]

i see

[waxen cipher]

got it

brim or brain

[lone mortar]

Yanke with no brim

That eva over there has irl stuff that he wont be here next month

Lololo

[tardy ingot]

did you guys lack ammo? Cuz if not just pull 1st room in overload, then see if you can sneak through 2nd one (right door) into 3rd room.

3rd room has terminal. Ping cell, get cell and plug it

Finish overload once you got fog down

[tardy ingot]

Eh once i get my monitor ill be available

Just less so

[waxen cipher]

no we didn't lack ammo

[lone mortar]

Nah focus on it is better

[waxen cipher]

we lacked health

and tool

mostly tool

[lone mortar]

Infections a bitch ik

[waxen cipher]

1% health

[tardy ingot]

pull rooms -> boom boom bam bam

[lone mortar]

Well lets put them at pubs

Are pubs good at dodging ?

Take a guess

[tardy ingot]

big brain play is, shoot each other before pulling so everyone has more than 1%

or just overheal with meds, or throw foggies

[dry pumice]

I'm honestly terrified of beating that overload legit

[waxen cipher]

dodging?

[dry pumice]

Infinite fog and spitters is a bullshit cheap combo and everyone here knows it.

[lone mortar]

What did you even cheese artek

[waxen cipher]

like dodging bullets or dodging monsties

[tardy ingot]

Dodge what :|

its like 10 enemies max per room. Scout triggers and being surprised by smth is the danger

But bio tracker plaxer go brrr

[lone mortar]

Well lets say bbc tounges are kinda 60/40

[dry pumice]

Checkpoint (used for legit reasons) removed fog after progressing main.

[lone mortar]

And i always see pubs get hit by those

[tardy ingot]

You play it fast so the infection doesnt rly matter tbh

[lone mortar]

Oh right

Like B3

[waxen cipher]

uhuh

[lone mortar]

Hey now

Im not saying ur not good at dodging

[waxen cipher]

no i meant like "ok..."

was waiting for more elaborate

was confus

[lone mortar]

Im just simulating it in pub sentences

[waxen cipher]

i got hit by the bbc tongue when the door was closing

:c

[lone mortar]

Sniped

[waxen cipher]

yep

[lone mortar]

I got hit by a tank 30m away in E2

[tardy ingot]

You can dodge tounges

[waxen cipher]

what thehfuck

that doesn't

what

[waxen cipher]

i know

[tardy ingot]

nothing more to it

[waxen cipher]

but it's hard to dodge it when the door was supposedly closing

[tardy ingot]

that kaiser is saying

[lone mortar]

Ye

Relating to your sad play

[tardy ingot]

And team didnt insta revive? :(

[lone mortar]

Nothing to it

[waxen cipher]

there was... mine

and

bbcs

against the door

[dry pumice]

Tldr can't help you, just keep bashing your head against the wall. Maybe bring more turrets and just ambush the room outside with a prepared position.

[waxen cipher]

did i just get bullshitted by the game

[dry pumice]

Can't guarantee that won't bankrupt your ammo supply.

[waxen cipher]

is that the entire reason we lost

no we were full on ammo

rlly high on it

[dry pumice]

Could be, that is in character for GTFO.

[waxen cipher]

we still had a 4 use left

[fair pendant]

hello anyone knows the code for current r8a2 terminal?

[waxen cipher]

there's a website for it

[waxen cipher]

well the door was closing

and he hit me

so i'm unsure

[dry pumice]

They can do that

[lone mortar]

Go on #gtfo-spoiler-chat

[waxen cipher]

alright well i just hope that the next time i close the door the game doesn't pull bullshit on me 👍

[lone mortar]

Website for the code is there

[lone mortar]

Invite artek

Artek is a medallion for you to not die at any point of the game

[fair pendant]

sure

[tardy ingot]

Shoot
and dont get into a position where you can just get licked

[tardy ingot]

not rly no

[lone mortar]

Dude

[tardy ingot]

Use guns more than tool if you are rly low on tool tbh

[lone mortar]

Youre saying that to artek?

Lol

[waxen cipher]

ok...

