gtfo-related-questions

[narrow niche]

Oh right

A little long term memory loss

[hard nexus]

Oh yeah

It was a good system tbh

Encouraged players to do them

Now they pretty much can be completely entirely ignored

[narrow niche]

meh

who cares

their loss

</3

[hard nexus]

That's the thing

It's in no way a loss anymore

Outside og team rundowns

[topaz anvil]

Iirc it was 1 pe for each r4e1 and r5e1

Then some Ovls for D tier, some Extremes for C tier

[hidden ridge]

The word Optional only has one meaning tbh

The only sector that is NOT optional despite being called Secondary is R8E2's

Now that all the maps get unlocked just by Mains, yes, I'd say non-main sectors qualify as Optional

Since the only thing they give is achievements

[tardy ingot]

You could argue that R8B2 main and sec isnt fully optional since you need it for R8A2 sec (technically)

[topaz anvil]

A2Sec is more of an easter egg with afaik no implications to the story

Therefore it's safe to be overlooked

[soft crater]

Dr.Hammersteins experiments moment

[hidden ridge]

Well secondary is optional though, so...

[tardy ingot]

You get access to every optional just by clearing mains tho. Not the case „exactly“ for R8A2 sec

as in, technically you can do R8B2 main and R8E2main (kraken) to get the A2 sec pw

but B2sec is as mandatory for unlocking C1 as B2main is

[topaz anvil]

B2 and C1 are also special cases 😔

[hidden ridge]

yes but I feel like that's just saying that it gives me access to something optional

Still my main gripe was with the statement "optional in the same sense that playing the game at all is optional" which is false

Not only sectors other than Main (with the already named exceptions) are NOT obligatory, but saying that it's at the same level as playing the game at all is, to be honest, wrong

I get that it's an hyperbole 😄

[noble sierra]

Sectors is another mechanic that is awkwardly never achieve its design intention ends up just be weird.

[hidden ridge]

Considering what they've done with R8C1 or R8B2, I feel that they'd rework the mechanic if they could

So that it's branching paths instead

[noble sierra]

They basically changed every "rule" in R8

But it's a finale so nothing really we can expect more

[tardy ingot]

i like both types of optionals

R8 optionals like R8C1 and R8A2 are nice ways to have actually differing paths.

Meanwhile optionals like R4C3 influencing the whole level are incredibly cool.

Stuff like R5C2 is mostly just extra levels tho

[fallen bramble]

Is individual progress in GTFO saved based on account information (like steam account) or is it only saved on individual devices?

Basically, if I were to install GTFO on a new PC (on the same Steam account), would I have the same progress saved?

[noble sierra]

It's tied to Steam account

So yes, you'll have the same progress on your 2nd PC

[fallen bramble]

Cheers

[lunar rain]

Isn’t there a level that warns us against open bulkheads? And yet we don’t see any that are open?

[ocean spindle]

r8b1 says 'wide open bulkheads' but its referring to another thing

not necessarily to the sectors u see in the level

u will get an answer later in the rundown

[edgy plume]

Can you bring Bio-tracker but not use it or use consumable mines while doing "Low Tech" achievement?

[frail heart]

yes

[ocean spindle]

yes to both i believe

[frail heart]

Because it says "active" ability

[edgy plume]

But if i missclick but not use fully bio, its still counts?

We just doing r3c1 for it and get nothing

Okay, we found it out

If you start bio-tracker scan, but cancel it untli its done, it still counts as toll use

[frail heart]

Yeah i thought so

[edgy plume]

Just saw it in console, right after im made "miss click"

[ocean spindle]

tbh i like more r1c2 than r3c1 for the achievement i think its easier but

eh

[frail heart]

r3c1 dookie

[frail heart]

Did they patch the skip with the trap scan in E2?

[narrow niche]

Did they?

[frail heart]

Idk

[narrow niche]

I don't think so?

They patched e1 checkpoint secondary though

:P

[past mesa]

You mean matter wave tp

[ocean spindle]

no i believe they mean activatin the ||VI|| on the main, and goin into the first corrupted scan if the ||reactor || zone

[past mesa]

Oh

[frail heart]

Na i just couldnt be bothered testing

You just have to put in reactor code when the corrupt scans are there yeah?

[ocean spindle]

wait so u do mean that thing i think or

somethin else

[frail heart]

Yeah i know the skip but you put the last reactor code in when the corrupt scan are there

Right?

[ocean spindle]

ahh yeah i think so?

[frail heart]

Okay cool

[weary mesa]

Yea you just have to put the code in fast enough

[maiden nova]

For "biotracker" achievement is every player need to scan than kill? Or only one player/bot can scan and it will count for everyone?

[ocean spindle]

it doesnt matter who tags as long as the enemy IS tagged

so best strat its 3 people one or bot or so, wake up every room and let bots ping em

since bots are super super good at bio

[maiden nova]

ty

[noble sierra]

Last time we tested with nugget & somethingjajaja & salys, the conclusion is you have to put in 1st code when trap is OFF.

[hardy grotto]

pretty sure it doesnt matter

did a run with beep and nuggie where we put it in when it was on and it didnt deactivate permanently

[noble sierra]

Then I guess we just have no concrete conclusion that what is the factor to decide whether the trap will gone.

[civic mist]

The last time we played they said that apparently it has to be before the cycles of 'on' and 'off' end, which would be around a minute something...

[noble sierra]

This theory also fits all of my current experience, I'll take it for now.

[hollow ruin]

so having completed all rundowns and sectors and such, is there anyway to get cosmetics im still missing? or am i out of luck?

[digital mural]

out of luck buddy

[hollow ruin]

[past mesa]

You can mod to play with them if you still want to game

And look a certain way

[hollow ruin]

its not the same to satisfy my completionist itch

[past mesa]

But otherwise you beat the game move on to the next one

You beat 100% tho idk man

[hollow ruin]

still have sum logs 😄

like 5 of em but then yeah im done

[past mesa]

Welp exciting but completing the game was always the accomplishment in this game

[hollow ruin]

true true fingers crossed for more content some day

but unlikely

[past mesa]

Nope

[smoky tree]

you guys have any tips for dodging?

[upper ginkgo]

hold one directional key

dodges 90% of the attacks in the game

[winged turtle]

just like an old game DS1, circle strafing is busted

[smoky tree]

sliding helps?

[winged turtle]

not for dodging, just walking around them is enough to get the job done

sliding is a pretty niche little edge to gain for preserving stamina, its one of the last things to prioritize

[civic wave]

yeah it's mostly moving to the side for tongues

if you're within range when the attack check is made, the range of the tongue will extend to infinity so you can't outrun that in a straight line

[past mesa]

Go into game reload your weapon quit out but don’t close your game. Wait two hours and shooter projectiles won’t be able to shoot you

[smoky tree]

should i also press alt f4

[winged turtle]

the slowest, but most perfect dodge

[winged turtle]

they aren't joking

[past mesa]

That breaks it

[winged turtle]

get shooter bug and shooter shots go straight through you:
Go into game reload your weapon quit the level but don't your game. Wait two hours and shooter projectiles won’t be able to shoot you

perfect dodging

[craggy pier]

equipping the dash perk makes it easy to dodge attacks when you get cornered i highly recommend it

[calm owl]

ok so

what do the different skull symbols mean?

[hidden ridge]

.t sectors

[uneven gulch]

Sectors are a mechanic which adds optional objectives to the game, ranging from altering the game state to adding other objectives. The following sectors are available:
Primary
Secondary
Overload (Third Sector)
Prisoner efficiency (All three Sectors in the same run)

Multiple sectors can be completed at the same time, however you always need to do the Primary/Main sector.

[hidden ridge]

#gtfo-related-questions message

[calm owl]

ok cool

[worn crow]

R8 has some exceptions to the "always needing to do the Main sector" rule (R8B2, R8C1, etc) but the above fact applies to R4-R7.