[waxen cipher]

i died to the bbc and everything fell apart from there

[tardy ingot]

Was closing

not closed (where it can still hit if you are client with enough lag)

If you get licked through a closed door (not one that just closed) then you got bsed

[lone mortar]

Artek is the best support gunner youll ever find lmao

Nothing really gets through him when hes perfectly planted with PR

[tardy ingot]

1 BBC shows up

[waxen cipher]

oh

ok

[waxen cipher]

do bbcs have more health than moms

[tardy ingot]

no

[lone mortar]

Yea nightmares do be smashing artek down baddd bro

[tardy ingot]

120 vs 1000(200 effective)

[lone mortar]

Man i miss playing with artek

[waxen cipher]

wait so can't he just magdump into the bbc and it'll die

[lone mortar]

He uses PR

[waxen cipher]

i had a stroke reading this

[waxen cipher]

yeah precision rifle

can't he just magdump into it

i magdumped into a mom and it almost died

[tardy ingot]

F it happens and then team falls apart

i obviously dont know the whole situation.
But sounds like not realizing enemy is close (and killing/staggering them), closing door too late
(Not sticking insta revive by team is also sadge)

or just dont pull that room (generally id only do that if its REALLY bad)

• med up, fog repeller down, etc (tho only overheal wouldve helped vs a bbc snipin u)

[lone mortar]

And a whole mag towards one of them in a wave is…?

[waxen cipher]

we ran outta med

[waxen cipher]

oh

true

ur right

[lone mortar]

Lol

Thats why he da best support in various way

[waxen cipher]

nothing will express how angry and sad and disappointed i am about this run

a guy left halfway through

another guy joined

[tardy ingot]

Yes, but 9 shots to kill is :^ ) out of 10

you can 12 shot mag mom due to having extra prec. Multi

[waxen cipher]

and he left the last of the way through too

[lone mortar]

My man held on to bullpup and he aint never let it go cause hes just awsome with it

[waxen cipher]

oh

ok

[tardy ingot]

Artek plays anti-meta

[dry pumice]

R7C2 is a fairly depressing level. But exclusively because of overload. Main and secondary are neat, but overload is just all the worst things thrown together.

[lone mortar]

But it works tho

Im not lying

He does cook

[waxen cipher]

overload makes me want to go home and never touch R7C2 again

but i need the completion

agony

time to pdo physics

do

[tardy ingot]

overload isnt that bad tbh

just has weird stealth design (good for a first run, bruh for replays)

imagine if you were forced to take 3/4th cell and instead had no scouts

[dry pumice]

Perfectly reasonable reaction.

[tardy ingot]

Mostly everything works

[lone mortar]

Wana do R8D2 again some timr artek

[tardy ingot]

you can play only revo on r3d1 and win

[waxen cipher]

ping me when u guys do

[lone mortar]

Now thats just you

[waxen cipher]

i need that and then E2

[tardy ingot]

nah

[dry pumice]

Maybe one day, but the gamer duty queue is full right now.

[lone mortar]

I will murder you and your stand point of looking at pubs as if their on ur level

Even if its simple

It is a learning curve in game

[dry pumice]

Uh. Wording. Bot mod might not like that.

[tardy ingot]

???

[lone mortar]

Well it deletes what it dont like

[lone mortar]

[tardy ingot]

ive never said revo only is smth for pubs

i said that a lot of shit is viable/doable

[lone mortar]

Also artek

Do you have helldivers?

[dry pumice]

I do not.

There's a fomo event thing going in in DOTA on top of everything else, so I'm probably not buying any new games for the next 3-4 years.

[lone mortar]

I was like oh yeah 3-4 weeks

But no

Blud really said 3-4 years lmao

[tardy ingot]

Artek waiting on gtfo 2

or stfu*

[lone mortar]

Artek and his wall of text moving into DoW menacingly

[dry pumice]

Gtfo might unironically be the last game I bought. And it's purely circumstancial.

[lone mortar]

Time for him to destroy DoW lore channel

[lone mortar]

Money well spent am i right?

[dry pumice]

(Dinkleberg.jpg)
Once it has any

[lone mortar]

Soon

As in 2027

Gtfo modders made R9

[dry pumice]

For real though, this is all purely because of roaches in my head

[lone mortar]

Ppl actually comes back to gtfo and voice character

[lone mortar]

I see

So this is not the normal you

But a more perplexed version

[tardy ingot]

Dow server is…

i dont wish artek to have to type on there lol

[lone mortar]

It is very perplexing

[lone mortar]

My name is literally den of warpgate

Im down baaaad for new game lol

[tardy ingot]

honestly im still surprised they didnt just make this the 10C server and have both games on here

more people active

less servers to manage

[dry pumice]

Basically I just need to give up on a certain thing that throws wrenches in all of my gears and accept that I'm but a humble gamer playing games in a vacuum of his own room, forever and ever.