[twin hamlet]

High and Extreme we miss you 😢

[winged turtle]

i played after Extreme, but now i do miss it

High as default is stinky though

[turbid horizon]

yeah, high was weird, Ex was cool

[tribal flower]

did my group get insanely unlucky or does r2b2 have like no supplies in it?

also there were like a ton of giants in the beginning

[craggy pier]

learn how to list and ping resources

[past mesa]

it doesnt have that much

res isnt random

also

[craggy pier]

what biggus dickus said is correct

[tribal flower]

i mean i know how to ping res but still we only got like 4 packs the whole mission

[frail heart]

Does the brazil scan in e2 stop the surge alarm?

I wouldnt think so but cant be bothered testing

[winged turtle]

by surge, do you mean the error from the timer running out?

[frail heart]

Yes

[upper ginkgo]

pretty sure it does

[frail heart]

Dayum

[hardy grotto]

it does

[frail heart]

Cool good to know

[narrow niche]

thats hilarious

wtf

[topaz anvil]

Seems pretty pointless, because you'd have to wait for the timer to run out first. Pretty sure the scans disappear after the reactor too

Beeeeg time waste

[narrow niche]

hilarious though

[hardy grotto]

they do not disappear after reactor

[topaz anvil]

Dang

[topaz anvil]

Now where in runescape have i seen that

[odd pasture]

great brain robbery

[topaz anvil]

Oh shit you right

Wasn't a fan of the pirate quest line ngl

[odd pasture]

I am the rememberer

[topaz anvil]

Mahjarrat far superior

But that's to be expected

[hidden ridge]

Most are in the res zone and the scout zone

And yes, first zone is nearly all giants

[livid stone]

Just dont wake up 4 scouts and youll be fine

[tough lichen]

Is there a specific requirement to unlock R4E1, so far I've seen some rundown unlock req just being clearthe mentioned rundown but for R4E1 there just isn't any req thingy

[ocean spindle]

complete all the levels

not all sectors, but all levels

[tough lichen]

so all rundown in R4E1, right

[ocean spindle]

yeah all the r4 levels
same for all the other E1 levels, u gotta complete everything else before tryin that E1

so for R2 R4 R5 and R7

[narrow niche]

Excluding r8

[ocean spindle]

i mean
technically that one too

[narrow niche]

Noooo wdym

Technically not

[ocean spindle]

technically yes u need all lvls for e1 ||and all levels again for e2||

C:

[narrow niche]

Not really

You need all the levels but with a little level skipping

You dont

[ocean spindle]

i mean

[narrow niche]

Technically

[ocean spindle]

thats possible too with the others

[narrow niche]

Not to unlock the level

Also

Technically you only need as many main completions as there are before the e1

Nothing about all the levels before an e tier

Completing an e tier counts towards it's own unlock

[ocean spindle]

i think thats what i said :b

idk i mightve phrased it wrong

[soft crater]

Imagine completing levels before you've unlocked them

Smh

[narrow niche]

<\3

[topaz anvil]

Sequence breaking? Shame on you

[narrow niche]

</3333

[wintry lava]

bot spawned without weapons, anything that can be done? ive kicked them out and one is spawning without anything

[dry pumice]

Don't think so, no.

Once cursed the bot is cursed forever and will only get more curses as you delete>readd them

[grand elm]

same goes for c-foam. if it glitches the door it will apply to that player and all other players around him

[rapid briar]

I didn’t know there were any bugs with c-foam

*related to doors I mean

[turbid horizon]

there used to be a really bad one

[rapid briar]

do tell

[turbid horizon]

Alternatively easier doorbug

Also cfoam can just fly through doors

[past mesa]

C foam flying through doors is an extensions of shooter bug btw

[turbid horizon]

wonderful

[past mesa]

Well just thought you should consider them the same

Tbh I think shooter bug is gtfo biggest bug atm

Noooooooooo

My discord corn server

[turbid horizon]

no jish

[winged turtle]

mo fucking way

[turbid horizon]

It’s all shooterbug?

[winged turtle]

"always has been"

[rapid briar]

what shooter bug

[past mesa]

Every single thing in this game is just shooter but ngl

I am surprised mines work as well as they do

Because they should be breaking I guess they also did break pre r5

[rapid briar]

what is the shooter bug??

[jagged shore]

the one where you eventually just stop getting hit by shooter bullets

[winged turtle]

once something falls through the map (eg magazine from reloading) for several hours, shooter shots don't deal damage to you

[rapid briar]

that’s

[winged turtle]

itsnonly reliable because under some conditions, a level you leave will despawn but not the empty clips you dropped during that mission

[rapid briar]

honestly pretty funny

[turbid horizon]

:) gtfo gaming

[winged turtle]

its a mn issue i have heard of with other games, i think it was someone's skyrim file that started breaking because a torch fell through and all of the interacable layers were adjusting to the new dimensions of the map.
the interact prompt for doors were 5, 10ft away from the door ect

[rapid briar]

👽

[past mesa]

It is specifically a bug related with this version of Unity and gtfo not having a kill plane/the unfortunate miss of level cleanup

[soft crater]

[native sun]

Nothing you can do during that match itself, but if it's still happening you might need to delete the bot favourites file.

Bots favourites file can get borked if you've played with some modded weapons and then go back to vanilla. I don't remember where the file is off the top of my head but if that is the case you'll probably get a fast answer on the modded server

[hidden ridge]

I had that issue a couple of times after someone joined and quitted mid-way, they took the bot spot, quitted, then bot spawned without weapons and respawning them wouldn't work

Was very weird to see

[wintry lava]

Ive never played with mods, and we just ended up replaying the level and it didnt happen. the last time i had this bug was a few months ago, so if it only happens with that occurance it should be fine ig

[civic wave]

I know I've encountered the issue but I can't remember the trigger

[wintry lava]

for us it was the respawn on CX

[hidden ridge]

tru said a way it happens

[civic wave]

Managed to fix it by retiring to lobby and dropping into thr level a 2nd time

[hidden ridge]

which is with the bot favourites thingy getting glitched

[civic wave]

Yes but I do not play with mods nor with bots

[hidden ridge]

but I think there's some other, rare trigger

[civic wave]

Actually now that I'm thinking back I think the bot couldn't load in initially so I kicked it then put it back in

[hidden ridge]

I think that one of the times I got it I also noticed that I couldn't copy the lobby id (Steam crashed)

But I dont think "Steam/whatever the game does to connect" getting wonky could glitch bots loadout

[weary mesa]

Anyone know when the shotgun started to have the dmr reload bug when at 1 shell remaining

[native sun]

Glad to hear it resolved itself.

Yeah, the modded weapons thing is just one way it can happen, but when it happens that way sometimes it doesn't go away at all.

[native sun]

2 patches ago? When they buffed its ammo

[noble sierra]

^

[native sun]

Yeah this one: #patch-notes message

[weary mesa]

Whats with ammo counts and fucking reloads

[native sun]

The same number gets used repeatedly for both ammo count, and for deducting from ammo count when reloading. When the number causes a rounding error, things get borked

All they have to do is subtract 0.01 from every bullet cost and it either never happens again, or happens 10,000x less often. Don't even have to account for rounding in a smart way.

[noble sierra]

Because how they previously "fixed" the problem is not a root cause fix, anytime a bullet cost changed, it can happens again (with high probability)

[past mesa]

Just like how they fixed the giant numbers

For rounding

[native sun]

The root cause fix is hard and unnecessary, they literally already know better, they use 0.01 all the time for weapon damage, and that is how they fixed DMR

[native sun]

^

[past mesa]

This does feel like a weird way to do ammo

Tho like other games probably do it simpler

[noble sierra]

I don't agree that root cause fix is hard but I'll say 0.01 is a good enough work around

[lunar rain]

My poor burst rifle

[scenic fjord]

does someone have a list of the secret commands in gtfo? if so could you dm it to me?

[hidden ridge]

Did you get them? I can DM some

[jagged shore]

I sent em

[winged wolf]

like, terminal commands?

[slow mist]

hey so i really been wanting to play this game but have no friends how hard is solo? is it possible? i heard the final update is coming soon and i been wanting to play it since launch

[odd pasture]

the final update is here, you cant solo all of the missions irc, and the game really wasnt meant to be solo'd

its incredibly difficult to solo stuff, unless you take bots

[noble sierra]

Very hard at beginning, most levels solo (bot or not) possible, though. The final update is already out, only minor adjustment from now.

[odd pasture]

honestly try to get yourself into some lfg's and such

preserve your sanity

[slow mist]

i would use lfg but trying to get all 4 lfg people to continue one run might be a hassle

[odd pasture]

you could probably just make some friends along the way

[frail heart]

"Technically" most levels are possible solo

Every level in the game has been done solo apart from e2

[odd pasture]

yeh, aware, just

[frail heart]

But many require cheese

"require"

[odd pasture]

seen a lot of nenpis runs

[frail heart]

Yeah hes good at the game

[slow mist]

i see

ill try to use lfg but i really dont join vcs often haha

[frail heart]

People here are pretty accepting of people who dont use a mic, just gotta listen to others tbh

[slow mist]

hmm okay!

[slow mist]

so my friends who played around launch told me i cant access old rundowns is this still true even after the final update?

[odd pasture]

untrue

[slow mist]

oh okayy because im really interested in the lore/story and would suck if i couldnt experience it

[lone mortar]

you can

[slow mist]

okay cool!

so do i need the same team for all 8 rundowns?

[lone mortar]

you can do pretty much anyone nowadays

[slow mist]

okayy so if lfg doesnt go well ill be safe to play with diff ppl?

[lone mortar]

well i am a open slot if youre free to do old rundowns

[slow mist]

as of rn no i just got to work and i dont get out for another 7-9 hourss but ill play when im out!

[lone mortar]

sure

[odd pasture]

:O

maybe I could join you fellas too

[slow mist]

cool! ty

[lone mortar]

[slow mist]

im down to play with whoever kitty wants i just dont wanna be yelled at haha

i mostly play singleplayer games and play most multiplayer games solo like warhammer vermintide 2 and deep rock galactic so gtfo will pretty much be my first true coop experience

[odd pasture]

I will scream at you, do you think this is a game???

(it is a game, I will not be yelling)

[fierce walrus]

god kaiser i get you like cats but really why name yourself „kittygate”

[grizzled patrol]

Thinking about it, does Scouts deathrattle when He dies while fully awaken actually wake the room Up? We Had a Glitch where it did that noise even though we stealthkilled him, and it appears to have waken the entire room up

Tho it Could habe been a small Guy who woke Up somewhere in a corner due to Long Ränge Aggro

[noble sierra]

Scout doesn't deathrattle

[topaz anvil]

deathrattle 💀 what is this, hearthstone?

[hard nexus]

Yea so scout doesn't have deathrattle

Instead scout is grim patron

[odd pasture]

scout goes ouuuuuughhhhh when it dies

[hard nexus]

aaooaa

[livid stone]

No it doesnt wake up the room if it doesnt do that flash of light

[grizzled patrol]

Havent you Seen it? They added Scout in the new old gods Expansion

[odd pasture]

[hidden ridge]

Well

Scout dying can awake another scout if they're super close to each other (within reason, hel rifle can double kill no issue I think)

So I assume all the similar rules apply to that, like it can make an enemy go from glowing to awaken I think.

But scout's "death scream" is just flair

[noble sierra]

Yes, killing scout can trigger proximity and long range aggro

[livid stone]

Long range aggro 😡

[mossy zinc]

hi, i recently just bought the game during steam sale and was playing just fine 3 4 hours ago
now the game just crashes whenever the drop sequence starts and not just the game but some other apps like Discord and Steam
has anyone ever encountered this? ive looked it up on google and it pretty much seems like a dead end to me

[odd pasture]

any error codes?

[mossy zinc]

sometimes there is, sometimes there isnt, and it usually an Unity error dialog saying something like "unable to allocate memory"
fyi im running on a spec with 16gb ram, rtx 2060 super

[odd pasture]

ram issue then

[dry pumice]

Do you use any gaming enhancing software like Asus Armory Crate? Seen that those things often cause issues.

[spice matrix]

What weapons are allowed to use for shotgun achievement during tier D level?

Is scattergun allowed?

[hidden ridge]

Main: HEL Shotty, Slug Shotty, Sawn-off. Special: Shotgun, Combat Shotgun, Choke Mod Shotgun, Scattergun

[spice matrix]

Thanks

[lunar rain]

Don’t do what I did, it’s not worth your sanity to play solo

[slow mist]

alot of ppl say that i dont mind but the question was like is it completely impossible? i solo alot of games

[odd pasture]

go ahead then

but keep in mind, doing so at your own peril

[keen seal]

it is possible

[slow mist]

oh im not doing it if kitty gets onn but i might do a test run to see how the game works first before i play with them

[hidden ridge]

With bots? You're gonna be fine for the first expeditions tbh

But that's not solo

[slow mist]

no bots most likely

[hidden ridge]

Actual Solo ehhh, without using major glitches some shit is just not really concocted for it

R7D1 just has a couple of terminals you can use to get fast enough so it requires massive luck

[slow mist]

im just not good at managing bots if its like ready or not

[hidden ridge]

Bots in GTFO are 100% silent no matter what they do, even if they shoot

[slow mist]

oh okayy

[hidden ridge]

If something wakes up, you fucked up somewhere

[slow mist]

how long are rundowns usually?

[hidden ridge]

Rundowns are a group of expeditions (levels). Expeditions can vary based on how good the team is, luck, and the level itself

[slow mist]

oh mann

[hidden ridge]

Let's say R1A1 should take you, what, half an hour if you're really new and clueless

[slow mist]

i wanna get the 100 percent but apparently that requires hardest difficulties and effects

are they soloable with bots?

[plain raft]

Not entirely

[hidden ridge]

Let's say that stuff like R4E1 with 3 vanilla bots is plausible (barring glitches) but not realistical

[slow mist]

hmm okay thank u!

[plain raft]

As far as I know
Some secondaries/overloads need another player

Eg 2 terminal uplink

[hidden ridge]

On the other hand people have duoed R4E1 Extreme, so

[slow mist]

thats true but im completely new with no knowledge

[hidden ridge]

I'm sure T-nenpi soloed R4E1 Extreme

[drifting needle]

But those people likely have thousands of hours no?

[hidden ridge]

But it's T-nenpi

[hidden ridge]

No idea how many T-nenpi has but some vets have 5k

[plain raft]

If you’re doing it solo and want to not spend a couple hours on a single mission
Watch some guides for the level so you have an idea of how things will go

Doing r2d1 alone took me a long while

[hidden ridge]

I'd advise to either watch a guide and play with vanilla bots until you get stuck, or just jump in with actual players in this Discord's lfg

[plain raft]

It takes a little bit to get a group together
But it’s well worth it for the fun you have with actual gamers

@slow mist
Just make sure you’ve given yourself access to the other lfg channels to ensure you get teammates with decent ping

[slow mist]

yeahh i just have bad experiences with lfg but ill give it a try!