[lone mortar]

Well

What happens when i get banned here

[dry pumice]

I'm already there and it's hilarious.

[lone mortar]

I cant even lfg for DoW?

[tardy ingot]

yea

[lone mortar]

Cmon eva

[dry pumice]

Not only is the server basically dead because there's nothing to work with - but all the banned individuals use it as a venting space.

[tardy ingot]

just dont get banned

its not hard

[lone mortar]

[tardy ingot]

😄

[tardy ingot]

No like legit

ive only ever gotten 1 warning and its been for a good reason where i heavily overstept lol

idk why people think its funny being banned n all

[lone mortar]

Im gonna replace you for the duration of your intership btw

[tardy ingot]

im still here lol

[lone mortar]

Well yeah its not a laughing matter

[dry pumice]

It's just that part of human psyche wanting to stick it up to the big man (read: any form of authority at all).

[lone mortar]

But it is funni to make fun of at banned ppl

Like rieman

Frosty isnt the same without him

@frail heart do you miss him frosty

[dry pumice]

Not gonna lie, I had ideas of going out in blaze of banned glory myself.

[lone mortar]

Well if you gotta end it

You gotta end it with style

[frail heart]

Yes

[dry pumice]

To be fair its not even hard, so...

[lone mortar]

What do you do now when hes gone

[frail heart]

jork it

[lone mortar]

He loved you so much he fight sam fisher to get to you

[dry pumice]

Until then I'm the only living spear saint around here

[lone mortar]

Ayo

[lone mortar]

I like how he literally point at me for boosting server

[dry pumice]

Hoo

[lone mortar]

Oh wait you werent there when rieman

Wrong reply artek

[frail heart]

Pretty sure thats a sin in itself

[lone mortar]

Hey

He is veteran

He cook good

[frail heart]

dont care

[lone mortar]

Wdym dont care

[frail heart]

if you werent playing from day 1 you arent a vet

and you are a noob

with 2 hours

[lone mortar]

Ughhhh youre so needy of numbers frosty

This is why rieman left

You didnt let him hit on you

[frail heart]

I gave him every opening possible

[lone mortar]

No you didnt lol

[frail heart]

I FUCKIN WROTE HIM A LOVE LETTER

AND HE IGNORED ME

IM THE ONE GRIEVING HERE

[lone mortar]

WHERE

BRO YOU ARE ON MAD WEED

THE GUY NEVER SAID ANYTHING ABOUT A LOVE LETTER

[unreal gazelle]

i didn't let him hit on me either, but we all know how far that got

it is not a good metric to use

[lone mortar]

Well looking at you

…

Its not possible

[unreal gazelle]

what?

[lone mortar]

Nothing

[lone mortar]

Did you give him a hand note or

[frail heart]

#gtfo-chat message

[lone mortar]

Dang i need to see this

[frail heart]

YOU LITERALLY RESPONDED

[lone mortar]

Oh yeah right i wasnt reading it

Ffs

I forgor frosty

Im sorry

I doubted your love

Im such a bad friend

[frail heart]

Friend is a stretch

Acquaintance is more appropriate

[lone mortar]

Oh yeah right

You did shoot me on every occasion

And also did troll every R8E1

[upper ginkgo]

acquaintance zoned..

[craggy pier]

hi guys

[frail heart]

hello kitty

[craggy pier]

[frail heart]

how are you

[craggy pier]

good

[sage pulsar]

why do I see r8e2 spam the past 2 weeks

[frail heart]

because its a good level

[narrow niche]

^

[weary mesa]

Without cfoam and scattergun it’s a good level

[narrow niche]

Hm

[lofty mason]

Does hel rife good

[tardy ingot]

What

[lofty mason]

Hel rifle

[tardy ingot]

yea but what does hel rifle do what good?

is it good? Yes

[lofty mason]

Well if you compare it with sniper

[tardy ingot]

sniper is pretty awful ngl

[lofty mason]

Oh @@

[tardy ingot]

sniper is better for hybrids. And for some specific enemies (for which hel rifle is kinda not meant to be good for)

Vs giants, hel rifle isnt as simple as sniper (1 hs = 1 kill) but due to penetration you just line up multiple and go for bodyshots