[plain raft]

There are very few trolls in this server

[slow mist]

its not just trolls! i know ill definitely make mistakes and just have a fear of annoying someone or messing up too much that they get angry

[drifting needle]

Mistakes happen alot in this game almost no one will blame

[hidden ridge]

No. I also leave if I get blamed for shit I've no agency about, so dont worry

If you're free I've enough time to give you some basics on R1A1 if you want btw

[slow mist]

like i can be serious but not too serious if that makes sense? but like i will try something without saying anything but i wont purposely lose us the run

[hidden ridge]

No need to think about it too much, it's a game and that's it at the end of the day

[slow mist]

i can get on in 30 minutes on my way home i got out early

[hard nexus]

I don't care if someone fucks up or even sometimes when I fuck up I'm ready to fight not to lose the run and then say my bad or no worries depending on who fucked up. Raging or yelling does nothing if u can't focus on saving the run from the point of fuckup

Hell, scuffed runs are the most fun tbh

[slow mist]

interesting haha

thats such a different view

[low radish]

Everyone makes mistakes, sometimes mistakes even lead to better outcomes

[hard nexus]

a lot of beginner squads are actually geniunely scared of stealth going wrong its such a bummer to play in them

[low radish]

honestly, trying to go stealthy and failing sounds like a WAY better idea than going w i l d

[hard nexus]

and its not just an insult to beginner, u need to learn melee combat with sleepers in woken state

[slow mist]

i like playing stealth but playing tooooo slow can be not my thing at some point i want action

Plus i saw the roles and saw spear and was like yes i want

[low radish]

Everything has it's upsides and downsides though, as i nevery game

[hard nexus]

i mean thats usually how i go, try stealth albeit in my case fast stealth and if we wake room it is what it is start charging left and right

[hidden ridge]

I go with the flow but I'll admit that for easy maps I dont really have a lot of patience

[low radish]

I usually try to go stealthy, if it fails i either fight or run, it's really depending on situantion

[hard nexus]

depending on room my goal is to kill the scout even if i wake whole room successfully doing so

[grand sun]

Trying to play the game with a friend, but whenever we try to join each other, it just says, "Waiting for master" for a few moments before kicking me out of the lobby. If this isn't the right channel for this, just lmk and I'll delete.

[hard nexus]

sometimes u dont have a lot of time t. reactors

[hidden ridge]

"gtfo-technical-support" but just to be sure: dont use VPNs and programs that interfere with P2P connections like Asus gamefirst (sometimes). Ask him to check if the slots are "Players and Bots" or "Players only".

Also check the bottom right corner ingame, it should say a 5-digit number, it should be 34853

[hidden ridge]

It's just that it doesn't really make sense to hammer a scout that's alone in a room, I'm just gonna shoot unless it's right by the door or I can sprint to it

Or to stealth a room with 3 strikers or a big striker, really, I just shoot or go melee

Or to stealth a room with a door I know I won't need 😄 then it's mine+pull

But yeah reactors too

[slow mist]

will we be using in game chat or discord?

[hidden ridge]

I dont speak a lot so whatever you want

And I'll just give you the very basics I wont overload you with info dont worry

[slow mist]

im down for either! im just usually in a call with friends but rn im not so both works with me

[hidden ridge]

Let's make it a trio

[low radish]

Thank you

[hard nexus]

its more satisfying to hammer

plus u save 1 whole shot wwoooow

[low radish]

that one shot might matter a lot later

[hard nexus]

ya reckon?

[low radish]

might

[hard nexus]

what if u dont know/dont remember

@slow mist @low radish all u need to know is when your melee crosshair becomes small it means u are in range to hit the enemy and therefore let go of your mouse1 hold

also u can cancel melee charge with mouse2

das about it have fun

[hidden ridge]

https://ptb.discord.com/channels/408196129470152705/1218232560128364594 Whenever you are ready

[low radish]

I see

[slow mist]

ahhh i have to cancel my gf needs me to do some stuff for her

[soft crater]

slams desk

These beings called Women take our brothers

[low radish]

i'm a woman and i'm pretty sure i haven't taken anyone

[soft crater]

I should be specific

The ones my homies call their wife/gf

[thorn token]

hey there, so matchmaking is banned for older rundowns right? im a former player from the beta days. and im trying to catch up on the harder levels i didnt finish. if i wanted to find players for those rundowns, how would i go about it?

[arctic marten]

nah, all the old levels are back and you can play them in this server

unless you mean downgrading your game version to play the OG versions

[thorn token]

oh

so i can play the ALT rundowns then?

i misinterpreted that rule

[arctic marten]

yeah it confuses everyone but they won't rewrite it

[thorn token]

right now im up to R2D2

thanks for the clarification

[arctic marten]

gl out there

[lunar rain]

not impossible, but eventually it gets to the point where you start to ask yourself if its easier to actually find real people to play with or just adding bots to the lobby

[slow mist]

just scared of bots wasting ammo/shooting me

[lunar rain]

had the exact same fear, mostly just because hacket likes to blast my brains

[slow mist]

how scary is game im abt to get on

[jagged shore]

it's kinda scary until you get used to it

[slow mist]

hihi if ur ever free to play hmu!

[lone mortar]

im here

and free rn

[slow mist]

okii

i just finished the tutorial

[lone mortar]

alr

just make a vc if any space of choice

[slow mist]

done!

can u swap characters? i wanna be bishop or hackett

[digital mural]

yes and no

[slow mist]

oh

[digital mural]

you can ask the host of the sesion to lock the bots and keep the other slots open to "select" the character

or you can use mods (i think theres one to select characters)

[slow mist]

well im the host so haha

[jagged shore]

the only way to do that (other than a mod) is join a lobby, be in the slot of your choice, then everyone else leaves so you become the host from that slot

[slow mist]

aww man

[rocky vale]

so what is the best primary in the game

[turbid horizon]

Hel revo/hel shotgun are probably the best two

With hel rev being top dog

[winged turtle]

its got that dog innit

[soft crater]

Hel revo is ideally the overall Meta pick

[mental furnace]

Carbine is also very strong with an easier learning curve

And, this will be an unpopular opinion, but I think sawed off is quite good. Maybe about the same level as dmr but with the exact opposite role

[dry pumice]

I think by vets' standards both sawed-off and DMR are basically top tier guns if used for their intended roles.

Hell, sawed off is basically a superior pump action at this point... Almost all stats are the same, except trading half the mag for twice the reload speed.

[turbid horizon]

Less than twice; you can’t reload cancel sawed off at all anymore

[civic wave]

sawed off reloads slower when you look at reload cancelling

[turbid horizon]

Yeah this

[civic wave]

it has a significantly improved ammo capacity though which is great

[dry pumice]

You know i don't consider that stuff

The raw numbers say 1.6 vs 3.0. Almost twice.

[tardy ingot]

[slow mist]

what would be a good way to build the bots?

idk what im doing in this menu haha

[turbid horizon]

Burst rifle/mg

Is my preference

Veruta btw

[slow mist]

hmm okayy

[turbid horizon]

I put one with hel revo and one with a shotgun (that one’s risky)

[dry pumice]

For mains Burst Rifle is the go-to for bot users. It got nice stats, decent range (they love taking sniping range potshots), lots of bullets.
For specials its any of the machine guns (arbalist hits harder, veruta runs out of ammo slower), but also Short Rifle is pretty cute on them - they run out of ammo VERY slowly on it and can abuse its' fire rate.

You can also designate one of the bots into a proper killer with Double Tap Rifle + Burst Cannon combo. He will eat extra ammo, but also will deal notably more damage.

[turbid horizon]

more damage *to thebplayers

[arctic marten]

DTR + burst cannon wins

[turbid horizon]

Reason I have them on shotgun: getting hit by a shotgun pellet is much better than a burst cannon shot

[dry pumice]

I genuinely never got FF'd by them

[turbid horizon]

huh

[winged turtle]

Managing bots requires a certain play style, and if that's natural to you, more power to you

[dry pumice]

Maybe got something to do with my passive, low-movement playstyle. Or i backpedal a lot.

[turbid horizon]

Maybe

[winged turtle]

That sounds right to me honestly

[arctic marten]

1 gtfo speedrunner vs 3 hunters

[rare blade]

do aggressive boosters come in pairs of 3 and stuff or am i trippin?

[past mesa]

idk

what you mean

[native sun]

Confirmation bias coming out of your socks

[digital mural]

you mean like 3 effects?

[ocean spindle]

pairs of 3?

[rare blade]

like when u get an aggressive booster u get 3 uses of it

[digital mural]

they do but not always

[civic wave]

Muted is always 1
Bold is 1-2
Agg is 2-3

[rare blade]

OhHHHh

ty

[latent obsidian]

Pairs of 3 or triads of 2

[slow mist]

i suck at this game haha

spent like 5 hours just losing on r1b2

[sturdy glen]

thats how it normally goes dw

[slow mist]

yeah two of my friends got on and we still lost haha

but back to solo

also is it bad i stay so long in missions

i be in there for like 40 minutes stealthing

[sturdy glen]

skill progression in this game generally involves speeding up stealth a LOT but starting out its fine

you can do stealth very quickly in this game if you understand it well enough

[noble sierra]

You'll get better, not your character

[slow mist]

wdym

[slow mist]

i want too but at the same time my friends dont trust me haha

anything goes wrong they are like "WHAT ARE U DOING" and panic and shoot

im like "i can melee all 3 before they scream" and i do but they get scared haha

[frail heart]

Thats a thing you have to work on as a team is not panicking and just shooting the moment something wakes up

[sturdy glen]

"benefits" of this game being advertised as a heavy stealth game

(its not one)

[frail heart]

It has stealth components, but its not a MAINLY stealth game

[lone mortar]

me casually jumping like a grasshopper in game

[quaint moth]

is there a way to matchmake within a rundown?

[timber glade]

Which ones are fixed when I load checkpoints?

I think resources and mobs are fixed in one seed but some are not so I want to know exactly

[hidden ridge]

Resource packs are going to be in the same spot, and it's the same for mobs. It also USED to be the same for reactor codes but I dont know if that's the case anymore

[fierce walrus]

Everythinf other than uplink codes is fixed

[hidden ridge]

Pretty much everything that's generated on level creation is fixed

So I'm not sure what you think it's "some are not"

[fierce walrus]

reactor codes didnt change pre R8

i know that for sure

dunno if they changed it

[hidden ridge]

Yeah I remember people cheesing R6D3's reactor with the checkpoint

[fierce walrus]

i guess youd only to that on a main only run?

since without opening bdoor you cant acess secondary

[hidden ridge]

Yeah but point is I remember a patch note mentioning that cheese being "fixed"

But I'm not sure

Also how many levels have both fetched codes and a checkpoint?

R7's only Reactor is in R7E1 and that doesn't have a checkpoint

Same for R8's being only in R8E2 which doesn't have a checkpoint

So just R6D3

I've no idea if codes stay the same for corrupted/double uplinks like R6D2

But I'm sure the terminals required change for checkpoint use on R7D1

But that's timed-connections and not corrupted/double uplinks

[timber glade]

thx everyone XD

also alram circles are fixed?

[hidden ridge]

I think those change too, but it depends, some alarms are simply hardcoded to have some possibilities of where they spawn or go, take for example R1D1's team scan of the second alarm: it's either on the bridge, undeneat on right or left.

[timber glade]

oh i see

thx for ur kindness

[sharp moss]

is there a difference in difficulty depending on the number of the rundowns

[digital mural]

no

not at all

[sharp moss]

👍

[slow mist]

they NEVER want me to shoot which is why we take 40 minutes in one thing

[frail heart]

I mean you don’t have to shoot when something wakes up, just hammer it quick and only shoot if a full rooms wakes up

[odd pasture]

take knife

stab everything at all times

[slow mist]

yeahh i know that but they would rather spam melee 3 big guys and a seeker than just shoot its so funny

[slow mist]

i like the spear the high range and damage makes stealthing for me easier

[odd pasture]

fuck spear

[slow mist]

what why

i love spears

the dark souls in me wanted it haha

[digital mural]

spear is good
against single enemies

[slow mist]

i mean i can still kill 3 before it wakes up a whole room

if they are piled up

my friends use knife and bat

i still clear rooms quicker than them

i just find weapons to be preference more than meta needed imo

[odd pasture]

learn to knife or sledge or sth, spear is slow for clearing

if sweat is your way

[ocean spindle]

i mean its an option sure
just be flexible with ur choices, dont just use one two weapons or melee weapons for the whole game, cause there will be lvls than ask u for somethin else like r2c2 r3d1 r2d2...

spears good for learnin, scouts for newies, giants, etc etc, but it struggles a lot in combat and fast stealth so

be sure to have another melee learnt for the levels that do ask u for that

[slow mist]

im okay with that!

[ocean spindle]

otherwise, run with spear all chu want, at the end it wont matter a whole lot in most levels till u start learnin fast stealth

:3

[slow mist]

i used all melees

but my personal faves are just sledgehammer and spear

im still stuck on r1b2

but i dont wanna progress without them

i can beat it solo its just idk how progression works with friends who are behind

[ocean spindle]

uh when u host u can put any mission u want, and they can join it, so u could just take people to an e1 if u got it unlocked. if u complete a mission tthey get the completion too unlocked or not

thats kinda all the progression

[slow mist]

but i heard theres like a downside to doing that

[ocean spindle]

...
uh

gamewise not

[slow mist]

i just wanna start the storyy

[ocean spindle]

but like on experience i guess takin newies to super advanced levels its not the great thing

but thats like exceptions

[slow mist]

im a noob myself

they actually have more hours than me

Its just im better alone

when they are with me they tend to panic abt me messing up

[ocean spindle]

do an e tier so they know u pro gamer :D

[slow mist]

haha sure!

i been having alot of fun

even if i lost for 5 hours straight

just learning has been a blast

[ocean spindle]

its cool to just drop into some level and figure out every detail :3

[hard nexus]

3 juggers and a seeker

hel iron on his hip

[slow mist]

yeah lets say we died that run

the second time we went in loud on them and cleared them in a minute with our guns

[slow mist]

yeah! i really wanna start the story but i think we are still in the tutorial phase because theres still no dialogue

[hard nexus]

ye thats gangsta until u need to sprint

[slow mist]

true

[hard nexus]

overall spear is cool because of the range

[slow mist]

killing two enemies that are far are my biggest issue

But thats why i also like sledgehammer

I move decently fast with it

[ocean spindle]

yeah uh super important logs on terminals start like, r4
an then r6 till actual ingame dialogue

[hard nexus]

dialogue is only r7-r8, there was in r6, but only in og

[ocean spindle]

there is in r6 still

d1

[hard nexus]

oh, really?

[ocean spindle]

yeh

[hard nexus]

its been ages since ive done altr6d1

[ocean spindle]

remembs when an enemy is glowin, itll detect if u kill another enemy from further away

[hard nexus]

is there a mod for dialogues for r6

since they were a thing

[slow mist]

r4?!?!?! me and my friends struggling on r1 :((

[ocean spindle]

:D

yeah it takes a while for the story to like

enter

i mean theres logs on terminals on every rundown

[slow mist]

but do they all connect?