[livid stone]

how do you run this game in dx11

[lofty mason]

Oh so that is what overpenetraion does

[ocean spindle]

HEL weaponry overpenetrates yes

only those

[lofty mason]

So how you maximize the benefit of overpenetrates

[ocean spindle]

you line up enemies

[unreal gazelle]

you wait for enemies to line up in a straight line and shoot them

or you strafe to align enemies

[ocean spindle]

HEL weaponry doesnt need u to necessarily get 2 kills every single time for them to be good so

[lofty mason]

Seem hard for the hel shotgun @@

[ocean spindle]

hel shottie u just gotta bunch em up

get 4 5 and u will hit em all with acouple shots

hel shotties just made for u to shoot bunches of enemies together and kill em together

[lofty mason]

Oh sound like you have to kite them and gather them

[ocean spindle]

u can just take a shot, stagger, bunch em up slowly and then unload

and sometimes they already come bunched up

[lofty mason]

So does it work good with the blood door or you just die too fast by the hybrid

[tardy ingot]

you mine blood doors generally

but on small blood doors 2+ hel shotguns basically do the same as a mine

[ocean spindle]

on big ones if u position urself good they work wonders too

its a game of 4 theres no way someone doesnt focus the hybrid

[lofty mason]

Rip those who solo

[tardy ingot]

if you rly struggle with blood doors as solo, you can take mines

theres also explosive tripmines in some zones in some levels

or just shoot them up safely

[blazing grove]

not super in touch with the game and just started doing the alt rundowns. Have i gotten better or do the alt rundowns feel easier then the og?

[narrow niche]

In some ways yea

[blazing grove]

good to know. thought i was going crazy

[upper ginkgo]

also helps that your tools actually work

and most guns have been buffed to shit

[narrow niche]

^

case in point: scattergun

[ocean spindle]

skoiterweapon

and heaven8chambergun

[its technically 6 but funny]

[jaunty tapir]

Does trip damage apply to one use mines?

[livid stone]

It applies to any trips

[frail heart]

i love my cfoam trip mine damage

[sage pulsar]

was the damage per shot on the combat shotty ever touched? it did get more ammo

[tardy ingot]

Long ago iirc

[waxen cipher]

Does cfoam portion affect that

[frail heart]

no

[slim kayak]

Is it recommended to do the secondary missions or the main first? Or does it depend on the mission

[past mesa]

It depends on the mission some level you have to do main first sometimes you have to do secondary first

The best thing to do is check where you bulkhead keys are

And try to avoid events that will start Perma alarms

[minor fractal]

R3 and R5 iirc.
4 -> 4.4 -> 5 per pellet

[lofty mason]

What are you guys opinion about the best shotgun and the better machine gun

[jaunty tapir]

Situational. I think the only "bad" shogun is the Slug, with Combat probably coming after that.

Arbalist is better at killing while the Veruta can stagger which can let others finish them off. I like them both and just pick whatever i feel like if i want a machine gun

[craggy pier]

Pick the gun that goes pew pew pew

[jaunty tapir]

Ive only got ~300 hours so perhaps someone with more experience may have different opinions

Hel Shotgun is great, Buckland pump is awesome for killing bigs

[craggy pier]

[upper ginkgo]

everybody ridicule this guy

[jaunty tapir]

Feel free to correct me. Im happy to learn

[craggy pier]

combat shotgun is very good

unless it got nerfed while i was away, it has stupidly good ammo economy

[jaunty tapir]

I suppose i just havnt found a reason to bring it. Or if someone else already has it and another gun would help fill out.

[craggy pier]

Slug is pretty bad. Choke is very situational and almost always outshined by other options. The rest of the shotguns range between good and broken OP (hel shotgun and scatter).

[unreal gazelle]

if you want a demonstration of what the combat shotgun is great at, watch some solo speedrun

like any fast time on an A tier solo speedrun uses combat shotgun for a reason

[jaunty tapir]

Love the choke mod though. So much fun with that long ass range

[jaunty tapir]

I believe you, but solo is so much different.