[ocean spindle]

idk i only know those dialogues are on terminals now

[slow mist]

also i was told im missing some info? apparently the alts and original rundowns have different voicelines

[ocean spindle]

uhhh no

eh

how do i explain

so when OG r6 dropped there was some dialogue on some doors

hoewever it was annoyin and it slowed down some scans a lot

so with the alts they put it into terminals as logs

so u can still hear em

[hard nexus]

oh yea because og r6 was like the first proper story mode where while ur doing normal sec scan for a door there is like exposition or some shit

[ocean spindle]

also they kinda form the general story, some r just like stories of garganta, some explain what happen with the world outside n stuff

[ocean spindle]

yeah so some scans were like
20 seconds long or somethin, makin em very tiring to replay

[slow mist]

oh cool so i should start listening to them? and would it play for my friends too or do we each have to activate the logs

[ocean spindle]

it would play for em too if they have audio files on em, but most on r1 r2 i believe are text logs

[tardy ingot]

Rundowns dont get progressively harder

generally r5/r8 > r4 > r7 > r6/r2 > r3 > r1

but its a lot more about tiers (aside from rundown 1)

[slow mist]

ohh coool

[tardy ingot]

They did change the story with the alts tho

OG r1-r6 followed the og team and schaeffer. Alt r1-r6 follow well, the alt ones

[tardy ingot]

👀
could this mean that you need a
Stealth guide

[hard nexus]

this could mean they need to

git gud

[slow mist]

i know how to kill em! its just the movement speed on the spear can be a bit slow for me

i do it just fine with a sledgehammer

[ocean spindle]

oh thats what- i misunderstood oops

[tardy ingot]

the general answer

[hard nexus]

spear issue

[slow mist]

yeah my friends remember him as some psycho but i told tgem he liked the warden and they called me crazy haha

[tardy ingot]

especially since everything applies for that

Teamplay, choices of tools, weapons etc, knowledge of the level, mechanics, ressource management etc

[slow mist]

they told me schaeffer hated the warden

[dry pumice]

OG one does, not the new one

[tardy ingot]

og schaeffer does

[dry pumice]

Different people. Welcome to GTFO lore.

[slow mist]

so theres 2 ?

[dry pumice]

Yes.

[slow mist]

i guess ill figure it out later

but that explains alot

we argued for like 30 minutes abt it LOL

[hard nexus]

both are canonically professional swimmers

[dry pumice]

sause?

[hard nexus]

d2

[slow mist]

okayy

im assuming i should look up lore up to r6 then? or will i figure it out thru playing

[dry pumice]

You can figure it out, but it will take so long - you'll forget half of it

[slow mist]

also is it okay theres only 3 of us? we dont use the bot haha

[dry pumice]

Rundowns 1 through 6 are one storyline. Its basically not present within the gameplay itself - the game is game first, for better or worse.
Rundown 6 is a little bit more direct about things, but still not quite.
Then rundown 7 hits and you are likely to get confused because THAT'S is when Schaeffer gets switched.
Then rundown 8 hits and its batshit crazy from there.

[dry pumice]

Not optimal, but doable. Do consider to have the bot on biotracker duty, they're amazing with that.

[hidden ridge]

Give bot bio, bots cheat with bio

Artek was faster! Good job Artek.

[dry pumice]

Game does not compensate for missing players and does nothing to adjust the difficulty, and the game is built and tested with 4 people in mind, so you are literally just short on one gun and pair of free hands.

Majority of A through C tier levels are fine, you'll manage. But some Ds and especially Es will prove to be a b*tch.

[slow mist]

i seee

ill use them my friends just think only 3 of us is enough

[slow mist]

8 is the ending right?

[dry pumice]

I mean, it is... Some of the local tryhards had proven that you can beat every level as 2 players and even as complete solo. Obivously requires to be a 10/10 gamer though.

[dry pumice]

Yep, the end of the story for now.

[slow mist]

a sequel i assume?

Because it is THE FINAL update

[dry pumice]

Nothing in stone. Maybe yes, maybe not.

GTFO was a largely experimental project where devs tried new ideas and things to see how it would work out in the field.

Lore was one of the experimental features, unfortunately.

[slow mist]

awhh

but i really like the game

[dry pumice]

It started very humbly and then just went of the rails in record amount of time.

[slow mist]

i hope it gets a sequel or some updates

either way ill play this game years later

alsoo is higher fov better? i play at horizontal fov 93

[tardy ingot]

yes
most people play between 80-100 (for non horizontal)

[dry pumice]

I mean higher FoV just generally allows you to see more things, which does make you a superior unit (you can notice an enemy the other guy migh not)

But it hurts immersion with that drug-induced fish eye effect

Personally i prefer like 75 tops

[tardy ingot]

that only rly shows up at like 100+

[slow mist]

yeahh mines at 80 ish

[ocean spindle]

play at 20 fov

[tardy ingot]

if you got horizontal 93 that is like 61

which is pretty damn low

[slow mist]

oh

what the doo doo

im used to 93 from other games thats all

ill increase it later im abt to slep

[dry pumice]

TBH i don't know a single other game that for some reasons mentions dual FoVs

most games just have one setting ranging from like 50 to 100 and its just "FoV"

For some reasons GTFO decided to be the one to be a 🤓 about it and have both

And now i have to exist in existential dread of wondering which one the other games use

[slow mist]

most other games use horizontal

Which is why i mentioned my horizontal is 93 fov

which would be like 93 in minecraft or cod

[soft crater]

Several games do while others don't but typically while an invisible number it is scaling up with the one shown I'm pretty sure.

[slow mist]

im using the pdw with the hel rifle is that bad?

[digital mural]

not really

PDW is kinda bad

hel rifle is god tier

[fierce walrus]

i mean… PDW is managable. Its not great but its also not trash

the thermal is its main selling point really

[odd pasture]

kaiser influence

[digital mural]

did you said you hate the PDW after our R7D2 run?

Cubix

[fierce walrus]

as everything else Hsmg does better

[slow mist]

i felt it was but when i look up smgs ppl mostly say pdw for thermal

[fierce walrus]

I got used to it after a couple runs… except when we got chargers. That was unusable

[digital mural]

skill issue

[fierce walrus]

Yeah Heavy smg is better than pdw in pretty much all aspects other than thermal

Like you usually only pick it up if you want a thermal scope. That saying, its a completely usable weapon so its not like „if you pick this gun you are gonna lose the run”

[dry pumice]

Yes, that's what i'm saying - GTFO didn't need to go big brain and specify both, just call the settings FoV and use the number everyone else uses

[livid stone]

120

[soft crater]

55 / 75 / 90-120 users be like

[whole stirrup]

I've been playing max fov since I started

Hard to go back now that I'm neck deep in the FOV drugs

[topaz anvil]

I'm sorry for your loss

[soft crater]

120 is fugly imo

I personally use 100

[sage pulsar]

what c levels are more painful than the r5 ones

[ocean spindle]

r7 levels with PE can be rough...

uh

r4c3 its kinda one of the hardest with PE too

r4c2 its just like slow not really hard

thats about it

r8c1 its not that hard once u know whats happenin

[turbid horizon]

R4C3 PE is scary

[turbid horizon]

Lies

[ocean spindle]

i mean its hard

its up there on C difficulties

but its way more challengin blind

its probs one of the hardet c1s with PE along with r5s

id say r5s harder tho

[tardy ingot]

Idk about that one perdonally

[jagged shore]

yeah r4c3pe was just
blech

[hidden ridge]

What other C1 had PE?

None?