[hidden ridge]

22-23 shells per ammo refill IIRC

[jaunty tapir]

wow

I knew it was high but dang

[hidden ridge]

It's just busted on that alone, really

[craggy pier]

im a regular shotgun enjoyer

[hidden ridge]

I rarely pick it up because I dont like it

And I end up using BC or even just old shotgun more

[jaunty tapir]

I do feel like its the least fun shotgun to use

[ocean spindle]

i think backwards about choke, it's very general and works almost always but it's still shunned when u need specifics

[craggy pier]

well it's competing with a bunch of other things for the 30 damage breakpoint, and all the other options kill more stuff per mag, except sawed off which still reloads way faster, the only thing I see it dominating the other options in is killing cscouts from the front, which is very situationally required

[ocean spindle]

sawed offs not really it's better part considerin chokemod kills 14 meters afar more than sawed off
on specials i think it's most big competitor its high cal cause of its range and how similar they can be but both are kinda

overshadowed by hel rifle

every 30 dmg special is tbh

[sturdy glen]

do we count scattergun as a shotgun

because it is by definition but its like not even remotely similar by comparison

[craggy pier]

I do

[sturdy glen]

scattergun > hel shotgun > combat shotgun > sawed off > shotgun > choke > slug

[craggy pier]

its more like

scattergun > hel shotgun >> combat shotgun > sawed off > shotgun >>> choke > slug

[sturdy glen]

yea kinda

after hel shotgun its like

"you probably dont ever need to take these" (besides REALLY niche cases for sawed off or pure ammo efficiency with cshotty)

and then like

shotgun choke and slug are all "you actually never have a reason to take these"

[craggy pier]

I like shotgun in solo, and then I got super comfortable using it and started taking it on teams

[frail heart]

shotgun in solo is goated

[sturdy glen]

shotgun as host is pretty good but I dont think its better than cshotty, just easier

(for solo)

[frail heart]

yeah fair

[craggy pier]

I agree with that completely

I also have the cheat mod to make deadbodies not block shots as client

[sturdy glen]

yeah it does actually matter quite a lot

unfortunately

[craggy pier]

yeah

[frail heart]

kinda ass

[narrow niche]

combat shotty bad?

confirmed?

[narrow niche]

hacker smh

[digital mural]

https://tenor.com/view/little-big-planet-what-da-hell-little-big-planet-what-ayo-what-gif-13768843195184919620

[narrow niche]

:3

i love misinfo

my favorite meal

[digital mural]

all shotguns are good (except slug)

they all feel good and serve some sort of purpose

[jaunty tapir]

I learned some facts that helped me understand it in a broader perspective that changed my mind on it. I still think its the least fun shotgun to use though. But thats fine

[narrow niche]

^

except slug

i know you already said that

anyways

[narrow niche]

meh

[jaunty tapir]

So why exactly is Slug bad? I have a general sense but couldnt tell ya really

[narrow niche]

preference different

i guess i have to hate you now

[digital mural]

bad dmg, bad range, slow fire rate

[narrow niche]

^

and the ammo isnt good

[digital mural]

HORRIBLE damage fall off

[narrow niche]

^^^

[ocean spindle]

it doesn't really have bad dmg tbh
it has issues but i think ar it's worse

[narrow niche]

also if you want a shotgun for giants just use sawed off or hel shotty

[ocean spindle]

it's at least 6 kills within range

[jaunty tapir]

Ok so its just worse than the choke mod in nearly every way

[narrow niche]

within range is

not much

[narrow niche]

its a main

[digital mural]

coke mod is pretty damn good

[narrow niche]

choke is a special

[narrow niche]

i love doing coke

but i could do-

sorry

[digital mural]

also main and special
you cant compare them

[narrow niche]

terrible

[ocean spindle]

as a main is, every main is worse than a special apart from hel shotgun

[narrow niche]

lyt

[jaunty tapir]

https://i.imgur.com/Lh8XRLH.png 6m drop off damn

[narrow niche]

helpp?

doesnt really have an

analogous special

[ocean spindle]

not having a special counterpart doesn't mean it's on the same level tho

[narrow niche]

fair

[jaunty tapir]

true

[digital mural]

true

[narrow niche]

true

[ocean spindle]

real

[narrow niche]

embed fail

death

[ocean spindle]

:[

[narrow niche]

me

im dying

rn

ong

[digital mural]

honestly

the only bad gun

in GTFO

is the sniper

[narrow niche]

short rifle

[ocean spindle]

so based

[ocean spindle]

it's usable

[digital mural]

SR isnt that bad (funny stagger)

[ocean spindle]

underpowered but usable

[narrow niche]

so is sniper

technically

[ocean spindle]

sniper is borderline unusable depending on the level

unless u apply kiting or something

[digital mural]

sniper vs 15 strikers

uwu

[ocean spindle]

sniper vs 3 bigs
even short rifle does better if u click well

[jaunty tapir]

is there anything the Hel Rifle cant do that the Sniper can?