[tardy ingot]

r4c3pe, r5c2pe, r6c3pe

r7c3pe

R4C2pe (thoboredom boosted), r7c2pe, r6c2sec, r8c2

All feel tougher

[ocean spindle]

i mean

[ocean spindle]

i phrased that wrong

[tardy ingot]

ah lol

i only now saw c1

but ye

[ocean spindle]

i mean like its one of the hardest if u do PE

[tardy ingot]

what sleepo said

[ocean spindle]

if u do main its like uh r7c1 i guess a bit easier

[ocean spindle]

perdon is sorry in spanish so i forgive u its ok

:3

[hidden ridge]

Eh I don't know

R8C1 Main only I did once

It's super easy

R7C1 has only main and at least throws at you the ending sequence

[ocean spindle]

its... ok no yeah i mean
ugh idk ksdmkm

[tardy ingot]

its a zone with scouts and smalls. Then 1 alarm thats mid at best. Then a challenging scout zone. The double uplink is rly chill too

[ocean spindle]

i did r8c1 with bots so i wanna say its way easier

[tardy ingot]

solid easy C tier main

[ocean spindle]

but part of me just knows thats not a fact

[hidden ridge]

I guess an argument can be made if you consider a group that doesn't know how to do corrupted uplinks

[tardy ingot]

R7C1 is definetly harder

[ocean spindle]

mh i guess its, way easier if u coordinate well yeah

[hidden ridge]

While R7C1 is a bit more intuitive, just a bit

[ocean spindle]

maybs just my run was too messy so i kinda like mix both difficulties in my head as 'not that far when they r kinda far

[hidden ridge]

I'd say that, under the premise of "a group of newbies that watched a video explaining what to do in the level" R7C1 is a tad harder

[ocean spindle]

erm the scout zone is before the class one in r7c1

:3

[hidden ridge]

It's skippable tbh

Especially with 3 sentries of your preferred flavour and 1 bio

[ocean spindle]

yeah but like no one skips it unless its a speedrun tbh

or if u wanna be hardcore

like cell skip in r5e1, of course not as bad but

same idea

[hidden ridge]

Bots are OKAY at it since they dont care about fog

[ocean spindle]

bots defo wont carry u through it tho

not even with bio bot

even if u had 5 burst cannon or somethin- thats just incredibly hard

specially by hybrids

bots will just mostly stagger some giants even with chokemods or hel rifles

[hidden ridge]

Wait first alarm can have hybrids? You mean the alarm at the end?

[ocean spindle]

the first alarm can almost always have hybrids

the end extract alarm doesnt

from what i know

[hidden ridge]

Bha

I'll admit I ran that with 3 vanilla bots like once

[ocean spindle]

the zone scan only spawns one giant with the wave i believe

and the snatchie

[hidden ridge]

But I cant remember seeing hybrids at the first alarm tbh

[ocean spindle]

i do cause they are the first ones to appear usually

but idk if they are constant

of if its just one wave thing

[hidden ridge]

Maybe they get blown off by mines

I could have done it 2 sentry 1 bio 1 mine

Hard tbh since I rarely place 2

[ocean spindle]

if u mine low probably, they are the first thing to run cause they are pretty fast and theres wave of bigs and then wave of smalls

maybs 2 mines hit the hybrids

and then sentries finished em

or someone else in ur team sniped

[hidden ridge]

Doubt, mine+sentry more probable

[ocean spindle]

i remember that alarm very well cause on myyyy
what was it... first like 30 hours in the game i tried hard hard to beat that level with bots

so i did that alarm like, 10 times or more

probs more yeah like 20

most of em failed on there lol

[tardy ingot]

that was about r8c1

[whole stirrup]

I did all the PE's in the game but don't have the achievement - Last level I need is r8e2 but that wouldn't count.... what do

[ocean spindle]

... oops

[ocean spindle]

isnt the achievement for doin all sectors? or is there another one?

oh nevermind

i see it

[whole stirrup]

There's one for completing all PE's as well

[ocean spindle]

uh it might unlock by just playin a mission with PE on a past rundown
for some reason thats how i got my overload achievement i think, i failed a mission with overload or somethin like that
do check like eveyr rundown just in case

make sure u do have every PE

[whole stirrup]

Only thing I can think of is because i haven't done r8e2 yet I don't have every secondary finished even though it isn't a PE

[dry pumice]

PEs are PEs

You probably should go through every rundown from 4 onwards and check how many levels you have that are 1.1.1.1 or less

if you find at least one 1.1.1.0 or something - that's the one

Otherwise... Bugs? #1049599987878723635 to the rescue, if they can do anything (i think Docread can access your data base and check which level wasn't cross-checked by the achievement)

[bold atlas]

Can u Cfoam pablo

[weary mesa]

Yes you can

[arctic marten]

you can, but I believe it takes around 33 blobs to foam the immortal

[weary mesa]

He's foamed for a bit longer than a Tank too

[bold atlas]

Das crazy

[weary mesa]

it's 23 blobs from what I remember

22*

[bronze stag]

any tips for R2D2?

[late flame]

Stealth past the giants, don't engage them

[drifting needle]

Was GTFO an experimental game or just a fun project game?

[frail heart]

This game decided the fate of the universe.

[native sun]

Are you stuck on the level? If so, which sections are causing you trouble?

[bronze stag]

wave 8 to the end mainly

[livid stone]

No such thing

[native sun]

You're really pretty close then, shouldn't need much else.

Are you running out of resources in the final waves? Stuff going wrong during code 8 hunt? Struggle to put code 9 in during the short timer?

[bronze stag]

the short timers are the biggest issue, holding the main room is pretty annoying

[hidden ridge]

You can hold on bridge, just have 3 looking at the direction you spawned in and 1 looking behind, when you open doors behind the reactor just tell the guy looking behind to call if enemies are coming from there since he COULD get overwhelmed if alone, especially later, design 1 guy to go from front to back if that happens

[sharp moss]

where do you paste in the code to join someone

nvm found it

[slow mist]

whats an occiput

[frail heart]

The back of the head

[slow mist]

ohh okay cool

i was confused at first haha

[frail heart]

Yeah its just a name everyone agrees on

And its shorter than "back of the head"

Usually people just shorten it to "occi"

Usually pronounced either "ossy" or "ocky"

[slow mist]

i seee ty!

also is it bad im still on b2 sdafsafas

r1b2 i mean

[tardy ingot]

you get better over time (well if you try to)

[turbid horizon]

Not to be confused with Occy

[frail heart]

Cant get it confused with that masterpiece

[turbid horizon]

;-; hey

[frail heart]

Dont worry Occy is alright as well

[turbid horizon]

LMAO

[indigo iron]

How do you tell if your game is glitched / objective hasn’t spawned in? 🤣 I’ve nearly completed R1A1 (I think) and I legit cannot find this objective anywhere. Not letting me ping it on the terminal it seems.

[upper ginkgo]

what are you specifically typing in the terminal?

[indigo iron]

I’d take a picture if I could post it here. “PING HSU_893” which is the custom objective of course. It’s coming back as success and I’m looking in the exact area but.

Nothings updating on the mission objective and I’m just wandering around the area for the last 30 minutes. 😂

[upper ginkgo]

when you ping on the terminal it should give you tell you what area the ping came from

i.e area_a, area_b

[indigo iron]

Yeah, Does it just not update the objective bit?

[upper ginkgo]

the objective stack doesn't update consistently

In the case of r1a1, you probably just need to wander around the room the ping came from and try to look for the interact prompt

The HSU pods are labeled on the bottom left

[ocean spindle]

take into account ur not lookin for a box or somethin
ur lookin for a big tank

human sized

[indigo iron]

Yeah, I’ve found a HSU but apparently not the right one. No prompt when I walk up to it etc.

They’ve put it in like the biggest area with three floors and honestly just lost. 😂

[ocean spindle]

theres many lying around, keep checkin the numbers

also E its above the stairs

[upper ginkgo]

yeah that one is rough

[indigo iron]

Friggen found it at last. Was under the staircase on the upper but yeah.

[upper ginkgo]

congratulations !

[indigo iron]

Didn’t realise it triggered a possibly endless alarm…. Died on the way out. 🙂

[upper ginkgo]

that's what the checkpoint is for

[indigo iron]

Makes sense now. 🤣

I thought it was just like a save checkpoint tbh.

[upper ginkgo]

game likes to pull a lot of "gotcha" moments so expect to get blindsided on most runs

[civic wave]

don't expect a checkpoint in every mission though

outside of r1a1 there are 0 checkpoints from rundown 1-5, checkpoints only appear in r6-r8 (and r1a1)

[slow mist]

is it bad i never use the boosters?

[ocean spindle]

no

[weary mesa]

in fact that is extremely based

[ocean spindle]

i have a memory r5b1 sec activates an errro

error

as u plug the last cell

is it true or am i trippin

[weary mesa]

trippin

[dry pumice]

Depends on who you ask, but most vets find them distasteful, like a dopping in a sports.

The average "i play for the completion checkmark" Joe does not care, of course. "A clear is a clear" he says, as he huffs toxins with his 99% infection resist.

[slow mist]

hmm

because like i dont use em because i feel like they are important later on

[civic wave]

r5b2 does, b1 does not

[slow mist]

what does artifact heat mean

[dry pumice]

If you are diligent with artifact looting - you can burn Muted (orange) ones every mission and never run out. In fact you'll eventually just end up deleting half of them.
Sort of the same with Bold (blue) ones, although to the lesser extent.
Its the Agressive (red) ones you should watch out for. Those things are often OP.

[dry pumice]

Its a mechanic preventing grinding boosters by replaying same mission over and over. The more you keep playing the same mission - the less value artifacts will provide towards next booster acquisition. The reduced efficiency only kicks in on subsequent deployments.

[lunar rain]

Me with my 112% glow stick power

[dry pumice]

100% is the max, most efficient value and it can go down as little as 20-25% or something like that. Never seen it myself.

Different levels have different artifact placements on them too.

For example R8A1, for some reason, reliably has 0 artifacts on it. Ironicaly this means that art heat never goes down below 100%

R6B2 is a level i know that for some reason got crazy amount of artifacts in it, particularly in the secondary objective zone. You enter a room and there's like 5 laying on the floor.

Which is fair, because level's a slog.

[hard nexus]

It's a good level stfu

[ocean spindle]

its a fine level

lil basic but eh

not long or boring at least

[hidden ridge]

Its weirdly done in such a way that feels like you're doing more travel than you should tbh

The whole part "pre-checkpoint" especially feels unneeded

It's 2 alarms with a key behind it so you can get to a big zone with 2 alarms and some keys behind it

Extreme is "fine" as an introduction to uplinks and at least it's small enough. On the other hand, with Alt rundowns, as in introduction is perhaps way too late.

[dry pumice]

Perfectly explainted

The 2 big hub zones confuse me every time because in my memory they just fuse into one room

When i had to replay the ALT variant i was like "something's not right"

You can just cut out that big room scan prior to the hub and the level's better off for it

[hidden ridge]

I get that some things made sense when we didnt have access to all maps

Like R6B1 having a detour to get a cell with an alarm and a zone with a single scout

Done perhaps so newbies could get familiar with scouts and cells

[tardy ingot]

a good thing to know
not a single level is balanced around the useage of boosters. Boosterless is pretty much the "intended" way of playing.
But! If you struggle somewhere and think you could clear it with a little help of whatever using them is definetly not an issue at all.

(Boosters can range from absolutely useless to completely invalidating game mechanics so )

[soft crater]

Back in our day. boosters didn't exist

[ocean spindle]

back in my times

[fallen kite]

Yeah things like glow stick power won’t do that much. But supply efficiency is completely broken

[odd pasture]

regen cap, infection resist

[hidden ridge]

Eh I'd say the most broken ones are supply and infection

[past mesa]

Main dmg

[tardy ingot]

resist boosters, infection resist specifically, bioscan speed
efficiency boosters
main/special dmg boosters on specific guns (hel revo, dmr, hel gun)

[hidden ridge]

yeah but that depends on the gun you take tbh

[tardy ingot]

regen cap is also good

[sturdy glen]

bioscan speed and regen cap are both really good no matter what tier of booster it is yea

[hidden ridge]

inf resist means giving 0 shit about a whole hazard save for not being able to see much in the fog

[sturdy glen]

bioscan arguably being better on a muted than the other 2 is really dumb

and also never not being useful in any level

[past mesa]

Bio scan is insane

[tardy ingot]

any booster if used for the right scenario makes those a meme
t-scan that takes 3 minutes? what about 1 1/2 max

[hidden ridge]

I remember zoom zooming scans on my first clear of R3D1 with bioscan

[tardy ingot]

stacked melee resist? well you basically have like 60% extra effective hp at all times

hel gun with enough special dmg to 1 shot on body is also so fuckin funny

infection resist above 100% on r5e1

[silk radish]

Doesn't stop the initial infection, but you can sit in the fog to remove it

[cold quarry]

bioscan speed is by far the best in the game

the only time its not is reactor levels

[dry pumice]

Bioscan, supply efficiency and infection resist.
The holy trinity of "I want to get this over with."

Stacking weapon damage has surprisingly little effect.

Outside of the DMR meme i fail to remember anything else worth of note

[ocean spindle]

takes infection resist on r2a1
weapon dmg its only like super useful on revo bodyshot, hel revo oneshot, dmr oneshot

thats about it

the rest r too high

well i enjoy stackin machinegun dmg but it doesnt really do anything noticeable

[dry pumice]

I guess you could stack some spec damage to get a 20 breakpoint on HEL gun, but eh...

[inner sun]

is there Scout asmr?!?

[peak geode]

Hi! It's me again

What do you usually bring the Heavy Assault Rifle for? It feels like it wants to be the awkward ”Main Weapon” in a Special Weapon slot, and I am struggling to see its place in a loadout.

[odd pasture]

it's OK at most things, but not really that good at anything

in a full team setting, no real reason to bring it outside of fringe cases

jack of all trades type weapon

you'd only really bring it if you need something really flexible, but in reality you'd be much better off just taking more specialized weapons

has loads of ammo tho

pretty nice at clearing garbage too

also, easy to use if you wanna chuck that in

[whole stirrup]

There are a few special guns that are basically main guns and not great ones at that

[slow mist]

okay im done playing solo for now

i need tips im still stuck on r1b2

[sturdy glen]

whats killin you most of the time?

[slow mist]

tbh trying to extract

i always do well and the moment i have to extract i sprint for it and just die usuallyy

[sturdy glen]

sprint for it is a fine strat

if you dont have mines make sure you dont close the last door before extract or youll get fucked when it breaks

you will probably need to manage your stamina halfway through or enemies will catch up

so take a break sometime in between to stop sprinting and maybe shoot the closest enemies

[slow mist]

is it the heart rate rhing

[sturdy glen]

ye

[dry pumice]

It used to have 0 recoil and thus was great as a brainless go-to when you didn't want to bother with that kinda stuff.

But then they nerfed it, so now it's just whatever... On top of that - it runs out of ammo like immediately, ammo supply in it is very cringe.

Otherwise it's Arbalist LMG without spin up and 2 times the reload speed. Which is a niche, but a lame one.

IMHO ammo is the bigger offender. If it had an extra mag with some nice refills - you could just go brrrrt and don't think about it too much.

[odd pasture]

is the ammo on it really that bad? never seemed to have issues with it ngl

maybe cause I tap it a lot whenever I use it

[sturdy glen]

its not that bad

but it is worse than the mgs

[odd pasture]

that it indeed is

[sturdy glen]

and short rifle has a lot more ammo its just short rifle

[dry pumice]

149 bullets at 100% (super cringe number, fucking hate that number, why couldn't they make it 150 or 155?!)
Literally just 5 mags, not even full ones.
Refill is 46.

For reference - Arbalist LMG is 169 at 100%, refill is 50.
Also deals +0.3 more damage too.
Also 0 recoil.

Arbalist is pretty much a superior weapon except for doubled reload time

[odd pasture]

what sucks is I really like the har, but its hard for me to take it somewhere without thinking to myself