[ocean spindle]

it'll eat ur ammo but does better

[ocean spindle]

oneshot bigs

they are built for different things

[narrow niche]

theyre different guns

[ocean spindle]

ones a 30 dmg weapon for d smalls and bigs and chargers
the other is a 40 dmg high precision giant killer

not same purpose

[narrow niche]

^

much worse precision on the hel rifle

[ocean spindle]

sniper is more comparable to scattergun and it comes out losing SO much

[narrow niche]

like .7 or something stupid

[ocean spindle]

yeah

[narrow niche]

vs 2

[narrow niche]

the only thing it gets is range

thats it

it loses boss killing too

[jaunty tapir]

Can Hel Rifle head one shot Hybrids?

[narrow niche]

by a wide margin

no

[digital mural]

nope

[narrow niche]

i just told you

[ocean spindle]

nope

[narrow niche]

shit pres damage

[jaunty tapir]

I know you did but i dont know enough to put that into context. 🙂

[ocean spindle]

basically it does next to nothing extra damage on headshots

[jaunty tapir]

Last time i took sniper was for a deep reactor just to pop hybrid heads

[ocean spindle]

it doesn't matter unless it's precisely a hybrid and even so hittin body it's better so u don't miss shots

[narrow niche]

this is for giants though

hybrids have a head multi of like

3?

2?

[ocean spindle]

think 3?

[narrow niche]

3

yea

[jaunty tapir]

wiki says 2

[narrow niche]

wait no

2

haha

slendi spreading misinfo

confirmed

[ocean spindle]

nope

[jaunty tapir]

Weak Points
Back (2x), Head (2x), Occiput (4x)

[ocean spindle]

2

[narrow niche]

@ mods

[ocean spindle]

:[

[narrow niche]

ban slendi

[ocean spindle]

nooo

nooooo

:c

[narrow niche]

</3

unbelievable

[digital mural]

turn the chair into a table

[narrow niche]

as a former friend

can i just say

[ocean spindle]

dies

[narrow niche]

im so disappointed by this behavior

[ocean spindle]

D:

[narrow niche]

how could you do this

[ocean spindle]

qwq smh

anyways

uh so hel rifle it's likeee 40 dmg then

on headshots

which very useless

[narrow niche]

lmao hybrids have 150 hp

4 headshots vs 5 bodyshots tbf

[digital mural]

honestly

[ocean spindle]

yeah it's better to just bodyshot

[digital mural]

its better to bodyshot

[ocean spindle]

hel rifle high cal are weapons that are super useless to hit headshots on

[narrow niche]

yea

not nearly enough reason

[frail heart]

How about

you just get good

like me

[digital mural]

ok guy who spends 15 hours on R8E2 every single day

[frail heart]

Erm actually

[narrow niche]

says guy who wont play pubs cause he sucks smh

[ocean spindle]

says the person who uh

uh

plays gtfo

:3

[narrow niche]

i do

yes

[frail heart]

damn you got me

[narrow niche]

</3

[ocean spindle]

hah laught at them

[narrow niche]

</3333

i knew it

slendi toxic

blocked + reported

[jaunty tapir]

Damn thats rough.

Do we have any hitbox illustrations?

[narrow niche]

the head is the head

no problem

[frail heart]

so no head?

[narrow niche]

thank me later

[narrow niche]

later

dumbass

[frail heart]

[jaunty tapir]

How big is the occiput?

[narrow niche]

technically if you hit 1 headshot you only need 3 bodyshots

btw

[frail heart]

wait i have a new emoji

[narrow niche]

the same as the head

you just have to hit it while behind the hybrid

[jaunty tapir]

Or so its just the entire back of the head?

[narrow niche]

it isnt a hitbox

[frail heart]

[narrow niche]

yo???

lets go

also ive seen that so many times

youre not new

[frail heart]

ok fuck you then

[narrow niche]

later

i said

[frail heart]

see

it works

[jaunty tapir]

occiput may not have been the best word to use, but at least its single.

[narrow niche]

?

[frail heart]

Occiput is just combining head and back

[narrow niche]

yea

[frail heart]

its not like its own multiplier

[narrow niche]

its also the anatomical term for the back of your head/skull

[digital mural]

i like IFO occiput

[narrow niche]

thats a weird kink

but ok

[frail heart]

[digital mural]

WHERE IS THE FOLDER

GOD

[frail heart]

Bro

[digital mural]

ima kidnap you into r8e2 for 20 hours tomorrow

[frail heart]

wait

[narrow niche]

frosty can you play rn

[jaunty tapir]

I know that but its more so the lower back portion of the skull.

[frail heart]

yes

[narrow niche]

if you can please send help

pleaes

</3

[digital mural]

what level?

i can play rn too

[frail heart]

i aint playin no damn r2d2

[narrow niche]

bitch

[frail heart]

even though i like the level

[narrow niche]

get it

fuck you

[frail heart]

i havent played it in like a year

[narrow niche]

:C

so mean

you leave me like this

wow

[frail heart]

L get stuck with pubs

[narrow niche]

i dont want to do this anymore

:C

youre mean

[frail heart]

You're*

[narrow niche]

does r8e1 work?

[frail heart]

yea

quick and easy

[narrow niche]

wiat fuck thats r5e1

lmao no

[frail heart]

LMAO

[narrow niche]

thats crazy

i aint doing no r5e1 pub

[frail heart]

Wouldnt be too bad prob

Idk tho never done it the normal way

[narrow niche]

hm

well

lets go then

bitch

https://discord.com/channels/408196129470152705/1234305257031335956

@digital mural

109775245148037869

[digital mural]

no fucking way

r5e1?

[narrow niche]

bitch get in

[digital mural]

ima pull scalers guide really quick

[narrow niche]

LMAO

[upper ginkgo]

ifo carry??

[narrow niche]

@frail heart

dont leave me again

mean ass

[narrow niche]

i could never

frosty really giving me abandonment issues

[upper ginkgo]

he's still heartbroken over riemann

give him time

[narrow niche]

wait

what happened

with riemann

[digital mural]

they were a couple

then riemann broke up with him

really sad

[narrow niche]

</3

noooo

cant believe this

its ok @frail heart

itl be ok

wow

</3

[frail heart]

mb hoe

[narrow niche]

unbelievable

bitch get in

thank you

ng~

sorry

[frail heart]

WAOHAHH

Im still a married (wo)man

[digital mural]

SEND THE CODE

FFS

[narrow niche]

I DID

[narrow niche]

BITCH

READ

@digital mural

also friend me on steam

mf

[narrow niche]

not for long

[jaunty tapir]

I suppose i was thinking it was more exact since "the back of the head" extends to the parietal bones

[narrow niche]

its not a hitbox

btw

[jaunty tapir]

oh?

[narrow niche]

its just the head hitbox + back multi

you know how back multi works right?

[jaunty tapir]

Ok so technically its not a hitbox

[narrow niche]

yea

no

it isnt

[jaunty tapir]

How exactly do back multis work. Im sure you could help me understand it better

[narrow niche]

dropping rn but uh

[jaunty tapir]

oh no worries then

[narrow niche]

its just the angle youre behind a sleeper

i think theres a graph of it somewhere

[jaunty tapir]

ill see if i can find it

[narrow niche]

animations dont change the direction of a sleeper until they finish

so you can get occu multi from the front of the head

technically

[jaunty tapir]

Found a diagram, and uh wow ok

[narrow niche]

yea

hf

enjoy

im gonna

go

[lone mortar]

yeah scurry back to ur den

[narrow niche]

Lyt

[lone mortar]

stfu

Creature

[narrow niche]

Ok

Bye

Ig

[soft crater]

[wraith kindle]

Hi! as of the current patch, what is the otpimal bot weaponry? (With 3 bots)

[ocean spindle]

still same as it ever was, burst rifle and machinegun; with 3 bots u coul risk a burst cannon for extra dmg if u feel u need it but take into account itll eat ammo a lil bit faster

melee doesnt matter as bots use default numbers no matter the weapon

and they still perfect with bio, good with sentry and iffy with foam/mines

[wraith kindle]

thank you for the quick answer :)

When you say machinegun, do you mean arbalist or veruta?

[hidden ridge]

veruta

[ocean spindle]

tbh both

but veruta usually just works a lil better

tho sometimes i give em arba just if theres, a lot of big enemies

[wraith kindle]

Thank you! :)

[hard nexus]

No

Thank you

[olive robin]

i dont get the hate on bot burst cannon

they dont run out of ammo all that much from my experience with it

and they do obliterate guys p often with it cause of the dmg and their single shot burst ability

[wet bear]

And players*

[ocean spindle]

yep

on duos its SO BaD

cause duos increase ff like 10x^82

[wet bear]

It's like give them PR, they will annihilate you eventually but slower than bc

[ocean spindle]

and also miss many shots

and be bad at giants

[wet bear]

Y e s

[olive robin]

This is true

I remember bots once took down me and my friend from behind then died themselves

Like damn ok thank you bots

[ocean spindle]

yeah on duos or three people runs always give em the usual

dont get fancy with shotties or hel revo or whatev else or ur gonna get shot

[wet bear]

Unless you want to play roulette and bet who will die first from bot in your team

[olive robin]

Real people give their 3 bots scatterguns

Turn GTFO into a bullet hell survival game

Give them the sawed off too so the bots have even more team damage potential

[olive robin]

What's your usual though

I usually have a bot with burst cannon and another with a carbine

[ocean spindle]

burst rifle machinegun

[olive robin]

Burst as in burst cannon or

[ocean spindle]

thats the accepted best loadout for em usually

[ocean spindle]

burst rifle

[olive robin]

Ohh

Just all bots with burst rifle and machine gun

Why burst rifle though?

[ocean spindle]

ah yes the rifle machinegun very usual weapon

[olive robin]

It fires single shot but fast

[ocean spindle]

it has very very high range, not enough dmg to nick u significantly, very high ammo so they never run out

and low recoil n stuff so they usually dont miss

plus its an ok bodyshot weapon

[olive robin]

20-85m??? Damn that IS a lot

[ocean spindle]

its a lot, and as bots shot on LOS instead of the effective range of their weaponry

big range is important

[olive robin]

Also bots ignore burst mechanics right

So it's just an assault rifle to them

[ocean spindle]

burst mechanic or not it works great

it really doesnt matter

unlike burst cannon

[olive robin]

Eh burst cannon works pretty well I find

Since they fire it like a semi automatic

[ocean spindle]

i prefer the mgs usually cause im the one to take care of bigs, ad i prefer not having any smols around, also just doesnt matter if they hit me at all and stagger if necessary

[olive robin]

That's fair

When me and my friend play we tend to crouch so the bots shoot over our heads

[ocean spindle]

yeah i just dont find it worth, i forget and i still feel like they nick me alot so

i go for the easy option

its just taste after all from what i hear both work wonders

just i like the ammo capacity and easeness of use of mg

[sage pulsar]

h o w t f

[ocean spindle]

bots burst cancel

or well thats what everyone says i never took the time to see lol

[olive robin]

Bots fire every gun like it's semi auto single shot

Even if it's a burst weapon

I also think they ignore charge up time on guns with it

[soft crater]

One such weapon being

Burst cannon

However you'll need to be on your toes with your positioning unless you want 40~ hp gone

Assuming you only get shot once.

[jaunty tapir]

is it possible to get enough melee boosters to one tap hybrids or giants?

[soft crater]

Yes

You'd need all 3 booster slots to be on the higher percentages of melee dmg to pull it off though

At least for Hammer

Spear would need less. I forget how much exactly

(A full charged hit to the back+Head)

[jaunty tapir]

cool

Whats the common meta opinion on the Drekker Pres Mod 556? Im having fun with it but want to know how it stacks up

[ocean spindle]

for hammer 100% for one tapping giants since u do half the hp of one in one hit
and for hybrids about a 95?
hammer does 80 on occi

[ocean spindle]

don't call em that just say the rifle

it's good tho

good range good dmg just very long reload but if u can manage it it's cool

[jaunty tapir]

Didnt feel like it had a long reload. Its shorter than the DMR

What do you mean best rifle?

[neon gust]

What the fuck is this

MANUFACTURER ALERT

[jaunty tapir]

I dono you tell me.

[neon gust]

WEEE WOOO

[ocean spindle]

typo

[neon gust]

[ocean spindle]

autocorrect on the phone

[jaunty tapir]

Everytime ive called it the precision rifle every thinks im talking about the special one

[ocean spindle]

just call it rifle then